Red Scare - Themi Lovato

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

The ladies discuss Demi Lovato coming out as nonbinary, Chrissy Teigen vs. Courtney Stodden, the resurgence of UFO discourse, and the "micro-generation" known as

I'm recording we're back we're back how's it going it's going okay how are you okay it's sweltering it's a hot one it's a scorcher yeah I don't have air conditioning in my room yet so I just draw my curtains all day long so it doesn't get like too warm in there stirring yeah and it kind of works yeah my room is like pitch black that's how my room is I have like heavy blackout curtains and yeah it's the only way my room is pitch black and sound free it drowns out air posters still up in there no I'm gonna put it I'll put it up again you'll put it in the baby's room yeah exactly with like those like Celtics

flags that Dan got I'm trying to turn my baby into the next Rick Rubin yeah his his palette will only be like hip-hop and heavy metal very cool I can't wait to see him in some crisp white t-shirt a lot on the docket today I guess yeah pretty full one it's also no interesting it's like a little bit well yeah Demi Lovato yeah this is my new strategy is fat shame one episode and then walk back the fat shaming an issue in apology the next episode yeah and then do some mental illness shaming mental illness stigma sorry and then the next one will do ageism yeah and ableism just yeah always yeah like an avalanche of yeah that's

yeah that sounds like a good format going forward so Demi Lovato got some finger waves I thought you meant like people were waving their finger no no remember like the haircut that black chicks had in the 90s yeah really cute the finger waves people need to bring that back they have to they have I've seen like the tool that's like a crimper yeah that's kind of like a squiggly one but it's like a big investment to me because I don't want to like it's a very special look to have like crimped hair yeah it is you know yeah it could go both ways it's not an everyday no everyday vibe no and you basically have

to have kind of a little bit of poo for frizz for it to look good it can't be like sleek do you that's my objection with like hair ads and commercials like the before always looks better because the girl has sort of like natural Nicole Kidman in the late 80s early 90s hair and then toss old yeah and then like in the after she just looks like I don't know like an Albanian escort with like crunchy curls yeah like at some lounge in Tehran it just like looks really bad yeah I don't like when my hair is too soft or glossy yeah it makes it less manageable yeah I like a natural texture me too that's one of the things that I

actually wish we had something to advertise because this would be a great moment to do some spawn con but literally no one wants to send us endorse us yeah I guess we missed the the frack moment I went to Sephora and I saw like or I think frack didn't want us to do the ads oops but we're gonna do them anyway I think yeah they didn't want it I don't know maybe they just didn't want to pay us sorry they didn't they underestimated the wide appeal of our vocal fry podcast but frack for aging beauties who love to say the n-word it's great cuz I already I'm getting age spots but when I put freckles on yeah it

looks like if they're all freckles yeah exactly I just apply it on my melasma like exist yeah just make it like a little bit more a little more popping exactly that's like you added like you know like a contrast filter mm-hmm just like make myself look like that woman from behind the dumpster who someone on the sub pointed out looks like Laura Loomer she does yeah that's funny she does yeah that actress um it's a good product yeah I'm gonna keep using it even if they won't they won't spawn don't want our sponsors yeah same totally anyway people should pay us to like disavow like not use their

product right so that they can virtue signal exactly that's smart that's interesting marketing strategy girls can you a disavow L'Oreal Lancome Juicy Tubes or whatever Lancome probably doesn't even know I exist yeah and I've done a lot for the Juicy Tube brand and Starbucks like yeah I'm a vocal member of like the GreenStraw Mafia yeah you really ain't got nothing for on the mountain and what did you get for it nothing and I just got tired of seeing cake pops in my in my DM it's a nightmare and I listen I put the mullet back on the map and what happens is my my fashion hero Kim Jong-un

bans it in North Korea he does yeah he banned the mullet in North Korea and also skinny jeans good for him yeah I he's maybe if this war on hipsters if the Soviet Union had done that maybe they'd still be around yeah possibly I mean blue jeans were a big blue jean cultural moment Junzi blue jeans white shirt walking the bar he make my eyes born they should have just executed all the still agae who the Soviet Union like all the hipsters oh yeah I mean that's basically the Kim Jong-un method yeah exactly what was the word she used stegade agae what are still agae it's like a Soviet content they're like um what's the

equivalent English like mods it's like a stylish hipster people in the Soviet Union right who like wanted to go to McDonald's and wear yeah yeah like leather jackets at the forefront of like style and then like Balenciaga took up that style much later but if they if they didn't exist I think like Balenciaga wouldn't exist and we wouldn't have the the sweeping yeah cultural moment totally that we live in now anyway which is so exciting which is why there's so many great things to talk about on our docket Demi Lovato who's a person who we've all heard of but still don't know what she does yeah she's a singer she's a

singer and I think she's one of like she probably does a lot of guest judging spots on various like vocal and voguing shows I actually saw an ad for a show about voguing that Jamila Jamila is a judge on and I think Demi Lovato is a judge on their friends yeah because Jamila came out in support of her when she spoke out against the frozen yogurt store in Los Angeles because they're both munchausen sufferers yeah I'm gonna read the Patrick Sandberg tweet yeah because I this really resonated with a lot of people I sent it around and I'll read it now on Demi Lovato a bipolar bikerious self-harming boolean

bullying victim alcoholic cocaine addicted heroin junkie with ADHD who is a pansexual queer non-binary and survivor of child abuse childhood neglect and rape bedeviled by heart attacks and strokes legal blindness and brain damage wait he fit all of that into that and again a real housewives gift that says true munchausen syndrome wow she's she's like the American Jamila Jamila no wonder their friends of course their friends anyway I was watching the kind of for the show and I was like wow not a single person on the show is without mental illness mm-hmm this is like a rate my mental illness

okay the voguing contest yeah yeah I mean you really can't like you can't gut voguing of all of its like coolness and expect anything to be left you know and hire two awful's and I know that Jamila Jamila and Demi Lovato are all or both women of color bear with me but they are politically awful they are why Demi Lovato is like I what race is she I think I'm gonna either go she's either Latinx or Italian masquerading is Latinx because I don't get a PEOC by from her I just assumed she was Latina mm-hmm but I don't know we can fact check this is she also Gemini she's like on so many levels of she's August 20th Leo oh

she was from Mexico okay there you go I knew she was so yeah they're both they're both like WOC but they're actually awful like they're like so politically and culturally white mm-hmm like oh yeah she was like a child actress too yeah she's a Disney girl she's yeah she's been through a lot but if you go on a Twitter tirade against a frozen yoga company you are for all intents and purposes white just putting that out there of course and completely unwell yeah and she came out as non-binary I guess that's the story and she's that she was proud of it in March 2021 Lovato came out as a as pansexual and sexually fluid first

does now before coming out as non-binary in March she said I've always known I was hella queer but I have fully embraced it this is like such an elaborate way of saying that she's fat it's like that scene in 30 rock where the Alec Baldwin character is talking about overeducated coastal elites and Liz Lemon is like Jack just say Jewish it's like that yeah so she has eating disorders she has drug addiction she has other mental health issues she's a lemak suffered she's a lemak bullying victim I thought wonderfully sad yeah beautiful she had three strokes and a heart attack sorry they have had a hard attack when they

were hospitalized for an overdose in 2018 and was also left with some brain damage okay clearly also undiagnosed munch houses 100 yeah I feel like there's a lot of that going around because probably of the medical industrial complex you know I think doctors are very reluctant to diagnose people with munch housing who come in like you know complaining of like weird phantom symptoms yeah they can extract a lot of money for them by doing like unnecessary weird surgeries and procedures and testing and stuff yeah and it's really easy to just like keep going to doctors and being like I don't know what's wrong

with me like yeah like you have a long COVID yeah I just feel crazy if I don't get tons of attention all the time you got to help me doctor maybe you could amputate my arms she should she should we should bring back that mental disorder which was kind of like A&E briefly toyed with bringing it to light back in the in the to which one like people who like get off on amputating parts of their body that's another kind of like extended munch houses kink that people have that feels like a different thing but related yeah yeah but it's all kind of like I mean you really have to like up the ante basically like you

can't stop but yeah she belongs on binaries kind of the what the final frontier yeah well I saw a really horrifying thing called now instead of like merely transitioning and swapping your genitals there's something called nullification surgery which is like saw that which makes you like smooth yeah it turns you into like a Ken or Barbie doll with like literally castrate yeah like so you shut yeah I guess you you have to have like a whole you walk like an all purpose oh yeah that's where we're headed oh that sucks I know but like the crazy thing is you know I'm on my like I have an illich medical tip again but the

crazy thing is like these people think they're being radical and progressive when they're literally just marching with the tides of history because there's like you know Alex Jones is right and there's like so much chemicals in your water and your plastics that were all being nullified anyway exactly we're indefinitely in a nullified era nullify my love Demi Lovato is also like one of these like very moist and leaky people like she has that Janice Soprano like perennial victim grifter like disabled grifter vibe you know yeah I don't the disabled grifter thing is I came across on the internet this woman selling

merch that literally said disabled grifter and I was just like so you're like self-aware and then I plagiarized the March for our spring for our new summer line but I feel like this type of person is nothing new and typically female it's just that they're they've been empowered yeah social media that's what sucks about it yeah and I was saying well Courtney Stodden who will get to also came out as non-binary recently and like the cognitive dissonance of like looking at Courtney Stodden and then having to use they them pronouns which already are like just grammatically incredibly are inconvenient and it

does it makes me feel like a hostage you know we're like a very like incredibly female presenting person is and I'm sure Demi Lovato is not going to like start to look more non-binary maybe she will I she's probably going to help get me in Lovato presenting in the same way that she has been yeah but we have to affirm her identity by like disrupting our syntax to refer to them as they them's and we just that's how it goes well yeah I mean like I feel like we've been on this tip for like the past few episodes but it's like yeah these people it's a hostage situation they again they want everybody to change their natural and

organic reaction to reality they want them to modify it or customize it to suit their kind of bottomless need for attention mm-hmm which like yeah I'm like Jordan Peterson I have a a warbling Kermit like voice and I will respect your pronouns but like I will also call out the sheer madness of well it's one thing I mean it's one thing to identify as trans or undergo any kind of yeah transition even aesthetically mm-hmm and prefer to be called like a she yeah first or a he he, him, she, her you know but the non-binary thing is so just feels so it's so arbitrary and then it logically just produces another binary

of being non-binary or cis-binary you know and it's not it's not the same as like dead name dead naming or like misgendering someone because it's like it's just like run amok kind of yeah and basically yeah I think like I and anybody like who feels like it can now come out as non-binary it just like literally and I could do it you should I don't want to I don't want people to call me a they them you should just like as a troll mm-hmm they them I mean anyone could they directed their first feature I mean in so many of like I I feel like Twitter trans needs to be its own thing Twitter trans yeah like it's when you're

on Twitter so much you become trans yeah no totally it's not it's not traditional trans no it's like a new one I understand and respect traditional trans and I have a hunch actually I don't have a hunch I have a good authority that like traditional trans people like the trigger the Twitter trans thing is total madness of course everyone can see it for what it is but no one is allowed to say yeah I mean listen I'll say I said it before and I'll say it again and I've said it before and I'll say it again well we're allowed to say whatever we want yeah totally but like again I did not believe the patriarchy was real

until Twitter trans people started bullying me like mm-hmm are you kidding me lots of toxic guys on Twitter I'll say that I'll say that much by the way I did not believe that toxic masculinity existed until it happened to me my trauma tell your story I'm so valid I'm coming out as non-binary because I was bullied by they them is on Twitter I am trying to get a book but like okay but the thing with Twitter trans is again like the the point is not to pass as a woman they don't want that they want to be in this kind of constant like the identity is yeah it's not the right transitioning is not the goal yeah it's not to be a woman yeah it's to be like

trans yeah and maybe I don't know it someone doesn't need to pass necessarily to be like a valid trans person and probably is too much like emphasis within the trans community on passing but it doesn't change the fact that it's like I don't know yeah it's like a third non-binary Twitter trans is like a third identity yeah that seems to correlate primarily with people who have like serious personality disorders yeah compounded by like online brain mm-hmm because I feel like if you were truly non-binary like actually felt in an embodied way that you were like gender fluid or wanted to live in some

kind of like androgynous ambiguous gendered way yeah you wouldn't probably identify as non-binary because once again it's like you wouldn't even you'd how you have to kind of like not acknowledge the the binary to truly be yeah you couldn't non like negatively tether your identity to an existing positive value positive I don't mean good yeah like you know exit accident right but yeah I mean I feel like something tells me also that non-binary is not the cure all that Demi is looking for she's gonna find it's not really gonna have some other problem she's gonna have to and it's like you know as usual she's

you know medicate self medicating with more of the same of what it of what ails her essentially you know attention yeah like she's she's fixing the problem by re-administering the problem like the the issue is not that she suffers from repression aka a lack of options which is what she attributed her drug overdose to yeah it's that she suffers from self-expression which is like too many options you know I mean she's probably legitimately very traumatized from her childhood and definitely has a lot of troubles but yeah as you said I don't think it's it's serving her to continually like amend her identity to

make herself into more of some kind of display I mean my advice is to these people is always the same instead of manufacturing new traumas and identities you could just make some art like isn't that the best therapy yeah like make a record about it yeah instead of like you know penning a tell-all yeah well is she she's not penning a tell-all she that's no she well so she sold a TV show recently about eating disorder and was in the news also relatively recently after she called out like a frozen yogurt place in LA I'll just read what she said finding it extremely hard to order for you from at the big chill

official when you have to walk past tons of sugar-free cookies and other diet foods before you get to the counter do better please so I think I'm gonna have to make that hashtag a thing I will be calling harmful messaging from brands or companies that perpetuate a society that not only enables but praises disordered eating so she's mad that they this brand was perpetuating quote diet culture yeah by like marketing their products as like sugar-free or like weight loss so then they said we're not diet vultures we cater to all our customer needs for the past years we're sorry we found this offensive

explaining that they were like the dairy and sugar-free options were for like diabetics or vegans or people with celiac disease yeah I don't know if she's gonna be mad at like a brand and of course Jamila Jamil stepped in on her side of course but it's like yeah go on how am I forced to I feel bad that I'm forced to defend a brand against these two like trauma vultures you know it's like I'm sorry if you're recovering anorexic or bulimic like how about not setting foot inside of a frozen yogurt store that's probably not the best place for you to go if you're if you're still on shaky ground you know right if you're

gonna be triggered yeah just like don't you know trigger don't auto trigger and then take it out on the rest of us but yeah I think like she that her problem is that she thinks like oversharing incessantly to anyone who listen will bring her kind of like inner peace and clarity and it actually will do the opposite which is continually up the ante on the sort of like traumas and identities that she has to invent to stay in the public eye well so that's basically what she she then did she responded again to the storm and said that her whole experience there was triggering an awful you can carry things

for other people while also caring for another percentage of your customers who struggled struggled daily just even step foot in your store one of the deadliest mental illnesses only second to opioid spelled wrong overdoses don't make excuses just do better then she accused them of gaslighting her and posted a picture from their Instagram that included a sign that said that used like guilt-free messaging which she said was the kind of the crux of why it was problematic for them to offer sugar-free options and and frame them as quote guilt-free yeah and that's when Jamila jumped in and said she's just one of few

celebrities reminding us to look out for mental illness definitely yeah she's really getting the her and Jamila are really getting the word out on mental illness more than they need to guilt-free is diet culture terminology we need to stop using that fucking term we are so lucky to even have food what in the name of shit and how is there to feel guilty about that's a term of shame orthorexia is easy to slip into and is a fucking nightmare to crawl out of wait hold on what's orthorexia it's like when you're anorexic but you are obsessed with like health food okay like it's basically just another term for anorexia

but it's like when you it's like healthy anorexia it's like it's like what I had in Los Angeles where I was like I'm like bread is toxic I can't like eat sugar dairy like and you really like restrict but kind of based on this really like LA kind of moon juice framework of you know which people with munch housings also which actually makes you fat because if you eat like sugar-free and fat-free options you actually end up gaining more weight is that true well fat-free definitely if you eat skim stuff yeah really why yeah because you your body needs fat and it actually like if you eat lots of fat you can it's like

the principle of the keto diet like fat and protein mm-hmm first the carbs that it's the carbs that are bad and the refined sugars and stuff like that like you should be eating like high fat stuff like fish and avocados that's actually how you stay thin hmm and you know keeping your portions moderate it's it's all about the small portion very it's I can't say it's easy but it's very simple yeah I think it is simple it's not the hardest thing to figure out how to stay slim just hit the gym a little bit yeah and like you don't have to do all that eat healthy me as things and yeah you don't have to yeah some kale

every once in a while yeah I mean get lots of color on your plate I'm lucky because I my palate is very like I like eating like cabbage and like anchovies yeah like those are the foods I probably eat the most yeah and I don't I do like fro-yo yeah it's I mean fro-yo is delicious but it's like also chock full of like weird like chemicals that are used to make drones and whatever what are you talking about like it's all like plastics and whatever in it yeah I'm sure because it's not like I think like fro-yo is like probably not made from natural ingredients what are you talking about is it I'm sure I like you know when

you go to like this is not a fro-yo story but when you go to like cold stone creamery I was gonna say stone yeah the ice cream tastes chemical well I'm not talking about your like Baskin Robbins okay I'm talking about like I think I'm sure the big chill is like probably a kind of like high price point more refined like if you go to that place it's called like culture or something on Broom Street yeah by that spot Daphne where they sell biologic research products once again not getting paid for any of this anyway it's like a frozen it's like a Greek fro-yo place and I'm pretty sure it's just like literally

frozen yogurt yeah that I would buy in New York but I feel like the big chill is probably one of those places that like looks like that sugar it's sugar candy store and like blasts ray-gatan and is open 24-7 and has a lot of air conditioning I was getting that vibe but I could be wrong I don't know well I've actually worked at two frozen yogurt shops so I'm actually kind of qualified to talk about it I worked at like a Korean one in Las Vegas when like pinkberry first popped off and there was kind of like a fro-yo craze around 2008 yeah so I worked at a place called Tarte that hired like high school girls who

wore tank tops that's a tart yeah and then when I moved to Berkeley I worked at a place called yogurt harmony and something I learned is that there's very different like laws around like probiotics and dairy storage in California and Nevada and I'm sure it differs wildly by every state and I think like at yogurt harmony we did just pour like which is funny because it was more of like a hippie yogurt place but we would just pour these like pre-bought like boxes of like pre-mixed yogurt stuff that probably were full of like corn syrup and weird bullshit yeah but I feel like if you go to like a nice a

nice one yeah like a Gigi and Bella Hadid fro-yo place exactly yeah we'll have to the I think we're both too we talked about the fact check whether the big chill I'm trying to find there is a high-end or mid-market frozen yogurt place if anyone knows I can't even find their their Instagram anymore oh yeah it has like neon very like millennial brand yeah but they're actually sponsored by Israel it's for like Instagram people yeah so it's probably schlock anyway I might get some fro-yo later yeah I don't know this isn't this isn't exactly Demi's problem it's like a problem of women being too empowered on the internet

in general you know yeah they're definitely getting getting too much screen time yeah and it's like it's bad because again kind of the onus is on you to constantly tell your story and if you're gonna tell your story that means your story has to be like riveting and interesting on some level but we're all desensitized to like the normal amounts of trauma the thing is I'm convinced that people are programmed to forget hmm our traumas and not relive them but once you introduce the idea that you can profiteer off of your traumas people you know the little Edison bulb goes off in their heads well I mean it's one thing

to forget or like repress your trauma yeah and then it does like manifest itself in these which is what's happening with Demi Lovato I don't think she's like a mastermind you know I think she is like legitimately traumatized and unfortunately also has like munchausens as a result of that yeah and it has effectively what's like a megaphone in her hand at all times exactly so she's but the way that's just sort of I don't think forgetting your trauma is the goal I think it's sort of like accepting it and moving past it yeah yeah I'm not saying that it's good to repress but I think just most people are literally

programmed to move on and yeah like I wouldn't say work through but to you know keep on trucking keep it moving because like there's life to attend to I think most people are not naturally inclined to draw out their trauma in the public eye but now that it's become popular I think like well I just especially like mimic one another yes and there's no I feel like we've talked about it but there's like I feel like there's no actual psychological evidence that telling your story and broadcasting your trauma publicly actually does help people I think all of the evidence we have to that is like anecdotal yeah and the

loudest people advocating for that trauma management strategy are like women on Twitter and stuff yeah who frankly like in kind of in the grand scheme of things are fairly fortunate because again they're like usually celebrities on Twitter like I have like a whole roundup like a Lady Gaga was like retreading her rape trauma right and talking about how it caused a psychotic break AOC was trotting out her insurrection trauma talking about that forever she said it was like fighting in a war and now she's in therapy for that Oprah teamed up with Prince Harry who's a spiritual female to do a show about

mental health trauma he did like whatever that rapid eye movement therapy thing is like on the show he's like totally prostrating himself on the like yeah wellness stage yeah it's like insane really pathetic it's gross I thought like when you were like a beautiful BPD bulimic like princess die that you just had gay sons not BPD sons but like their only princess die was around to tell us about her trauma yeah totally Prince Harry also had some headline about how Meghan Markle told him that she didn't kill herself because she didn't want to leave him alone it's not that special you get a new wife gaslight yeah once again

another instance of gaslighting Bella Hadid was talking about Palestine from like the luxurious confines of her father's real estate empire he himself he posted an Instagram of like shedding a single tear yeah for the people of Palestine and it's like I actually understand the Hadid's because they they literally are Palestinian but like how many real estate deals with Israelis does that guy have because it's impossible not to have Israeli real estate deals in Beverly Hills no I want to know yeah we're gonna know yeah um but yeah it's just like this whole trend of people constantly negotiating their

trauma in public I know I just hate it it feels bad and sticky and yeah no one likes this who's really profiting from it like slate.com yeah what you know I don't like journalism is also in such bad shape that it's like the people you've been writing these clickbaity articles that seem to come out incessantly probably aren't like making tremendous profits on them anyway yeah I can't imagine that it's that that's why we need Donald Trump back in the White House so that the media can sustain itself. Talk about his trauma of having the election robbed from him. I felt like I was being gaslit by the

electoral body. I do want Donald Trump back. I miss him. Me too. I just want some tweets or a podcast would be nice I've said this before. He has like a site where he publishes his little musings every once in a while but it's not the same. Yeah no it really is not the same without him. It's just it's literally opened up the kind of hell mouth to all these females running amok with their like personal victim stories. They were doing that during before but now there's nothing there's no counterweight in the form of Donald Trump insulting journalists and politicians. Right. They're just running unchecked. Yeah it's

anyway speaking of trauma. Oh yeah. Courtney Stodden. Yeah and Chrissy Teigen. They were fighting over there. What happened with that? Chrissy Teigen basically back in the day when when Courtney was like in 2007 right? Oh 11 I thought but somewhere around there. Yeah 2011 that sounds right. So basically what happened Courtney Stodden who is like the tabloid child bride from yeah 10 years ago has been sort of absorbed into the post Brittany documentary referendum of slut shaming and like mistreating young female celebrities or in her case like literal tabloid freaks. Yeah. She has also come

out as non-binary and did an interview recently where she described that period of her life as obviously being an incredibly dark and challenging one. She legitimately was a child bride who had like a flashpoint spotlight in the media because everyone was really like grossed out and riveted by her weird life. Yeah. It was like the real life version of American Beauty. Yeah. Which was it was like much more decrepit and depressing. Really depressing. Yeah. And so now in the post Brittany documentary era she is looking back on the a decade ago with like the hindsight and the terminology that we use now which is

like grooming and gaslighting and bullying and trauma and all of that. And she said specifically that Chrissy Teigen was one of the female celebrities who were like mocking her for her freakish demeanor and disgusting relationship and telling her that she should she should kill herself as did like Anderson Cooper on one of his little segments back then she went on some she did some like funnier dice skit with Jason Alexander where she's wearing like a bikini and like they're sexualizing her and like they're not really they are making fun of her obviously but the I watched it and the

tone of it is much more of that like Tim and Eric absurdism rather than it's what she makes it out to seem like you know they're kind of like they are exploiting her for her like freak factor but they're definitely right coveting her sexuality or like because she doesn't look like a teenager and she didn't say other things like the narrative breaks down a little bit like it's really interesting because she starts talking about yeah like being groomed and gaslit by Doug Hutchinson who was like a 50 year old like casting agent bit actor alcoholic teacher I think yeah and I remember at the time

like obviously this was a big story and everybody was absolutely horrified by it but it's weird to kind of adopt like unthinkingly adopt this unexamined new language and apply it retroactively to your situation and the narrative is a little weird because again Courtney Stotten wasn't exactly what your typical 16 year old like abuse victim is which is like you know in the media they're framed as like a Lolita or an ingenue she never read a 16 she looked like a porn star yeah I mean that's not like and even no shame no and though of course like emotionally mentally she was very much like a teenager yeah she was

exhibiting like agency in herself presentation and was seemed to have a kind of self-awareness of like an Anna Nicole Smith thing right that she was doing yeah she was like she was like kind of in the grand tradition of like Anna Nicole Smith Pam Anderson like 90s bottle blondes it was like that aesthetic like leathery chewed up yeah big hard tits it wasn't like you know well they're real oh they're not hard well she's got them she's probably had them augmented yeah and she talks about in this interview that she gave was it the Daily Beast or something like that I had to sign up for the fucking Daily

Caller or whatever the Daily Wire to read one we should have just split that fucking subscription but 99 cents I felt so bad because I feel like in the future somebody will find out somehow that we signed up for the Daily Wire they want to read Ben Shapiro articles no I think he's a corny dweeb we were trying to read this Candace Owens article that we had that was really I felt really swindled yeah me too when I got behind that paywall I actually like Candace Owens I think she's like smart and feisty but she's constantly disappointing because she does the kind of like Marxist leftist clickbait thing

and one of the premium I felt totally cucked because I was looking at the membership options and obviously I went for the cheapest ones yeah but one of the premium ones gets you a free leftist tears mug and I was like you guys this is like so embarrassing and cucked of you I know to do this like yeah her whole thing is like a gotcha routine that never she doesn't really follow through on enough yeah and she like calls she essentially calls Chrissy Teague in a leftist which is hilarious yeah she's just shooting from the hip truly but yes Courtney Stodden talks about how her father wasn't present in her life and

how he found out that he was that she was seeing this guy who was even older than him and was totally like livid and threatened to call the cops and meanwhile the mother was supportive and open to seeing where it went because she and the father had a shaky marriage and I mean this is very typical and familiar like parents using kids as a pawn in their own relationship dramas the mother you know trying to look progressive and open-minded essentially to spite to get back at the father but and the father is like has an appropriate reaction but he's laying down the law a little too late you know mm-hmm so it's like I

think she Courtney Stodden actually had a by the sound of it a pretty rough upbringing yeah definitely no she also is probably I believe legitimately traumatized from her like childhood I mean I mean and Demi both read as molested as children to me I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that that you know molested to be PD pipeline yeah I was all this time and I think like another thing that like we don't talk about and should raise awareness about golf queen in these in these stories like the Epstein and our Kelly stories what gets lost often is that the mothers are acting as precarious as they are

literally pimping their daughters out to these older men mm-hmm because they're like living vicariously through them or they need the money or the combination of both mm-hmm and I think that's unconscionable behavior yeah and I think positively I guess will become maybe less prominent I think it was very much less examined in our back in the day like it was seemed like a more I don't know even like obviously everyone thought that the marriage was gross and wrong but with herself presentation and everything in just the way that 60 well that you know now in this like revisionist era where like 22 year olds

can't consent to sex like the thought of like a 16 year old getting married is like unconscionable but the fact is like not that like there should be child brides obviously but for a much of human existence like people did marry and reproduce very early in their life when they were like the most fertile right and were more kind of grounded and mature back then yeah and so like yeah I don't think teenagers I don't even I shouldn't even have to say this but I don't think it's appropriate for a grown man to marry a teenager obviously yeah just that Courtney Stodden did have agency in the situation yeah I think that she was

on some level kind of on some level the unfortunate victim of her mother and her husband but I also think that she of all 16 year olds was kind of wise beyond her years and I think that she knew that she what she was doing I get it like I remember being 16 and wearing like a tank top with no bra and short shorts to them all and I knew exactly what I was doing and what would happen I think when you're 16 however you don't anticipate or understand like the second order the consequences consequences yeah that's what is kind of iffy in your mind but you absolutely at 16 not all 16 year olds but plenty of them know that they

want sexual attention from men yeah and specifically older men like it's not and I think like you know they're programmed that way yeah it's like this is this is the time when you are like in that transitional phase like entering into adulthood I mean and our culture is also very schizophrenic in that way and that it is basically a kind of like a Phoebe feel like culture yeah that at the same time like vilifies the agency and desire of like underage actors I guess yeah and yeah and I mean again she you know I remember like she had like yeah like the platinum blonde hair like a crispy tan the huge tits she

looks like 35 and I say this again out of an all sympathy as a person who's always looked 36 my whole life since I had puberty I'm not like knocking on Courtney Stodden beautiful girl no but we developed right optically it would have been a very different situation if she looked like an underdeveloped like more on the spectrum of like prepubescent child who is getting married to some washed up actor it was like the spectacle of it made sense because there were archetypal precedents a la Anna Nicole Smith etc that likes sort of that we could process and understand yeah and so we didn't look at her husband

as like a vicious pedophile we looked at them both as this kind of like sick sad union yeah yeah he he doesn't he doesn't read as a vicious pedophile he reads as a pathetic pedophile yeah and an alcoholic but yeah I mean I guess it's it of course it's like a sad story but you know again like she was failed once by her mother and then a second time by like the media but what do you expect and you know I think she's it sounds like she's landed on her feet like she she's writing a memoir she's recording an album and releasing a cosmetic sign and running an only fans an entrepreneur yeah she's the the real

girl boss I guess they they they we're gonna have to edit this whole thing I'm just gonna slip I'm gonna sing they they superimpose it on every time we say she yeah and you know the reaction with people like this from like shrieking girls and gays is always like yes queen because she's like a social media in reality TV legend like somebody like Farah Abraham or black china and that's always really sad to me because it's like elevating and empowering these like deeply troubled people yeah that should get well before they have a platform I mean Farah Abraham is a incredible outsider she put out that album that

was like really weird but yeah we just can't though I wonder if they're Abraham will have a redemption arc in the same way that the I'm telling you this all started with the with the free Britney documentary yeah like now we're like oh look at look at this disgusting David Letterman in every way you flirt with a young starlet yeah like remember how we gawked at these like freaks in the early odds and like now they need their like freakish it's the same sort of cycle though like Courtney Stoddard is still a freak we're just like talking about her trauma with like gravity now rather than like pointing yeah moral sensitivity

exactly it's yeah I mean it's ridiculous and back in the day you know all these people like Anderson Cooper and Joy Bihar Dr. Drew Dr. Drew all these people were allowed to be themselves in that they were you know craven bullies yeah we're reacting naturally to like a spectacle yeah and now they have to pretend to be like woke anti-bullies I'm gonna quote Armenian legend Sean Miss Robbie and again because he has like the best tweet about this the reason why so many extremely woke people turn out to have been bigoted in the past is because bigotry used to be the best way to bully and intimidate people but now

performative anti-bigotry is the best way to bully people an evolving toolset for sociopaths very well said yeah I mean and that's the thing it's like Chrissy Teigen is mm-hmm I don't think Chrissy Teigen by the way is even like a lost BPD Munchausen's mom I think she's actually just like a sociopath yeah she's worse yeah somehow it's funny because I saw a really funny tweet that was like how did like the two worst women in history get their boyfriends to write such beautiful love songs for them in reference to like Jamila Jamil and Chrissy Teigen but yeah she's she's now under fire because she's cyber bullied

cyberbully started back in the day right and told her to take a dirt nap and allegedly also DM'd her and would tell her that she hopes she dies yeah when she was clearly threatened by her supple big natties yeah and clearly has a very weak insecure constitution that accounts for her entire personality so it really comes as no surprise I mean it's legitimately you know regardless of what you think of Courtney Stottin's legitimately weird to DM a 16 year old and tell them to go kill themselves definitely well so she issued an apology it's her most recent tweet mm-hmm and there was something in it that was

so demented actually she said not a lot of people are lucky enough to be held accountable for all their past bullshit in front of the entire world I'm mortified and sad at who I used to be I was an insecure attention-seeking troll I am ashamed and completely embarrassed at my behavior but that I have tried to connect with Courtney privately but since I publicly fueled all this I want to also publicly apologize I'm so sorry Courtney I hope you can heal now knowing how deeply sorry I am and I'm so sorry I let you guys down I will forever work on being better than I was 10 years ago one year ago six months ago and then

she went on it's nothing compared to how I made Courtney feel I have worked so hard to give you guys joy and be beloved and the feeling of letting you down is nearly unbearable truly that was where I was like you've worked so hard to be beloved that's such a creepy thing to work hard for that's like that's your whole problem Chrissy yeah you're like a void who wants to be beloved who would who wants to be beloved no one who's actually beloved like I don't know like that's one of the most repulsive qualities in a person is like to want desperate to be beloved like no not a single person who's actually beloved has

actually worked to be beloved they kind of organically became that way you know for it like John Waters or Lana Del Rey or I mean well Donald Trump well in the case of like Lana and John Waters even you know I don't think anyone is I think people become they seem more universally beloved later in their life but like John Waters faced a lot of trials and tribulations you know he was like lambasted over the course of his career and he was definitely not like yeah darling his entire life no of course I mean it takes time you basically slowly get more and more beloved as you get older I don't think

it's gonna happen for Chrissy Teigen no I mean I think harmically she won't be won't be beloved that's how you really be beloved is by like cultivating good karma yeah and being like starting and loving yourself being a good friend to people and like a good relative and whatever well that's what I mean by karma yeah you like what you put forth comes back towards you I mean listen I'm not again I'm like in my very Zen state I'm not trying to be harsh but this is a woman who basically like documented her miscarriage I remember that that was I mean that's really awful and horrifying yeah like there are certain things that

are not only private but sacred that you do not reveal about yourself yeah and it's just like a weird you know and she has a lot to like or you can like once again sort of there's a dignified way to like say you're late in your life and you're penning a memoir yes you know like you it's not it's just about like total repression or like non-disclosure it's like there's opportunity there's like classy ways to talk about things to talk about things and like right posting on Instagram just isn't isn't one of them and never will be yeah like providing photo evidence of your miscarriage it's I love

how Donald Trump called Teagan John Legend's filthy mouth that's pretty mild for him definitely that's basically a compliment sounds like he was flirting with her a friend of the pot Antonio once said that her face look like a human whoopee cushion it's she's had really bad fillers yeah but why does she need filler she's already kind of like plump I think she's had fillers for her oh for a long time she like started too early and that accounts for the facial like bloating and stuff they really like went to her head so Candace Owens then wrote an article called why I launched the campaign against Chrissy

Teagan it's time to make the left play by its own rules she started the hashtag surviving Chrissy Teagan to sort of raise awareness about her long long record of being a bully yeah being like a garden variety schoolyard bully on social media which is like she left remember when she left Twitter like recently like a month ago yeah and then they came back yeah that's really the worst yeah as she couldn't hack it I mean like again she has a lot to take stock of like she has a husband who seems to love her shockingly enough she has three beautiful children I think three yeah or two she has more than one

yeah she's got kids she has a nice life she shouldn't even be on Twitter rich yeah she's a model and extreme boldface and scare quotes but she is like that's a lot of stuff to be happy about yeah she doesn't really her managers to tell her to stop shitposting honestly yeah I seems like there's no one looking out looking out for her it just like it feels like these women a lot of them are just kind of like aimless on Twitter and don't have a lot going on and are probably like bored and dissatisfied and that's what it feels like yeah and they need the dopamine of like being being beloved yeah exactly unlike us they

don't have a podcast it's really easy but also like the Candice Owen thing is totally weird too because her whole kind of like clickbait shtick is kind of coming down on leftists and like liberal culture but it's like your launch ticket campaign that's the most like left liberal thing to do in a like a leftist yeah and in it she says like this isn't like this isn't cancel culture it's consequence culture which is bullshit she's just obfuscating what she's what she's trying to do which is annoying yeah what did she call it she she called it yeah consequence culture and accountability culture I'm like a

big old no to that the sounds boring yeah it's more of like the sounds like another kind of awful-ass ploy to like rectify things the hypocrisy is just you know too transparent to to even reckon with well yeah but I think Candice Owens is even smarter than these hoes because she's trying to sell something to you on top of it a daily what's it called a daily wire daily wires and I'm gonna forget to unsubscribe I know I'm gonna get a four-month charge next month and I'm gonna be like what the fuck so I guess we're gonna have to start reading the daily wire to make it worth our our investment we really could have

just one of us could have some I know I know I didn't occur to me I didn't even put it on our business account oh shit we should do that from now we need to do that more we're like not good business people anyway what else is going on should we talk about UFOs or Geriatric Millennials I have to pee and then we can talk about UFOs okay cool we're back again UFOs UFOs yeah UFOs have been in the news US intelligence agencies are expected to deliver a report on unidentified aerial phenomena to Congress next month sparking renewed interest and speculation into how the government handled sightings of mysterious

flying objects and if there's any worldly explanation for them so that reads like the NBC News kind of like primer on what's happening with UFOs and there's been some like leaked navel kind of footage of some grainy like blips and like floating triangles and stuff yeah that I mean everything is they are UFOs because the UFO is all all UFOs is like an unidentified flying object but then Barack Obama has been going on like late-night talk shows and kind of like coyly being like well we don't know I'm not at liberty to say blah blah blah and then Joe Biden also when he gets he got asked at a press conference recently

about UFOs and he also made this weird cavalier dismissive comment and then Harry Reid former Nevada and senator and personally attached to because he was the senator when I was like a kid and he was one of the first like government officials I like learned about he wrote an article in the New York Times about sort of like where he's for their what I believe series which I guess is like an op-ed series that they do and he said basically that he's like always been interested in UFOs and things that are like curious and merit investigation and that he kind of distances himself from like conspiratorial people who believe

in extraterrestrials by making this kind of like blanket appeal to like trusting the science yeah like little green men like crackpots who buy into the yeah they're like they're the UFO discourse is really distinguishing itself from like those crazy people who think like aliens are real and like what is going to kind of come to light in this congressional info session about UFOs which will be inevitably I think some kind of like horrible sigh up that we're gonna have to read about and participate in yeah I I yeah I don't know I mean first of all I think the UFO discourse is like unspeakably gay and corny and I

hate that it's back in the news and people are like talking well it's very yeah it's different from previous iterations yeah well because that it's taking on this like scientific yeah jargon yeah rather than what bothers me I'll get whatever they're really trying to redeem science for us but yeah I guess there were some us Navy videos that were leaked and then declassified but yeah if you want to go off the other thing is like UFOs don't nest they're just unidentified they're not necessarily extraterrestrial right they're not flying saucers that's just kind of a I don't know a failing of language to

refer to what people are actually talking about this is like from the NBC story which is why Barack Obama and stuff can be like well we don't know what they are because it's like yeah by nature of what they are they are unidentified once they're identified they cease to be UFOs yeah and I don't know the most sort of logical explanation or like common knowledge around my reality is that they're like Air Force or like CIA there's like experimental kind of like Air Force things happening in the branches of like intelligence and government or two separate for there to be trans total transparency between them

yeah I think like at worst they are like foreign drones doing intelligence gathering in a low-risk way that doesn't compromise like living pilots which is why all these like officials and politicians keep talking about this as a matter of national security I mean drones are like pussies they all they come in different shapes and sizes right there's not like they're not all like the kind of like drones that like Puerto Rican dudes fly by the the pier you know and I mean all of the like footage and videos and stills that we're dealing with ours is like extremely grainy very easy to manufacture and doctor and like yeah

there's no you know it's like the moon landing like we're just supposed to be like oh my god look it's moving erratically and blinking weirdly yeah and like we're supposed to hear Barack Obama do the if I tell you I'm gonna have to kill you like spiel cocked eyebrow bullshit Leo spiel and then be like okay well if they don't know what they are they must be from outer space or whatever but the I think yes foreign drones but also the CIA doesn't have to tell the military right what they're doing or when they do it so they're like experimental aviation probably also drones probably like you know they may or

may not be foreign I mean do you believe in aliens yes well I think it's absolutely inevitable or like highly probable at least that of course because we exist there are other similar intelligent life forms in other galaxies yeah so yeah I do in that on that level so to me this whole UFO stuff if I can put my tinfoil hat on for a second really feels like it's more like frankly satanic like trust the science propaganda that we've already been inundated with for the last like year basically trying to recuperate the low standing of science after the science has very high standing like look I mean amongst

certain you know hard like who are like in love with their like vaccines and stuff like yeah science doesn't necessarily need to be redeemed I think they're like upping the ante on like well their manufacturing consent for for what though for whatever Fauci and his pals are trying to do in the future I think yeah and basically I think I've gone on like anti scientific screeds on the pod before but to me it really comes down to like I do think it's satanic because it deals with a material realm exclusively and like science and medicine obviously are valuable and have a place and like I respect scientists and like

the scientific method to a degree but I also think that science is obviously completely fallible and corruptible and often dovetails with corporate and state interests and so whenever someone instructs you basically the way Harry Reid is doing to kind of like blindly trust the science yeah that you should be skeptical and especially with something like UFOs because I think when you're kind of like winking at like extraterrestrial life or something like beyond our like earthly realm you are dealing with something metaphysical you know like I don't think I don't think aliens are like little green men I

think it's like but there are other like dimensions of reality and there's stuff that's going on that's that's metaphysical that can't be measured by the scientific method which deals purely with like base measurements and like operationalizes reality into this really rigid and completely fallible system that doesn't account for so much of what reality is actually composed of you know like we the base reality that we can see and measure I think is like five percent of like what's really going on yeah it's like scratching the surface I yeah that's true and I also think that like there's no way to vet certain

scientific claims in part because kind of the illusory or artificial monopoly on authority doesn't exist anymore there's too many sources of information many of which are in conflict with each other right so there's no way to to prove or disprove any of these claims and I think like yeah this becomes kind of like a top-down conspiracy theory to compete with the more frankly realistic and sympathetic conspiracy theories man being manufactured from the bottom up that that deal with more material problems I think on some level so whatever like comes to light in this congressional hearing I am already incredibly

wary of yeah the congressional here hearing seems like a means of like manufacturing a novel distraction to that's also incredibly plausible like that's kind of what it feels like it's interesting also that UFOs are now being referred to as UAPs or unidentified aerial phenomenon it's kind of like how STDs became STIs at some point yeah and I read the Harry Reid piece and it was like very like aw shucks and wonderment felt you know when I was a little boy growing up in a boxcar my bed was a bed it was a bale of hay or whatever he's talking about who me I didn't have a science education I used to look out at

the stars yeah and that that to me felt very yeah like manufacturing consent like it's another like the soft male version of like empathy politics were supposed to empathize with his like whoa and is me like Huckleberry Finn ass tail of growing up a scientific education right well Nevada does have a very poor school system famously why I'm so stupid like this to me was peak Biden speak this is from his article it has always troubled me that I have no background in science we didn't have a science teacher in my elementary school and there were limited courses available when I got to high school but because but despite my

lack of scientific knowledge or perhaps because of it I have long been deeply inquisitive why does the Sun stay hot I wondered this sounds like Hunter Biden wrote it yeah as Einstein says curiosity has its own reasons right he says later this is the conclusion of the piece spoiler alert I believe it's crucial to lead with the science when studying UFOs focusing on little green matter conspiracy theories won't get as far of course whatever the science tells us some portion of the public will continue to believe in the reality of otherworldly UFOs as a matter of faith so that's just smearing the deplorables

once again or just like any alternative to whatever the party line is going to be on UFOs like it's already saying like it's really important that we trust the science and whatever the scientists say yeah if you think it might be another way or that there might be other dimensions to it yeah then actually the the trick to understanding UFOs and entering into this new dimension is getting the COVID vaccine it'll just put you on another plane of scientific reality right he says ultimately the UFO debate can be broken down into a sincere belief in science versus a sincere belief in extraterrestrials I

side with science yeah that like never trust somebody who very size claims to side with science and then he says I believe that there is information uncovered by the government's covert investigations into an unidentified aerial phenomenon that can be disclosed to the public without harming our national security the American people deserve to know more and hopefully they will soon with the release of a comprehensive government report wait to read a comprehensive government report about what's really going on yeah literally no one but Mike Tracy will read you know and I'm just like never

trust anybody who who is official and claims that the public deserves to know more because it is their job to make sure that you don't know more and when they go on record you know exactly as much as they want you to know and when they go on record with all this kind of like uplifting positive democracy dies in darkness transparency bullshit they're trying to pull the wall over your eyes mm-hmm I think like all kind of kind of underserved by the way do you know anything about this Harry Reid guy is his woe is me like I'm sure he is from Nevada like even if he's exaggerating I'm sure his upbringing wasn't like

fantastic but like all these but I don't know no I just was remember like being literally now like elementary and junior high school me like Harry Reid's the senator I need you he's the majority Senate leader and like no he had like Nevada pride that Harry Reid was like Senate majority leader like in the news kind of a lot and we were like oh yeah that's that's our senator like but yeah I don't think I'm sure of like what he says about his childhood and stuff is I mean it could be the kind of thing where like when he was like eight they moved to Pennsylvania and he you know who knows whatever but all these like all American

kind of hard scrabble guys who are like men of the people they're very clever little yokel's it's like he was responsible for the dream act okay which allowed like undocumented immigrants to stay in AC in the country if they met some like says I don't know maybe some like state testing quota or something I could be completely wrong they met an older man who was an alcoholic to marry them yeah but no I don't really know a ton obviously now he's just writing like op-eds for the time so he's yeah just like a consent manufacturer yeah but I think I think that you're absolutely right that this is designed like if not

recuperate then consolidate like the stranglehold of science on the hearts and minds of libtards yeah yeah but I also like this kind of like second order operation of smearing damn shams and deplorables and stuff like that yeah or religious people yeah because they believe in like little green man fake stupid bullshit or like the little green men I think also is like a like a red herring or something for I don't know the they're being like a an alien extra terrestrial dimension that is I mean metaphysical really is the only like word for it like is like that deals with more esoteric yeah less legitimate

aspects of quote scientific consensus or reality like who I mean I don't fucking know we don't know and nobody's gonna tell us yeah I feel you and racism are okay in the other dimension yeah and we'll never know because we are just limited as like human beings like in what we can even understand so if there are extraterrestrial beings they probably have completely different like consciousness structures yeah ways of of inhabiting earthly worldly reality yeah like some some aliens will come to earth and they'll think that like I want to hear what Joe Rogan has to say about this honestly I think he's one that I

would this is one that I would tune into for of his program he he did a podcast on this right he must have a very up his hat yeah like I can see him like doing shrooms and then like talking about UFO going in a half hours well he goes into sensory deprivation chambers and how he has a voice activated tape recorder okay like taped to like the ceiling of it and so when he he goes in them and then like shouts out his great his great thoughts wow what a what a trippy guy I'm I'd be into trying something like that yeah it it sounds interesting business expenditure yeah we could put it on our tank yeah just like

go insane and have a mental breakdown my trauma we did it for the pod I think like how an an alien invasion would be cool because it would force like the human race to like band together as a single species mm-hmm and stop like pecking at each other's spleens and manufacturing like new gay little categories to like hate each other for I mean I bet if there was like alien contact that it would be I don't bet I'm not like I'm not a betting gal myself but I could conceive sort of in a sci-fi way of like they're being alien contact and them preferring maybe to communicate even with like dolphins or something or like

yeah species that have like sonar or something exactly that's like out of the realm of human perception they just activate the octopi like octopuses oh yeah yeah yeah like multiple yeah sorry I was trying to the squids because octopi are very smart yeah they're very intelligent I think that they have like I think they're as intelligent as pigs or something it'd be cool if the aliens came down and like activated pigs and octopi to take their revenge on the humankind for chopping them up and eating them I feel like the the if aliens came they would be they would come from a world where like Twitter trans was the

majority and normies were like the minority freaks they'd be even more woke yeah and they would cancel planet Earth yeah for being problematic green lives matter that's all I had about aliens I mean we can talk about geriatric millennials yeah we can really call it quits it's up to you I think we've done a lot of content but you know I have just one real take on the geriatric millennial thing was which was a medium post that someone wrote about how geriatric millennials meaning millennials who were born in the early 80s who are kind of like Gen XC cuspers yeah our real assets in the

workplace because they are able to pick up on social cues unlike like later millennials and zoomers who are like too autistic to function in a workplace and that they sort of bridge like the digital and the analog blah blah blah it was full of lots of like weird corporate jargon that was boring to me yeah she's one of these like workplace consultant slash thought leader people just yeah total non-speak but then the New York Post published an article about the the Twitter backlash to the term geriatric millennial which people the article said people found it offensive but then all of the tweets that they sort of cherry

picked to illustrate their point seemed like to be ingest or kind of right like they were joking but obviously geriatric as in like geriatric pregnancy does trigger people yeah and make them feel bad because it sounds bad well yet geriatric pregnancy is a long-standing medical term that they've now PC'd to advanced maternal age which somehow sounds even more insulting I think but geriatric millennial is like an arbitrary like made-up category of people it just means older that's what geriatric means yeah like aged older yeah I'm I'm both a geriatric millennial and geriatrically pregnant I was but like

you're technically I guess yeah I'm actually technically I'm on the cusp I actually don't know if my pregnancy was I technically a geriatric I think they raise the age actually also for geriatric pregnancies well as I understand it's 35 onward but I conceived when I was 34 I think they raised it I was told by like another 30 something friend of mine that they raised the age to what it's like 40 or something just to make it 40 is like the age when it gets really dicey in terms of unadvisable yeah yeah in terms of like you know the your risk of like abnormalities and complications skyrockets I don't know I

mean again these are like all rough guides depending on the person totally yeah but I I don't understand why people are offended by the term geriatric pregnancy well my hot tag yeah is that geriatric is a lot like the word retarded mm-hmm in that it sounds bad yeah and offensive because of like existing stigmas around aging and disability no that's like that's why people are oh don't see retarded and it's like ooh don't say geriatric it's like no those are like descriptive words and the fact that they like trigger you and make you feel offended is because you their value neutral yeah they are totally but people

place their own like negative connotations on them because to them being retarded or geriatric yeah always it has net is net is a negative yet to me none of these things are negative as somebody who's both geriatric and retarded like guess what we're all a little mentally impaired and we're all growing old well there's literally nothing you can do about anything insulting or shameful about growing older or being about using just descriptive terminology for like obviously you could use any word in a cruel hurtful way but the words themselves are value neutral and don't don't have the connotations if

there wasn't already the existing stigmas surrounding them yeah exactly like if we were in a society that respected its elders yeah I would love to be Jerry but like God bless this like spurgy neoliberal workplace consultant lady for she's like the James de more of women she didn't realize that it would a shitstorm this would unleash and also like you know the irony of writing a blog post like arguing that actually Millennials are not obsolete to the workforce when they like very clearly yeah it's like it's sweet of her it's really sweet that she portrays convince herself primarily that

she wasn't totally useless it's like lady she's like I know how to take down take a message when someone calls me on the phone I'm not afraid of voicemail but I can text I can use bitmoji I think only boomers use bitmojis right definitely but by the way you're useless and obsolete not because you're a geriatric millennial but because you're a thought leader slash workplace consultant because you're totally fake and gay made-up email job you've invested in in this kind of workplace culture that's ceasing to exist yeah and that's like awful and toxic I'm proud to be a non-binary geriatric millennial

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