Red Scare - #VaticanToo

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

The ladies discuss the Pope's forthcoming consecration of Russia and Ukraine and

The play starts it again. Hola, Ana. Hola, Tasha. Buenos tardes. Buenos noches. How is Mexico? It was fun, but I'm really upset that they missed out on Shen Yun, even though you guys walked out of it. We walked out towards the end. Yeah, because I asked someone, I was like, how much is left? And I kind of didn't want to walk out because I was like, I bet there'll be a payoff and maybe there would have been. Yeah. But yeah, I went to Shen Yun, the Falun Gong propaganda showcase at Lincoln Center. Wow. They rent out Lincoln Center. Isn't that insane? My how the institutions have fallen. Yeah, they're just hosting a Shen Yun show. Well,

you know, it's so crazy because we're going to be talking about Catholicism and miracles. So I was at like a random tequila bar in Mexico the night that you went to Shen Yun and there was posters up for Shen Yun in Espanol. And I was like, whoa, this is like weird and serendipitous because the marketing is like ubiquitous in New York, but it's nowhere to be found generally in Mexico. Yeah. Although it seems like they're really trying to spread their message. Yeah, and they have been something to do with their weird religion. What I gleaned from the show is yet there's like, we are divine being it's like, kind of crypto Christian, like we're divine beings whose thoughts prevent us from salvation. But mostly it's just these like

Chinese dances and then in between like a Chinese woman and I like I come out and like talk about it's very much like family oriented. There were a lot of like, there were like Chinese people there, but there was a lot of black people there, a lot of black families that were loving it. The best part of it was that I was sitting, I went with Alex Sabolus of No Agency, his girlfriend, Taylor and Goots from the drunken canal. The four of us went because we just, oh, because the Epoch Times called him, I guess, thinking he was like my publicist, which he sort of is, and asked him for like a quote from me. Epoch Times is the Fallen Gong. Oh, I know all about Epoch Times. So they called him asking for

like a quote from me about like censorship or something, like podcast related. And he was like, we are not going to give you a quote, but can we get Shen Yun tickets? And they kind of said no. And so he just got a stay switch, which was really, I thought the punchline was that they awarded him some free. We just got so excited about going to Shen Yun tickets run. I think they're pricey. I didn't ask because I didn't, I would have been employed, but they're, I think they're pricey. If they're renting out Lincoln Center and it was sold out, it was packed the theater. And everyone was wearing masks, which I was like, if your whole thing is like against communist China, like, come on. Yeah, but

that's a Lincoln Center thing. First and last time so many black people are going to be up in Lincoln Center. No, they're not going to jazz at Lincoln Center. They invented the genre. There was two black ladies in front of me that were like straight out of like a Comtown bit where they were like gasping and talking the whole time. And there was like a, there was an act about like a concubine and an emperor who was like pursuing her. And this lady was like, hmm, she was like, she don't want your ass. Like just yeah, loving it. Lots of people laughing at like the kind of low brow humor. It was a very low to middle brow show. Though I obviously have a high standard because I'm come from, you know,

a circus family. Right. And I've seen like Cirque du Soleil or like Russian people do ballet. So did the Shen Yun performance measure up or no? Not at all. It was so budget and like random and like kind of the, you know, they're like proficient at the dancing, but it was not dazzling. And it got to be very, very tedious. Yeah, I mean, so again, there was one, and I think, because when I was reading about it on the way there, there was lots of like, in the controversy tab on Wikipedia, they like get lots of blowback for being like against atheists and evolutions and gate, like they like for their politics and their anti communists, their anti communists, the whole idea is that like, look at what China was

like before communism infiltrated it and like ruined this beautiful culture or whatever. And they say that the dances aren't allowed to be performed in China and stuff. Well, yeah, I did some digging, ie I logged on to Wikipedia. Yeah. And I guess the other a nonprofit performing arts company that's like owned and operated by Falun Gong. And their stated purpose, according to Wikipedia is to revive Chinese culture and tradition from before the time of the communist revolution, which like, no offense, honey, you're not going to do by cladding your dancers in like cheap polyester threads that are like soaked in BPAs and Xeno estrogen or whatever. The only thing I know about Shen Yun is that I

used to hang out non sexually and strictly platonically with this Russian guy who me to me as in he was the aggressor, I've told the story a million times before, not I was the aggressor. But like, years later, after that traumatic experience, he became a reporter for the epoch Times, which I thought was really weird, because he was like, Oh, white guy. Yeah. And years later, I saw him at the mall. Okay. Like slanging Shen Yun tickets with two middle aged Chinese people. Yeah, I was like, weird, like tuxedo clad announcer in between acts was this white guy named like Jared. And I was like, How'd you get wrapped up in this? Yeah, well, well, I have a guess. For sure, probably. But yeah, I guess like,

I don't know enough about this topine, but like Falun Gong alleges that they're like, horribly persecuted in China, they're not I wouldn't be surprised. And they're like designated as a cult. And a lot of them have been like victims of China's like Oregon. Yeah. So there's one, there's one number that takes place in modern China, or there's one that's there's there's a couple where they like, and they're like, and now we'll take you back to modern China, where there's there's like a surgeon whose daughter is trying to practice Falun Gong in a park and she's apprehended by these like officers. I'm trying to do Chinese No, they had the Chinese lady playing the one string thing. And I was like, I see this

in Chinatown all the time. So I don't care. I see Shen Yun in the park every day. Those ladies whip out those fans. There was there was a fan number that I liked actually. But yeah, so then his daughter gets arrested by these like gymnastic policemen who have like hammer and sickles on their jackets and stuff. And then she's taken to there's no the set is bare. There's just rear projection. That's like how budgeted it is. It's just like, it's very net art, you know, it's like a rear projection screen screens that people dance in front of exactly. And it said like, and so she gets taken to something called like armed police hospital. I wrote yeah, armed police hospital. And then her organs are harvested in her

own father has to like, there's like some dramatic irony where her surgeon father is doing a heart transplant with his dad daughter's heart. And it's like, it's, it's not really that coherent. And they don't make modern China look bad at all. Like I thought it was going to be like billowing kind of like factories and like, it just looks totally fine, except people aren't allowed to practice fallen gong there. And so their whole like premise follow falls a little flat. But I do think they toned it down. Probably because it's it's like the Daily Mail. Like I was getting lunch with somebody and they were like, you know, like the Daily Mail is a widely reviled conservative newspaper in Britain. And they do a really

great job like whitewashing their image and reputation for like, American readers who only see the salacious gossip. Right, right. And I was like, no, I, I thought the salacious gossip was bad enough. Exactly. By which I mean, good enough, because I love, I love the Daily Mail. Yeah, I know it's right wing. I like it even more. Yeah, but it's like the same kind of they're trying to lure you in with the Chinese dancing to teach you something about communist China. But I didn't walk away from it, particularly radicalized, you know. Yeah. But also it seems like from everything I've heard and I'd love to check out a performance if anyone wants to reconsider and throw some free tics. Just like, it's fun for the whole

family. The actual production is kind of like, whatever, not very good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's my Shenyang review. You know, maybe skip it. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm really regretful that I missed it. And if anyone from the Epoch Times is listening, maybe tell them to up the propaganda a little bit, you know, I wanted more, not less, maybe like a segment on the Ewan dog meat festival, which really gets American Lib panties in a bunch. When they steal her heart, too, that's literally like a box with like a picture of a heart, which was a yeah, interesting prop design choice. But I don't know, it wasn't, it didn't make an impact really. But we had fun. Yeah, it was kind of perfect. And how weird and bad

it was. Yeah. And it's just great to get out, you know, see some culture. I know that's like how I felt in Mexico. Yeah, it was nice to literally, I literally did not go on my phone. Yeah. And like, that's nice. I need a vacay. Yeah, you should go to Mexico. I might. What's not to love about Mexicans? First of all, they're like, humble, they're hardworking, they're religious. They believe in family values. They're Morrissey fans. They love the killers. They're really nice and generous up until the point that they decide to commit femicide. And then they're like, Aztec birthright comes to the fore and they become brutal warriors and murderers. And they're not sending their best to. I'm

doing a Trump. Yeah, he said that he said they're not sending their best. But even he must love Mexicans. Everybody loves Mexicans. They probably like him too. Yeah. Yeah. No, it looked amazing. You went to Oaxaca. I went to Oaxaca and I bought so much shit. I had to get another suitcase. Yeah. At the shopping. Yeah. Women be shopping. Yeah. Like it was literally a cagey and I like shopping up a storm while the men waited and like talked about politics and he was like, you know, shopping is women sublimating their ambition. And I was like, damn. Ambition for what? Just like for more constructive activities. Like any constructive activity, name it. Yeah. I guess. No, I think it really is because

I like, you know, I think women are frivolous. Fundamentally. Yeah, innately, you know, and so they're gathering. Yeah, they're drawn to gathering and shopping. Shiny objects, shiny objects. They just can't help themselves. Good deals. They bleed helplessly. Like I'm bleeding currently and I feel like a totally helpless animal. And I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't be involved in society. Like I can't even control my body. How could I control my mind? Yeah. Through shopping. Through shopping. They're making consumer choices. No, like you sublimate all of your like intellectual and critical faculties into like the art of like curating a kind of lifestyle for yourself or for others. And I like literally touched

down, like spread everything out. And I was like, I have like a whole tienda a key I can like sell my wares. Yes. Well, that's your mercantile. Yeah, I was like, I just love curating and arranging objects. I want to have an aesthetic life. Okay. Well, it's kind of hard to achieve that in New York. Yeah, it's a struggle. But that's I mean, that's how I felt in Japan. Mm hmm. I was like literally like going to multiple malls and going into every store and looking at every like little bobble and like chachki that I could like get my hands and eyes on and grubby little ones. And even when I go to like Japanese grocery stores, I'm like, I like want a cute little thing, which there's a lot of them

cropping up in New York now. Yeah. And there's like, when I came back, there was literally just like five new vintage stores on the orchard, Lodlow area. Oh, interesting. And half of them are selling like incredibly like overpriced versions of stuff you can get in Mexico. I have like a fraction of the cost. I haven't been shopping really because I spent all my money because I ran out of money. But also, yeah, it's still lent, y'all. It is. Yeah, I'm going to do like a great fast and no fab February, but a no shop April, which doesn't have the same ring to it, but I'm like not going to buy anything but essentials in April. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm done now. That's my personal lent. Yeah, well, no, Allison gave

up online shopping for one. Well, how bad is her habit? Pretty bad. Okay. Where does she put all the stuff? I think she probably does this a similar thing to us where we make make some returns. Yeah, we run some we like, that's us also sublimating our ambition. It is. We have to go make our return. Like I have to print and sign these documents. Schedule a pickup. I have to walk down to the real. I always go to the store. Wait, you can return and store at the real. Yeah. And because I live in Soho, I it's, yeah, it's awesome. And sometimes I still can't make it into the real store. And then I have to just be like, yeah, you have to like, just always eat the cost of this bad, bad purchase. But no, I

have been I have been shopping actually for like Catholic ephemera on on Etsy, sometimes on Ambien. And then I'll get like my hat, my yeah, my apartment is looking. There is there's definitely a lot of like religious stuff in my house. Josh would love Mexico. It's just like religious sites where you can buy stuff and then religious stores catering to devoid to Catholic use. Yeah. And it all has kind of like a dark and maudlin. Well, you know, I don't be liking Dio Deus. No, I know, I know I steered clear of that myself. People were like, you should go to the Frida Kahlo Museum. And I was like, I think I'll skip it because it's not her fault. But I really associate her with that whole with

the skeleton. Well, this I this Mexican restaurant in my neighbor, I'm trying not to say identifying details in my neighborhood has these Dia de los Muertos, like big statues up year round. Yeah, my Día. What part of Día do you not understand? Okay, it's not a year round. It's be would be like having like deranged Halloween decorations up year round. It's so I find it to be really disgusting and offensive. And I was like, I know it's I was like, should I write a letter? And I was like, if you write a letter to a restaurant about their like Mexican decorations, like that's not going to reflect. I am a Catholic and I am personally offended by the devil worship. Yeah. Just one day. And it's in like October. Yeah, but

I kind of do vibe with the cult of death. Sure. Of like, all of the kind of like indigenous tribes of Mexico, because I like their philosophy. It's like, I just specifically don't like the way aesthetically the skeleton, the skeletons with the flower crowns and the like flames in their eyes. Yeah, it's corny. It's corny. It reminds me of Burning Man, like that Venn diagram is just a little too close to being a circle for me to survive with it. No, I know like, Mexico can lead with so much more like they can lead with the red clay pottery and like the traditional art the baskets or they could lead with like the Spanish colonial Catholicism, which is like droopy and gothic, but not cringe. Yeah. And not too creepy. Yeah.

And not it's not too like, yeah, Italian and creepy. Yeah, I it's sad that they're like whole aesthetic has been kind of like yassified in America. I know. Yeah. Well, that's what America does. Yeah. And yeah, the gasification of the Vatican. Oh, the gasification of Vatican two, which I just learned. I know that this has been explained to me a million times, but I like literally this has been a recurring theme in my wife and the pod. Yeah, the second Vatican Council, the Vatican two counter church, which I guess what else is on the docket? The consecration of Russia. Yeah. Major. We can talk about because the war I'm I can't I had a friend tell me recently she like had to know their parents and when they like parted

ways, her parents are like, okay, we're going to go home and watch the war. Like, and I just refuse to kind of bear witness or even pay attention to it at all because it's really upsetting. And also makes me feel hysterical incomprehensible. And my therapist thinks I'm sublimating my like anguish about the incomprehensible, senseless war into no, the Vatican into like Rome into like new anxieties that I've unearthed since given up drinking about the papacy and Rome and stuff and the second Vatican Council. I mean, I think like all religious people, you are sublimating the fundamental incomprehensibility and complexity of the world into religious devotion, which I think is the the healthiest sublimation.

That's what I think too. Like it's sort of inevitable that people do it one way or another. My therapist says like Ukraine's kind of the elephant in the room, but I'm doing great like R&D on my spiritual life. Even though, yeah, it might manifest in ways that are seem manic. But you've dug up some interesting dirt. I've dug up some information. Well, I this has been going on. This has been. Oh, man. Okay, so on Friday, Pope Francis is going to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary per the instructions of a Marian apparition in Fatima, Portugal back in 1917. How convenient. Now, how convenient that that

apparition happened in 1917 on the eve of the Bolshevik Revolution. Well, yeah, you can say convenient. You can say miraculous. Yes, you know, I do believe in our lady. I will. So people saw a miracle. A ton of people in Portugal saw the sun like roll around in the sky like crazy. They like saw it. But specifically Fatima appeared to three like children, one of which the other two died or something and one and one became I died in the Spanish flu epidemic. And that whole story, well, okay, I went down that rabbit hole, which we can get into later. But that whole story is also crazy. But originally, when you proposed this topic, I was a little confused as to why and I also felt somewhat

intimidated because I'm like totally out of my element. And then as I was reading it, it pertains kind of totally to yeah, well, it also like totally tickles your autism. I'm so glad you said that. It's like a nesting doll of logical propositions. Yeah. And there's so many like threads. So I found out about something called set of ecantism, which I was not told about, you know, years ago when I started when I returned to the church back in 2019 when we went to Latin mass and had mecca on the pod and we're like, you know, there was this kind of like trad cat, weird cat, like Twitter thing happening and like being trad was becoming a thing. And this like veneration of the Latin mass, which was changed

in the second Vatican Council, they all tried to explain this to us at that brunch we went to in like 2019. Yeah, if you recall. No, of course, I remember. I was like, this feels like a porno set. I'm sorry to insult those nice boys. They were sweet because we were the only women. Yeah, we were the only women until the two other I think two other women showed up but like wearing like stupid dresses and like crouching Kellyanne Conway style while these men in slacks like milled about nervously. I went to a couple of those branches. I have a friend I still am friends with people I met, you know, in the other nice guys in that era. I do not identify as a set of so a set of ecantism is a Catholic thing who

rejects the second Vatican Council as you would think that the trad cats do and claim to but thinks that the sea of Rome, the papacy, the chair of Peter or whatever the Pope is illegitimate and hasn't been basically since the second Vatican Council. And there's a lot of very compelling evidence that the Vatican was totally infiltrated by Freemasons. And like that's why they changed the mass and made it more and that's why the church is becoming like increasingly progressive AKA satanic because it's just global homo. Exactly. The Vatican's been just totally compromised and that and everyone kind of knows that but it really throws a wrench in the gears of like Catholic dogma because part of being

Catholic is being loyal to the Pope, you know, and the Vatican. Yeah. So that's why I said it, we can't just call it the Vatican to counter church and Pope Francis, the anti Pope, they like or do it. It is really autism central. Yeah, it's it's crazy. It really is a nesting doll. And there's so many different queries. And there's so many. Yeah, like, because the history of Catholicism is so vast, you can really pick and choose like different interpretations of like, can and law and quotes from various like saints and folks throughout history that kind of make a case for a set of ecantism that does make sense. Yeah, well, no, the thing I read a thing that seems very crucial to this particular issue, which is that Marian visions

or apparitions are not part of the quote core doctrine. And so therefore not required for religious belief. So you can reject specific accounts of these events while remaining within the Catholic Church. Am I interpreting that correctly? So there's a lot of disagreement. Yeah, absolutely. And the way but I think Fatima is widely agreed to have been like a real event. No, that a real miracle. Fatima is but I think like the what sister Lucia who's like the last surviving child. She's dead now. She's dead now to the last surviving child. She was the one who knew the three secrets. Yes. But it's unclear what she met when she relayed our ladies words. Wow, like this is like sort of like so I was reading

about her. Yeah, there were two consecrations of Russia already. There have been a lot of consecrations of Russia, but by popes by anti popes. No, by popes, by popes, by popes, but they people are a lot of Catholics really have a problem with set of acantism because I'm not a set of acantist. By the way, I just have a gut feeling about Francis not being the Pope and I don't I think if God wanted me to understand it, I would and I don't. So I can only I can only use my faculties of intuition which were given to me by God and my Lent and sacrifice of giving up alcohol to do lots of research. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. AKA yeah, be autistic. Right. Alcohol consumption is like inversely proportional to levels of

autism. I think that's that's true. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, if you want to find out if you're autistic, take a break from drinking. That's right. But these the two prior consecrations one in 1952 by Pius and one in 1984. Pius did it twice by JP, who's very popular in Mexico, by the way. I got a soft spot for JP because he's Polish. I don't know if he's the Pope. I saw a picture of him kissing the Quran, which doesn't seem like something the Pope should ever do. I think it doesn't make any sense. No, no, but that's the thing with how can you yeah, religions when they try to adapt to the modern world and like assimilate their core values. That's like the scary thing because the whole point of

religion is that it's supposed to be somewhat literal and inflexible. It's supposed to introduce constraint into people's lives. Yeah, it's not a free for all. Yeah, and no hell no dignity constraint. That's not self imposed because we all know how that goes. It's very hard to hold your own self. Mm hmm. Right to without the grace of God. Yes. Yeah. And it's much more manageable when there's an entire community of people who operate according to the same standards. So I have like a fundamental like just like logical issue with religions trying to modernize even though I understand and sympathize with their aims. Yes. Yes, but it's simply undeniable that Freemasons were present at the Vatican

that they did have some influence that Freemasons are clearly evil. I know absolutely nothing about Freemason. They literally like are a society of like they worship like reason and Lucifer like the Freemasons are f'd up and people need to be talking about it more and Nagasaki where Harry Truman, who was this isn't even like a conspiracy. He just was a Freemason of the 33rd order dropped an atomic bomb on Nagasaki, which was like the Rome of Japan murdered tons of Catholics. Why, you know, I mean, why would you drop an atomic bomb anywhere? Whatever. But there's a very compelling case for for that. But so there are schisms within Catholicism who say that schisms within schisms within schisms who

so I went to two masses of an organization called the SSPX, the Society of St. Pius, the 10th, who are these are some pamphlets that I'm trying to who are we? What are we doing? Looks ominous. It's I that are that this this priest named like something with that started around the time of the second Vatican counselor, maybe, you know, maybe in the 70s, he ordained a bunch of. Okay, God, okay, I have to I have to go back. Okay, so I think that it's so important that you do Latin mass and like be tried and practice traditional Catholicism, but they don't seem it's incoherent because when they change the Latin mass, they also change the priest ordination rights big time. Okay. But they what you're

saying is the trads are hypocrites because they're larping, they're larping big time. And they think their mats is valid, but are sort of willfully blind to the fact that their priests may not be, if you care about that sort of thing, which they claim to. I'm I'm I'm doing my own thing. I think you've actually just like furnished an explanation for why people should be religious, which is kind of all questions of like devotion and salvation aside. It's just like, if you want to go down that rabbit hole, it's like very mentally gratifying gratifying or is it like my life? No, it's like doing a crossword puzzle or one of those quote, right wing LSAT questions. Did you see that tweet about the LSAT questions

or the guy, the guy was like, Okay, law school is done. I'm over it because he was taking like a practice. I don't know. And like, he felt that the questions were right wing because they were like about electric cars and climate change. And he didn't agree with the premises laid out there in. So to him, it was like kind of like moral coercion by like authoritarian actors. When it was really like, you know, as Glenn Greenwald put it with his dogged litigators mind, that like the whole nature of the LSAT is to test like reasoning skills by making you infer things from like logically from premises that you don't necessarily agree with, but that have an kind of internal coherence. Okay, you know what I'm saying? No, exactly.

I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah. So like, I should just and so the SSPX is an organization that maintains the Latin mass and the ordination of priests in the correct way. But they, they claim to not be schismatic because they are in communion with Rome. They like reject the Vatican Council, but kind of the second Vatican Council. But like because Catholics have to be obedient to Rome, they just are like, they it's just so wait, does that mean that they ordain their own parallel, like structure of priests? Yes. Okay. And they're very I mean, the mass I went to was in a hotel conference room on the upper west side. If anyone wants to go, you won't see me there again. So don't you know, don't

try and go there to kill me or anything. But you can look it up. But yeah, I went to two the priest at the first one, you know, high autism quotient overall in the room. But the priest was like, his name was something Robinson, he's been on Tucker, and he talked about Tucker in his homily, which I thought was a little inappropriate. And then we all prayed for the consecration and conversion of Russia, which is how I interpret, you know, the demand that it be consecrated. And then afterwards, so there's so Fatima had three secrets, right? Yeah, what's the third detail? Well, first of all, what are the first two because I kind of missed that. The first one was a vision of hell. Oh, right. And a lot of people going

to hell. Fatima saw the Great Reset. A lot of people going to hell. If they don't perform, you know, penance and embrace the one true faith with all of this. And the second one was the that if Russia isn't consecrated, that there would be a second World War that would be even worse, which came to bear did come come to bear. So she says, if my requests are heated, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not, she will spread her arrows throughout the world, causing war and persecutions of the church, the good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer and various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my immaculate heart will triumph, the Holy Father will consecrate Russia to

me and she will be converted in a period of peace will be granted to the world. Okay, now I have a question. I have many questions, but this is the first question. When they talk about the conversion of Russia, do they mean Russians converting in mass to Catholic or do they mean the union of the Catholic and Orthodox churches in some other kind of provisional agreement sort of meant? Well, the Second Vatican Council kind of is they're kind of like all religions are fine. But yeah, they mean like the SSPX interpretation is yeah, like a conversion to Catholicism, a healing of the schism between the Orthodox and the Catholic Church, in which Catholicism is the real the real one. The third secret

no one knows because Sister Lucy wasn't meant to reveal it until 1960. And then in 1960, which is when the Second Vatican Council was happening, they said like, we'll never reveal the secret. And then they did reveal it in 2000. John Paul II did and they said it was like something about the Pope getting like shot. It was like something really clearly made up and like not the third secret. So no one knows. But the Tucker Carlson priest SSPX told me that he knows a guy now dead named Malachi Martin, who writes like these, who was like an exorcist who wrote these like novels about the Vatican, that he saw the third secret and that it said Kiev on it. It was I was like, he saw Lucy's recipe for

chicken cubes saw the piece of paper that Sister Lucy wrote the secret on and it said Kiev on it and that it has something to do with Kiev and the Vatican will never let us know. And then he also he also told me that Lukashenko was denied a bribe from the World Health Organization related to like lockdowns and vaccines for COVID. And I was like, why are you a priest like saying this much like the priest who called into Red Scare and wanted advice from the likes of us. Yeah, exactly. That did raise many, many doubts in my mind about contemporary priesthood. So you see why like, people do turn to schisms like SSPX, because they want to be religious in a more traditional way. Well, yeah, but also they

want to stay loyal to Rome because they're cowards and liars. Well, if they break from Rome, they're no longer the Catholic Church as such. And they start to yeah, that's where the autism really gets ramps up and because then you're like, well, what does it really mean to be part of the church? The Magisterium is supernatural, you know, and if like, if there really is a clown at the seat of Peter, if the Pope is really an anti Pope, then it's actually not Catholic to be loyal to him. And the more Catholic thing to do is like, I don't know. Well, it's like, I'm just trying to be Catholic. I just want to be Catholic. Um, I'm just trying to go to heaven, y'all. So, so sister, okay, so the thing about Sister

Lucy, there's a horrible website called VaticanCatholic.com. Don't go on it because much like Daily Mail and Shenyun, it does a lot of, um, schizoid right wing dog whistling to like kind of draw people into it where then they give you the real facts about the Vatican, some of which are also dubious. And so I called the phone number on VaticanCatholic.com weeks ago because I was like, I'm on your website. I'm like, I'm understanding what you're saying. I think but, um, if I were to make a confession, how would I, how am I meant to find a validly ordained priest? And they told me that I would have to find a priest who is either ordained in the Eastern right. They did not tell me about SSPX, by the way, I don't know why,

but, um, the man was very mean on the phone. He was very uncharitable on Catholic. He, um, he said, I'd have to find a priest ordained in the Eastern right or like a Ukrainian one or, um, a priest ordained prior to 1962. And I said, well, what am I supposed to do when all those priests die? How do I get absolved of my sins? And he laughed and said, Oh, I don't think you understand that it's end times. And, you know, not no, not no, but yeah, in end times, I was kind of getting into it with like a autistic person, Instagram account, tradcast SSPX person that was like DM'd me and was like, um, are you Catholic? SSPX is as good as like, they're really cult is the thing is I was like, listen, I was like, my

priest is valid. My sacraments are valid. You don't need to worry about me. And they're like, no, please come to SSPX, um, which creeped me out. Anyway, desperation is a stinky clone. It really is. Yeah. And it's like, you wouldn't be, I don't know, when you have the truth on your side. And Jesus says the, you know, the gates of hell will never triumph. And that's really what I believe as a Christian. Yeah, well, you have to, I'm sorry, I took an edible earlier and now I'm sipping some of this mess Cal and I feel very psychedelic. I mean, it's a really psychedelic psychedelic thing. No, I'm seriously considering becoming religious Catholic. Well, let's get the baby baptized. Well, let's get the baby baptized.

I as much as I would love to dunk the baby in water. I don't think Eli's going to go for that. You guys are going to be Jewish. Well, what do you mean by religious? No, I mean, I just want to, I want to go, I want to get into these like autistic logic puzzles about I don't really care about my own spiritual salvation at this point. I figure I'm going to hell, but I would love to figure out, you know, answers to questions like, well, if Pope John Paul consecrated the world, but didn't say Russia specifically name Russia, does that mean that Russia is consecrated on a technicality? No, or does that make the whole thing null and void? Clearly, Russia hasn't been consecrated because we are in

end times. Well, and then the other question is if Pope Francis the anti-consecrates Russia, but also names Ukraine, does that also render that consecration inadequate? In my opinion, there's just so many directions you could go with this. In my opinion, it's most would be most rendered inadequate by Pope Francis not being the real Pope. True, which is why none of the consecrations have have worked. But I mean, they haven't worked, they haven't brought peace to the world through the vector of Russia. Yeah, but I will continue to pray for his intentions as I'm meant to as a Catholic. But I went to the Vatican last summer. Yeah, and it was clown central, man. It felt like a movie set over there. Yeah, it's like kind

of a tourist trap at this point. Also, I did not feel like a holy place. Here's say that. Well, no, all those gypsy families running around. Steal your iPhone from your fjallraven backpack. Okay, the other question I have that's unrelated to is, is it legitimate to sell stuff in front of a Catholic Church because they do that at the Vatican and they were doing that at the shrine of the Virgin of Guadalupe in Mexico when I visited and bought a bunch of Catholic chachkes. I'm assuming the proceeds go to the church. No, because they're like private vendors. Hmm. I mean, they sell things in churches. I know, but how is that legitimate? That always bothers me. Like you shouldn't sell stuff in a place

of worship. Am I crazy? I mean, you sell like booklets and rosaries and stuff and those go back, you know, those are like, if it benefits the church, I think it's fine. Right. But what about if you're a private vendor? Yeah, what about the people that like assemble outside to ply their wares? I mean, I guess no one can stop them. Yeah, but that seems like very un-Catholic. You would think that they'd like issue an edict to get all those miscreants off the grounds. Yeah, I don't think it pleases God, but I don't think there's anything at this. But there's way bigger problems in the Catholic Church, and there's like guys outside like selling bottles of holy water, which is probably just like flat

topo chico that they like. It might be blessed, but who knows? Like, but the priest who blessed it was probably ordained invalidly. I'm, you know, I don't know. It's not my place as a woman. It's not my place to say. No, I'm not meant to understand. That's why I kind of don't. But that's the whole part of being a woman, too, is that you through no credit of your own, through no doing of your own have earned the like cosmic right to opt out of understanding the world, which is why so many men want to be women these days because you really get to not take responsibility for anything. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it does. Yeah. You know, Jesus, take the wheel. Mm hmm. As the black lady said.

Oh, Jesus, take the wheel, you know, just I mean, I wish I never found out what set of ecantism was. I really do. How do you spell set of ecantism? S E D E. It means the sea is vacant. I see the, which I love, I love that it's called the sea instead of a seat. Like, so stupid, Roman. But so wait, so did I mention that Vatican Catholic dot com thinks sister Lucy's was murdered and she's a decoy? No, definitely not. Okay, that's yeah, that's that's something I learned from on Vatican Catholic dot com. So they think that sister Lucy is fake also. And they have they have like photos of her side by side here. I'm going to show you actually because I was looking at this 87 page long PDF document last night.

That because I don't like to go on Vatican. This is her. This is the real sister Lucy on top and that's the fake sister Lucy. But I'm kind of like that's the same woman. You're not convinced. Your sister Lucy. No, no, no, I was initially, but then I'm just really drunk. I think it's the same lady. I think she glowed up a little. She did. Yeah. And she probably aged well because she was pious and stuff. But it just does it seems plausible to me that she's the same, the same lady. But she did start saying totally different stuff also but that you know, what do you mean totally different stuff like about the apparition and the secrets and stuff. But that's because I think power corrupts generally

and she just got too close to the Vatican. Yeah, she got too close to the Pope, which I'm just pop all the sex. Yeah, I'm trying to see. I do not endorse Vatican Catholic dot com. I think it's a totally vile website. And I think the best marketing and I think ever. And I'm just like, I'm not telling you to go on the website. I actually think it's wrong to compromise people's simple faith by telling them about this autistic crab. You know, like I don't think you're going to hell if you are in communion with Rome because you don't understand Freemasonry like the kind of esoteric minutiae of exactly. There's just no way. There's just no way that's what God wants. I'm sorry. No, it's it's I think,

you know, at the risk of sounding elitist. When do we not? There's just something wrong in general about like redpilling normies against certain realities. Yeah. Exactly. You know, to quote the Russians with attitude guys, when they were talking about normies falling for like the most blatant Ukraine psyops and propaganda, you know, they said that it was like inhumane and akin to animal testing, which I think I said on the previous episode, it really vividly stuck with me. What is it kind of like my memory of being molested as a child? I'm kidding. I I think a lot of set of acantists have been molested. Well, yeah, well, either by a priest or generally, but like, I think being molested makes you very

wary of authorities that shouldn't be trusted. I probably wasn't molested unless I've repressed it really well. I can tell you weren't molested because you have a deep voice. Thank you. I agree. Yeah, I agree. But I do tend to spark I'm kind of it's a little reminiscent of my like Epstein. Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like I think there is something I should make a movie out of about the Fatima. No, but you can do it in the sun rolling around. Yeah, it's like a Soundgarden music video. No, but you could totally do it in a you can depart from the boring and mediocre historical depictions of movies such as spotlight and do something much more common CS that like embodies kind of the psychedelic and spiritual aspects of

Catholicism, first person perspective. That's not a bad idea. I don't think I'm ready yet. I think I've got to do more research. And I will. Yeah, you should consider it and you can always cast Lenny as the boy martyr who died of influenza. No, that whole story was like really crazy because I was reading about it on Wikipedia yet again. And so Lucia's two cousins, I think their names are Franco and Jacinta died when they were like eight and nine of Spanish flu and COVID 17. Yes. The mess Cal hits different. Mm hmm. Yeah. This one has like the worm. It's made by Catholics. Yeah, it is. And I was reading the Wikipedia entry and they were talking about how like both children kind of in their death throws

refused medical treatment, which is a pretty advanced and sophisticated thing for a child to do. Mm hmm. Which made me think like the whole thing was like sort of Greta Thunberg in retrospect. Mm hmm. Yeah, I know what you mean. I have my doubts about Sister Lucy, dude. Well, like a lot of the stuff around her seems kind of politicized. But again, I'm too like, of course, yeah, of course, it was out of my element. Yeah. Yeah, she was definitely operationalized as like in service of like anti anti communist anti Russian propaganda. And it's interesting that she's being invoked again, this new consecration with the war in Ukraine. And it's like, bro, we are so past like consecrating Russia, but we will

continue to pray for well, and one of the one of these like kind of technical like logical questions surrounding the prior contested consecrations was like, well, one of them happened when Russia was still USSR and therefore Ukraine was still within its boundaries. Okay. So now, like, now we'll now Francis is going to consecrate it to Russia solely. No, he's well, he's going to mention Ukraine. So okay, that's not what Fatima said. Yeah, I mean, who knows what she knows what she was on about and Sister Lucy, I have my doubts, whatever. I was like, did these people just provide an explanation for why Ukraine is actually a part of Russia and should continue to be Wow.

Father Robinson at the SSP Xmas did say something really he was like, of course, we want the war to stop, we pray for the war to stop. But he was like, Putin has, you know, renovated a lot of Orthodox churches that were destroyed during the Soviet era. And I was like, dude, what are you talking about? Like, he like, man, what is going on here? But I will say I did feel God's presence in that room. Even though everyone was super weird. I was like, it's nice somehow, you know, that these people are doing this, even though it might not be the right fit for me. Yes, statically, spiritually, politically, what? What are you just don't think you should be? I don't think you need to be magged out, like, to be Catholic. No,

definitely not. It's just so besides the point, and all these like false traditionalists, trad cats, whatever, seem to politicize their Catholicism in such a way that it just makes it seem sorted. Well, again, yeah, it's like all these people have basically, they think sublimated their political and existential dread into religious devotion, which makes it again, like me, like me. Well, you can't disprove it because who are you to say that like so and so is not sufficiently devoted, right? And I think like if they have this like entire like legacy and orthodoxy behind them, it just feels more legitimate. However, people need to do it that works for them, whatever gets you to salvation. I read one of the articles

you sent me and it was like so autistic, they actually had to explain the nature and function of like figurative language. Like this part. Again, none of these questions are intended to raise doubts about the authenticity of the apparitions. They do however reveal an inherently ambiguous nature of all revelations, particularly private revelations, a revelation occurs in a specific time and place and so will be influenced by that time and place. Even our Lord was bound in a way by this. He used parables that related to the life of a first century Jew, not a 21st century American. You mean religion? Yeah, that's just religion. Of course, the principles of his messages are timeless. Michael

Tracy should get into Catholicism. It might really. Yeah, everyone should get into Catholicism, but but yeah, he that would really scratch an edge. I think he he likes to get a scratch, though he's probably traumatized by being Irish and Italian. No, it's unfortunate how many people have turned away. How many people are Irish and Italian? It's unfortunate. And I'd like to consecrate. I pray for the consecration of every earlier and asked me what consecration was. And she was like, it's just something they say. And I was like, yeah, it's literally so confused. I thought there was like some deeper meaning. I understand there's like a formal ceremony, but it was like, it's just like a thing they say. And that's like, it's

just something that's fine with spiritual authority. Hopefully a legitimate Pope says that hasn't has has influence. Yeah. That's crazy. So any Pope can just say anything. And he can't say anything heretical, which the many popes since that the Vatican to Council have done. They shouldn't be kissing Karan's, I guess. I mean, no, and I think about this all the time. You're with me. No, I'm 100% with you because I think about this all the time. Thank you. I love gay guys. They're some of my best friends, even though they many of them have a sinister streak. But like, you can't be gay and Catholic. I mean, you can be in practice, but not in principle. You can be gay and Catholic if you don't do

sodomy. I.e. you become a priest, but then you end up doing sodomy. No, you can be. Yeah, you can't do I mean, you can. You can't get married. But you like can try. You can try to be Catholic. No, I know, but there's all these new things where like people are like, I'm a Mormon only fans girl, or I'm a Muslim gamer. And it's like those things are like not I'm a Muslim man who takes selfies. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, religion means nothing to anyone anymore. And that's, yeah. Obviously, if you're if you're like queer, you're queer. But if you choose to be religious in addition to that, like, I think then you have to take that L and suffer in silence. Well, there's not a person alive who's without sin, right?

You know? So that's part of the beauty of Catholicism that gets lost in a lot of this like very litigious, frankly, Jewish like, mishegaz or whatever. Are you accusing the Catholics of being Jews? I think the set of acantists have a Jewish streak in that it's a very Jewish approach. It's a very Talmudic approach to Catholicism and part of the. Well, that's why I'm drawn to it. Yeah. But part of the, you know, the beauty and wisdom of Catholicism is sort of God's infinite mercy and sin, sinners and saints all being part of the system of Catholicism, you know, it's like, you can't really have one without the other. It's dialectics, y'all. Yeah, like that thing Adorno said about psychoanalysis,

that it's fundamentally like evil and harmful because it purports to bring you face to face with your conflicts, but it actually allows you to like mystify your conflicts through language. Yeah, like you can always, you know, reason ad nauseam about like what happened to you as a child and how your parents traumatized you and that in a way prevents you from taking action. Yeah. In the now or whatever. And it seems like set of acantism, am I saying that correctly? Provides people with like an outlet for to like displace their activities into autistic logic games. Yeah. Yeah. Which again, I don't mean as a diss at all because I'm personally very attracted to it. What? Yeah, I get it for sure, obviously. But it's

I yeah, it's they make a lot of salient points. And whereas the Society of St. Pius II makes a lot of kind of incoherent points that I find to be untenable, you know, which is like the Pope's real, but we don't listen to anything he says, and we are like trad. And it just they actually believe that they cannot they they don't think they're in schism. But neither do set of acanthas. I mean, I think being a trad cat is literally being in a state of existential schism because the cognitive dissonance must be exactly real. Yeah, exactly. That's why I've been spiraling for weeks. But are your parents religious? My mom is Catholic, my dad is Orthodox. Okay, my dad's very non religious. My mom was sort of religious when

she was younger. I was very religious as a child. I've also reached out to my grandmother and Belarus for the first time in like a long time, because I'm trying to find out the name of the man who baptized me. And she told me he came actually from from the Vatican, which disturbed me greatly. But that's also totally the kind of thing my grandma would make up. You know, wait, I take back that part about you not being molested. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was a year or maybe I was like a year and a half old. What do your parents think of your Catholicism? They're like kind of supportive. They're down with the cloud. They're like, they probably think it's weird, but we're not getting too in depth into it. I'm just

telling them, you know, that I'm like, receiving sacraments, going to confession and stuff. Okay. My dad was like, I don't know about any of that stuff. I'm happy for you. And yeah, but my yeah, my mom's not thrilled that I'm talking to my grandma because I think what she makes, she's my mom's sort of cross to bear in this way. And it just opens up another avenue of conversation. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. I won't. Whatever. I won't press on her. My grandma also is, I think maybe my grandma thinks she saw a Marianne apparition. She's that kind of person, which I might might be. I mean, it's called being a woman. It's called being a hysterical Catholic woman. Yeah. We see what we want to see women especially

be, be seeing what we want to see, which is, you know, what makes them great? Well, it's a feature, not a bug. Exactly. Exactly. And I'll just say sister Lucy was a woman too. And I used to rail against this even on the podcast that the problem is that women were are dishonest with themselves and force everyone else to be a witness to their dishonesty. But more and more, I'm realizing that it's actually like baked into the cake and I was kind of an autist for barking up that tree and I should just let women have their bullshit and their shopping. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm down. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been reading a lot of like medieval Christian writings, like, like the desert father, like early Chris

like St. Augustine and like early Christian kind of stuff about specifically about sexuality because I was I thought I could find a loophole for jacking off, which there absolutely is not one don't even bother. But well, so I so I read I read this book called Church Fathers and Independent Virgins. That's kind of like, I took a medieval sexuality medieval Europe class in college, where I was assigned textbooks sort of like this where they're like, look how misogynistic like early Christianity was, but it actually makes total sense. Like I'm like, everything these guys are saying is totally true. And women are absolutely insane because the things in their bodies are unstable, and they don't have any control over them.

And so they I mean, Interaxia Mirabilis. Exactly. They're like, inherently more carnal, more compromised than men are they have, you know, there were BPD art hose, even in the Middle Ages. Yeah. But the crazy thing about reading like old religious texts that, of course, like scholars of the Renaissance forward will try to also like mystify is that you know, like there's this whole like, especially in art history, there's this whole idea that like, people were less sophisticated and more ignorant during the Middle Ages. And it's like, no, no, no, they saw everything. They just selectively chose to engage with certain things over others. Yeah. Like they understood human psychology and human sexuality, maybe

not in the ways that we do now, but in comparable terms. Yeah. Well, they they in Christianity, at least they really saw, you know, the carnal and the spiritual as being like, fundamentally incompatible, which is why like, celibacy afforded like, mystics and aesthetics kind of like great respect and power, because they were less tethered sort of to the earthly realm. I like that less tethered to the earthly realm. And so like, female mystics and like female, like, women who were celibate for spiritual purposes, really, like kind of confounded the early church, because they were still sort of like subjugated as women, but because they were celibate, they have like their own

set of like privileges and powers or whatever, because celibacy does give you powers, it just does. Yeah, I think Mike Tyson, but and then the other thing is like, the way to avoid having to deal with coming up with loopholes and work rounds for jacking off is to go down the rabbit hole of autistic Catholicism, you don't have time to jack off because you're like, I don't even I'll never jack off again. Yeah, it's just like until I read every PDF and self published book on set of a cantism, which I just can't seem to understand, there must be a reason. It must be my limited faculties as a woman. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you said it not me. I'm not barking up the misogyny tree anymore. You're not. No, just not for this

episode. Okay, I'm feeling very Zen and charitable. It's not misogynistic. It's just no, you know, I think it gives women and I think women have way higher intuitive faculties that are basically more important than like faculties of reason and logic. Actually, they're just more fallible. They're more fallible. I think that they work in a balance and you need like both sides. I guess that sounds corny, but it's true. No, that's true. That's why a marriage between a man and a woman is the perfect union. True. Because you get to achieve they check each other. Yeah. Yeah. As long as there's respect and honor between both parties, you can kind of fulfill a spiritual life together. How do you feel about abortion? Just kidding.

I think I think that you nailed it. The consecration. So wait, what are your? What are your predictions for the concentration of concentration for the consecration, which is an even bigger event than the Oscars? Like, I guess the question is, will the Pope be a libtard and pull some bullshit? Of course, the Pope's going to be a straight up. The anti-Pope's going to be a straight up libtard. And people, I think Catholics are going to be like, he didn't do it with all the bishops. Like there's all these. Yeah, what does that mean also? But like everyone has to do it at the same time. Or does what like say the consecration? Yeah. But there's got to be hundreds of thousands of bishops in the world. It'll be at 5 p.m.

Rome time. Yeah. If any bishops are listening. No, but seriously, I have been thinking about that Pope, the Pope, the priest who called into the love line. And that disturbed me deeply. Well, yeah, I don't think I don't think priests should be doing, should be listening to Red Sky. No, definitely not. But that's the other thing. It's like, I don't know if I said this already because again, I'm like really really drunk. But it's like social media made celebrities unglamorous and it made priests fallible because it exposes the humanity of all these people. Yeah, well, they've always they've always been they've always been fallible, but they used to have more integrity and a lot of them still do.

And I would recommend. Well, even if they didn't, they had a veneer of like decorum and self respect. Maybe it was only a veneer, but now that's all been pulled back. Yeah. So yeah, that's my prediction is that like nothing will happen because Francis isn't the Pope. And it also feels like in a very trivial way, very political. I mean, I understand that the Pope as the leader of the Catholic Church has to issue some sort of announcement on the Russia-Ukraine war. Yeah, like it's inevitable. And but it's kind of like, you know, a win-win situation where it's like no harm, no foul, like no matter what he does, it'll be fine, you know, like because it's well, that's like modern Catholicism is kind

of like, you won't go to, you won't go to hell. Like, why would you? Yeah, it's almost like Unitarianism or it's like a libtard theology, but it just, you know, feels kind of, you know, almost like virtue signaling or something that you would have to take up this like contested topic again. Yeah, because like back in the day, you know, the the previous two major consecrations that that extremely autistic article talked about the 1952 and the 1984. No, no, no, no, I really, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, like I was so like scared and nervous to talk about this because I was like, I don't know anything about Catholicism. And yeah, I felt like completely like a fish out of water, but then I was like, wait, yeah,

you're kind of like, I'm liking this, like, I'm assuming this is why people like wordle, which I don't know what that is. And I have no intention of finding out. But it's like an autistic crossword puzzle thing. Yeah, I don't I haven't done it. I have no I have no clue, actually at all what it is. But, but yeah, it seems to enjoy wide popularity. Yeah, remember Sudoku? Yeah, it gives people some yeah, like people like puzzles. Right. And this is like when puzzles are part of, you know, the autism spectrum, that's become increasingly like kind of expansive. It's a very intellectually gratifying sublimation activity. Yeah, it is, it is. And that's kind of the point of Lent is to engage with spiritual

texts. Even if they're weird PDFs that you are looking up about. So like I'm offering a pragmatic not a spiritual reason for why everybody should be religious. And I think it's a pretty good one. Yeah, because it's fun to be autistic. But yeah, when those original consecration took place, it was in the timeframe of the Cold War, when the greatest threat to the West was like the specter of Russian communism. Precisely. But now that a Russian communism has been dead and gone for 40 years or whatever. Yeah, have they consecrated China? It feels like kind of they're taking up the kind of symbolic trappings of like the original Red Scare. But yeah, but like everything else is totally useless, fake and gay. Yeah, they

should consecrate Red Scare the pod. We really need it. Consecrate Red Scare to the immaculate heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary. I'm working on it. I don't know. But there's no Pope, so no one can. That's the problem. That's why how do we I find the crypto Catholics of Nagasaki to be very inspiring because Catholicism was spread to Japan via Portugal in the like 15th or 16th century, then was outlawed in the 17th century. And so a ton of people, a ton of Catholics in Japan had to become crypto Catholics and practice their Catholicism. Like secretly, they had to use they had to kind of like refurnish like Buddhist ephemera to seem to be Catholic and just like throw bail on it. Like it's the Virgin Mary. Yeah,

literally, they used like, yeah. And then when they like live for like 1000 years, yeah, like something like 30,000 people or just like secretly Catholic. And that's how this SSPX person in my DMs was like, sent me they sent me a video of Lefeb, who started SSPX talking that I artistically much. And he said God would never make the church invisible. Of course, God would make the church invisible. Why wouldn't he? And maybe the only real way to be Catholic is to like encrypt your Catholicism in a way that works for you and just in a way that works for you just like because the there are a ton of problems in the in the church and it does seem untenable to just maintain a communion with it out of obedience.

Well, I think there's like the church like capital C and then there's the church, the community of believers. Well, there's the church, the Vatican and there's the church like the supernatural magisterium body that we are actually loyal to, you know. And that's what is more important, in my opinion, to like maintain communion with rather than Francis. But it's nice to know that Catholicism literally spread because women be shopping because all these like seafaring mercantile Portuguese explorers went to Japan so they could bring back knickknacks with their wives. Yeah. Yeah. I think women have me some Wabi Sabi pottery. Women have an important role. Women's role in the Catholic faith is mysterious and important.

And one of the fatal flaws, I think of the set of a cantist position is that they don't really have like none. What? Catholicism runs on nuns. What are they talking about? They're the ones who cover up all the crimes of molestation and then get killed when they whistle blow. Men's are so obedient that they would never break communion with. There are a couple like set of a cantist convents, but basically they don't have nuns and because nuns are obedient as women ought to be. Yeah, you know, we should join a convent. Okay. Not perfectly. I mean, I would like simple lifestyle for a day. Not like, like, we could interrogate some of these yeah themes. We should enter. We should have a nun on the phone. Yeah, we could. Do we

know any nuns? Of course, we don't know any nuns. I mean, we're total degenerate. You could find one through your network. I could find some anti nun. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. This episode is weird. I'm sorry. It's my fault. It's my fault because I can't pay attention to Ukraine. Yeah. So I don't actually know what's going on in the world at all. Yeah, I was like, I was so happy to be away from like the Ukraine timeline and I touched down and there was all this talk of Zelensky banning opposition parties and likening Ukraine to the Holocaust to a room full of Israeli leaders. And it was like the same like assembly line of like hypocrisy, truffle sly. I don't know. I don't want to keep up with it. Yeah. It's

just too it's too incomprehensible. Yeah. And when even more than schismatic. Yeah. And when it is comprehensible, you don't want to know the answers. But we literally the only time is that I even see will like I'm exposed to content is when I'm at the gym and there's like CNN is on and they're showing like bombed out Ukrainian and it gives me like come and see style like epigenetic trauma. I literally I think there's been some epigenetic trauma that's been triggered where I just cannot I just avert my eyes. I like cannot bear witness. I refuse. It brings me way too much anguish. And I mean, there's only so many times you hear people like gloating in the fact that like libtards will take any

opportunity to dismiss anyone as a literal Nazi. But now they're like actually donating to literal Nazis. Like, okay, we get it. Like liberal hypocrisy knows no bounds. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they are Nazis. They are. Well, I read a really good. But what does that even mean article? That's the thing is like liberals have eroded the meaning of Nazi so much. Yeah, by calling us not true that like I don't even know what they mean by that. I mean, I think, I think these guys are literal Nazis like they're they're neo Nazi like white nationalists who want to return to a white ethno state, which more power to them. No, no. But no, I think they want to like they think they're anti Semitic. Yeah, for sure.

Like want to eradicate Jews. Yeah. The greatest irony of all these Nazi battalions is that they're basically supported by two oligarchs, one of whom is Jewish and the other one is Armenian, which is really cute. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's what I mean. Exactly. It's like everybody is broken. Like there are all these posters of Putin and Lukashenko in the East Village that say terrorists. And when the first time I saw when I was literally I was just like, I cannot believe I am seeing a photo of Lukashenko in New York. It makes me feel skits. I know. Like either this is reality is fragmented. And I I don't know how else to process it. Besides become. Yeah, become. Yeah, exactly. I can't I like can't

I don't know what to do with that experience. Yeah, autism is just Catholicism minus the pageantry. So you may as well have the bells and whistles. I'm an aesthetic person. I do I also think beauty is truth, which is why I hate Vatican Catholic.com because it's a really ugly website and there's a lot of really ugly the way that they convey information is ugly. And I just can't I don't think that there is truth in that. I'm sorry. Wait, there's no truth to what? In things that are like ugly. Fundamentally conservative and like a Nazi right now. No, I get it. I mean, beauty in the like, you know, you know when something is true because it's beautiful. That's why Catholicism is so powerful because it is incredibly

beautiful. That's why some of the most profound religious experiences I've had have been in brand where the churches are really, really beautiful. Really have to go to Mexico because the churches there are beautiful. Yeah, they really do it for me. Yeah. And yeah, I was like reading about how much time have we logged first? We're like at an hour 23. So should we know what we're going to wrap it up? Should we talk about the what were you going to say? What were you going to say? You forgot. Fuck, I forgot. What was I was I on about? I wanted to talk about the consecration of Russia. Oh, right, right. I forgot where I was going with this. Should we talk about the don't say gay thing? Oh, yeah, don't say gay, Bill

in Florida, which I thought was about banning thing gay, which I was like really upset about. But then I found out it's about it's like a sort of analogous. It's like an LGBT CRT kind of analogous bill that would prohibit schools per parental discretion. Maybe I couldn't really totally grasp it, but it would prevent school districts in Florida from teaching students about like being trans until they're in like third grade or something basically. And then because you know, they're obsessed about telling the kids to be trans. Yeah. And then like, they afterward it would be difficult for them to to administer sex education if it was deemed like inappropriate. So I'm guessing that's like on the high school level way. I wrote

this down. What? Well, they should talk about being trans in high school, I guess. I mean part of sex that I guess is in the contemporary climate. Well, it's funny because you sent me this op that was written by like a team by like some, you know, David Hogg asked crisis actor teen. And the whole thing like led like this Steve Buschini like Hello, fellow kids meme. Yeah. And he talked about like being so sorry you were homophobically bullied. Yeah. And he talked about like kind of being bullied and targeted homophobically because he was gay at a young age. And I was like, Have you ever considered that maybe you were bullied because you were annoying and not because you were a faggot. You're gay. It sounds like

you're kind of a no at all. Yeah, people people are very accepting of gays in this day and age, even in conservative areas, even in the Vatican to countergird. But nobody likes a teacher's pet no at all. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, well, he said education made me hate myself less. And I was like, if education makes you hate yourself less, you're doing wrong. You're wrong. Not the way I do it. If you're not hating yourself more, you're not learning. You're not learning at all. Yeah. So that's why yeah, because I've been seeing I again, I've been completely checked out. But I have been seeing like people like being like gay, gay, gay. And I was like, what? Like what is going on? And then I was

like, Oh, there that's how they're protesting. Don't say gay by like saying gay all the time. And meanwhile, people be getting mad at us for saying something gay. Whereas we've been saying gay for years in solidarity and solidarity with the press teams with a gay community that we yeah. But like this kid also needs to get his story straight because like one minute he's the victim of homophobia at school. The next minute he's taking to the Senate floor and leading a 500 person walkout at his school. David Hologazz. Our next Zelensky has been born. And he says, okay, he says that like it's literally crazy in one breath. I think Zelensky's hot. I do too. I'm sorry. I said it. He's so hot. I got irrationally

angry because I saw one of his like little green screen performances. By the way, I'm not paying attention, but I do think he's hot. By the way, I'm I actually am totally like on like I have no opinion about whether Zelensky is or isn't Dasha just dropped her phone. I don't need that. No, no, I have no opinion about whether or not he's like in Kiev. I have no way of ascertaining that information. I have no interest in that kind of opting out due to female like just not understanding. Yeah, I'm staying agnostic. But I did get like irrationally angry because he was like wearing one of those mineral dyed like easy ass t shirts while sitting in like an official looking study. You saw those pics of Macron

dressing like Zelensky. No, I didn't. Oh, yeah, he's wearing a good zip up hoodie too. And I was like, this is indecent. This is like mention their ankles. How dare you as the president of a sovereign nation wear a t shirt in an official office setting. And then I was like, wait, but he does look kind of hot. And that color is flattering for him. He look good. And he's probably the one on the binary whereas Putin is definitely a one on the binary and put in the zero. We can say that beyond that. I don't have any commentary on that. No, but this kid in this, I just want to, what's up? No, no, I'm sorry. What did you say? I said, I just want the war to end. Yeah, that's all I want. Mr Zelensky stand

down. If you're listening, either wrap it up or stand up. But this kid like, okay, like in one breath, he's talking about how he's lucky to have had supportive parents. And then the next breath, he's literally like, like implicitly calling other parents unfit because they don't want their kids to learn like gender ideology in school. Yeah, which is so it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I mean, it's well, the op-ed this op-ed, by the way, I really enjoyed every minute that you read New York Times, not for the information, but for the artfulness of it. Yeah, the entertainment. And it was like a really, like really a study in contradictions, which I think like beautifully encapsulated the failure of the American educational system.

Like, it's crazy. I feel like if you turn, did you learn about being gay? Hell no. We learned about the Holocaust in the Underground Railroad. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely didn't learn about gay being gay in school, which like, I definitely don't think I did. But we knew yeah, about being gay anyway, because it's so prevalent in the culture. This is why I put an invaded Ukraine. Because they're teaching kids how to be gay in school. No, but they don't do that. I don't know. But even that, like even the name of the bill in and of itself is such a deflection. Don't say gay because it focuses on this struggle that's already been won in order to avoid the struggle that's really ahead. But like

the original like post stonewall gay rights movement, right? It was about achieving equality through tolerance. Yeah. And we're way past that through kind of the ratification of gay marriage, right? But like this new class of gender warriors, they view that goal as an expression of intolerance, like it's intolerable for them to achieve mere equality. I love it. I just received a text from you. It's just it's a picture of the part I need you to edit out of the podcast. I will do that. I'm going to go through this with a fine tooth comb. Okay, I don't want to offend any Catholics. No, no, listen. I know that I've said a lot of things that will upset some trad cats that probably might listen to the pod. And I don't

care because I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to talk about the truth. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. And a lot of I don't like kind of the sceniness either of the, of the, of the, of trad Catholicism of like, it seems, I was talking to a trad Catholic friend of mine and Cincinnati who's like a convert who is very involved in like his parish and knows a lot of young Catholics in Cincinnati. And like, there's a very burgeoning kind of like scene of like obviously probably primarily white people who are like, yeah, doing this trad Catholic LARP as a lifestyle thing. And I am not casting as aspersions, like however you need to have whatever works burgers, not casting aspergers, though, yes. But, but yeah, I know that like,

they don't want to hear a lot of what I have to say, but I don't care because I'm not here to make friends. That's all. Should we wrap? Yeah, yeah, no, we can, we can wrap it up. I'm sorry that the gender discourse is like my personal Catholicism. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm, I'm, I'm ready. Okay, yeah, you're good. Yeah, I would, I would love to have a cigarette. Yes. Okay, okay. Okay. See you in hell. See you in hell, especially to post Vatican II Catholics and the and the decoy sister, I get that right. The Vatican II counter church and the decoy sister, Lucia, who might may or may not exist, fine.