Reddit Stories - Betrayed My Wife Hosted My Best Friend POST-DATE Night, Engaging In A LATE-NIGHT ENCOUNTER Until 3am -
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Spouse asked my closest companion to join us after our evening out and stayed awake until 3 a.m. chatting with him.
She became upset with me when I expressed my discontent.
Now he asserts they were married in past lives.
My wife and I generally have a great relationship.
Last night, however, I learned from my wife that she has been on a sex strike for most of the last month
due to some comments I made following our last date night, which was about a month ago.
As background, I arrange a date night each month for the two of us.
I plan a dinner somewhere nice, arrange a babysitter, feed our three kids dinner,
and otherwise handle all of the logistics so that all she has to do is show up.
Typically, we will grab drinks somewhere after dinner, sometimes meeting up with friends for the
drinks portion, and other times going just the two of us.
Earlier this month, I planned an evening out and we had a fantastic dinner together.
After dinner, I proposed that we go to a nearby wine bar, but my wife, who had been texting
with the wife of a couple we are close friends with, asked if we could go meet up with them
for drinks instead.
I was fine with that, so we headed towards a nearby bar that they had proposed.
However, the other couple's dinner ran later than ours, and by the time it ended, the wife was
tired and decided she wanted to go to bed. As such, her husband ended up taking her home and then
joining us at the local bar they had proposed. Around 11.45 we had to leave to relieve our babysitter.
My wife was having fun and didn't want the evening to end, so she invited our friend over for another
drink. I told her I was fine with that, but that I was hoping to be in bed by 1 a.m.
As background, I do the morning shift with our three kids every day and they get up early.
My wife promised that we be in bed by then.
Our friend came over, we opened a bottle of wine, put on some music, and we're all having a good time.
One o'clock comes around and he gets up to go, but my wife tells us we can't leave, as she is vicing.
I stick around for another ten minutes or so and then decide to call it, as I was getting pretty tired.
My wife tells me she will be up in another 10 minutes.
I get ready for bed, which takes about that long, and don't hear her coming, so I go to bed.
Around 3 o'clock, I get woken up by her coming into our bedroom.
She was drunk at this point and made a lot of noise.
I'm now wide awake, and if that happens, it usually takes me a while to go back to sleep.
In this case, it took me until around 5 o'clock, which was fun when the kids woke up at 6.5.2
3-0. Anyways, at this point, since I'm now wide awake, I ask her if she'd want to have sex,
probably not the most romantic, I know. She declines, as she is tired and wants to go to sleep.
Fair enough, I don't push the issue, and then she immediately falls asleep. However, I can't
sleep now due to being woken up, and sit there in stew for a few hours, mostly frustrated at
being woken up but also annoyed at how the evening went overall. My first mistake was sending her a
text, while she is asleep, saying that her actions that evening were hurtful and that it felt like
I planned this nice evening. Only for her to end up spending the later part of it with someone else,
and not like that, I am 100% confident they were just listening to music and chatting.
The next morning, she came downstairs apologetic. However, I made the mistake of mentioning that her actions
made me not really want to plan these extravagant date nights anymore, as she had broken her promise
about going to bed at a reasonable hour and then ruin my sleep, not the first time this has
happened on a date night.
Then, and this is where I may be the asshole, I added that this was at least the fourth date
night in a row where the night had ended with us not having sex, and that in my mind,
a good date night ends in sex.
I also added that this one was particularly offensive because it felt like she abandoned
me at the end of the night. These comments really upset her, and she said they made her feel
like I only appreciate her for sex. She added that date nights should be about having fun and
enjoying her company, and that I should assume we won't have sex on date nights. Honestly, I have
some sympathy for her perspective about enjoying each other's company being the most important
part of a date night, but I also don't think it is unreasonable to feel a little let down after
planning a romantic evening, especially since it had become a pattern.
And particularly where she effectively choose to do something else rather than have sex with me.
So Reddit, what do we think?
Ida.
Additional info, well, this surprisingly took off.
A few responses to commonly asked questions.
One, why involve friends on date night?
Because she asked, it wasn't what I had planned, but I do try to make her happy.
2. How often do we normally have sex?
2 to 3 times a week, which is honestly pretty good for having 3 young children, although the distribution tends to be a little uneven, i.e. we might have it 5 times 1 week and then only once the next.
I also try to be a generous partner, and almost always try to get her off first, unless she just asks for a quickie.
3. How did I not notice the sex strike that was going on for almost a month?
I intentionally took a week off from initiating in an effort to show I wasn't just about sex,
and then I caught a severe case of COVID at the end of that week, and then she got her period,
and then we went on a trip, where sex is hard with small kids.
So even if she hadn't been intentionally withholding, there wouldn't really have been an opportunity for it.
Just a really unfortunate series of events that happened one after the other.
We also did slip in a couple of sessions in there where she initiated, in what she called moment,
of weakness. Frankly, we both like sex, but she is sometimes willing to hurt slash
penalize herself to prove a point. Also, we've had four or five stretches in the past where we
have gone many months without sex due to childbirth, major surgery, depression. I do
truly care for my wife, and I'm willing to play the long game. Four, why are you not
worried about your wife being with a male friend late at night? We're very close to this couple,
and they are probably over at our house at least once a week.
The husband in particular is close friends with both me and my wife.
His wife works very early in the morning, so she pretty much always goes to bed very early.
As such, he is often left alone at night, and he frequently ends up at our place,
where we play drink, play board games or cards, listen to music, play guitars, etc.
It is not at all unusual for him to come over and stay late at our place,
as my wife and I stay up much later than his wife.
It was only weird and frustrating,
because my wife invited him over on a date night.
Our friend is also a really solid guy,
he's probably the safest person I could think of to hang out with my wife who is a guy.
I know the optics aren't great and that if I were a third party
I'd probably think something shady is going on,
just knowing the people involved,
it's not something I am concerned about.
I'm confident our friend intended to come over for just a drink, he did in fact try to leave,
and he had even called an Uber, my wife grabbed his phone and cancelled it.
And I do think they did just lose track of time.
We had a brief power outage the day before so our living room clock was not working.
Five, what happened on the other three dates?
On one, we had met up with a large group of friends at a bar after dinner and we were all having fun.
Unfortunately, one of us had to relieve the babysitter.
I kindly offered to go home and let her stay out with the crew, many of our friends stay out late,
most have family or a full-time nanny that can do overnights.
She ended up staying out until after 3 o'clock and was blackout when she got back,
so I helped her get into bed and called it a night.
On another, we got into an argument over something stupid at dinner and it killed the mood.
On the third, she just was very tired by the time we got home and wanted to go to sleep,
which is totally valid, I didn't complain or push it.
This wasn't really a pattern of any specific behavior on her part.
I was more just frustrated that circumstances seemed to always conspire to prevent the ideal date
night from occurring, and this one being foiled was definitely her fault.
6. Why did your wife stay up so late?
My wife is a bit of a night owl.
Her ideal schedule is probably to stay up until 12 or 1 and then sleep in until 9.
And on the weekend when she is having fun, she would easily stay up until 2 or 3.
This is something that we have argued about in the past, as once she gets going she doesn't like to stop, which she admits isn't the best, which always leaves me needing to be the responsible one.
I've told her in the past that I'd gladly stay up until 3 o'clock with her if she agrees to do the morning shift the next day, but she has always declined on the basis of that not being enough sleep.
7. How is your division of labor? I work a high pay, long hours job, and my wife is a SOM.
When I'm at work I'm obviously gone and she takes care of the kids. When I'm not working, I probably do 60% of the household labor and she does 40%
I try to do the heavy lifting with the kids when I'm home because taking care of three young kids is exhausting, and I know she appreciates the break.
In particular, I do the morning shift, which we both view as the worst one.
She is definitely appreciative of all the household labor I do, and has stated she recognizes that I do more than any of our male friends.
8. Is your wife a good mom? She's a fantastic mom, really, truly fantastic.
She puts in a ton of effort making our kids' lives fun and full of whimsy.
She's all their friend's favorite mom since she's fun and cares about them.
She goes 100% when taking care of the kids, which I think is why she sometimes parties perhaps too late and doesn't want the night to end, as taking care of kids really is draining, especially if you go max effort.
9. How is your relationship otherwise?
We both do thoughtful things for one another.
I make her coffee every morning and leave a note for her next to the mug.
She helps my mom with tech support, which is a true act of love.
I did it for years and hated it.
I buy her flowers about once a week and will randomly surprise her with small gifts.
She will buy me less frequent, but larger and more thoughtful, gifts.
If you take sex out of the equation, the relationship is great,
and until a few weeks ago I would have told you that was great too.
10. Are you an unreliable narrator? I hope not. I think if you ask my wife what happened,
she would agree with essentially everything I've said. I think she would probably just add some
additional background information. The big one being that we have had arguments about sex in the
past. We had a bad argument about nine months ago that led to about a month-long hiatus after I
complained to her that we never had sex while on vacation, and we probably take 10 or so trips a
year, although many of them are just for long weekends. Her view was that we usually have kids in a
room directly adjacent to us, and often other adults, since we typically do an Airbnb with friends
or go to a friend's vacation home, and that she would be mortified if our kids or friends hurt us.
It's honestly a valid point, and she convinced me of it. I stopped trying on vacation unless
she initiates, which she still does periodically, but she did feel that I was ungrateful in
light of all the normal sex we were having, and that she needed to reset expectations so that sex
was special rather than a usual occurrence. I get the sense that her current sex strike is
essentially the same thing. 11. Is this fake? Unfortunately, no. I'm very much a real human.
Beep boop, beep boop. We had a great discussion last night, and some great sex, and are fully reconciled.
I apologized for making her feel like I was primarily valuing her for providing sex.
It's not true, but my comments made her feel that way, and not appreciating how much sex we were
already having.
She apologized for ruining the last date night.
She spoke to her sister about it yesterday and her sister told her inviting someone else over
on your date night was really stupid.
So in the future, she said she wants date nights to be just the two of us.
We can do meetups with others on other days.
This was what I was going to ask for but she beat me to it.
I also promise not to complain about sex, even where, like in this case, it was not the primary
complaint but part of a larger complaint and not to send grumpy texts while she is sleeping
and instead just talk to her in the morning.
So communication wins again.
Update 1, April 26, 2024.
Well, I.
posted about a month ago about how I was upset my wife invited our friends back over to our
house at the end of a date night, and she and the husband ended up hanging out until 3 a.m.
after I went to bed at 1 o'clock. A lot of people suggested they were having an affair,
and that I was blind to not see it. I swore and swore there was no way, I trust both of them,
etc. Turns out, Reddit was right. I was unpacking the car and my wife had left her phone in there,
and when I picked it up a text from our friend flashed across saying how he wanted to kiss her
and asking her to tell me she needed a night out and should go out to the bar with him.
I know it's an invasion of privacy, but we know one another's passcodes, so I opened her phone
and checked their text chain. She had been deleting his messages, but they were still in the deleted
messages folder, and it wasn't great. They've been going on dates during the day when I'm at work,
and he has said very suggestive things to her. I confronted my
wife about it and she claimed it was purely an emotional affair, that she knew he loved her,
and enjoyed the attention, and that she had been dealing with severe depression, which is true,
and it was nice to have someone to talk to who wasn't me. That she still loved me, it was just
very flattering to have the attention. I don't know whether that is all true or not,
but I honestly do think she is telling the truth. She pretty much argued it wasn't that big of a deal
because they didn't do anything physical outside of him kissing her once, and in her defense the suggestive texts all came from him.
So I don't know where we will end up, just reality-shattering because I would have never thought either would betray me like this.
Update 2, April 30, 2024.
I had a true heart-to-heart with my wife two days after I learned of the emotional affair, and we are surprisingly in a really good place now.
She apologized profusely, and her description and timeline of events is not as bad as I had feared.
It is also consistent with what my former friend, will call him Rick, told me when I interrogated him,
and I asked him first, before my wife would have really had a chance to collaborate on a story
in the event she wanted to do so.
It is also consistent with what my wife's sister has told me, she views me like a brother
and is a true ally.
As backstory, Rick and his wife have been going through marital issues for quite some time.
We were aware of this.
About six months ago, things really went into a tailspin, and he started talking to my wife
almost as a therapist.
I know this sounds weird, but my wife is really good at listening to people's troubles and
providing insight.
She does this for a bunch of friends, admittedly essentially all women.
It started out like once a week or so, and gradually,
increased from there. By a couple of months ago, they were talking regularly, i.e. several times a week,
but still only covering totally PC topics. My wife's sister actually confronted my wife and warned her
that she thought Rick had fallen for her and that she needed to be careful. My wife was convinced
that they were just good friends. The night of the infamous date night was actually still in this
period, my wife admitted that the optics looked bad, but she really was just having a good time,
and was frankly pretty drunk and not thinking clearly. She did say, though, that after that
night she realized that he might have feelings for her, and that in retrospect it was pretty
obvious. She felt bad about the date night fiasco, and has been much better in that regard,
and she also reduced her alcohol consumption. About six weeks ago, we went on a ski trip with
five other families, including Rick and his wife. It was a horrible trip for him, and he and his
wife fought a lot. One of the nights, he got pretty drunk and asked my wife to meet him at the bar
at our hotel, since he needed to talk. While there, he told her that he loved her and wished that
he had married her rather than his wife. My wife just told him I'm sorry. I had been putting
the kids to bed when this went down and came down and inadvertently interrupted them right after they
said this. I do remember some weird vibes in retrospect. My wife admitted she should have told me
right then and there, but that she didn't want to blow up the trip for the whole friend group,
as if she told me she was worried that I might make a scene. He then didn't say anything problematic
for another week or two, and she chalked it up to him just being really drunk and really
sad, and hoped things could just go back to normal. Unfortunately, Rick's marriage took a turn for the
worse about a month ago, and it seems pretty clear that they are getting divorced.
My wife, who suffers from severe depression, also went into a depressive period around this time,
in large part do some familial issues. This was timed very poorly, as I recently launched a
new division at my company and have been working 60-hour week for the last three months or so.
Both Rick and my wife felt isolated and lonely, and Rick started calling my wife virtually every day.
They also started grabbing lunch once or twice a week, I guess he would meet her for lunch on his lunch break.
The vast majority of their interaction was them talking about life, but he started saying inappropriate things in person like you're the most beautiful woman I know or you're gorgeous.
He also started drinking heavily, and he would send suggestive texts when drinking, which my wife claims she would just ignore.
The time he kissed her I was actually home, the three of us had been hanging out and I went.
to use the restroom. I asked her why she didn't tell me or shut things down, and she admitted
it was a mixture of not wanting to blow up our friend group plus her enjoying the attention and
compliments, even if she had no interest in a guy. She chuckled a little bit when I asked if
she had slept with him, for reference, R is probably 150 plus pounds overweight, which is one of
the major strains in his marriage, whereas my wife is a true 10-10ths. Basically, she was depressed,
needed someone to talk to, and since I was so busy with work, she found that emotional support
elsewhere. She admits that it was really wrong, and has agreed to take a bunch of actions to
prevent this in the future. For me, I still struggle with why she would do some of this, for example
if he texts that you should come over and join him in the shower, and you respond, why don't we do a
lunch date instead? For my view that is pouring gasoline on a fire, by showing you still want to meet with
whereas she thought she was steering things away from problematic situations.
Something shady can't happen in a public setting.
She said he came by the house a couple of times during the day,
including once when our son was home with her,
but that she really tried to steer things to public settings
once she knew he loved her.
It also does hurt a bit that in one of the texts are asked
if they could do a lunch date and she says no, my husband, me,
is working from home today with a sad face.
But we're going to make it work.
We are going to do couples therapy and she wants to do individual therapy,
and she also started working part-time to keep her busy on something else.
We can't go fully non-contact with our, but now all communication has to include me.
I am also going to work on being more emotionally present, even when working a ton.
And I told her that if she is having a depressive episode and needs to talk to someone,
she can always call me, her mental well-being is more important than my work, she was afraid to call
during the day since I am very busy and would call her instead. I also promise to work on
being happier and more positive, I am usually a very cheerful person, which is something she loved
about me, but I had been pretty grumpy and miserable over the last few months due to my job
being crazy. So a little blame does rest with me, I'm certainly not perfect, although I'd never
cheat on my partner. I know most of you will probably roll your eyes and say I'm being a pushover,
but none of you know how amazing my wife is. She has a magnetic personality and is the life of a party.
She is also one of the brilliant people I have ever met. She's a great mom and my best friend.
And finally, she's a bombshell, when she is dolled up, most heads turn when she enters a room.
If you've ever seen wedding crashers, she is, in both.
personality in appearance, eerily similar to Isla Fisher's character, although she is better
looking than Isla.
I honestly can't blame R for falling for her, but I can blame him and call him a piece of
shit for acting on it.
Dumb?
Maybe.
But my wife is too amazing to let go over this without a fight, especially when she seems
committed to fixing things and actually apologetic, including for getting defensive the night
I discovered it.
I'll do an update in a few months.
Hopefully things will be positive.
Update 3, August 15th, 2024.
As a recap, I made an IDA post about me being upset at my wife inviting for my best friend over on a date night earlier this year,
a majority of the responders replied that they were likely having an affair,
I defended my wife and former best friend.
And then a month later I discovered Reddit was right, and they were indeed having an affair,
albeit an emotional one.
After my last few posts gained some traction, I promise to provide an update in a few months.
The last few months have been a bit of a roller coaster, but I'm happy to report that my wife
and I are in a really good place at the moment and fully reconciled.
There have been some wild moments though since Discovery Day.
1.
Going non-contact with my former best friend, Rick, only to have him call my wife several
months later, in the middle of a game night with friends, which was awkward, sobbing in his car and
threatening to kill himself. I told her I was fine if she were to talk to him that night,
since we were legitimately concerned he might off himself, and although, fuck him, he was my
former best friend and I don't want him to die, but they spoke for like two hours that night
and then he started texting her constantly, and called like five times the next day, forcing us to go
non-contact with him again. Two, running into Rick at a group event and him acting incredibly
emo and moody, he sat in a corner and drank an entire bottle of whiskey out of an oversized
Yeti. Three, Rick approaching me at said event and saying that he was on the verge of telling
everyone about the affair because he just wants to burn everything down, my wife and I were
able to convince him not to do so. Four, learning that Rick had asked my wife to leave me, she said no,
and he had told her he would wait however long she needed, even 15 years, so that they could be together.
5. Rick becoming obsessed with my wife's sister, who is very similar to my wife. They now go out for
drinks several times a week and talk daily. My wife is convinced he is now in love with her.
Awkwardly, my sister-in-law is separated but still lives with her soon-to-be ex-husband.
6. Rick is still married, but divorce is seemingly imminent. In all this chaos, however,
my wife and I have been doing very well. The shock of the affair forced us to work through our issues
and we now communicate about as well as one could hope for, and have solved for most of the issues
that led her to look outside our marriage for emotional support. I'd love to be able to go back in time
and prevent the affair, and I don't know if I'll trust anyone fully anymore, but in many ways it
improved our relationship, which is a very strange thing to say.
Comments where Ope has replied.
Away understanding 34.
I am concerned that Rick doesn't actually like your sill and that he's just using her to stay
close to your wife.
He is sick and I wouldn't put anything past him.
Oop, it's possible.
They were friends before all of this though.
The challenge is that his daughter is my daughter's best friend and our social circle includes
Rick. There's not really a great way to completely remove him from our lives. Sill does know what
Rick did. She actually called it months ago, before my wife knew Rick was into her my sill pulled my wife
aside and told her Rick was going to be trouble. My wife argued he was just a good friend and would
never do anything inappropriate. My Sill was skeptical and right. I'm actually very thankful for
my Sill, she's a good friend to me, and I think is partly due to
doing this to draw his attention away from my wife.
Oop on his wife and himself stepping back away from Rick.
O'em, oh, my wife and I are both people-pleasers.
It is what led to all of this.
I don't think my wife wants to be around Rick anymore.
She has vocalized a bunch of times lately that she is pretty sick of his shit and wishes
he would just go away.
She was truthfully annoyed when I told her to pick up the phone when Rick was having his
mental health episode.
But he had texted me saying that he was in a bad spot and needed to talk to someone and I am
confident that is the truth.
My wife said he spent much of the call crying in his car.
I think the posters are correct in the sense that I should have referred him to 911 or been the one
to talk to him, rather than my wife, but his mental health is really poor right now.
I've known him for a long time and his actions the last six months or so have been extremely
out of character, which makes me think he's having a significant mental health crisis and probably
needs to be on medication. Update 4, August 21, 2024. This is part 5 of the ongoing circus that is my
personal life. In my last post, a lot of you expressed concern, surprise, or anger that my SIL was now
meeting up with Rick. Those are all probably valid reactions to this news. Yesterday, I decided that we should
figure out what is going on between the two of them, and my wife and I reached out to
Sill. I'm glad we did, because things just keep getting weirder and weirder.
Rick and Sill have met up five or six times, either for coffee or drinks. The most recent
and likely final meetup was actually at Rick's house one evening. His wife and daughter were
out of town visiting family, Rick had to work and couldn't go, and he had the place to himself,
so he invited Sil over for a drink.
While hanging out, he told Sil that he believes he was married both to my wife and to Sil in prior lives,
and that he is glad to have been reunited with them.
He then told Sil that she was beautiful and put his hand on the side of her face,
as one might do to one's partner, in my view it is a fairly intimate act.
This perhaps unsurprisingly freaked Sil out.
To give her credit, she told Rick that he was being highly inappropriate,
that he needed to stop, and that he couldn't keep taking someone trying to be a friend to him
as showing interest in him. She then scolded him for doing this first to my wife and then to her.
It's the sort of thing I wish my wife had told him when he started being inappropriate with her.
From what I understand, she then left. She has been ghosting him since then.
Rick has apparently frantically texted her dozens and dozens of times.
Sil emphasized to us that she had no romantic interest in Rick and was just trying to be a friend to him.
It's all just odd to me.
I've known Rick for years and I feel like the current Rick is a stranger.
It makes me wonder if I ever actually knew the real Rick, I guess not.
Comments where OP has replied.
Mental Woodpecker 300
This makes me wonder if Rick has something medical going on.
We've seen it a few times on.
on here that sudden erratic personality changes turn out to be some kind of mental break or even
a developing tumor.
Oop, I legitimately do think there is a decent possibility of this.
You Excel 411, definitely keep Sill away from Rick.
He seems very unstable.
From reading your other posts, there's something that I'm struggling to understand and that's
why Rick's wife isn't told about what's happening.
I don't know about you, but it feels incredibly selfish to keep this from you.
her. It makes you just as much an accomplice in the affair. I'm all for you and your wife trying
to fix your marriage, but it's really hard trying to be sympathetic with your situation when
there's hypocritical instances like this. Hoop, it's a fair point. Part of me wishes I had told her
when I originally discovered everything. My wife talked me out of it. Rick's daughter is my
daughter's best friend, and if Rick's wife knew it would most likely destroy that friendship.
There's also a good chance my wife would get kicked out of the larger friend group,
which would mean my kids would to a large extent also lose access to their closest friends.
I care about my kids immensely, and don't want that to happen to them, since it would be pretty devastating.
But there are definitely days where I wake up and think I should just say fuck it and tell her.
You excel 4-11, so the lesser of two evils.
I understand, don't necessarily agree, but understand.
end. I pray things work out. I've seen people leave the damaged band-aid on instead of taking it off,
only for the cut to become infected. Most truths have a way of coming out and more often than not,
the damage is more severe the longer a secret is kept. All the best op-oop. If they had slept
together I would have definitely told Rick's wife. I'm fairly confident, however, that they did not.
and so I think I'd suffer myself if I knew that doing the just thing then caused a bunch of harm to my kids.
