Reddit Stories - Child PREVENTED me FOLLOWING the split without hearing my PERSPECTIVE reached out to

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #parenting #familydrama #communication #boundaries #relationships  Summary: A child prevented me from following through with a split, refusing to hear my perspective. ...This situation escalated as I reached out for clarity and understanding, but the lack of communication created further tension. I felt sidelined and unable to express my feelings about the family dynamics involved.  Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, family, relationships, communication, parenting, conflict, emotions, perspectives, boundaries, drama, support, understanding, advice, issues, split, tensionBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6816713/support.This episode includes AI-generated content.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Episode with two stories, first part. I hope you enjoy this story. Child prevented me following the split without hearing my perspective reached out to me now, eight years later, to claim my legacy. I, a 54-year-old man, ended my marriage from my former partner. Wife, 48F, 8 years ago and my daughter, 28F, cut all contact with me and chose her mother's side without even asking me how I felt. Even though my divorce was nearer, a decade ago, it has taken a lot of time for me to accept how things turned out to be and make peace with my life. This has been partly because my ex-wife tried to completely destroy my reputation, but mostly because I really loved my daughter, and being completely
Starting point is 00:00:44 shut out from her life was harder than anything. As she was an adult at the time, there was no way for me to be in her life unless she wanted me to be, and she seemed sure of her decision to pick her mother over me. I don't have any family of my own except my mom who has but Alzheimer's, so the whole ordeal was definitely one of the worst things that has ever happened to me. I tried to contact my daughter several times after the divorce, but she was dead set on being on her mom's side and didn't even try to hear my side of the story. At one point my ex reached out to me and sued me for harassment if I didn't leave my daughter alone. That spelled things out for me and I stopped contacting her. I've spent the last eight years taking care of my mom and
Starting point is 00:01:26 focusing on my career. I've had a few casual relationships here and there, but I feel like I can't fully trust another person after my divorce. Anyway, that has been my life for nearly a decade. Sorry if I seem like a downer. The reason I'm writing this post is because my daughter recently reached out to me after all this time. I was over the moon and thought that she had finally come to her senses and understood that the divorce was not just my, it was also comforting in particular because my mother recently passed away and I've been dealing with that grief by myself and was craving some comfort and family. So my daughter reached out to me a few months after my mother passed away. I got a call from a number I didn't recognize and I picked up to hear a woman's voice on the other side.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I didn't know it was my daughter and didn't even recognize her voice because it had been that long since we spoke and I was quite shocked when she introduced herself. She said that she saw on Facebook that her grandma passed away and wanted to check up on me. I was taken aback. I didn't even know that she kept tabs on me online and thought that was sweet of her. I thanked her for calling and said that I was doing all right and told her that I missed her. We talked for a bit and she said that if I want to meet and actually catch up in person instead of the phone she would like that. I was extremely happy and agreed immediately. We agreed to meet at my house over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I was really excited about meeting her after all these years so I am writing this post. to share my excitement with anyone who might be reading. I hope we can rebuild our relationship again or at least get to know each other. My daughter came over to have dinner with me because I wanted to cook for her. I was nervous and excited. When I first opened the door I absolutely didn't recognize her because it's been nearly a decade since I last saw her and she was just a little girl back then. We started talking and even though it was a little awkward at first,
Starting point is 00:03:21 I think we both opened up after a while. She told me about her life and what she does for work and I told her about my life. After dinner, we finally acknowledged the elephant in the room. I asked her why she never bothered to listen to my side of the story during the divorce and chose her mom by default. I mean I admitted that her mother was more present as a parent because she was a stay-at-home mom and back than I worked in construction and worked long hours, but I always tried my best to take out as much time as I possibly could for my daughter.
Starting point is 00:03:51 My daughter then said that she regrets how things turned out and that she was too young to think things through and got manipulated by how her mom made things sound. Basically, my ex-wife painted me as the ultimate bad guy who didn't care about anyone except himself and since she never got to hear my side of the story, she never questioned whatever her mom said. We talked a bit more about this and things were going well until she finally revealed why she was there. We had been talking for hours at that point when I asked her what made her reach out to
Starting point is 00:04:21 to me after all these years. She looked a little uncomfortable and I told her that she could be honest with me. Well, then she said that she really had been keeping tabs on me through Facebook and when she found out that her grandmother had died, she thought lawyers would contact her about her inheritance, and when no one did, she thought she should reach out to me personally. She said that she wanted to give me some time and space to grieve, but she had recently gotten engaged and could really use some money to help out with the wedding expenses. It felt like getting punched in the gut, honestly. I thought that after all these years my prayers were answered and I could have a family again,
Starting point is 00:04:59 but it turns out she never cared for me in the first place and all this was a way for her to get her inheritance. The funniest thing is that it's not even her inheritance, legally it's all mine. And if only she wasn't such a terrible daughter to me, she would definitely end up with most, if not all, of it. I don't care about money, I never have honestly. I live in a house of my own, don't have any expensive hobbies, and mostly buy my clothes from Target. Even if the inheritance wasn't in question in the first place, I wouldn't have minded helping out with her wedding at all if she had reached out nicely instead of trying to take advantage of me and only caring about the inheritance. All of this was going through my head at the same time. I somehow maintained my composure and asked her if that was all she wanted.
Starting point is 00:05:45 She got very defensive and said that the inheritance comes second and her actual goal was to connect with me and she would never forgive herself for not reaching out while her grandmother was alive. She said that she had wanted to reach out for years but never got the courage to actually do it because she thought I would never forgive her for kicking me out without an explanation and that she was also manipulated by her mom. But I could see from the panicked look on her face that she was just trying to smooth things out so I could forgive her and I wondered if she was just after the money. I asked her how she knew she had an inheritance and she said that a couple of years before the divorce she was visiting my late mother and she told her that she wanted her to inherit everything left by my father, who passed away years ago, as she was the only grandchild in the family. I don't have any siblings and at that point my marriage was fine so I understand why my mother might have said that to my daughter. I mean if the divorce never happened or my daughter didn't abandon me for years after the divorce, the money would have been hers as I've already mentioned. But the thought of her only caring about the money and giving me false hope was absolutely crushing. I was devastated but did my best not to let her know.
Starting point is 00:06:55 At that moment I thought the only way of testing my daughter's intentions would be to see how she would react if I told her there was no money to inherit. I asked her how much she expected from the inheritance and she made quite a decent guess. I could tell that some planning went into this whole thing. I then told her that I'm sorry to disappoint her but that her grandmeline was. actually left everything to me years ago and I plan on using that money to start a business so I couldn't help her out. I offered to help out for her wedding with my own money by offering a few grand for wedding expenses. The disappointment on her face proved my worst fears. She said that she appreciated my offer but as the only grandchild, she deserves at least some of the inheritance because
Starting point is 00:07:36 it's her grandma's money that she was offered. I told her that I wished I could help her but my decision was final and there was nothing I could do for her if she wasn't happy with the money I was offering. She went completely red in the face and started getting visibly angry. She told me again to reconsider my decision, but I reiterated that I was going to stick to what seemed right to me. And that's when she showed her true colors and said something that confirmed all my doubts regarding her true intentions. She told me that she should have known that I'll always be the selfish a-hole her mom said I was and she's glad I'm alone in life. I looked at her with barely concealed disgust.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Her words were hurtful, but at that point, I knew what to expect. I just didn't expect her to get that brutally honest that fast, that's all. She started to say something else, but I stopped her before she could speak. I told her that I should have known she was her mother's daughter and that the only reason she would reach out to anyone was to ask for a favor. I also told her that using the fact that I was grieving for my mother to try and manipulate me was disgusting, even for a person like her. She tried to say something at that point, but I just laughed in her face and said that if only she had not blocked me all those years ago,
Starting point is 00:08:51 she would have gotten my texts about her grandmother and would have probably gotten most, if not all of the inheritance. That sentence had the effect I wanted. She looked utterly baffled and asked me what I meant. I told her to unblock me on her old number so I could resend her all the texts that could never get delivered. Well, she did. She did. She did. She did. She did. She did. She did. She did. She was, she I forwarded all the texts where I begged her to hear me out and even let her know that her grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer and I wanted them to meet before she forgot about her only grandchild completely. This was completely true, as at the beginning of her illness my mom did often mention my daughter and asked to see her. I remember how it broke my heart to not be able to fulfill that wish. And now this ungrateful, cruel child had the audacity to ask for inheritance.
Starting point is 00:09:39 To my daughter's credit, I will admit that she was. looked ashamed after reading all of those messages. She apologized to me but said that looking at these messages it was clear that her grandma would want her to have her share of the inheritance and it isn't fair for me to punish her like this. She said that she was young and didn't know any better during the divorce or else she would have handled things definitely. She also told me that she genuinely wants to rebuild our relationship and if I choose to be selfish now she won't feel comfortable in continuing our relationship. I told her that if money is what makes or breaks it for her, then maybe it's better if we don't have a relationship at all. I wanted to
Starting point is 00:10:17 believe her when she said all that crap about rebuilding our relationship. I truly did, but at that point, I couldn't. I told her that I would consider giving our relationship another chance, but the inheritance was out of the question. She looked at me with pure hatred and left my house. I didn't try to stop her at all. Since then I've spoken to a few of my friends. Most of them agree that I did the right thing. But one of my closest friends said that since I don't really care about the money, I should just forget about it and let my daughter have at least some of it if it meant having family in my life. I don't agree with this, but ever since he said it, I can't get it out of my head. Should I give my daughter part of my inheritance? Update one,
Starting point is 00:11:01 Hi there, this post got a lot more responses than I thought it would. Thanks for your advice and opinions, it gave me the perspective I needed. I guess I'll start by answering the most common question, what happened during my divorce? I haven't spoken about it for years, but I guess it can't hurt anymore. So my wife and I were married for 23 years. You'd think after all those years she wouldn't be able to stab me in the back, but she did. I really don't want to get into the details, but I found out that she was cheating on me with multiple men. Apparently, it had been going on for years before I finally found out. When I found out I was completely devastated. I didn't know how to confront her so I started drinking heavily and sleeping around as well.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I nearly destroyed my life. I fought a lot with her and I guessed that and the drinking made it really easy for her to manipulate my daughter into taking her side. After nearly a year of living like that and being separated, we finally confronted each other and got divorced. My ex-wife used be a journalist at the time and is kind of a local celebrity. She used her influence to try to destroy my reputation and was nearly successful. After the divorce, it took me a lot of time to quit drinking and get back to my normal life. As I've said already, my daughter completely abandoning me did not help to say the least. I'll admit that when I found out about my ex's affairs, I kind of went off the rails and wasn't present as a parent for my daughter. Even during the time,
Starting point is 00:12:36 I was separated and for a year or so after the divorce, I pretty much always kept to myself and wasn't there for my daughter. But once I stopped drinking and got my life back together, the first thing I did was to reach out to her and apologize. But she refused to listen to me and blocked me everywhere. I thought giving her time would work and she would eventually come around, but here we are eight years later and our relationship has only gotten worse with time. Now the other big question about my mom's inheritance. Well, technically, the money belonged to my father. My grandparents were both doctors and had brought property all around the city during their careers.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Most of it was rented out and ended up bringing a lot of money. Dad passed away when I was 21 and left everything to mom. All of it remained in her name during my marriage and for a few years after my divorce while her health was still right. After mom passed away, I received everything as her sole heir. My wife didn't receive anything in the divorce except alimony till she got remarried a few years ago because my mom owned everything at the time. So the way things stand, my daughter never even got close to owning anything. She knew, of course, that her grandma was a landlady and owned a couple of Airbnbs, but I never touched any of that money because the money I made for my old construction business was more than enough to live comfortably. I hope I've answered all your questions.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Also, my daughter hasn't reached out to me after that night and I don't think she will, to be honest. I think she made it pretty clear that she only put up this whole show for the inheritance and now that it's out of question, I don't expect to see her around anymore. I'd be lying if I said I am not at all upset about it, but at this point, I know not to expect too much out of people, no matter who they are. So that's that I guess. Thanks to all of you for sending support. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I also think it's maybe time for me to put myself out there and maybe get back into dating and find companionship instead of expecting ghosts from my past to come around. Update 2. It's been quite a week, guys. I thought that would be my last and only update, but I guess life had other plans. Anyway, I had just gotten back from work and was considering going out with a couple of buddies when the doorbell rang. I wasn't expecting anyone but opened the door and there she was. My worst nightmare. She has changed her hair and lost some weight so it took me a couple of seconds to recognize her, but it's hard to forget someone you were together with for decades, ha.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Seeing her was quite a shock, to say the least. I didn't know what to say, so I just stood there awkwardly. She then asked me if I had a moment to talk about some stuff. I was hesitant but didn't want her to stand there at my door so I just didn't. invited her in. It was really awkward, as you guys can probably imagine. We made small talk about this and that and then she said that she understood that this was a little strange but there were something she needed to tell me. I asked her to go on and she said that our daughter reached out to her and told her about the inheritance. I think I kind of saw that coming. I mean why else would
Starting point is 00:15:50 she need to speak to me after all those years? Anyway, she said that she understood the divorce was really hard on me and that she took things further than she probably should have. I just scoffed at that, but she ignored my reaction. She then said that I shouldn't punish my daughter for what happened between the two of us. She said some of the same things my daughter has said, such as her being very young at the time of the divorce and how I can't be resentful towards her for choosing her mother over me. I just stopped her at that point and said that I have no resentment towards anyone anymore and that even if I held on to any anger, it wouldn't be towards you. her daughter. I told her that I was hurt at the realization that after all those years,
Starting point is 00:16:32 she only thought of reaching out to her father because there was a possibility of getting some money out of it. I told her the same thing I told my daughter, that if she had the decency to try and reconnect earlier she would have ended up with the inheritance. My ex tried to put up some sort of defense, but I told her that my decision was final and if they're just going to go around in circles about this one thing, then they're wasting everyone's time. I said that I had plans and that if there was nothing else to discuss, she should probably leave. She nodded and apologized for bothering me and I told her there was no need for that and she left. After she left, I just sat there in disbelief.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I never expected to ever see her again, let alone have a conversation in my home. It was strange and brought up a lot of old memories that I would rather not have thought about ever again. I went out with my friends and tried to forget all about it. So yeah. That happened and I needed to get it off my chest because. Thanks for reading along if you're still here. Update 3. I have another update for you guys. So this afternoon I was at work when I got a call from my daughter.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I thought of not picking up but curiosity got the best of me and I picked up. I picked up and straight away told her that if this was about the inheritance then I really don't think there's a point in us having a conversation. She said that there was something else she wanted to talk about. I asked her to go on and she said that she had been thinking a lot about what happened and felt like she owes me an apology. She said that she understood that she should have done things differently and that if I was willing to forgive her and give our relationship another chance then she would be happy to have me at her wedding. I was really taken aback, to say the least. I asked her if she was sure about it and she said yes and that I could take some time to think about it and let her know if I'd be there or not.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I said all right and we hung up. I'm really confused now. A part of me is overjoyed at the thought of being at her wedding but I also can't seem to shake the feeling that this is just some way for her to be on my good side and eventually get the inheritance. At the same time if she's actually being genuine, I don't want to sabotage my chance at being in her life. If I say no and she never reaches out again, I could hardly blame her. I'd appreciate some advice if anyone would like to help me out. Update 4. I've decided to go to the wedding. Many of you said that going to the wedding couldn't do any harm. I guess that makes sense. It's not like I have to do anything in return for being invited to the wedding. Also, no, I'm not in a wedding party. I'd just be a guest. I'm fine with that as I understand that going from someone she hasn't spoken to in eight years to someone walking her down the aisle at the wedding is a big leap. I don't think either of us would be comfortable with that. I really do hope this is the start of a new chapter and that we can build something meaningful out of this. Thanks to all of you for listening and all the advice you've given.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I appreciate it and hope you guys wish me luck. That's the end of the first story. Let's begin the second one. I hope you enjoy this story. Sibling deceit and deception revealed following her marriage. My sibling Lily 29F has been inseparable companions with Amber, 30F, for as far back as I, 25F, can recall, therefore maturing Ruby was like a second big sister to me. One thing that is important to note is that Ruby has always had the most outrageous fashion sense possible. She's the person that would wear those runway outfits that you think no one would actually wear. And got engaged pre-COVID. Almost as soon as it happened she started being really weird to Ruby. When she made me made of honor I was kind of surprised because they've
Starting point is 00:20:21 always sworn to be the M.O. at each other's weddings, but I am her blood sister so it wasn't that weird. But I was completely blown away when she made a group chat and I found out that Ruby wasn't even a bridesmaid. Both me and my mom tried to talk to her about it since we figured they had an argument or something but she would only say that Ruby didn't care anyway. I know that Ruby was hurt but she didn't want any drama, so I agreed to let it go. Throughout the whole wedding process my mom kept asking and if she would invite Ruby, if she would ask Ruby's opinion, etc., etc. But and refused to have any contact with her or talk about anything wedding related with her whatsoever. On Saturday my sister was married. She had a beautiful outside, socially distanced wedding. But she was seething the
Starting point is 00:21:05 whole time because of Ruby's dress. It wasn't at all outrageous by Ruby's standards so I don't believe that she wanted to outshine my sister. She wore quite a simple wedding dress, but that was her choice. As M.O. I, of course, went to her fitting and that was literally the one she chose, and has been cursing Ruby out and saying that their friendship is over ever since, like she hadn't been ignoring her all through lockdown. I just said that she's been friends with Ruby most of her life and she knows what she dresses like and that she should have expected this. If it was that much of a problem she should have found a way to mention it to her, or just made her a bridesmaid, and lost it with me. She sent Ruby some really horrible messages after she screamed at me.
Starting point is 00:21:49 She didn't say a word to me all of yesterday, but she's bad-mouthing me to our dad who was on her side. My mom has told and that she should apologize to Ruby for the nasty messages she sent and for yelling at me so and isn't talking to her either. I don't even know what's going on but Ruby swears on her life that they didn't have an argument or anything pre-COVID and says that that's none of my business and I should be supporting my real sister. My dad agrees with her and she's rallied the other bridesmaids against me so Ike, Ida? Just to clear some things up. Ruby didn't wear a wedding dress or anything really outrageous. It was a dark red, body con dress in a satiny material. There were lots of people in form-fitting dresses, the bridesmaids were wearing them,
Starting point is 00:22:33 and she didn't look out of place. Edit again, some of you people are ridiculous L-M-A-O, assuming the absolute worst-case scenario. It wasn't a spaghetti-strap dress that just barely covered her butt. It was an appropriate length and had long sleeves. If this need saying twice, the bridesmaids were wearing body-con dresses. So were many other guests. It wasn't a particularly traditional affair, nobody was offended by our figures, Ruby's dress didn't massively stick out. Ruby is very attractive. She always has been, but I never thought it was an issue for and before. Ruby N. and had been best friends for 25 years, they didn't grow apart or anything, they stayed in constant contact even as adults, and then and suddenly wasn't talking
Starting point is 00:23:20 to Ruby anymore. My mom and I weren't trying to be controlling, we were worried. We assumed that something really bad had happened for them to cut contact overnight. When and refused to talk about it, my mom was only more worried because she's normally an open book. I don't love Ruby more than and or anything like that. The only reason I'm so close to Ruby is because it used to be so close to Ruby. They were basically inseparable, so I grew up tagging after both of them. Of course I love and very much. I just think she's being unreasonable in this situation.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Ruby was always going to be at the actual wedding. The phrasing was bad on my part, sorry. When my mom was suggesting that an invite Ruby it was to wedding prep things like dress shopping, etc. I don't know if Dave, groom, has feelings for Ruby. I have never thought that, they've met many times and there's never been any signs that he does. I definitely do not think it is an affair because then surely my sister wouldn't want to marry Dave and neither would want Ruby at the wedding at all. Ruby doesn't have a history of going after Anne's boyfriends or crushes.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Update 1, based on some of the advice I'm receiving I was going to tell on this morning how much she means for me and that I'm there for her, but she's seething again, so I'm not trying to. Dave asked me if I could talk to Anne, because they've also apparently had a massive fight because he tried to defend Ruby on the wedding night. He asked me if I could explain where he misstepped and how to make it up to her. This is the first time he's ever asked me for help with their relationship, so he's clearly at a loss. I said I was just as confused and we didn't even know why she wasn't in the bridal party so he should
Starting point is 00:25:00 just try and talk it out with Anne. This is when it gets weird. Dave said that the reason Ruby wasn't in either wedding party was because he wanted her as a best woman and wanted her as a maid of honor, but in wouldn't budge and said that they should just drop her from both parties to be fair. He said that she explained it to Ruby and that's why they had a fight, because Ruby wanted to be included. I said okay and just hung up, but the more I think about it, the more confused I am. If they had a massive fight about Ruby being made of honor, surely Ruby would remember? Also, I don't know why Dave would want Ruby as his best woman when to my understanding he only met her after he started dating Anne.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I really am taking your advice not to meddle to heart, which is a nightmare because now my curiosity is totally peaked, so I won't bring it up. It's possible that this is all I'll ever know and this will bug me to my grave, but I have made a vow not to push in any more on it. Thank you everyone for your comments. Thank you all the NTA people for reassuring me that I'm not the one acting crazy. Thank you also to all the helpful OODA slash ESH verdicts that helped me see how I could change my behavior in future to be a more supportive sister. Update 2. I'm even more confused. Dave called me up about 30 minutes ago asking me, in a very angry tone of voice, if any of his
Starting point is 00:26:17 groomsmen behaved inappropriately towards me. I asked what and he asked again. I could hear and in the background shouting something. I said that they had been perfect gentleman at the wedding and that I hadn't had any contact with them since. He then asked me if Ruby knew that she was meant to be best woman. I said not to my understanding but it was possible that I don't know as both she and and had been quite secretive about what happened between them and that he'd be better off asking them themselves. He laughed and hung up. Ruby has texted me asking me what's happening and if I knew about the best woman slash maid of honor thing. Just now, I got a message from one of the bridesmaids saying that if Dave calls me I shouldn't answer him and is on the
Starting point is 00:27:00 phone to my dad, screaming, it sounds like. I have no clue what's going on but I think somewhere in this mess is the truth of what actually happened. Everything seems to be exploding. I now think that the bridesmaids or at least that particular one are involved and if things keep happening at this pace I think I should eventually find out what in the flying fuck is happening. In Update 3, there has been a lot of shouting and tears today. Honestly, I'm exhausted but so many people have commented for the update so here it is. I'm still kind of in shock and has been lying to just about everyone. The story is very complicated and long. This list is actually what I used to wrap my own head around it. It's all the facts I have in chronological order. One, Dave has been to jail and is an ex-drug addict.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He met Ruby before he met Anne. After he recovered, he was really struggling with money and Ruby helped him a lot. He considers her to be one of his closest friends. Two, two years later Dave was doing well at his job and much more stable and functional. Around this time Ruby introduced him to Anne. 3. And was very reluctant to have a relationship with Dave because of his past, but she had strong feelings for him. Eventually they began dating but she was still ashamed of the person he used to be, so she told us that they met over a dating app. Dave consented to this at the time.
Starting point is 00:28:26 4. As Dave became more comfortable with himself and the relationship became more serious, he told and that she needed to be honest with us about his history. She agreed to tell us, but she didn't. She told Dave that she had and wrote a fake letter for my family about how we were really grateful for his honesty and accepted him. She told Ruby that my parents had reacted really badly, so Ruby never brought it up with Dave or my family because she thought it was still a very sensitive topic. Five, when Dave proposed and started freaking out about the wedding. Dave wanted people from his support group to be there, Ruby as his best woman, etc., which would expose the lies, but she still didn't want to tell us who Dave was or Dave that she had lied to him, so she decided to
Starting point is 00:29:09 continue lying instead of coming clean. Six, so, Anne. Middle Dot pretended to be really upset that she couldn't have Ruby as her MO so she could make the argument that that she should be dropped from both wedding parties. She told Dave that she had explained their decision to Ruby and that Ruby had taken an issue with it to keep him happy. In reality, she knew that if Ruby knew she was meant to be best woman, it could easily get back to me and my mom, and then raise questions from us about Ruby's relationship with Dave. So she didn't tell Ruby anything at all and that's why Ruby was so confused about what happened and couldn't think of anything. Middletot told Dave and all of his friends from his support group that they shouldn't mention the addiction in speeches or even
Starting point is 00:29:51 casual conversation because it was a sensitive subject for certain family members before the wedding. Middlete told the bridesmaids so many lies about Ruby. She told them that she had a habit of causing scenes, that she was going to try and sleep with the groomsmen, that one of them was an ex-boyfriend of hers that dumped her, that she would get way too drunk. Finally she painted Ruby as a disaster waiting to happen so the bridesmaids wouldn't like her
Starting point is 00:30:15 and also so that they could keep her away from certain people, specifically the ones that also knew Dave, at the wedding. Middlete told the bridesmaids that only reason that Ruby was invited is because I idolize her so they wouldn't repeat any of the lies she told to me. 7. After the wedding, and put on her enormous meltdown about the dress. The bridesmaids obviously didn't have a very positive opinion on Ruby, so they were easy to convince that it was meant as a genuine slight. My dad did what an apparently expected everyone to do by caving immediately because she was the bride.
Starting point is 00:30:47 If me and my mom had done the same and would basically have used it as an excuse to cut Ruby out of everyone's life. 8. She tried to do the same thing with Dave's groomsmen by insisting to him that they had said inappropriate things about the bridesmaids. The idea was to basically remove anybody that knew the truth about Dave from the general social circle so it wouldn't come up again. Nine, Dave smelt a rat. He asked what exactly the issue was with Ruby's dress and what exactly his friends had said. Everyone panicked and accused him of not loving her, choosing his friends over her, etc., and it turned into a massive argument. Dave was mad and very suspicious, so he started calling people up trying to figure out what
Starting point is 00:31:27 happened. Ten, a couple of the bridesmaids said that and was telling the truth about the groomsmen, she asked slash pressured them too, but most were kind of weirded out by the request and I think they successfully got that across to Dave. He called me to ask if I knew what was going on, and told Dave that I was just like him caring about Ruby more than her, and also that I wasn't there when it happened. But the timing of the story didn't match up so Dave called me anyway. That was the weird phone call.
Starting point is 00:31:57 11. At this point he knew she was spouting BS, so he asked her up front what was going on. She broke down and told Dave everything. 12, he was fuming. He texted us all to let us know about his past and then basically kicked in out. She came to us where she then had to explain again everything and is absolutely shaken. I never considered her capable of this kind of deception and manipulation and I don't think she has ever done something like this before. Contrary to what some commenters seem to believe I don't hate my sister.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I feel sorry for her even though I'm really hurt by what she did because she feels so guilty and absolutely miserable because she's worried that things will never be worked out with Dave. She's gone to bed now very upset because our mom won't even look at her. She's fuming that and would deceive and hurt her and so many other people like this. I do understand where she's coming from. My dad is also very shocked and hurt. And texted Ruby.
Starting point is 00:32:56 She sent her a message explaining and apologizing, but obviously Ruby is really angry and upset. She just told her that she couldn't speak to her right now, but maybe she'd call her in the morning once they'd both had a chance to calm down. Dave is probably the most hurt out of everyone and I understand why. He wouldn't speak to Anne, but he did tell me that he really thought that he had our acceptance and that the letter she had written to him had been his most treasured possession ever since he received it and to find out that it was false was absolutely crushing. I told him that we did accept him for who he was and that nobody blamed him but I don't think it helped much. He has asked for distance from our family and I understand why. I'm not sure when he'll be willing to speak to
Starting point is 00:33:37 and again or if he wants to be her husband after this. I wouldn't blame him if he goes on to find someone else. Thanks Reddit, it turned out everyone was way off base, although I don't think anyone could have predicted this. But a lot of the comments were very insightful and gave me food for thought despite everyone kind of looking in the wrong directions. Except the weirdos about the dress. You know who you are. Update 4. The past two weeks have been very stressful. And and my mom have been fighting and crying for most of it. We learned that this deception of Anne's was not out of the blue. She has had this obsession with her image for a very long time. She confessed to a lot of stuff from secondary school and her job. Some of it was worrying and
Starting point is 00:34:23 some of it was really scary and manipulative. I feel so distant from the person she has become. There's tension between us that I'm not sure will ever go away, even though it really pains me as well because she's my sister. Once my dad heard some of the revelations, he decided that and should go to a therapist and really struggled against the decision which lead to a massive fight between her and my dad. I've never seen my dad so angry, neither has she which is probably why she eventually agreed. The therapist is supposed to help and process her emotions after everything that has happened and also hopefully get to the root of her problem. A lot of the comments suggested that our family wasn't healthy in the way we interact with each other.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm conflicted on this because on one hand me and my mom were right that something was very wrong. But then that doesn't mean that we didn't behave badly, if that makes sense. So I suggested family therapy. My parents are looking into it. Hopefully we can learn a bit more about boundaries and each other and eventually move on from this and has been talking a lot to Ruby. From the sounds of it, Ruby is still very upset, but I have been taking the advice not to meddle so much in their relationship and I am leaving them to it. Me and Ruby still speak a lot but not about Anne. Dave sent a message two days ago that I think has sadly resolved this very terrible situation. After learning that this is part of a pattern of behavior, he doesn't think that he wants
Starting point is 00:35:49 to be in a marriage with and at all, as he feels that she hasn't only heard him deeply but deceived him about the type of person she is. I know from Ruby that he is also seeking therapy and has confided in friends about what happens so he has a strong support system around him. I'm not getting involved with him other than that as I think he deserves distance from my family after everything, but knowing he's okay. does make me feel a little better and has taken this news badly. When she first got the message I think she had a panic attack, she was breathing really quickly and shaking and crying. She knows
Starting point is 00:36:21 that Dave learned about her past from Ruby and is absolutely furious with Ruby for telling him. She is just as preoccupied with the thought of being someone divorced as she is with the fact that Dave is leaving her. I really hope that the therapist helps her get better and although I'm not taking it I do feel guilty for not noticing this sooner because she's just not well.

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