Reddit Stories - Disastrous italian bachelorette bash safety neglected voices silenced

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #disaster #italian #bachelorette #safety #voicesSummary: The disastrous Italian bachelorette bash saw safety neglected and voices silenced. Chaos ensued as the event sp...iraled out of control, leaving attendees questioning their decisions and relationships. Will they ever recover from the aftermath?Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, disaster, italian, bachelorette, safety, neglected, voices, silenced, chaos, relationships, recovery, aftermath, decisions, event, attendees, controlBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hope you enjoy this story. Hen party in Italy takes a turn for the worse when safety warnings are disregarded and encounters with suspicious individuals occur. A 24-year-old woman has a companion who is 32 years old and recently became engaged, leading to the decision to host a celebration. Girls' trip as her bachelorette party. She picked Italy and there were six of us on this trip. My friend loves to drink and party whereas I don't drink but will indulge on occasion,
Starting point is 00:00:30 like special events and celebrations. During this trip I tried to participate in the drinking as best as I could. I'm a very bubbly and extroverted person when I'm in a group setting. So who I am sober versus drunk, it's the same energy. I have tried to express this to my friend for years, but she is still someone who gets sad when other people don't drink as much as her. It is also physically impossible for me to drink as much as her, I just can't. But I tried really hard for my friend on this, trip to indulge her. I wanted her to feel happy. I share this to express that I went in with the best intentions. But here is where I drew the line. We met some young people, they invited us to a party. We went and danced and met more people. The night kept going on longer and we were very
Starting point is 00:01:20 far from our lodgings. These young men with two women in their group told us to stay with them for the night. I wasn't feeling the situation. It felt unsafe, but the group voted and I was in the minority. They were all quite inebriated and it was hard to be the only sober person trying to get them to reconsider and get a cab and go to our lodgings. I didn't trust these men. Something seemed wrong. But I was at a loss as I could not split from my group and didn't feel safe separating from them in the middle of the night. We go to this house and settle in. In the middle of the night I hear attempts being made to enter our room. The men entered even though we had locked the doors. I pretended to be asleep and the men were talking in Italian,
Starting point is 00:02:05 but it felt like they were checking on us and wanting to do something. They were quarreling with each other going back and forth, it seemed. They ultimately left to argue outside. I didn't sleep the whole night. I texted my boyfriend and told him what was happening and how I felt unsafe. Next morning the group of girls I'm with decides we are going to stay another day because these men have offered to show us around. I didn't want to get into a car with them because I found them creepy. There were women in their group, but it didn't matter. They seemed even more suspicious to me, being overly friendly. The whole morning, I found the men staring at me a lot and also making some comments about my ethnicity. I am Korean and they could tell and it seemed
Starting point is 00:02:50 that they were interested in me because of my ethnicity, asking me strange questions, including if I'm a virgin or not. So in my head I could only think of perverted reasons for these questions because I thought these guys were sketchy and sizing us all up for some reason I couldn't figure out yet. My friends said I was having a language barrier issue and I probably misunderstood. They were liking the attention of these affluent seeming guys who were going to get us on a yacht. My suspicions and concerns went unheard.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I talked to my boyfriend in France and he said he could come get me and he did. Ada for leaving the trip because I felt uncomfortable and unsafe? I tried to communicate all this to my friend, but she didn't feel the same, so I did what I had to do for myself. The men were saying they will drive us to get our things from the hotel and we can stay with them instead, and the girls were considering it. I left four days prematurely, the girls eventually came back and told me how creepy and scary the men became and that I was right. The friend, however, 32F, whose bachelor read it was as mad at me for leaving. Edit, just want to add my boyfriend offered to drive them to our booked hotel and I urged them to follow the planned itinerary.
Starting point is 00:04:03 We even found a legit company who did yacht services. And my boyfriend offered to gift my friend by paying but she and the others wanted to go with that group of men. There is no consensus bought for Ada, but based on the top comments, OOP was NTA. Comments where OP has replied, Well Biddy, NTA is your safety and well-being is key. You repeatedly tried to get them not to go. They ignored you. But O-O-P if you're an AI or this story is the plot of a bad horror movie.
Starting point is 00:04:37 O-O-P, no, no, just want to clarify that fortunately nothing happened to my friends. They are all safe and I kept up communication with them including making them give me all their location so I could track them on my iPhone with Find My, I didn't sleep right until they left the creepy dudes, but I'm glad nothing happened. It could have been much worse. And I'm so glad it was not. Fordexy, NTA, do whatever you need to feel safe. Your friend is very selfish. She sounds like a just me, everything is about her and what makes her happy. Oh-op, I understand it was her Bachelorette trip so to some extent it is supposed to be all about her. But you are right, she can be a little self-centered, which is what I was trying to explain with the drinking.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That the same mindset applies to everything and I feel that's why she is mad at me, because she cannot see my discomfort or limitations might vary from her own. I feel bad for leaving, but I'm not sure how I could have stayed. It was difficult to weigh the responsibility of remaining a part of this trip and experience versus feeling safe. Update, February 7, 2024. I-24F did not expect such an overwhelming response on that post. I wrote it in part to vent because I felt some members of the bridal party are unfairly upset with me. I am no longer part of the group chat and I was supposed to be singing a song for the couple at this wedding, which I am sure won't be happening either.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's okay. At this point I do not want to attend. seems like a sign that I should no longer be friends with the Bride 32F and another friend from this group and maybe even the rest of them. It still hurts though. I guess that's normal. I also want to express. This can happen anywhere in the world. I do not mean to claim Italy is unsafe, rather that situations can be unsafe anywhere, especially when people get caught up and choose to stop being aware of their surroundings. When I was living at a moment, model house, I witnessed a lot of manipulation, and part of my vigilance is due to the experience I had. To have it fall on deaf ears was extremely disheartening. But I learned from this experience now too.
Starting point is 00:06:53 On my post I also received several comments requesting more information, so I will answer it here as part of the update. If I missed your question, I'm really sorry. One, did I tell the girls the men had entered our room at night? Yes. I tried to wake up the next to me to alert her after the two men went outside to argue. She was still too inebriated. All the girls were wasted and although I felt sober and lucid I also had some alcohol. So I texted the group chat and said we need to urgently talk when everyone is up. I didn't sleep all night, I stayed in this hyper-alert state. When the girls woke I explained what happened in the night along with my concerns. A few girls seemed to consider this, but the bride too be and a night
Starting point is 00:07:40 another girl began to persuade everyone I was simply overreacting. They asserted that because nothing happened, it was my personal paranoia at best. They tried to explain away the incident of the men entering the room to be that perhaps one of them was unhappy to give the room to us. They said everyone was drunk and tired, and as such, people become cranky. This conversation got cut short when a woman from the Italian group entered the room. We had no alone time after this, so I continued to put it. persist in the group chat. The only thing I kept from the girls in my group was that my boyfriend
Starting point is 00:08:15 was currently on his way. It's a few hours' drive. I chose to keep this a secret because I did not want the girls to mention it to the Italian group. I felt it would cause a problem in the worst-case scenario. Two, is the bride to be a cheater? I don't feel comfortable writing about her in detail, but she did not have sex with the men to my knowledge, and I don't think that was her intention at all, but I do feel that she and a few other girls did want to take advantage of this trip to have some kind of spontaneous adventure. They wanted a story to tell, and to have some kind of wild experience which 100% involved flirting with men for the thrill of it. This mentality quickly made following the planned itinerary boring and this new situation that presented itself more exciting.
Starting point is 00:09:00 All the other girls in the group are single, except myself, one other girl, and the bride, so I think that contributed. The bride to be and her best friend, who kept disagreeing with me alongside her, loved to party. Her fiancé is the same. They are constantly partying together, going to raves and concerts and festivals all over the world. It was also for this reason they kept trying to overrule me. They deemed themselves more experienced travelers. Even before this trip, I have always been labeled the baby of the group. Despite this label, I am not clueless. It also takes more to impress me so I don't give a reaction easily or get swept up by charitable gestures. These gestures really made the girls become careless. I am spirited and
Starting point is 00:09:48 friendly to people I know but naturally skeptical of strangers. I don't have a loud voice, but I am vocal and will speak my mind whereas some of the other girls are more quiet followers who say things that they know will be in alignment with the group. The bride and her best friend were louder, and very wrong, but their loudness and the conviction with which they projected their opinion bulldozed me especially when no one else would take my side. There was a major that only happens in movies, this would never happen to us-type mentality going on that didn't work in my favor. This mixed with the high of alcohol slash drugs and the runaway train that was the mentality of the girls on this trip. It got really hard to talk sense into any of them.
Starting point is 00:10:29 My boyfriend met me at a store when I left with a girl from the Italian group on a supply run. It felt like a red flag to me that they always wanted to accompany us. My boyfriend arrived and I told the Italian woman I am going home. My boyfriend had me call the bride to be. He said he will take them all back to the hotel. He even offered to help arrange a boat if that's what was keeping her here. She told him he is controlling and she feels bad for me. She refused everything he graciously offered and asked for me to be put on the phone.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Then she yelled at me for having done this behind her back. And for spoiling the mood of the trip slashed the memory for her. The conversation was going nowhere. She told me to essentially fuck off. I was fed up at this point and feeling unwell from lack of sleep. My boyfriend went back on the phone with the bride and made her put them on speaker and then told them all to share their location with my phone. phone. The bride refused, but everyone else did it. The girls went later with the women from the Italian group back to the hotel to get their things and relocate to the villa.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Three. After the trip, most of the girls informed me I was right, excluding bride to be and one other girl. This is what happened. The men started to get more sexual on the boat in the evening, but not before trying to get everyone extremely intoxicated. It wasn't a kidnapping scheme, I think, it seems they just wanted to get sex in return for all the free favors they had provided and became more aggressive and demanding about it. No one was sexually assaulted to my knowledge, but it seems like the men were quite persistent so the line is blurry. Also, I learned one of the girls did have sex with one of the guys, the bride to be's best friend, who was the girl that kept siding with her. She had sex with one of the men the first night and that's probably why
Starting point is 00:12:24 she was so adamant to stay. They continued their fling, but the other girls became sour to the experience and asked to leave. By the end of the night they had to check back into a different hotel. What a mess. The bride to be is angry that I abandoned the group, and that I left too suddenly without thinking about it. She says I have shown I am not a person who sticks with her through thick and thin. In my defense, I tried my best to express my feelings but they went on unheard so the only choice I had was to leave because in all honesty I refused to risk my own safety. I also did not want to get into too much detail for sake of length, but the men made me uncomfortable for several reasons and I think I have the right to not be subjected to unwanted attention. Despite all my
Starting point is 00:13:10 calm attempts to reason, the bride to be doesn't understand my side. She believes I overreacted for nothing. I'm not sure if the other girls are trying to persuade her to understand me or if they're all in agreement with her. I think I am just done defending myself. I refuse to beg for this friendship. I kind of want to just move on quietly. What transpired speaks volumes by itself, no. For background, I have known the bride to be for years and the time span is the main reason we stay friends. We don't see each other all the time, though, and can go months and months without interaction. I have many other friend groups, but the history we share keep us together. Over the years, she doesn't seem to have grown at all. So maybe it's time to go separate
Starting point is 00:13:59 ways. Comments where Op has replied. Fancy underscore complaint 4183. NTA. Shills. That could have gone so differently. Did they not see the last season of White Lotus? Thank goodness you got yourself out of there and agreed that boyfriend is a rock star and gets full marks. Ditch the is vermin pretending to be your friends. Oop, ironically I've also not watched any of White Lotus, but I see it mentioned here on my post a few times. I think I need to watch it myself. I only chose to come on the trip with these girls
Starting point is 00:14:36 after reviewing the itinerary because I knew what kind of travelers they are. I guess getting engaged to be married didn't change anything. In hindsight, I may be a little naive for thinking it would. Thank you so much for reading my post. I hope it helps someone like me in the future or makes girls aware that you can never be too cautious. I'm grateful and extremely lucky by happenstance that my boyfriend was around as he was also
Starting point is 00:15:01 going to attend this wedding. It's much more difficult when you have a long flight to take to get to your person. Additional info. I was just saying to another user in a comment that, looking back on it, I think it was naive of me to expect this group to not do something like this, given their past travel history. I made an assumption based on the itinerary and the fact that she was getting married, that this trip would be a different vibe. It wasn't and I'm just lucky my BF was also going to be attending this wedding so he was nearby to come get me. And you are so right, it should have never been about voting on whether my feelings, discomfort and concerns mattered. They should have been taken into consideration. There was a lot of evidence too. At the very least
Starting point is 00:15:46 paint the picture that these men were making aggressive unwanted advances which could escalate and that we shouldn't entertain their type of company. The fiancé is also my friend and he did ask for my side of the events after she told him hers. He did not see anything wrong with my decision and felt it was a bad idea what they decided to do. But he is somewhat like her in that he's very much a carefree partier. Also the girls and the bride all shared their side of the story first so I think it influenced the narrative a lot. He has told me he has spoken to the bride about what happened, then she reached out and asked me to attend the wedding but there was no apology. She didn't address anything or discuss it. Felt very much like she was deciding to let me back in?
Starting point is 00:16:31 And so I decided her re-inviting me to her wedding wasn't enough. I told her I am not coming. I was supposed to sing at her wedding but I'm no professional. It was more of a little gesture for the bride and groom as my friends, not something that would be missed if it didn't happen. I don't think my absence will be felt much in the sense of the program so I don't feel bad about not going to the wedding. I don't think my conscience would allow me to even sing for her without feeling like a clown after everything that went down. She's been indirectly posting passive aggressively, meme quote reels and stuff about friendships and loyalty, that I know is a dig at me on her stories. The friendship is over. And the way she's
Starting point is 00:17:12 is acting only makes it easier to be okay with that. She always has to prove she's right or explain her way out of something when she's wrong. She'll never acknowledge anything other than her perspective. I somehow got through all these years of our friendship never having ruffled her feathers, but this one time we weren't on the same page for valid reasons. It really showed me how ignorant and self-centered she is. I'm sorry for the novel. Now on to the next story. Story 2. Am I wrong for not allowing my in-laws to see my daughter after they gave her medication? I know how the title sounds, but please bear with me. Throw away for obvious reasons. I, 24M, and my wife, 24, recently had our daughter in July.
Starting point is 00:18:01 She is the best thing to ever happen to my wife and I, and we couldn't be more thrilled to have our little bundle of joy. She recently got sick while staying with her grandparents, my in-laws, while my wife and I took a trip for work. For context, my in-laws are really big into LifeWave slash X-39. It's some patch that supposedly helps regrow stem cells by reflecting light rays back into your body allowing your body to produce more stem cells to fight off diseases and sickness. If you ask me, it sounds like a snake oil and my wife agrees. calling it a pyramid scheme, the only way to get said patches is by spending well over $1,000, and then you're tasked with selling the patches yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It's essentially some multi-level marketing product, where you're the more patches you sell, the more money you make. Falling right in line with my wife's comparison to a pyramid scheme, but MLMs are somehow legal. Now, I've tried doing research on X39, and the only comments I've seen praise said product are brand new accounts never used before or after, or their entire profile is dedicated to shilling out for LifeWaves slash X39. In my own research, they appear to just be overpriced stickers. They contain no medication, no special UV rays or anything of the sort. They're literally just an overpriced sticker with an air bubble. But my wife and I have made it very clear that we
Starting point is 00:19:28 wanted no part in X39 nor did we want our daughter to have it. Even if it's fake. we wanted a no part in it and on the off chance it did something, I didn't want our daughter to be used as their lab rat or guinea pig. Now, before we left our daughter with my in-laws, we provided them with some infant medication, just in case she got sick. Can never be too safe, you know? Well, we returned home from Ray work trip early because our daughter wasn't getting any better, so we picked her up and went home.
Starting point is 00:19:59 We were going to give her a bath, and in the process of taking her jacket off, we found an X-39 patch on her arm. Upon finding it, we immediately called her parents and demanded to know why she had a patch on her. Her parents tried saying that it's safe for baby. We even ordered the ones for ages 7 and younger. And that it's practically medication. Their words, which still didn't answer our question. So my wife checked the go bag and the motron we gave them was, while it was used,
Starting point is 00:20:31 not used very much at all. Her parents tried claiming that someone else in their group or whatever gave it to their son and they got better in a week. Point is, we didn't buy it nor did we care. We've made it abundantly clear that we wanted nothing to do with X39 and we didn't want our daughter to be a part of it. They failed to listen. My wife was on the phone with them for over an hour, and while I don't know the exact length the conversation went to, I know it at least ended with her screaming going to see my fucking daughter again, and if you attempt to come to my house we will call the police before hanging up. That was three days ago now, and we've had several missed calls from family members, her parents, her siblings, and even family friends all saying that we
Starting point is 00:21:16 overreacted, and they were just trying to help. Maybe we overreacted, but we wanted nothing to do with that, and despite making it clear, they went against our wishes and did it anyways. And instead of giving my daughter actual medication, they tried to give her some placebo patch. Her parents tried claiming that we're stopping them from seeing their only grandchild over something so small. But we did the one to hear it. Ida? Ida has no consensus bought, but based on top comments, OOP was NTA.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Comments where OPP has replied. Linda Pondricks, I kind of thank you to for leaving your sick baby to go out of town. OOP we didn't leave a sick baby to go out of town. We left her with her grandparents while she was fine. We only packed Motrin because, as I stated in my post, you can never be too careful. She got sick while we were out of town, not before. Mediocre key 49.92 you say that like it's snake oil, like it's just as bad as the X-39. Was it Advil and cough syrup?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Or just a generic bottle that you wrote infant medication on? You expect us to believe that you gave the medication just in case she got sick and then she immediately got sick. Come on, this sounds like total BS. OOP her grandparents don't exactly have children medication laying around. We packed her Motrin, which I quite literally stated later in the post had you read it. Not some generic bottle or snake oil and just as bad, nor do they have the ability to really go anywhere. They live a good 30 to 40 minutes outside of any nearby town.
Starting point is 00:22:57 The drive to end from her parents is a grand whole hour drive from where we live, and my wife and I quite literally work with sick people all the time. No, I'm not a doctor nor do Webb have medical expertise, so my wife and I contracting something is usually pretty high, so we pack Motrin or whatever the store brand is that we'll buy every time we left her with her grandparents for more than a day. Update, February 8th, 2024. About a month ago I made this post ranting about my in-laws' weird obsession with A, for lack of a better term, cult regarding stem cell regeneration through patches
Starting point is 00:23:32 which clearly isn't a real thing. There's been some development on that end, and while I'm confident things will likely end here, I wanted to give a quick update for those who may have been curious. I'm writing this on the toilet at work, so don't mind the Russianess of it all. After my wife essentially cut tide with them and we all received a million phone calls and text messages from family and friends, things quieted down for about a week or two. We started having my sister watch our daughter instead, when we had to work. We haven't had another out-of-trip town since the initial post, however. Through those couple of weeks we never really heard anything beyond a couple of supposed shit
Starting point is 00:24:12 talking posts on Facebook bitching about us, but I can't seem to find the posts. We thought things were, probably, hopefully, going to end there, but boy were we wrong. And this is, quite the jump from the last post. My wife and I revised by CPS about two weeks ago or so, after they received concerning calls about supposed child abuse and negligence within the household. Of course, nothing like that happened and the caseworker was very quick to see that. We had asked who reported her, and while she couldn't say, we had a suspicion it was from her parents. We were completely helpful and cooperative with the caseworker, and after she
Starting point is 00:24:51 left that night, my wife called her mom up and asked her if she's the one who called CPS. Surprisingly, her mother took full accountability, but, not so surprisingly, tried to spin it in a round in her favor, claiming that she did it for our own good because our daughter was sick and she wasn't getting any better when she was there so clearly we were doing something awful as parents. Kids get sick, it happens. But they're also extreme anti-vaxxers. Not just COVID, I mean everything. From even as something as trivial as the flu shot.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yet, they're willing to shill out thousands of dollars for some supposed stem cell regeneration sticker. The fucking hypocrisy and irony in their bullshit is unmatched. My wife didn't really know how to react to that, so she basically told her mom to go fuck herself, and she wants nothing to do with her again. I know I saw a few comments on the last post saying MZB we shouldn't have cut them out entirely, but now I'm starting to question why we didn't cut them out years ago, before our daughter was even a thought in our heads. About a week after the first audit, my mother-in-law showed up to our house on my day off
Starting point is 00:26:02 while my wife was at work, and essentially demanded to see our daughter, forcing her way into our home boo pushing past my arm. When I told her to get the hell out of my house, she had no business matching in here like that, she essentially told me that I'm unfit to be a parent because I'm depriving my daughter of help she desperately needed because she's clearly a very sick child. My daughter is perfectly healthy right now, and in fact, has had no stiffy nose and no high temperature, nothing, I told my mill straight up that she was bats hit insane. I went off on her about how she lied to us, went against our wishes, had the audacity to call and lie to CPS, and then show up at our
Starting point is 00:26:41 house unannounced slash uninvited and march herself inside, as well as everything about her X-39-life wave bullshit. We argued there for a while, before I finally got so fed up, I told her to leave my house before I call the police. She stormed out of the house, and in true care and fashion, said this isn't over. Before slamming my door, I immediately called my wife who, was of course, irate. The following morning, we filed a restraining order at the courthouse from her mom and dad, because they're clearly not in their right mindset. The caseworker had to audit us a few more times as per their guidelines over the past two weeks, and yesterday was her last day where she informed us that we're doing good and she's sorry for the trouble they caused. We kept her up to
Starting point is 00:27:30 speed on the life wave shit, the showing up unannounced and the restraining order, and though she couldn't really take a side, she seemed apologetic. But my wife and I are pretty livid. We started looking at houses in another state to get as far as say from her in-laws as possible. Our company has offices out there, so it's entirely possible we could just be transferred. So we're crossing our fingers that all goes well, the restraining order gets filed soon enough, and we'll get a place clear across the country so that this will hopefully be my last update.

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