Reddit Stories - DISCOVERED my sibling engaging in a CLANDESTINE RELATIONSHIP with the spouse of my
Episode Date: November 15, 2025#redditstories #askreddit #aita #relationships #familydrama #betrayal #secrets #confrontationSummary: I discovered my sibling engaging in a clandestine relationship with my spouse. The betrayal shatte...red my trust and left me torn between family loyalty and personal happiness. Confronting them was difficult, but necessary for my own peace of mind.Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, relationships, familydrama, betrayal, secrets, confrontation, sibling, spouse, clandestine, loyalty, trust, personalhappiness, discovery, familyloyalty, peaceofmind, difficultconversationsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.
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Discovered my sibling engaging in a clandestine relationship with the spouse of my closest
companion at a resort, so I granted her seven days to come clean or else I would personally
inform my friend, yet what happened next destroyed multiple lives, and left me depressed
seeking therapy.
I, 31F, have a younger sister Lisa, 28F.
One of my closest friends, Rachel, 32F, is married to a Guy David, 33M, who happens to be a
mutual friend of ours as well. Rachel and I have been tight since college, and I was even a
bridesmaid in their wedding. They have two young kids, both under five. I always thought
Rachel and David had a great marriage. Unfortunately, I recently discovered something devastating.
Lisa has been having an affair with David for the past six months. I found out completely by
accident. A couple of weeks ago, I was at a hotel in the city for a work-related meeting.
In the lobby, I spotted two very familiar people, tucked away in a quiet corner.
At first I thought, nah, it can't be them.
But as I looked closer, there was no mistaking it.
They were holding hands and acting like a couple.
I even saw them share a quick kiss before heading toward the elevators together.
I felt like I was dreaming or seeing things.
I discreetly took out my phone and snapped a couple of photos.
I wasn't even thinking straight, I just knew I might need proof of what I was seeing because
it was so surreal.
I didn't confront them right there at the hotel.
It was a public place and I was in shock.
Instead, I left without attending my meeting, I made an excuse to my boss later about a
personal emergency, I just couldn't focus.
I drove around for a while to process what I saw.
My mind was racing, my own sister and my friend's husband.
I felt sick.
I kept checking the photos on my phone just to confirm I wasn't crazy.
It was them, clear as day.
That evening, I went over to Lisa's apartment.
I needed to hear her explain this.
As soon as she opened the door, I asked flat out,
Are you having an affair with David?
Lisa's face went pale and she burst into tears immediately.
She didn't even try to deny it.
She let me inside, closed the door,
and just started sobbing and apologizing.
We talked, more like argued, for hours.
Lisa admitted that she and David had been seeing each other in secret for about six months.
It started innocently, according to her, they ran into each other at a bar one night and things just happened.
She told me it was a mistake, that she never meant to fall for him.
But she has fallen for him, or so she claims.
I was furious and frankly disgusted.
I asked her how she could do this to Rachel and to the kids.
Lisa kept saying she knows it's wrong and that she feels guilty every day, but that it just
happened and we didn't mean to hurt anyone.
She said David had told her he was unhappy in his marriage and felt a connection with her,
and she fell for it.
She looked miserable and regretful, but at the same time she didn't promise stop, which concerned
me.
I demanded to know if Rachel had any idea or any suspicions.
Lisa swore Rachel had no clue.
They had been extremely careful.
They usually met at that hotel or other out-of-the-way places.
David apparently had some work excuse for being out, and Lisa would just lie about being
with friends.
It was all very secret.
According to Lisa, David told her he still loves Rachel as a person but isn't in love
with her and hasn't been for some time.
I have no idea if that's true or just in a fair partner justification.
Lisa claimed David was considering ending his marriage eventually, but was hesitant because
of the kids.
She insisted to me that she was planning to break it off with David soon because she couldn't handle
the guilt of sneaking around.
She kept saying, I don't want to destroy their family.
I know what we're doing is wrong, I was going to end it, I swear.
I told Lisa in no uncertain terms that what she was doing was beyond messed up.
Rachel is not just any friend to me, she's one of my best friends, practically family.
The fact that my own sister would betray her like this had me shaking with anger.
Lisa kept begging me not to tell Rachel.
She was literally on her knees at one point, crying and pleading.
She argued that telling Rachel would destroy a happy family for no reason,
especially if she and David were about to end the affair anyway.
I honestly don't know if Lisa would truly end it on her own,
or if that was just something she's saying to get me off her back.
I left Lisa's place that night extremely conflicted.
I didn't agree to keep the secret forever,
I just told her I needed time to think.
She was still sobbing when I left,
saying she was sorry over and over.
In the days since, I've acted normal around everyone,
but it's killing me inside.
I see Rachel or talk to her almost every day,
and it feels so wrong not to say anything.
Rachel has been happily chattering about her upcoming anniversary, she's planning a surprise
party for David for next month. She's even enlisted my help in planning some of it,
completely unaware of how messed up the situation really is. It's heartbreaking. Just yesterday,
she was gushing about how excited she is to celebrate with him and how solid their marriage
has been lately. Listening to that, I felt my face burn. I had to bite my tongue so hard.
Rachel has no clue her husband is sneaking off with my sister.
I haven't told a single soul about this besides confronting Lisa.
Not even my husband, I'm married, and he and I are both close with Rachel and David as a couple.
I wanted to keep it contained while I figured out what to do.
My loyalty is split in a horrible way, between my sister and my close friend.
If I reveal the affair, I'm essentially nuking my relationship with Lisa, she'll probably never forgive me.
me. It will likely also blow up David and Rachel's marriage, which maybe deserves to happen,
but there are two young kids involved who I adore. If I stay silent, I'm protecting my sister,
for now, and the kid's intact home, but I'm also actively deceiving my friend by a mission.
I feel complicit in the betrayal every time I see Rachel's trusting face.
Lisa is now avoiding me unless absolutely necessary. When we have talked, she basically just
repeats that I should mind my own business and let them handle it. She hasn't broken it off yet as
far as I know. When I asked if she's ended it with David like she promised, she got defensive and
said, I will, just give me time. You barging in will only make things worse. It's clear she's hoping
I'll just stay quiet indefinitely. I don't know if I can. Every day that goes by, I feel worse
about keeping this secret.
Rachel is over here living in a fool's paradise, and it just seems cruel.
At the same time, the idea of being the one to shatter her world is terrifying to me.
I know she's going to be devastated, and I hate that I'm in a position to deliver so much
pain.
So, Reddit, would I be the asshole if I exposed my sister's affair to save my friend's marriage?
Or in other words, Ida for telling Rachel that her husband is cheating with my own sister?
I genuinely don't know what the right thing to do is here.
I feel like either choice is going to destroy someone.
Should I stay out of it because it's not my business, as Lisa says?
Or do I owe it to my friend to tell her the truth, even if it blows up my sister's life?
I'm damned either way and losing sleep over this.
Update 1, I want to say, thank you for all the responses on my original post.
The majority of you made it clear that Rachel deserves to know the truth's
sooner rather than later. It was painful to read, but it solidified what I think I already knew
deep down. So, I took your advice. Two days after my original post, I met with Lisa again.
I told her in no uncertain terms that she has one week to come clean, meaning she needs to convince
David to confess to Rachel within seven days, or I will tell Rachel myself. I figured
giving them a chance to do it on their own was as fair as I could be. That way, Rachel could
hear it from her husband, or even from my sister directly, if they chose, rather than from
me. I honestly hope David might have enough decency left to be honest with his wife when
confronted. Lisa did not take this well. When I delivered the ultimatum, she immediately started
panicking. She got visibly shaken and said, no, no, no, please, I need more time. I can't do that
in just a week. She actually started crying again, saying that a week.
wasn't enough for them to get their affairs in order, interesting choice of words. I remained
firm. I told her I wasn't bargaining. One week was already generous, considering every extra
day of lying is another day Rachel is being deceived. She switched from panic to begging.
She asked me to please reconsider and not interfere, trotting out the same arguments as before,
that I'd be destroying multiple lives, that the kids would be traumatized, that Rachel would be
heartbroken, etc. I told her bluntly, Rachel is already being hurt, she just doesn't know
it. And every day you continue this affair, you're making it worse. That's on you and David,
not on me. Lisa just kept saying, it's not that simple, you don't understand. Finally, when
begging didn't move me, Lisa got angry. She yelled at me that I was meddling in things that weren't
my business. She actually said, this isn't your life or your marriage.
stay out of it. That made me pretty mad. I shot back that she dragged me into it by doing
this with my friend's husband. I also reminded her that I gave her the chance to handle it privately,
but if she and David weren't going to do the right thing, then I would. She called me a self-righteous
bitch at that point. It was a very emotionally charged conversation, lots of yelling and crying
from both of us. I told her this was her own mess, and I had zero culpability.
for whatever fallout comes from the truth coming out. I also emphasize that the only people
destroying a family here are her and David. She was hysterical by the end of the talk,
but I held my ground and left her place. Since that confrontation, Lisa has gone mostly quiet.
She hasn't responded to my texts asking if she's spoken to David about my ultimatum.
It's been a couple of days of radio silence. I suspect she's either in denial, or she's hoping I'll chicken out.
Possibly, she's scrambling with David to figure out a game plan.
I did send one message making it clear, I meant what I said, one week.
She saw the message, read receipts, but no reply.
I also wrestled with whether I should just tell Rachel immediately and not even give them
the week.
But after a lot of thought and reading your advice, I decided one week is the final bit of
grace I'll allow.
It gives David a chance to possibly do right by his wife, not that confirmed.
confessing fixes the betrayal, but at least it's coming from him. If nothing happens by the end of the
week, I will tell her myself. To be honest, these past few days have been hell. Every time I see or
talk to Rachel, I'm hyper aware that this awful clock is ticking in my head. I haven't given any
hints to her yet. I'm trying to act normal until it's time to actually drop the bomb. But it's so
damn hard to look her in the eyes and keep up conversation knowing what I know. I also feel
sick about the family aspect. I haven't told our parents anything. They have a good
relationship with Rachel and David too. They think David is a great guy and that Lisa and
Rachel are friends. This is going to be a nightmare when it eventually blows up. I know my parents
will be disappointed in Lisa, and possibly angry at me for telling, since it pits sister against sister.
I'm not looking forward to that fallout either, but it can't be the reason I stay silent.
So that's where things stand.
I've essentially issued an ultimatum.
Seven days.
If by then Rachel hasn't heard the truth from either of them, I will tell her myself.
I'm preparing myself mentally for that conversation and its aftermath.
I have the evidence, the pictures I took, plus I wrote down everything Lisa confessed to me.
I hope it won't come down to me breaking the news, but I'm fully ready to do it.
Update 2, it hasn't been a full week yet, but something happened that pushed the timeline forward.
I wasn't planning to post again so soon, but here we are.
A couple of days after my ultimatum talk with Lisa, I was hanging out at Rachel's house.
She had invited me over to help finalize some plans for the anniversary surprise she's throwing for David.
We were going over catering ideas in her kitchen after the kids were in bed.
That's when Rachel confided something that broke me on the inside.
With a big smile on her face, she told me that she and David have been talking about trying
for a third baby.
I must have reacted visibly because she asked me if I was okay.
I tried to smile and play it off, something like, oh wow, that's big news.
She went on happily chatting about how after the anniversary she's thinking of getting off birth
control and letting nature take its course. She even joked that she might soon need me to be
an ante to another little one. I think I managed to nod and get through the conversation,
but inside I was fuming. I am so angry at David and my sister, at this point.
Rachel is making life-changing decisions based on lies. The thought of her getting pregnant,
bringing another child into this situation, while David is secretly betraying her,
it's just horrifying. I barely held it together while she was showing me some cute nursery decor idea
she'd saved on Pinterest. Yes, she's already thinking that far ahead, and no, David clearly
hasn't discouraged these plans. That night, I barely slept. I kept picturing Rachel a year from now,
possibly pregnant, finding out her husband had been cheating on her all along. The idea of it
made me feel physically ill. I realized I cannot, in good conscience, wait any longer.
The ultimatum I gave, a week, was supposed to give them a chance, but knowing this new info,
I decided I was done waiting out the clock. Lisa's silence over the last few days also told me
that she and David were likely not going to do the right thing on their own. For all I know,
they might even let Rachel go ahead and get pregnant and still not say a word. I can't let that
happen. So, I've made up my mind, I'm telling Rachel, and I'm telling her very soon, likely within
the next 24 to 48 hours. I haven't informed Lisa or David of this decision. I don't plan to give
any further heads up. They've had their chance. I doubt they're going to suddenly confess at the
last minute, and I'm not interested in playing chicken with people's lives. I'm absolutely
dreading the conversation I have to have with Rachel, but I know it has to be done.
She needs to know what kind of man she's married to before she throws an anniversary party,
before she tries for another baby.
I've been rehearsing in my head how to tell her gently, but there's really no gentle way.
It's going to shatter her, no matter what.
I've decided the best approach is to do it at my place, rather than hers.
The kids will be around at her house, and I don't want them to potentially see their mom break down.
I'm thinking of asking her to come over for coffee or something tomorrow morning while David
is at work and her kids are at daycare slash grandmas.
That way it's just the two of us in a private setting,
and she won't immediately have to face her husband or children.
I will make sure she doesn't have to drive right after hearing the news.
I can call her sister or someone to come be with her if needed.
To be honest, I'm scared.
But I know it's the right thing to do.
I keep reminding myself of that.
Better and ugly truth now than a worse truth later.
update three, I told Rachel. It was, as expected, one of the hardest, most heart-wrenching
conversations I've ever had. I'm still processing everything, and I know she is too,
but here's what happened. I invited Rachel over to my house yesterday under the pretense of
having some leftover sample desserts from the anniversary planning. I had told her I got some
cupcake samples from a bakery, a little white lie to get her to swing by without a rousing suspicion.
Late morning, she came by.
She was in a great mood, joking about how she was excited to try the cupcakes and finalize
fun party details.
We sat down in my living room and I gently steered the conversation away from the party.
I said, hey, there's actually something important I need to talk to you about.
I think my tone or expression must have alerted her because she got serious pretty fast.
She said, sure, what is it?
or something along those lines. I remember my heart was pounding so hard I could hear it in my
ears. I knew there was no way to cushion the blow, so I just came out with it.
Rachel, I found out that David has been having an affair. She looked at me as if I'd spoken
to her in a foreign language, like she couldn't process the words. She sort of half-smiled in
disbelief and said, what? What do you mean? I went on to explain, as calmly and compassionately,
as I could, that I had evidence and I didn't want to believe it myself at first, but it's
true. I told her I saw David and the other woman together with my own eyes. I was trying to
avoid saying the name at first, to let her absorb the idea of the cheating before adding the
extra betrayal of who it was. But she kept asking, with who? Who is he with? Initially, I said,
it's someone I know. Someone we both know. That seemed to confuse and worry her even.
even more. She looked almost panicked, rattling off, who? Tell me. Do I know her well?
Finally, I had to just say it. It's Lisa. My sister. As soon as I said that, Rachel's face
changed in a way I will never forget. It was like every emotion hit her at once, shock,
confusion, anger, disgust. She just said what? Really loudly and then went silent, eyes
tears. I quietly told her everything I knew, that I accidentally saw them at the hotel,
that it had been going on for about six months, as far as I was told, and that I confronted
Lisa about it. I even showed her one of the photos I took at the hotel.
Rachel just stared at it, then covered her face with her hands and started sobbing.
She didn't scream or yell. It was this gut-wrenching, quiet sobbing that honestly made my
heart feel like it was in a vice. I started crying too. I sat next to her and just kept
saying, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Rachel. I must have said that a dozen times. I tried to hug
her, and for a second she let me, but then she pulled away and, through her tears, she asked,
why? Why are you telling me this? Not in an accusatory way, more like she was just bewildered
and devastated. I told her, because you deserve to know the truth. You're my friend and I love you,
and you don't deserve what's been happening behind your back. I also explained that I gave them a chance
to come clean and they didn't. She nodded, kind of dazed. For a few minutes we just sat there
while she cried. I handed her tissues. She asked me if I was absolutely sure. I affirmed it,
and told her I wouldn't have said anything unless I was 100% sure.
I mentioned I had more than just the photo, that Lisa herself admitted it to me.
That seemed to really upset her more, the idea that my sister confessed means it's indisputable.
She asked if anyone else knew, I said as far as I'm aware.
No one else in our circles knows, I didn't mention the internet strangers, of course.
Eventually, Rachel composed herself just enough to speak in full sentences.
the first thing she said was, I need to go. I need to talk to him. I offered to drive her or go
with her, but she refused and said she'd be okay to drive. In hindsight, I probably should
have insisted on driving her, but she was adamant and I also think she wanted to confront him
alone. I was really worried about her, but I also understood that burning needs she had to get
answers from David immediately. I made her promise to call me later, and I asked if there was
anyone else I should call for her, like her sister or another friend, to be with her when she
confronted him. She said no, she wanted to do it one-on-one first. So I let her go, watching to
make sure she was okay enough. I did text her sister after she left, just saying Rachel might
need her later without giving details. Her sister knows something is up now, but that's fine,
anyway, later that evening, I got a call from Rachel. She was sobbing again, she managed to tell
me what went down. She waited at home for David to get back from work. When he walked in,
she immediately asked him if there was something he needed to tell her. She said he looked
caught off guard and said something like, uh, what do you mean? And she just dropped it, I know you're
cheating on me. I know everything. According to Rachel, David just froze and didn't speak for a
moment. Then he tried to do damage control, saying things like it's not what you think and I was going
to tell you, I swear. Apparently, that enraged Rachel and she really let him have it, yelled
at him, cussed him out. She didn't even ask why in that moment. She just unleashed months of hurt
that she was feeling all at once. She told him she'd been planning a surprise anniversary party
and trying for another baby, and how could he do this to her, etc. Eventually, David admitted
to everything. There was no point in denying it once he realized I had already told her and she had
evidence. He confirmed the affair with Lisa, said it just happened and that he never meant to
hurt her. He tried to say he still loves Rachel and he was confused and all the usual
bullshit cheater sputter. Rachel told me she actually laughed in his face when he said that.
She told him their marriage was over and to get the hell out of the house. This part stunned me
a bit. David didn't fight. He didn't beg her for forgiveness, at least not in any meaningful way
beyond a week sorry. He didn't hesitate much when she told him to leave. He went to pack a bag.
Rachel thinks he already knew deep down this moment was coming once I knew about the affair.
She suspects, and I do too, that Lisa had probably warned him I found out and that I might tell.
So maybe he was somewhat prepared for the eventual fallout. David packed a suitcase and left
that very night. And yes, as I unfortunately expected, he went straight to Lisa.
I know this because after I hung up with Rachel, I messaged my sister, simply asking if David
was with her now. She replied with a single text, yes. Thanks a lot. That's the only communication
I've had with Lisa since the ultimatum argument. So yeah. David is now hold up at my sister's
apartment, apparently. Back to Rachel, I drove over to her house after she called, because I was really
worried about her mental state. By the time I got there, David was long gone. Rachel's kids
were, thankfully, at her moms for the night. I think Rachel had arranged that earlier,
anticipating a blow up when she confronted David. So it was just her at home. She looked
wrecked, puffy eyes. I sat with her, made her drink some water, tried to comfort her as best I could.
She was mostly quiet, in a state of shock, I think.
At one point she just said in a hollow voice, what am I going to tell the kids?
That broke my heart.
I didn't have a good answer.
I said we'd figure it out and that I'd help her however I can.
I eventually persuaded her to try to get some sleep.
I stayed over on her couch.
No way was I leaving her alone that night.
I don't think either of us slept much, but at least we closed our eyes for a bit.
So here we are.
This morning, Rachel is understandably depressed.
She swings between crying, staring off into space, and angrily ranting about David and,
occasionally, Lisa.
She hasn't mentioned being angry at me at all.
Actually, she thanked me for telling her the truth.
I cried at that too, because I was half expecting she might resent me a little, since
knowing has caused her pain.
But no, she's grateful in a tragic sort of way.
That at least reassures me that I did the right thing by her.
The road ahead is going to be hard for her.
She's already talking about divorce.
There's no coming back from this for her,
especially since it wasn't a one-time thing
but a full-blown ongoing affair with someone she knows.
I offered to help in any way,
whether that's helping with the kids,
or driving her to see a lawyer,
or just being there to listen.
She gave me a long hug.
It was a very emotional morning.
I haven't even begun to process my feelings about Lisa and David now openly being together.
That's a whole other mess. My own sister is now officially the other woman turned maybe girlfriend.
It makes me feel a bit ill. I'm furious at both of them. They caused all this pain, and now they're
shacked up together while Rachel is in agony and two little kids' lives are upended. It's so
unjust. For now, my priority is Rachel and the kids.
I'll be helping her get the resources and support she needs.
She already contacted a divorce attorney this afternoon, just to start the process rolling.
She's not wasting time.
Update 4. It's been a few weeks since the big blow-up, and things have been moving forward in a sort of grim, inevitable way.
I wanted to share how everyone is holding up and what's been happening.
Firstly, Rachel did file for divorce roughly a few days after finding out about the affair.
There was no hesitation on her part. As soon as she gathered herself enough, she met with her lawyer
and got the paperwork started. David was served with divorce papers promptly. He apparently
didn't contest anything major. From what I understand, he's cooperating, likely out of guilt
or maybe because he knows there's no point fighting. He's agreed to move the process along as
cleanly as possible. They have worked out a temporary custody arrangement for the kids.
Rachel has primary custody, which is what she wanted, and what David, to his slight credit,
didn't battle her on. Right now, the kids are with Rachel most of the time, and David gets
them every other weekend and one midweek dinner, a fairly standard arrangement. The kids are
very young and, mercifully, still too little to grasp the full situation. They just know
mommy and daddy live in different houses now. Rachel and David told them something like Daddy is
staying at Annie Lisa's for a while. Yes, they dropped that tidbit on the kids, which made me
cringe, but I suppose they figured the kids would find out when going to visit him anyway.
Speaking of that, yes, David is still living at Lisa's apartment. So I guess you could say
Lisa and David are an official couple now, if that wasn't already obvious. The level of disgust
and awkwardness this creates is beyond measure. I've kept my distance from both of them,
as has pretty much everyone else in our family-slash-friend circle.
The general sentiment toward them is that what they did is unforgivable.
Even people who didn't know Rachel well are appalled that Lisa would do this to a friend
slash her own sister, and that David would betray his wife and kids.
My parents found out about the affair and ensuing chaos pretty much right after it all went
down.
I sat them down and explained everything.
I wanted them to hear it from me rather than through gossip.
They were shocked and devastated.
My mom cried, my dad was furious.
They actually reached out to Rachel to offer support and apologies on behalf of our family.
They told me they always considered Rachel like family and they feel sick about what Lisa did,
as for their relationship with Lisa now.
It's strange to say the least.
My parents told Lisa in no uncertain terms that she screwed up horribly.
They're very upset with her.
At the same time, Lisa is their daughter, so they haven't cut her.
her off completely, but things are nowhere near okay. I know they had a few serious talks
with her, and apparently she was very defensive. She kept saying things like you don't
understand, David and Rachel's marriage was already falling apart, which, from everything
I've seen, is a flimsy excuse and likely untrue from Rachel's perspective. She also said
she's in love with David and didn't intend for anyone to get hurt, which my mom flat out told
her was BS given her actions. From what my parents relayed to me, Lisa is still with David
but not exactly happy with how the situation turned out. Well, what did she expect? My mom said
Lisa actually complained to her, everyone hates us now. It's like we're the villains. To which
my mom apparently replied, can you blame them? Look what you did. I've maintained very low
contact with Lisa. Basically, we are not speaking unless we absolutely have to, which hasn't
happened yet. She did send me one text after the dust settled, which read, I hope you're
satisfied. You've destroyed our family. Don't ever talk to me again. That hurt, I won't lie.
Being accused by my own sister of destroying our family is rich, considering her choices.
I didn't respond. I have no desire to get into a texting
war with her. I figured there's no point in engaging until maybe years down the line when
emotions aren't so high, if ever. So yes, as of now, I have effectively lost my sister.
She has cut me off, and I her, in practice. That's a really sad thing to process. We were
fairly close before all this. Not best friends or anything, but sisters who hung out on holidays,
exchanged memes, grabbed brunch occasionally. Now that's seemingly gone. On to Rachel,
she is hanging in there. Some days are better than others for her. In the initial couple of
weeks after the confrontation, she was deeply depressed, barely getting out of bed, crying constantly.
I was very worried. I and a few of her other close friends basically set up a schedule to make
sure one of us was with her every day, helping with the kids and offering support.
To Rachel's credit, she started therapy and is actively seeking help to cope with the emotional
fallout. She has good support from her family too. I see her or talk to her pretty much every day.
She tells me she has her moments of utter sadness, especially at night when the kids are asleep and
she's alone with her thoughts. But she's trying to stay strong for her children. She did tell the
kids, in a very age-appropriate way, that mommy and daddy won't be living together anymore and
that it's not the kid's fault. The older one, for years old, has had some confusion and
acting out, which is expected. The younger, too, is thankfully too young to really grasp it.
It's heartbreaking to watch, but Rachel is doing her best to give them stability and love.
I help with babysitting whenever I can, and I've kind of stepped in as an anti-figure even more now
to fill whatever small part of the void I can.
One delicate thing, the kids do see Lisa when they go to David's for visitation,
since he's living at her place.
This was something Rachel was furious about initially.
She didn't want the kids around the mistress at all.
But legally, she can't really prevent David from having his sister-in-law slash girlfriend
present during his parenting time, unless something egregious happened.
David is their father, and as awful as this situation is,
Lisa is their biological aunt and now essentially their dad's partner.
It's a twisted dynamic that we're all just stomaching for now.
Rachel vented to her lawyer, but was advised not much can be done unless the kids are being harmed,
which they're not, aside from the confusion of it all.
From what I've heard, Lisa tries to play cool aunt when the kids are over.
That makes me feel ill, but at least it sounds like she's not bad to them.
Still, the nerve of that situation is outrageous.
She helped break up their family and now she's hosting them at her place like it's normal.
I can only imagine what goes through Rachel's mind thinking about that.
Now, regarding Lisa and David's relationship, I mentioned my mom said Lisa isn't exactly happy.
From a couple of tidbits I've gathered, mostly via my parents or mutual acquaintances,
since I'm not talking to Lisa directly, things are tense between them.
Surprise, surprise, a relationship built on sneaking around and hurting others isn't all
sunshine once it's out in the open. I heard that David has been having a rough time too.
He misses his kids a lot, and apparently he's been moody and guilt-ridden. Imagine that.
Living with the person he blew up his life for isn't so romantic when he's dealing with
divorce lawyers and a distraught ex and limited time with his children. There's gossip that
Lisa and David have been arguing frequently. My mom even said that one time when she called
Lisa, David, and she were in the middle of a spat about something trivial. Who knows if it's the
stress, the guilt, or them just realizing lust and love aren't the same when reality hits?
I'm not exactly rooting for their happiness, to be honest. If they stay together, that's its own
karma because they'll always have to live with what they did and the trust issues that come
with it. And if they break up, well, poetic justice maybe. I try not to dwell on that too much,
because it's not really my business anymore except where it intersects with family.
I haven't sought therapy for myself yet, but I'm considering it.
I don't regret telling the truth. I want to make that clear.
Despite all this sorrow, I would make the same choice again, because living a lie would have
been worse in the long run. But I'd be lying if I said the outcome hasn't been weighing heavily
on me. It has. Anyway, sorry if this update is a bit all over the place.
There's just a lot that has happened and a lot of emotions involved.
Update 5, I wish I were coming back with a happier update after all this time, but sadly,
I'm writing this with a very heavy heart.
It's been roughly a year since my original post.
The divorce between Rachel and David was finalized about seven months ago.
It went as expected, Rachel got primary custody officially, with David having visitation,
Assets were divided, and they moved on legally.
However, emotionally, Rachel struggled immensely in the aftermath, far more than any of us realized.
Five months after the divorce was finalized, Rachel took her own life.
Even typing that out makes me feel like I can't breathe.
It's a nightmare that still doesn't feel real.
She was only 33.
Those beautiful two little kids lost their mother.
And I...
I lost a dear friend.
To share what we know, Rachel had been battling depression ever since the affair came to light
and her marriage fell apart.
She put on a brave face for a while, especially for her kids, but she was in deep pain.
She was in therapy and on medication, and for a time it seemed like she might be slowly
finding her footing.
We, her family and friends, tried our best to support her.
I truly believe that with time, she would heal and maybe even find happiness again.
I knew she was still in love with David in a complicated way and that heartbreak ran deep.
But I did not see this coming.
Maybe I was naive, or maybe she hid the worst of her feelings from us.
The way it happened is extremely hurtful.
Rachel's sister told me the details.
Rachel's kids were scheduled to be with David for the weekend.
One Friday evening, Rachel dropped the kids off at David's, where, yes, Lisa was likely present too.
According to David, she was polite but quiet during the handoff.
Nothing seemed obviously off.
She then went home to an empty house.
That night, she hanged herself in her bedroom.
We suspect she planned it in advance, because she left a note taped on the outside of her
front door for when the kids would come home.
The note was essentially instructions.
It said that if anyone found the note, they should not come in but call 911 and contact David
to pick up the kids, if they were to find the note. It explicitly said to keep the children
away from the scene. She also left sealed letters for each of her children and one for David.
It was the neighbor who found the note the next morning on her door. This neighbor was a friend
and knew about Rachel's depression. They used to check in on each other. The neighbor
immediately called the police. Rachel's sister told me that the letter Rachel left for David
basically said she was sorry but she couldn't live with the pain anymore.
and that she hoped he would be a better father to their kids than he was a husband to her.
There was a line in there, which brings me to tears, where she wrote to him,
I was so in love with you that I couldn't bear living without your love.
She did also make it clear that the kids were the only thing keeping her going as long as they did,
but in the end her despair overwhelmed her.
I cannot even begin to describe the devastation this has caused.
Her family is beyond shattered.
The kids.
God, the kids.
The older one, now five, understands Mommy is gone, but not fully why.
The younger one, three, keeps asking when Mommy is coming back, which absolutely breaks everyone's
hearts.
Right now, David has the children full-time.
Rachel's parents are involved a lot, helping with their care, I suspect there might be a
custody fight brewing there, since they are so angry at David.
As for David and Lisa, I have not spoken a single word to either of them since long before
this happened. But of course, this tragedy affects them too, in the sense that any half-decent
human being would feel enormous guilt. I don't have a direct line of insight into David's mind,
but from what I've heard through others, he is deeply shaken and grief-stricken by Rachel's
suicide. Some might say he doesn't have a right to mourn her after what he did, but human
emotions are complicated. He lost the mother of his children, a woman he once presumably loved,
and he knows that his actions contributed to her downward spiral.
Apparently, he's not handling it well, as expected.
I've heard he blames himself.
Frankly, a lot of people blame him, and Lisa.
Speaking of Lisa, my parents have been keeping me vaguely informed.
She is reportedly a mess over this.
I don't know if it's guilt, fear, sorrow, or all of the above,
but my mother said that when Rachel's death was confirmed, Lisa was hysterical.
According to my mom, Lisa tried to attend Rachel's funeral but ultimately didn't, probably
for the best, as I doubt Rachel's family would have wanted her there.
David did attend, of course, and it was apparently very tense and emotionally charged.
Rachel's brother almost punched him, I did go to the funeral.
That was one of the hardest days of my life.
Seeing two small children in front of a coffin is something I'll never be able to forget.
Rachel's family was kind to me, though.
In their grief, they still thank me for being honest with Rachel, saying she valued
me as a friend.
That made me break down crying on the spot.
It's all just so heavy.
Now I'm here, trying to make sense of everything.
I'll be honest, I feel a crushing guilt.
In my heart, I cannot shake the feeling that if I had just kept my mouth shut, maybe Rachel
would still be alive.
David and Lisa might have quietly ended their affair, or not, who knows, and Rachel might have
gone on unaware, maybe even having that third baby she wanted.
Maybe the marriage would have eventually crumbled years later for other reasons, or maybe
not at all.
I find myself torturing myself with those what-ifs.
What if my intervention did more harm than good in this case?
I wanted to protect my friend from lies, to give her the chance to not waste her life with a
cheater. But what she got instead was unbearable heartbreak that she ultimately couldn't live
with. It's a thought that's going to haunt me probably for the rest of my life.
I am in therapy now, because I recognize that these feelings of guilt and depression in me
need to be addressed. I'm trying to remember that I acted out of love and honesty.
Some days I managed to believe that, other days I just feel sick and responsible.
There's a counseling fund set up for Rachel's kids and I contribute to that.
As for my relationship with Lisa, well, there is none.
If there was any slim hope of reconciling in the future, it's gone now.
In my darkest moments, I admit I have felt a white-hot anger at her and David, blaming them fully.
If they hadn't had an affair, none of this pain would have happened.
It's true in a sense, but it doesn't ultimately matter.
What's done is done, and now we all have to live with the aftermath.
I'm going to try to find some way to make peace with it, if that's even possible.
And I'll do my best to be there for those kids in any capacity I'm allowed, because they're the ones who matter most now, and please, if you or anyone you know is struggling with depression or suicidal thoughts, seek help.
I wish with all my heart that Rachel had found a way to hold on. I'm sorry this turned so dark.
