Reddit Stories - Mother evicted me when she WELCOMED new CHILDREN with my STEPFATHER, then appeared

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #familydrama #eviction #stepfamily #parenting #relationshipsSummary: Mother evicted me when she WELCOMED new CHILDREN with my STEPFATHER, then appeared.Tags: redditstor...ies, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, familydrama, eviction, stepfamily, parenting, relationships, mother, children, stepfather, conflict, familyissues, personalstory, emotional, toughchoices, familybonding, support, decisionmakingBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hope you enjoy this story. Mother evicted me when she welcomed new children with my stepfather, then appeared asking for funds for their university education. When I declined, she pursued me until I received a restraining order. Restraining order and she was arrested. So, I'm a guy, early 30s now, doing pretty okay for myself. Got a career I busted my ass for, a nice place, the kind of stuff that's supposed to mean you've made it, right? But the past has this nasty habit of crawling out of the woodwork when you least expect it, usually smelling like desperation and entitlement. My early life, well, it was just me and mom for a long time.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Dad was never in the picture, bailed before I was born, from what I gather. And you know what? For a while, Mom was everything. She worked two jobs, always tired, but she was there. We weren't rich, not by a long shot. but it was. Stable. I remember her reading to me, helping with homework,
Starting point is 00:01:06 the smell of her cheap perfume when she'd tuck me in. Those are the memories that mess with your head later, make you wonder if you imagine the good parts. Then, when I was about ten, she met stepdad. Let's call him Dale, because that's his name and he doesn't deserve an ounce of anonymity or protection from me. Dale was. Fine, at first.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Quiet. Didn't really engage with me much, which suited me, I guess. Mom seemed happy, like a weight had been lifted. She started smiling more. I thought, okay, maybe this is good. About a year later, the twins arrived. A boy and a girl. Suddenly, the dynamic in the house shifted, and not subtly. It was like a switch flipped in mom. Before, I was her world. After, I was. An inconvenient piece of furniture from a previous life. Every ounce of her attention, her energy, her already strained resources, went to the twins and Dale.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I became an afterthought, then a burden. It wasn't one big dramatic event, not at first. It was a slow fade. My birthdays became less of a thing. School events Oh, honey, Dale's got a thing, and the twins are just so much work. Little comments, could you keep it down? The babies are sleeping.
Starting point is 00:02:38 My needs were always, always secondary. Dale, for his part, just enabled it. He never explicitly told me I wasn't wanted, but he never made me feel like I was. He'd look at me like I was an unwelcome guest who'd overstayed. This went on for years. I learned to be self-sufficient, quiet, invisible. I ate dinner alone a lot. Did my homework alone, navigated teenage onks pretty much by myself.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Mom was too busy, too tired, too focused on her new family. The rare times I tried to talk to her, to connect, her eyes would glaze over, or she'd steer the conversation back to the twins, their latest milestone, their needs. It was like talking to a polite stranger who was just waiting for you to leave. When I was 16. Not even old enough to legally be on my own, but apparently old enough to be disposable. I remember it clear as day. It was a Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I came home for my part-time job at the grocery store. Mom and Dale were sitting at the kitchen table, looking serious. That we need to talk look that never, ever means anything good. We've been doing the numbers, Mom started, not quite meeting my eye. Dale just stared at the tabletop like it held the secrets of the universe. Things are, really tight, honey. With the twins growing up and Dale's hours being cut a bit. I just stood there, backpack slipping off my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I knew where this was going. I wasn't stupid. Your grandparents, she continued, finally looking at me, but her gaze was hard. They've got that spare room. And you're practically an adult now. You're responsible. You're kicking me out, I said. It wasn't a question.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Dale finally spoke, his voice flat. It's not kicking you out, son. It's just a practical arrangement. We can't afford to support you properly anymore. You'd be better off there. More space. More space for you. them, he meant. I looked at my mother. There was nothing there. No sadness, no regret. Just a kind of
Starting point is 00:05:03 grim resolution. It was like she'd already mourned the loss of me years ago and was just now getting around to the paperwork. What about school? I asked, my voice shaking a bit despite myself. My friends? My job. Your grandparents don't live that far, mom said dismissively. You can make it work. You're resourceful. Resourceful. That was their excuse for abandoning me. I argued.
Starting point is 00:05:34 God, did I argue? I yelled. I might have pleaded a bit, though I hate to admit it. I asked her how she could do this. Didn't I mean anything? The whole thing is a blur of anger and a cold, hard nod of betrayal. Dale mostly stayed quiet, letting her. do the dirty work. At one point, he just said, it's for the best, for everyone. For their everyone,
Starting point is 00:06:01 maybe. They didn't even look guilty. That's what got me. They looked relieved. So, a week later, I was living with my maternal grandparents. They were good people, old-fashioned, quiet. They took me in without fuss, though I could see the disappointment in their eyes, not with me, but with their daughter. They never said much about it, but Grandma would sometimes just sigh and shake her head when she thought I wasn't looking. I kept my job, transferred schools for my last year of high school. It was hell. New school, no friends, living in a house that felt like a museum. But I was determined. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of seeing me fail. I worked my ass off, got decent grades, and somehow, scraped my way into a state college. That's when I made the mistake
Starting point is 00:06:55 of thinking Mom might actually give a damn. I needed help with tuition, books, just a little something. I called her. Big mistake. Oh, honey, she said, that fake sweet voice she used when she was about to disappoint me. We'd love to help, but you know, the twins. Kyle needs braces, and Skies got her dance classes. And Dale's car just broke down. There's just nothing spare. I remember gripping the phone so hard my knuckles were white. Mom, I said, trying to keep my voice even. I got into college. This is important. And we're so proud of you. She chirped. But you're resourceful. You'll figure it out. Maybe get some more loans. Resourceful. There it was again.
Starting point is 00:07:51 There get out of jail free card for being shitty parents. I hung up. I was past tears with her. I called my aunt Carol, mom's younger sister. Carol had always been the more grounded one in the family. She listened, she sighed, and then she said, Okay, sweetie, let's see what we can do. And she did.
Starting point is 00:08:14 She co-signed a loan, sent me a bit of cash when she could. She was the one who believed in me. Not my own mother. College was tough. Working two jobs, studying like a maniac, barely sleeping. But every time I thought about quitting, I'd remember that phone call with mom. That casual dismissal. And it fueled me.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Spite is a powerful motivator, let me tell you. I graduated. Got a decent job, then a better one. worked my way up, paid off those loans, including the one Aunt Carol helped me with. Sent her flowers every year on my graduation anniversary. I built a life. A good one. All on my own, no thanks to them.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Fast forward about 15 years. I hadn't seen Mom or Dale in ages. A Christmas card here and there, maybe a call on my birthday if she remembered, usually asking for an update like she was conducting a survey. I kept it brief, polite, distant. They knew I was doing well, and Carol probably let slip a few details over the years, thinking it might make Mom proud or something. Little did she know. Then, about three months ago, the doorbell rings on a Saturday afternoon. I'm not expecting anyone. I look through the people, and my stomach just drops. It's them. Mom and Dale.
Starting point is 00:09:48 standing on my porch. I almost didn't open the door. But I had to open it. Well, look at you, Mom said, beaming like we were long-lost best friends. This place is, lovely. She tried to step in for a hug. I sidestepped. Old reflexes.
Starting point is 00:10:10 What do you want? I asked. No pleasantries. No nice to see you. Dale shuffled his feet. Can we come in, son? It's been a long time. Reluctantly, I let them into the hallway.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Didn't offer them a seat. They looked around, Mom a little too obviously impressed, Dale looking uncomfortable, like he always did when he wasn't in complete control of the situation. So, Mom started, getting straight to it after a few awkward attempts at small talk that I shut down immediately. We hear you're doing really well for yourself. We're so proud. Get to the point, I said.
Starting point is 00:10:54 She exchanged a look with Dale. Then she launched into it. It's the twins, she said, her voice taking on the pleading tone I remembered so well. They're both starting college in the fall. You know how expensive it is these days. I just stared at her. And we were thinking, Dale chimed in, seeing as you're, comfortable.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Maybe you could help them out a bit. For their tuition. You know, family helps family. Family. He actually said family helps family. I felt a laugh, a really ugly one, bubble up inside me. Are you serious? I asked.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Of course, we're serious, Mom said, a little too brightly. They're your brother and sister, after all. That's when I snapped. My brother and sister. I said, my voice rising. The ones whose existence meant I got thrown out on my ass at 16. The ones you prioritized over your own son. That brother and sister.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Mom flinched. Now, that's not fair. We did what we had to do. We were struggling. You were struggling. I almost shouted. I was a kid. You kicked me out.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You told me to go live with my grandparents because you couldn't be bothered. Because I was an inconvenience to your perfect new family. We didn't kick you out. Dale tried, raising his voice a bit. It was a mutual agreement for your benefit. Mutual agreement. My benefit? I laughed then, you think I agreed to be abandoned?
Starting point is 00:12:42 You think it benefited me to work my way through high school? and college, begging for scraps, while you poured everything into them? We always loved you, Mom whispered, tears welling up in her eyes. Crocodile tears. I wasn't buying it. Love? I spat the word out. You call that love.
Starting point is 00:13:04 When I asked you, begged you, for a little help with college, what did you say? Oh, the twins need this, the twins need that. You're resourceful. Figure it out. Remember that, Mom? Do you? She started to sob. We made mistakes.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Mistakes. I was pacing now, no, that wasn't a mistake. That was a choice. You chose them over me, every single damn time. And now, now that I've made something of myself, despite you, despite everything, you have the nerve, the absolute fucking audacity, to come here and ask me for money? For them? They're good kids, Dale muttered, looking at the floor. They deserve a chance. And I didn't. I whirled on him. What about my chance? Who helped me? Not you. Not her. My aunt helped me. My grandparents helped me by giving me a roof over my head when
Starting point is 00:14:09 my own mother threw me out. You two did nothing. Less than nothing. The argument went around in circles. Them trying to guilt-trip me, me throwing their hypocrisy back in their faces. Mom cried harder, saying I was cruel, heartless. Dale tried to play the peacemaker, then got defensive, saying I was ungrateful for the years they did raise me. Ungrateful. I almost lost it then.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Get out, I finally said, my voice horse. Get out of my house. But the money? Mom wailed. Just a little something. Not a dime, I said, ice in my veins. You made your choices years ago. Live with them.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Now get out before I call the cops and have you trespassed. Dale puffed up a bit then. You wouldn't. Try me, I said, staring him down. They left. Mom was still crying, shooting me betrayed look. looks. Dale just looked angry and defeated. I was shaking for a good hour after they left. Not with fear, but with adrenaline and rage. All those years of biting my tongue, of being the resourceful
Starting point is 00:15:27 one, it all just came pouring out. It wasn't pretty, but damn, it felt. Necessary. I didn't hear from them for a few days. I thought maybe they got the message. Stupid, right? Then the phone calls started. Mom, mostly. Crying, pleading, then getting angry, then pleading again. Accusing me of being a terrible son, of abandoning my family. The irony was so thick, I could have spread it on toast. I stopped answering her calls.
Starting point is 00:16:04 She started leaving these long, rambling voicemails. I blocked their numbers. Thought that would be the end of it. Then, about two weeks ago, it escalated. I was at work, in a meeting with my boss and a couple of clients. My receptionist buzzes me, sounding flustered. There's a woman here. She says she's your mother.
Starting point is 00:16:29 She's very upset and demanding to see you. I excused myself, heart pounding. Went to the lobby. And there she was. Looking disheveled, eyes red-rimmed. She started yelling the second she saw me. You can't ignore me. You have to help us. Your brother and sister need you. Right there, in front of my colleagues, reception staff, everyone. I was mortified and furious. I grabbed her arm, maybe a little rougher than I intended, and steered her towards a side conference room. What the hell do you think you're doing? I need to talk to you, she cried. You won't answer your phone and blocked us. This is my job.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You can't just show up here screaming. It was a scene. Security eventually escorted her out. But not before she made sure everyone knew she was my poor, abandoned mother and I was her heartless, wealthy son. My boss was, understanding, outwardly. But the damage was done. That weekend, she showed up at my house. banging on the door, shouting.
Starting point is 00:17:45 My neighbors were looking out their windows. I called the cops. They came, talked to her, told her to leave. She left, but not before screaming that I'd regret this, that I was dead to her. Good riddance, I thought. The next day, Dale's car was parked down the street from my house for a few hours. Just sitting there. Intimidation tactic, I guess.
Starting point is 00:18:11 That was the last straw. I went to a lawyer. I now have a restraining order against both of them. For harassment. It felt surreal, getting a restraining order against my own mother. But what choice did I have? They wouldn't stop. They wouldn't leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They were disrupting my life, my career, my peace of mind. All because I wouldn't cough up cash for the golden children they chose over me. So, here I am. Got a lawyer, got a restraining order. Got a knot in my stomach that won't go away. Ida for telling them to get lost. For cutting them off completely after they abandoned me and then came back begging? I feel like I know the answer, but after the stunt at my office and the constant barrage, my head's a mess.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I just needed to lay it all out. Tell me, am I the asshole for finally drawing a line in the sand? and defending it with legal force. Because right now, despite everything, there's a tiny voice wondering if I went too far, even though every rational part of me is screaming no. Update 1-wow. Okay, first off, thanks to everyone who read my novel of a post and commented. Didn't expect that kind of response.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Most of you have confirmed what I already kind of knew in my gut, but it helps to hear it from outside your own echo chamber of rage, you know. A lot of NTA in some pretty strong language about my mother and Dale, which, not going to lie, was validating as hell. A few people asked some questions, so I'll try to clarify. Some of you asked why my grandparents didn't intervene more with mom. They were old school. They provided for me, gave me a safe place, but they weren't confrontational people, especially with their own daughter. They expressed their disappointment in her, but more through sad.
Starting point is 00:20:09 bad size and shaking heads than actual showdowns. Grandma once told me, she made her bed, son. Doesn't mean we have to like the sheets she picked. They helped me by being stable, not by fighting my battles with her. They passed away a few years after I finished college. Peacefully. I missed them. They were good people caught in a shitty situation.
Starting point is 00:20:35 My aunt Carol was a saint. She really is. She wasn't wealthy by any means back then, but she stretched what she had to help me. She and mom have a strained relationship, and this whole thing hasn't helped. Some apparently called Carol after the blow-up at my house, trying to get her on her side, to talk some sense into me. Carol apparently told her, and I quote, you reap what you sow, sis. He doesn't owe you a damn thing.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So yeah, Aunt Carol is solidly in my corner. We're having dinner next week. Stepdad Dale, what's his deal? He's a classic enabler with a nasty streak of entitlement. Back then, he was all about his new family with Mom, and I was just, inconvenient. He didn't actively abuse me, but he was cold, dismissive, and made it clear I wasn't really part of his family. Now, he's riding Mom's coattails of delusion, thinking they're owed something.
Starting point is 00:21:36 His brief attempt at intimidation by parking near my house was pathetic. He's a coward at heart. The twins, a few asked about them. Honestly, I barely know them. They were little kids when I left. I have no relationship with them. Are they good kids? Bad kids?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Spoiled. I have no idea, and frankly, I don't care. Their mom and Dale's responsibility. not mine. If they're decent, they'll understand why I want nothing to do with their parents. If they're like their parents, then good riddance to them too. Harsh. Maybe. But that's where I am. Reading your comments, especially the ones sharing similar stories, damn, there are a lot of us out there with messed up families, didn't really make me self-reflect in a way that made me question my actions. If anything, it solidified my resolve.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Some of you use terms like financial abuse, emotional neglect, and parental alienation. And yeah, those fit. Seeing it named like that. It takes away that little voice that tries to whisper, maybe you're being too hard. No, I'm not being too hard. I'm reacting to years of being treated like I was disposable. The decision to get the restraining order wasn't easy in an emotional sense. it's a hell of a thing to do to your own mother.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But logically, it was the only step left. They wouldn't stop. I had to protect my peace, there's no decision process about whether or not to help them. That door is welded shut, bolted, and barricaded. The decision process was about how to get them to understand that I mean it. So, after the restraining order was served, and yes, it was officially served by a process server,
Starting point is 00:23:32 which I'm sure was a delightful experience for them, I took a few more steps on advice from my lawyer and some of you. Informed my workplace, I had a formal sit down with HR and my boss. Showed them a copy of the restraining order. Explained the situation, briefly, professionally. They were surprisingly supportive. HR has flagged my name with security, and they know to call the police immediately if either mom or Dale show up. It was embarrassing, but necessary. Two, home security, upgraded my home
Starting point is 00:24:08 security system. More cameras, better sensors. Feels like overkill, but after Dale's little drive-by, I'm not taking chances. Three, documentation, my lawyer advised me to document everything. Every attempted contact, every weird car sighting, anything. So, I've got a little bit of black book now. Feels like I'm a damn spy, but if they violate the order, I want the proof. 4. Blocked on social media, proactively, I don't use it much, but I made sure they, and any known flying monkeys, are blocked on every platform. Not that they were trying to contact me there, but just closing all avenues. Since the restraining order was served about a week and a half ago, it's been, quiet. No calls, obviously, their numbers are blocked, but they could try from others,
Starting point is 00:25:04 no unannounced visits. Dale hasn't been seen lurking. It's the calm after the storm, I guess. But it's a tense quiet. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. People like them, with that level of entitlement and delusion, they don't just give up, do they? Maybe the legal papers finally scared them straight. I don't know. Aunt Carol said Mom called her again after getting served. Apparently, Mom was hysterical, then furious, then played the victim, saying I was trying to destroy her. Carol said she told Mom, you're destroying yourself. He's just protecting himself from you. God, I love that woman. According to Carol, Mom then started wailing about how nobody understands and how the twins will be devastated they can't go to their dream colleges.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Carol just hung up on her. So, for now, there's a fragile peace. Or at least, a lack of open warfare. I'm not relaxing. I'm still looking over my shoulder a bit. But it's better than it was. Thanks again for listening to my rant and for the advice. It's weirdly comforting to know you're not alone in this kind of craziness.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'll update again if anything significant. happens, like if they actually respect the restraining order long term, or, more likely, if one of them does something stupid and ends up with more legal trouble. For now, I'm just trying to get back to my life. Update 2, all right, it's been a couple of months since my last update. About three months since the restraining order was served, to be exact. A lot of you asked for a follow-up, so here it is. Grab your popcorn, because this chapter had a bit of a dramatic
Starting point is 00:26:54 climax, though maybe not the one I was expecting. So, for about the first six weeks, there was nothing. I almost started to think that maybe, the legal papers had actually done the trick. But the threat of actual consequences had penetrated their thick skulls. I even started to relax a tiny bit. Then, about a month and a half ago, I'm leaving work. It's evening, getting dark. I get to my car in the parking garage, and as I'm about to unlock it, I hear, you can't do this to us. My blood pressure spiked to Mars. It was Mom. She darted out from behind a concrete pillar, looking, unhinged. Eyes wide, hair a mess, clothes ruffled like she'd been sleeping in them. Hell was nowhere in sight, thank God. Mom, you can't be here, I said, trying to keep my voice steady,
Starting point is 00:27:50 already reaching for my phone. There's a restraining order. You know that. I was consciously trying to keep my distance, remembering every horror story about row violations. A piece of paper isn't going to stop me from talking to my own son. She shrieked, taking a step towards me. We're ruined.
Starting point is 00:28:12 The twins. Their future is ruined because of you. They can't go to college. Your friends are all. all going, and they're heartbroken. That's your problem, Mom, not mine, I said, backing up slowly. You made your choices. Now you need to leave. Right now. My fingers were dialing 911. She lunged then. Not like a full-on tackle, but she grabbed for my arm, you owe us. After everything I did for you when you were little. You were my world. You threw me out.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I yelled back, pulling my arm away. She stumbled. You threw me out, and now you're harassing me. This is over. It's not over until you help us. She screamed. People were starting to notice. A couple walking to their car stopped and stared. This was escalating fast. Just then, a security guard for my office building, who must have been alerted by someone or seen her lurking on the cameras. Thank God for HR and their vigilance, came running. Mom turned on the guard. He's my son. He's trying to destroy his family.
Starting point is 00:29:31 The guard was firm. Ma'am, the police are on their way. You need to come with me. She started to cry then, those sobs I knew so well. No one understands. I'm a good mother. He's cruel. He's heartless. She actually tried to sit down on the ground, like a toddler having a tantrum. The police arrived within minutes. It was a scene. Her, wailing, accusing me. Me, standing there, phone still in hand, trying to look calm while my insides
Starting point is 00:30:08 were churning. I showed them the restraining order. They talked to her. She was still ranting. Because she was actively violating a court order, and given her previous trespassing at my workplace, which was in the report, they didn't just warn her this time. They arrested her. Put her in handcuffs. Read her her rights. She was screaming about injustice, about how I was a monster. It was surreal, watching my own mother get put in the back of a police car.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Dale showed up at the station later, apparently frantic after she called him from her one phone call. My lawyer was there with me, as I had to give a statement. Dale tried to approach me in the waiting area. You did this. You happy now? She's a mess. My lawyer stepped in. Sir, you need to stay away from my client.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You are also named in the restraining order. Any contact could be seen as a violation. violation. Dale looked like he was about to explode, but he backed down, muttering under his breath. Mom was charged with violating a restraining order and, I think, resisting arrest because she apparently gave the officers a hard time. She spent the night in jail. Dale bailed her out the next morning. The fallout from that was significant. Her arrest made it real for them, I think, in a way the paper order hadn't. According to Aunt Carol, who got an earful from a hysterical Dale, who then got an earful from Carol about enabling
Starting point is 00:31:45 mom's behavior, Mom completely fell apart after that. Not in A. I realize I was wrong way, but in a my life is over, woe is me way. The court date came a few weeks later. My lawyer represented me, I didn't have to be there, thankfully. Mom pleaded no contest or something like that. She got a fine, mandatory counseling, doubt that'll do any good, and the rest of straining order was reinforced with even stricter terms and a warning that another violation would mean guaranteed jail time, no questions asked. Since then. Utter silence. Dale, according to Aunt Carol,
Starting point is 00:32:24 who is my only remaining, albeit reluctant, conwood to that drama, is apparently trying to pick up the pieces. The twins did not go to their dream colleges. They're apparently going to community college and working part-time, which, frankly, is what most normal kids do when mommy and daddy can't or won't foot an enormous bill. Maybe some good will come of it for them, maybe they'll learn the value of a dollar, something their parents clearly never taught them in relation to me. Aunt Carol said mom is subdued, depressed. Apparently, the shame of being arrested and the reality of the legal consequences finally hit her. She's not ranting in anymore. She's just broken. Dale is apparently trying to keep things together, but he's also
Starting point is 00:33:14 facing the reality that their golden retirement plan, i.e., me, has evaporated. Do I feel bad about any of this? About her arrest? About her being broken? No. I don't. That might sound harsh to some, but she brought every single bit of this on herself. She made choices, dead. decades of them, that led directly to that moment in the parking garage and the back of a police car. I simply reacted to her actions. I protected myself. If she's broken, it's because her delusions finally shattered against the brick wall of reality. So, I believe that's the saga. The restraining order is in place and has, so far, been effective since the arrest. I've changed my phone number, just for good measure.
Starting point is 00:34:05 My workplace is aware and vigilant. My home security is top-notch. I want to thank everyone again for reading, for your support, for your advice. It meant a lot during the worst of it. I don't anticipate any more updates on this front. If Mom and Dale have learned anything, it's that I will not back down, and the law is on my side. If they haven't, well, the consequences for them will only get more severe. This is probably my final post on this matter.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It's time for me to fully move on and enjoy the life I built for myself, free from their drama and their demands. It's been a hell of a ride, and not one I'd wish on anyone. But it's over. Thanks for everything.

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