Reddit Stories - My SIBLING has been TORMENTING my SISTER since we were young but my

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #siblings #familyissues #bullying #childhoodtrauma #conflictresolutionSummary: My SIBLING has been TORMENTING my SISTER since we were young but my efforts to intervene ...have been unsuccessful. I am torn between loyalty to my sibling and protecting my sister from further harm. Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, siblings, familyissues, bullying, childhoodtrauma, conflictresolution, loyalty, protection, intervention, relationships, personaldevelopment, communication, support, mentalhealth, emotionalwellbeing, siblingrivalryBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hope you enjoy this story. My sibling has been tormenting my sister since we were young, but my guardians always labeled it as jokes and justified his actions, so when my sister became engaged she didn't invite him to her wedding. So, my 37F, brother Mike 35M, is a knob. Always has been and always will be. He has been babid to the point of uselessness by our mom and dad, and that's made him an entitled slob.
Starting point is 00:00:26 When he was younger, he showed Promise playing rugby, which had my mom and dad believing he was going to be a superstar. The problem was, though, that he never had the work ethic to fully fulfill his potential. However, this meant that he was the golden boy of the family and he could do wrong in my parents' eyes. He was a bully at school, which they brushed off as other kids making up lies, but he was an even bigger bully at home to our younger sister Kelly 31F. He would constantly prank here, which basically meant he would do anything he could embarrass her,
Starting point is 00:00:58 including things like pulling her dress up in front of the whole family at a wedding when she was 15. Mom and Dad just said it was siblings being siblings, but the rest of the family were mortified by his behavior. I did try and stick up for my sister and it worked to a certain extent, but after I went to away to uni, there wasn't much I could do as mom and dad just don't listen to anyone. It got so bad that when she was 18, my sister gave up going to her dream university, St. Andrews, and instead moved to London to go to the Imperial College London. This was a huge shock to all of us as she had been talking about St. Andrews since she started high school at 11. When I asked why, she said that St. Andrews was too close to home and she
Starting point is 00:01:40 would be expected to go back home more often, but if she went to London she would only have to go home for Christmas. This broke my heart. After she left, she did exactly that. The only time she was home was Christmas and when I got married. This really annoyed mom and dad as they said she was abandoning the family. I kept my mouth shut and just let them whine occasionally as I didn't want an argument. After graduating from uni my parents expected her to move back home, but she didn't. She got a job working in Southern England and stayed down there. We are from Scotland for reference.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Six years ago, Kelly met a great guy, Jake 30M. The day she met him she called me gushing about him and I've honestly never heard her speak about anyone the way she does him. I've met him several times when I've gone down to visit Kelly and he's great. Good looking, funny, great job, his family are lovely and most importantly, he treats Kelly like she hung the moon. It's very cute. After she met him, she cut down how much she came home even more as she spent the first Christmas with his family and then the pandemic happened so she ended up not coming home for three years. Her first Christmas home Mike started his usual bullshit, trying to be their center of attention. When it didn't work out as well as he wanted,
Starting point is 00:03:00 as most of the family were more interested in getting to know Jake, he then tried to prank Kelly. He got a big bowl of water and was going to pour it over her. Jake saw what was happening and stepped in front of Kelly telling Mike to not even think about it. Side note, Jake is six feet three and has been doing martial arts since he was four, so he can be very intimidating when needed. Mom and Dad tried to play it off as a harmless prank, but Jake was having none of it. Mike started whining about it just being a prank and Jake told him that if he pranked Kelly one more time, he would prank Jake by putting his foot up his arse and his fist down his throat. Kelly and Jake left about an hour later, but after that Mike, Mom and Dad all had an issue with Jake.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Kelly hasn't been back home since. That leads us to now, Kelly and Jake are getting married. They sent out invites in February for August. However, they didn't invite Mike. Mum and dad are obviously incensed by this and had a huge argument with Kelly. They threatened not to go, and Kelly just said no problem she would get Granddad to walk her down the aisle. I went around to their house on Saturday with my kids. Immediately my mom started complaining about Kelly and the wedding. I sat and listened for a while before it had enough.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I asked her what did she actually expect. Her and dad have allowed Mike to be the golden child and get away with everything. Because of that, he can't keep a relationship, due to him thinking everyone should do everything for him. He can't hold down a job because every job is beneath him and he's still living at home with zero prospects in life. The manchild is a bully who I don't trust to be around my children unsupervised. He bullied Kelly for most of her teen years and her only escape was to move over 400 miles away and never come home. My mom got very quiet and then asked me to leave. A few hours later my dad called going mad because I'd upset my mom and was taking the side
Starting point is 00:04:59 of ungrateful little girl instead of my parents who gave me everything. This started a huge argument between me and him where I told him he'd been a crap dad to Kelly and didn't deserve to walk her down the aisle. I've just had enough, but now I've got extended family members telling me I've gone too far as my mom is barely speaking to anyone and keeps crying. My granddad said it was about time I told them off, but my grandma is upset by all the arguing. So Ada for telling my parents that they sucked a parents and deserved to be kicked out of my sister's wedding? Update, hi-a-all, that post took off a lot more than I thought it would. There was way too many comments for me to respond to, but I tried to read every one of them.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I was asked for an update, so here it is. There were a few things that came up repeatedly, so I'll address them first. The pranks only started after I had left and gone to uni. He would say things to Kelly and I would have a go back at him when we were younger, but it wasn't anything more than that until after I'd left home so there wasn't anything I could really do to stop it. I did speak to our parents, but they're useless. Second thing was about my kids.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I didn't bring my kids around them very much as they didn't like going to my parents' house. They said it was boring and they don't like Mike. However, after all the comments I got about this, I sat them down and asked them again. For my daughter it really is just that she finds it boring and says that Mike is a weirdo. My son, however, said that he doesn't like being around my dad as he keeps trying to make him play rugby. I have heard these comments and told my dad to drop it, but he would still make the comments occasionally. I had no idea that it was upsetting my son though, so this surprised me. My son doesn't like sports, be it watching or playing.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He's very much like his dad in that regard. He's a Pokemon kid, playing online and goes every Thursday evening to play in a tournament at our local card shop, so rugby is an absolute no-go for him. The third thing was about security at the wedding. I spoke to Kelly and Jake and Jake said that two of his groomsmen are police officers who are aware of the situation, so that won't be a problem. Lastly, there was a lot of comments about Mike being the Golden Child. For a bit more backstory, he wasn't really the favorite until his talent and rugby came to light.
Starting point is 00:07:20 After that, he was special and had to be treated that way. I think he was seen as mom and dad's way of being special themselves within the family as they had such a super talented child. Anyway, today, I decided to sit down with my parents and tell them I needed a break from them. When I got there my dad immediately wanted me to apologize to my mom, but I said that wasn't going to happen. There was a bit of back and forth between him and I, until my mom stepped in and asked why I was there if not to apologize. I told them that I'd spoken to Kelly and she didn't want them at the wedding at all, that they needed to stay away and respect her decision.
Starting point is 00:07:58 They weren't happy but said they wouldn't go where they weren't wanted. I then told them I wanted space until after the wedding as I couldn't keep being a around them and keeping my mouth shut. I thought that space would be good for all of us. My mom wasn't happy and started on about seeing my kids. I told them the truth. My kids hated coming to their house and told my dad exactly why my son doesn't want to be around him. He got upset by this and said that rugby would be good for him. I shut that down and said I'm not going to force my son to do something he does want to and something I know he will hate. I also told him that if I hear him mention it around my son again, then he won't see my son again.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Right now they will only be seeing my kids at family events, so I'm hoping that it won't be a problem. I then asked them what their long-term plan was with Mike. Are they going to keep things the way they are until their 90 and mom will still be making his all his meals? What happens when they're gone? Who will look after him because it won't be me? What happens if they get ill? Who will look after them? Mike is incapable. Kelly lives down south and I plan on moving back to my husband's hometown three hours away once the kids have left home, so I can't do it. They just looked at me blankly. I really don't think that they had ever even thought about any of that before. I told them they had set Mike up to fail
Starting point is 00:09:21 and now they needed to deal with it. I also told them I knew that they were leaving everything to him in their will, but that with how they have babed Mike, he would blow through that money in less than a year and then what? I could see the panic in my mom's eyes when I said that. She either hadn't thought about it or she thought I would look after him, which she now knows isn't going to happen. I also think she was shocked that I knew about their will. After me telling them what low contact with me was going to look like going forward and them not being happy about it, I left. Hopefully I've given them a lot to think about. I will check in with them from time to time, but that's all right now. I'm going to visit
Starting point is 00:10:01 Kelly in the next couple of weeks, so I'm looking forward to that. My extended family have also backed off after I sent them all a text saying if they were so concerned about my mom then they could be her support system and deal with Mike the same way Kelly and I have had to for years. Not surprisingly, none of them wanted to. Otherwise, I'm going to just try and get on with things as normal. Thanks for the NTA verdict and all the advice, it opened my eyes to a few things that I'd been brushing off. Next story, found out my female co-workers made a group chat ranking all the guys at work by how hot they are, but they left me off the list completely even though they included delivery guys who just dropped things off at
Starting point is 00:10:39 our store. So here's the deal, I-21M, work at a store part-time while I'm attending classes. There are a total of 21 of us who work at this store, 13 girls, eight guys, and we're all around the same age. We have a pretty good working atmosphere, no open hostility so far I know and everyone gets along well, and jokes around with everyone. Though I will say, the guys and girls do tend to stick together more. As for me, I'm fairly well-liked by everyone, I try and be pleasant to everyone I work with because who needs an asshole co-worker? Unfortunately, here's where things go bad. One of the guys who work as Chris 23M is dating one of the girls in the store Ashley 21F. Chris was apparently BSing on her phone when he came across the girls' group chat.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He said it was mostly girl talk, but he found a list ranking all of the guys in the store by their hotness. He had a laugh about it and screenshoted it to send to our group chat. Everyone saw it and had a laugh at the rankings, the guy at the top Chad 22M, kept sending crown emojis. Then everyone noticed I wasn't there, I didn't look at the chat till later since I was with my parents at the time and had it on mute. When I saw I wasn't on the list it was like I was slapped across the face.
Starting point is 00:11:57 and the worst part of this? The list was out of ten, and they included the three delivery guys who drop off stuff and some of the girls flirt with. This crushed me, in a way I don't think I've ever been crushed before. It's like, damn, I'm that much of a hideous monster that I'm not worthy of being ranked. I spent the rest of my day being miserable, and not talking to anyone. When I wasn't responding to the chat, the guys all tried to hit me up individually, but I didn't respond. I looked into the chat and the guys were starting to be pissed on my behalf, which I definitely didn't want.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I decided to call in sick the next day, and when I didn't show up apparently it all came out into the open. The girls at the store started messaging me, apologizing to me and making all kinds of excuses. Quite frankly, I didn't care. I decided to face the music the next day and suck it up at work. When I walked into work, the atmosphere was a lot more tense than it usually was. Becky 23F, who is the assistant manager and was on the group chat pulled me to the side and asked if we could talk, I said okay.
Starting point is 00:13:06 She apologized on behalf of everyone in the chat and said that the list was not serious. It was girl talk and not meant to be seen outside the chat. She said that everyone, especially the women at the store like me for far more valuable things than simply how I look, and that if it were a list of nicest guys in the store, I'd be number one. I couldn't help but feel like this was damage control and being friends zoned all in one motion. I said, thank you, but I'm past it and I don't want anyone's pity and I went about my day. Of course, I did end up getting that pity with a lot of the guys coming over to talk to me, and some of the girls as well. I got so fed up I went to the manager and asked to go home early.
Starting point is 00:13:48 She agreed because she kind of knew what was going on. This was all about five days ago and since then everyone at the store has been trying to get me to talk, but I haven't gone back. I don't want pity and I don't want sympathy. If they think I'm ugly, then fine, but don't try and justify it, or make me feel better about it. The reason I'm here is because I need advice on how to navigate the situation at my job and with my friends. How do I tell everyone to basically leave me alone and not pity me? Because honestly I'm leaning towards just quitting. Hey everyone I'm reading your comments and I thank everyone for their input. The tough love and all.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I just wanted to pop in here and say one thing. I didn't feel entitled to them thinking I was hot. I don't feel entitled to sex or whatever from them. I'm not a nice guy or an in-cell. The reason I was upset is because them leaving me off the list for relative strangers felt pretty cruel and messed up. I don't know how to describe it. Like it guess it sucks I'm not attractive to them, but being left off entirely felt like a step too far. Update 1, hey everyone, I'm back and boy do I have an update for you.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I can't believe this situation exploded so much, there was a fight, arrests and I think someone might be getting divorced. Okay, not really. People wanted to know how I was doing, so I decided I'd just make an update. I just wanted to clear up a few things. First, I didn't care necessarily if they found me ugly or whatever, I just felt like being left off the list was a deliberate slap in the face. I didn't, or don't feel entitled to anything.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Next, the manager of the store barb was not involved in the group chat in any way. She's a 38-year-old married woman with two kids who is far too busy trying to get us to stop smoking weed behind the store on our breaks. What I meant to say is that she was made aware of the situation after it was brought to her attention. Third, I wasn't aware of the list right away. I was with my parents and wasn't paying attention to the chat. Now, after reading the comments on the first thread, I decided that while I could be upset that I was deemed unattractive, I probably shouldn't care as much I did. I kind of wanted to discover why not being on the list hurt me so much, so I took my sister's
Starting point is 00:16:07 advice and will be seeking a therapist. Funny enough, my grandpa has a saying that came to mind when reading the comments in the first thread. Whenever my dad or his brothers and sisters would be upset about something, my grandpa would tell them. I didn't get wounded in the Adrong Valley so you could sit there and cry about X. The X could be anything, the point is he was telling them to toughen up. It became a joke among my aunts and uncles that passed down to my cousins. So I could hear my grandpa telling me in head, I didn't get wounded in the Adrong Valley
Starting point is 00:16:40 so you could sit there and cry about some girls thinking you're ugly. And that got me up a bit. I was stilling feeling kind of shitty, but I decided to put on a brave face and tell my manager I'd come in to work the next day after posting the thread. As soon as I walked in, the manager took me to her office and said the owner of the store wanted to see me. I wasn't really worried since I had a good relationship with Carl, who was the owner. Carl, told me he heard about the story and he was sorry about everything.
Starting point is 00:17:09 He said the list was childish and unprofessional and he was sorry I had to take it. time off to deal with it. He said the girls all got a strong reprimand and a stern warning that this wouldn't be tolerated in the future. He also suspended Becky because he said she should have not been in the chat to begin with and if she was, she should stop the list stuff. He also emphasized that he told everyone that he hadn't talked to me yet, and that he wasn't punishing anyone because I asked for it. He also said he'd pay me for the shifts I missed as a bit of compensation for the mental distress. I thanked him and told him I was over it pretty much right away. I just hated having everyone think I needed coddling and wanted everything to cool
Starting point is 00:17:48 down. With that we shook hands and I started my day. Everyone welcomed me back and I said hey to everyone. I went to my locker and found a letter slipped inside. It was a handwritten letter from all the girls. I'll summarize here because the list was long. In it they apologized profusely for the chat and the list. They said that nothing was going to make it right, or make me believe them. But they wanted to say once again, the list was non-serious and meant to be some stupid fun. And no one was meant to see it. They said that they all loved me individually, that I was a good person and that makes me more attractive than most people who are considered hot. Interestingly, they said I was considered cute. Okay, then LOL. I flagged down one of the girls on
Starting point is 00:18:37 shift who I get along with really well, Sam 20F, to tell the group that I accept their apology. I told her to tell them that I got over it pretty much right away, that I just took time off because I wanted the situation to die down and that I didn't take anything personally. Also I told her that I'm sorry that anyone got in trouble, I didn't talk to the Barb or Carl about anything until today. I didn't want this to become an issue at all. Unfortunately, the guys made it an issue on my behalf. Sam apologized. again and told me she'd tell everyone. And that's that. Sorry if this was not the explosive post you all were looking for. I just wanted to get this situation resolved as soon as possible
Starting point is 00:19:18 and put behind me so that I, and everyone else can move on. I am thinking about not returning next semester, however. So thanks all, I appreciate your comments and helping me get through this little episode in my life. Update 2, hey y'all, I thought I'd stop by for a quickish update. I had enough people in my DMs asking me how I was doing and I got sick of responding to everyone individually so I thought I'd do it here since this really didn't warrant a whole new thread. First I'm doing great, therapy has been amazing so far. I even managed to go in person which my therapist says is really rare these days, but now that I'm back in school I'll be doing virtual.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Back to the point, I learned a lot about myself in therapy and I've had my view of the world altered to some degree. It's actually really cool to see the world in a new light. Second, I know this is going to sound cliche as fuck, but I started weight training. I'm not trying to be Chris Hemsworth or something, I just want enough to have some definition and abs. I was always a little skinny, so I'm going for the swimmer's physique. I also got a haircut and changed up my wardrobe some.
Starting point is 00:20:28 All of my clothes except for a few were from high school, so it was time to change it up. No more band shirts and old sweats. Instead I'm trying for a semi-casual look. Or at least that's what my sister thinks I should be doing. Third, as for the store, I quit. I couldn't work there anymore, it would have been just too weird. I finished the semester and got a summer internship. Funny enough, I ran into one of the girls who worked with me at the mall she lives a town over.
Starting point is 00:20:58 She asked if I was still mad about the list and I told her I wasn't an never was. She said they really didn't mean anything by the list and they really did love me and thought I was super nice and I that I was pretty cute. I guess that's a good thing, LOL. It kind of sucks because I was looking forward to being a four-year lifer at the store and hanging out with everyone more, but hey, it is what it is. I'm still really cool with everyone. We hang out all the time and it isn't awkward. So I guess that's it, and if you're still following this post, thanks.

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