Reddit Stories - Pal has never had a PARTNER and CONTINUES to face REJECTION from every

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #relationships #loneliness #rejection #friendzone #datingSummary: Pal has never had a partner and continues to face rejection from every aspect of life.Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, relationships, loneliness, rejection, friendzone, dating, socialanxiety, heartbreak, unrequitedlove, selfesteem, communication, emotionalhealth, copingmechanisms, personaldevelopment, supportsystem, mentalhealth, selfcareBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

I hope you enjoy this story. Hal has never had a partner and continues to face rejection from every lady he encounters, so I shared with him the harsh reality about why no one is interested in dating him, yet now he says I'm just jealous of his success. Yes, this is a long post, but it's a long story. Hear me out. My friend who I'll refer to as Nathan, 25M, has had horrible luck with women for a very long time. He does have a bright future ahead of him, though,

in regards to career. He's just graduated college last year and is currently in law school. However, he's been homeschooled his whole life, and does all his college courses in law school online, not in person, which leads me to this next point. He's never had a girlfriend, never been out on a successful date, is still a virgin and low-key doesn't have many friends in general either, so his social skills are really underdeveloped. His only real socialization was with older people, parents, grandparents, fellow elder people, and me, met through family friends, so he was kind of raised very, sheltered and doesn't have anything in common with anyone his own age, let alone women his own age. To top that all off, he's been nothing but super focused on school

and being the best student he can be so grades were his number one priority during his developmental years which there isn't anything wrong with that, however he never took a break to live life or have any experiences in life. Nathan has had multiple girls his family introduced him to starting in 2021 all the way till now and they've been trying to get them to give him a chance but they end up just not liking him. I really hate to not be on his side and support him through his constant rejections from multiple girls but it's gotten to a point where all these girls have the same complaints about him. Nathan's about 5 feet 2 inches and bodywise very skinny slash petite built.

He is also starting to bald and has no. bodily strength whatsoever either. He starts shaking just from holding a grocery bag. I hate to sound rude but the truth is the truth. He is built like a little girl and has the hairline of a father of three. While I understand height can't be changed and not necessarily his hair either, he can at least start working out and possibly add some weight slash muscle to give him some manly appearance so I mentioned him doing this with me in general conversation with him. Whenever I go to the gym I tell him to come join me as a hobby or just to be my gym buddy. He declined numerous times and the one time he did go, he struggled lifting a 10 pounds weight so he stopped going.

Okay, whatever. The way Nathan dresses is very grandpa vibes, tucks in shirt, dress pants slash slacks and dress shirts on an ordinary day, etc. I asked him why doesn't he dress more comfortable every day, like a jogging outfit, a hoodie, some jeans slash sweats and that he should wear sneakers instead of Freddie Benson dress shoes every day. He doesn't think anything's wrong with how he dresses, and he wants to look professional since he's going to be an upcoming lawyer one day. I explained to him lawyers dress in suits and ties, not tucked in button-up flannels. And they also don't dress like that every day either, just when they're on the job. Sadly, he wasn't having it. Then it finally hit me, it's his damn person or the lack of it. See, I'm not trying to talk down on him, but if we're going to go by

objective reality, he has the personality of a brick. I've seen with my own two eyes how he talks to girls, how he acts on dates, etc. He cannot make a conversation to save his life. He is not funny either, and has zero charisma. He's a literal mute on all double dates and one-on-one dates he's been on, and it's so painfully awkward to watch. It's not like the girls aren't trying either. I've managed to get him dates, however, they go nowhere due to his sheer lack of confidence, personality, or interest. When he talks to a woman, it's like all that he knows how to talk about is just, school. And if it's not school, it's just radio silence. Or some shit that only boomers would understand or care about. I've also noticed how every time him and I go out somewhere,

and I'm not sure if it's due to his size, he is scared and flinches whenever people walk past us and he's always afraid that doing anything or going anywhere fun or interesting is too wild or dangerous for him, i.e. concerts, bars, amusement parks, etc. So I did it. He whined and wind, kept being full of bitterness, complaints and negativity, talking bad about women and saying they never want good men and they only want players or good-looking tall guys. So I ended up telling him straight out that the reason he doesn't get anywhere with girls is because he's a dork. I told him I don't care if he's a dork since I'm not the one dating him, but that girls crave excitement, fun, or at least someone they can talk to about anything or have fun experiences

with etc. I told him he refuses to change anything physically about himself, and to top it all if he won't even make himself at least interesting or fun to be around and he is completely dull. That is why he can't pull or keep. He then got mad at me and accused me of picking on him and making fun of him, and that I'm holding his life circumstances against him, no public schooling slash socialization, to which I told him I am not and I wish I was just saying nonsense, I am telling him the truth. I explained to him that his lack of social skills and appearance isn't necessarily his fault. However, if someone's giving you advice on what's stopping you from getting where you want to be and how to change it, you should take that advice and quit complaining and just

thinking everyone should accept you as your because newsflash. We all have flaws. I told him that if he wants get somewhere with girls and not have constant competition, then he needs to have something to make up for it. Because there are plenty of lawyers and future lawyers in the world and simply saying I graduated college isn't going to make somebody have a connection or attraction to you. He told me I'm jealous that he's getting somewhere in his life academically, and that other girls are the problem for not seeing his worth and future success and that if that's not enough for them to be with him, then they're the ones not good enough for him. I have not talked to him since then and I refuse to associate with someone who thinks I'm jealous of them for giving

them constructive criticism to a problem they constantly complain about. My dad is saying I'm right but also that it's probably an insecurity on his part and I should apologize and try not to be too hard on him. I feel like I shouldn't be friends with somebody who can't ever see what's wrong with them or accept their flaws without crying about it and blaming others though because that's just plain toxic to me. Ada comments where Op has replied, is there any of your own?

chances that Nathan could be autistic. I'm NGL, I kind of had a feeling for a couple years that might have been his issue especially since mental disabilities run in his family. His brother had down syndrome and passed away. But even then, most autistic people are already kind of aware that they're a little awe from others and simply just need to be told what to do slash not to do in regards to social cues and they grasp onto it quickly. Also, I've met many autistic people who actually had a personality. My friend absolutely refuses to accept that he's kind of a weirdo and that he has none at all, so I'm not sure where that's landing for him.

Comment 1, NTA, like you said, it's not about his past, it's that he doesn't even want to attempt improving himself. Going to the gym doesn't even have to be about working out, it should be about learning to socialize. Maybe he needs to take an art class, yoga class, or something just so he can learn how to talk to people in general before he goes on dates. Oop, I've tried to introduce him to a lot of my friends, you know, so he can try to have a friend group.

He failed numerous times to get along with them due to lack of anything in common or once again, not being able to make a conversation or even say something funny to at least break the ice. He also thinks they're all reckless, dangerous and bad influences because they go to parties and drink here and there. They're literally 25 plus, so I'm not sure what's the big deal if they party or have a beer. Comment two, NTA. But as unrelated practical advice, I think asking him to do things he knows he would not enjoy like concerts and bars is not helpful.

I would encourage him to find and pursue time in a hobby he has any sort of potential interest in. Because then you can talk to other people who also pursue that hobby, which immediately gives you something to talk about. Usually it's not too hard to find a club or group for any potential hobby that exists. This is really helpful for people who are bad at holding conversations. Oop, oh, I've tried that, the thing is he has no hobbies or interests. He's just school, family, school, family and more school. I've recommended hobbies to him, like getting into cars, sports, even video games. All of it is unappealing to him so long as it's something fun and not something to do with being ultra-serious.

Respectful and studying, unfortunately. What kinds of things do Nathan like to talk about? He only likes to talk about boring things or things from hundreds of years ago, he'll talk about war, history facts, evolution slash Viking days, etc. When I say boomer shit, I mean he doesn't watch anything but the news, reads newspapers. I didn't even know they still make them, and only talks about work slash school, plays bingo and gets along only with elders, yes, those could be his hobbies, which I don't have an issue with or care that he's into them. It's just the point that the women I know would be into him and have these same interests, he's not into. He doesn't want a girl in his league. He wants the popular, beautiful, charming women with multiple better options than him, but they also have to be a virgin and have the demeanor of Mother Teresa at the same time. Then when they don't like him or have any of these same interests as him, or he finds out said woman doesn't exist, obviously, he gets all bitter and whiny.

I don't know if he was raised on Disney Princess movies or something but dude doesn't want to live in reality. Update, I just wanted to say that I got in contact with Nathan and apologized to him for being too harsh towards him. I tried explaining to him that even though I was harsh, I was just frustrated and trying to help him since I figured he'd needed someone to be blunt with him, but it wasn't my intention to hurt his feelings or anything. I made sure to express that I do care about him as a person and just wanted to guide him since he seemed lost in the world of dating. He didn't really accept my apology, told me that I'm on the path to being a broke,

loser bum because I'm in a different field than him and he has decided that everything I told him was just out of jealousy and that he thinks. And I quote he is owed the highest form of respect for being a good man who is a future legal representative and since I wasn't giving him that. that we should stop being friends. He also attempted to tell me that I should watch out from disrespecting him because in the future my life will be in his hands and he'll have the power to put me in jail. I assured him that jealousy and the highest form of respect definitely wasn't the case,

LOL, but if that's how he feels then so be it. At least I know I tried and did my part. I also wanted to answer some questions I seen people leave under the OG Post 1. Yes, he is 5 feet 2 inches. Yes, he is very skinny and small. Every physical attribute I've mentioned and described is real. Some people thought I was over-exaggerating or just straight-up lying, but I am not. 2.

For those asking how is he doing college slash law school online, he was studying online classes at University of Florida. As for law school I know which one he is doing but I won't say for privacy purposes. 3. As for why he's been doing nothing but home slash online his whole life, it's because his parents are really overprotective of him. They were consistently worried about school shootings, kidnappers, etc. even to this day. 4. For those asking if his family's religious, yes they are. However mine is too, and many others, this has not stopped anyone from growing into a different or better person nor has it caused me or anyone I know, besides Nathan, to have to have a a one-track mind.

5. For those asking if he is autistic, he isn't diagnosed so I don't want to say yes, but does he exhibit signs of severe autism? Yes, yes he does. The lack of social slash self-awareness was a clear sign for me, but I don't want to label him that if I'm wrong. 6. For those who mentioned how he plans to be a lawyer with no talking slash social skills, I mentioned this to him during our last conversation.

I told him forget about women, and politely explained that he also needs to improve his communication and social skills if he plans to be a lawyer because without that he isn't going to make it very far. He told me he's got it all figured out and as long as he gets that degree, that's all he needs to be ultra successful in law. I told him that's not how it works and you quite literally have to be slightly manipulative and convincing in order to make a name for yourself because what good is your degree if you so. at actually performing your job. He once again tried to tell me that I'm jealous and don't know what I'm talking about. So yeah, after all that I've accepted that our friendship is over and I'm not sure where he's going to land in the future, whether in regards to romantic relationships or his actual career. And I was also the only friend he had so I do wish him the best and hope life doesn't humble him to the point of no return. I don't think he's a bad person,

just out of touch with reality, and I hope that doesn't backfire too harshly on him. Next story, wife told me she took the bus home from work, but my security camera caught her getting out of another man's car, and when I confronted her she kept changing her story before finally admitting it was her male co-worker. A few months ago, I installed a security camera outside our front door primarily for safety, prompted by a shooting in our neighborhood. It wasn't installed out of suspicion towards my wife. About a week ago, my wife came home from work and casually mentioned taking public transit, which is a common mode of transport for her, along with occasional Uber rides if she works very

late. I didn't think anything of it at the time. The next day, while reviewing the camera footage, I was looking to see if a package was dropped off, I saw the video of her arrival from the previous night. The camera captures our front door and part of the street. It showed her walking up to the door, pausing to look across the street, smiling and waving as a car pulled away, and then entering the house. It strongly suggested she had been dropped off. I casually asked her if she had taken an Uber home the night before. She initially insisted she had taken transit. When I mentioned the camera footage, she shifted, suggesting maybe it was an Uber and she had forgotten.

Sensing something was off, I jokingly asked if she typically waved goodbye to Uber drivers from our door-stranded. as they waited for her to get inside. This led to further hesitation before she finally admitted it was a co-worker, the co-worker is a man she has previously mentioned in passing when talking about work or a project she is involved in, who had dropped her off after they both worked late. Naturally, I felt really off. Her story went from transit to maybe Uber I forgot to actually, a co-worker.

I asked if that was the first time he drops her off, she said yes. I pointed out how unusual it seemed to forget being dropped off for the very first time by a co-worker, especially when it wasn't her usual routine. This is when she became defensive, accusing me of calling her a liar and claiming it was just an honest mistake due to being tired. While I tried to accept this, I couldn't shake the feeling that her reaction and multiple explanations were illogical. Unable to let it go, I reviewed the camera footage from the week prior.

What I discovered, she had been dropped off by the same car multiple times that week alone. Expanding my search to the past month's recordings, as they reset monthly, I found this scenario repeated two to three times a week. I also discovered instances where the same car picked her up in the morning, specifically on days when I had left for work early. I confronted her again, stating that the footage showed frequent occurrences of her being dropped off by the same car. She looked like a deer in headlights when I said that.

She downplayed it again, saying it was just her co-worker and I was making a big deal out of nothing. I explained that the hiding and lying about it were what was concerning, not necessarily the act of being dropped off. Why the secrecy if it was innocent? She became defensive again, attempting to turn it back on me by suggesting my checking the footage was obsessive and paranoid. After an hour-long argument, she finally agreed that, yeah, it was weird, I guess, that she hadn't mentioned it. I asked her directly if there was anything romantic or inappropriate going on with this coworker. She denied it, calling me crazy. We have an open phone policy, though I've never felt the need to use it until this point. I asked to see her phone, and she handed it over.

I looked through messages and found nothing that seemed suspicious or indicative of an affair with this co-worker. Despite this, I still have trouble believing her. Her initial lies, the shiftiness, the attempt to blame me for being suspicious, and the eventual half admission have eroded my trust. I also noticed that since the day I found out about the coworker dropping her off, the co-worker has completely stopped dropping her off or picking her up, based on the camera footage. To me, this looks like she warned him or tipped him off on my suspicions. Maybe even meeting further away from the house where the camera can't see. I can't let this go, but I am also confused because, outside of this specific issue and her weird behavior when

confronted, I haven't noticed the typical signs associated with infidelity. She isn't secretive with her phone, she hasn't become distant, and her general behavior hasn't changed in ways that would make me question her fidelity. We are both incredibly busy with demanding jobs and a three-year-old and one-year-old who keep us on our toes, which naturally limits our time together as a couple, but there hasn't been a shift in our dynamic that raised red flags before this. I feel like I'm going insane and I am really struggling to find a logical explanation for this behavior that does not lead to the conclusion that she is cheating on me. I can't discuss this with friends without feeling like I am making her look bad. I'm turning to a little.

anonymous help, hoping for some perspective on whether my reaction is warranted or if I am letting paranoia take over. Update 1. This morning she had a later start to her day, this is not unusual, so I left for work before her. But after dropping the kids off at child care, instead of driving to work, I came back home and parked farther up the street to avoid being seen. When she eventually left the house, she walked up the street and turned on to the main road where she usually catches public transit. I followed at a distance and saw her getting into

his car that was parked there. Up until then, I had held on to a hope that she may have felt uncomfortable about these pick-up slash drop-offs after our conversation, and that she might have found a way to politely end them. But now, seeing her deliberately walk around the corner to meet his car, out of view of our camera, has confirmed that at the very least, my wife is actively collaborating with another man to conceal their interactions from me, her husband. A faithful partner would never need to do something like this. I am heartbroken and shaking with rage, but I won't say anything to her. I am going to hire a pie to find out the full extent of their relationship and then proceed from there. Thank you to everyone who offered their

advice. Update 2, I wanted to share that I have confirmed the I waited outside her office building and saw her leave around 12.30 p.m. with him. They went across the street to get food, then drove to a nearby park and stayed in his car. They ate lunch and chatted, laughed, and made out. Not just kissed. They sat in the car and made out like fucking teenagers. I took a video. Then, they left and went back to work. I don't know how I stopped myself from approaching them and attacking them then and there. The thought of doing something rash and losing my children is probably what stopped me. I am now home and struggling to process what I saw. I feel completely devastated and a profound sense of loss for our family, our children's sense

of security, and my own self-worth. I have never felt so completely hopeless in my life before. I will keep it together and move forward for the sake of my children because they are innocent in all of this. I am currently contacting divorce attorneys and scheduling initial consultations. I do not plan to confront my wife about what I saw until I'm advised by an attorney. I will keep my distance until then. The volume of responses and attention my posts have received is incredibly overwhelming. While I am grateful for the support, reading comments and different opinions while processing the betrayal is too much right now.

At this moment, I am unable to make significant decisions. and will rely on legal advice from an attorney to guide me through the next steps. Thank you to everyone who offered support and advice.