Reddit Stories - Sibling and closest COMPANION covertly schemed to end my RELATIONSHIP with my BETROTHED

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #relationships #familydrama #betrayal #scheming #loyaltySummary: Sibling and closest COMPANION covertly schemed to end my RELATIONSHIP with my BETROTHED, causing heartb...reak and betrayal. Trust shattered, bonds broken, and a web of deceit unraveled in a tale of love and treachery.Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, relationships, familydrama, betrayal, scheming, loyalty, heartbreak, trust, bonds, deceit, love, treachery, sibling, companion, relationship, betrothedBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hope you enjoy this story. Sibling and closest companion covertly schemed to end my relationship with my betrothed so I would reconcile with my former partner. They even welcomed my former partner over because they admired her better. My 29M best friend Jess, 29F, keeps on mentioning my ex, 29F, in front of my fiancé, and I am thinking of cutting her off. I want to know if I am overreacting, or if Jess is in the wrong. For context, Jess and I went to the same high school in the same college. We were friends in high school. However, since we both went to the same out-of-state college, we became best friends since then.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We have always been there for each other during the best and worst times. However, things have always been platonic, and she is more like a big sister to me, who made sure I stay on the right track. I have only been in two long-term relationships so far. One was with my ex Lisa for seven years. We met in college and dated all through our college years. Lisa and Jess also became good friends, two. After college, Lisa and I just grew apart and had different goals in life.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I became boring after college as I was working on my PhD while doing a full-time job. Lisa broke up with me as she wanted to party on weekends while I was home studying. I was heartbroken, but I don't think I ever blamed her or had resentment towards her, as I understood my decisions were selfish and should not hold her back from having the best life. Jess always stood by me and comforted me during that time. Jess and Lisa were good friends and Jess always kept on telling me that Lisa loves me and will be back one day when I am ready. I foolishly held on to that hope and stayed friends with Lisa. That was until I met my fiancé young. After I finished my PhD, I got a nice job in a big tech company.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yang joined our team a year after me. We started going out for drinks and dinner and we started dating seriously pretty soon. We are happy together and financially in a great place. Needless to say, I stopped talking to Lisa after I started dating Yang. I proposed to Yang a year after we started dating and got engaged last year. Jess has been acting weirdly since we got engaged. One of the first things she said to Yang after we got engaged was how I had planned the same thing for Lisa, proposing on a local hiking trail. It was a bit off-putting that she was bringing up Lisa whom I broke up with almost five years ago on such a happy occasion.
Starting point is 00:02:42 However, Yang asked me to not spoil my mood, as she felt Jess was just commenting on how I had that plan in mind for years. Since then, every time we meet, Jess without fail brings up Lisa and how the things I am doing are all the things I had planned with Lisa. This happened when we bought a house, planned for vacations, etc. Jess always starts with some nostalgic story and then brings up how Lisa and I were so happy together. She is still good friends with Lisa and keeps giving me updates about Lisa and how great Lisa is doing at work when no one is asking for it. It felt like she was painting a rosy picture of Lisa to Yang in telling Yang that she would always be second to Lisa. Yang told me Jess's comments bothered her, and I also felt the same. I have brought this up with Jess many times and asked her not to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 However, she says she will try but since I dated Lisa for seven years, she would be part of many stories from the past. Also, she asked me why talking about Lisa bothers me and if I still have feelings for her. I have reduced hanging out with Jess. However, she is close with my mom and is always invited to all our family parties and holidays. I talk to my mom and sister about this and they feel I'm overreacting. They feel Jess is just telling stories and since the stories are mostly from college days and later, Lisa will be a character in the story. They also feel I should not be bothered by Jess mentioning Lisa since we broke up a long time ago. I feel that it's disrespectful to Yang as she doesn't need to hear about all the fun Lisa and I had when we were together and how we were planning to get married.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Do you think I am the asshole to stop here or Jess is truly acting out of line? Update 1, I wrote a post a month ago regarding my friend Jess mentioning my ex constantly in front of my fiancé. Thanks to everyone who commented and how inappropriate it was. However, the last month has been nothing but crazy and I still trying to make sense. of what happened so far. After my post, I decided to talk to Jess and gave her an ultimatum not to speak about my ex-Lisa again. I know Jess and Lisa are still friends, but I was uncomfortable of her comparing my fiancé
Starting point is 00:04:58 young with Lisa all the time. I broke up with Lisa five years ago, and she is nothing but a faint memory in my past. Jess kept on defending herself and telling me that I was with Lisa for most of my adult life and it's hard to tell any stories from the past without including her. She also blamed me for being emotionally childish and just forgetting about Lisa when she was with me for seven years. Finally, Jess agreed that she will not bring up Lisa in front of Yang, and I should also not treat Lisa as she does not exist since she is still Jess's friend.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I informed Yang about our conversation. Although she was appreciative about it, she said I did not need to do it and she knows how much I love her and every time Jess brings up my Lisa, she feels sorry for Lisa that she let a guy like me go. Yang went to visit China two weeks ago for a month as we planned to get married in her hometown. She is taking care of her shopping as well as preparations for the wedding. Jess invited me to her house that Friday for dinner as I was home alone. I am also good friends with her husband, and we were all just chatting and drinking in the living room. Around 7.30 p.m., the doorbell rang, and Jess excitedly went to open the door. To my surprise, it was fucking Lisa at the door.
Starting point is 00:06:16 She was all dressed up as if she were ready for a date and came in. I had not seen her in person for almost three years and I was shocked to see her. She sat down and started making small talk with me. I was extremely uncomfortable and went into the kitchen to talk to Jess. I was angry at her and asked her what was going on. She kept on telling me that it's been five years since the breakup and to get over it and be nice to Lisa. She said Lisa was excited to meet me and she thought we were all adults and could have won fun evening together. We had a fight and I told her that she should not have invited Lisa after our conversation the other day and I do not want to be friends with her anymore. I went into the living room
Starting point is 00:06:59 and politely excused myself and told everyone that I had a work emergency and had to leave early. Lisa looked sad, but I genuinely felt uncomfortable to be made to hang out with. with my ex without my consent. I came home and called Jan. I have never seen her more furious, and she told me she is not comfortable with Jess anymore as she has some agenda that we do not know about. It's different to talk about Lisa, but to invite her without consulting is not okay. I also felt the same and I called Jess the next day and told her that she crossed a line, and I was terribly upset with her. I stopped taking her calls and ghosted her. I also told my mom, and sister about the whole incident.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Last Sunday, my mom called me for lunch. When I got there, I saw Jess was already there. I told my mom that I do not want to talk to Jess and can't stay. However, she asked me to sit as they all wanted to talk to me. I have a glutton for punishment and decided to hear them out. My mom started with how Jess has been there for me all these years and only has my best interest at heart. She kept on telling me that the...
Starting point is 00:08:09 They are the three people, mom, sister, and Jess, that love me the most. Jess started saying how she felt that I was making a big mistake and not having to hear what Lisa had to say. She told me that Lisa was my first love and Lisa is now ready to settle down and we can pick where we left off. She reminded me how broken I was when Lisa left me and how life is giving me a second chance. My sister also chimed in and said how they all liked Lisa more than young and how we both looked so great to do. together. Finally, my mom started saying how our culture was so different than Yang and it is hard for them to relate to her. I asked them in what way, and my mom said that they did not understand what Yang says sometimes and have nothing in common with her. Then my mom asked me
Starting point is 00:08:56 to think about how Lisa and I would have such wonderful-looking kids, while if I marry Yang, our kids will look so different. I started getting their drift and I probed more. My mom told me how our kids would look Asian with small eyes and not like any others in the family. I asked my mom if she cared about my kids looks more and not about how smart they will be since Yang has a PhD. She blew it off, and I realized she just did not want me to marry Yang because she was Chinese and not white. My mom told me to forgive Jess and my mom asked Jess to talk to Lisa on my behalf and asked her if she would be interested in getting back together with me. My mom was adamant that since I loved Lisa so much, I should be happy and pick up things where we left off as that is the best for everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I have never been so angry and may have said a lot of unkind things to all of them before I left. I am so depressed right now. I not only lost my best friend, but also am not sure how I can move on from what my mom said. My mom and sister raised me and that is the reason where I am today. However, I cannot get over how racist they are being and how they were just pretending to like Yang all these years while actively working on breaking us up. I have been so shocked that I have not told any of this to Yang so far. I might wait for her to come back next week and talk to her in person. Again, thanks everyone for all your messages on the last post as they helped me a lot to think through the situation. My life is more fucked up than I could imagine, and I cannot imagine how dejected Yang will feel.
Starting point is 00:10:30 after hearing all this. Update 2, I wrote a post two months ago regarding my best friend Jess constantly bringing up my ex when talking to my fiancé Yang. I wrote an update two weeks ago about my mom, sister and Jess scheming about trying to get me back with my ex Lisa because they were uncomfortable with Yang being Chinese. They tried to do it when my fiancé was visiting her parents and I felt so betrayed by their actions. As I said in a previous post, I blew up on my mom and about what they said and immediately left. I did not take calls from them or answer texts for the next several days. Their messages initially were anger towards me on why I left before they could finish what they wanted to say. However, I think they realized on day three that they might have
Starting point is 00:11:17 crossed the line this time and became extremely apologetic. I finally messaged them to leave me alone and not to contact Yang or I until we contact them. Jess did not message me the whole time. I did not tell Yang about the situation until she came back home nine days ago. I initially did not know how to bring up the subject, but she sensed something was wrong and asked me about it. I was so worried about hurting her, but I told her about what happened. I was up front about the stunt Jess pulled and she was angry at Jess. I also told her about my visit to my mother's place, but she did not react with any anger. She just asked me if I was okay. The next few days were confusing where I was more upset than Jan.
Starting point is 00:12:03 She was just excited showing me all pictures and telling me stories. Finally, on last Thursday evening, she opened up and asked me if I was okay about my mom's behavior and what I planned to do. I told her my thoughts and how I cannot forgive them for what they said about her being Asian and them wanting me to marry Elisa because she was white. I asked her why she was not more upset as it was bothering me. She told me that when she told her parents about me, they had the exact same reaction for her dating someone who was not Chinese. Her family is very traditional and her parents were very upset about her decision. It took them a few months to warm up to me and accept me. She never told me about this because she wanted me to have good relationship with her parents.
Starting point is 00:12:49 She told me that now they are the most excited doing arrangements for our wedding. She told me that she has always felt something was off when she talked to my mom, my sister, or Jess, and they did not like her. My mom and sister would be very friendly with her in front of me, but never invited her for anything when I am not around. She suspected that it may be due to fact that she is not white and does not understand the American traditions. She said she is not upset with them and now that this is in the open,
Starting point is 00:13:18 she should talk to them and assure them that she would be as good of a wife as Lisa or any other girl. She said that she does not want to break a family in order to start a new one. Despite my protests, Yang invited my mom and sister for lunch on Sunday. She said that it would be good for us to talk about everything and hear why they are concerned about her marrying me. I was really not happy with this, but Yang spent most of Sunday morning cooking for them. When my mom and sister arrived, there were a lot of waterworks and apologies. My mom apologized to Yang and me for her behavior and told us that she would never bring it up again. My sister also was quiet and had tears in her eyes. There were a lot of blame games. My mom and my sister were blaming
Starting point is 00:14:05 Jess for constantly telling them how Yang might not be great for me and how she won't fit into our family. My mom and sister fought with Jess after I left and Jess blamed Lisa. Based on Jess's story, Lisa has been depressed for the last few years and when I suddenly got engaged to Yang, it became worse. Jess thought I was also depressed after Lisa left me, because I did not date anyone for three years. In reality, I just wanted to focus on my work and studies and never had time. So, Lisa convinced Jess that she has to get back together with me as that is what I wanted to. Jess said how sorry she felt for Lisa as she was her longtime friend and listened to her plan as she thought it was good for everyone.
Starting point is 00:14:50 My mom and sister told us that I should stay away from Jess because she orchestrated the whole situation. They kept on hugging Yang and apologizing to her. Yang in turn also started crying and telling them that she will do better to fit in with them. It was all a big mess. I am still skeptical of my mom's change in heart, but I also want to see Yang happy.
Starting point is 00:15:13 However, I think it will take a lot of time in healing before I could truly trust my mom and sister. Currently, my mom invited us to lunch at her place next week and told me that Jess will not be there. Jess has still not messaged me or Jan. I really don't know what I can do in this situation. I am still upset and furious at my mom, but I also want to respect Yang's effort to keep the family together. Thanks to everyone for all the messages and supportive comments.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It really helped reading them when I was feeling very sad. Next story, refused to be my childhood friend's bridesmaid after she admitted to cheating, then she told everyone I was in love with her fiancé and now he's been arrested. I, 25F, had been friends with Cammy, 25F, since kindergarten when her family moved next door to mine when we were both six. We have been through everything together and once considered the other as a sister. We both have even moved to the same state to be close to one another. About two years ago, Cammy started dating Andrew, 36M, who I did not like.
Starting point is 00:16:20 He was a lot older than her and just did not seem like the right guy for her. She once asked me what I thought of him at the beginning of their relationship and I told her my opinion of him being too old. But she told me that everything was fine and that age was just a number. I honestly didn't see anything else bad about him, so I eventually learned to let that go, but always had that uneasy feeling about him. him. Eight months ago, Andrew proposed to Cammy and she immediately asked me to be a bridesmaid. I said yes and was happy for her. Her wedding was in late February of this year. In early November, Cammy comes over to my apartment to tell me that she had been actively cheating on Andrew for the past six months with some guy from her work. She told me that Andrew found out and instead of getting
Starting point is 00:17:08 angry with her, asked for her forgiveness and wanted to know as to how he could be a better partner to her because he was failing her. She said the reason she was telling me was to go ahead and get it off her chest before I found out from someone else and thought badly of her. When she told me I could tell she had no remorse and didn't even regret her cheating. I was shocked and asked if she regretted what she did and she said it hurt her to see Andrews so upset. But she explained that things were so hot at work that the tension was too much for her and her coworker to ignore. I told her that I was no longer going to be a bridesmaid and wasn't going to attend her wedding
Starting point is 00:17:44 because I don't associate myself with cheaters and no longer supported her marriage, especially since she did not think what she did was wrong. Cammy got very mad at me and told me off and eventually blocked me on everything. I never explained to anyone about her cheating for my reason as to why I chose not to go and I made sure to not talk bad about Cammy to anyone who asked because I did consider her to be a sister. We have not talked since that day and I know she and Andrew got married. Fast forward to last week and I am out with my BF at a coffee shop where I run into one of Cammy's bridesmaids that is also one of her co-workers. She walked up to me and asked how I was
Starting point is 00:18:23 and I said fine and told her it was good to see her. She then apologized for being too forward, but wanted to know if Cammy and I ever made up after our incident before her wedding. Confused, I asked what the incident was and she eventually told me that Cammy explained to the bridal party that I chose to leave because of my feelings for Andrew and that I couldn't see him get married because of how I felt. I was appalled. Not only did I not have any romantic feelings for Andrew, I never even really liked him. I told the bridesmaid that the reason I left was because of Cammy's affair with her co-worker, who she knows as well because they all work together. When I told her that, The bridesmaid said she remembered Cammy and the co-worker being close, but didn't know about the affair. She left the coffee shop not long after the conversation and I felt guilty about telling her that since I haven't told anyone. My BF says me telling her that makes it look as if I'm trying to hurt Cammy and Andrew, therefore making it seem as if I do like Andrew. I'd have her for telling her that. I don't know if she told Cammy I said that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And I don't know how Cammy and Andrew are doing. But I do feel bad that I shared her business to someone she works with. Update 1, April 5, 2025. I feel like whenever I post on here something immediately happens resulting in an update Cammy's other bridesmaid, who I saw at the coffee shop, reached out to me last night through Facebook. I'll call her Jenna. Guess whose mugshot was posted on our local news site? Andrew.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I won't exactly say what he did, but it involves his work computer. personal computer and phone. So you can make your assumptions from that. Cammy reached out to Jenna a few nights ago crying saying that Andrew had been arrested while on shift because of what the IT guy found on his work computer. Jenna decided to tell me because Cammy mentioned to her how I always felt uneasy about Andrew and how she should have listened. Jenna asked Cammy why would I because I was so in love with him and that's when Cammy came
Starting point is 00:20:29 clean and told her about the lie and about her affair with her co-worker. Cammy went on to explain that ever since her and Andrew married, Andrew became very physical with her because of her affair. He waited until there was a ring on her finger to really tell her how he felt about the cheating. I asked Jenna if Cammy said anything about still seeing the co-worker while they were married, and Jenna said Cammy is still seeing him, but swears it's just friendship now. That's why Andrew was so upset with her. Jenna did admit to me that she told Cammy she saw me the other day, which made Cammy ask if she'd think I'd be willing to talk to her. Jenna told her that she didn't know, but could try to see what would happen.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Cammy hasn't reached out to me yet and I don't know if she will. I don't know what I will do if she does. But that's the update about her for now. I've noticed there were a few people in my last post talking about my BF's response. To let you know I did ask him about it and he said he was more well. worried about how it made me look in that moment. I'll accept that answer for now, but if he acts up, I will definitely think about things. So far he's been great. But that's it hopefully. I'll probably update if Cammy ever reaches out, but I'm kind of hoping she doesn't. Update 2, April 16th,
Starting point is 00:21:50 2025. Cammy reached out to me. I was starting to think she wasn't going to, but she texted me last night asking if we could talk. I responded, is this about your husband being in jail? And she immediately called me. She was crying. She kept saying she had no idea Andrew was like that and wished she paid more attention to how I felt about him. I told her that I had no idea he was doing that and am sorry for how he was.
Starting point is 00:22:20 She said something about being a hot divorcee and a few other things about this finally freeing her as if she wasn't actively cheating on Andrew throughout most of their relationship. She then asked how I was doing. She didn't even apologize for spreading that lie about me liking her husband. I asked if we were going to talk about what she said to the bridal party about my absence. She paused, laughed, then asked me if I was really upset over something that wasn't as bad as what Andrew ended up doing. I just hung up. I probably wouldn't have if I didn't read your comments on my last update saying not to give her the time of day, and you all were right. She does not care about me after all we've been through together.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I blocked her number so I don't know if she tried to reach out again, but I'm done. But that's the update.

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