Reddit Stories - SISTER'S partner EXCLUDED me from their marriage CELEBRATION as I declined to partake

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #weddingdrama #familyconflict #siblingrivalry #exclusion #relationshipissues  Summary: The author recounts feeling excluded from their sister's marriage celebration af...ter declining to participate. The situation raises questions about family dynamics, loyalty, and the impact of personal choices on relationships. The author seeks advice on how to navigate the emotional fallout from this exclusion.  Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, wedding, family, exclusion, relationships, drama, advice, conflict, emotions, loyalty, siblings, celebration, personalchoices, feelings, support, understandingBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6816713/support.This episode includes AI-generated content.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Episode with two stories, first part. I hope you enjoy this story. Sisters partner excluded me from their marriage celebration as I declined to partake in a religious ritual. When our elder sibling supported me, my sibling confronted him. I, a 31-year-old woman, have three brothers, aged 40, 38, and 27. And we have a good relationship despite the age gaps between some of us. My older siblings are both married and so am I. The wedding in question is my younger brothers. My younger brother Luke is engaged to his GF of a year Emma, 28F. She is nice I guess we have never really clicked and are just polite to each other. Something important is that we are all Catholic, but not really hardcore ones and some of us are even lapsed.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I do believe this whole situation started just when I met her for the first time. I look younger than Luke and it has always been a sibling joke that I am truly the baby of the family. Most people that meet us assume he is older than me but nobody has had issues with it until Emma. The day I met her she kind of scoffed when I said I was happy the baby had a proper girlfriend. She has this weird thing about being the eldest in her family and refused to believe I was older than her until I showed her my ID. She has been hot and cold with me since then, often in fanalizing me or trying to have a sort of boss attitude. I just let her be in you. I just let her be in usually ignore her since I have no time to try and beg for her friendship so I am just polite and
Starting point is 00:01:28 civil, always include her when planning stuff but don't really make an effort. The family knows about it, but we just shrugged it to different personalities. Then the wedding planning started. Emma decided I could not be in the wedding party since I was not married in a church, fine by me. Then she requested that immediate family submits their dress planning so she could check it fits the wedding dress code, fine whatever. You see where this is. going, I hope. You'll see I have not gone to confession or have communion in more than a decade. If I go to a Mass for whatever reason I am respectful and simply sit or stay standing during the rights I don't participate on. Well, this is not good enough for her and she says I need to take
Starting point is 00:02:09 communion during there I said no and she has not taken it well. For the most part one avoid her as I said before but this time I wasn't going to say yes or risk an issue. I told her for taking communion one needs to go to confession and I didn't want to. She said all immediate family is doing it and it will look bad if I don't. I told her sure fine. Then I'll just go F communion in front of everybody but won't do confession. She said if this was going to be my attitude I was uninvited from the wedding because I clearly wanted to ruin the day for her. I turned to my brother and told him, thanks gave him a thumbs up and went home. My family understand my reasoning and said they respect everybody's choices, but I shouldn't have said what I said. I told them I really don't want
Starting point is 00:02:53 to go to the wedding anymore and I don't owe Emma explanations on my life. I only called my grandma because she heard what happened and asked me not to disrespect the church by doing the communion without confession. I promised I wouldn't do it and she is fine with me now. I got a text from my brother wanting to compromise, so I replied by asking if the other lapsed people are being made to take confession too? He said no because it was only nuclear family members. I find it funny since all the others are clearly older than her and she just behaves like this with me and the youngsters. Ada? Comments where Op has replied. Lucky effective 1564. NTA who died and made Emma Pope. Goop. L.O.L. I will share this particular one with my grandma next time we talk. She is gonna love it.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Report 58, you should alert the priest to her behavior. He will ensure that she stops with her actions. She cannot make rules that do not exist in the church. I would send a quick email to him and let her deal with the consequences of her own actions. Oh, O.P, I actually considered it, but I don't think I will since my grandma might be doing it herself. She has lapsed herself but didn't want me to be disrespectful, but she knows the priest that will be officiating and is not really happy with all the shit show. Update 1, October 26th, 2024. Things have moved but I wouldn't call any of this a positive progress. I would like to clear something I kept seeing in the comments. I won't request a special blessing or go in the queue for communion. It isn't about the blessing or the compromise,
Starting point is 00:04:31 but the singling me out. I often just stay quiet or take a general family blessing if we go to weddings, etc. I have no issue with compromises. I have an issue with Emma and her ridiculousness. I don't know why she has this thing with me, I do look young but not like a teen or a child obviously. She has two younger sisters and is very authoritative with them. I have witnesses her being very my way or the highway with younger people so she has issues for sure. The confrontation from the last post was on Tuesday and today we had lunch at my grandmas. I think you should also know that my brothers have a tricky relationship, as in they are not as close with each other as they are with other siblings. My older brother Robert is very no-nonsense and he has never been a fan of
Starting point is 00:05:17 Emma but he didn't think he should have to intervene because Luke is an adult and capable of navigating relationships. All this is going to be relevant, I promise. We visit Grandma a lot since she lives by herself and we truly enjoy her company. Today we were all there because she is over this drama already. After a lunch, that was more like Snobes. to be honest, she asked us all to clear the air. Emma continued with her rant about me being a disrespectful person and that she was asking the bare minimum for me. My grandma asked her why she had no issue with her not taking communion and Emma said that she was her elder and for sure her reasons were more than a tantrum like it was in my case. She also repeated that she was
Starting point is 00:05:57 asking this of all the siblings and I was the only one that was being difficult with her tiny request. This is where everything crumbled for her. I mentioned in the comments that Robert is also lapsed and he was already exhausted by this situation. He asked her why she had no issues with him not taking communion and she looked like a kid that was caught. She didn't have a proper answer. Robert then asked her if she even knew why he and Grandma became lapsed. She shook her head and looked at Luke for help. Luke on the other hand was staring angrily at Robert and I but said nothing. Robert explained to Emma he was the reason Grandma became lapsed. When Robert was a teen he came out as gay and was so worried about our grandparents' reaction since they were very active in the Catholic
Starting point is 00:06:41 Church. Grandma felt awful about it and even worse when she went and spoke about this with the then priest of her church. That priest was super old school and told her that Robert was committing sins, he was going to hell, he needed to find his way, the whole nine yards. Grandma didn't take that so well and simply stopped going to church and started spending that time with her grandchildren. Over the years she started getting into the whole community again, but she decided she was done taking the sacraments. She respects parts of the church, but can't fully reconcile with it. Emma was a bit confused since Robert is married to a woman and he explained he is bisexual and ended up with a woman just as he could have ended with a man. He also commented they are
Starting point is 00:07:23 not married in the church, but that didn't matter to her like it mattered when it came to me. He asked her directly what was her problem with me. Long story short, she said I was rude since the beginning and kept treating Luke wrong. Oh, and I also was very snarky about looking younger than her. Crickets. She is a beautiful, successful woman, so I still don't understand her obsession, but it seems like she wants people to see I respect her and what she says. I just started laughing, she started crying and saying I turned my grandma against her. My grandma told her to stop blaming people for her being a negative person and she was always going to side with me over her. Luke got upset at that and asked her why she was not supporting him and she
Starting point is 00:08:05 simply said she doesn't support him being a lap dog for a crazy woman. More was said, nothing got truly resolved. I was kind of invited again but declined going. Grandma is undecided if she even wants to go at all. My older siblings told Luke they will go to the ceremony if he seeks couples therapy or at least therapy. My parents are having headaches and now dislike Emma so much they can't hide it. Oh. And yes, Grandma spoke with the priest and he wants them to do extra premarital counseling or he won't officiate. I hope they don't get married but he is old enough to derail his life if he wants.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I thank you for letting me vent and my grandma loved the Pope joke. Where O.P. has replied, K-Irony, L.O.L. Well, I hope for your brother's sake that the extra premarital counseling results in him rethinking his plan to marry Ms. entitled and controlling. Good luck to you. Tripadwire 48 what's ironic is that the Catholic Church has a mandatory course or consultation called Precana that couples must complete before marrying in the Catholic Church. The course helps couples prepare for the sacrament of marriage by reflecting on the spiritual, emotional, and practical aspects of marriage.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The priest or deacon also weighs in on the compatibility of the couple, at least those I know who went through it had that happen. I think it varies by diocese, but I know my cousins was six months. months long. Update October 2nd, 28, 2024. My brother has gone too far and I decided to be done with him. He made our grandma cry and I think permanently damaged a lot of his relationships. I want to mention some of my cousins and other family members thought I was just stubborn in creating drama, but now there is no longer my side or Emma's side. Maybe he always felt this way, but the issue he has with Robert is absolutely ridiculous. He was so upset with what grandma said about him
Starting point is 00:09:57 being Emma's lap dog that he called her to speak about it. I was obviously not present for the conversation, but Grandma told me what happened and Luke confirmed it. He told her that it was unfair of me to ask Robert for help since he was her favorite grandchild and would get her to side with me no matter how wrong I was. He also told her that many of the cousins believed this and that it was so obvious since she even left her religion for him. He claimed the other LGBTQ plus members of the family. Most were not even born when Robert came out by the way, doubted if she would do it for them. So Grandma explained to Luke and then call every single one of her grandchildren to ask them how they felt and explained to each apart we didn't know. She said that
Starting point is 00:10:39 when Robert came out and she spoke with the old priest he hinted about knowing of places to set Robert straight. Grandma had heard horror stories from this places and so had Robert and they both spoke with my parents together about that not being an option at all. My parents never had intended to send Robert there and are very casual Catholics, but Grandma wanted to cover the basis just in case. I was told Grandma sounded like she had been crying on the phone and after the first couple of calls, which went from oldest to youngest the group chat started to blow. Robert is livid, our LGBT plus cousins are livid and say Luke lied. Even the cousins that were telling me to stop being a stubborn head are livid. By the time I was up for my call I was already
Starting point is 00:11:20 on the way to grandmas. Two of my cousins were already there and the youngest one, Sarah, 16F, was ready to literally fight Luke. For a bit of levity Sarah is about 35 centimeters smaller than Luke in the image of her swinging at him made me laugh a bit. She asked if I was making fun of her and I just explained the whole mental image of her trying to hit him and she admitted it was kind of funny. What I didn't tell her is I would love to slap some sense into Luke. My grandma has been through so much in her life and this is not what we want for her. She looks puffy-faced and kept asking everybody if they truly felt unloved by her, saying she would do everything for any of us.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Explaining how Robert was the oldest grandchild but that didn't mean she loved the rest any less. She is a strong woman, but I think something inside her broke a little with the thought she hurt her grandchildren. It was a shit show, a big one and I was just so done with Luke. My parents have been passive towards the situation so far because I asked them too, but after they heard what happened they told them they need time away from him. Robert is simply disgusted and decided to not speak with him anymore, which he communicated through the cousin group chat with Luke's response being that this is
Starting point is 00:12:31 why Emma's help on reigning all us would be so beneficial if we just let her. He also added how Robert never cared for him or anybody really and he just tried to be the center of attention all the time. He cited his coming out, his announcement he was going to marry a woman, the birth of his child, it was ridiculous. He came out when Luke was a toddler and for many years only our parents and grandparents knew. He announced he was going to marry his now wife through a text but didn't interfere or took from anybody. His child was born four months before Luke's graduation and apparently that was a big issue for Luke that he never commented. Maybe I am biased, maybe I am
Starting point is 00:13:08 selfish like Emma claims, but I call bullshit on his tantrum. Every single one of the cousins has been helped, babysat, tutored, gotten out of trouble, you name it by Robert. He isn't perfect but he isn't the conniving ass Luke is claiming. Maybe Luke has always felt inadequate and we didn't notice. Maybe it was his last ditch effort, maybe Emma has manipulated him so far that he can't come back. It doesn't matter anymore. If he does marry Emma, I wish him the best. If he doesn't, I hope he goes to therapy. Regardless of what he decides he burned so many bridges and hurt so many people, I don't see this resolving any time soon.
Starting point is 00:13:48 For now I will focus on my grandma and making her feel better. I feel extremely guilty because it was Emma's situation with me that opened this can of worms. I know I shouldn't, but it's hard not to. Lizard Girl 25. While it sounds like it is self-projection from Luke, he is the conniving asshole he is saying Robert is. Edit. Internet Stranger Here also sends hugs to your grandma and your family in general. Boop. Robert is the type of older cousin Sarah would call if she is drunk at a party and needs a safe ride. He also did it for Luke, which is why I don't get his deal. Ghost 30-22.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Irrational behavior is called that because it can't be rationalized. Luke is exhibiting very irrational behavior, which is why you'll never understand it. The best you can hope for is that he gets some serious therapy and pulls his head out of his ass sooner rather than later. Oop, if he asked for help and apologized sincerely, I would be there in two seconds. He knew what he was doing when he spoke without Grandma, he knew it would cause her pain, he knew he would hurt Robert too. Robert might not be crying, but he feels bad about the situation.
Starting point is 00:15:00 He has always looked out for everybody and even his picks of him holding every single one of us as babies all over one of his walls. I always knew there were not the closest of brothers, but this is too much. Pride of Cape Town, was this really Luke's inner feelings coming out, or is this Emma poisoning him into isolating himself from his family and support system? Either way, he's a gigantic asshole. You, your grandma and all your cousins should boycott this wedding oop. So far, nobody is going to his wedding. My parents are undecided about attending the ceremony, but they lean more on not attending. Update 3, November 4th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I want to start this by saying that Grandma is in better spirits now. I am overwhelmed by the amount of people supporting her and very grateful for it even if it's online. I have talked about this on some chats and DMs, but please know the situation with Emma is not about her being perennified or her family being strict Catholics, it's just her being her. They were already going to get premarital counseling, and extra was added. Oh, all cousins also don't live in the same city or town. Some are a bit longer than others but we keep in touch through the chat. The reason for the update is mainly to let people know Grandma is okay, her health is fine,
Starting point is 00:16:16 and she had a blast with my cousin Sarah. I also want to update on what has happened with the cousins and the maternal side of our family. Some of our paternal cousins, from Grandma's side, have relented and feel a bit bad on excluding Luke from things so the compromise was met on he can be invited to everything, just don't force people to interact. These cousins are mainly on the older side and have soft spots for the youngsters. My youngest cousin, Sarah, said she was okay with it all, but she wanted them to keep him away from her since she can't stand him anymore. Our maternal side was a shit-show, because of course we need one. Some of them were very upset but others told me I should try to
Starting point is 00:16:55 understand where he was coming from. My mom was the one that told them everything and some told her she is at fault for making Robert the star of the family. This was so uncalled for but brought some issues in my family, particularly when one of my maternal cousins asked me if I could behave enough if I am seated at the same table as Luke for his wedding. It makes us doubt ourselves, but really, this is a cousin that Robert has bailed from almost bankruptcy two times and he's the problem. I haven't said much about my sister Lucy since she voiced nothing different before. She was always very close to Luke and even had a great relationship with Emma before the debacle. She decided to be out of it because she was so disappointed.
Starting point is 00:17:33 While she was never made to babysit or anything like that, she was always so into Luke since he was her baby brother, she loved him the most and I know that because she literally told me when I was a kid. We have a good relationship now because her kids are my buddies but it was rough for a while before that. She was upset about the whole thing but when our maternal family, or at least apart, started excusing Luke she lost it. She is a very calm person, the type you don't expect a bad word.
Starting point is 00:17:59 out of, but she lost it and I think it was the last straw on the cold bucket for Luke. She sent a massive message about what has been happening, detailing every single thing, and daring people to kind of comment her if they disagreed. She made sure to include every single nasty thing, every bad word, every eye roll. She sent it to so many people because she was tired of the half-information telephone game. She is upset at me because my refusals made this happen and she said she knows she shouldn't, but she needs time to fix her feelings so she is not speaking with me right now. My parents decided they were out of the wedding and told Luke he is on his own.
Starting point is 00:18:37 There was never a monetary issue, they were willing to contribute, but both Luke and Emma are pretty well off and was no need for that. Now to what maybe most people want to know and the only conflict I am interested about anymore. My grandma is feeling better, Sarah being with her was very positive. It was lovely to see the eldest and youngest of our family so in tune, but then again they have a always been. She requested that Sarah invited Luke to her birthday party, December, and after a lot of back and forward he is going to be invited. We will see if he comes or not. A small parenthesis, I showed my grandma the joke of the knife, sword, etc. She was so giddy. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I mentioned before that Robert would pick up Sarah if she needed, it is still true. What I might have not mentioned is that she, of course, gets a weird lecture from him and an even weirder lecture on how he rates certain drugs. L.O.L. as I said, he is no saint, but he is not a shit either. Lastly, yes, he has photos even with my sister or me in the newborn wall. People love to take picks of him holding the new family members and he collected them and put them together when he got his own house. That's the end of the first story.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Let's begin the second one. I hope you enjoy this story. My 24-year-old boyfriend, 24M, is unusually purchasing fresh undergarments. In the past couple of weeks, my partner has acquired nearly nine new sets of intimate apparel. It's unusual because she bought some seven new pairs somewhere at the beginning of April, now I don't mind a girl buying new lingerie, but this is unusual she had close to 40 new pairs of lingerie, a count which keeps on decreasing every other day, now I take out trash every given day, and I've observed that she hasn't thrown her old lingerie in trash over past one week, while there's no trace of it anywhere in our apartment. And yet she is missing four to five pairs from our common closet, she seems to act.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Pretty normal, there's no dent in her daily routine, but it boggles me why she is on this lingerie shopping spree. It's not like she is amassing a stockpile of lingerie. Her lingerie count is somewhat unchanged from the time before this madness. I couldn't find trace of her old lingerie, am I being paranoid? Am I missing something here feminine that's otherwise normal? Should I ask her anything about it? TL, DRGF buying new lingerie every few days, while leaving no trace where she threw her old ones.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Update, I might ask her while we drive down to the train station in next 30 minutes, we'll keep you guys posted. Update 2, alright I chatted with her while driving, I started off by asking her directly as you slash fight Max Master suggested, she said something like she hasn't been feeling good about her underwear fitting, old and new, while at work, so she has taken a new vow if she finds any underwear incredibly uncomfortable, she will throw it off immediately, I asked her I haven't noticed any in our trash. Maintaining my casual tone, and she said since we spend most our daytime at work she disposes it off in her workplace bin and carries pair of change underwear, like most women do, I even said to her jokingly, oh, I was worried you were sealing your undies on eBay or something, just to get some kind of an answer, and she you-o-o-oed my remark, do women do that at work or get rid off their old undies when they find it uncomfortable like this. I could really use your insight on this, TBH, we moved together at the beginning of this year and this is the first time I've moved in with a girl, in a relationship, I don't know what else I could do, since she has made it clear she drops it off and work trash and has shown no intention slash to sell it online. But overall, I tried to make this conversation as just out of curiosity as I could. Update 3. This is way too overwhelming. I am heading back home and taking a day off. I know I might be overreacting, but somehow it just doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The conversation we had an hour ago might talk to her again during her lunch break. Update 4. Seriously guys, thank you. I have been glued to my phone all morning along, except driving back home. it took me a lot of self-convincing to gather clues for a possibility that my GF might be selling it online, back at home, we have placed to archive open mails, receipts, bills and other important documents except for our social and other personal items. There were six receipts in total, two from Victoria's Secret and three from Target and one from Macy's, against my rough counting, she had. Amassed some 28 to 30 pairs of new lingerie, including the one at the beginning of April, two of these receipts had Karen's name on it, my GF's elder sister, I believe Karen has some kind
Starting point is 00:23:15 of rewards card from Versus, that itself accounts for 40% of her new purchases, till now I thought she had probably purchased 15 pairs, give or take. I don't want to invade her privacy by sneaking her bank statements, because that would be a bit over the line, I cannot believe that she spent $1,100 plus on lingerie. Over past 45 days, that by itself is so effingy unusual, it's It's also odd that she hasn't paid using our red card at Target. We have Target app on our phones. I am calling my brother over to get some clarity. I don't know if it would be right to log into her laptop and see her browsing history to confirm if she's selling her underwear online.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I am just numbed ATM. Update 5. I spoke to my brother and saw some of your comments. I've decided to confront her in person when she's back home. I don't. Wanna take any chances or let any form of miscommunication trigger chain reactions for questions that might be unwarranted to her. Update 6. You know you have one of those days when all the hell breaks loose and this was one for me. I skipped lunch break phone call and hopes I can talk to my
Starting point is 00:24:19 GF when she gets back home. Spoke to Karen and her mom in the meantime to ensure if she isn't in some kind of financial mess or other kind of trouble, but it takes one if I n g truth to destroy it all, you guys. My GF saw this post at work and she immediately knew it was me posting it here. I didn't realize this, leaving rest of her day off. Some four hours ago my GF confessed that she was sleeping with some guy she met at her work gym, since the beginning of March, fuck me, she met this guy at her work gym some eight months ago. This guy is not even from her workplace. He works at this other startup. In a different building of this corporate park, she said things got all heated up late February after one. Afternoon, FNG though she stopped going to gym owing to her
Starting point is 00:25:02 hectic schedule after her promotion late November, but there she was, going to gym all along. From the day she started sleeping with this guy, she told her co-worker she has switched gyms across the street. I haven't even cared to ask where they did it, the missing underwear. This is so messed up, sick, she had this realization midway in March that this was wrong. I don't know why I never saw this side of her, but she began buying. New underwear and throwing it off as some of NG guilt ritual, she said she couldn't get off that guilt of wearing the same underwear in bed with me as she worn hours earlier sleeping with that meth. Do you know how disgusting that feels? Whofengi does this throw underwear because you want
Starting point is 00:25:41 T.P. dust off guilt from having it worn during sex with a guy you've met and barely known. I was stand still, but I held up for the moment. She says she was confused and that she has backed away from this guy's advances since past one week. I don't believe any word of it. In fact, I don't think I want to believe what she said. Also, the tossing her underwear workplace was an excuse yet. because back then I was driving and she didn't know how to react or what to say, so she made that excuse up. And here I was worrying whole day what it could be, I later called Karen because we were. Both emotionally drained, I didn't even wait a bit after she arrived, even Karen was shocked by the ramble, she later called me, because I had already left them in our
Starting point is 00:26:21 apartment. It took me a while to get my thinking right and call my brother. I'll be crashing at his house for now. Honestly, I don't even want to see her face ever. How can someone lie so perfectly. How can someone be so cold that they show no emotional change or discomfort when sleeping with two people? WTF she slept with me hours after she slept with that idiot. And throwing underwear was her means to get over that guilt. I don't understand her anymore. When she said it was all carnal, I didn't even know she believed in notion of sleeping around with people for physical needs. She said she still loves me and this was just something that made her feel good. I don't even know what to interpret of that. Honestly, I think. I think.
Starting point is 00:27:01 my thoughts are all over the place, but, thank you I don't know if I could have known about this if it wasn't for this post, it was after. Dinner did I realize that was trending on this sub, and this post made her take the midday train back home. I have so many questions. Part of me wants to see her again just to make sure she is all right. Part of me doesn't want to see her ever again. I have so many questions, but I just, avoided her by walking downstairs in no time. I had to ask my brother and his wife to pick some stuff off from home. Shit this is all messed up. Update 7.24M. 24F. I owe this sub a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I have taken sick leave today. I just wanted to say a huge, thanks people who have commented to my post from yesterday. I wanted to let you guys know that I have read each and every comment up until late last night. If it wasn't for your awesome responses, I would have never even dared to ask her about her behavior in first place or she would have never come back home early to confront me about this, after viewing that post on Reddit. I was able to get some sleep, yes, I'm at my brother's place, while she is staying with Karen, who is her sister, by the way, Karen reached out to me late last night and asked if we could meet early morning at a coffee shop and chat, so I did, we talked a lot about what happened yesterday, since she partly
Starting point is 00:28:17 confided in Karen about why she did what she did, here are some key takeaways. She doesn't know why she began sleeping with this guy in first place, it just happened. She feels terribly sorry for what she did to me and hopes we can work things out. She has already broken up with that guy a week ago, she felt it was wrong and there's no excuse for it. She asked Karen to buy stuff from Versus using Karen's C.C. because she felt it would be awkward to explain it to me if we were to review her finances, we used to do that together to cut her expenses and pay up aggressively towards her student loans. She claimed that sex with this guy was completely carnal and that there were no feelings or affection involved. She said she got lured by this because her new responsibilities were way too overwhelming for her,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but again she maintained that she didn't know why she started sleeping with this guy in first place. I don't think I want to know who this guy is or whether it was him or her who made the first move. Thinking about it is so if I find you depressive, I should have noticed how she was able to maintain her body in spite quitting Jim late last year. That being said, I still don't understand what must have made her impulsively sleep with that guy and jeopardize our relationship in first place. I think I'm going to eventually weigh in those reasons before I decide as to what to do next. I have been trying to assess if I could have picked up any cues that are otherwise typical to a cheater, and it's so strange that she hadn't had any of those characteristics. I mean the fact that she confessed she was able to convince her coworkers that she goes to gym across the street instead of using the free gym at her workplace by itself is. so infuriating. I don't think I would have ever doubted her cheating on me, because you don't see those cliched staying late after work or texting someone constantly symptoms when she was around at home, I think if I try to understand what made her to get in bed with this guy, I'll just get myself deeper down the rabbit hole. Karen also said that even she couldn't truly
Starting point is 00:30:10 understand what was going in her head when she decided to have this fling with a completely unknown guy and put our relationship at stake, though Karen did make a full disclosure that my once cheated on a guy as a teenager back in high school and things turned out ugly back then. I was a bit surprised since I didn't know this before. We both knew our relationship and our dating history midway in our relationship, but not this, that was quite a long time ago, and by the way, Karen is a sweet lady she even wrote each of us a letter before we guys moved and together. This is so ironic, I lurk on Reddit via my main account to get updates on our slash Apple and our slash macOS, while my GF used to thoroughly read.
Starting point is 00:30:49 her slash tukes chromosomes, she would sometimes read out a post here and there, asking me what do I think about some post on Reddit from a guy's perspective, entailing into one of those small talks, little, did I know that our life would be one of those relationship questions. To be a topic for small talk amongst other redditors or couples here. Online Nonetheless I truly appreciated your responses, I would have dragged this thing for days or even weeks, getting more and more worried, and obsessed, about my GF behavior. see, when you move and together, no one ever tells you what boundaries to set and what things to avoid. I think I made a mistake there maybe I should have checked on her time and again to see if something had been bothering her at work. I think first time living with someone that aren't your parents or drunk dudes back from. College is always awkward and wonderful at the same
Starting point is 00:31:38 time, don't take it as an advice but as a takeaway from my ill-fated experience. Just ask your so time and again if he or she has anything to share that's bothering him or her. I know this sounds like a dumb thing to ask, but when you are new in a relationship or have upped your relationship status, we tend to worry more about getting the dynamics of relationship or new arrangement right, instead of worrying about feelings of that person. I expected that we might get bored of each other one fine day as we grew older and I might end up buying candles at Target to spice things up, but not this. When she was drained back from work after her promotion, before we moved in, I seriously thought it would be better if I give her own time and not bring work talk during dinner. were when we hung out together, little did I realize that this could have made her look for comfort elsewhere, I can also affirm that I have been around her as long as she needed me. But I guess we were both busy complimenting each other in our apartment by who gets to do what to upkeep of our
Starting point is 00:32:32 surroundings, groceries, social responsibilities, instead of just being in moment and listened to one another. I just picked up my car and got off for my meeting with Karen at coffee shop, I have the remainder of this weekend all to myself, while my brother and his wife have been incredibly supportive, I though of getting myself checked into the first available counselor, even if that's just one time, I haven't told any of my friends or co-workers about it, so it's going to be social life as usual. Unless I come to a decision as to what to do next, it's like you are a fine-g pissed off for having your trust. Shattered but then you have need to walk through those broken pieces to get out of it, without getting yourself hurt, so now our apartment
Starting point is 00:33:13 deserted while I figure out what to do next, sorry for the ramble, but thank you, again. Edit, by no means I feel exactly the same for her like I did yesterday or while typing this post, I thought I still cared for her last night, but that gradually got replaced with rage and nausea even when I think about her. Don't worry, I'll be fine as time goes by, I have just confirmed appointment with the counselor and my PCP to get myself checked for anything fishy. The intent of this post was just to show deep gratitude for responses yesterday, and to today as it seems, to any guy slash gal. Reading this post and future, teetering between what to do next when you found out you were
Starting point is 00:33:51 cheated by your GF slash BF read some of the comments down below they might turn out to be truly insightful for you, and my counselor had already read my previous post before I had even checked into her office late afternoon yesterday, she referred to me as you are the guy who posted about his GFS lingerie behavior, right? Few minutes into our session, man, it seems everyone one on Reddit likes to lurk this sub I'm okay though feeling better just a bit insomniac and regarding our home I spoke to the leasing office and they said under the circumstances I can terminate the lease and pay rent until they find a new occupant I think I'll be fine from a financial standpoint I've been
Starting point is 00:34:29 living frugally and saved for a while

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