Reddit Stories - The son of my closest CHILDHOOD companion at UNIVERSITY oversteps BOUNDARIES with my

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #boundaries #university #childhoodfriends #familydrama #overstepping  Summary: A person recounts a troubling incident involving the son of their childhood companion fr...om university. The son has crossed personal boundaries, leading to discomfort and tension in their relationship. The narrator seeks advice on how to address the situation and restore appropriate boundaries.  Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, family, relationships, boundaries, universityfriends, childhood, parenting, advice, drama, conflict, communication, respect, personalspace, emotionalintelligence, socialdynamics, familyissuesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6816713/support.This episode includes AI-generated content.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Episode with two stories, first part. I hope you enjoy this story. The son of my closest childhood companion at university oversteps boundaries with my teenage daughter who is 14 years old. I am taken aback in distressed, unsure of how to handle the situation. Despite this, we remain close friends. With my childhood best friend. We grew up together, were there through each other's relationships.
Starting point is 00:00:27 When we both married the loves of our lives, when we started having children, etc., our families are very close. She got married and had children a while before I did, so she has older children, one of which is a 21-year-old college boy. I am practically his aunt and know him very well. The past few days I could tell my daughter was in an unusual mood, but I didn't think too much of it. Today I go into her room and see her crying. I asked her what was wrong and she said she couldn't tell me and to go away. I don't know why, but I got a really bad feeling about the situation and asked to see her phone. She freaked out and started to scream at me.
Starting point is 00:01:06 After a while I got it out of her that she and this 21-year-old man have been in contact and talking testing calling over the course of the past year. WTF? My daughter was in eighth grade. She gave me more details about the situation and said that he would encourage her to tell him her problem so they began to form a close relationship. He started telling her that he really loved her and saw her. her as a little sister, but told her to keep their friendship a secret from me and my best friend,
Starting point is 00:01:33 his mom, and our families. Here's what I know about their relationship. He would video call her at night after everyone was asleep and they would talk into the night he would often go on rants to her about how they can't have a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship now and my daughter would not really know what to say. She would just listen. He constantly talks to her about inappropriate things that I don't want her exposed to right now, such as his drinking habits in college and stuff like that. He talks to her about his problems and I see an issue in this because a lot of his problems in college are nothing a 14-year-old needs to know about. I don't mind her knowing about that stuff, but I would like her to be taught about it in a more responsible way. His friend apparently
Starting point is 00:02:09 called her drunk one time and began to say explicit, inappropriate sexual things about both her and my best friend's son, example, you suck his D.K. already girl. I want to vomit. Whenever we have family gatherings, we usually let all our children hang out together and my friend's son joins them and of course we assume he's just babysitting and watching over the younger kids. Apparently at a gathering this weekend, he had took my daughter aside and kissed her on the lips. It was her first kiss. He told her he has feelings for her but that they can't do anything right now. I am livid that I'm why daughter feels that she might have feelings for him but she is also shaken at the same time because she's uncomfortable. Deep down I know there's something telling her it's not right,
Starting point is 00:02:53 hence why she's so upset. She told me she feels like she likes him but at the same time she doesn't want him to come over anymore. I feel so sick, I feel like a shit parent for letting this happen under my own roof. How could I have let this happen? There is so much more, this is only a small portion of the stuff she's told me,
Starting point is 00:03:13 but I think it pretty much sums up their relationship. I don't know what to feel right now. Part of me wants to go over to my friend's house right now and scream at her son. Obviously I'm not going to do that, but I really need some advice. I'm going to tell my husband later and I know he's going to be extremely livid. I don't know what's going to happen with me and my best friend either. I don't even know if I care at this point about my relationship with her.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I need to get some help from my daughter. I'm also afraid that she's leaving details out. I don't know how bad this is. Sorry I'm just rambling. My head is spinning right now and I can't get my thoughts together. edit for more details. I asked her to show me the texts between them, but he apparently made her download this texting app that automatically deletes their conversations each day. He made her do this so that they wouldn't be caught. Update, I found that in the app Instagram you can
Starting point is 00:04:08 privately message people. I found this disturbing exchange between them. I believe the context is that my daughter blocked him on the texting app they used and the boy became extremely angry and messaged her on Instagram. The gray texts are my daughter and the white ones are from him. I am beyond pissed off right now. The exchange was from two months ago. Image transcript. Oops, daughter, sorry I was just feeling lonely, had a bad day.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Groomer, can you shut the fuck up for like a minute ever? Everything says about you. I had a long fucking day and I don't respond to your texts and you fucking block me. You're a piece of shit. Oops, daughter, frown okay. I'll just disappear then. Groomer, unblock me or I'll ruin you. You're a dumb eighth grade bitch you don't want to mess with me.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Oops, daughter, okay I did. Image transcript over. Update 2, earlier after my daughter told me about this situation, I told her to block all communication with him, which she said she would. I had checked in with her later to make sure everything was deleted and it thankfully was and I told her that she was very strong and that I was proud of her. She knew me and her father were planning on talking to his parents, but all of a sudden in the past hour she kept trying to convince us not to and kept insisting
Starting point is 00:05:29 that it wasn't as bad as she made it out to be. She kept saying it was her fault and seemed to get increasingly anxious. Me and my husband sat her down to try and work through the feelings and asked her where it was coming from. When she broke down into tears and told us that the boy knows that she told us and had messaged her dot what I didn't know is that right before she blocked him she messaged him out of fear saying she was sorry but she had told me about their relationship and what had happened. She told him that she wasn't allowed to talk to him anymore or something
Starting point is 00:05:57 like that. She blocked him without giving him the chance to respond. He apparently knows what her Tumblr account is and decides to create an account just to message her there. WTF? Here is the message he sent. I have never seen such a manipulative and horrific message, but it worked because it got to my daughter's head. She has been begging us to just drop everything and leave him alone. Obviously we are not going to do that, but I'm at a loss on how to convince my daughter that things will end up okay that we've all agreed to go to bed since it's been a long night. I've kept my daughter's phone in my room so he won't contact her in the middle of the night. Tomorrow we will deal with the situation once we are thinking more clearly and are able to take
Starting point is 00:06:39 the best course of action. Thanks so much to everyone for the overwhelming support. It's really nice to have a place to vent to people and the advice really helped. I'll try to make an update post later this week once I get the ball rolling on putting an end to this. Image transcript. How could you think I'm a bad person? You're the person I trust the most in the world. Some of the things I have told you are things that I've never told anyone in the world. You are selfish and evil at heart if you can really turn against me like that after everything I've done for you. When I've told you that I love you, I really mean it. But you are crazy a. F. to interpret me saying that is something more than just us being friends. You are like a little sister to me. Why the fuck would I want a 14-year-old?
Starting point is 00:07:26 You are delusional. Whenever I would speak to you about how we can't be in a relationship, it's because I thought you wanted something with me. I'm totally fine without you, dude. You are the only one who needs me. I'm the only one who has helped you through all your shit. went and turned against you who was there for you and talked to you whole night even though he had so much work to do. Me. Who was there every time you felt depressed? Me.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I can name so many other things. I kissed you on Saturday because I thought that's what you wanted and felt like you would kill yourself if I didn't. It's fucked up how you wanted and I felt like you would kill yourself if I didn't. It's fucked up how quickly you can turn on me and use the things I've done against me to hurt me. I don't know what else you told your mom, but I'm tired of your drama and don't really want to be friends with you anymore. Sorry it came to this, but it's something I've been thinking about for months, but all the stuff you do really affects and I think it's best for me if I cut out your toxic energy. If you care about me at all, you'll go to your mom and tell her that you lied and exaggerated like you always do.
Starting point is 00:08:32 You owe me that after everything I've done for you. Don't screw me over like you screw all of your other friends. When you told me about your drama, I really wanted to believe that you were in the right, but maybe your friends were actually right about you being a terrible person because I'm starting to see your true colors now. Prove me wrong. You are no better than me, dude. You let this go on for so long so you're equally at fault.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Think about all the stuff you've done before you try to get me in trouble. Image transcript over Relevant comments X-M-A-N-1971 praise her for coming to you. Don't blame her, she's 14 and she's a kid. Not sure if you have a legal case against the guy, but at the very least intervene and cut off all contact between them.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Again, remember she's 14, don't be hard on her, not her fault. Oop, of course. I told her that I was so proud of her for telling me this but stressed that at her age she shouldn't be having relationships like this with 21-year-old men and that I'd much rather her be. be talking to boys her age. I told her that I don't want her talking to him anymore and she said okay, but I don't know if this sorry excuse of a man will try to contact her again or even if she will reach out to him. I know at 14 she can't understand the severity so I don't know what
Starting point is 00:09:50 got through her head. Oops replied to now deleted comment. I talked to my husband after he came home from work and he is just as angry as I am. But he did bring up the point that the police will be unable to do anything if we don't have any real evidence. All we have is our daughter's word and we wish that was enough. Frown like the other commenters suggested, we are going to keep fishing for anything that will give us an edge. My husband proposed the idea even though he agrees it's risky, but would it work to maybe trick the boy into saying something that puts him in hot water? Meaning, we basically use my daughter's phone to bait him. I'm not sure about that though. out what we are going to do is go over to his mom's house at some point maybe tonight and have a chat.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I occasionally go to their place since we are in the same neighborhood, and childhood best friends LOL, and as shitty as it is, we're going to go over onto the guys that we're just going to stop by and drop the bomb on her then. We don't want to take the chance of anyone having time to cover their asses and truthfully I have no idea how my best friend is going to react in this situation. I know her son will be home since he is an intern this summer and probably will not be out late at night on a Wednesday that I appreciate the advice, it definitely helped. Update post, July 13th, 2018, one day later. Hi everyone. I want to thank you all once again for the overwhelming amount of support and messages in my original post. Taking into consideration all the advice we received,
Starting point is 00:11:17 our own gut instincts, and information we had on hand about the situation, we decided to move forward and get law enforcement involved in this situation. Our reasoning simply being that this guy knew exactly what he was doing and must be held accountable for his actions. Getting the police involved certainly has brought a lot more information to fruition. A thorough search brought up some more disturbing text conversations between my daughter and this boy that was enough to charge him with indecency with a child and possibly assault. We will continue to move forward with this and get our daughter the justice she deserves. The new findings, however, have brought up some more information about our daughter's
Starting point is 00:11:53 well-being. At the time of writing my previous post, I knew she was having some problems with friends in school on top of this current situation with the 21-year-old but what I didn't know was how severe her emotional issues have been lately. I feel awful. I know teenagers are good at hiding the things that they want to hide, but I wish I noticed, or tried to reach out to her more when I noticed she was being moody or isolating herself in her room. The police showed us a lot of messages involving suicide ideation, possibly signs of depression. the phrases I'm a fuck up. I don't think anyone would care if I disappeared.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Being constantly said. They strongly suggested getting a counselor and provided us with some resources. Here is an example of another thing the police showed me. Some background, she has this friend at school, I'm going to call him Alex. She has mentioned Alex to me before. They have gone to school together since kindergarten and when she was younger Alex would come to her birthday parties. They are decent friends. she mentions him from time to time regarding basic things like how they have a group project together, etc.
Starting point is 00:12:58 He's a really sweet kid from what I've seen. The police showed me these direct messages between the two of them on Instagram. I think he could be a good friend for her. He acts very unfazed and calm when my daughter is exhibiting manipulative and volatile behavior, but that's still no reason to speak to someone in this way. I don't want to diagnose but I'm really afraid about my daughter's mental health and behavior. I don't know if it's BPD, depression, anxiety, what? I don't want to make her think that this behavior is okay in any way,
Starting point is 00:13:29 but at the same time I know she must be hurting deeply to have to resort to treating people this way at this age. Basically, I don't want to make her feel like she's an awful human being, because she isn't, but I don't want to approach it in a way where it seems like I think it's okay. She says she doesn't want to go to therapy, but me and my husband agree that she needs to at least go to a preliminary appointment and speak to one. She is pretty open with us, but I know there are things she doesn't want to tell us about and there are things that we really feel only a professional can help with. We've set up an appointment with both a therapist and a psychiatrist that I'm just rambling now, but I've always tried to give my daughter privacy, but I think it's time I monitor who she's
Starting point is 00:14:06 talking to. I don't want her to feel like I don't trust her and like I'm spying on her so it's difficult. If there was just some way for me to see the contacts on app she's messaging without really seeing the message content that would help maybe. I just want to make sure she's not talking to anyone she shouldn't be. I don't know that we're glad that we can more forward and potentially get the 21-year-old guy charged with something and have him out of our lives, but my daughter is far from being healed. Thank you again to all who helped weigh in on this situation. Much love to you all. Update, I've received some interest on how the parents of the 21-year-old, the mom is my best friend from childhood, responded to the situation.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Received this text from his mom not soon after the police went to their house. You could have given me a heads-up before you went ahead and destroyed my family. L.O.L. I did not reply to the text seeing as it was immature, I did not want to entertain it, and I had bigger things to worry about. She called me a bit later and I made the mistake of picking up. She began to berate me and told her that I had broken her trust and ruined her family and that they were going through hell. She said that she could have fixed things herself if I came to her first and that I didn't need to go to the police and escalate the situation. Said some stuff about how her son's life was ruined too. Some other stuff about how I'll
Starting point is 00:15:27 burn in hell for this. I thanked her for the friendship and all she has done for me over the years and told her I was not interested in debating whether or not I did the right thing outside of a court, and swiftly ended our friendship. Relevant comment. Deleted, her son engaged in criminal activity on a child, but you destroyed her family. K, it sucks to lose a friend, and to be blamed, but know that you did the right thing. If he had robbed a bank, you wouldn't have called and given her a heads up that the police are about to be informed. Upp, exactly. The reason me and my husband agreed not to give her a heads up was because we knew she would freak out and try to talk us out of it. I know if it was any other guy grooming my daughter, she would have 100% supported me calling the police.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm trying to limit the amount of contact with her and remain objective and pretty much behave gray rock with her because of how conflicted our interests in the situation are, and I don't want the emotions between us due to our friendship to overcomplicate what we know we must do that it's really, really hard. Final update, December 13, 2019, 1.5 years after original post. It's been well over a year since everything happened and I figured I should give a final update to the community that was so supportive to me during such a difficult time for my family. I sincerely thank each and everyone one of you who gave me advice and showed so much love and support. After everything that happened last summer, we did eventually end up moving to a new
Starting point is 00:16:52 state right before the school year started. My husband's job allowed him to relocate there, and after some time I ended up finding a job of my own here. My daughter was able to start high school at a new school and it was the best decision we made. She's very recently 16 now and in her second year of high school, involved in track and XC, has a wonderful new social circle and a boyfriend, who's actually her age this time, few. He's been over for dinner a couple times and he's a lovely young man and treats my daughter with so much respect. I'm just so happy that she's happy now after everything's been through. There's still stuff she needs to work through so she is attending therapy regularly and it's helping her a lot. Overall, all the dust has settled
Starting point is 00:17:37 and my family is happy, stronger and closer to because of all that's happened.as for the man who did all this to my daughter, we unfortunately weren't able to get too harsh of a punishment. We fought tooth and nail and were only able to get him to be slapped on the wrist with a large fine. We've come to peace with it knowing that we did all we could and that he's out of our lives for good. We were able to place a restraining order on him so he won't be bothering anyone anymore, and he's on the sores for my best friend, aka the mother of this man. We hadn't talked to each other in over a year. A couple months ago, she reached out to me to tell me she was in my new state for a business trip and asked me to get coffee with her. I declined at first, but she called me
Starting point is 00:18:17 and told me she just wants to meet for closure and that she's missed me and wants to apologize for her part and everything. We met for coffee and she completely apologized. We met for coffee and she completely for the way she treated my family through all of this and told me she only did it because she was afraid of her family falling apart but now recognizes that it was selfish of her. She wanted to be friends again in some capacity if I was okay with it. Dude thanked her for the apology but told her that I don't feel comfortable resuming a friendship with her and that it was best for us to go our separate ways. It was a really sad conversation.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Me and this girl have been together through so much growing up, she has been my rock during some of the most difficult and scary times in my life and vice versa it was hard not to be sad or second guess it, but I knew it was best. I don't want ties with her family or any connection there. Thank you again, Reddit for everything. I'm so grateful. That's the end of the first story. Let's begin the second one. I hope you enjoy this story. Envious mother replaced my bridal blossoms to provoke my sensitivities. She then attempted to woo my partner while I was in the hospital. As a result, I decided to sever ties with both of my guardians. I, 23F, have been with my husband, 29M, for three years and we were supposed to get married a few days back.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It didn't happen the way I wanted it to because my psycho mom pulled some really messed up crap which ended up sending me to the hospital with a crazy allergic reaction. She swapped out my floral arrangement of only orchids and peonies for a bunch of daisies, dahlias, and irises. IRISes. I I have a severe pollen allergy and also asthma, so it's really bad for me to be around pollen heavy flowers which all of the ones I mentioned above are. And the wedding venue was loaded with those flowers which drove me nuts and triggered an asthma attack so bad that I had to go to the ER, all thanks to my mom. For context, my mother, 44F, and I don't get along, as you all might have concluded by now.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Growing up, my parents lived separately for a while and I got used to that. They had a lot of differences back then, so they separated when I was seven, but they ended up getting back together when I was 15 or so. Just so were clear, my parents were never divorced and were still married on paper, but they lived separately and lived separate lives. I visited my mother every other weekend, but she'd never have time to spare for me and I'd end up spending most of my time by myself in my room at her place. So that was my relationship with my mom and it was strained at best, but we were on okay terms. She did see other men when she was separated from my dad, but I don't know if those guys knew about her marriage beforehand and I never asked.
Starting point is 00:20:58 As far as my dad is concerned, he never brought home any women and even if he did see other women, I didn't get to know about it. They remained on good terms even while they were separated since they'd parted mutually and so co-parented me to the best of their abilities. Or, well, at least my dad tried too. My mother wasn't very keen on parenting me at all. I'm over it, though, and I didn't try to reconnect with her or fix my relationship with her after I left for college because I got too busy. College is also where I met my husband and no, he wasn't a student there. I became friends with his sister during college and one year. I had to stay back during Thanksgiving since I couldn't fly back home due to a blizzard. My friend lived nearby, so she decided to invite me to her
Starting point is 00:21:42 house for Thanksgiving dinner and that's where I met my husband for the first time. I was 19 at the time and he was 25 so I thought the age gap was a little weird and I guess so did he but neither of us did anything about it. But we did become friends and kept in touch. We'd speak to each other almost daily for a couple of months and even hung out a few times. After that, there was just no denying that we had a thing but he was really shy and didn't ask me out so I decided to ask him out instead and it was really sweet. He ended up saying, saying yes and we started dating. After I graduated, I moved in with him, and about six months later, we decided that it was time to tell our families about us. I already knew his family
Starting point is 00:22:23 and they seemed to like me. I was hesitant to introduce him to mine, though. I was cool with my dad but I didn't want to introduce him to my mom because I just had a gut feeling that something would go wrong if I did. I didn't even know it back then, but yeah, I was right. I did end up bringing him home to meet my parents during the holidays nevertheless, and back then, I believe that it had gone well. I didn't notice that my mother had been really quiet during the whole thing and had been actively avoiding looking at either of us. I was just glad she wasn't saying weird crap about me or making backhanded jokes about me like she usually does. He only met my family a couple of times after that and I didn't notice anything off at the time, so I had no idea about what my mother
Starting point is 00:23:05 was thinking then. Seven months ago, my husband proposed and I said yes. My parents flew down here to be able to attend the wedding four weeks ago as a surprise. I was happy about my dad being here, but not too thrilled that my mom was here too because all she did was nitpick my choices and try to bring me down. I wanted to send her home without any reason, but I didn't because then my dad would leave with her and I didn't want that because then my wedding day would be really sad for me. My dad wasn't exactly aware of the cold war between my mother and me and I didn't want to tell him about it either because that would just lead to a load of unnecessary drama. because he'd want me to confront the issue and try to sort it out with her, which I just really didn't want to do. So I put up with her just for my dad's sake, and in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have. For my own and my dad's sake. I'd finalized my florist and floral arrangements and decorations
Starting point is 00:23:57 for the wedding about two months ago and incidentally, my mother found out from a list that I'd left on my desk that she happened to be friends with my florist. She'd been visiting my husband and me, which they'd been doing often ever since she and my dad came by, but I didn't think much of it. I just figured that they were visiting us almost every other day before the wedding because I'd been living away from home for a really long time and I guess that my dad just wanted to see me more often, which is why they were visiting us so much before the wedding. I didn't find out that it was actually my mother's idea until yesterday when I finally told my dad about my issues with my mother. Now, finally, it is the wedding day. Three days ago, I was supposed to get married but like,
Starting point is 00:24:37 I already said, I ended up in the hospital because my mother had swapped the hypoallergenic flowers I'd picked for my wedding for a bunch of pollen-heavy flowers. It triggered my asthma and I landed up in the hospital for the day, which obviously meant that I had to delay the wedding. It wasn't even just a couple of flowers but the whole place was teeming with them which is why it became incredibly difficult for me to even breathe there. My husband and I had visited the venue in the morning to check how the decorations were coming along, right before we went to our separate rooms in the hotel to get dressed, and they were still doing up the place, but they'd already made the floral arch and done the flowers, and I realized instantly that these were not the ones
Starting point is 00:25:13 that I'd approved. As soon as I went inside, I started sneezing and coughing like crazy and unfortunately, I'd forgotten my inhaler in the car, so it just got worse by the time my husband arrived with it and I had to be driven to the ER because my lungs literally felt like they were closing in on themselves. I had only an hour to spare and the doctors said that I'd be fine, but I could not be back in the venue until it had been properly rid of all the flowers and traces of pollen which would definitely take a while. We had no time to waste since we were already running pretty late and I really didn't want to keep my guests waiting. So I sent my husband back to deal with that while I stayed in the hospital, waiting for my lungs to feel normal. I drove myself to the hotel
Starting point is 00:25:54 so I could sit in my room with my bridesmaids and get my makeup done at least because I was already running an hour late for the wedding. I'd realized on my drive that there had been no news from my husband after he'd left, so I tried to call him but he didn't answer and neither did any of my family. It was only while I was getting my makeup done that I received a call from my mother-in-law, telling me to come to her room immediately saying that there was a family emergency that I needed to deal with urgently. So I rushed to her room and found my husband, my dad, my mother, and my mother-in-law sitting in the room. Everyone with the exception of my mom looked really disturbed but she looked quite okay. There, I was told by my mother-in-law that while I was in the
Starting point is 00:26:32 hospital, my mother had pulled my husband aside at the venue while they were all trying to speed up the process of clearing out and cleaning the place to get rid of the pollen and tried to make a move on him. For a second, I couldn't even believe what my mother-in-law was telling me and I looked at my husband for confirmation. When he nodded, I realized that this wasn't just some massive prank on me and they were all actually serious about this. My mother-in-law continued speaking. and told me that she'd caught her in the act and had actually overheard my mother talking to my husband. It still makes my skin crawl to even think about that and it's really difficult even typing
Starting point is 00:27:07 it out for everyone to know but I know I have to say it now. So my mother had told my husband that she'd always sensed the tension between them and now that I was finally out of the picture, they could now get together for real instead of trying to push their feelings down. My husband tried to get away, obviously, but my mother insisted that she knew they had a thing and didn't want to waste the potential of what could have been. Luckily, my mother-in-law was there and she confronted my mother and even dragged her away from her son. That ended with a nasty argument between my mother and my mother-in-law at the venue.
Starting point is 00:27:39 That had gone on for a while, which is why nobody had answered my calls. My husband finally had the sense to suggest that everyone be brought to the hotel instead of creating a scene in public in front of all the staff at the venue, which is what they did. and now, they were here to ask me what I wanted to do about this situation since it was our wedding. I didn't even think twice before telling my mother to get up, pack her bags, and leave right then. My mother didn't argue either and neither did she look back at my dad to ask him to come along, which was surprising because she literally just tried to cheat on him with her daughter's fiancé on her wedding day. I also realized that she must have spoken to my florist and changed the order for my wedding
Starting point is 00:28:18 and the florist must have done it because they were friends. When I spoke to the vendor, she told me that she'd received a call from me a couple of weeks back with a request to change the order and a proper discussion about what I wanted, which is why she'd done so. I'm guessing my mother must have gotten a hold of my phone and made the call while I wasn't in the room because I do have a tendency to forget things. And my voice is similar to hers. A lot of people get confused on the phone, including my dad. Anyway, my mother left and even though it was a really tense and awful morning, my husband,
Starting point is 00:28:50 and I did end up getting married. The ceremony started an hour later than it was supposed to and it was kind of embarrassing but it was still beautiful. Even though there were absolutely zero flowers there, my husband had doubled up on the balloon last minute and made it livelier which was a genius move on his part, I just say. That was a couple of days back and I didn't address the thing about my mother for a while because as a newlywed, I just wanted to enjoy the first few days of my marriage
Starting point is 00:29:15 instead of letting my mother's craziness ruin it for me. But yesterday, my dad finally visited and we talked about what happened. We hadn't spoken much after my mother left and I didn't have enough time to speak to him at the wedding, even though he did walk me down the aisle. He'd stayed here at the hotel but he's supposed to leave today, which is why he paid me a visit last evening. It was awkward but he did tell me that he hadn't spoken to my mother since she left and truly didn't know what to expect.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I told him all about the issues I had with her and he seemed really surprised because he had never picked up on any of it. It wasn't surprising because my dad had always been sort of oblivious when it came to social cues and stuff like that so I forgive him for never noticing the tension between my mother and me. However, I did tell him that I'd put up with her long enough for his sake only, and now, I wasn't ready to do that anymore. I know he loved her, but I wasn't going to sit around pretending that I was okay with it anymore and she'd already proven that she wasn't worthy of being with anyone, let alone my dad. So I gave him an ultimatum and told him that he could either divorce my mother and never see her again or else,
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'd be the one going NC with him. He seemed kind of shocked because he clearly hadn't expected me to take this stance, but I couldn't stand my mother and I don't think anyone in my place would have done things differently. She'd sent me to the hospital on my wedding day just so she could make a move on my husband. I mean, if that's not truly psychotic, then I don't know what is. My dad said that he needed to go back to the hotel and pack for his flight when I gave him the ultimatum and didn't give me a proper answer at the time and hasn't spoken to me since.
Starting point is 00:30:50 My husband and his family don't think I've done anything wrong because what my mom did was way out of line. It was disgusting and repulsive and for my dad to even consider still staying with her after she tried to cheat on him with his son-in-law was just crazy. But I also don't want to lose my dad because he'd been my rock growing up and he's literally the only family that I have. So it'll be really bad for me if he chooses to cut me off and stay with my mom instead. I don't know if what I did was right and I don't know if it was my place to demand that my dad leave my mother because it is his life, after all. I could just stay in touch with him and not my mother, but I can't imagine that working.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I feel like I'm being too hard on him because he's just gone through something just as bad as me since it was his wife and the mother of his child who just tried to cheat on him so he doesn't have it any easier than I do. So I'd have forgiving my dad an ultimatum and asking him to pick between divorcing my mother or staying in touch with me? Update 1, hi, so I talked to my dad after almost a week and well, he's still on the fence. I went through the comments on my post and realized that most of you believe that I should cut ties with my dad as well and shouldn't wait for him to leave my mom.
Starting point is 00:31:58 As much as I would have loved to do that because it would have been a lot easier than facing this emotional roller coaster, I can't because I love my dad. Like I said earlier, I want to put myself first and stop talking to him but my life would feel empty without him. I already practically don't have a mother because the one I do have, well, it's better to not have one than have her as my mom. And my dad and I have been close ever since I was a child so it'll just be really difficult for me to cut him off and pretend to be okay with it. I wish I was as strong as everyone in the comments section is but I'm really not and things like these are just easier said than done, truth be told. There was also a particular
Starting point is 00:32:36 section of people who believed that my husband had already cheated on me with my mother because of how comfortable she sounded while hitting on him and thought that he didn't reciprocate only because he knew his mother was around. Well, as charming as that theory is, I don't think that's true at all. My husband and I are quite serious about each other and are very much in love. So for him to think about another woman, let alone my mom, is just really unlikely. I know I sound like I'm exaggerating or bragging, but it's just a fact. My husband is very loyal to me and I don't appreciate the insinuation that he might have already been cheating on me, especially with my own mother. That's just disgusting. And since a lot of you asked why I hadn't called the cops on my
Starting point is 00:33:19 mother when she triggered my allergies on purpose, the reason was that it was my wedding day and police at a wedding is hardly ideal. I was already running late and I just didn't want that extra hassle and drama so I told her to leave instead. She lives in a different state so it's very unlikely that she'll be able to do anything to put me in harm's way after this, and if she does, I'll definitely call the cops because then I won't be worrying about my guests or the thousand tasks I have to do before and after my ceremony. So yes, long story short, the reason I didn't call the police was because it was my wedding day. That was also the reason I let my florist off the hook because the goof-up actually wasn't her fault. She couldn't tell the difference between
Starting point is 00:33:59 my mother's voice and mine which was an honest mistake and even after that, she did send me a text to confirm my order but I never opened it. She didn't ask me again either because she was busy with a lot of orders since she was handling a lot of weddings in a week. Like I said, I'm really forgetful and I guess that was kind of on me. She did give me a discounted rate, though. As for my dad, I don't know what to say. I mean, he said that he's still thinking about what to do regarding the situation with my mother. He said that she apologized to him and said that she just got a little carried away. I don't know how that's an adequate defense for anything at all but whatever, that's not even my concern. I don't care for her excuses, but apparently, my dad does.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He told me that they've gone back to living separately and he's been contemplating what to do next. I don't understand what exactly he's contemplating because I think there's a very clear and obvious solution to this problem. A divorce. That woman tried to cheat on him, for the love of God. I'm not going to tell him what to do. It should be his decision. But whatever he chooses to do, he'll have to face the consequences of his actions, and if he chooses to stay with my mom after what she did to me then he'll have to lose me. And that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Update 2. Okay, I get it. I read the comments and I understand that I can apply the same logic that I used to defend my decision of not cutting ties with my dad to the situation that he's in. I get the irony and I'm surprised I missed it the first time around. I guess I'd been way too emotional and that's why I didn't even realize that I was doing the exact same thing that I was calling out my dad for, defending him and continuing to condone his messed up behavior but refusing to cut him off.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I know now that there's not much to do but just to let this go. I can't continue to think emotionally and let my heart run the show if I want peace of mind and even my husband agrees that I need to let my family go because the way they've been acting is nothing short of crazy. My mom's insane and my dad's no less because he's choosing to put up with that insanity quite willingly. He still hasn't been able to come to a decision about what he's going to do and it's been more than two weeks. I think I've given him enough time to think about his decision and if he still hasn't been able to come to a conclusion then I have my answer.
Starting point is 00:36:15 If he's not strong-willed enough to let my mom go now then I doubt he ever will be, but I know that I have to cut him off for my own sake and I'm going to do that now. Update 3, I did it. I called my dad up and told him that I couldn't, for my own sake, have him as a part of of my life anymore. He was shocked when I said that and tried to tell me that he still hadn't reached a conclusion about what he wanted to do regarding the situation with my mom, but I told him that the fact that he was stalling me for so long meant that he was still willing to give her a chance and I just couldn't accept that. He knew everything that my mother had done and despite that, he was inclined towards choosing her. Had it not been from my ultimatum, he probably
Starting point is 00:36:55 would have gotten back together with her already and he didn't have a reply to that because he knew it was true. It was very difficult for me to bring myself to say it, but I did tell him that his parents, both of them had let me down. My mother had done something unforgivable and he was no better for letting her get away with it without almost any consequences. I could tell that he had a lot of things that he wanted to say, but he only said that he'd still be waiting for a text or a call from me whenever I was ready to forgive him, which meant that he was definitely going back to my mom. He said that he was sorry for whatever they'd put me through and hoped that I could forgive him someday, then disconnected the call. It was heartbreaking and I'm still not over it,
Starting point is 00:37:33 but my husband is being really great, so I guess I'll come to terms with it soon enough. I just wish I'd called the cops on my mother that day and taught her a lesson, but I didn't, just to avoid the drama. I'm not going to say I regret it, but I'll definitely keep praying that something terrible happens to that woman. She deserves the worst because she is the worst. My husband and I are supposed to leave for our honeymoon in a couple of days and I'm kind of sad right now, but I'm hoping that the trip will help me take my mind off of things.

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