Reddit Stories - The whole clan urged me to create a COUNTERFEIT CERTIFICATE for my UNEMPLOYED

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

#redditstories #askreddit #aita #familydrama #counterfeit #certificate #unemployed #moraldilemmaSummary: The whole clan urged me to create a counterfeit certificate for my unemployed relative. Feeling... torn between loyalty and honesty, I grappled with the moral implications of deceiving others to help a loved one in need.Tags: redditstories, askreddit, reddit, aita, tifu, familydrama, counterfeitcertificate, unemployed, loyalty, honesty, moralimplications, deceiving, lovedone, help, dilemma, decisionmaking, ethics, dilemmaresolution, support, conflictofinterestBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/reddit-stories--6237355/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hope you enjoy this story. The whole clan urged me to create a counterfeit certificate for my unemployed sibling who blackmailed me, but after relenting and producing it, he secured a job. At an airport with no background check then quit after two days. So long story short, my brother is 22 and doesn't have a diploma or any skills. He usually bounces between under-the-table jobs to being jobless. He doesn't have that many opportunities, so he had the idea or maybe another sibling suggested it, Hick, that he'll just have me scan my older sister's high school diploma, and Photoshop his name
Starting point is 00:00:37 and what would have been his graduation year on there. All of my family is on board with this, except for me. At first I argued it was illegal, but then one of my sisters called me a hypocrite because I torrent programs and download music, and I responded with saying that so if anyone downloads music or torrents a program, they are not allowed to criticize other illegal actions like murder or grape. She said that I can't compare that to photoshopping a diploma, but I was just giving an example. Since when did doing a small illegal thing become equivalent to condoning all illegal things? Anyway, that's besides the point. All my sisters kept telling me how I do
Starting point is 00:01:17 nothing for the family, and how they always do stuff for me, and that I need to do this for my brother, while my mother tries to guilt-trip me into doing it by saying do it for me. I told my sister why doesn't my brother just get his GED? I dropped out of high school last month and am close to getting my GED this month, and she replied with saying that my brother isn't mentally developed and that he can't simply do that. I then tell her that he dropped out, he now needs to face the consequences. She said that isn't fair because he was dropped on his head as a baby, and he isn't mentally
Starting point is 00:01:50 developed okay, he is academically stupid because he never paid attention in school and makes horrible decisions but he doesn't have a disability and is completely functional. Anyway, I should also note that I don't even like my brother. He constantly lies and steals though on the bright side as of recently he hasn't stolen from anyone because he has a job and my mom sometimes gives him money, but despite that just a few days ago he took a credit card from her purse. Anyway, yeah, me and my brother don't get along. Fights between us are rare, but a month ago we got into a huge fight and all my sisters and my mom tried getting between us, and I ended up pulling a knife on him. He said he was going to
Starting point is 00:02:31 grate me. My other sister makes an argument that I have to do this because my brother does stuff for me. Like driving me to a college to take two of my GED tests. With my mother's car, with gas my mother filled and then when he picked me up my mother went and she wanted to stop by three different places and he cursed at her and told her to choose one place other things he has done for me was he got me a public sub with his food stamps a few weeks ago and sometimes he drives me to my friend's house again with my mother's car that he always wastes the gas on immediately after dropping me off he does my mom driving favor so he can get the car and give one of his friends' rides. Anyway, my entire family keeps getting on my case saying I have to do it. I keep on hearing that I don't do nothing for my
Starting point is 00:03:21 family and how I don't benefit my family from one of my sisters, and that they always do stuff for me. Update 1, well, I'll make this a quick update. After making the post and receiving a few comments where people said that my family was being stupid and it wouldn't work. I read them to one of my sisters and mom. My sister and mother were surprised to hear that it wouldn't work and didn't know that background checks could figure out rather or not you graduated high school. Status quo is returned to normal. They left me alone about it now. Today when I looked at the post again, I was surprised to see that it had blown up quite a bit. I showed them the post a few hours after it was posted, so I was surprised to see it now have over a hundred comments.
Starting point is 00:04:06 The new comments address something that I feel needs to be clarified. Yes, my brother did threaten to grate me, but it was all shit talk. He got it from my 27-year-old brother who always threatens to great people. I just mentioned him saying that to me to show how much of a shitty brother he is, and to further show why I don't want to do him any favors. I'm not actually worried that he'll grate me. As for me pulling a knife on him, yes, I did do that. We were in a physical fight, and he's six years older than me.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I pulled a knife to even the odds. As for my family being stupid. Well, yes, this was a lapse of judgment on my sisters and mother's part. My mother gets a pass because she doesn't know how background checks work, and is a bit clueless when it comes to certain things. She didn't grow up in America. However, my sisters, they genuinely didn't know that background checks would show rather or not you graduated high school and thought that just having a physical copy would be enough to get you a job.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Some comments did say that most jobs would be too lazy to confirm, so I guess they weren't completely off the mark. As for them being stupid, they're all smarter than me. My oldest sister graduated high school with a 4.0 GPA and is a year away from becoming a pharmacist. My other sister graduated with a 3.9 GPA and got her bachelors in college a few years ago. And then my other other sister I know. I have three sisters, is incredibly intelligent and has more common sense than all my family combined. She just sided with my family because she's admittedly biased and likes ganging up on me. My brother on the other hand.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, he's stupid. As for abuse in my family, yeah, my family is pretty abusive. My parents abused all my siblings, but stopped around the time when I was like, four or five. My oldest siblings took over abusing us. My oldest sister stopped abusing us because not only she moved out, but because by the time me and my other sister the biased one, where in middle school, we could kick her ass. My oldest brother is still abusive, and that hasn't changed because my mother is an enabler, and my dad is passive. He moved out a month ago, though it would suck if he returned. There isn't really abuse in my house at the moment.
Starting point is 00:06:35 As for my 22-year-old brother, my mother enables him the most because parents will always protect their weakest child. I'd prefer if my mom would disown both my brothers, but it isn't going to happen. My family wouldn't be so bad if my two brothers were gone. For anyone who is curious, I do plan on cutting my brothers out of my life when I grow older, but not the rest of my family. Anyway, I'm sorry for going off topic, I just needed to address some of the things said in the comments of the original post. Update 2, it's been two months since I posted the update on this entire problem. I know I said the situation was solved after I told my sisters about the posts, but apparently it wasn't. Also, this update is a month and a half late, but never late than never.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Okay, a few weeks after my first update was made, my brother applied for a day. job at an airport. I'm not sure what the job entailed, I'm pretty sure it's simple manual labor stuff. That's besides the point. So, to get this job my brother needed to take a drug test, and show proof that he had a diploma or GED. Even though the GED part came first, I'll start with the drug test part. So my brother smokes weed a lot, so he had my oldest sister asked me to pee in a cleaned out eyedrop bottle. I refused, so my sister had to be the one to do it. My brother's plan was to wear tight underwear and hide the eyedrop bottle under his nut sack, his words, not mine. The day he went to go take the drug test, he chickened out and ended up
Starting point is 00:08:12 using his own pee. He fucking passed. He smokes weed almost every night. He must have had weed in his system. But he fucking passed. Now, let's get to the GED part which happened before the drug test, so my brother lied to the man slash lady slash whoever that was going to hire him, and said that he had his GED. He was asked to bring in his diploma. I'm confused too. Everyone in the comments had said that places do background checks, and no one asked to see the diploma. But they asked my brother to bring it the next day. So what happened the? So what happened that day. My mom and all three of my sisters all ganged up on me to make him a fake GED on Photoshop. They said all I had to do is change the name on my GED that I earned, and put his.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It was one thing when they asked me to make him a fake high school diploma by putting his name on my sister's diploma. But this enraged me. I earned my GED, and it enraged me that they asked me to Photoshop his name on my GED that I earned. I yelled at my mom. I said that my MOYD. I yelled at my mom and sisters, and they left. They then tried again an hour later. They tried to bargain. My mom offered me $100, and said she'd buy me whatever food I wanted that day. My sister said that I wouldn't even have to do it, and that all I had to do was teach them how to do it, and also teach them how to get Photoshop. This went on for hours they would leave and come back 20 or 30 minutes later. Finally, it was nighttime, and I just got sick of it. I said fine, I'll make it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I refused to use my own GED as a template, so I pulled off a GED template off of Google, erased the name and date on the GED diploma using Photoshop, and added in his name and a different date and I also downloaded a diploma font for some of the text. I also photoshopped our state seal onto the diploma because mine had one. The GED looked nothing. like mine, and honestly the text that was left on it was sort of blurry while his name and the new date was more clear. I was kind of hoping for him to get called out and then get a felony for forgery or something like that. Anyway, my sister printed it out and got it laminated. He took it in, and he got the job. No background checks. Let me repeat, this is an airport
Starting point is 00:10:39 job. Why was there no background check? Anyway, he went through the week of the weekend. He went through the of training, and then officially started work. He quit on the second day because someone told him to pick up something I think a cone, and he refused to do it. He told my parents that the man only told him to pick it up because he was racist. Now here I am, over a month and a half later. I honestly sort of forgot about all of this, until today when my oldest sister and I were talking. We were discussing my brother, and she was saying how he wasn't that bad while I was trash talking him. Suddenly tons of terrible shit he has done came to mind, and I remembered the GED thing. I then say, Hey, remember when you all spent hours trying to convince me to make him a fake GED so he could get a job,
Starting point is 00:11:27 and then he quit two days later. And then she said, yeah, that was fucked up. Then my other sister had the nerve to tell me shut up, we all had to beg you like dogs to make it. So yeah, this update is more of a vent too. What my sister told me got me angry about this entire situation again. I also regret making that fake GED. I don't understand how he passed the drug test and how they didn't even do a background check. Next story, had sex with my best friend on my birthday and got pregnant, when I finally told my parents they were so supportive, but then I found out it was in pregnancy that could kill me. I'm 16, I'm pregnant, I need advice now. I had sex with a friend on my 16th birthday because I wanted to experience it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It was with a good friend of mine and I initiated it all. I'm not on birth control. I didn't think I'd get pregnant and he pulled out to finish but I think he may have squirted in me first. It doesn't matter because I'm pregnant. I am over two months late and took a test this morning and another after school. I don't know what to do. I can't tell my mom, I don't want to tell anyone, I have no one to go to.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I can't get an abortion, I just don't think I can live with that. I might regret it forever. I don't know anything right now. My parents will be home in a few hours and I have no idea what I'm going to say or do. I want to run away, but I can't. I wanted to call my friends, but they can't help me.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I dialed planned parenthood like 20 times but never called. Oh my God, what the fuck am I going to do? I need to know who to call and what to say to my mom. I can't imagine that there is a baby growing in me. I am not prepared for that. What the heck am I supposed to do? Please someone give me advice on how to handle this and what I can tell my mom. I feel like I'm going to burst into tears the moment.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'm that close to the edge right now. I need help. Please someone tell me what to say and who to call and what to do. update, I just reread what I wrote this afternoon and feel like so much has happened in a few hours. Thank you for all the great advice and comments, I am overwhelmed with the messages and advice. Someone wanted to know what happened, so here it is. My dad came home and came to my room after talking to my mom for a few minutes. I was so scared, I have never seen my daddy look that way, and I didn't know what he was thinking or about to do, but he pulled my desk chair next to where I've.
Starting point is 00:14:08 was sitting on my bed, looked me in the eye and said, I want to tell you one thing, princess. I love you no matter what you do, where you are, or what situation you are in. I am always there to take care of you and help you see it through. He then asked me, am I sure that I am pregnant? And I said, yeah, pretty sure, and he said, are you okay? And I saw him start to tear up. I've never seen my daddy cry, and when I saw that I just lost it and started bawling and told him everything that happened. He scooped me up off the bed and hugged me with my head on his shoulder and I just kept crying and I told him about what happened and how I've been worried about this for weeks and that I didn't know what I should do or if they would still love me
Starting point is 00:14:51 and if I should just run away or so something worse and that I posted here for advice after my second. Test and that people were so nice and supportive and that changed everything and that told me to call mom and she dropped what she was doing to be here and how I really don't know what to do, and he just held me for what seemed like an hour until I was done crying and then he set me down on my bed. Took a tissue to wipe his face and gave me the box to clean up mine. My mom scheduled an appointment with her gynecologist for tomorrow morning, they are going to run a full pregnancy test and do an ultrasound because girls my age may have a tropic pregnancy where the fetus is in the ovary not in the uterus or something like that.
Starting point is 00:15:29 She told me a girl my age can have all sorts of serious complications so getting to the doctor is the first priority. My daddy has been friends with Mike's parents for more than 25 years, which I guess is why we grew up so close as friends. He is going to talk to his dad tomorrow after we are sure of everything and then we will sit down together to talk about what happens next. There will be no other discussions about this until after the doctor's appointment. I really appreciate the thoughtful and supportive advice from everyone. You really saved my life this afternoon because it gave me something to find. focus on other than thinking the worst about everything like I was doing this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I really love and appreciate my parents too. I can't believe how cruel some people can be to their daughters, that is just awful. I also read up on Planned Parenthood and am ready to give a presentation on all of their services thanks to the great information some of you provided. I'll give you an update tomorrow morning when I get back from the doctor. I am exhausted right now, mentally, emotionally, and physically drained of all energy. My mom wants me to sleep with her tonight just to be safe, so I think I'm going to put on my jammies and say good night. Thanks again, I really owe you all so much and that's a debt I don't know that I can ever
Starting point is 00:16:47 repay. Update 1. I wanted to give everyone an update about this morning. So I am pregnant. It finally hit me what all that meant and I was happy, sad, confused, overwhelmed, and upset. all at once. I went to see a gynecologist for the first time and that was terrifying, she was so nice but it hurt and I felt so violated. My mom said, you think that is bad, just wait until there are 10 people working there while you are giving birth, that made me throw up. I threw up for 20 minutes. It hurts so much. So I am pregnant. There is a big
Starting point is 00:17:26 problem with it that I don't really fully understand. Everything has been a blur and and I can't really get everything that everyone is saying. I have an extra uterine pregnancy, they said the baby isn't where it is supposed to be, like in the extra uterus, makes no sense, or in the Philippian tubes. The baby won't grow there and it will cause bleeding and a lot of medical issues so I have to get an abortion. I don't have a choice because it might kill me or cause serious issues.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I threw up when I heard this too. I've been throwing up all morning and so dizzy. My mom and dad met with my friend's dad last night when I was asleep. I thought we were going to do this tonight, but they thought it would be best. So Mike, my friend, was at my house at 7 o'clock this morning with my favorite donut and a cup of tea. He knows me. I cried as soon as I saw him and told him I was so sorry. And he hugged me and said no, this was my fault.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I should have insisted on the condom or told you no until we were more prepared. I said you didn't even want it and he responded I wanted it more than anything. But didn't want to let you down or do something wrong, you are so special to me. I fucking died right there. I started crying at like 7 o'clock and haven't really stopped yet. It is probably the hormones but the puking and crying haven't stopped since 7 o'clock and I feel so great about what he said to me, like those are the most magical words that I've ever heard. You are so special to me, the way he said that, the feeling when he held me.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Oh, M.G, what the fuck is wrong with me? I am pregnant and my pregnancy will end around 2 o'clock today. I am at the surgical center waiting for my mom's gynecologist and another doctor to arrive. I feel so alone and so sick. I'm a mess. I'm thinking about Mike right now and I wish things were different. I wish I saw him before the way I am thinking of him now. I hope that this doesn't ruin our friendship. I hope this doesn't ruin me too. I feel sort of good that the decision was made for me, like this wasn't meant to be. It was an at-fault accident that I caused. Oh God, I am so sick to my stomach and my body hurts. My heart hurts. My brain hurts. A doctor or nurse just came in to draw a line on my stomach and she touched my BJ to check for something and then left.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't know what she was doing but my mom had to go to the other side of the curtain for it. The nurse told her that I would be taken down the hall in a few minutes, so I need to wrap this up. I've never been so nervous or felt so small and helpless as I do right now. Everything is outside my control right now. I'm getting anesthesia, or however it is. spelled in a few minutes so I'll say by and check back if I'm still alive after the procedure. Update 2, I made a post on Monday when I found out I was pregnant. I was totally freaking out and got some great advice that really saved me from doing something
Starting point is 00:20:36 completely stupid. So on Tuesday I found out I had an ectopic pregnancy, something I had never heard of before, and needed to have a surgical abortion that afternoon. That went very well, according to my mom's doctor, and I was able to do. to go home after it was done. I'm not sore but just achy and crampy and bleeding a lot. This week is a blur. Right now I'm feeling so lonely and isolated and afraid. I haven't been to school since Monday morning and need to go back tomorrow. There are only a few people who know I was pregnant and had the abortion. Those are my parents, my friend's parents, my doctor and his staff, and that's it. I haven't said anything to my friends but they keep
Starting point is 00:21:20 asking why I'm not in school and I don't know what to tell them. I have to go back tomorrow and I feel like there I'm wearing a letter of shame because of what happened. I want everything to return to normal, but I know it can't. I'm going to need to figure out what to say to people and how to deal with things if someone finds out. I heard there may already be a rumor about me being in the hospital and don't know if someone heard something or saw me there or what it's all about. How do I deal with this shame. I feel like such a terrible person right now because of what I did. I practically begged my friend to have sex with me and when he did I got pregnant and had to tell him and then he was all nice and supportive but I haven't seen him since Wednesday morning when he stopped on his way
Starting point is 00:22:03 to school to give me some flowers and I think he texted me yesterday but I wasn't up to talking to anyone because I'm sick and crampy and disgusting. How can I go to school tomorrow? Should I text my friend back or wait for him to get back to me. What should I tell my friends and teachers? I think they will know what happened just by looking at me. I don't look the same. I don't feel the same. I don't think I am the same as I was.

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