RedHanded - #1 BLM - George Floyd

Episode Date: June 3, 2020

This episode focuses on the murder of George Floyd. Places to donate and petitions to sign: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/#petitions Black Voters Matter: https://movement.vote/funds/black-voter-fund/ The George Floyd Memorial Fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd   Act Blue:https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bail_funds_george_floyd NAACP Defense Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/about-us/ Fair Fight: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/fairfight-2020-dtd Recommendations to watch: The 13th  They See Us Now 4 Little Girls I Am Not Your Negro Freedom Riders Southern Rites The Force The Central Park 5 Unseen Traffic Stop Full report of complaints against Chauvin: http://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/27-CR-20-12646-complaint.pdf The Derek Chauvin flyer analysed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/derek-chauvin-flyer-accuracy/ How Black votes are being suppressed: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/07/is-america-a-democracy-if-so-why-does-it-deny-millions-the-vote https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/07/black-voter-suppression-rights-america-trum Sources: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-murder-manslaughter-conviction-police-minneapolis-fbi-federal-a9539816.html https://www.npr.org/2020/05/31/866428272/george-floyd-reverberates-globally-thousands-protest-in-germany-u-k-canada   https://www.startribune.com/mike-freeman-faces-new-challenge-in-case-against-derek-chauvin/570898612/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52861726    See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and may have changed quite a bit by the time that you hear this. By now, you will certainly be aware of the horrific footage of George Floyd being murdered by four police officers in Minneapolis in the US. The video shows George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man, handcuffed and laying on his front in the street. As three officers hold him down and a white police officer, Derek Chauvin, forces his knee into George's neck. Chauvin and the other officers, Toto, Alexander, Kyung and Thomas Lane held George Floyd like this for almost nine minutes. For the final three minutes of this ordeal, George wasn't even responsive. Before he lost consciousness, George Floyd begged the four police officers, please don't kill me and I can't breathe. The passerby who shot the videos also

can be seen and heard asking the police to stop. But they didn't stop and Chauvin was still kneeling on George Floyd's neck when the paramedics arrived. By this point George Floyd no longer had a pulse and any attempts to revive him failed. George was taken to Hennepin County Medical Centre and pronounced dead an hour later. The video of the murder shot by the members of the public was almost immediately circulated online and although Chauvin and the other three men were all dismissed the following day, it still took four days before Chauvin was finally arrested. And let's be clear, there were multiple angles, multiple videos, all showing the murder. There was no ambiguity about what literally happened.

And let's talk about the footage itself. Aside from the obvious soul-shaking horror of watching a man crying out for help while four men murder him in the street, something else really disturbed me when we watched it. It's the look on Chauvin's face. I don't even know how to explain it. It looks like he's almost excited, like this is thrilling for him. But most importantly, I couldn't identify a moment in that video where he looks worried or concerned. Leave alone for the fact that he's killing a man. But to me, he never even looks scared, even when George Floyd has lost consciousness. He knows that there will be absolutely no accountability. He kneels on George Floyd's neck for nine minutes

for the final three, like Hannah said, he's not even responding. And he still does it. The look on Derek Chauvin's face, the best word I can use to describe it, and Rihanna actually pointed this out in her tweet, is one of total entitlement. This is a man who looks like he knows that the system will protect him. So after George Floyd was pronounced dead, the four officers went back to the police station and simply said that he had been resisting arrest and that's why they had had to restrain him. But it was soon discovered that they were lying. Using the footage from CCTV from the surrounding shops, all of the CCTV showed an unarmed George Floyd putting up absolutely no resistance to arrest. The evidence was clear.

The footage of what happened seemed indisputable, but prosecutors were dragging their feet. And in a frankly jaw-dropping press conference, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman came out to say that while he condemned the actions of Officer Derek Chauvin as, quote, horrific and terrible, he added, again, direct quote, but my job in the end is to prove he violated a criminal statute and there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge. What can that possibly be? I just don't know. What other evidence could there possibly exist, apart from what you see, that could possibly suggest

or support this not being a criminal charge? I don't know. And how much of a physical threat is an unconscious man? Yeah, he's handcuffed as well. And there are four of them. And he's unarmed. So lethal force and excessive force, all these kind of things, it's about what's reasonable.

How could anybody argue that this was reasonable, given the situation? I just don't know. It's about what's reasonable. How could anybody argue that this was reasonable, given the situation? I just don't know. It's baffling to me. And also, the method that Chauvin used has been confirmed is not permitted by the Minneapolis Police Department, and nor is it sanctioned by any police agency. So again, what is the evidence that this isn't criminal? I don't understand. I guess what's also important to state though at this point is that police in Minneapolis are however allowed to use neck restraints that render a person unconscious. That seems like a lot to me and yes you can talk about better training and all of that. But I feel like that gives people a lot of leeway to do whatever they want and then fall back on that and on that guideline. In the Central Park Five episode that we did with Tracy Clayton from BuzzFeed's Another Round and also Netflix's Strong Black Legends podcast, Icon, she said in that episode, she was like, I accept that if I am in any sort of situation with the police, I may not make it out alive.

And that was a year ago, over a year ago. I think it was nearly two years ago. Yeah. But like, when has it not felt like this for black people, though? Overpolicing, police brutality, disproportionate killings of black people at the hands of police officers. It's been a part of American life for as long as there has been in America. And don't get me wrong, I'm not letting the UK or other countries off the hook for this. We have serious problems here as well. Go back and listen to our episode on Stephen Lawrence. The London Metropolitan Police and many police forces around the country are frequently accused of and prove themselves to be

institutionally racist. Our home office just a few months ago was found to be institutionally racist. And also the police here use very aggressive stop and search protocol that again disproportionately impacts black and dark skinned men. I have a younger brother who probably couldn't count the number of times that he's been stopped and searched by police for seemingly absolutely no reason. But coming back to the US, the stats are clear. Over a thousand people last year in the US were killed by police officers. 25% of them were black. Even though black Americans make up just 12% of the population. You know, I think if it walks like a duck and it sounds like a duck, it's a fucking duck.

I think that the situation with this is like you can't deny systematic racism within policing in the US. You just can't. I think that is the theme of this entire episode, is if it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck. It's a fucking duck. That's this entire episode. Yes, you're right, Hannah. Well done me, Monday morning. So we don't know what Mr. Freeman is referring to when he's talking about this other evidence that doesn't support a criminal charge, because this evidence hasn't appeared. We don't know what it is. We don't know whether it's a duck or not. And Mr. Freeman has since tried to walk this statement back.

But he said it. And I think for many people, the moment those words spilled out of his mouth, the fear began that yet again, like we've seen time and time again in cases like this, that these men would avoid any kind of punishment or accountability and George Floyd and his family would be denied justice. And Minneapolis is a city that has seen this happen before. Just three years ago in 2017, police officer Geronimo Yanez was acquitted on all charges in connection to the fatal shooting of 32-year-old Philando

Castile, a black man. And also, Mike Friedman has form. It's not the first time that this Attorney General has failed to prosecute a cop who killed an unarmed black man. In 2018, he decided against prosecuting the officers who shot and killed Thurman Blevins. And so because of this, the people were starting to lose hope that the judicial system would do its job. So people mobilized and protests hit the streets in Minneapolis and soon spread to other major cities across the US. With public pressure

mounting, finally, four days after the death of George Floyd, and remember, the video footage didn't surface days later. Some of it was fucking live streamed. It was immediately circulating. But it still took four days before Derek Chauvin was finally charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. So third-degree murder in Minnesota is described as so, quote, whoever without intent to affect the death of any person causes the death of another by perpetrating an act We know we've talked about this lots of times on the podcast before.

Second-degree murder would need you to show that there was intent to commit murder. And first-degree murder, you would have to show that there is intent as well as premeditation. Premeditation is very hard to prove. As we've seen time and time again, intent is also very hard to prove. If I was less cynical, I might say that those charging Derek Chauvin are going after him for third degree to make the charges stick because it would be easier to prove in a

court of law than intent and premeditation. I wish that that was the reason and that I could say that but we have seen very aggressive prosecutions before on this show so I feel like how is there not intent? I don't know when you keep your knee in a man's neck for nine minutes, three minutes of which he's not even responding. And other people, including him, are begging you to stop. I don't know. I don't know what else he could have thought would have been the end result of that personally. I just think, you know, and I could be wrong here and maybe it has happened, but I cannot imagine a situation where you have a video of someone killing another person

from multiple different angles taken by multiple different people and the perpetrator isn't a policeman where that person doesn't get first degree murder. I can't imagine a universe. And that's the thing I think take out the fact that Derek Chauvin is a police officer if they were both civilians what would this be tried as? I would find it hard to believe that this would be tried as third degree murder but the problem is here is that all of the research shows that officers in the US who kill while on duty are rarely charged and even more rarely convicted.

So if they're saying, look, we need to go with some charge, we're going to go with third-degree murder, I would like to think that they're doing it to make the charges stick. But they're not, in my opinion, strong enough charges at all for what you see in that footage. That is without a doubt. And if they are convicted, they very rarely receive jail time. And if they do, it's not for significant sentences. And the reason is multi-layered. Officers often just claim that they felt their lives were at risk and therefore lethal force was justified. And typically, juries and judges tend to give

police officers a lot of leeway and a huge benefit of the doubt. The police unions are also very powerful in lobbying for their members. So although the charges against Chauvin, if he is convicted, would mean under Minnesota's sentencing guidelines that he should get at least 12 and a half years in prison and a maximum of 25 plus four for the manslaughter charge. We just don't know what will actually happen. These are the state charges against him, but Chauvin is also now under investigation by the FBI as to whether he and the other officers violated George Floyd's civil rights. If Chauvin is charged and found guilty on these federal charges, he could face a much greater penalty because under federal law, anyone found guilty of depriving someone of their constitutional rights resulting in their deaths can face up to life in prison or be sentenced to

death. But almost immediately after this charge was placed, I felt like the people were let down again. The autopsy from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office found, quote, no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation and ruled that, quote, underlying health conditions contributed to George Floyd's death. It feels unbelievable. It feels to me as if this autopsy was in some way used to justify the fact that George Floyd wasn't like healthy enough to have a knee pressed into his neck for nine minutes while three men held him down. They're basically saying like he died because he was restrained but because he had underlying health conditions. I find that despicable and the Floyd family are now pursuing

an independent post-mortem. So we'll have to wait and see what the results from that say. It's like they're kind of sort of implying that he would have dropped down dead that day anyway. The report basically says that George Floyd died of cardiopulmonary arrest without explaining what caused this. And I cannot stress how important this is. The autopsy will be of the utmost importance at any trials in the future. So I'm very glad that the family are pursuing

another independent post-mortem being conducted. And so as the wheels of justice creakily turned a few degrees, protesters rightfully went out to stop asking and start demanding change. As people became ever more disill the pain and the struggle of generations, centuries of trauma and brutality that the black community in the US has faced. I don't think it's my place to be telling people how they should be feeling, what's just the right amount of disruption that they should be causing or how they should be reacting. Let's be clear, I am not inciting violence. I think violence will enable those who wish to stamp out this

justified civil unrest the tools to vilify all protesters and lump them all together and do away with this cause. And there are agitators in the crowd who are hijacking this opportunity to cause chaos. It is also important to stress that George Floyd's family have called vocally and loudly for peace. But coming back to the protests themselves, do I think the civil disruption has had an impact? Absolutely. Without the protests, I do not believe for a second that Derek Chauvin would have been arrested. Also, let's not get confused. The civil rights movement in the 60s was incredibly violent. And back then, Martin Luther King himself was labelled as a thug.

And again, I just don't feel like it's our place or anyone's place to be telling people how they should be responding when people say on social media, oh, why can't the protest just be peaceful? I could stand here and name multiple peaceful protests that have happened. We don't have time. So I'll name you one name, Colin Kaepernick. He knelt while the national anthem was playing, a song was playing, and he has not played football since 2016 because all of the managers of those teams colluded to push him out

because he peacefully protested. Tell me what could be more peaceful than taking the knee during a song? I mean, you couldn't write the sicker irony of that anyway. You reap what you sow, and when a group of people are consistently met with violence and police brutality, the way in which black Americans are, and when you look at the way in which many of the police forces and the National Guard are behaving, dressed as if they're going to war, tanks rolling down residential streets, cars plowing into protesters, footage of people standing

outside their own houses being fired at, ask yourself not why these protests have become violent, but why they wouldn't have. The role of the police and the National Guard surely is to de-escalate. It doesn't seem that in many of the situations that is what is happening. When you look at the footage of these protests, I honestly cannot believe some of what I'm seeing. The police, the National Guard, and now with threats of military intervention, there are so many pictures and videos of the

police attacking, and that's the only word I can use, attacking protesters, peaceful protesters as well. Peppers spraying masses of peaceful protesters using tear gas, flash grenades. I was horrified when I saw that footage of an old man, he's not even part of the protest, walking down the street. They pushed him over. They are attacking people who are posing no threat. Imagine for a moment if this was happening in another country. Imagine the way in which that would be reported in America, especially if it was a developing country. I mean, it's unbelievable. The police have even taken to doing things like shooting journalists with rubber bullets,

arresting journalists. I mean, it's unbelievable. And yes, there have, of course, been people at the protest carrying out acts of violence. Randomly attacking police officers who aren't doing anything at a protest is not okay and I think a very small number of people out there would think that that is acceptable. But the police are meant to be there to protect the people. It is a false equivalency to say well the protesters are doing it so the police have to. The police are acting like they are at war with the American citizens protesting. And this is the huge problem,

because there exists a massive power dynamic between the police and the protesters and normal civilians. It's unbelievable. The system is completely broken. These police officers are acting like they've been given carte blanche to do whatever they need to to restore peace. And obviously, the irony is not lost on me that to bring about peace, they seem to be just attacking everybody who is there. The system is broken. Things need to change, but that change needs to come from the top. It comes from accountability. And yes, also, we have seen glimpses of hope during these protests. On Saturday night, there was a police officer who was separated from the rest of his squad and protesters surrounded him to protect him from those who would perhaps become violent towards him.

And also, we've seen really heartwarming footage of police officers who have taken off their helmets, laid down their batons and marched with protesters. But this isn't enough. Nothing changes until the system changes, until there is real accountability. And it is hard to see where that comes from right now, especially when you have things like Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York, going out on TV and saying that he was proud of the way in which the police have dealt with the protests. When he was shown the footage of a cop car that I'm sure you've all seen ramming into protesters, he said the protesters started it. This to me fundamentally misses the point of the power dynamic that exists between civilians and the police. Let's get back to George. The other massive problem in this case is the total

lack of leadership. Trump, the commander-in-chief, speaks no words of healing or unity or justice. Since he announced his plans to run for office, Trump has been agitating the racial divides and tension in America, all for his own political gain. And if you disagree with this, still, even now, we cannot help you. If you just take a brief glance at his Twitter, among the tweets of vicious dogs and unimaginable weapons, one tweet in particular stands out. So after the second night of demonstrations

when protesters got right up to the barricades of the White House, the following night, Trump tweeted, Tonight, I understand, is Make America great again night at the White House. This is a loud and clear dog whistle to his white supremacist followers, whom if you will care to remember, he called very fine people. He wants his fans to show up and counter protest the George Floyd protesters. What does he think that will achieve apart from an ego stroke for him and more people getting hurt? Could there be less responsible leadership? I don't think there could be. Instead of calming the situation, he continues to drive further division. His language in his

tweets while he hides in his bunker is always the police has done a great job controlling them. The governors need to dominate them. The authorisation is stark. So coming back to the police officers, the argument being thrown around as usual is the incredibly dull, it's just a few bad apples. And if by bad apples you're saying that it's just those officers who have killed someone using excessive force while on duty then sure but when all of the other apples cover them up and protect the bad apples and the whole system is built to avoid accountability for bad apples and deny justice then the whole fucking barrel is rotten and should we just turn this rotten barrel over and have a peer at the creepy crawlies running around underneath it. Because this isn't Derek Chauvin's first outing. In 2008, he shot a 21-year-old unarmed black man called Ira Latrell Tolles. In 2011, Chauvin shot Leroy Martinez, a native Alaskan man. He was placed on administrative

leave for this, but welcomed back to the force with open arms. And he was also a part of a group of officers who, in 2006, shot and killed 42-year-old indigenous man Wayne Reyes. Also based on currently known information there have been 18 reports against Chauvin for other brutality complaints like use of excessive force and infringement of civilian civil rights during his time at the Minnesota PD. 16 of those times, absolutely no action was taken against him at all. What we have seen from this case, though, and from all of the many, many, many, many other cases out there, is that undeniably the law is applied in the US

very differently to black people as it is to white people and to police officers. Beyond all of the statistics that are out there, if you still need proof, here is just one that we witnessed from the protests. At one of the protests, a white man turned up with a hunting bow and arrow. He then proceeded to point this at protesters. Luckily, it looked like he didn't really know what he was doing. And before he was

able to hurt anybody, a group of protesters stopped him. Then he wasn't arrested. Nothing happened. He was let go. There is footage of him pointing a bow and arrow. I'm talking about a wooden one. I'm talking about a hunting bow and arrow at protesters. After he wasn't arrested, he went off and spoke to the media and he told them that he had been attacked by two black men, which wasn't true. The majority of the protesters who stopped him were white. He said he was attacked by two black protesters because he had said all lives matter.

That's categorically not what happened, but there you go. That's the way in which he was dealt with. Meanwhile, during the protests, 1,600 people so far have been arrested, including a black CNN reporter who was quite obviously there as press. He identified himself, he was given no explanation, and he was arrested. Once again, it was caught on video. Oh, in fact, it was actually live-streamed because it was happening as they were still rolling. If you still think that this is not a race issue, that race doesn't play a role in this,

I don't know what to tell you, honestly. But even acknowledging that there is deep-rooted systemic racism that exists in the US seems too much for the establishment. National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien went on CNN last night, so Sunday night, and claimed that there was no systemic racism, just a few bad apples. And to that I would say, get in the bin, you liar. Because this is about more than police brutality. The justice system in the US is contaminated by rampant racial prejudice. The electoral system has been engineered to oppress black people and other minorities. And the entire economic system is swayed in a way in which black people are subjugated. And that is exactly why the system

would rather allow such levels of civil unrest to rage on and on night after night instead of arresting, charging and convicting four wretched men. They're not famous, they're not politicians, they're not rich, they're not celebrities. they are just four men and they still protect them and this is because if they start to hold men like that accountable and they start to pull out the pieces of the whole privilege status quo game of Jenga that society is the entire thing is going to collapse and that's why it's so important to them to protect these men and that's exactly why it should be so important to all of us that they are held accountable. And so we want to say that we absolutely stand with the protesters

in their demands for justice, not just now, but from now on. And as for what happens next with regards to Chauvin and the other three officers, who almost definitely must be charged for justice to feel like it's been done. We will have to wait and see. Yeah, we are going to have to just wait and see. If you are protesting, there are protests in London this week. Please, please be safe. We're still on lockdown. We're still in the middle of a global pandemic. Be as careful as you possibly can. Definitely. And

that's actually a really good point. The protests have now started in New Zealand, in Copenhagen, in Toronto, London, Berlin, Ireland, and probably many more places by the time you hear this. And it's because it's incredibly easy for us, for all of us, to feel repulsed and disgusted by that footage of the murder of George Floyd. But remember that this is an everyday reality for black people. Many of us can compartmentalise the anger. We watch the video and we say, oh my God, how horrific. Someone should do something. I can't believe this is allowed to happen.

But ask yourself, aside from the social media activism and going to protests, what else can I do? And the answer is that we must educate ourselves as to what's really going on and understand that this is about more than just police brutality. This is about structural violence and institutional racism that exists everywhere and permeates every layer of society. And next time you vote in an election, at any level, make sure you understand the policies and history of that person you're voting for. Will they raise black people up? Don't vote based on just maintaining a status quo that benefits you because remember racism isn't just hate, it's protecting your own privilege at the cost of

other people, it's apathy and indifference to other people's suffering. So we are definitely going to leave you guys a bunch of resources in the episode description below and we urge you to take a look. We are also going to be donating to both the George Floyd Memorial Fund and the Black Voters Matter Fund, an organization dedicated to helping black and marginalized people ensure they can vote. And if you think that voter suppression of black people and other minorities is not happening, I will leave an article in the episode description below. Please, please read it. Activism is vital, but so is legislation.

And that comes down to who is in power. For example, segregation in schools was abolished in the US after three years of activism, as well as political change. It had to go all the way to the Supreme Court. So for voices to be silenced at the ballots is just yet another way for the status quo to be maintained. In the show notes, we will also leave you guys with some documentaries that we recommend everybody watch. We actually mentioned this in the episode coming out next week, but go and watch the documentary The 13th.

And Hannah, you had another one, didn't you? 14 Days in May is a much older documentary. I think I first watched it when I was 16 at school and it felt old then. And that follows a young black man who's on death row and it's the last few days of his life. And as you go through the documentary, it becomes very, very apparent that he didn't do it. So give that a watch as well.

A friend of mine actually put on Instagram this morning that her company has given everyone the day off and they are instructed to take the time to educate themselves about the Black Lives Matter movement. So that's what we can do. It is not for people of colour to explain to white people what the problem is. White people need to be responsible enough to educate themselves. And with that, we will leave you guys. So we're going to leave a link to lots

of resources, like we said, that you can do some reading on. Go check out those documentaries. They are incredibly powerful. Also, if you want to feel like you are really doing something, if you can't get to the protests, and I know not everyone can or feel safe and protests aren't for everybody. So if you can make a donation, we will leave links to places that you can do so. Also, if you want to sign petitions, I know it's been shared on our social media groups. The people on there are doing fantastic work raising awareness for this. We will also leave the links in this episode description that you guys can check out. And yeah, I would just end by saying, take care of yourself,

but also take care of each other. If the people who had been there had not filmed what happened, there is no way that Derek Chauvin would now be charged with third degree murder. So we will leave it at that. And I know there's going to be people who disagree with this. I'm sure we're going to lose lots of listeners to whom I would say thank you and goodbye to everybody else. This is a very difficult topic consuming social media right now. I would just say, please be responsible in the way in which you discuss this with other people. Be aware of how your comments might make them feel and try your very best to be empathetic and try your very best to not be apathetic. So yeah, bye guys. Bye. So get this, the Ontario Liberals elected Bonnie Crombie as their new leader.

Bonnie who? I just sent you a profile. Her first act as leader asking donors for a million bucks for her salary. That's excessive. She's a big carbon tax supporter. Oh yeah. Check out her record as mayor. Oh, get out of here. She even increased taxes in this economy. Yeah. Higher taxes, carbon taxes. She sounds expensive. Bonnie Crombie and the Ontario Liberals. They just don't get it. That'll cost you. A message from the Ontario PC Party. They say Hollywood is where dreams are made. A seductive city where many flock to get rich, be adored, and capture America's heart. But when the spotlight turns off, fame, fortune, and lives can disappear in an instant.

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