RedHanded - #3 BLM - Darren Cumberbatch
Episode Date: September 8, 2020This month in our Black Lives Matter series, we discuss the death of Darren Cumberbatch. Darren was a quick-witted and friendly electrician who was punched, kicked, pepper-sprayed, and tased ...by British Police while suffering from Acute Behavioral Disturbance in the toilet of a bail hostel in Nuneaton. This is Darren’s story. The Justice4Daz campaign Facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Daz/  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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We will be doing these every month for the rest of 2020
because it's important and we should not just forget about it
because our Twitter feeds are clear.
So we've got a UK one for you this time
because it does happen here too, contrary to popular belief.
So some of you, if not all of you, might have heard the anecdotal evidence
that you're much more likely to be arrested in the UK
if you are black.
In fact, in metropolitan areas like London and Manchester
that have a high police presence,
it's a bit of a running joke
that you don't really need to worry about the police
unless you are black.
And while these statements are sickening and tasteless,
it turns out that they're also true.
And if there's anything that our government
love, it's to compile a report. Because it takes up loads of time, and by the time it's out,
no one cares anymore. But multiple reports published on this particular topic have proven
the fact that black people are disproportionately targeted by police. So let's consider a paper by
the Ministry of Justice published in 2016 called
Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic Proportionality in the Criminal Justice System in England and Wales.
This report showed that black women and women of mixed ethnicity were twice as likely to be
arrested by the police in England and Wales. On top of this, young black and adult men were around three times more likely
to be arrested compared to their white counterparts. Another report in 2017 commissioned
by our former PM David Cameron and carried out by David Lammy, a black MP and also my MP, and
I love him. This report found in the UK, the colour of your skin has a measurable impact on how you
are treated at every single stage of our justice system. And Nazir Afzal summed it up in an article
that he wrote for The Guardian this year. Here's what he said, quote, people from black, Asian and
other ethnic minority communities are absolutely victim of a system that disproportionately
suspects, arrests,
charges, remands, convicts and imprisons them. And Nizir Afzal, for those of you who don't know,
is a former chief crime prosecutor for the North East here in the UK.
The sentencing data that LAMI analysed for this report showed that BAME defendants
were more likely to receive prison sentences for drug offences
even when you adjust for previous convictions.
And I don't know if BAME is a term that is used everywhere. It is used very, very much so here in
the UK. Those of you who don't know, it is what we've been referring to. So BAME stands for Black,
Asian and Minority Ethnic. And so since LAMI released this report in 2017, not much has changed. Because in January 2020, research by
the Sentencing Council showed that, specifically when we look at drugs cases, if you are from a
minority, the odds go up that you are searched, arrested, remanded and convicted up to 40 to 50%. That is a remarkable statistic. Essentially, these reports
prove that if a BAME man and a white man with the same criminal history, because remember,
we're saying they're adjusting for previous convictions and things like that. So they've
got the same criminal history. They're facing the same charges. The case has been brought forward with the same level of evidence.
The BAME man will be far, far, far more likely to be stopped, to be arrested, to be charged,
to be denied bail, to be convicted, and to be sentenced to prison.
So this is the point at every single stage of the entire process.
A BAME man, and specifically a black man, is far more likely to not have the
case dropped. But it only gets worse, because of those arrested in the UK, black people are also
significantly far more likely to receive poor and even dangerous care. Because despite making up only three percent of the population here in the UK
black people make up for eight percent of deaths in police custody I mean what the fuck is happening
one of those people who died while under the quote protection of the police was Darren Cumberbatch
and it's very important to point out that while you are under arrest, you are supposed to be safe and protected. That is the
law. Darren was black. He was a qualified electrician. He was quick-witted and would
help anyone who needed it. However, it seems there was nobody to help him when he was at his lowest.
Darren served a prison sentence and was released on the 30th of May 2017.
And despite extensive research, we couldn't find out what this prison sentence was for,
which would suggest that it wasn't particularly serious.
However, things were looking up for Darren.
He had a trade and that gave him a good chance of employment upon his release.
And he'd found somewhere to stay at the McIntyre House Bail Hostel in Nuneaton. A bail hostel is a government-run household slash hostel for ex-offenders,
sort of like a halfway house, and offenders stay in there after their release from prison.
These hostels provide a structured routine, a curfew and aim to give aftercare to prisoners.
However, people who do live in these hostels quite often are not well received by the communities
that they are based in.
So despite things looking good for Darren's rehabilitation into day-to-day life,
there were concerns around his mental health.
He was known to suffer from anxiety and depression,
neither of which were presumably helped by his stay in prison.
And neither of which are particularly rare.
It's one in four people.
Exactly. Like you said, it's not rare in the
outside world. And in prisons, it is even more of an issue because mental health issues are
absolutely rife in the UK prison system, just as they are in any prison system in the world.
And here in the UK, though, the Prison Reform Trust states that you are over eight times more likely to die from self-inflicted injuries
than someone living outside of prison. So just take that level of sort of self-harm or suicidal
ideation that happens once people enter prison. That is, again, another remarkable statistic in
today's story. And on top of this, between 2016 and 2017, 40% of prisons in the UK had been given
little to no training on how to deal with mental health. So let's just consider that. You are eight
times more likely as a prisoner to die from self-inflicted injuries in prison. Mental health
is rife, but almost half of prisons in the UK haven't received any training
on how to cope with mental health. I don't really know what to say about that. So it's not exactly
hard to imagine that Darren came out of the UK prison system probably a little bit more anxious
and more depressed than when he'd gone in. On the 10th of July 2017, at around 12.23,
the staff at McIntyre House phoned Warwickshire Police saying that Darren
wasn't okay. He was acting erratically and appeared paranoid, even afraid. Given the close relationship
between Bale Hostels and the police, we can assume that they arrived fairly quickly. And when the
police did, Darren locked himself in a small toilet cubicle, which, to be fair, if you weren't feeling fantastic and in a state of panic
and then suddenly the police arrive at the place that you live, toilet cubicles are pretty safe,
but the police who arrived at the scene admitted in court that they didn't plan on what they would
do when they arrived at the hostel. They had no plan when they went in to get Darren from the
cubicle, and it showed. PC Stephen Jones, an officer at the scene,
said it was clear to him from the moment he got there
that Darren was much more physically strong than he was.
However, he also admitted in court that he had considered
Darren was suffering from acute behavioural disturbance, or ABD.
So ABD is an umbrella term used to cover various states of physical and mental illness
surrounding the use and withdrawal of drugs, as well as many other contributing factors.
So ABD is one of those things, perhaps that we've all seen, but never really known the name for.
Perhaps you see someone on the street, maybe after a night out, and perhaps they look wide
eyed and they seem like perhaps they're delirious or maybe even hallucinating.
ABD is probably what they're suffering from.
It's a scary condition for anyone to be in,
and I think anyone who's been around it will agree that people suffering from ABD
look like they need some serious physical and mental medical attention.
However, the attention Darren received wasn't really what anyone would expect.
Allegedly, the officers who responded to the call
made an effort to calm Darren down,
but this wasn't before they called for seven more officers
to arrive with tasers.
Seven officers for one man.
Obviously, none of us at Red Handed HQ
or Red Handed Towers are experts, but it feels like if
you've got someone who looks anxious, distressed and could possibly be having quite a bad trip
stuck in a toilet, it seems like the best thing to do is probably give them some space and try
and talk them down until they tire out. How many times has someone at a festival taken too many
drugs, locked themselves in a port-a-loo and lost it? So many.
Eight people with tasers don't turn up and fucking restrain them for hours on end. So the officers, who outnumbered him at least seven to one,
opened the door to the cubicle.
And when Darren resisted arrest,
despite being in such a state of delirium,
he never would have been able to understand the concept of arrest,
they tased him three times,
sprayed him with parva spray, which is essentially a posh pepper spray, and punched and stamped on
him over 15 times until he submitted. And we have to remember that this man is showing clear signs
of hallucination, panic, fear and delirium. He's locked himself in a toilet to feel safe and was
then bundled by seven men who kicked him, punched him, pepper sprayed him and tased him
into submission. Yet again, we are not experts. And there are some reports out there that say
that Darren had pulled a handrail off the toilet and he was using this as some sort of like
rudimentary weapon against the police. But even if that is true, it's like we spoke about in the
George Floyd episode that we did a couple of months ago.
The power dynamic that exists between police and the people that are being policed.
Somebody attacking does not give the police or should not give the police free reign to attack with equal force.
I'm not saying being a police officer isn't a dangerous job.
I'm saying that it is a job that has been chosen and it's just the lack
of compassion here that's being shown to someone clearly having a severe mental health crisis
and potentially some sort of psychotic episode is just stunning. On top of that it is hard to
believe that Darren would have been treated this way if he was a white man stuck in a toilet having a crisis.
As we said at the start of the episode, if that were the case, why would black people be dying so disproportionately at the hands of police in custody? So while Darren was beaten up in a toilet,
the police told the hostel staff that they needed to call for an ambulance.
But despite admitting in court that they had recognised Darren experiencing ABD, or at least delirium, the officers didn't ask for that
information to be relayed to the ambulance team. Once the police officers had restrained Darren,
he was taken in a police van, notably not an ambulance, to the car park of the George Elliot
Hospital in Nuneaton, where he was then further restrained by four officers,
despite already being handcuffed.
After these officers had restrained his thighs and ankles,
he was taken into A&E.
By the time he entered the emergency department,
his temperature was dangerously high,
he was hyperventilating,
his heart rate and temperature were skyrocketing.
And I can't imagine how panicked he must have felt.
So once in hospital Darren
informed the staff that he had taken half a gram of cocaine and cannabis. He begged for help and
for his handcuffs to be loosened but despite this he was left mechanically restrained for over an
hour. After eventually receiving the medical attention and compassion he desperately needed, Darren did start to calm
down and show some signs of recovery. But tragically, as a result of his injuries and
state of high stress, he suffered from multiple organ failure. And Darren Cumberbatch died nine
days later in hospital on the 19th of July 2017. And I think the point here is, yes, he had taken
illegal drugs. Yes, he was having an
episode. He probably was perceived to be an aggressive person. The point is he died of his
injuries inflicted upon him by eight police officers. That's the point. You know, since when
is taking drugs a death sentence? It's not. This is the thing, because they tried to say the same
thing with George Floyd and say, oh, well, he was on meth and all of this. But it's like, you cannot attack somebody, restrain them for hours and then say, well,
if anybody takes those drugs, they're going to die. As if these people are just walking around
waiting for that to happen. This is as a direct consequence of your actions. This seemed
disproportionate given what was happening here. And it's not the restraining that's the issue.
I don't think it's the stamping.
Yeah, the punching and the stamping.
My issue with the restraining is the restraining by multiple other men.
When you're already handcuffed, you've already been disarmed.
He's not a threat to you anymore.
You've tied his legs together and he's been handcuffed.
He's not even going to be able to run away.
Why are people still holding him down?
Between the 28th of May and the 25th of June 2019,
a jury heard evidence surrounding Darren's death
and concluded that the police restraint had contributed to Darren's death.
They also concluded the force used in Darren's arrest was,
quote,
probably avoidable and more could have been done to de-escalate the situation.
The officers involved in the case admitted in court to punching Darren over 15 times during
his arrest, and they had little to no plan when they entered the situation. Despite all of this,
nobody has been charged in connection with the incident. And as far as we can tell,
no disciplinary action whatsoever has been taken against the officers who killed Darren Cumberbatch.
So the report from 2017 that we mentioned at the start of the show called for urgent reform.
But so far, no such reform has taken place. So anyone who was surprised to see people here in
the UK also take to the streets following the murder of George Floyd, remember that Darren's
story is just one of many. And we here in the UK still need to wake up
to the Black Lives Matter movement
just as much as our friends across the pond.
So if you would like to support Darren's family
there is a Facebook page that we have linked below
which aims to seek justice for Darren
and many others like him
who have died while under the protection of our police.
That's what it comes back to I I think, that once you're arrested,
it's the police's job to keep you safe.
And quite clearly, they did not do that here.
Yes, and it is an incredible rarity here in the UK,
just as it is in other countries and in the US, as we've discussed,
for police to be prosecuted if people die at their hands in police custody.
So we'll leave some articles and some interesting sources we found as well as where you can support Darren's family,
as we said in the episode description below. So take a look at those. And there are a plethora
of other cases exactly like Darren's here in the UK, which again, we'll link below. So have a look.
Like we said, gosh, I can't even remember
in which episode, some episode, no country is in a position to be patting itself on the back for the
way in which it deals with racial issues. We've all just got a hell of a lot of learning to do.
That is our third installment of our Black Lives Matter episodes. As we said, we'll be doing an
episode like this every month for the rest of 2020.
Keep learning, keep reading.
Yeah, exactly.
We'll see you guys in the next episode,
whatever that may be.
See you then.
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