RedHanded - Bonus - October Patreon Round-Up

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

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model service that you can head on over to right now patreon.com slash red handed where you can sign up to a tier so from five dollars ten dollars fifteen dollars every single month and the more you give the more extra bonus content from red handed that you will get directly onto your podcast player of choice unless you want to watch the video content in which case you've got to watch it on the website so this month we have got for your listening pleasure some samples from our monthly segment in the news where we talk about all the wild and wonderful things that are going on in the world of true crime news at the moment this month we talk about dog the bounty hunter and his cameo in the gabby petito and brian laundry case then we've got a snippet from our Under the Duvet podcast

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that we release for $10 and up patrons which is a full length episode of red handed and this month we covered the case of none other than Raoul Mote with all of his gaza plus a fishing line with a rotisserie chicken on it glory so if you like the sound of that take a listen to this hi guys um my name's leah and i just thought i'd send you this after listening to the under the duvet yesterday i have had an almost mirror image experience recently from Dorothy's one and um but I would tell you about it because it's been making me think negatively about myself no Leah stop that what could I have done differently what did I do wrong nothing um and it just made me see well maybe that's it with me so met this guy on Tinder. First mistake.

I had known him for about like half a lifetime ago. He's aged well, so, you know, looks better now. So went on dates. He made me. Men always do. It's so unfair. Oh, yeah. So unfair.

I'm like, okay, I reckon I've got five years before shit hits the fucking wall um my shit is already all over the fan I think I peaked about 24 it's only downhill from here oh I'm like right but three years probably to find somebody and be like okay look just remember how I look now because it's going away okay sorry let's go back to Leo. Laugh all the time. He's so funny and charismatic. He was really affectionate. He was very good in bed, which also helped. I didn't jump into that straight away. You know, I waited and then it happened naturally.

And then we were seeing each other like every two days. And he went away with his family for like I don't know four days and he still made an effort to speak to me I don't think the signal was that great but he did I spoke to him at least a few times a day then I went away for a week to see family in England and um you know text me every single day all that stuff so when I got, he had went out and got me my favourite juice from America. And we were in the supermarket and I had mentioned that I like a certain kind of sweetie. And then he kind of disappeared for a minute and came back and he bought me it. You know, little cute things like that and then I made this whole state dinner for his birthday and bought him some rum and he just went

all quiet and was on his phone the whole night and so it just made me feel so awkward and then you know in the morning he was like what was wrong with you and all this stuff so I just kind of said what were you doing on your phone he started to blame me like I was being awkward and then the next time we met up after hardly speaking for a couple days I just said to him what's the issue what you want to do and he goes oh can we just be friends I said yeah I'm not friends with people I fuck so probably not And I feel like it's completely my fault But after listening yesterday I realised He's not there

He's not where I need to be So I appreciate you guys And I love the podcast Bye My mouth is a gate Firstly can I say Leah I fucking love your accent I love it I love the scottish accent

it's my favorite possibly next okay i don't even know where to start unpicking this okay firstly it's not your fault it's not your fault because there were again there's not red flags until there are red flags and as soon as there was a red flag you were like okay what's going on and it is that 180 of the like everything is great everything is great and then suddenly it falls off yeah it's not the like gradual decline where you feel like is this fizzling and we're not making enough it's that instant snap that it is so shocking because you feel like you've just been hit by a bus so i absolutely empathize 100 with like why that is such a fucking slap in the face um it's like having a bucket of cold water thrown over you my theory birthdays are always yeah fucking pinch points birthdays christmas

they are like pinch new years new years these These are times of when these kind of 180 situations happen in my opinion. And I think what's happened here, and this is my opinion on the matter, is A, I don't think you did anything wrong. B, I don't think he didn't like you. I absolutely do think. You don't make that, you don't make that kind of sustained effort if you don't like that person. I absolutely believe that he did. The problem here is, again, you said it yourself Leah, it's a very mirror image of like what happened to me, where I think what people do is they meet somebody, they get very excited, they get very invested very quickly, and they make all this effort because they want the other person to like them. They want that validation from the

other person. Then what happens is you start to like them because they're saying all the right things. They're making all the right noises. They're like doing all the right things. It's, you know, going and getting this, going and doing this. And like knowing this is special, remembering things that are important to you, all of this kind of stuff. And of course you then fall for that person because that's what they wanted. That was the point of what they did. It's all marketing. I'm not saying they don't mean it I think they mean it as much as they can mean it at least in this situation I think like in my situation I think he meant it as much as he could mean it at that time then what happens is you then make an effort for his birthday

rightly so because you think it's it's a thing then they get freaked out because then it's starting to dawn on them what they have done that they have led you both down this path where there are now expectations from you on them and expectations that they think you have to deliver for them yeah and then suddenly you cooking them this steak dinner which is a very incredibly thoughtful thing to do. It's not just like, oh, here's a fucking teddy bear I picked up at the petrol station. Effort, rum, effort. Again, I assume that's something that you guys have talked about. And suddenly he starts to feel freaked out. Suddenly it's like, oh my God, this is moving too quickly. And the whole like him being on his phone, blah, blah, blah. This is what I don't like because I don't want to sound like I'm just making excuses for this person. Like, again,

it comes back to what I was saying you should have the fucking integrity and the self-awareness to know what you are and aren't capable to commit to at that point i it sneaks up on you as the person who is the like partner in that situation i don't understand how it sneaks up on that person no unless they have a total lack of self-awareness how one day you can be like i really like this person i want to be in a relationship with them i want to do this that and the other and then one morning to wake up and be like whoa it's all gone a bit deep maybe it's the male brain maybe it is maybe it is because i i i have never been in a scenario where i haven't had a creeping dawning upon me that i didn't want to see a future with this person and my behavior slowly changed and i

realized i got out of that within a week or a few days I would just fucking be saying all this crazy shit one day about how much I like them and then to go cold turkey immediately it really and you know what Leah I'm gonna tell you a story I've previously not told this story before because it was a bit too raw but this is actually the reason for my active break from dating. And it's quite similar. So I'm not going to go into an enormous amount of detail, because my mom's probably going to listen to this. Karen, I do not want to hear about this from you at all.

So someone I went to school with, there have been vibes for years, years, years, years. He's a social worker. So you would assume he had some sort of moral compass but as we go on to find out he doesn't so while i was living at home waiting for my flat uh sale to go through i lived at home for five months there was not a weekend i didn't hear from him pursuit five months of pursuit um and then i moved back to london uh go for for sleepover didn't have sex thank you very much but just went for sleepover and then he just fucking vanished and like we have the same group of

friends right like I see him all the time um and so in my mind I was like oh like that's kind of an insurance policy like he's not gonna fuck about with me because I see him all the time and our friends are the same it's a high risk yeah so I was like he's not gonna do that to me like we've known each other for 20 years oh no my friends oh no my friends so uh then uh he just vanishes goes super like ice cold and I was like what the fuck is this? So then I ascertain that he will be at a party that I am also at. And I wish I could 100% remember what I said, but I can't because the police are now actively looking for Gabby. And on the 19th of September, tragically gabby's remains were found in wyoming and you know her family's worst fears were realized that she was in fact dead and yeah a massive manhunt like i

said has been underway for brian laundry with still no success and like i said the fbi were involved the police were involved volunteers and also of course Dwayne Chapman dog the bounty hunter got involved so Dwayne Chapman is an interesting character because like I said we obviously grew up in Britain never watched it but I know exactly who he is which is quite an interesting um quite an interesting look up his face to remind myself yes quite an interesting cultural phenomenon but I feel like and this is the thing I'm not to look up his face to remind myself. Yes, quite an interesting cultural phenomenon. But I feel like, and this is the thing I'm not enjoying, is that a lot of people are obviously very fascinated by the Gabby Petito case. There's nothing wrong with that.

I think it is a very compelling case and it's obviously very tragic. But a lot of people are, I think, slightly getting too much on the dog the bounty hunter bandwagon because he is out there now and he has um it's like a bargain bin hulk hogan yes and he is um actively what's the word actively giving his skills up to find brian laundry so i thought it'd be interesting to just have a quick chat about who dwayne chapman actually is because uh i didn't know any of this and i think let's not romanticize this man so he dropped out of school at the age of 13 and he joined a biker gang called the devil's disciples at the age of 15 obviously immediately into hardcore criminal activity drugs mules that kind of stuff and then

um in 1976 he was involved in the murder of a uh a black man and he says that he didn't know that the people he was with were going to murder this man even though he had gone with these people in their truck while they were all carrying guns and racially abusing this man and so i don't really know what he thought was going to happen. They weren't going to give him a high five, were they? No, they definitely weren't. So after this man was shot and killed, Chapman was actually convicted,

along with the other men who were there, of first degree murder. But he only served five years in prison, presumably because he wasn't actually the one holding the gun or anything. But still, he was convicted of first degree. So I don't really understand how that happened. But anyway, once he got out he started working as a bails bondsman and also as a bounty hunter so i feel like most people probably know what this is um but just in case you don't obviously if you get arrested um and charged

then uh you would be asked to possibly post bond or post bail, which is when you have to pay a huge amount of money as like collateral to say, let me go home and then I'll turn up to my court dates as you have requested. Most people can't afford their bail or their bonds. So what they do is they go to a bail bondsman and you pay the person 10% of your total bail money and then they post the rest.

I think you only ever have to post 10 bail um so i think either your family members do it for you or you pay it or you get a bail spondamon to do it if your family aren't going to bail you out oh see that's not my understanding from my i might be wrong but what i understood was that say your bail is 10 000 pounds then you pay the bail spondamon a thousand pounds and then they put up the ten thousand and if you turn up to your court hearing they get their nine thousand they get all the money back and they keep the they get the like um the benefit of that extra ten percent but if you don't turn up to your court hearing and you run off then they come find you and they will fucking murder you

because now that bail bondsman has lost all that 10,000 pounds. Okay. So then, because you forfeited it when you didn't turn up. I thought, and again,

it might be, because in the, the live show story, which I'm not gonna give the game away, the bail is 10 grand, and his mum posts a grand, and he's allowed to go.

Oh, weird. But maybe it's a state-by-state thing, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, basically, this is the risk that the bail bondsman takes and this is the risk you take if you go to a bails bondsman because if they if you don't turn up they will send a bounty hunter after you right got it to fuck you up um because it's basically like borrowing money from the mafia they've lost out now so the structure is, you don't want to be doing this. You don't want to be, you don't want to be not turning up

to your court dates in this scenario. So this is what Chapman was doing. And I think a lot of people think he's been famous for like ever, because when you look at him, he looks really old and he kind of looks like he's been famous for decades. But it's kind of not actually the case

because it wasn't actually until 2003 that Dwayne Chapman actually became famous and basically the way he did it again just kind of feeds into that whole life on the run romanticized I'm a biker but I've got these morals kind of vibe so basically he's working as a bounty hunter in 2003 when a man named andrew luster which i hate as a surname for a man who is a sex offender yeah it's not great no not ideal um andrew luster basically committed a series of crimes and then ran off to mexico and duane chapman as well as a couple of other men went after him they caught him and they were trying to get him back over the mexican border into the u.s and at this point they get caught by mexican authorities and i thought

this was really fucking hilariously awful basically mexico were like we don't know about that guy we'll send him back to the u.s like whatever you're basically over the border off you go and thankfully authorities did arrest andrew luster and off he goes but they all but the mexican authorities were like we're not letting you go to duane chapman and the other men who had caught him they said bounty hunting is illegal in mexico so we are going to charge you with um aggravated kidnapping or something like that like a illegal unlawful kidnapping something and we're going to uh basically throw the book at you because we can't just have americans coming into mexico doing whatever the fuck hunting people hunting like full stop that's absolutely the last thing mexico needs no exactly so it looked like these guys were going to go down

for it but back in the us this case got a lot of coverage like i said it was very the kind of um a criminal that andrew luster was this kind of man fighting for freedom, dog the bounty hunter. He'd gone to Mexico, tracked him down. It was very like, you know, felt like a movie to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then, you know,

he got a lot of public support behind him. Politicians actually came out in support and spoke to Mexico and they were like, just let him go. Give us the dog back. Yeah. So Mexico dropped the charges in the end.

And Dwayne Chapman came back to the US where he was rewarded. let him go give us the dog back yeah so mexico dropped the charges in the end and and uh dwayne chapman came back to the u.s where he was rewarded with a show dog the bounty hunter which is very smart for whoever whichever producer came up with that and jumped all over this uh story that was unraveling in the press exactly so the show actually ran for 10 years i mean no wonder we've heard of it yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh this is despite the fact that about halfway through his tenure uh duane chapman was caught using some rather unsavory racial slurs but uh apparently didn't matter we just keep going and uh i think since then he's had a variety of shows that have all sort of failed and now he is

kind of irrelevant in apart from the fact that people know who he is he's had a variety of shows that have all sort of failed and now he is kind of irrelevant. Apart from the fact that people know who he is, he's not really relevant anymore. So I think his whole hunt for Brian Laundrie is a desperate attempt for relevance and possibly a new show. Which, you know, if he finds Brian Laundrie, then fair enough. But also, let's just be aware of who Dwayne Chapman is

before everyone leads him is the only thing i want to say because he talks all the time about how he's done like armed robberies blah blah blah and you know i'm a hard man i've been on both sides of the law but he never talks about how he was arrested on the first degree murder of a probably racially motivated murder yeah right i feel like that should be information that everyone is given yeah so there you go um yeah and and right now dog the bounty Hunter and the police, no one seems to have caught Brian Laundrie.

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Raoul Moat did have a plan. And just a couple of hours before his release on the 1st of July 2010, Moat described this plan to a fellow prisoner as follows. Get a gun, shoot Sam, shoot her new boyfriend, shoot Sam's mum, shoot a social worker who had previously pissed him off, shoot the psychotherapist who had given him a bad report. I mean, plan. It's a plan. It is a plan. It's not a particularly well thought out or nuanced plan. No. But a plan it is. it is and you know i actually initially thought the biggest hurdle in this plan rao moat is you getting a gun but apparently once on the outside step one of the plan get a gun didn't take long now whilst moat went to a local barber to get a mohawk cut into his hair even though it's not part of the plan, he's off script now, his close friend Carl Ness picked up a sawn-off shotgun that he had sourced while Moat was in prison. Again, I feel

like I wouldn't even know where to begin to get a gun in this country, but I guess he has got connections to the criminal underworld. And then at 2pm the same day, Mote went to a local fishing shop, where he bought a bag of round lead balls, normally used as fishing weights. At home, Mote opened up the shotgun cartridges that had come with his sawn-off shotgun, and poured out the small lead pellets inside the cartridges, designed for killing birds and rabbits. This is some mafia shit, man. This really is. I mean, I had no idea.

I mean, well, I'm saying this like I should or would or could, but I didn't, and we're learning a lot here. But don't do any of this, please. Don't put this learning into action. Just listen. So then he replaced what he had poured out of the cartridges with one big lead ball in each cartridge. So he's like, we don't want all this fucking, like, dust

that's just going to, like, fucking kill a rabbit. We're going to put a giant lead ball in every single one and then put it in a fucking shotgun, a sawn-off shotgun. And then that evening, following information that Sam's new boyfriend was also a martial arts instructor, Moat and Carl Ness drove around Newcastle going to various dojos and local sports centres looking for Sam's new man. But they had no luck. I know I'm not supposed to be rooting for Real Mo here, but I really wish it was like went around all of the dojos and did a training montage. I'm surprised there isn't a

movie based on this. Maybe there is. That is definitely like Eye of the Tiger. It's the Eye of the Tiger time. Like a part of this story. Yeah yeah yeah and there's definitely loads of steps in Newcastle that you could run up and down. Oh I bet. I don't actually know Newcastle very well. Have I been to Newcastle? I've only been once. I've not been. I've been to Liverpool. I haven't been to Newcastle. Famously different places. Very famously. It's because I was trying to figure out in my mind where I had actually been, and I'd been to Liverpool, not Newcastle. The next day, Moat, Ness and their mutual friend, Coram Arwan, who they called Sean for whatever reason.

I know whatever reason. Racism. They drove to a local B&Q where Moat bought a tent. Ness and Arwan then dropped Moat off with Moat's oldest and bestest friend, Anthony Wright. That evening, Anthony Wright could tell Moat wasn't doing so well. He looked gaunt. So Wright did what any of us would have done and took him for a KFC, but Moat wouldn't eat it. Throughout that evening, Moat kept calling Sam relentlessly,

but she didn't pick up. Until finally, 11.24, Sam and Moat had the first of three life-changing phone calls. Sam spoke to Moat for a few short minutes the first time, briefly arguing with him about their dogs before hanging up and leaving Moat enraged. Then Moat called her again 17 times before she finally answered. The call became heated and only lasted a few minutes. Moat was sat in his van with Carl Ness and was well and truly headed for the edge.

Moat got through to Sam one final time and this time he spoke to her mum and her neighbour Jackie. Sam's mum and Jackie both berated Moat and told him that he and Sam were over and then hung up for the final time. Then Carl Ness drove Moat and his sawn-off shotgun to Sam's mum's house in Burtley, just south of Newcastle. Sam and her mum were having a drink with the window open.

Moat crept across the garden with the shotgun and hid under the open window, listening to their conversation. Soon it became clear Sam's new boyfriend was also inside. Around an hour later at 1am on Saturday the 3rd of July Carl Ness text Moat telling him they'd all miss him if he died or went back to prison. Moat replied saying no problem mate you're the best. Moat then text Carl Ness again saying that both Sam and Jackie were inside slagging him off and that it was hard to hear given all they'd been through together. Ness didn't respond to this text. Moat then text Carl again asking him if he should climb through the window but again there was no reply. So Moat again text saying that he was going to wait outside and then quote they would see who's laughing not the sounds of a sound mind no obviously we

don't really know that much about this guy carl ness but i'm like he's saying things like you're not looking that great we would miss you if you died or went back to prison which is a hinting like don't do anything crazy then why are you buying him a fucking sawn-off shotgun and driving him to his ex's house it's conflicting but men but men do like a 180, we've learned. They do, and not in a, like, cool skater way. Over an hour and a half later, 22-year-old Samantha Stobart and 29-year-old Chris Brown left Jackie's house, giggling and holding hands. They walked past Moat without seeing him and actually made it onto the road

before the six-foot-three Mote rose up out of the bushes and loaded two cartridges into his shotgun. This must have been quite the sight. Mote was gaunt. He'd not eaten properly in weeks. He hadn't slept properly either. And the hair in his menacing mohawk was starting to fall out. Chris stood in front of Sam shielding her. Mote raised his gun and fired a shot. The giant lead ball hit Chris in the chest

damaging his heart and liver but amazingly he managed to stay on his feet and stumble out into the road and he started to run. Mote unloaded the second barrel of his shotgun, hitting Brown in the back of the neck. Brown fell to the ground and Mote stood over him. Mote reloaded his gun and shot Christopher Brown once more in the head, killing him instantly. Mote then turned to see Sam looking out at him from the window of Jackie's house. And this thing, he doesn't even like come to his senses after he's done this because he just picks up his gun and shoots Sam, hitting her in the stomach. As Sam hit the floor and crawled away, Moat began running. He ran towards where he thought Ness would be waiting for him in the van. But when he got there, Ness and the vehicle were both gone.

So Moat kept running until he found a phone box where he phoned Anthony Wright and told him, I've done it and the police are trying to kill me. Wright asked how he knew that Chris was dead and he asked if Sam was okay. Moat replied, quote, listen aunt, he's gone. And then reassured him that Sam was okay but starting to get the gist of it. Eventually Mo found his way to a taxi rank and got in a cab. He directed the driver to the house of Carl Ness's stepdaughter where he met up with Ness and Awan. All three of them got in Awan's blacked out Lexus and drove to where Ness had left the van. They put the tent in the Lexus and drove off. After a 45-minute drive, the trio pulled over a small patch of woodland in the idyllic rural town of Rothbury. Rothbury would soon host the largest police manhunt the UK had ever seen at the time.

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