RedHanded - Episode 147 - Limos, Lies & Lithuanian Lovers: The Murder of Nisha Patel-Nasri

Episode Date: May 14, 2020

29 year old Nisha Patel-Nasri had it all; she was happily married, she ran 2 businesses and she even found time to volunteer as a Special Constable for the London Metropolitan Police. So the entire nation was horrified when one night in 2006 Nisha was stabbed to death in her own home...  MERCH: www.redhandedshop.com  References:  Footage of Fadi Nasri making appeal: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1544419/Arrogant-killer-Nasri-lets-slip-sly-smile-TV-appeal.html  http://www.justjustice.org/prank.html https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/jun/25/ukcrime https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/may/28/ukcrime2 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/policewoman-killed-by-husband-was-a-secret-vice-madam-842432.html https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/hiring-a-hitman/590620/ https://www.oxygen.com/murder-for-hire/crime-time/how-hitmen-work-contract-killer-research-psychology https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-equation/201603/the-psychology-murder-hire   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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but yeah we'll get off the topic now because as ridiculous as all that sounds, we've got quite the ridiculous case for you guys today. So let's get right into it. Nisha Patel Nasri seemingly had it all. At 29 years old, she had two businesses, a house, and even found time to volunteer as a special constable for the London Metropolitan Police. She was also happily married. Before we move on I feel like perhaps I should explain what a special constable is at the London Met because I didn't exactly know this before I did

the research on this episode. Basically it's I think it's all part of like do you remember David Cameron's like whole big society thing yeah where he was just like people should do some stuff to help out their community but we're not going to pay you you should just do it so that's basically what a special constable is this is not laughing at people who are special constables I think it is remarkable because basically what they ask you to do is come along and volunteer for 16 hours a month as a special constable. You don't get paid, you get training and you get your uniform given to you. And guess what? You get all of the same powers as a police officer. Really? Yes. So it's not like, you know, those PCSOs, those like

police community officers. Yeah, yeah. The ones that pour away your vodka when you're sitting in the park. Yes, I'm very familiar with those ones. Exactly. And a quote, according to harfordshirepolice.com, they are only sort of there to manage sort of antisocial behaviour. They can't arrest you. They can't really do anything. They can just sort of ask you to move along. But a special constable can arrest you. So they have like basically the same powers as a police officer, which is very interesting. So that's what Nisha did. She had her two businesses. She had all this going on, but she still volunteered to be a special constable. And as we said, she was also married. And on the 11th of May 2006, the day after their third wedding anniversary, Nisha and her husband, Fadi Nazri,

were having dinner at their home in Wembley, northwest London. After dinner, Fadi asked Nisha if it was alright with her if he went out to play snooker with his mates. Nisha was tired and she just wanted to go to bed, so she told Fadi to go, have fun, but not be home too late.

So Fadi headed out, and Nisha got ready for bed. Just before midnight, soon after Fadi had left, Nisha heard the door downstairs opening and it's like she had a feeling, an intuition that it wasn't her husband. And normally there'd be no need to worry about intruders. The Patel Nasri's house was on a quiet residential street of Sudbury Avenue. But Nisha was already on edge. The week before, there had been an attempted break-in. So, Nisha headed downstairs to investigate.

There was an altercation. Neighbours heard screaming and rushed out to find Nisha laying on the driveway outside her house. Within minutes, police were at the scene and to their horror, they realised that one of their own, Special Constable Nisha Patel Nasri, was bleeding profusely from what looked like a stabbing. There was blood everywhere, all over the driveway and spilling onto the pavement. Suddenly, another car screeched to a halt outside the house and Nisha's husband ran out, trying to get to her. The police held him back as he yelled for Nisha but when he saw all the blood Fadi Nasri became even more hysterical.

At the same time Nisha's brother Katen Patel who lived just one street away got a call from a neighbour about what had happened. He ran to Nisha's house and on the way he noticed that there was blood dripped along the pavement he was running on. Nisha's house and on the way he noticed that there was blood dripped along the pavement he was running on. Nisha was immediately rushed to hospital but it was no good. Within 30 minutes of arriving she passed away. Nisha had been stabbed in the groin just once but it had severed her femoral artery and she had just lost too much blood. Now accounts vary on how long you can survive if your femoral artery is cut. It obviously depends on things like how quickly you get medical help, if the person who's been stabbed is moving around a lot after the cut and also their blood pressure

and how extensive the cut actually is to the artery. But it is the major artery in your leg. And the prognosis is never really very good if that gets cut. So it seems quite deliberate, doesn't it? It doesn't seem like someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Precisely. And also, I mean, this isn't like exactly related, but I did think it was interesting because it's obviously been stabbed in the groin. But like, I obviously walk Blue in our local park every day,

and I always see this other woman with a dog. And I never knew what she did. It was just always, like, hi's, bye's. The other day, obviously, everybody's, like, a little bit lonely and wanting to chat to people. Turns out she's a fucking police officer. And not only is she a police officer, she works vice in South London. Oh, my God.

That's a fucking shit commute. Jesus. I know. I know. Fucking miles. I was like, mate, South London. But she used to be on vice. But she's recently, as of like a few weeks ago, moved into gang work in South London.

Oh, wow. And basically, she was telling me that we're talking about the Charlene Downs episode, the child exploitation, the gang work that's related into there. She said, you know, we really see it in a totally different way in London. We don't see it like how those other cities see it. And gangs here are also completely different. And she was like, one of the things that shocked me the most when I first moved into the sort of work I'm doing now is how often the stabbings are just like one or two stabbings and they're always

around the anus or around the private parts and she was like it's interesting because stabbing is already hypersexual like we talk about that a lot and then also to purposely pick those places and is it like further humiliation of that victim because if they do get seen or they do get tended to by medical help it's like another humiliating sort of position they're going to have to be put into even be treated. And we were just having a chat about that. She didn't really have a conclusion as to why. But possibly it's also because that's where the femoral artery is. My sister lives in South London and there's been quite a few shootings on her road.

And she spoke to the police about one of them because she physically couldn't get into her house. Like the whole road was like cordoned off and they were like and they told her that the shootings were there was three shootings two kneecaps and one in the bum and they do it because it's very painful but it's not going to kill you wow I just think I wasn't expecting that to become the topic of conversation when I just went out for a casual dog walk but that's nuts nuts exactly you should do like a, who's that person who does the Walking My Dog podcast? Is it Jonathan Ross?

Someone does a podcast and they just take their dog out with another famous person and they record the conversation. You should do that with the police lady. That's it. I think she's keen. She's currently obviously, she's currently working from home.

So maybe she'll be up for just some random chats. So yes, mild detour aside, as we said, Nisha was unfortunately now dead. So this became a murder investigation and the murder investigation of a special constable at that. It was front page news and of course the police were under a lot of pressure. So DCI Nick Scholar from serious crime command was put in charge. And right from the off, things struck Nick as odd. There was no sign at all of a break-in at Nisha's house on Sudbury Avenue. So the person who had killed Nisha had not broken into the house, but there was evidence that they

had definitely been inside. So how did they get in? Had the door been left open? Or did they have a key? There was also no mess in the house. The blood was mainly all in the driveway. So Nisha had clearly been stabbed out there. And then the question was, why? Was it a robbery gone wrong? But if so, nothing was taken.

Yet there was about 350 quid in cash plus credit cards and phones all in the living room. It seemed like the only thing missing was a large knife from a knife box in the kitchen. Police also spotted the blood trail outside the Patel Nasri home that Nisha's brother, Kayton, had noticed on the night of the murder. They went door to door to try and find anyone who might have seen someone fleeing the scene. And again and again, they got the same description. People reported seeing a heavyset man running from the house that night. He had his hood up, but witnesses were sure that it was a black male. Two other witnesses also came forward to say

that they had seen a man matching this description walking up and down the street twice that night, before the stabbing. When police spoke to Fadi, he told them that there had been an attempted break-in at the house a week before. And he also told police that a set of house keys had gone missing around the same time. According to Fadi, someone had turned up at the door the previous Saturday night and tried to trick Nisha into opening the door. They had then used a crowbar to try and gain entry before finally giving up and leaving. The description of the would-be home invader matched the description of the man that had been seen running away from the scene of the murder. So it appeared that the break-in the week before was linked to Nisha's murder. Whoever it was had seemingly got their

hands on the house keys, broken in and taken the knife from the kitchen. Also, like everywhere you read about this case, everybody reports on the fact that the knife and the knife box were a John Lewis knife box. I don't know why that is repeated everywhere. Very strange and unnecessary fact, but there you go. Have it. It's all about the little details. That's journalism. You're right.

Journalism. John Lewis is like totally fucked now, isn't it? Because of Corona. It's like gone into administration or something. Oh, mate, yeah. If John Lewis can't survive, bloody hell. I don't know. I think, I mean, all of the high street is RIP I think yeah oh sad time that's

another pound I know I can't help it let's chuck them so that night when Nisha had obviously heard these sounds she had come downstairs to see what was going on and perhaps this assailant because we don't know exactly what happened because obviously Nisha didn't survive what happened but perhaps this assailant had seen her and then tried to flee and maybe Nisha had followed them. And this person had stabbed her outside. And this narrative does kind of fit because Nisha's family described her as being, quote, too brave. Kayton, her brother, had even asked Nisha to come and stay with him after the attempted break-in. But Nisha had said there was no way whoever it was was going to scare her out of her own home.

She was also a special constable. So it seems conceivable that Nisha might have tried to chase the intruder down and been stabbed in the process. It's very Kanika Powley, isn't it? Yes, very much so. And if you haven't listened to that episode, what are you doing? Go back and listen to it. But the question still remained. Why was this person there? To DCI Nick Scola and his team, the incident just didn't fit a burglary gone wrong. Like we said, a whole host of like easily liftable valuables were just sat there in the living room. And this person had clearly been inside the house.

And also they hadn't come prepared. They'd come into the house and gone straight to get a knife you were there to do a burglary why would you bother arming yourself like wouldn't you just go in and grab the shit you wanted and try to get out as quickly as possible yeah maybe i can kind of buy that a burglar would always have a weapon on them anyway just in case i can kind of buy that a burglar would always have a weapon on them anyway, just in case. I can kind of buy that. But I think they'd be more likely to bring it with them, not nick it from the house. Exactly. It seems very like, you said you've got a set of keys, you let yourself in, you're organized enough to do all of that. But you don't bring a knife, you take one from in the house, maybe.

And maybe they were planning on taking the knife and then stealing everything else. And perhaps Nisha had just surprised the intruder and he hadn't been able to finish his stealing. But would it honestly have been that much of a surprise when Nisha turned up? I looked this up and apparently, statistically, most home burglaries happen between 10am and 3pm when the house is most likely to be empty, which makes sense. And obviously that's not to say that no burglars break in at night they definitely do and maybe this person was casing the place and they saw faddy leave and then they thought the house was empty and they went in but then surely you would still see the lights on upstairs and maybe even see nisha moving around up there like i don't

know it doesn't seem totally plausible. And also, like, if it was the same person who did the break-in the week before, they know she lives there. They know there are two people living there. I'd never thought about the break-ins during the day thing. But it's so logical, isn't it? Because, like, everyone's at home at nighttime. They're asleep.

So obviously it makes more sense to break-in during the day. I just never connected those dots in my head. No, I didn't. I actually was like, hmm. And I Goog and I googled it and I was like of course that completely makes sense it's like well enough time after people have gone to work starting at 10 a.m and do it before 3 p.m because then the kids are home from school like it makes sense and also if it was the same man from the attempted break in the week before it seems like he had a bigger plan than just running off with a bit of cash and a few credit cards. According to Fadi's story, the burglar had tried to break in and kept going with the crowbar even once it became clear that someone was in the house. Had the intruder been there specifically to kill Nisha? When the police asked

Nisha's family and Fadi about this, her family was shocked. Nisha was a loving, kind person who was well respected and liked by the local community. Nisha had owned and run a hair salon called Perfection since she was 18 years old and she had hundreds of local customers. She had become a special constable specifically to help her community because she felt more people like her, being a woman of colour, needed to get involved with policing to really make a difference. They couldn't think of anyone who would want to hurt their Nisha. But the very next day after her murder, Fadi was at the police station. He said that he thought he might know who had done this. He played the police several recordings

of threatening phone calls and voicemails he'd received in the weeks leading up to Nisha's murder. The messages all seemed to be from the same person, a Scottish woman, and she was fuming. I've heard the clips of these audio recordings and yeah, she's not messing about, she's pissed off. So there's loads and loads and loads of these messages but like we've collected one of the more interesting ones so this person says and faddy's got it on his phone

quote you've made the biggest mistake of your fucking life your throat will be slipped tonight so get your fucking bitch of a wife out of your house now and i'm not joking you fucked with the wrong person here pal so what's going on here? Well, Fadi told the police that he and Nisha ran a limousine rental business together. And apparently, a few weeks before Nisha's murder, he had sold a limo to a Scottish business. And he had said that the sale was agreed upon one condition. That although Fadi and Nisha were selling the limo to these people, the limo was to be returned to him a few times over the next couple of months

to complete a series of rentals that had already been sold. That seems quite complicated and not very logistically sane. Yeah, from Scotland to Wembley, just a couple of times because I've already sold some fucking rentals here. Like, really? Yeah, And if our international listeners aren't particularly familiar with how far away Wembley is from Scotland, the technical term is really fucking far. Scotland's a different country. It's absolutely

miles and miles and miles. We're talking like a six, seven hour drive depending on where they are. Yeah. Not just like a casual limo exchange. Americans are like, that's nothing. I commute six hours in my car. I know. Don't. The Americans and the Australians will come for us over our laziness to drive all the way to Scotland. And as if that wasn't bad enough,

the deal had hit a bit of a snag when the company who bought the limo claimed that the car wasn't in good enough condition when it was sold to them. So they weren't going to return it when Faddy needed it as they had previously agreed so faddy said that he got angry and he went all the way up to scotland and took the limo back i have this hilarious image of an absolutely fuming man driving a limo all the way from scotland to wembley just swearing all the way oh my god thatembley, just swearing all the way. Oh my God, that's exactly it.

But like, there's also the image before that, which is equally funny, because I'm assuming he didn't drive up there because then he's got two cars. So what, just him sat on like fucking train, like the Aberdeen Express, huffing and puffing and scowling until he gets there. I can see it.

And this story seemed to be corroborated by more threatening voicemails left on Fadi's phone. Here's another one we've selected for you. If you value your life, your wife's life, you'll return the car now or I'll come down to your house and break your legs. That's my car, you stupid bastard. Finally, the police had a potential motive and a description of their potential killer. But three days into the investigation, it seemed to be stalling. They had identified the 13-inch kitchen knife as a murder weapon, but it was still missing. And forensics at the house had turned up nothing.

So police decided to go with a public appeal, given that Nisha was not only an officer, but a local businesswoman. Surely someone would come forward. So throughout the appeal, Caten, Nisha's brother, looked calm. He was measured and he spoke at length about Nisha and what a good person she was and how much his family had been devastated by her loss. Fadi, on the other hand, looked nervous. And when you watch the footage, and you can definitely do so because we'll link it in the episode description so you guys can check it out, you can see that Fadi is definitely struggling. He's got a dry mouth. He's constantly biting his lip and chewing the inside of his mouth. He looks fidgety. He looks uncomfortable. That's very clear to see.

And these things were noted. The husband, acting oddly at a press conference, is always going to raise some policing eyebrows. Some even pointed out that as he spoke, he seemed to be letting a sly smile spill over his lips. But when he says, and you can definitely see this in the footage, when he specifically says, quote, someone out there has got a guilty conscience, you definitely see a very slight upturn in the corners of his mouth. Okay, we've said it before on this show.

As much as we all find it really fascinating to pick apart the way in which people behave after a loved one goes missing or is killed, I don't know definitively how substantial it is in proving anything in particular. We all know the infamous Zadingo ate my baby story, the Peter Falconeo case, the Amanda Knox case. People act weird. And there's not really, I don't think, a universal way in which people should or do act that can tell us for sure that they were involved in something they shouldn't have been. And I just think, I don't know, this is the thought I had when we were doing the research. If we can't advocate for lie detectors because there is no universal

physical response to deception, then I don't think I can advocate for this. But when something odd is hinted at, I do absolutely think that it's a lead that should be investigated, but it shouldn't be used as like a definitive, aha, gotcha, you know? No, and I think it's more like a public opinion thing, especially like press conferences. Like I think people are much more likely to be like, oh my God, absolutely guilty. Look at him, which is what we all did with Chris Watts. Yeah. And Mick Philpott. And you were right.

Yeah, exactly. I was actually reading the notes for this because you hadn't really told me much about it. And I got one page in and. And you are right. Yeah, exactly. Reading the notes for this, because I like you hadn't really told me much about it. And I like got like one page in and I was like, fucking husband. But that's not a logical way to like, investigate. No, I think you're totally right. Because if you look at cases where the public and people have definitely been right, because a person has been acting oddly, take for example, the McPhilpot case, the Chris Watts case, and, you know, obviously fucking Casey Anthony case. But like the other times when we've been totally wrong and we've just based it on the fact that this person was acting weirdly, like the Dingo ate my baby case. I'm so sorry, I can't remember her name,

but there is a podcast on it out there if people want to check it out. It's called The Perfect Storm or A Perfect Storm. But anyway, I just think it's almost like we just take shots at it and half the time we're right and half the time we're wrong. So it's like it doesn't prove anything. And Amanda Knox is the classic example of that. Like she's just a weird person in a weird situation. Exactly. So the police started to look into Fadi a little bit more,

but they hit a bit of a wall when they found out that Fadi had a rock solid alibi. He had told police that he'd been on his way to the snooker hall where Nisha had been stabbed and he'd picked up his mate at 11.40pm. Who the fuck goes and plays snooker in the middle of the night? I don't know. Honestly. Wrongans. That's who.

Fucking hell. There is a very suspect looking snooker hall near my house, like literally at the end of my road, and there's a gym above it that's really cheap. But I think they share a doorway. And one of my old housemates was like, oh, like, why are you at Pure Gym? Like, the one up there is, like, much cheaper.

And I was like, there is no way on God's green earth I am walking through that door not doing it. Absolutely not. And I gasped because in my town, there is exactly the same thing. There is a snooker hall and then above it is a fucking bodybuilding gym. And there is an app. I cross the road. I don't even walk past it.

Yeah, exactly that. No, thank you. Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. I don't want your drugs. I don't want your snooker. I don't want your fucking gym equipment. I don't know. I think the reason, possibly the reason they can be open all the time is maybe they don't sell booze

so maybe there's no like licensing issue maybe maybe i mean maybe some of them do i have no idea uh but also they're all fucking fronts for drug dens so that's what they really are shut them all down now we're gonna have the like late night snooker community being like, I'm a really good person and I have a normal job. Go and hang out with the tandem bikers. Let's just alienate one group of people every episode. It's fine. It's got to be done. Tick. Right. So he picked up his mate and then he received a phone call saying that Nisha had been stabbed at around 12.01.

And he just got to the snooker hall. So he got back in his car and drove straight home. The police had checked this story with his snooker friend and it all checked out. His friend even told the police that when the call about Nisha came through, Fadi had shouted, is this a prank? So the police kept searching for the knife. If only they could find that, that might lead them to more clues. Knowing it might be their only hope, the police searched diligently. They were searching back gardens, alleyways, parks, hedges, everywhere. And every day they went further and further out, covering as much ground as possible. And after two weeks of nothing, finally they made a major discovery. In a drain near Sudbury Avenue itself, the street where Nisha

lived, they found the knife. The police only told Caton and Fadi about the discovery. They didn't want word spreading and for the killer to get wind of the fact police were catching up to them. Caton and Fadi were both told not to tell anyone under any circumstances. The police wanted to wait until the forensics on the knife were back before they made their next move. But it was going to take a few days and during this time Fadi called the police and his family liaison officer non-stop. He was desperate to know if they had found anything but the police couldn't tell this seemingly concerned husband much. The results from the knife were pretty non. They had only found Nisha's DNA on the knife,

and the only fingerprints they found belonged to her friend who had visited her in the days leading up to her murder. But this friend was miles away on the night of the stabbing, so that was a complete non-starter. However, there was something else. There was CCTV. By sheer luck, the drain in which the police had found the knife was the only one on the street to be covered by CCTV.

When they checked the tape, they saw a car pull up next to the drain. It stopped for roughly seven or eight seconds, enough time to be dumping the knife. And it's important to say in the CCTV footage, they can't see the person doing it. The car is just slightly out of shot. And also the picture quality of the CCTV was incredibly poor. So the police couldn't even see the license plate of the car. All they could do was identify that the car was a silver Audi A4 saloon. And they did notice that it had some features which made it stand out. The car had an aerial on the roof,

and the Audi A4 doesn't normally have that. Also, one of the back licence plate lights wasn't working. So finally they had something, but there were still more than 18,000 silver Audi A4s in the south- southeast of England alone. It wasn't going to be easy to track this one down. So as uniformed officers were supplied with the description of the car and a ton of postcodes to check out, detectives continued their work.

And soon, an accidental but pivotal discovery was made. So remember that Fadi had gone down to the police station the day after Nisha's death to play the officers the threatening calls on his phone. Well, of course, the police had also taken his phone for further examination. And during these phone checks, the officers had found something very interesting on Fadi's phone. It was a series of sexual photos starring a white lady, most definitely not his wife Nisha. These images seem to have been taken in a hotel room. It screamed of an affair and an affair screams of motive. He's so dumb. He gave the police this phone. He went in there with this phone to play them the fucking recordings and then just

left sexual pictures of him and another woman who is definitely not his wife on there and just gave it to the police what you doing what you doing faddy think yeah i mean i think he is possibly just that arrogant that he didn't think that they would take his phone off him yeah which is dumb as fuck yes you're probably right I think I think he's the like perfect mix of arrogant and stupid exactly like the absolute like the perfect cocktail of moron have you seen that tweet that's like oh have you ever looked at someone and been like oh no one has ever said no to you in your life have they and then someone like commented on it being like, of course I've met these people, I work in banking.

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You can listen to Finding Andy and Finding Natasha exclusively and ad free on Wondery Plus. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. The police asked Fadi about the images and he just denied it all because he's an absolute idiot and he just said I would never do that to Nisha, I just loved her too much. They're on your phone! Unbelievable, unbelievable, he's like a child. But perhaps realising that there was no point in lying, within hours Fadi called his family liaison officer and confessed to the affair. The police discovered that Fadi's secret girlfriend

was a Lithuanian sex worker called Laura Mokhin. Fadi had apparently, while he was married to Nisha, been a paying customer for a while, until the two entered a more romantic relationship. And considering that apparently, Laura charged £200 a night and Fadi, as we'll go on to see, was fucking broke as a joke, it's a good thing for him that she stopped charging. And their official affair had begun apparently just months before Nisha's murder.

But despite the fact that it hadn't been going on that long, Fadi seemed to have been in deep. He was living a double life. He had clearly told Laura that he was incredibly well off and he was splashing the cash on her, taking her to Ascot and even on holidays to Egypt. Once he had told Nisha that he had an uncle who was in Cairo who was sick and he needed to go and see him. But he was actually on holiday with Laura. And guess what? Laura even got pregnant and Fadi started to crumble. Nisha wanted them to start a family, but they weren't having too much success. Police would later discover that apparently Nisha had complained to friends that Fadi would come home too tired to even try.

No fucking wonder. Shag it all over the place. Yeah, yeah. Whoa. Exactly. Of course, they weren't having too much success. I think you actually have to do it to be counted as trying. Poor Nisha. She just had no idea that any of this was going on.

And the police also later found out that just weeks after Nisha's death and after getting his hands on all her money, Fadi had booked a holiday for him and his girlfriend laura to spain lithuania and the us subtle subtle faddy might want to just like sit on that money for a little bit before you start booking very obvious holidays with your fucking girlfriend after your wife's been murdered but But no, again, perfect combination of stupidity and arrogance. And horny. I think we can throw that in as well. And so to the police, this obviously was the perfect motive.

But since Fadi had that kind of rock-solid alibi, the police considered that maybe Laura could now be their prime suspect. But unfortunately, just like Fadi, she too had a watertight alibi. But the police had a crucial motive here. So they kept digging and they started to uncover some new information on Fadi Nasri. Firstly, they discovered that Fadi had a record. In 1998, he had been jailed for nine months. In a lot of places, it's reported he was jailed for dangerous driving.

And yeah, that's not good, but it doesn't really make someone a sociopathic murderer it's just quite reckless but then we discovered that actually what happened is that he ran over a police officer who was questioning him over an expired tax disc so i think that is quite slowly moving into sociopath territory i mean what the actual fuck every single article all the stuff you read about this, whatever information is out there, they bang on about how the fucking knife box is from John Lewis, but hardly anywhere reports what he went to jail for in his, like, previous conviction.

I accidentally found that because I stopped looking because I thought, oh, maybe he was just... Not that it's good to be drunk driving, but I thought that doesn't really connect with anything. But no, he fucking hit a police officer who was questioning him. And then he's also allowed to run a fucking limo company after that.

Why has he still got a license? He was a limo driver when he and Nisha met. I have no idea. No idea what's going on. So it seemed alongside the limo business that he ran with his wife, Fadi had another quite unusual income stream. He ran an escort agency called Seventh Heaven.

No points for originality on that. And this didn't, of course, prove that he killed his wife, but it did raise quite a few questions for the police. Questions that they now put to Nisha's family. Up until the discovery of Fadi's affair, Nisha's family had been super supportive of this seemingly heartbroken man. But now, things were very different. And Nisha's family started to tell the police all about Fadi's odd behaviour at home.

Apparently, ever since the police had taken his phone, Fadi had barely slept. He kept telling them, there are a lot of dodgy contacts in there. If they find them, I'm fucked. They had also seen him taking secretive calls at all hours and even cutting up SIM cards in the garden. Who is this person? Where did he come from? It's madness. Like if you're going to do all of that shit, like, I mean, not fine, but don't do it in front of your dead wife's mum honestly what is he doing and i don't know i really need to kind of i want to paint a picture of who faddy nazi is apart from just like all his stupidity and his past crimes when you watch the documentary or you like google him he comes across like a very confident man like a ladies man he clearly thinks he's hot

shit he clearly thinks he's very attractive. Some of the police officers working this investigation even said, the female police officers said, that he even would like flirt with them and wink at them inappropriately. This is a man whose wife has been murdered and these officers are investigating her murder and he's behaving inappropriately with them. He's just a very strange man. I feel like he has no boundaries around what is appropriate, including not to sit in the fucking garden of your dead wife's family and cut up fucking SIM cards like a moron. I just don't know how I feel about winking in general.

I went through quite a winky phase when I was, I would just wink at people. But I've got over it now. I'm over the winks. You went through a winky phase, like what? Where you would just like wink at people? Yeah. When like, instead of saying thank you. That is amazing.

I love the idea of you just being like, no, I'm going to have a different, I'm going to have my own thing. I'm going to have a thing that's like, just like a special thing for Hannah. I'm just going to wink at people. That's going to be my thing. Yeah. for Hannah I'm just gonna wink at people that's gonna be my thing yeah yeah I'm a winker now also like when you're in a like when you're in like a group situation when we used to be allowed to do that and like you know that your friend is like trying to catch your eye and you know what they're like trying to get your attention about and then you

just wink at them and be like I know I know that you know and you know that I know and we know although together but crucially the rest of the group have no idea because they are wink blind that is good because that is more subtle than what I tend to do when I'm in that same scenario which is just like a head tilt mouth shrug and a nod you do do that that's my wink it's not quite as good an emoji for that as there is for the winky face so I'll give you that but I feel like like when I came back from Korea it took me about six months to stop bowing in every shop I went into so like because there's so much like etiquette about like how you hand over money and all of this stuff and like and if I'm a bit pissed I'll still hand over money with two hands I'm a

bit worried that like when we're allowed out again I'll have forgotten how to maybe I'll just start winking for everything. Maybe I'll stop speaking completely and just wink in Morse code. I think I'm just going to have a breakdown. I mean, honestly, let's see what happens. I think, don't even think about it. Just go out there and let's see what happens. I'm not sure how I'm going to dress myself.

I just live exclusively in pyjamas right now. So that'll be interesting. We'll find out. My sister texted me the other day. She was like, I haven't worn jeans in two months. What's going to happen when I try them on? Is it going to hurt? And I was like, yeah, it's really going to hurt. It's going to be interesting. We'll find out. My sister texted me the other day. She was like, I haven't worn jeans in two months. What's going to happen when I try them on? Is it going to hurt? And I was like, yeah, it's really going to hurt.

It's going to be awful. It's going to be awful. Whole new wardrobe. A beckoning. It's scary times. Just a collection of muumuu's. That's just, that's what I'm going to wear now. Handkerchiefs.

I genuinely saw a woman yesterday when I was walking blue wearing like a teal velvet muumuu. And I was like, where did you buy that? She's my hero. Who is she? Let's find her. Oh, my God. I want it. She looked amazing.

But anyway, so back to stupid, arrogant, horny, fucking moron, faddy. So he's doing all this like SIM card chopping up all of this bizarre behavior in front of Nisha's fucking family. So as soon as I find out about the affair, they're like, fuck this shit. And they tell the police everything. So the police then check every contact in Fadi's phone. And it soon became clear that he did indeed have numerous connections to the criminal underworld. In fact, he'd been exchanging calls with one of those dodgy characters in particular on the day of Nisha's murder a man named Roger Leslie and Leslie was already well known to police he was a local

drug dealer dealing specifically in heroin apparently and he was what's known as an enforcer so you can like you know what kind of image that immediately paints in your mind. And he had numerous convictions for violence and weapons possession. And he also happened to match the description of the person that numerous neighbours had seen fleeing from the scene of Nisha's murder. So, the fact that according to phone records, Leslie and Fadi had been in constant contact during the day Nisha was killed, with a peak in calls coming at the exact time she was murdered. It all seemed very suspicious.

Don't use your actual phone. Ugh, it's like kindergarten here. Like, buy a burner phone. They're not difficult to find. Jesus. I mean, what is he doing? It's like a fucking, you know those murder kits you get? Not, like, to do a murder. I mean like to sit at home and solve a murder. This just feels like a bit of evidence for that.

Here's a phone. Here's some pictures of like a mysterious white woman's thigh in the photos reel. And here are some numbers to some dodgy people. Can you connect the dots? Like what the fuck is he doing? It's just unbelievable. The police even went back to check with faddy's snooker pal and he said that every call faddy had got during their drive that night

had been about the limo business again who is making late night limo calls no body no one i know it was like fucking midnight when they were driving to the snooker hall and faddy had just replied each time i haven got my book. I can't help you right now. Super persistent limo business. Actually, I suppose. I mean, what's the main reason people hire limos is to go to events, right? And events happen at night. So maybe, maybe, but probably not. Probs not pile for that. Maybe. His snooker pal was like, this probably not. Probs not pile for that. Maybe. His snooker pal was like, this is legit.

But the record showed that Fadi was not talking to disgruntled limo people at all. He was talking to Roger Leslie. So the police arrested Leslie. He was a huge guy with a lot of facial piercings. His face is almost totally covered in shiny silver studs. And he told the police that each stud represented someone close to him who had been killed. Sinister.

Isn't that just like the most fucking ominous thing? And it's like the way he says it, that's described by the police officers that I read about. And they were just like, he just says it really matter-of-factly with a deadpan face. Somebody close to me who's been killed. And I do you mean who you murdered is that what you mean yeah i think that is what he means throughout the questioning leslie kept calm and flat out denied any knowledge of the murder the police searched faddy's home and found more mobile phones then

they tracked all of the calls that faddy had made in the six months since nisha's murder get rid of them why are they in your house on i can't i can't deal with it i don't know it's like he sat out and cut all the sim cards up but maybe he accidentally saved all his contacts to his phone rather than his sim and he's like fuck oh yeah and like i just uh i really but i do really need that number for postbox fred so i'll just uh I'll keep hold of that one because I really need it. Oh my God. Honestly, you couldn't make this up. And so when the police were going over all of the calls that Fadi had made, and this is specifically as well after Nish has been murdered, it just revealed a pattern of very suspect behaviour. So for example, on the day

that Fadi was told by the police that the knife had been found, and, remember, he had been told by the police not to tell anybody, he had immediately called Roger Leslie. In fact, he'd called him six times that day, and Leslie had called him twice. They clearly had a lot to chat about. So police were sure that Fadi had informed Leslie that the murder weapon had been found, even though he'd obviously been told not to tell a soul. It was looking more and more likely that Leslie was their man. But the police needed to be able to actually place Leslie

in the Wembley area on the night of the murder. So obviously what they're getting at here is that Fadi has paid Leslie to do it and that's why they're constantly in touch that day and that night, etc. But when police checked Roger Leslie's phone records from the night of Nisha's murder, his phone put him absolutely miles away from Wembley. However, police soon discovered that chatty Cathy Roger Leslie

had been making calls to another associate on that night too. Someone who was most definitely in Wembley that night. It was a low-level criminal by the name of Tony Emmanuel. And the fact that Emmanuel's usual stomping ground was the east of London made his night out in Wembley, that exact night that Nisha was stabbed, all the more suspect. And guess what Mr Emmanuel drove? A silver Audi A4 saloon with a roof aerial and a broken license plate light. So the police arrested Tony Emmanuel. They now had two prime suspects in custody. Leslie wasn't talking, but after three days of questioning, Emmanuel broke.

He admitted to the police that he had indeed been at Nisha's house the night of the murder, but he said that he thought the whole thing was just a drug transaction and the only thing he did was drive the car. He had waited outside the entire time. It was his partner, Jason Jones, who had gone inside. Jason Jones was a new name in this investigation, but not a new name in general. Jones had 75 convictions for violence. And he was also a known associate of Roger Leslie. Jones also matched the description of the man seen on the night of

the murder. Tony Emanuel told police that Jason Jones had told him that there were piles of money in the house. And this was something the police knew to be true. And it was also something that hadn't been released to the press. So it placed Jones inside the house. So the police were sure that Fadi had, as we said, hired Leslie, who had then in turn outsourced the hit. But they needed now to tie Fadi into all of this in a concrete way so that he couldn't just claim it was all the mysterious Scottish limo business.

Because then technically, if he says that, he could try brush it off that the Scottish business had hired Roger Leslie to do it and that maybe he was only calling him to make threatening calls and to warn him or, you know, say, it's really going to happen, we're going to break your legs, etc. So they really need to tie Fadi into this. So the police did a forensic dig through the Patel-Nazri's finances, and they found all sorts of problems. Every one of the couple's bank cards was heavily overdrawn,

and there was no money in their joint accounts. And they were paying around £80,000 just in interest on their debts every year. That makes me feel physically sick. £80,000 in interest. Honestly, I like really struggle to read that. That's horrific. And the more the police dug, the more they found. It appeared that Nisha and Fadi weren't quite as happily married as it had first appeared. Of course, there was the affair. In fact, police discovered that Fadi had actually sold the family home after Nisha's murder and moved into a flat with Laura Mockney, his girlfriend. He's not even trying, is he?

No, he's just like, this is what I want, I'm just going to do it, fuck everything else. So obviously, like we said, Nisha hadn't known about the affair or any of this. But she had confided in friends that she wasn't happy. She'd said, quote, I loved him, but he's a dosser. And she's got a point. Nisha had paid for everything. It had been her who got all of the money to buy their £400,000 house. He hadn't paid anything towards the deposit.

She'd even borrowed all the money for the limo business that Fadi wanted to start from her family. Nisha had even insured her life at Fadi's request for £350,000. So some quick maths told police that with the house, the limo business and the life insurance, Fadi stood to gain a lot from Nisha's death. So nine months after Nisha's murder, the lengthy investigation was beginning to pay off.

Phone records placed Jason Jones at the scene of the murder. He had actually called Leslie moments after Nisha had been killed from Sudbury Avenue. Leslie had then called Fadi. This had been the call that Fadi had acted all horrified about and driven home. It was enough, and although everyone except Tony Emmanuel just no commented everything, the police charged all four men. A year later, the trial of Fadi Nasri, Roger Leslie, Tony Emanuel and Jason Jones began.

Fadi Nasri continued to plead innocence throughout the trial, but when he took the stand, his story was destroyed by the prosecution. The twisted web that had been constructed between Leslie, Nasri and Jones was all too clear in providing means and opportunity. And for the jury, the motive was clear too. The prosecution brought forward witnesses who told the court that Nisha had been thinking of divorcing Fadi. It was also revealed that since Nisha had funded her husband's limo business, it had been registered in her name. And since she had paid the deposit on their home, that was also in her name.

Nisha's family took the stand and told the old Bailey how Fadi Nasri had been, quote, pestering Nisha to either add his name to the business as a partner or transfer it to him. But Nisha, being a smart lady, was reluctant. And guess what? When she died, Fadi Nasri became both the executor and sole beneficiary of her will. How convenient. It's like the plot of a fucking shit daytime movie. Like, how he thought he was going to get away with this.

It literally is. It's like an episode of, like, fucking murder she wrote. Like, all they have to do is go through the phone records and, like, talk to his solicitor. And they're like, oh, it was you. Bingo. I just didn't think murders like this happened anymore. You know when we get that question of, like, do you think criminals are just getting more and more sophisticated because of all of the true crime that's out there? Clearly not. This happened in fucking 2006. It's not that long ago.

So after a four-month trial, finally, in June 2008, the verdict was in. Tony Emanuel was acquitted. He said at trial that he knew nothing of the murder plot, and the jury believed him. Jason Jones and Roger Leslie, however, were both convicted and sentenced to life, with each to serve a minimum term of 18 years and 20 years, respectively. Fadi Nasri was also sentenced to life to serve a minimum tariff of 20 years. So after two years, it was all finally over. But oddly, after the trial, while it was Fadi Nasri, her scumbag husband, who had plotted in cold blood to have her killed, it was Nisha who came under fire in the media. They were claiming that she had known all about Fadi's brothel and that she had knowingly financially gained from it.

And if you just Google this and look at the headlines that pop up, they're all like sleazy double life of a policewoman and policewoman in secret vice-madam scandal. But the thing is, the police thoroughly investigated Nisha's background during the investigation. They have to because they're looking for any potential leads or any potential suspects. But what they did find was that she was not involved in Fadi's escort business and that she did not profit off it. Because remember, Fadi never contributed any of his money to their marriage. It seems that Nisha did find out about Fadi never contributed any of his money to their marriage.

It seems that Nisha did find out about Fadi's seventh heaven after they were married, but she made him promise to close it down and go into something else. And this is when they had started their limo business. A business that, as we said, Nisha had paid all of the seed money for. But the police did find that two years before her murder, Nisha had inappropriately used her police ID to help Fadi collect a debt. But she was caught at the time and given a written warning. After that, she was never connected with any wrongdoings again. Obviously, what she did was wrong, but it's a far cry from being a secret vice-madam moonlighting in the police. But this finding was enough for

most tabloids to drag Nisha through the mud and ask repeatedly why she wasn't fired for running a brothel. Newspapers like the Daily Mail claimed that it was because of political correctness gone mad. Everyone's fucking favourite headline. I'm so sick of hearing that sentence. She was a woman of colour after after all. And the Met, an organisation always trying to polish its reputation on the race relations front, just kept her on to keep up their appearances. So basically, the male want you to believe that she got away with it because she's a woman and she's brown. Yeah, exactly.

They were like, if this had been somebody else, if this had been a white man, they would have fucking thrown her out on her arse. And I'm like, like really do you really think so why I don't know but yeah it just is so cynical but you know it's nothing new and maybe some people could be like well how could they prove that she didn't sort of profit financially or gain financially from Fadi's sort of brothel business because he was running it when they first met she found out she tried to move him into the limo business, but he carried on running it behind her back.

But the reason I don't think that Nisha was profiting off the sex business was because the debts show that Fadi wasn't making that money available to her or to their marriage. And given the huge astronomical amount of debt that they were in, and the fact that Nisha had even asked her own family to help them. I don't think she knew about his secret business. Why would she allow him to not give that money up to the marriage when they'd so desperately clearly needed it? I basically think that Nisha was a good woman. She fell for the wrong man and she loved him and he

left her in that house on her own that night knowing what was going to happen. He was willing to have Nisha murdered for his own greed and lust. Fadi Nasri is a lying, pathetic dosser, like Nisha described him. He just wanted easy money and he wanted an easy life. And he was willing to exploit not only his wife, but also other women to get what he wanted. But the good thing is that he is where he belongs now, in jail. So in the process of all of this, we wondered about how common murder for hire actually is.

When we did Kineka Powell ages ago, it probably was about a year ago, I wouldn't be surprised if it was to the day we did Kineka Powell because it was just after LA. So we had a little bit of a look at hitmen there, but we've had another look for you and given the old adage it's always the spouse it seemed like it would make sense all you have to do is hire a professional hit person get yourself an alibi and bingo it's the answer to all of your marital woes not condoning it don't hire a hitman no this is the thinking that we think people might go through when they when they decide to enter into this particular plot and maybe it would be if you are super well connected in the grimy underworld and according to an article in the atlantic called people who pay to kill people that the reason most murder

for hire hits don't end with dead bodies and instead they just end up with people in jail because the average person usually just tried to use acquaintances or inept inexperienced criminal bottom feeders to do the job which is very much what happened here have you seen it was a while ago bc before corona that um there was a chinese case where a man had hired a hitman to kill his wife and that hitman had hired another hitman and it went on 15 times just like outsourcing hit work and they all went to prison and there's like a picture of them all like standing in court next to each other hysterical they're just like I don't actually want to do it though so I'll just take 10% you can do it and then they just passed it on

oh my god that is so funny and yeah actually I haven't heard of that one but when i was doing the research into kind of hit men hit jobs whatever um i did find that case of a gentleman in america and i think his name is ramon souza i want to say that's his name but basically he discovered that his wife had put out a hit on him so before it happened he went to the police and he told them you know my wife's trying to kill me so the fbi basically plotted with him to catch her. So they staged his death. They put fake blood on him. They stuck him in a grave, all of this.

Took photos, went to his wife to tell her that her husband had been killed. And literally in the video footage from like the dash cam of the police officers, before they even told her what happened, she starts crying hysterically. So she all fucking knows about it. And they catch her. And her surprise surprise surprise feels like a mild word her unbelievable shock when it turns out her husband is actually alive and well and she's just been caught by the fbi is uh it's perfect really but i think that's the problem is people don't know what they're doing even when they hire a hit person because unless you're a massive criminal you just

don't have those kind of connections no a forensic psychologist involved with a study out of tennessee interviewed a number of hitmen and found that they all displayed moderate to severe psychopathy so what's the difference between a hitman and a serial killer because surely we'd expect the same trait out of the likes of bundy and Dharma, etc., all of the ones that we'll never do on the show. That's the most you're ever going to get them mentioned. Well, according to experts like Professor David Wilson, who most of you who watch any kind of true crime will probably be aware of, but he is a criminology professor at Birmingham City University.

And he said to hitmen, it's not personal. They aren't getting off on it. It's strictly business. They are able to depersonalize their victims and totally reframe the act of killing itself. This means that they don't need that calling off period between kills like we see with serial killers. So ultimately, those hitmen who can turn off their emotions altogether

are the most likely to be successful. But the issue of course is that most of these like master assassins are not likely to get caught. So we are stuck with research that generally focuses mainly on these lesser professionals. So it's just always going to remain kind of a mystery profession and a mystery pursuit really I think there was uh I can't remember if there was a radio lab or this American life or something years and years and years ago that there's a book that's like how to hire a hitman or like how to conduct the perfect hit or something like that and um they tried to stop it from getting published and then it turned into this massive censorship case and it's they weren't allowed to not publish it because it counted as

censorship and so it's out there, I think. I mean, people clearly need tips. They clearly need tips because the majority of professional hits, because I will link the Atlantic article. There's another one that is with Professor Wilson on kind of numerous studies that have been done into the world of hit jobs, if we will.

And the majority of them fail. They say around a fifth of them tend to be romantically involved 15 or so tend to be around financial reasons i'm surprised it was only 20 of people were doing it because of romantic things i thought it would be way more than that yeah i was too um and also one final thing to end on that i did think was quite interesting is that the studies into it have shown that it's usually a 50-50 split between male and female as in the the instigator the person that's buying the hitman so I thought that was quite interesting that is interesting yeah everybody is trying to kill you basically that's the motto good job we can't fucking go anywhere exactly so that is the case of nisha patel nazaree as ever come have a chat with

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