RedHanded - Episode 370 - Eddie Lee Sexton Part 1: Amputee Jesus

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Neglect has a smell – and it clung to the walls of 1849 Caroline Street, Stark County, Ohio. As a litany of horrors unfurled, the stench was dwarfed only by the darkness emanating from its owner – Eddie Lee Sexton.Over the next two episodes, we reveal a multi-generational secret; one that haunted Sexton’s 12 children for the rest of their days. The DHS, the Police and the Sheriff’s department all had their suspicions for years. But in 1991, a tip came in and the race was on to get those children out of that house.Exclusive bonus content:Wondery - Ad-free & ShortHandPatreon - Ad-free & Bonus EpisodesFollow us on social media:YouTubeTikTokInstagramXVisit our website:WebsiteSources available on redhandedpodcast.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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But it has happened. The time has come. Well, I'm here for it. Kind of. I wish I wasn't. Well, strap in, because you might be feeling the same by the end of this episode but it's a two-parter 1849 caroline street in canton ohio stood silent and whatever walked there walked alone that's the opening of hill house i I'm sorry I stole it, I couldn't resist. Once, the nine-room structure had been filled with children, but by 1994, those days were gone.

Only their worldly belongings remained. The Stark County Sheriff's Office put the house up for auction. The previous owner owed a lot of people a lot of money, and selling the house seemed like the only way to make a dent in his debts. Getting someone to take the house wouldn't be easy, though. It was dilapidated and full of shit. But that wasn't the reason no one wanted anything to do with it. If you walked up to the front door of 1849 Caroline, you would be met with a statue of Jesus, holding his arms out towards you. There's nothing unusual about that. Lots of Christ sculptures are in that position.

But this Jesus statue has no hands. Take it down if you want to sell your house. Come on. What was that TV show where that woman would just go around your house and be like, paint everything magnolia, bake some bread, and you'll sell your house?

Also take down the fucking creepy Jesus statue with no hands. The front door of the house had a metal cross on it, which read, Peace to all those who enter here. Don't believe it. The handless Jesus had once belonged to the homeowner's mother, but nobody knows when it lost its hands. Everyone in Canton knew that there was

absolutely no peace in that house. The deeds to this house were held by a man called Eddie Lee Sexton. He and his wife were on the FBI's most wanted list. Despite that and all the whispers that swirled around the Sexton house, the sheriff's office did actually manage to sell it. The couple who bought it knew the Sexton family, who had occupied the house on Caroline Street for 15 years. Eddie Lee Sexton was a polite man, fond of a good deal, and he would often take his sons with him when he was striking these deals. The Sexton children, all 12 of them, were very obedient. Sexton's nickname about town

was the bellhop because of how quickly his brood jumped up to carry out his commands. And we'll meet all of them over the course of this episode. Like we said, it's a two-parter, but it does get confusing, so maybe just write all their names down or something? As the house was cleared out, it became very clear to the buyers that Eddie Lee Sexton had a secret. Every internal door in the house had a broken lock.

All of the doors had been kicked in. All but one of the bedrooms had trapdoors in the walls, and if you opened them, you'd see little nests of blankets and children's toys, as if the twelve children who lived in that house had needed somewhere to hide. Can you include that on the square footage of your house floor plan? What human nest? Yes, I don't know. In the basement was a wheelchair, a hospital bed,

and a mattress covered in crude drawings of erect penises and vulvas, quite clearly sketched by children. Two chains hung from the rafters, and a bundle of greeting cards lay on the ground. They were all from the Sexton children addressed to their parents, filled with messages of how much they loved them. Everyone in Canton knew that the Sexton

children were odd, but as long as they had lived at 1849 Caroline Street, no one had managed to expose the patriarch's secret. But we have found it for you, and as that description of the house that Hannah just gave you might suggest it is horrifying so please strap in and after you listen to this

probably just be nice to yourself now before we go on there are a lot of people in this story and to make things even more confusing all of the children had nicknames and some of them also have the same name. So keeping up with it is probably going to be a bit of a nightmare. So to make things easier, we're going to pick one name for each person and stick with it for the rest of the episode. Yeah. So if you go around and read about this case, you might see people being described using different names. There are also stages in the story where pseudonyms are used and a lot of there is a book about this case which is called house of secrets i would recommend

using that as your source because of the state laws in ohio a lot of the stuff that's in the press is either the children's names are recanted or they're fake ones and it like it gets so confusing but we're gonna try our best here are the 12 we've got patrick eddie jr pixie willie sherry michelle charles james matthew christopher lana and kimberly the oldest one patrick was 24 when the house was sold and kimberly was seven the maximum age difference between any of the sexton kids was just over two years difference between any of the Sexton kids was just over two years. I think all of the first four are only a year apart.

First off, let's meet the eldest Sexton girl, Pixie. She's actually called Estella, but so is her mum, so we'll just stick to Pixie. At school, the Sexton children kept to themselves. Their father would only allow them to have one friend, and no one was ever, ever allowed back to the house on Caroline Street. High schooler Terry Turrify attempted to befriend Pixie Sexton in their junior year. She felt sorry for the lonely-looking girl, with odd-looking clothes and greasy hair.

But Terry didn't really get very far. Pixie wasn't allowed to go to the mall or even the cinema. Every time Terry invited her to something, the answer Pixie gave was always the same. My dad won't like it. Through the summer holidays, Pixie and Terry didn't see each other at all. When they returned to school for their senior year, there was something different about Pixie Sexton. The painfully shy girl who wasn't allowed to go anywhere or do anything was pregnant. Terry was totally bamboozled

and couldn't stop herself from asking Pixie who the daddy was. Pixie calmly told her that the father of her unborn child had run off and joined the Navy. She added that her parents were really happy for her, though, which directly contradicted everything that Terry knew about the super-strict sextons. Pixie was adamant. As long as she was happy, so were her parents.

Pixie was far from the only outsider at that school. Joel Good was another. A quiet boy with a low IQ. He just kept his head down and got on with it. His parents had died a few years before, and since then Joel had lived with his auntie Teresa and washed dishes at the weekend for spending money. Parents liked him.

He was polite. And with his low grade point average, there was no way he was going to college. All Joel Good really wanted was to have a family. With prom fast approaching, Terry put her matchmaking hat on and suggested to Joel that he ask Pixie Sexton to be his date. An introduction that Terry Turify would regret

for as long as she lived. Aunty Teresa took Joel to the Sexton house on Caroline Street on the night of the big dance. In the great American tradition, her nervous nephew had bought a corsage for the pregnant Pixie. Pixie actually scrubbed up all right, but she didn't pin the red rose from Joel to her powder blue dress. She already had a corsage tied to her wrist that her father had given her. Joel struggled at the prom. It was not the high school

photo finish that he wanted. Pixie barely spoke to him and refused to hold his hand. Her dad and one of her brothers picked her up as darkness fell, and Joel didn't see Pixie again for weeks. Eventually, though, he resolved to try again again and after Pixie had her baby girl Joel took himself back to the Sexton house to give it another shot. Baby Dawn looked just like her mother and Joel was great with Dawn and Eddie

Lee Sexton was very encouraging of Pixie's budding relationship. This is an interesting thing to note. Mm-hmm. The only time Eddie Lee Sexton is encouraging of spending time with outsiders is there comes a point in all of his teenage daughter's lives where he's like, okay, now you can have a boyfriend. Mm-hmm. So Joel, with the permission and approval of Pixie's father, started to go and hang out with her and baby Dawn

a few nights a week for the rest of the summer. Soon enough, even though he could never get a straight answer out of Pixie regarding who Dawn's father actually was, Joel Good fell head over heels in love with Pixie Sexton. You don't believe in ghosts? I get it. Lots of people don't. I didn't either, until I came face to face with them.

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we'll be finding Andy you can listen to Finding Andy and Finding Natasha exclusively and ad-free on Wondery Plus join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. When September rolled around, Joel announced to his auntie Teresa that the Sextons were all moving to Montana to live on a big ranch. And he was going with them.

That didn't happen. Teresa was overwhelmed with relief. She'd always had a bad feeling about Pixie. She was worried that her sweet nephew was being manipulated, but she just couldn't figure out to what end. Soon after the Montana announcement, out of the blue, Pixie dumped Joel. As usual, she did not give him a real reason. But there was one. In November 1990, Pixie and Dawn were back in Joel's life. And so was another bundle of joy. Pixie had had another baby girl called Shasta. The Sextons

had never gone to Montana and Pixie wheeled out the Navy boyfriend baby explanation again, saying that they had a one nightnight stand, and then he left. Again. Joel's family saw a marked change in Joel the longer he spent around that Sexton girl. He was scraggly, his hair was too long, and if you asked him a question, he would look at Pixie as if asking permission to answer. Before long, Joel was also living at the Caroline Street house with all of the other sextons it's because most of the boys are older right and the boys are allowed to leave when they're 18 most of them are married apart from willie but i'll come on to that later so kind of at no point in our story are all of them living there but there's so many people in that fucking house. In January 1992, Joel called his

Aunt Teresa to tell her that Pixie was pregnant for a third time and he was going to marry her on the upcoming Valentine's Day. Teresa and other members of the Good Family sat around waiting for invitations or literally any scrap of information on Joel's impending nuptials. But they never came. Joel rang them again on the 12th of February, which is two days before Valentine's Day if you need that clearing up for you, and he said that the wedding had already happened. That day, in fact. Eddie Lee Sexton had officiated the ceremony in his own living room,

and Joel had some other, less celebratory news as well. Pixie had miscarried. Teresa asked Joel if Pixie had been to see a doctor. Joel said that she hadn't. And Teresa was pretty sure that there never was a pregnancy. Which made her wonder why Pixie Sexton would have married Joel in such a hurry if there was no baby at all. Pixie may have had her reasons,

but it was her father, Eddie Lee Sexton, who was really pulling all the matrimonial strings because he needed a get-out-of-jail-free card. Because the condition of the marriage was that Joel Goode legally was to be registered as the father of both baby Dawn and baby Shasta. Earlier, on the day that would become the wedding day, the Sextons had a visit from a police officer, a social worker, and one of the Sexton girls, Michelle.

Michelle was being escorted to the property to collect some of her clothes before being checked into a women's shelter. And as the trio walked into the house, Eddie Lee Sexton was sat in a wheelchair in his kitchen. He said that there had been an enormous misunderstanding. He asked Michelle, his 18-year-old daughter, in a very calm, velvety voice, Did I hit you? Michelle didn't answer him. But she didn't need to.

Social worker Wayne Welsh had been on the job a long time. He had many reports filed on the Sextons, the first one dating back to 1979, but there was never enough to take things further. Over his career, Welsh

had learned that neglect has a smell and 1849 caroline street was covered in it earlier that day michelle had sat in her school counselor's office convinced that she was pregnant the counselor called social worker wayne welsh in to interview her and wayne welsh was not surprised he had already been to the school to speak to various Sexton kids before. In 1989, Sherry Sexton told the counsellor that she had been beaten with a belt and that she had large red welts on the back of her legs to prove it. Then Willie Sexton had been accused of starting fires and then there were a long list of referrals to the Department of Health, hospital visits,

hygiene concerns and sexual behaviour towards other children. But crucially, for any action to be taken, the DHS needed the children to disclose what was going on. If the kids didn't talk, Wayne Welsh couldn't help. And like we said, he's been here before, so we expected the same thing to happen that day in 1991 with Michelle. But he was wrong. Michelle Sexton had had enough, and she was ready to talk. Michelle had been pushed over the edge by what had happened to her in the Caroline Street house. Wayne Welsh listened as the 18-year-old whispered a litany of horrors.

Not only were the Sexton kids not allowed to do anything, Eddie Lee Sexton would give each of them a quarter before they left for school in the morning. If they saw any of their siblings breaking any of the rules, they had to go to a phone box and use that quarter to call him and knock. The only way was Dad's way. And then came the bombshell. Michelle was pregnant. And the only person she had ever had any kind of sexual contact with was her own father.

Yep, it's one of those cases. The previous December, Eddie Lee Sexton took Michelle out with him for a drive. He said he wanted to talk about her future. And Michelle dared to hope that her father was going to let her go to college. Sexton had absolutely no intention of talking about Michelle getting a degree. He parked his van in a pitch black car park and slapped his daughter across the face. Then he dragged her into the back of the van and raped her.

His handprints were bruised into her arms. And when he was finished, he told Michelle, say anything to anybody and I'll kill you. It would be very easy. Girls go missing every day. And then Michelle's father took her to a gas station toilet

and told her to clean herself up. Michelle missed her next period. She told social worker Wayne Welsh that Sexton somehow knew this and would do impressions of a pregnant woman waddling around the house. A few weeks later, Eddie Sexton kicked Michelle in the stomach. Sherry, one of her sisters, had been pregnant the year before too, and that baby was kicked out of her by her brother James. Michelle told Welsh, I'm pregnant and they're trying to kill my baby.

Michelle thought that the father had raped her to punish Michelle for seeing something she shouldn't have. She had looked through the garage window one day and saw her father and her older brother, Eddie Jr., next to a bloody body in a car boot. Eddie Lee Sexton made a point of telling his children that he knew a lot of dangerous people who could make them disappear in an instant, even had a favourite one, known only as the Iceman. If Michelle was telling the truth, that would mean that four conceptions had happened within

the Sexton siblings in as many years, and only Pixie Sexton's children, Dawn and Shasta, were allowed to be born. Why do you think he kills the other pregnancies before they can go to term? You'll find out. Oh, good. Right. Never mind. When Michelle was asked why she was only coming forward for help now, she said that she'd seen her father kiss her two younger sisters, who are seven and nine, by the way,

on the lips before they left for school, and she couldn't let them go through the same thing that she and Sherry had. What are your thoughts on parents kissing their children on the lips? I think it's gross. I agree. It makes me feel really uncomfortable. I agree. I agree. If you're also raping them behind closed doors, think it's gross i agree i really it makes me feel really uncomfortable i agree i agree um

if you're also raping them behind closed doors even worse but even if you're not there's something weird about it i don't like it don't like it there's so many other parts of the face you can kiss don't kiss my lips no no i i can't subscribe. No. There was another reason why it took quite a while for Michelle to pluck up the courage to come forward. She was convinced that if she told anyone what her father was doing, he would go to prison. And that the family wouldn't be able to go on without him, which is obviously a belief that he has instilled in her through years upon years upon years of abuse. As Wayne Welsh took in Michelle's story, he couldn't stop thinking about cults.

And not to get all year nine essay about it, but the definition of a cult is a group requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs or practices that are considered by most people to be deviant. And cults also have an undisputed leader that no one disobeys because the consequences are too terrifying. And cult leaders always have a deep, dark secret that they are hiding. 1849, Caroline Street. Wasn't a house.

It was a compound. When Michelle was finished with her story, Wayne Welsh told her that she was not going home. He was going to put her into a woman's shelter. He also recommended that they take a trip to the police station to make a proper statement. The police, just like Welsh, wouldn't be surprised. They also had a list of sex and scandals as long as your arm, including fires, thefts, violence, fraud, vandalism, burglary. But just like the DHS, the police never had enough to actually pin anything on the Sextons. Now when mention of police came up, Michelle refused to go. She said she was too scared. So Wayne Welsh, accompanied by a police officer, took Michelle

to get her clothes from Caroline Street. And after they left, Eddie Lee Sexton decided to bring the marriage of Pixie and Joel up by a couple of days. Wayne Welsh had shaken him. Like all cult leaders, Eddie Lee Sexton had a secret and Michelle was now out of his control. Michelle ended up in a Christian shepherding program

that found foster homes for pregnant teens with nowhere to go. It was run by a woman called Anne Green, a jolly lady, firmly in the the higher the hair, the closer to God camp. I love Anne Green. I love her so much. But Michelle was not an easy charge for Anne. Once she was housed, she broke curfews and was tricky to deal with.

She would also have night terrors, and her foster families would find her sleeping under her bed or in a cupboard. Then it turned out that Michelle wasn't pregnant at all. Anne Green asked her why she thought she was, and after a long silence, Michelle Sexton whispered, My dad raped me. Anne appalled obviously remained calm and told Michelle that she had to report it to the police but again Michelle just couldn't. Her dad had people everywhere and he would tell his children repeatedly a good snitch

is a dead snitch. That's what he does. He does the same things over and over and over again. He has these catchphrases that he uses like on a loop and his kids like parrot them. Absolutely. I mean, we've seen dime and dime again with cult leaders, how they're able to completely take over the brain's thinking processes, even destroy people's personalities so many times on this show

and even if you look at cases like Colleen Stan where she's abducted by that man and then he manipulates her into believing that she ever runs away or ever leaves or ever tells anybody about what's going on with her that this mysterious organization that's out there that he is a part of will kill her or do something far worse to her than he's doing and that kind of manipulation is able to happen within months within a few years like with Colleen Stan to the point that she's going out for runs and not asking for help these are his own children is there a more powerful dynamic that you could have that would make this kind of brainwashing easier. Absolutely not.

We see it happen with people who are complete strangers. And he pulls it off, if you include Estella, his wife, which I'll talk about next week. I don't know how much I believe that. But he pulls it off at least 14 times. At the very least. As tragic as Michelle's tale was, the negative pregnancy test meant that Michelle Sexton was actually no longer eligible for Anne Green's programme. But Anne wasn't going to let Michelle down like everybody else had. Anne went to the police herself and she moved Michelle into

a safe house. Eventually, Michelle agreed to speak to a police officer, and the man on the job was Sergeant Glyn Goh. A pause. We have Wayne Welsh and Glyn Goh. I know, there's a lot of, like, very fake-sounding names in this story. It sounds like Inspector Gadget's, like, actual name. Yes, yeah. Now, like everyone else we've met so far, Glyn Goh was well aware of the weird family that lived in the weird house with the amputee Jesus statue. A terrified Michelle sat in his office and started to talk.

She began with the family tree, adding in all the nicknames that her father had given all of her siblings. It happens a lot in sexton interviews where they'll start and then the social worker or the policeman or the solicitor sometimes has to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Before you start, you need to lay out who everyone is because it is so confusing. Absolutely. So some of these nicknames that Eddie Lee Sexton had given his children were nice, like bunny or bird or skipper. When she was younger, her father had called Michelle Candy. But when she strayed from the path, he had a new one for her. Diarrhea Mouth.

Dawn and Shasta, though they were just babies, had nicknames too. Michelle said, and almost as a throwaway she added, Pixie's children are dad's children. Everyone knows. We just know. Then Michelle moved on to the discipline inside the house. Up until the age of 16, children would be beaten with sticks. They would have to go out into the front garden

and choose the stick that would be used. They would then be taken into the master bedroom, where Eddie Lee Sexton would beat their naked bodies, and their mother Estella would watch. Once they were over 16, they no longer got the stick, they got the fist. And their mother Estella wouldn't always just watch. Once she beat one of the Sexton boys herself 49 times. And it wasn't all just physical beatings. There were psychological punishments too. Once Michelle was locked in a cupboard by her father

and he sprayed boot spray under the door until she passed out. I'd still say that's pretty physical. But yeah, there's a lot going on. I think being made to live in a house that's full of shit is pretty up there on the psychological abuse side of things also. I mean, it kind of goes through phases. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Yeah.

On Friday nights, the female siblings were ordered to dance for hours on end and their father would give them instructions on how to move. And, as I implied earlier, when his daughters got pregnant, Sexton would allow them to find a boyfriend and he would spend a lot them to find a boyfriend, and he would spend a lot of time with said boyfriend, grooming them into the family. Joel Good was not the first.

Michelle was more together in this second interview than she had been at the school, and she was more open to questioning. Glingo asked her how she knew that her father was raping her sisters. She said that she'd seen it. One night she pretended to sleepwalk and saw her father and Pixie together. It's so hard to use the right words because a lot of it is, I mean, it is incest ever conceptual but after

Pixie's 18 she is an adult and a lot of the interviews are like have sex with, had sex with, blah blah blah. It's difficult to know but she says I saw them having sex. I saw Pixie and my dad who was also her dad having sex. I saw it. One night Eddie Lee

Sexton took Sherry out for a drive. And when they returned, her father's flies were open and his shirt was hanging out. After this interview, Michelle bounced from safe house to shelter to friends' houses. And eventually ended up in a psych ward after a suicide attempt. From the ward, she called her father's brother, Otis. He was a preacher and also lived in Canton, Ohio, but he hadn't spoken to his brother Eddie for over a year. Despite this, Otis went and got Michelle,

and when she told him what had happened, he said, Honey, I'm going to be honest with you. I've been suspecting it for years. Very casual. But this is the thing that we'll find out like whatever happened to eddie lee sexton to make him the way he is his brothers have also not had perfect upbringings so expecting them to act like normal people is probably a bit of a fool's errand so after he he came and got her, at Michelle's request, Otis, who all of the Sexton kids

called Uncle Oti, phoned Wayne Welsh. Welsh came to Otis' home to interview Michelle again, and this time she had even more to give. The dark night in the van was not the first time her father had sexually abused her. When she was 12, he had tried to rape her. But in her words, she was too small. Wayne Welsh knew that he had to get those kids out of that house. But the only evidence he had was Michelle's story and a gut feeling.

But he listened to it anyway. That very same day, Lana and Kimberley Sexton were taken from school by the DHS, and so was Charles. Christopher and James were removed from the Sexton house itself. They hadn't gone to school that day. As they were taken away, Eddie Lee Sexton and his wife, Estella, stood on the deck outside. Sexton said the same thing that he had said when Michelle came to collect her clothes. This is all a big misunderstanding. Estella was less collected. She shouted in front of all of their neighbours, he doesn't molest anybody. Good one Estella. Yeah, no one asked you. With all of the minor Sextons in state custody,

the DHS had 30 days to get a case in front of a judge or those kids would have to be returned to that house. The race was on. The next day, the 17th of April 1991, Sexton applied for a court order forbidding his brother Otis, Uncle Oti, from having any contact with his underage children. Sexton's narrative was that this was all Otis' doing

and he didn't want his twisted brother influencing his children. Sexton argued that Otis was the one who had been feeding Michelle lies and he would stick to this argument for years to come. Otis said that the court ruling was fine. He didn't want any contact with the Little Sextons. Yeah, he's like, okay. Fine. We're still going to carry on.

Yeah. And there's nothing that Eddie Lee can do about Michelle because she's 18. Yeah. Now, this brotherly feud wasn't something that just kick-started after Michelle came forward. It was ages old. And we wish we could tell you why it all started.

But we just don't know. There is something that happened to those kids. Eddie Lee and Otis, and there's loads of them. Something happened. I just don't know what it is. But what we do know is that Otis and Eddie Lee Sexton were raised in a coal town in Virginia. They had eight other siblings. They were dirt poor, but so was everyone else, so they didn't really notice. Having said

that, Eddie Lee was his mother's clear favourite. Whilst the other boys had to share Christmas presents, little Eddie Lee always got his own. While the other children were doing chores, Eddie Lee was given cuddles. When he got a bit too big for cuddles, Eddie Lee Sexton robbed a local petrol station. He was caught and served five years in prison. During that custodial sentence, Eddie Lee Sexton met the Iceman. Otis Sexton had always maintained that something happened to his brother in that prison that changed him forever and turned him into an abusive sexual deviant. But I don't buy that. I don't buy that. I don't think it happens that abruptly with just one single incident. I think we obviously see a build-up here i think the mother

having such a clear favorite is not going to help this kid any it's definitely going to alienate him from his other seven siblings that's going to kickstart all sorts of psychological issues especially this idea of like obviously all parents tell their kids that they're special to them but it's this feeling of you are not only special to me you are special above and beyond all of your siblings and thereby above and beyond all other people in the world danger danger danger danger there are other things as well from eddie lee sexton's childhood there's a story from one of his neighbors so a widow lived on her own had a lot of cats and one day all of her cats disappeared there was like 10 cats

Eddie Lee Sexton as a child had stolen them all cut all of their heads off, hung them from a washing line yeah that'll do it yeah there was signs, stuff was bubbling yeah I have absolutely no doubt that something happened to eddie lee

sexton i'm pretty sure it happened to otis as well it definitely happened to dave who's another brother we'll get to him it started long before he saw the inside of a prison cell i think but i just don't know what it is there has to be something in that upbringing somewhere. Even prison didn't dull Eddie Lee Sexton's shine in his mum's eyes. The second he got out, she bought him a brand new car. Their father had been a preacher and a coal miner. He died when Otis and Eddie Lee were pretty young. They both claimed black lung pensions for decades afterwards. Following in his father's footsteps, Otis opened his first church called Burning Bush Revivals. And fresh out of the pen in 1971, Eddie tried to give the bishop thing a go too. He started a storefront church entitled the Calvary Church of God.

Otis went down there to support his brother, but he walked out halfway through. Classic cult, cult leader behaviour. Absolutely. Always the path to cultdom is failed preacher to cult leader. So Otis turned his back upon his brother, and in time so did everyone else. Eddie Lee Sexton's brief foray into the word of the Lord was over in six months.

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him because she suspected him of sodomising Lana. Okay, that's his sister, just in case anyone's confused. Now it's worth mentioning here that Lana, the second youngest, was firmly Eddie Lee Sexton's favourite. Lana was special. Not just to him, but to the world. Sexton would tell anyone that was in his house for more than two seconds that Lana had a very unique line on her hat. That wasn't usual palmistry.

Sexton claimed that Lana's palm map meant that Lana was a future Tron. She was so powerful that he had to protect her with his life. Because if they found her, they would kill her. Only one person on the face of the planet had the same hand hieroglyphics as little Lana. And that person was, in news that will surprise absolutely nobody,

Eddie Lee Sexton himself. He said that the markings meant that he was a warlock, capable of wielding unimaginable power, and was answerable to no man, nor God. Now you're not likely to forget Futur-Trons, but hold on to them because you can bet your ass that they'll come back up later again it's the classic like narcissist here that you see with eddie lee he's like i picked a favorite child much like his mother did to him and the reason she's special is because there is something that she shares uniquely with me that none of the others do.

Yes, exactly. And this is, there are, you know, he keeps secrets. This is not one of them. Auntie Teresa goes over when Joel starts seeing Pixie and he's just like out the gate. Like, I'm a Futurotron and this is Lana and look at her hand. Like, he will tell anybody the Futurotron stuff. And I think it also makes it very clear, right, that Eddie Lee Sexton, the things he's saying about Future Tron sounds nuts,

but that he is mentally together enough that he understands that that might sound a bit weird and quirky, but you're not going to go to jail for it, but he knows that raping your kids is going to send you to jail pretty quick. Yeah, it's the bait and switch. Yeah. He knows what to say out loud and what not to for now let's move on to the next sexton sibling who was in state custody pre-teen james was

determined to be autistic and he admitted to being made to stand naked beside his brothers holding encyclopedias with straight arms for hours on end. James was made to sniff the armpits and feet of his sisters. And when he was asked by authorities about sexual abuse, James said, there's a lot of sex in the family. It's a tricky one, right? Because Eddie Lee Sexton and Estella, they are carrying out all this kind of abuse on their children. And to some extent, to keep them quiet, it's not just fear, but it's a normalization of that, right?

So that they never spend time with anybody else so that they can never figure out that this isn't happening to other children behind closed doors. That's why nobody's allowed over, etc., etc. So then that works when everybody is a captive in the house. But the minute those children are taken out of the house, they're going to start spilling the beans pretty quickly because they don't know that it's not normal. Yes and no. I think we've talked before in especially cult episodes,

children do seem to have this innate sense of right and wrong. But yes, the other problem that we'll come on to is that children who have suffered like, you know, DID producing levels of abuse will only talk if they feel like the system can protect them. And how can any system protect you when your father is drummed into your head that he is more powerful than God? And also because the structure of social services, Department of Health Services, blah, blah, blah, their major aim almost all of the time is to keep families together. So getting children out is really hard. The threshold is really high. So sometimes the system fails.

I believe in this country, it is, of course course incredibly high and also we're talking about a case that you know that happened a couple of decades ago but these days my belief is the minute there is any accusation of sexual abuse the children are gone they're taken away immediately but for how long but for how long it's very it's very difficult it's very difficult i am fucking glad to not be a social worker. James also said that the kids toed the line because they were terrified, yes, but also they were waiting for a payoff. The Sexton children were constantly promised trips to Disneyland if they behaved and then they were promised the life on the Montana ranch. And if the promises didn't work,

then the Sexton kids were regaled with horror stories of the Iceman and what he was capable of. Several of the Sexton children whilst in care claimed that their father had tied them up and held a gun to their head. And a few of them also told one haunting story that you will find no doubt very difficult to get out of your head. But if it has to be in mine, it has to be in yours too, sorry. So one day, for no particular reason, all of the male children were lined up in the bathroom whilst their father measured their penises. Michelle was able to reel off the measurements to Wayne Welsh

like they were times tables. Her sibling James also stated that he had seen his sister Pixie beat her own children with a belt. History, it seemed, was repeating itself. And that is where the disclosure stopped. The two youngest girls, Kimberly and Lana, did not breathe a word. For now. So this is important. This is, you know, obviously harrowing, but good news for Wayne Welsh because the kids are starting to corroborate each other's stories.

And so, as far as Wayne Welsh and the DHS were concerned, they now had multiple statements to support Michelle's. Abuse and emotional maltreatment of the Sexton children at the hands of their parents had been sustained. But there was still a problem. Michelle Sexton, the one who had been brave enough to tip the first domino, was not the most reliable of witnesses. Even Wayne Welsh wasn't totally convinced that she was telling 100% of the truth. But one of Michelle's narratives was easily verifiable.

Eddie Lee Sexton claimed disability. And a lot of it. According to Eddie Lee Sexton claimed disability. And a lot of it. According to Eddie Lee Sexton himself, he had MS, MD, cancer between his shoulder blades. He was basically blind and he had debilitating back problems. This is a man who runs a painting company, by the way. He claimed a working man's benefit on top of the black lung pension that he cashed in his dead father's name. Anything you can think of, he's claiming it. cashed in his dead father's name anything you can think of he's claiming it and he's claiming other people's as well fake names blah blah blah he would

also um i haven't included this because that it's already so long but um another thing he would do is himself or usually willie he would send one of his sons to befriend someone who perhaps had some sort of mental disability or a physical one, and then they would pressure them into signing over their checks to them. They did that multiple times. All of Eddie Lee Sexton's ailments that he claimed were a farce. There was nothing physically wrong with him. And Michelle told Wayne Welsh,

My dad can move faster than I can. But note, when the police and the DHS come over to his house, he is what? In a wheelchair. Michelle also revealed that while she was in hospital after the first of what would become many suicide attempts, that her brother Eddie Jr. had phoned her and told her to shut her mouth. This is a quote. I have no respect for you and I will finish you off.

Michelle, though, having dealt with the psychological terrorism of her father her whole life, held her nerve. On the 5th of May, Michelle took a polygraph test. And yes, we talk a lot of shit about polygraphs, but in this situation, I'm going to give it a pass. Because what it did was give Wayne Welsh, Glyn Goh, the DHS and the Canton Police Department exactly what they needed. Michelle was squeaky clean. The results of her test concluded no indications of deception, indicating substantial truth. Michelle wasn't looking like such an unreliable witness anymore and maybe, just maybe, even though polygraphs are bullshit, it would be enough to keep those kids away from Eddie Lee Sexton

and out of that compound. Sorry, house. Meanwhile, we need to catch up with Joel Good. After a period of silence, he, Pixie and the girls showed up at Teresa's church one Sunday. Pixie was visibly pregnant again and Joel told his auntie Teresa that they were living off benefits and trying to find an apartment, but they weren't planning on

staying local. Joel said that they needed to get out of Stark County because the police were after Eddie Lee Sexton. Joel was convinced that everything Michelle was telling the authorities was total bollocks. She just wanted an excuse to get out of the house and it was tearing the Sexton clan apart. At no point did it dawn on Joel that spinning a fabricated web of incest accusations was quite an extreme thing to do. Yeah, he doesn't seem,

and I really don't want to be unkind about Joel, he's very, very easily led and Teresa is acutely aware of that and it doesn't dawn on him that Michelle is an adult if something wasn't horribly wrong why would she even feel the need to make up a lie when she could just walk out and I think know, we said at the start, Joel was a bit of an outsider. He had quite a low IQ. And I think going and spending time at the Sexton family home, because remember, Eddie Lee is like fine with him dating his daughter, Pixie. Eddie Lee saw him coming a mile away. He knows this is the ideal patsy to bring into the family because he will believe everything I say. And

Eddie Lee will no doubt have been incredibly nice to Joel, will have made him feel part of something. And that is, we know, what Joel, who desperately wanted a family, wanted all along. Yeah, that's why Eddie Lee Sexton was really encouraging of the relationship because he was like, he's perfect. Yeah. Now Pixie had been told that if she didn't take her children

out of the house at Caroline Street, that they too would be taken by the DHS. Dawn was four now, and she still wasn't talking. And she couldn't recognise colours, or even count. And Shasta, her sister, well, she was the same as always. Silent and staring. Years later, Joel's aunt, Teresa, would learn that the DHS had noticed this behaviour in all of the Sexton children that they had encountered.

And they even had a name for it. The Sexton Stare. Sherry Sexton had a baby by this point as well. Everyone called him Little Bear and they had already left. Sherry and her baby had gone to live with Eddie Lee Sexton's other brother, Dave, in a trailer in Florida. As for the kids that were still being housed in various foster homes in Canton, Eddie Lee Sexton and Estella Sexton were allowed supervised visitation with them

at a state-funded facility ironically named Harmony House. Yeah and look it's so so complicated this is why social care is so so complicated because it's like the accusations are made you now must investigate the accusations and figure out what is true. The aim isn't to split and tear families apart if the accusations are coming from somebody who's perhaps not well or acting out for attention or various other reasons so you obviously want the parents to maintain a relationship with the children while you're discovering whether it's true or not but when it's true you're also putting these children directly in the line of fire with people who have been abusing them. It's so fucked up.

There were loads of unauthorised visitations as well. Eddie Lee Sexton would turn up at his kids' schools. He'd tell the boys that he would buy them cars if they recanted their testimonies. In another flailing attempt to derail court proceedings, Eddie Lee Sexton filed a motion to have the whole thing moved to a tribal court rather than a family one. Eddie Lee Sexton filed a motion to have the whole thing moved to a tribal court rather than a family one. Eddie Lee Sexton was obsessed with Native American culture. He taught his kids a made-up alphabet and he told them that it belonged to their tribe. Estella Sexton did have Cherokee heritage, that is a fact. Eddie Lee Sexton certainly did not. Actually, in the early years of their relationship, Sexton called his wife a dirty little Indian. The tribal court motion was denied in July.

It had been an endeavour to slow everything down. It didn't work. But the DHS's time to build the case to keep the kids out of the house was running out. And he well fucking knows that like something that people say about him is he's polite he's clever he can be very complimentary to you and he knows the law so he knows that the dhs have 30 days so the dhs needed as many statements from the sexton kids as they could get to bolster Michelle's original story.

Yeah, because they want a slam dunk, right? They want it to be absolutely no question these kids are getting fostered out. Yeah, because acquiring long-term custody of children is really, really difficult. The DHS needed to prove a pervasive pattern of abuse. And so far, the only one who had made a sexual abuse accusation was Michelle. And getting traumatised children to talk is also incredibly tricky. Hardened social workers will tell you that. To get a child to disclose, they have to truly believe that the system is capable of protecting them. The reality is, sometimes it just can't. Charles Sexton was being held in a juvenile detention centre, and his father would come there to see him all the time.

During one of these supervised visits, the pair hatched an escape plan and they actually pulled it off. Charles ran to the woods behind the detention centre where Eddie Lee was waiting for him. One down, eleven to go. While all of this was happening, Michelle lived with Uncle Oti for a while, and then she went back to bouncing from sofa to floor to shelter, and she ended up in a psych ward again.

There she called Anne Green. And Michelle told Anne that Otis wouldn't let her leave the house or use the phone and that he stole money from her. Yeah, you know, maybe that is true. i don't doubt the elements of that are true i can see how he's just going to say i need to know where you are because you're in danger and that could be interpreted as suffocating and also he's her dad's brother they've got to be similar in in some sort of ways i'm not saying that he was anywhere close to abusing her but I think she probably equates attempting to keep her safe with you are suffocating me absolutely and again we we can't be 100 sure about this but

Otis taking her money away even could just be a way to keep Michelle under lock and key until this case gets resolved because it does seem that Otis wants his brother to go down Otis absolutely wants Eddie Lee Sexton to go down and he does play a very big role in how this unfurls but I think he's hiding something oh I don't doubt that at all I also don't doubt that Michelle lies no and even if she's not lying right her being able to freely come and go have the money that she has I'm not saying that these are ideal scenarios to be taking somebody's freedom away and taking their money away etc but we do know that in cases like this once somebody has made an accusation you're waiting for it to go to trial while the investigation is going on

there is a really high incidence rate of people taking their own lives, people going off the rails. And if she does any of those things, her being the cornerstone witness means the case falls apart. Whilst Michelle was staying at Otis's house, once in the middle of the night, a window spontaneously smashed. Michelle was sure that it was a message from her mother. And that message was, we can find you. While she was in hospital, Michelle was convinced that one of her father's menacing associates was sitting in the waiting room.

Could it be the Iceman? Was he there to kill her? We don't know. But it was enough evidence for Michelle that her father had a hit out on her. Eventually, Anne Green took Michelle into her own home, and things looked up for a while. Michelle even managed to graduate high school. There was no doubt, though, that Michelle was still seriously unwell.

She didn't know the most basic aspects of hygiene. Anne clearly cared a lot about Michelle Sexton, but she just couldn't put her own children at risk. So sadly, Michelle had to go. And she went back to Otis and his trailer in Canton. And things remained difficult. She didn't understand why she was expected to be home at a certain time or why she had to do the washing up. One night when Otis's wife asked her to clean up after dinner, Michelle stormed off, calling her aunt a bitch on the way. That One night when Otis's wife asked her to clean up after dinner, Michelle stormed off, calling her aunt a bitch on the way. That was it for Otis, and he slapped Michelle across the face. Michelle ran out of the house, found the nearest payphone, and called her mother.

Estella told Michelle for the first time ever that she loved her and asked her to please come home. No, that's the most powerful thing Estella could possibly have said. And she knows it. She fucking knows. I don't, there's a lot of, you know, yes, I'm sure Estella was, I know Estella was abused also,

but she isn't a puppet. No, I hate this whole narrative of like, oh, well, if this woman's doing it, she's got to be a puppet. Like, it removes all agency from Estella. I'm sorry, they're all her children, right? They're all her children. And she is able to shut off completely that entire part of her brain that is telling her to protect those children. Estella told Michelle on the phone that Michelle was completely safe.

She would even be safe in the Caroline house because Eddie Lee Sexton wasn't there. Estella told Michelle that she was going to divorce him. And so, Michelle decided to go back to 1849 Caroline. And unbelievably, it was a social worker who gave her a lift. Again, if you read House of Secrets, that is explained in more detail.

That social worker kind of gives the argument of like, there's only so much you can do. But, I don't like it. No, I don't like it at all, but it's very, very difficult. And to empathise once more with social workers, they have an incredibly unbelievable workload.

And if you don't see an end to this situation, you're like, at least I can take her to her house and be like, she's there now. We know where she is. During the drive across town, Michelle collapsed in the back seat of the social worker's car and she started to convulse. And she was still going when they arrived

at the Sexton house. Patrick Sexton looked through the car window and firmly declared that Michelle was faking it. Estella ignored the whole situation and wouldn't stop talking about the weather. An ambulance was called, probably by the social worker, and when Michelle came

to, she told the paramedics that her uncle Otis had hit her and he'd held her against a wall so hard that she'd thrown up. It wasn't an epileptic seizure. Michelle Sexton had had a severe anxiety attack, brought on by the return to where she had grown up under her father's reign of terror. Still though, Michelle remained at Caroline Street for a month after this incident. Asella had of course lied to her. Even though Eddie Lee Sexton was under order of the court not to be, he was at that house on Caroline Street every single night. And while he was in there, the patriarch did what he always did he knew the whole case hung on Michelle's disclosure

and he was going to break her he used all his old favourite catchphrases girls disappear every day we put you on this world we can take you off it and chillingly there's a lot of lake out there Eddie Lee Sexton was living in a Winnebago, just ten minutes from Caroline Street, and every night he would creep back into the house to work on Michelle.

And she didn't have the strength to resist. No one would. Entrapped by her mother's lies, declarations of love and inhibited by a mind that her father had broken through years of shattering abuse. Eventually, Michelle did what she was told. Eddie Lee Sexton gave Michelle an attorney office statement. And Michelle copied it out in her own handwriting.

It read that she had made the whole thing up. It's a testimony recantation can you say that that sounds wrong yeah recant your testimony yeah yeah so she recants it she writes it down and then she files it in the attorney's office and there's nothing they can do because she's an adult after she filed that bit of paper the case against eddie lee sexton and the dhs's mission to keep those kids out of that house was in tatters charles sexton was back in caroline street after his jail break and because the 30-day time limit had been reached kimberly who was eight years old the youngest, and her older brother Christopher were back in there too.

Lana, though, the favourite, stayed out. And that's because she told a social worker that her brother Charles had raped her in the bathroom just two months before all of the minor Sextons were removed from Caroline Street. When Lana was asked by an agent about her father, her eyes went blank. There it was, the familiar Sexton stare. All Lana said was that she was worried about her brother Charles being in the same house as little Kimberley. And then Lana said something that we haven't heard from any of the Sexton kids yet. That Lucifer was working in that house.

Lana didn't have specifics for the DHS, just stories about her father wearing long robes and inverted crosses. But those stories were enough to keep Lana in the foster system and away from 1849 Caroline. And James was kept out too, just like Lana he claimed that his brother Charles had raped him.

And then there was the Statue of Liberty game. James told the DHS that Charles stood still in the bathroom while Lana and Kimberly, who are nine and seven at the time, belated him at his request. And they called this the Statue of Liberty game? Yeah. Okay. And it is corroborated by other Sextons later on.

And with the statements of Lana and James Sexton ringing in the DHS's ears, a warrant was issued for the arrest of Charles Sexton. The threat of Charles being taken away for a second time caused Eddie Lee Sexton to change up his game plan. He decided he was going to go to the press. But there was something that needed to be done first. The adult Sexton boys, Charles, Willie and Eddie Lee Jr. boarded up the windows of the house,

bought loads and loads of tinned food, put chicken wire up everywhere and then lined up with a bunch of weapons. Eddie Lee Sexton told his sons and his wife that he was going to force the DHS to give them all of the kids back, and when they did, they would get out of state. Not James, though. Eddie Lee told his other boys

that they would leave James in the basement of the house, chained to the ceiling to starve to death, as a punishment for speaking to the authorities. Sexton then rang a local newsroom and told them that his whole family were being harassed by the DHS and that he was barricaded inside his house in protest and that he was armed. Eddie Lee Sexton told the broadcaster

that he was ready to kill any worker or policeman that pulled into his drive. He was aiming his gun out of a window as they spoke. The newsroom told the police immediately, but the Stark County PD didn't give Eddie Lee Sexton the shootout he wanted. Instead, officers parked their patrol car a few streets away and called 1849. A seller answered first, but eventually they got the patriarch on the line. His mini Waco plan did not go as he wanted. The news crews never came, the police never approached the house and not a single shot was fired. All that happened was a very long phone

call. After three hours of negotiations an agreement was reached. Kimberley and Christopher Sexton would be allowed to stay in the house for now. And also a social worker was taken off the case because Eddie Lee didn't like her. He doesn't like her because she's black. He makes a big deal out of it. But Charles Sexton had to go. That was the agreement. Charles and Eddie Lee Sexton were arrested and taken down to the station, where Sergeant Glyn Goh was waiting for them.

Sexton refused to be interviewed by the law without his attorney present, but he did speak to Channel 5 News. He told the cameras that his kids were being taken away and that he just couldn't stand by and let that happen. When the journalist asked him about the molestation accusations, Eddie Lee Sexton denied them, all with a smile on his face. The police and the DHS upheld their side of the deal. Kimberly and Jane Sexton were left in that house.

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