RedHanded - Episode 92 - David Parker Ray: Scrap Metal Sex Toys

Episode Date: May 2, 2019

This week, the girls head to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, to cover arguably the most terrifying offender they have encountered: David Parker Ray aka The Toy-Box Killer.  In 1999 a 911 call alerted police to a naked woman, covered in blood, running down the dusty desert streets - she had a dog collar around her neck and a 6 foot metal chain trailing behind her. Upon investigation, this small-town police team uncovered the truly unbelievable horrors that had been unfolding right under their noses in an innocuous looking trailer behind 513 Bass Road...   Sources: redhandedpodcast.com  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Saruti. And welcome to Red Handed. This week is our first two-parter in absolutely ages. I was trying to think of what the last one we did was. I think it might have been Richard Chase. No, I think it was Fred and Rose West. Really? Yeah. They were after Richard Chase. Were they? Or maybe it was Fred and Rose West. Really? Yeah.

They were after Richard Chase. Were they? But they, or maybe it was Moores. Who knows? It was ages ago. It was absolutely ages ago. It was another lifetime. Lives were so different then.

Finally, finally, finally this week, we're taking you off to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. And as a lot of you have pointed out on the Facebook group, it actually used to be called Hot Springs, which is a lot less exciting. I believe that there are actual hot springs there. So someone was just like, that is what we will call it. One of my favorite games in the world to play is Lazy Words in English. Fireplace is my favorite. That's brilliant. I feel like there are just so many places in the world called hot springs in every language. So I was in Peru and it's like, it just sounds a lot better in Spanish. Most things do, don't they? Agua Escalientes.

It's like, oh, that sounds so much better than hot springs. But it doesn't sound as good as Truth or Consequences. We have talked about this town many, many times on this show, completely out of context and completely unnecessarily. The name of that town fucking scares me. Yeah. Maybe it's also all the murder and torture though. But that doesn't actually happen in Truth or Consequences. It happens down the road. All right. Which is what no one tells you, apart from us. Don't worry about it. I can understand why people say it's

Truth or Consequences, but it's not actually. Anyway, quick Truth or Consequences fact that you've shared with us on the Facebook group. The town changed its name from hot springs to the new more ominous sounding one in 1950 as a celebration of the 10-year anniversary of a popular radio quiz show with the same name what a weird prize that is outrageous the first town to say yes new weird name i don't even like what i don't know what to say to that why would you rename your town after a game show because it's the 10th anniversary none of that makes sense i'm not even sure they got any money for it i think they were just like yeah we will do that there's loads of hot springs so strange but it is memorable it was 1950 there wasn't much to do it is a memorable name for a town that's

true so as we said truth or consequences has a sister. I don't know if that's a sister town, but it's a very close town, just a nine minute drive away. It's got a bit of an odd Truth or Consequences and Elephant Butte, well, the nearest big road is the Interstate 25. And quite a few bits of our story happen on that road as well. Truth or Consequences and Elephant Butte are in the middle of the dusty desert. There really is not much around at all. They're 120 miles north of El Paso and 150 miles south of Albuquerque. So a lot of people who are there are just passing through. It all reminds me of like that opening scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Oh, very that. Yeah. Yeah. Very that. Where she's just running down this dusty road and bleeding and it's just no one there, nothing there, just like abandoned farmhouses. Fuck it. I can't. I can't cope. I'm

so scared. I think it probably is a bit like that too, because the populations are so small. Truth or Consequences says about 6,000 people living there and that number is dropping considerably. Elephant Butte has a population of, as of when I looked at this two days ago, just 1,341 people. That's mad. Quite a lot of people in this story have the same surname. Maybe that's why. So Elephant Butte might not have a lot of people, but it does have a state park that is home to a massive lake, which might seem unimportant at this stage. But remember it because it is a recurring theme in our story. Also something I found out when I was looking into this, in the 90s, which is where we are today. Welcome to the 90s, everyone. Life was simpler.

New Mexico had the fourth highest murder rate in the USA. A lot of people will tell you it had the highest. It didn't. It wasn't even second. It was fourth. And it was beaten by Nevada, Maryland, and Louisiana. In 1996, Louisiana had a homicide rate of 17.5 homicides per 100,000 people. So compared to that, New Mexico's 11.5 per 100,000 doesn't

really seem that bad. What is going on in Louisiana? That's what I want to know. I don't know. That's alarming. Isn't it? And even like the other two, Nevada and Maryland, they're like, I think one of them is like 14 or 12. Like no one is even close to Louisiana on the stats that I looked at. Wow. So today's case starts with the stories of four different women in the 90s in Elephant Butte. And this case ends with more horror than we could prepare you or ourselves for. We're going to start on the 24th of July 1996 with a 22 year old woman called Kelly Van Cleave. Sometimes you'll see her listed as Kelly Garrett. Which is

very confusing but I think that's probably, I think she might have got married later on. We'll call her Kelly. So Kelly lived in truth or consequences with her husband Patrick Murphy. The pair had been married for just two weeks and were living with Patrick's parents. My worst nightmare. And only two weeks in their marriage was already not going well at all. I don't think mine would be either if I was living with his parents. I know but I mean this is the 90s there's no excuse. Nowadays I'm like I'm never leaving. Did you ever watch My Family back in the day? Yeah. There are so many jokes in that show about Nick the oldest son who's 19 like oh when are you gonna move out you can't live here forever you couldn't put that on TV now because no one can afford to leave. Absolutely not. I would fucking protest if they put that

on TV now. Bloody baby boomers and house prices and all that shit. Not in this economy by Saruti Barlow. Not in this economy. Exactly. You know, as if living with Patrick's parents wasn't enough, the couple were also at each other's throats all the time. And on the morning of the 24th of July, after a particularly earth-shattering argument with her husband, Kelly left the house to calm down. But the thing is, Kelly didn't come back that night, or the night after that. Her husband Patrick was absolutely furious. He was convinced that Kelly was out with other men to spite him after their row, and he wasn't having any of it. His suspicions were confirmed when he received a call from a mate who told him that he had seen Kelly on the night of the 24th in a bar in Elephant

Butte called Blue Waters Saloon. Apparently, Kelly had been flirting with men in the bar and Patrick's mate didn't see who she left with. The Blue Waters Saloon is pretty notorious. It's a dive bar and its clientele included the homeless sex workers drug dealers and those that were just passing through it's just like a rough and tumble like transient bar oh yeah you can look up there's i looked up other bars in truth or consequences or elephant butte and there's like eight of them but that's it elephant butte is probably missing prohibition themed cocktail bars. I would assume so. Yeah.

No crawling through a washing machine to get to the toilet in this town. Exactly. And the thing is, we don't know exactly who was there that night when Kelly was there. But we do know two names of people who were definitely in Blue Water Saloon that night. Dennis Roy Yancey and Jesse Ray. They are just the most perfect names for this story. Honestly, not only are there a most perfect names for this story. Honestly, not only are there a lot of names in this story, all of them have three fucking names for some reason.

Almost all of them. Dennis Roy Yancey and Jesse Ray. It's great. It's great. Now, Dennis lived in Williamsburg, a village just outside of Truth or Consequences, and Jesse Ray was an elephant butte native. Dennis was in and out of the area. He had a dark past, including domestic violence and assault convictions. He couch-surfed his way around and when he ran out of amicable friends, he would always return to his parents' house in Williamsburg, where he was infamous. As a teen, he had terrorised the neighbourhood, poisoning cats and upturning gravestones.

And like most little shits, he had a gang of mates that hung on his every word. Out of boredom one autumn, Yancey decided that they would form a satanic cult and start stealing children. This news spread quickly through the area and Halloween was cancelled that year. It's just such a 90s thing because I feel like now kids just like cyber bully each other to death on the internet or like are taking bath salts and... slander man exactly but no they were like so 90s we're gonna start a satanic cult and steal children yeah perfect I'm bored I've run out of cats to murder Dennis Yancey is a real piece of work but he is nowhere near as bad as the major player in

today's case. But hold your horses because we've got to do some pretty major groundwork before we get to the top dog. Comparatively to Dennis, Jessie Ray was an angel. She rode a motorbike, dealt drugs and had some assault charges under her belt, but nothing massive in the scheme of things yet. Let's get back to Patrick. Remember, he was furious with Kelly for running off and for embarrassing him, quite frankly frankly imagine being married for two weeks and then your mate

calls you to tell you that he's seen your new wife in a bar flirting with other men yeah that makes a bad egg in my opinion well if it's not true then yeah if it's not true then fuck you but if it's true i'd want you to tell me that that's what was happening. Oh, no, I don't. No, thank you. Oh, you wouldn't. You wouldn't want to know. Oh, really? How interesting.

I'll find out eventually. I just actually, I don't know. Maybe I'll take that back. I don't know. I'm very confused. I find out eventually. I want to fucking know yesterday, mate. I've been single for five years.

I don't know. I don't know how these things work anymore. Let's not open this wound up on this show right now. This is already getting a long one. We don't have time to go through my entire dating history. No, we don't have time. We don't have time to delve down these side roads of trauma that we open up occasionally. There's enough trauma in this episode. Yes, Patrick is angry. He's embarrassed, etc, etc. So he decided that he wanted a divorce. Fuck it now. Right. Two weeks in, etc, etc. So he decided that he wanted a divorce. Fuck it now. Right,

two weeks in, I'm out. So he drove around trying to find Kelly, but he couldn't see any sign of her. The next morning, an Elephant Butte State Park Ranger vehicle pulled up outside Patrick's house and a very disheveled looking Kelly Van Cleave clambered out of the passenger seat. Can I say, Kelly, not a good look. It isn't a good look. No, it especially wasn't a good look because short of just turning up in this State Park Ranger vehicle, Kelly also looked like she'd come off the arse end of a massive fucking bender.

She was barefoot. That is the sign of a fucking night out when you are barefoot. Yeah. It has happened to me precisely once. No, twice. Fuck. Yes, twice.

And her hair was a state and her clothes were all over the place. Her eyes weren't even focusing properly and she was muttering to herself. And these may be pretty normal symptoms for someone who has been out getting fucked up for two nights on the trot. New Mexico is meth country after all. But Kelly was pretty straight edge. She didn't even drink that much. Now a man got out of the car wearing a state park uniform. And Patrick would find out years later that that man's name was David Parker Ray. God, just saying his name sends like shivers up my spine. So who was David? He was a maintenance man for the state park.

And if that isn't the most fucking Scooby-Doo baddie job title, like I literally don't know what it is. The only other thing I can think of is like, abandoned theme park security man. That's what he basically is, but just for nature. Nature's theme park security man. Yeah. Driving around in his car in the mystery machine. And as the name might suggest, if you've been paying attention,

David Parker Ray was also Jesse Ray's dad. Parker Ray told Patrick that he had picked Kelly up on the side of the road, looking like she was in trouble. So he had very kindly brought her home. When Patrick asked Kelly where the hell she had been for the past three days, she told him that she didn't know. She had no memory of the past 72 hours.

All she knew is that she had been in the Blue Water Saloon three nights before. She had had one drink and then started to feel a bit funny. And after that, everything was totally blank. Patrick did not believe a word of this story. He told Kelly that he wanted a divorce and that she would not be allowed back in the house to collect her things until she signed divorce papers. Fucking hell, hardball,

Patrick. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing hardball. But if it's not right, it's not right. You've changed your tune. I don't even know, man. I'm so hungry. So indecisive when I'm hungry. Like, tell me anything. Do you have a burger? Great. So David Parker Ray, after watching all of this unfold, offered to drive Kelly to wherever she needed to go. A dejected Kelly Van Cleave got back in the State Park truck with David Parker Ray and drove off, leaving her married home behind her. Parker Ray did drop Kelly off at one of her friends' houses and left. Two days later, Kelly returned to Patrick's house to collect her stuff. The couple divorced soon afterwards. Kelly still had no idea where she had been in those 72 hours. She had no memory of it at all, and she wouldn't for years.

But until the day her memory was recovered, Kelly was haunted by vivid nightmares of being shackled to a table. The sight of duct tape sent shivers down her spine, and she had no idea why. But until 1999, Kelly would dismiss all of these haunting dreams as just figments of her imagination and nothing to be afraid of. Now, we have got a long way to go before we get to Kelly's recovered memories. So we're going to leave her in 1996 and skip forward to July 1997, just under a year later.

It was the 4th of July weekend, and Elephant Butte was as busy as it ever got. 22-year-old single mum Marie Parker took her kids to the local swimming pool. Afterwards, she left her daughters with her mates and headed to the Blue Waters Saloon. Marie had not lived in Elephant Butte for long, but it had not been kind to her. Marie's children were not living with her, because she had recently gone through an incredibly rough breakup with one, Dennis Yancey. They had a very ugly relationship. Marie reported Dennis for domestic violence

and told her neighbor that he had raped her. In June of 97, Marie left Dennis for good. That meant that she lost the roof over her head and ended up living in a tent on the shore of the Elephant Butte Lake. Yeah, it's grim. She worked at a local convenience store and entrusted her friends to look after her kids

until she got herself together. That night, at about midnight, she told her mates in the Blue Water Saloon that she was going to go and check on her kids and that she would be coming back. But Marie never did come back. At first, her mates didn't take too much notice of Marie Parker's absence. They assumed that she was just with her kids. But the alarm was raised when they noticed that Marie's car was still in the car park of the saloon. Her friends drove around looking for her, but they had no luck. A few days later, they went down to the lake to see that her tent and all of her possessions were gone. Marie Parker was never seen again, by her mates or by anyone else. She just vanished.

But guess who had been in town for the 4th of July holiday weekend? Dennis Roy Yancey, Marie's violent ex-boyfriend. And guess who else was kicking around at the same time visiting her dad? Correct. Jessie Ray. If it's not already massively obvious, Dennis Roy Yancey and Jessie Ray? Something's going on. Something's going on in Elephant Butte, full stop. But it gets a lot worse, and nobody has noticed yet.

That's the key thing with this story. We are telling you what happened in chronological order, but nobody has connected the dots yet. Due to Marie Parker's personal situation and a history of suicidal thoughts, everyone just assumed that she had taken her own life in desperation. Her missing person's file remains open. And then our story goes quiet again until the 21st of February, 1999. Deputy Sheriff Gary Labor was driving up Interstate 25 when he saw a hitchhiker on the side of the road. He pulled over and asked her where she needed to go. He agreed to drive her up to Albuquerque, as he was headed that way anyway.

Her name was Angelica Montano. Over the course of the two-hour drive, she told the deputy sheriff the most outlandish story he had ever heard. This is the story she told. On the 17th of February, Angelica had been walking along the side of the road, minding her own business on her way to buy some ingredients for a cake. How innocent is that? that and then a motorhome slash rv situation pulled up next to her as she was walking angelica recognized the woman at the wheel it was 39 year old cindy hendy an elephant butte resident and live-in girlfriend of the 59 year old david parker ray i do feel like coming off the back of last week and I know his name wasn't High Spice but now Cindy Hendy. Cindy Hendy. I want to call her Cindy Hendy.

We're going to confuse them enough with all of the names. Okay strike that. And if you haven't already guessed this week all roads lead back to David Parker Ray. Angelica knew Cindy Hendy from around, but they weren't really mates. Cindy asked Angelica what she was up to, and Angelica filled her in on her cake mix quest. Cindy told Angelica not to bother to go to the shop because she had spare cake mix at her house that Angelica could just help herself to. Grateful for the generous offer, Angelica hopped in the RV. Cindy drove Angelica to 513 Bass Road, the home that she shared with David Parker Ray, and Parker Ray was waiting for them. Once Angelica was in the house, David Parker Ray almost immediately threatened her with a knife. He punched her in

the face and forced her to take all of her clothes off at gunpoint. Once she was naked, she was chained to a bed in the living room of 513. Then she was force-fed drugs and alcohol. She was told by her captors that these would help her forget everything they were about to do to her. They told her that when she was released, she wouldn't remember any of it. But unfortunately for Angelica Montano, that was nowhere near the truth. David Parker Ray then played Angelica, a tape recording of his voice. It was calm and measured, like it was a script he had rehearsed many times. But Angelica was in such a panic when she heard it,

she couldn't tell Gary Labor what the tape had actually said. But the tape did make one thing clear. Angelica was not going to enjoy what was going to happen next. David Parker Ray and Cindy Hendy sexually abused and tortured Angelica for hours on end. Their house was full of grotesque sex toys, designed specifically to inflict the most amount of pain possible. Angelica was subjected to the most extreme sexual torture imaginable. She was chained up, beaten, and electrocuted. During her three-day ordeal, Angelica was moved from the house into a trailer in the yard twice.

513 was adorned with chains, pulleys, shackles, enormous spiked dildos, and all kinds of restraints. But the house was nothing compared to what waited for Angelica in the trailer. David Parker Ray called it his toy box. Angelica claimed that she had been held captive for three days, and she decided that in order to save herself, she was just going to have to play the game. Eventually, she persuaded Parker Ray to let her go, promising that she would never tell a living soul what had happened to her. And miraculously, David Parker Ray let her go.

So three days after Cindy abducted her, Angelica ended up where she'd started, on the side of the road, which is where Deputy Sheriff Gary Labour picked her up. Gary was totally stunned by Angelica's story, but even though he was law enforcement, he did absolutely nothing about it. He thought it was a tall tale that Angelica had invented she didn't have the best reputation, and to him, she didn't seem like someone who had just endured three days of sexual torture. She was far too calm and laid back. So Gary didn't believe a word that Angelica had told him, and he dropped her off in Albuquerque

and put the whole thing out of his mind. But he wouldn't think that she was making it up for long. The sordid goings-on at 513 Bass Road were about to get very difficult to ignore indeed. Because a month later, at about 20 past three in the afternoon, a 911 operator picked up a call from 513 Bass Road in Elephant Butte. All they could hear was a muffled commotion on the other end of the line, and then the call was ended. The operator rang the number back and Cindy Hendy answered. She apologised to the operator for the previous call.

She said that it was a mistake and hung up once again. But the operator sent the local police to the address anyway. And when they got there, the house was empty. Minutes later, another 911 call was made. A local woman reported seeing a totally naked woman, covered in blood, running in circles on a road with a metal collar around her neck, connected to a six-foot chain. That's the image image isn't it that's the chainsaw massacre image it's like chainsaw massacre meets martyrs would you stop your car i want to say yes but i don't think i would i don't think i would if i was on my own

if i was with a guy i would want him to stop the car and if he didn't i would judge him the police after they got the call about this woman running around in the street naked covered in blood with a dog collar and a chain around her neck, the police tried and failed to locate this woman. But their search was swiftly brought to an end with yet another 911 call. The naked, chained woman had run into a couple's open front door begging for help. Her name was Cynthia Vigil, and she too had been held captive by David Parker Ray and Cindy Hendy. Just like Angelica Montano, they had held her hostage, tortured and raped her for three days.

So this was a pretty easy puzzle for the police to solve. They already had a patrol car at 513 Bass Road because of the original 911 call, and they knew exactly who lived there. Police collected Cynthia quickly and drove her to the nearest hospital, where they treated her cuts and removed the collar from her neck. Then Cynthia told the police her story. Cynthia was a sex worker and three days earlier she'd been standing in a car park up in Albuquerque waiting for business.

She was approached by a man who offered her $20 for oral sex. Cynthia agreed to the price and went with the man to his parked RV. Once in the vehicle, the man told Cynthia that he was actually an undercover police officer and that she was under arrest for solicitation, and the man was none other than David Parker Ray. His accomplice, Cindy Hendy, was waiting in the back of the motorhome, and she emerged to handcuff Cynthia. Once Cynthia was restrained, they started the 150- and she emerged to handcuff Cynthia. Once Cynthia was restrained, they started the 150-mile drive back to Elephant Butte. Cynthia was forced into 513

and led through the house of horrors at gunpoint. Each room had more torture devices than the last. Cynthia was restrained and played the same cassette tape that Angelica Montagna had been played the month before. Cynthia remembered listening to the calmness in David Parker Ray's voice and thinking that there was no way she was the first woman to be subjected to this. After the tape finished, Cynthia was given a series of electric shocks. She was chained to a bed in the living room and eventually the pain from the shocks became so great that Cynthia passed out. According to Cynthia, Parker Ray photographed the whole thing. He also showed her photographs

of many other women who had endured the same fate. For those of you who do want a more detailed account of just what David Parker Ray was doing to these poor women, hang on because we are getting there. On the morning of the 22nd of March 1999, Cynthia woke up, still chained to the bed in the living room of 513, and she watched David Parker Ray put on a dark blue uniform. She mistook this for a police uniform, but of course it was his state park mechanic outfit. Parker Ray undid Cynthia's arm and leg restraints, leaving her chained to the wall by the collar around her neck. Then he left for work. With Parker Ray gone, it was Cindy Hendy's turn to keep watch of Cynthia.

She managed this for the best part of the morning, but as the day wore on, she became less vigilant. Just after lunchtime, the house phone rang, and Cindy wandered off to answer it, leaving the keys to the collar around Cynthia's neck on the coffee table. Seizing her chance, Cynthia shuffled her way to the end of the bed and stretched her legs towards the table. She could just about reach it. Trying to make as little noise as possible, Cynthia pulled the table towards her, very slowly, using just her feet. Once it was close enough, she grabbed the keys and started to push the table back to its original position.

Then Cindy Hendy came back into the room. She immediately saw that the keys were gone and lunged for Cynthia, but Cynthia had already managed to undo the padlock that connected the chain around her neck to the wall. Cindy smashed the lamp over Cynthia's head, but it was not enough to knock her out. Cynthia somehow managed to get hold of the phone and dialed 911. That was the first call that we told you about, the one with just muffled commotion in the background. It was Cindy Hendy who hung up the call. Seconds later, Cynthia Vigil sliced the back of Cindy's head with an ice pick. The fact that there was an ice pick lying around the living room tells you a lot about the setup at 513. With Cindy Hendy now on the ground clutching her

head wound, Cynthia made a break for it. And that's how she ended up running through Elephant Butte, totally naked, with a collar around her neck, trailing a six-foot metal chain. When Cynthia gave this blow-by-blow account to the police, they were totally stunned. You have to remember that they didn't know what we already know. To them, this was totally out of the blue. The police had another ignorance-related problem. Due to Cynthia's profession, some members of the department had trouble believing her, and later on, so would the public. Quite a few people thought that Cynthia had been a willing participant in the bonded session at 513, and had only broken loose and started to cause trouble

when David Parker Ray had refused to pay her the previously agreed fee. Whether they believed Cynthia or not, the Elephant Butte Police Department thought they had better try to find David Parker Ray and Cindy Hendy. They were pretty easy to track down. Elephant Butte is a small place. Parker Ray and Hendy were driving around town looking for their captive. Cindy had a large wound on the back of her head by her left ear.

So the police started to put a little more faith in Cynthia Vigil and her story of abduction and torture. David Parker Ray and Cindy Hendy were pulled over in their RV by the police and Parker Ray was arrested immediately. Both of them told police that Cynthia was a heroin addict and that they had her chained up at their house to try get her through the worst days of her withdrawal. With a dog collar.

And naked. Right, yeah, covered in blood, that's how you do it. Now, David Parker Ray was taken off to a boat safety training centre in the Elephant Butte State Park because apparently it was better equipped than the actual police station. I mean, better equipped for what? Like, what do you need apart from a chair and a door? What does a boat centre have? That a police department... What does your police station look like?

Are you going to put him in a boat? Who knows? Are you going to interrogate him on the lake? It's very odd, but that's where they take him. Maybe it doubles up. Who knows? Now, Cindy Hendy was taken off to hospital because remember, she's got a massive ice pick gash in the back of her head. And unbelievably, unbelievably, they took her to the same hospital as Cynthia Vigil. I think that tells you how little they think what Cynthia is saying is true. And also maybe there's only one hospital. But yeah, you can't help but shake the feeling through this entire story that the police are just like, she's a sex worker.

So what if he tied her up, raped her, chained her to a wall? She was probably game. And then she just wasn't because he wouldn't pay her enough. So yeah, they take her to the same hospital. As soon as she saw Cindy, Cynthia started screaming at the hospital staff. She couldn't let her in there. cindy hendy kept a cool head and told the hospital staff that cynthia was a heroin addict and that they had better keep an eye on her because she's what gonna start being unchained

and not naked anymore like i don't know stealing all the morphine, drug-seeking behavior, probably that sort of thing. Yeah. But this story didn't work. David Parker Ray and Cindy Hendy were charged with assault, kidnapping, conspiracy, and unlawful penetration. That is such a troubling term. Very specific, isn't it?

Now, they were both moved to a detention center where they promptly stopped answering any questions. So who were these people? I bet by this point you're absolutely dying to know. And guess what? The wait is over. David Parker Ray was born in Bellin, a small town just south of Albuquerque. He and his sister Peggy lived mainly with his grandfather after his parents divorced, but they were regularly visited by their alcoholic father, who beat David Parker Ray savagely. Grandfather Ray wasn't exactly a

soft touch either. If David or Peggy put a toe out of line, they would be physically disciplined for it. Parker Ray's dad was the first one to introduce him to the world of BDSM. He used to hand over pornographic magazines that he didn't want anymore straight to little David. Wow. I don't even know what to say about that. Ever heard of just like a Werther's original? Like why a fucking pornographic BDSM magazine? Is that what your dad gave to you? We should take some Werther's original adverts and Photoshop in BDSM magazines. If anyone could do that please do it I really I would love to see that not in real life just love to see it in a satirical post we've talked about BDSM before and like you all know like we're not here to kink shame anyone if that's your thing fine but for me

things get very not fine in this story and that's what we're gonna get into I also think your dad giving you bdsm magazines when you're a literal child is not fine in anyone's book like i i would be amazed if someone managed to come for me on the internet over that fuck off if anyone is like oh my god they're kink shaming no shut the fuck up and i also do think about this sometimes and anyone who is into this like i'd be interested to know i am absolutely not kink shaming anybody but i kind of feel like if you've got some pretty extreme kinks don't you want people to be like weirded out by them because otherwise it's not kinky? Oh, good point. I don't know. I'm so boring that like, I just,

I don't know. Oh my God, I'm so boring. If you're into kinky stuff, don't you kind of want people to be like, oh my God, like freaking out some squares. Like if you're not freaking people out, is it that kinky oh i've got a friend who is a dominatrix and she will talk about it all day because she loves watching people's but like she'll literally do it when you're introducing her to a new group of people and you're like come on can you just be chill for like one second that's my side track into the world of kink and just my thoughts on the matter case closed let's move on but not for long because it's basically the entire rest of the show yeah it's gonna get

there's no escaping it this time little david was bullied at school for being awkward he struggled with talking to girls and he spent a lot more time with his cast-off bondage magazines than he did with other kids little david started to draw pictures of sadomasochistic sex acts and collect cuttings of sex physicians, which his sister found. Imagine explaining that to your sister. Like, how do you even have that conversation? She probably had no idea what she was looking at. A no conversation.

If I found that, I'm just closing that box and walking away. Never to be spoken of again. This sparked a lifelong fascination with the sadism scene eventually david parker ray wouldn't be able to get any sexual satisfaction unless someone was in serious pain we've talked about this idea before where like there's a massive difference between people who are into there's not even a massive difference it's a world apart people who are into consensual bdsm and people who are like David Parker Ray and into sadistic torture porn behavior. Like this is just a completely different thing. They're not even to be

like slightly equated. That's very, very important to make that very clear. People like David Parker Ray, like we've talked about before, during their sexual development, when he's looking at these magazines, etc, something happens, something gets fused with that it's the violence it's the humiliation that he faces with his alcoholic father beating him his grandfather beating him and all of that somehow just sort of gets meshed together with his sexual development and then this is what the outcome is the outcome of this story is what you get oh it's so hard like i'm obviously he turns into an absolute despicable excuse for a human being but i don't know whether his sexual development...

I mean, obviously, it is a part of it because what he goes on to do is so explicitly sexual. Like, I can't even... I think that's the risk, isn't it? When that kind of violence gets meshed with sexual development because that's when people can't stop. But you have to have the beginning elements for that. He would already have had to have been a disturbed child. Something would have had to have been missing in him for him to have become the way that he was. So natural psychopathic tendencies, violence, abuse, and it just happens to happen around his sexual

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I wonder how at what line when does your sex drive become so uncontrollable does it ever that it drives you to kill people I don't know but I believe that it would because I think, think about anybody's, even like a normal, quote unquote, normally sexually motivated person. It's very hard. And also think that people like this who have those psychopathic tendencies have very, very low impulse control. And they already, the prefrontal cortex is damaged slash not working. You lose that empathy. All of that is missing. So a normal person that just has normal sexual desires, it's very hard to hold yourself back from what you want. Imagine if you're gay and you grow up

in a place where you're told that's wrong. It's only so long you can go before you need to explore that because we're so driven by our sexual urges. And this person take the perfect storm of the no empathy, the no impulse control and whatever it is that turns him on i just think we are driven by that a lot and someone like him i just don't think he would have been able to stop i'm not making excuses for him at all i'm not like oh it's just all nature and blah blah he chose to do this he chose to do this 100 and like sadism manifests itself in in people in different ways and obviously there are safe ways of doing it. But what he is doing is absolutely not safe.

And FBI profiler Dr. Mary Eleanor Toole had a really good analogy for how people like David Parker Ray operate. And this is what she said. She says, if you use a tissue to blot your lipstick in the morning and you throw it away, do you spend the rest of your day wondering what happened to that tissue? Like, do you worry if it got home safe to all its like little tissue friends? Like, no, you never think about it again. And that's how David Parker Ray thought of his victims. He caught them, he used them, he got rid of them, and he never thought about them again. And the idea that somehow he was thinking, oh, well, if there was only a way I could do this without hurting people, I just don't buy it.

He's a sadistic killer in its, or a sadistic rapist in the most pure sense. He's not a product killer like Dharma, who just wanted to kill people and then have the end result. The process is what got David Parker Ray off. So if there was a way for him to have sex with people without hurting them, I don't even think that he would be able to contemplate that there would be a way for him to have sex with people or get off without hurting them. It's just very strange. And I don't believe that he ever thought that or said that. And the thing is with David Parker Ray, he was really good at what he did. And as you'll see in a bit, he had a technique for releasing the women that he abused. He used it on multiple victims. And if it hadn't been for Cynthia Vigil's escape, he might have got away with it all. Along with his abusive childhood, David Parker Ray bears another hallmark of the heavy hitter.

He was in the army for a few years and was honorably discharged. He was a great mechanic and had a reputation for being able to fix absolutely anything. This skill served him well throughout his life. Not only did he get a mechanics job at the state park in Elephant Butte, he could also make all of the hellish mechanical sex toys that his heart desired. By the time he had settled in Elephant Butte, David had divorced four times. His first wife alleges that he often told her of how he had abducted a woman when he was just 15 years old and that he had tied her to a tree and murdered her.

But the other things about David Parker Ray that we have to bear in mind all the time is that we don't know how much of the myth surrounding him is actually fact and how much of it is just stuff that he made up. David Parker Ray was well liked in Elephant Butte. All of his colleagues at the state park had nothing but nice things to say about him. He was famous for throwing big parties, especially on Halloween. But despite his community-loving experience, David Parker Ray was actually no stranger to the authorities. Back in 1986, he had been reported to the FBI by his own daughter, Jessie, who we've already met. But don't worry, she comes back later. Jessie told the FBI that her dad was stealing girls and selling them as slaves to buyers in Mexico.

The FBI questioned David Parker Ray in 86, but nothing ever came of it. No evidence was found and he was never charged. Many suspected that Jessie was trying to spite her dad over some drug money that he owed her. And the tip was just totally dismissed and David Parker Ray was left to his own devices. What we can sum up from our background check on Parker Ray is that he had all the makings

of a classic serial killer. But the question that lingers with the Parker Ray case is did he actually do any killings? The Elephant Butte Police Department had the same question as they started their investigation. Cynthia Vigil was big news in a small town and it spread like wildfire. So it didn't take very long for Deputy Sheriff Gary Labour to realise that the story Cynthia was telling sounded very familiar to the one a hitchhiker had told him just a month before. But Gary being Gary, he couldn't remember Angelica's name. But to his credit, he did still come forward and offered his intel to the investigation. So now, law enforcement were starting to feel like this might not be a one-off occurrence.

It was looking very unlikely that Cynthia had been chained up to help kick her heroin problem. David Parkeray and Cindy Hendy were far from the humanitarians they were painting themselves to be. This suspicion was further confirmed when the police received yet another tip. It was from a local couple who were close with Cindy Hendy. The couple told them that Cindy had got drunk at their house the month before and told them that Parker Ray had abducted and tortured a woman called Angela before dropping her off on the I-25. At the time, this couple had just brushed this off as a drunken story.

Cindy Hendy had a reputation for making things up, but now they weren't so sure. That is two people in this town. That's Deputy Sheriff Gary Labour and now this couple. So three people who have heard this story of unbelievable sexual torture. And they're just, just oh normal Tuesday afternoon in Elephant Butte like what what I just feel like is it that small town mentality though of like reputation stick you can't trust that girl she always lies drama I feel like that's the reason again I'm not making excuses but I feel like that's the reason it's that small town thing

that underpins this entire story. I think you're right. I think, and also not believing women is a big underpinning theme this week. Of course. I feel like David Parker Ray is like this lad, you know, he's a mechanic down at the state park. He's got these mates. He's like John Wayne Gacy, you know, the acceptable face out in public, throwing these

parties, being like a real man's man. And then there's all these women that he picks that are like you know that have quote-unquote bad reputations and can't be trusted and i just think people in a town like this are like yeah of course of course he's telling the truth they're just lying they ignore the story but you have to admit that angela sounds quite a lot like angelica but we have to remember that the police don't know Angelica Montano's name yet because useless Gary can't remember. So officers don't have a chance in hell of tracking her down. But they didn't need to because Angelica caught wind of Parker Ray's

arrest all the way back up in Albuquerque and decided she had to tell her story. Good girl, Angelica. Now on the 27th of March, Angelica showed up at 513 Bass Road and told the police every detail of her ordeal and many details matched up with Cynthia's story. It was also the 27th of March when the police received their search warrant for 513. She drives straight down to the house. They're already there because they've got a search warrant. To 20 police officers and 30 FBI agents descended on the house and cataloged the true horror within. They found all the whips, chains, torture devices, shackles, ropes, scrap metal sex toys, which is just a phrase I never ever want to say again. You should see a

picture of it. It's one of the most horrific things I've ever seen in my life. I think we're going to be quite choice in what we share on social media. The thing is with this one, it's one of the most horrific things I've ever seen in my life I think we're going to be quite choice in what we share on social media the thing is with this one it's so famous like if you want to see it you can find it but I think we do have to be quite careful about what we're putting in putting out there because otherwise it's just going to turn to some sort of like audio porn show and we're not about that and I also don't want our fucking Instagram just covered in fucking scrap metal sex toys no I mean you can Google it and you can find it so easily. I also found out this week that there is an island in Canada called Dildo Island. No word of a lie, that is absolutely true.

Brilliant. Bit of comic relief for you there, ladies and gentlemen. Those Canadians, what are you like? So yeah, they go in, they find everything that Cynthia and Angelica described. And there was also graphic pornography on almost every wall. You really couldn't look anywhere without seeing something overtly and perversely sexual. I'm just like, doesn't that just get a bit... How numb is this man?

Oh, and it's Cindy as well. She's living there. But it's just, it's everywhere. I think it's so normal for them. Like, obviously, if you or I walked into a room like that, we couldn't get out quick enough. But they're just sitting there eating their cornflakes, hanging their stuff on dildos. I don't know. They've got a coat rack made of cocks.

Yeah, but it's very typical of like that kind of offender because they're so far gone that it takes such a rush. It takes such a high threshold for them to get off that this is his baseline oh yeah because he's been doing this for years like think that's what convinced me about how long he's been doing this is just the state of his house and how many years it would have taken to collect all of these things many of which he was physically making with his own two hands he was doing this for decades he's like an artisan torturer and rapist oh no don't get it don't get it alan summers i'll make my own because i need to put my own stamp on it but it's because again of the joy and the pride and the dedication he had to this it wasn't just gonna do like an off the shelf

whatever he had to make it with his hands and put all his like quote unquote love and attention into he just fucking loved this he loved and also nothing out there was not he's gonna do it's gonna do it for him you know he he's so extreme and this is the 90s like i'm sure that there was a catalog orderable enormous spike dildos, but they weren't what he wanted. They were like, even the darkest corners of the BDSM community didn't have what he needed. So he had to make it himself. And this has always been a back of the mind case for me. Like I've always sort of known about it.

And I assumed that all of the torture equipment was in the trailer in the toy box in the yard but it wasn't it was everywhere it was throughout the whole house i just can't imagine living there just like eating your toast swinging dongs everywhere on the door like in every picture frame but i think that's the whole point of it he's so like i said he's so numb to this this is like i said this is his baseline this is like just keeping him at that point of not freaking out. And he needs to go even further beyond this to get any kind of thrill or to get off in any real sense. That's what makes him so terrifying. And yes, there were things absolutely everywhere.

But some things were hidden. Like a large collection of jewellery, name badges, watches, and other trinkets that didn't seem to belong to Parker Ray or Hendy. And this set off, obviously, major trophy-keeping alarm bells. There were 401 unique items in this collection. Just think about that for a second. Even if he took two off every woman, that's 200 women minimum. Now things got even worse when Parker Ray's diaries were discovered.

It appeared that Parker Ray kept ordered, sordid accounts of every assault he ever committed. And some of the women in his diaries did die. He never wrote down their names though. So who was to say whether this was true or just the outlet of a twisted sadistic fantasist but then again maybe some women brought to 513 to fulfill parker ray sexual fantasies didn't make it out alive looking at the torture implements it's not hard to believe that some of them wouldn't survive what he does. Absolutely. And like he claims to be sort of quite medically adept, but like how can he?

No, sorry. And I wish I could say that the diaries were the worst piece of evidence that the police found in the house. But it's not even close. The police also uncovered the cassette recording that Cynthia and Angelica remembered being played. And it was just as they had described. It was David Parker Ray speaking calmly and deliberately about what he was going to do to them. And I think that's the thing with it, because we've listened to people reading it out loud,

because an actual transcript of it, that he's saying it doesn't exist, like an actual recording. But it's how calm he is. Yeah, and that's the thing that uh is in the court documents as well like it's honestly i feel like it was just admin for him like i think he had done it so many times that he was like do you know what i just can't be bothered to tell them the same shit over and over again i'll just record myself and then i can just go and like have a swift wank while they get ready it's like he industrialized the whole process like he mechanized oh that's exactly the word

that's exactly the word he just like makes a fucking recording of himself calmly doing it or telling them all what he's gonna do he's not frantic he's not like you know screaming or like sweating and shaking while he's saying it it's so calm and it's so fucking scary i can't even it's absolutely hideous. The recording of him actually speaking doesn't exist, as Siri just said, but I have found the full transcripts online and we're not going to read the whole thing.

If you want to find it, you can find it pretty easily, but make sure you take your brain bleach. I have read all of it. I've read five different versions of it because they found different sort of rehearsings of the tape. I've read all of it. I've read five different versions of it because they found different sort of rehearsings of the tape. I've read all of them. It's the most graphic thing I have ever read in my life. It genuinely kept me up for a few nights. It's pretty ugly stuff. Yeah, if you want to read it, it's out there, but we're not going to subject you to it against your will. So we've just picked some choice bits to give you an idea of what Parker Ray was going to do to the women in his home,

how long he was doing it for, and just how good he was at getting away with it. The tape is so detailed, it gives us a step-by-step guide to his particular brand of abuse. Like many true crime podcasts, it starts with a disclaimer. The following is for entertainment purposes only. And then the tape really starts with, hello there, bitch. Parker Ray then explains that they are listening to the tape because they are being kept prisoner for his sexual pleasure and for that of his lady. He states that the tape was made on the 23rd of July, 1993, a full six years before Cynthia Vigil's escape. And he also says that he's been kidnapping women for years.

So even he says, even by 93, this is after decades of him doing this, Parker Ray tells the listener that they will be kept like an animal. They will be fed, watered, cleaned, and allowed to use the bathroom. They will be trained to tolerate pain, raped multiple times a day day and made to perform oral sex on both him and his lady. He calls this an enlightening crash course in sex. This lady he refers to can't be Cindy Hendy because they didn't meet until 1998, years after the tape was made. Parker Ray claims to snatch five to six girls every year. If that is true, his victim count could have easily been in the 30s by 99. He then explains that unless the captives cause any trouble, they will be released. He says, quote, I don't like killing a girl unless

it's absolutely necessary. He had what he called a safe method of disposal. He claims in the tape to use a combination of sodium pentanol and phenobarbital on all of his captives before releasing them, which left them with no memory of what had just been done to them. Why do you think he doesn't kill them? I think he kills the ones that he thinks will be missed. I think the ones that he lets go, ones that he doesn't think are going to cause any trouble, and also getting rid of bodies is a pain in the ass.

That's true. I think you're right. He doesn't get rid of the ones that he knows won't be believed. So fuck it. Just take these drugs. Off you go. No one's going to believe you. And I don't have to deal with the massive hassle of getting rid of your body. I was also thinking about it and I was like, is it because he quite enjoys the fact? Because he's such a sadist if you kill somebody yes of course it's fucking the most awful thing you can do but that person's pain has then ended but if you let them go off into the world even if

you think they don't really remember some part of them will know it's a small town he's probably seeing these women walking around and knowing. That's the thing. He takes Kelly Van Cleave back to her own house. Exactly. Exactly. So I think there is more to it than just like a laziness to not want to get rid of a body. He, I think it's part of the thrill for him. Because he is so clinical about things and he's so organized.

I think just the getting rid of a body thing, he knows that that increases his chances of getting caught a thousandfold. It is interesting. But then, you know, most rapists do transcend into killers because they realize the best way to get away with rape is to not leave a witness. I don't think you can say most rapists. Okay. A lot of rapists that end up on that. Like, and you know, we've talked about the different types of rapists. I'm not talking about like your Brock Turner rapists. I'm talking about serial rapists. Now, Parker Ray also describes a metal frame that he would strap his victims into

so that they would be totally immobile while they were raped by him, his mates, and, prepare yourselves, his dog. It's genuinely the only thing i have read researching this show that i wish i hadn't read i can't get it out of my brain it's there forever it's so graphic he gives a detailed list of what he likes and what he doesn't like and how his victims would be punished

with electric shocks when they got it wrong. There is also a detailed description of what Parker Ray called his toy box, the white trailer in his garden. He claimed that it had a gynecological table, a sign that called it Satan's Den, syringes, clamps, drugs, and all manner of leg spreaders that he had all made himself. Then in a bizarre twist, Parker Ray describes a medical questionnaire that he would fill out on all his captives that included details like how many children they'd had and when their periods were. This is what I mean, he's so ordered about it. He thinks he's a doctor. He genuinely does. It's role play for him. He loves it. It's all part of the fantasy, the total control.

The police found these questionnaires and they found stacks of them. And this is how the tape that he plays to all his victims ends. Be smart and be a survivor. Don't ever scream. Don't talk without permission. Be very quiet. Be docile and obedient. And by all means means show proper respect.

Have a nice day. Now they found all of this in the house. Officers had yet to open the white trailer in the backyard of 513 Bass Road. And at this stage, it was still a bit unclear whether all of this was real or an elaborate game. cynthia and angelica have been part of an elaborate role play gone sour nothing could prepare the police for what they would find inside the white trailer but you'll have to wait for next week for that because that is when we will take you inside the toy box so sit tight and don't have nightmares because we have had enough for everybody you get the vibe next week we're going into the toy box into the toy box thanks for listening i hope you're still there i don't think we've got any announcements this week if

you're listening to this we're in cuba we are in cuba having a fucking hundred percent needed holiday i honestly can't wait. I'm so excited. I feel like I've aged about 50 years in the past three months. I'm going grey, you know. I found a grey.

I've got two white eyebrow hairs and a grey hair on my head. Oh no. It's you lot. You've all turned me grey. Oh no. I think it's David Parker Ray. They've just sprouted

over the course of the last week. It's literally in the last week just sprouting. Thank God we both dye our hair. No one will ever know. The one saving Grace. Thank you guys so much. Yes, we are in Cuba, hopefully having a great time.

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