RedHanded - FROM THE VAULT – The Murdaugh Family Murders | #287

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

BREAKING NEWS: Alex Murdaugh WILL face a new trial. A South Carolina court has overturned the 2023 murder convictions of ex-lawyer Alex Murdaugh. Five out of five Supreme Court judges ruled that he deserved a new trial because the jury had been unfairly biased against him.Listen to our full episode from 2023, to get the full story on one of the most sprawling true crime cases out there…--The Murdaugh murders are not one story; they are a seemingly endless web of lies, entitlement, and confusion. At the centre of the web are the bodies of Paul and Maggie Murdaugh, found at their hunting lodge.But tangled in it are the tragic deaths of three other completely innocent people, dragged in by the most powerful family in South Carolina.--Patreon - Ad-free & Bonus EpisodesYouTube - Full-length Video EpisodesTikTok / Instagram

Hello, terrible news, bad news, awful news. Elek Murdoch has had his conviction overturned by the Supreme Court. Five out of five Supreme Court judges overturned his conviction. His conviction for the murder of his wife and his son. And the argument was that the county clerk, Rebecca Hill, biased the jury against Ehrlich Murdoch. Which she did, but things can be two things.

So here you are, our episode on The Murdoch Murder, that we did a couple of years ago, before he was convicted, actually, is a reminder of the Murdoch case for you and why it is so outrageous that Ellick Murdoch is getting a new trial. Outrageous, but predictable. If you want to know even more, take yourself over to Mandy Matney, nobody knows more about the Murdox than Mandy Matney. She knows more than they do, honestly.

Take yourself over to Mandy Matney or the MMP podcast. Or read her book. But here is our summary of the Murdoch murders. And after you've listened to it, you'll understand why I'm so upset. This episode, we decided at the last minute to do. This year we have been doing more reactive stuff like Delphi and Idaho, and you guys have been loving it. So against my better judgment, I voice noted through, I think last week,

and was like, shall I just do the Murdog murder? Shall I just do it? I think I can get it done. So that's what we've done. That's what we're doing. She's done it. I have done it. Because I think like one's like Resputin that you just like you take your time with like blah blah blah.

Sometimes it's quite nice to do ones like this that you're like, you know what? I can turn this around a week. Oh, absolutely. So reminding ourselves of excellence. I heard this. I think it's Viola Davis. It was like sometimes I have to remind myself that I'm Viola Davis

so I can be Viola Davis for everyone else. So I'm Viola Davis and this is Red Handing. My co-hosts for tonight, everybody. But no, I'm very excited about this case. Hannah, can we do one last. name reminder. Yes. Of how to say this name. Yes.

Ehrlich, like Relic. Even though it's about Alex. Yes. Like Alex. Yes. And Murdoch like Sherlock. Okay. Elek Murdoch. Exactly.

Got it. Because a lot of the producers on our team thought that his son name was murder. Yeah. The murder murders. The murder murders. Good. And that's what I thought. But it's also...

Alex's murder. Murder by name. Murder by murder. Fuck it up. It would only be better if his name was Johnny. Johnny murder. Johnny murder. People do get it wrong.

But that is quite a good sign that they haven't done their reasons. Oh, shade. Anyway, I have. So let's get on with it. This is not one story. It's not even the five stories that we're going to tell you this episode. This case is so tangled that you can't even really call it a web. What you can call it is Hannah's Woolhamper,

because it has so many strands wrapped around each other that there is absolutely no hope of them ever being separate ever again. So we never want to open the hamper. It stays in the doom cupboard forever. But we can't always get what we want. So we are heading to the doom cupboard. We are opening the door to the doom cupboard and we are opening the dreaded wool hamper

of the Murdoch murders by Johnny Murder. The Murder Murders. You asked we listened and we stayed up very late on the Sabbath. If you've turned on a TV recently, you'll know that there is an enormous amount of ground to cover. and we, your humble servants, just cannot do it all. To that end, we implore you. The absolute best source out there on the Murdoch case is the Murdoch Murders podcast, sometimes referred to as MMP, created and hosted by Mandy Matney, who is the news director of Fitz News.

We just can't do it all. There are pretty significant storylines I've had to leave out, including a life support machine being turned off. But if you want to find those, go find Mandy. Absolutely. Mandy is your girl because she has put over four years of her life into investigating the Murdoch family. And I did, there was a pause, wasn't there? It just looks wrong. And also she spent so much time looking into all the kind of dark corners, every single like element of this case.

Like Hannah said, we just can't compete. So this episode will be a summary of the story so far. If you want more detail, including 911 calls and more in-depth analysis, then go listen to Mandy. This is a red-handed episode. We are not an investigative podcast, so there are things that we have had to leave out. MMP and Mandy, go find them wherever you listen to your podcasts,

and they will tell you everything you want to know because by the end of this episode, you will definitely be wanting to know more about Mr. Ehrlich Murdoch. And that is a promise, a guarantee if you will. No money back. This story, because there is so much to it, could start in any number of places, but we have decided to start with a boat because it's our show and we can do what we want. So let's begin with a boat. And this boat, like everything

in this story, was and probably still is in South Carolina. And the story that this boat is at the centre of is sometimes known as the Chappaquiddick of South Carolina. Don't worry, I had no idea either. Yeah, I was immediately lost, reading less. And when Mandy says it in the MMP podcast, she just skate straight over it and I was like, wait, what? I don't know what that is. Americans do know what it is. I know what it is now. Basically, you still haven't watched Succession, have you? No. So this basically happens in Succession. It's season one. Don't come from me for spoilers, like whatever. Basically, in 1969, Ted Kennedy, yes, that kind of Kennedy, was driving 29-year-old Mary Jo Kepetchnie in his car. And he drove his car off a bridge into the water. Kennedy escaped the

upturned vehicle, but he left Mary Jo to drown. Her body was recovered the next morning, and as a consequence, Ted Kennedy was banished and he did not run for president. Black Sheep Kennedy? The would-be president. So yeah, that's what Chappaquiddick is. And now we all know. But our story is a more modern aquatic incident. The 24th of February 2019 was date night in Hampton County, South Carolina. Mallory Beach, her boyfriend Anthony Cook and two other couples were off to an oyster roast. They were all about college age between 18 and 20, but before we continue, what on earth is an oyster roast? I will answer this question, but I will admit that I did not know. Okay. Good. So basically, it's like a barbecue

but oysters. And I think that cooked oysters are foul. I will eat a raw oyster till I die. I love them, they are my fave. Cook them, no gross vomit. But I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, all of you oyster roasters out there, but I believe you just get a ton of oysters and then you barbecue them in their shells and then you crack them open. So it's just like an outdoor, eaty fun time. Got it. So they're on their way to one of those, being all young and whatnot. Now there are a lot of names in this story. So we are going to leave some of them out just to make things easier to follow because otherwise you're just all going to be incredibly confused. Yeah. So do, if you notice that we have left out someone's proper name, it is intentional,

but it's not because they're not important. It's just for the sake of telling the story in a way that you will be able to follow. Yeah. So I may not know much about oyster roasts, but I do know loads about underage drinking. I think we both do. So before this group headed to the oyster a fiesta that they were going to, they went to a shop to buy some white claws or like whatever else white teens drink in South Carolina. And this shop was called Parkers. Now that may seem like an unimportant piece of information but we'll need it later on so, you know, put it under your hat. Your oyster hat. Your oyster hat. Paul Murdoch, one of the boyfriends in the group, went into Parkers and made the illegal purchase. He was just 19. Remember, in the US, you've got to be

21, which just still blows my mind. Yeah, but if you want to join the army, 18, no problem. Being underage and going into buy booze didn't phase a guy like Paul Murdoch. He had his mum Maggie's credit card and his older brother Buster's fake ID. Despite looking almost nothing like his brother, they're very different sizes, and he very definitely did not have the name Maggie. Paul purchased the forbidden nectar without issue and carried it back to his friends who are waiting in the car. He carried his bounty aloft in a gesture of victory, which under US alcohol sales law is known as a third-party gesture.

So that's the buying of alcohol to distribute to somebody else. Oh, I thought you meant the holding it aloft. No, it is. Oh, right. It's like a celebration thing. So he's like, I've got it and I'm giving it to you. And under the law, that's a thing. Oh, wow.

Yeah, Parker's getting quite some trouble later on. Anyway, the group of mates had heard that there would be a booze checkpoint on the road that night. and with their illegal cargo taken into account, they decided that it would be better to take Paul's dad's boat to the oyster roast instead of the car. It's good to have choices. This boat was 17 feet, which might sound huge, but you can very easily find pictures of it.

It's really not. And six people in a boat like that was definitely a squeeze. And also the lights didn't work. Oh, good. Nevertheless, the kids got to the oyster roast in that boat without incident, and they all had a jolly old time. So jolly that Anthony, Mallory's boyfriend, suggested that the whole gang take an Uber back to Paul Murdoch's river house.

Yes, he has a river house, he has many houses, rather than the boat. He's a smart guy, he's like, hey guys, you know, I was all for the boat on the way here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we've all been drinking, the lights don't work, it's dark, let's just take an Uber, it will make no difference. We don't have any booze on us anymore, they can't stop us. So yeah, Paul's not having any of it. He was absolutely hammered, but determined. to drive the whole gang back in the boat.

With no lights. With no lights. But not before making another stop at a bar for some more shots. I think, obviously Americans and British people drink in very different ways. We drink ourselves to death. They're not as consistent drinkers, you know. But Americans love a shot. Yeah.

Like I saw... They're so big as well, the shots. They're huge! A friend of mine who lives in Tennessee, she's doing a PhD at Vanderbilt. I saw her, she was over here for a conference and I met her in a pub and it was a Sunday night and I was like, oh, what do you want? She was like, oh, a beer and a shot and I was like, I cannot go to a bar

on a Sunday night and order a shot. I'm sorry, I just can't do that. So, different. Exactly. Yeah, I was watching 90 day fiancé. This woman's like, I just need to go out and have a drink and she's out with her friends and they order shots. But they come in like tumblers

and I was like, that's not a shot and then she shot the whole thing. It was like a drink of tequila. It was madness. No shade. I mean, like you do you, I'm just saying that we don't have very shoddy culture in this country. No, no thank you. Paul Murdoch was a particularly obnoxious drunk.

Surprise, surprise. And everyone knew it. He shouted, he spat, he took his clothes off and was just all around generally insufferable. He's very lads, lads, lads, right? Yeah. His friends even had a nickname for drunk Paul. It was Timmy. Try harder, you know.

Timmy. Uh-oh, Timmy's back. Timmy the drunk. Only pool, or should we say, Timmy. And Connor Cook went into the bar. Connor is Anthony's cousin and another half of the final couple that were there that day. So the boys in the boat. Yeah.

And we do need to know all of their names. Paul Murdoch, Connor Cook, Anthony Cook. Connor and Anthony are cousins. Yes. And while they go do this, the rest of the group, including Mallory and Anthony, stay with the boat. There is CCTV to prove this. But the thing is, they're not happy.

They're tired, probably cold and just want to go home. But Paul being Timmy. Yeah, he's the one that can't call it a night. No, he can't. And Connor seems to be all for it. Paul and Connor were the only ones to go into the bar. The bar was called Luther's, and they were actually only in there for about nine minutes.

They had two shots each before Paul started throwing chairs around. Jimmy. And they headed back to the boat at about one o'clock in the morning. And Paul, like an utter maniac, still thought he was the only one who could possibly drive the boat. He says things like, I know this river better than any of you, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, it starts off, probably terrifying, but kind of okay, he does set off quite slowly. I just love the idea of like throwing chairs, coming out, frantically arguing with everybody that you're going to drive the boat. But then just like very slowly moving out along the river.

I mean, good, safe. But then, in a classic Timmy move, Paul Murdoch took off all of his clothes. The rest of the group didn't love this, and we're not going to go into too much detail about what happened, if you want to know, Mandy can tell you, but basically an argument happened, and then that argument escalated to Paul pushing, shouting and spitting at his own girlfriend, and then rapidly accelerating.

And the boat got up to 29 miles per hour, which is fast for a little boat with no lights on a narrow creek. With a drunk driver. With a drunk driver who's naked, yeah. Mallory and Anthony were so scared that they sat on the floor of the boat clutching at each other. And they were right to be scared

because just moments later, the boat rammed into a bridge piling on Arthur's Creek. Mallory, Anthony and Paul were all thrown from the boat. Connor remained on the boat, but he broke his jaw during the collision. There was blood everywhere. But despite his severe injury, Connor was the one to call 911. The dispatcher wasted ages trying to figure out where he was.

And she actually resigned a few months later because of this. Yeah. It's pretty bad. You know, in really early Kanye when he's just out of the car crash, and you can kind of hear that he can't move his jaw, that's what the 911 call sounds like. And he's so clearly, in a lot of pain, terrified. And the woman is just like, so where are you? And he's like, I just told you.

Oh no. Oh no, oh no. Because it should have been pretty simple. Arthur's Creek is not that big. And they were the only boat in the water. But the 911 operator just didn't seem to get it. Eventually, Conn managed to explain that there were six of them. They had been in a boat crash. And that one of them was missing.

19-year-old Mallory Beach, Anthony Cook's girlfriend, never emerged from the water. Her body wasn't recovered for a week. after the crash. As first responders started to show up, they treated the injured and tried to find Mallory. All of the kids on the boat were questioned. Anthony Cook stated very clearly that Paul Murdoch was driving the boat when it crashed. He also added, you know Alec Murdoch? That's his son. Good luck. Anthony Cook had lived in Hampton County, South Carolina his whole life and he ain't no dummy. The Murdoch family ran Hampton County. They had done for over a century, and they made sure everyone knew it.

Paul Murdoch especially was known for saying things to the effect of, I'm a Murdoch, I can do whatever I want. Yeah. A couple of news reports I saw about this said things like Hampton County is actually called Murdoch County. Like that's how much this family ran the fucking show there. It's so like gone with the wind, old money, deep south stuff. So let's take a look at this family. They had been solicitors of Hampton County from 1920 to 2006.

That's three generations of elected officials. Elected in inverted commas. Yeah, kind of like a district attorney. Yeah, I will hold my hands up. I haven't given an enormous amount of time to understanding the South Carolina justice system, but it does seem to be different. They have district attorneys, they have solicitors. I believe they're similar. I'm probably wrong.

We don't need to know. if you want to know, Mandy knows. Yeah, it's basically they are in the upper echelons. Yeah, they... They decide who's going to jail. Sure. And Hampton County has a long time reputation for being a really bad place to get sued.

The county almost always sides with the plaintiff and awards extraordinarily high damages. And that makes the Murdoch family and their law firm P-M-P-E-D P-M-P-M-P-E-D? Yep, that's the name of their law firm. P-M-P-P-E-D. Yeah, pimp my lawsuit.

Great. That pimped. Pimped. Like a license plate for pimped is the name of your fucking... And no one comments on it. And it wasn't until I wrote it down and that I was like, hold on. Pimp. Pimped, yeah.

Pimped. Obviously, like, it's just, it's a series of surnames of which Murdoch is one. But, yeah, calling your P-M-P-E-D. Not great, not great. But this practice of awarding extraordinary high damages did make PMPED the law firm extremely powerful and very rich. And you better believe that the Murdox have their diamond-encrusted tentacles in basically every office and in every orifice of every official in Hampton County,

especially the sheriff's office. Which is handy when you want to do crime. Yes, when you want to be a criminal, Yes. Having a diamond-encrusted chokehold on the local sheriff's office is very helpful. Yes. So I believe I have this correct. Sheriffs are county by county.

But yes, the sheriff's office might as well be called the Murdoch office. Got it. And that sort of connection between the Murdox and the Sheriff's Office is possibly why. Even though none of the surviving boat kids said anything to contradict. Anthony's statement that Paul had been the one driving, reports later stated that there was confusion over who had been driving the boat. And later reports even stated that it was Connor who had been at the helm. Even though literally no one on the scene said that ever, and it was Paul Murdoch's boat, etc, etc. And that's all on audio.

Like this is not speculation. Yeah. And it's not like bad notes were taken at the scene. scene or that the notes vanished. It's like they have proof that what the people at the scene said that Paul Murdoch was the one driving. And then they're just like, oh, no one seemed to know who was driving. Oh, actually, it was Connor who was driving. So falsification of evidence by lots of people already. Tick one. The Murdoch dynasty looming large is probably also why, although he was so aggressive toward paramedics that he had to be strapped down, Paul Murdoch

was not breathalized at the scene of the corner. crash. I mean, I feel like the breathalyzer would have just broken. Yeah, it just exploded into alcohol-drenched flames. And it's just like, the idea that they would turn up at this scene, he is so clearly intoxicated, he's timmying all over the place, and they don't breathalize him. I mean... They try and breathalize Connor and he refuses. Yeah, a smart boy. Yeah, he's got fucking broken jaw as well. Yeah, right. I can't... I can't do it. Paul Murdoch wasn't even treated as a suspect, even though it was his boat. He was taken off to hospital with the other four.

And just to remind everybody, this is happening in 2019, not 209. I don't know. The year 209. The year of our boat. I'm so hung over and tired. But yeah, you get what I mean. It's like 2019 and this level of corruption is just like rampant. Once Paul got to hospital,

his behaviour was so erratic that doctors and nurses thought that he might have a brain injury. No, it's just Timmy. Just Timmy. Just Timmy. I wonder how drunk I would have to be for people to think I had a brain injury. Oh, she's brain injury drunk. Anyway.

So his blood's got taken because they're worried he's going to have some sort of stroke, right? And Paul Murdoch was found to be 3.5 times over the legal driving alcohol limit. That's brain injury drunk. Wow. But had that reading never been taken, no one would ever have been able to charge Paul with driving under the influence because there would have been no evidence.

My God. Even still, even though they have that 3.5 reading, it took a whole two months before Paul Murdoch was charged with three counts of boating under the influence. A B-U-I. The state may have had the blood alcohol reading, but they didn't have much else to make. a case against Paul Murdoch, because funnily enough, his wallet, phone, and the clothes that he'd

been wearing on the night that beautiful, intelligent and just 19-year-old Mallory Beach died, had all vanished without a trace. Funny that. Hmm, yes. Seems odd, especially when there were so many officers at the scene of the crash. And yet more sceptical scenes played out at the hospital that night when Paul's dad, Ehrlich Murdoch, came out of the woodwork. So Ehrlich was a lawyer.

But he was just not quite as important as his dad, Randolph, who also made an appearance at the hospital. Randolph is the big daddy, right? I'm scared of him just reading his name. You'll be even more scared when you know what his real name is. Randolph, Murdoch, the third. So he was a solicitor, right? But he's old now. He's old as shit.

So his daddy and his granddaddy were all solicitors, right? So that's... He's like Evil Atticus. Yes. Yes, exactly that. And he's the one with the big swinging dick, right? So Ehrlich, I get the feeling, is a bit of a disappointment. Oh, no.

But also, Ehrlich has a brother called Randy, who I would assume is Randolph the 4th. But he doesn't go on to be solicitor. They pick someone else. So there is some sort of succession bullshit going on. Anyway, we're not going to spend too much time on that because we have not the time to do it. But yeah, you need, Randolph is very old, but also very important. Yes. Set the scene.

They're at the hospital. And you've got Paul's dad, Ehrlich, basically. wandering from room to room, trying to talk to the kids who have all been involved in the crash, especially Paul's girlfriend, which does look quite a lot like he was there telling them what to say. A security guard even overheard Ehrlich on the phone saying, quote, she's gone, don't worry about her. One can only assume that he was talking about poor dead Mallory Beach. So the Big Daddy, former solicitor Randolph Murdoch III, spent most of his time. time at the hospital, telling his moronic grandson, Paul slash Timmy, to keep his stupid mouth shut.

You know who he reminds me of? You know, in the dropout the TV series, he reminds me of the like war general that Elizabeth Holmes had on her board. Okay. It's very that like, sure, sure, sure, very powerful. Maddox. Mad Maddox or whatever his name is. Just very, very calm, but like, like words that come like a knife. Sure, got it. But anyway, back to this. Randolph's there threatening Paul and Ehrlich is there threatening the kids. And in May 2019, Paul was actually charged. But unusually, he wasn't jailed. He had no mugshot taken and he was never even handcuffed.

He was also never ordered to wear an alcohol monitor. All of these things in a DUI case in South Carolina, we've been led to believe, are quite unusual. Like, those things would happen so it's unusual that they're not happening here. And Paul would never get his day in court for drunk driving either because just one year and 11 months later, Paul Murdoch would be dead. Dundra-da-da-d-da-d-d-thunderclap.

But before we get to Paul Murdoch's demise, we have a lot more mystery Murdoch meters to cover. The death of Mallory Beach is not the only death that has been associated with the Murdoch family in recent years. There are quite a few more. The next one that we're going to cover is the death of 19-year-old Stephen Smith in 2015, so that's four years before the boating accident. The Murdoch connections to the death of Mallory Beach and Stephen Smith

were brought to the attention of superstar journalists like Mandy Matney due to the widespread use of the hashtag, Justice for Mallory and Stephen. And Mandy's like, I know who Mallory is, but who's Stephen? I'm going to tell you who Stephen Smith is. He was a nursing student, with aspirations to move abroad and help. those in need.

And he was found dead in the middle of the road in Hampton County on the 8th of July 2015. Stephen's head was totally misshapen from some kind of blunt force trauma. There was a 7-inch gash in the side of his forehead, but there were very few injuries to the rest of his body, spare a few scratches, a dislocated shoulder and grey's knuckles.

On the day Stephen died, a passer-by made a 911 call, saying there was a kid lying in the middle of the road. Stephen was fully clothed and still had his shoes on when the authorities found him. His death was initially classified as a homicide, but remained in the hands of the Highway Patrol rather than the Sheriff's Department. Do Highway Patrol deal with homicides now? No. Yeah.

So the Highway Patrol obviously don't investigate that my question was rhetorical, keep up. All they do is recreate. accidents. Not saying that's not important, but it's not a murder investigation. They're not the sheriff's department. Nah. So by the time Stephen made it to a forensic pathologist, who in the state of South Carolina have the final say on stuff like this, it was decided that Stephen had not been killed with a gun or a bat. Rather, he had been hit by the wing mirror of a truck

whilst walking along the road and therefore his death was not a homicide, it was a hit and run. which you can probably tell from the tone of Ceru's voice, we don't believe for several reasons. One, there were no tire marks on the road. Two, there was no vehicular debris at the scene. Three, Stephen's shoes were still on. One of the most common things that happens when you're hit by a truck is that your shoes come off.

It's like a force and friction thing. Wow, that's really interesting. I didn't know that. But the first two, yeah, like how was there nothing? If he hit a wing mirror that hard, where the fuck is the wing mirror? Yeah. And also, presumably if somebody hit him, they then swerved or did something or tried to break after they felt the impact,

even if they didn't see him before. And if there were no skid marks, no tire marks, that didn't happen. Absolutely. Four, this is the real kicker for me. There were no car paint fragments found on Stephen's clothes until a bag of his clothes were left unattended in the funeral home where he was laid to rest. Fuck off.

It's like also there would have been paint fragments in the wound as well. Surely, surely, if you got hit by fucking wing mirror, there's going to be something of that wing mirror in your wound. And these, I'm not talking about like paint chips. I'm talking like microscopic paint flex are not there. Equally, there was no chain of custody recorded with Stephen's phone. So God knows where that ended up. I mean, it probably ended up with the gunshot residue report that was never heard of again. And also the rape kit that was performed on Stephen's body that has also mysteriously disappeared and never resurfaced.

Stephen's family have always insisted that he never would have walked along a rural road at night alone. And his autopsy showed that he was completely sober. Stephen was buried on the 11th of July 2015. His family left his casket open, so all the attendees were confronted with what had been done to their boy. It has always been Stephen's family's firm belief that he was murdered for being openly gay. And just days after Stephen died, there were rumours reported to the Highway Patrol, who again are not supposed to be investigating homicides.

But these rumours were that the Murdoch brothers, Paul and Buster, were behind the death of Stephen Smith. Why? Because Buster had been intimately linked with Stephen. We have audio recordings of these conversations, but not a sniff of the Murdoch name made it into the official report. court notes on Stephen's death. Investigators called Buster a grand total of once.

He didn't pick up and his voicemail was full, so they left no message and never called again. And pretty quickly, the case went cold, which is what will happen when you ignore tips. Stephen's mother, Sandy, made an appeal to the FBI for help. But since Stephen's death was not federal in nature, they didn't really do anything. They can't, apparently.

So unless they're invited in. Yes, they have to be. be invited in. Unless it happens on federal property or like there's very specific or cross country. Yes. Right. Sorry, cross state lines to commit a felony. And even then, like often the actual crime will take precedence over the fact that they're crossing lines. But yes, from watching my many years of criminal minds, I know they have to be called it. The good news is, in June 2022, so just last year, SLED, who are essentially the South Carolina Super Police, reopened the investigation into Stephen's death based on evidence that we will go through later on.

But first, we have another mystery to get through before we get to the much less mysterious and just plain baffling section of today's episode. But did you hear about the housekeeper? An ominous sentence that flew around Hampton County in the wake of Mallory Beach's death. Oh yeah, the Murdox have even more blood on their hands. and this one predates the boat crash that killed Mallory Beach. Gloria Satterfield was the Murdoch's housekeeper for two decades. She is good as raised Paul and Buster, and she had two boys of her own as well.

And then one day, in February 2018, the 57-year-old Gloria fell down the stairs at a Murdoch property and died a few weeks later. It is believed, not by me, but by some, that dogs belonging to the Murdoch family tripped her, and then Gloria tumbled. to her eventual death. She's 57.

Not 87. Yeah, right. However, no documentation pertaining to the exact cause of her fall can be found anywhere. We don't know who called 911. We don't even know who took her to hospital. All we know was that she was in intensive care with a traumatic brain injury for weeks before she died.

But according to her autopsy, she died of natural causes. Is a brain trauma from falling down the stairs a natural cause. No. That's bonkers to me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I have misunderstood that, but it just seems odd.

I mean, it's very similar to the staircase situation, which I'm not going to spoil here. Because I actually didn't know that case very well. Like, we don't actually tend to often know the really big cases in that much detail until we cover them. I always find. But in that, there is an accusation of, like, somebody who I won't say who, it's not Kathleen, falling down some stairs. but she fell because a brain aneurysm happened. So they're like, oh my God, the brain aneurysm happens.

And then that's what causes her to fall. And so she actually dies of natural causes because that's what would have killed her anyway. So maybe they're saying something like that, but that's a fucking stretch. So we also know that the Murdoch boys didn't visit Gloria in hospital. And the richest family in Hampton County, for whom she had been a maid for 20 years, didn't even pay for this woman's funeral. That is outrageous. Especially, she died in your fucking house.

So naturally, this led to a lot of speculation about the real cause of Gloria's death. At Gloria's funeral, Alex Murdoch approached her sons and basically said the following. I'm so sorry for your loss, your mum died on my property, and you should absolutely receive compensation. I can make that happen for you.

Sue me, get your money, and I happen to know just the guy to help you. But you obviously can't tell anyone I told you to do this because I could get in a lot of trouble. So Gloria's boys, stricken with grief and knowing no better, went to one of the Murdoch's henchmen attorneys to represent them. And they filed what they believe to be a $500,000 wrongful death lawsuit against the Murdoch family.

Enoch Murdoch does a lot of fucked up stuff. This makes me sick. He orchestrates this whole thing. In reality, the lawsuit wasn't worth $500,000. It was worth millions. And Ehrlich Murdoch settled it and threw a web of false companies, lined pockets, greased palms

and secret whisperings between good old boys, Gloria's sons have not seen a penny of that settlement. We don't know how he did it exactly because all of the records of the suit have mysteriously disappeared. A little Easter egg of some good news that I'm speckling throughout this episode. This particular shafting did catch up with Ehrlich Murdoch. He was arrested on two felony fraud charges in relation to Gloria Satterfield.

And he was arrested for them in Orange County, Florida, where he was allegedly in rehab for a $50,000 a week opioid addiction. I'm trying to think of the OC sounds. That is it. I was like, why are you doing Phantom Planet? That is it? Always on the run. I can't remember the words.

Driving in the sun. Driving down the 101. California. Here we go. California. There we go. We will be driving down the 101 in just a few weeks. Let's keep going.

They catch up with him in Florida. Ellick is charged with obtaining property under false pretenses and misappropriating settlement funds. It is our. He understood that through his tangled financial web, he received $3.5 million in relation to the wrongful death of Gloria Satterfield. So Ehrlich was denied Bond for the first time in Murdoch history and sent for a psychiatric evaluation, which is bad news first for sure. Particularly for Ehrlich, I don't love any of them. I mean, but there's something specific about him at Paul. I think him and Paul are very similar. Bust is a bit of an outlier. So eventually, Elex signed a confession, admitting that he was a little.

had stolen $4.3 million from Gloria's family, which meant that eventually he would have to reveal his financial situation. More extremely bad news. That's what he's terrified of because as soon as he gets to any sort of hearing about this glorious Atterfield case, he is going to have to expose all of his finances, which basically will bring down his entire family. Oh, absolutely. And that's the thing, isn't it? It's just like a little murder here and there, doesn't matter. you cannot let the family secrets about the money and the way we do business get out. Exactly. Because that's how they'll fucking get you.

That's how they'll get you all. So Slead agreed to exhume Gloria's body. And to be honest, the news just kept getting worse and worse for the Murdox. Especially if you happen to be Paul and or Maggie Murdoch, who is of course his mum. Because on the 7th of June 2021, Maggie and Paul were found shableness. shot dead on the family's 1700-acre hunting estate called Mosul. Mosel. Mosel.

So no, it's not the capital of ISIS. It's Moselle. It's very like bucket bouquet. Your hunting estate is called Mosell? It's Moselle. Bucket up. So with his wife and son founded in Moselle, Elyke Murdoch was the one to call an emergency scene.

services and he placed this call at 10.7 p.m. He told the operator that he had been out and returned home after visiting his elderly mother, how very wholesome, to find his wife and youngest son murdered out in the open air by the dog kennels on Moselle. 22-year-old Paul Murdoch had been shot twice with a blackout rifle and his mother Maggie 52 had been shot with a semi-automatic shotgun. Now this crime scene was an absolute mess. Both Paul and Maggie had been shot several times. There was nothing clean about it. And this was certainly not the work of a professional.

Still though, SLED took over the crime scene pretty quickly, as it was very obvious that it was way beyond what the sheriff's department were equipped to handle. And also, everyone knew that the Murdoch family wore the Hampton County Sheriff's Department like a sock puppet. Naturally, as the one who found the bodies and also the spouse slash parent, Elic Murdoch was at the very front of the person of interest queue. He was not impressed with this. He told Sled that he had an ironclad alibi. He said he had been visiting his dying father,

and then he went to visit his mother who was suffering with late-stage dementia, and he just so happened to have done both of those things at the time that the murders took place. and the visit to the mother was verified by her caregiver. But wouldn't the caregiver of Mummy Murdoch be exactly the kind of person who would be scared to rat out a Murdoch because her literal livelihood depended on it? Yeah, that kind of feels like a connection that should be made.

And we will find out later on that Ehrlich Murdoch is absolutely no stranger to intimidating witnesses. It was determined at autopsy that Maggie and Paul had both been killed between nine and nine-thirty. There were two weapons involved, like we said. But that doesn't necessarily mean two shooters. Both firearms were identified to belong to the Murdoch family. But again, Moselle is a literal hunting lodge.

It's the hunting estate for this family. There were guns everywhere. There was even a gun room. So by the same token, the guns belonging to the family didn't mean that a Murdoch must have shot them. Anyone who knew the property could have got hold of them. I don't think they did, but let's not get sidetracked here yet. Let's stick with Ehrlich for now.

What motive could he possibly have had for killing his son and his wife? Well, we don't really have much more than rumour at the moment. The word on the country lane was that Maggie and Ehrlich's marriage was on the rocks. Some people seem to think that Maggie had actually been to see a divorce lawyer, although we haven't been able to find any conclusive evidence that that actually happened. But I also think just because someone hasn't physically gone to see a divorce lawyer doesn't mean that they're not thinking about divorce, you know. Anyway, there was quite a lot of speculation that Maggie wasn't particularly happy in her marriage, but she loved being a Murdoch. The next piece of evidence, I want to get your thoughts on.

So, there is, people make the point that the day before Maggie died, she's selling shoes on Poshmark for $28. And they're like, why would she be doing that? She must be, you know, trying to collect as much money as she can so she can run off into the sunset. Bullshit, that's what rich people do. They're tight as fuck. Oh, yeah. Like, people don't stay rich by frittering their money away.

No. You don't get wealthy by frittering your money away. You can be rich and fritter your money away because you can lose rich like fucking with a solid opioid addiction. Wealthy is you don't fuck your money away. No, exactly. So I think that is such a classic, like rich old lady thing to be doing. She probably doesn't buy branded orange juice. Do you know what I mean?

It's like that kind of rich. For sure. So I don't put too much stock in the poshmark thing. But anyway, it does seem like L. and Maggie were living at different properties at the time of the double homicide. But I suspect that's actually a lot more to do with the fact that she was renovating one of their properties at the time. And I feel like rich people sleep in separate bedrooms, you know? Like I think like it's just rich people stuff, you know.

Let's say that Ehrlich did want to get rid of his wife to stop her from divorcing him. Why would he kill Paul too? That's a very good question. I don't know the answer to it. Why would you kill your progeny because your wife is threatening to leave? And they're not children. They're not children. It's not like he does it in a, you know, fuck you.

You were trying to take my child away from me as well. I'm going to kill you and I'm going to kill him because, you know, if I can't have him, whatever. Or kill him first to punish her. He's an adult. It doesn't really fit that pattern. No, exactly. And also, Buster was nowhere near Moselle that night. So this isn't a family annihilation.

Sure. It's specific and it's targeted. Yeah. It was widely known that Paul had learned absolutely nothing from the boat crash and was just as entitled and obnoxious as he had always been. So maybe Ella could just have enough of him. And maybe he thought he could just get away with it. Yeah.

Interestingly, Maggie did not have a life insurance policy. Very unusual for a rich woman. She did have an estate, the tune of about five million. And it's all tied up in trusts and bonds and blah, blah, blah. Sure. Naturally, life insurance policies don't pay out if you murder your wife. No, they don't. Famously, they don't. But estates.

Estates can be fucked with a lot more. And Ehrlich knew that. Look at what he did to Gloria Satterfield. Remember that? It's going to come back. Okay. But let's entertain for the briefest of moments. What motives any outsiders from the Murdoch clan may have had for killing Maggie and Paul? Apart from the fact that literally everyone hated the Murdox.

Everyone hates them, but everyone's terrified of them too. Yeah, you don't just be like, I hate that incredibly powerful family. I'm going to try break into their hunting estate and murder the matriarch and one of the sons. One group of people, under suspicion, were Mallory Beach's family. They had filed a civil suit going after the shop, which is Parkers that we told you about at the start of the episode. That's a shop that sold Paul Murdoch, the White Claws, etc. and an Elek Murdoch specifically for normalising underage drinking in his family. Yeah, the beaches, they can't get what they want.

So what they're trying to do is settle the case by going after Parker's and being like, he had fake ID, he had his mum's credit card, he did the third party gesture and you didn't stop him. And then also it's very widely accepted that the Murdoch boys were drinking from like 14. It was encouraged by the family, blah, blah. So that's why they're suing both Ehrlich and Parker's at the same time. So you could say maybe the Beechers wanted to get back at Eleg, kill one of his kids as revenge, and maybe Maggie the mum just got in the way.

Paul did claim that he had received threats since the crash. But, props not, because every single one of Mallory Beach's family cooperated totally with the police, even submitting DNA samples in the wake of the Moselle murders, without question. So that one doesn't really work for us. Yeah, I don't think Mallory Beach's family

anywhere anywhere fucking near it. I don't think they would have had the nerve to do that. Like, it's terrifying. And people who insinuate that the beaches might be behind it or the Satterfields or something. The argument that is made, which is very weak one, in my opinion, is it like, oh, they hired a hit man to take them out. With what money, firstly? And also it doesn't look like a hit at all. Exactly.

So that one doesn't work. Actually, quite a few things don't work for us, or maybe just don't quite sit right. firstly there are no initial requests from the Murdoch family to the public for information for weeks after Paula Maggi died until eventually a couple of other Murdox, notably not Ellick, went on Good Morning America and offered a $100,000 reward for any information that led to an arrest in connection to the double homicide. Fine, you might be thinking. What is not fine is that this reward money had a time limit. All tips had to be submitted before. the 30th of September 2021.

To be in with a chance of winning that tax-free cash. Yeah, exactly. I've never seen that before. It's crazy. I mean, you know, it's like I love my family, but only within this time window. Only until the 30th of September and then I'm out of here, baby. But it actually turned out that Ehrlich himself could have used that 100K. In the midst of the Gloria Satterfield investigation and the Mallory Beach suit, all of his assets were frozen. On top of that, his own brother sued him for embezzling money from their family law firm, which if you need reminding is called P-M-P-E-D.

So Ehrlich Murdoch, murderer or not, was running out of options. Eventually, he was going to have to untangle the financial web he had spun in the cold light of day and under the eyes of the law, probably in a different county where he would be in real trouble. He really, really, really did not want to do that. That is his house of cards down, like that is gay. And it's double game over because just three days after Paul and Maggie was shot dead, the Logan Roy of our piece, Randolph Murdoch III, died. So Daddy wasn't around to protect

Ehrlich anymore. He was on his own. The House of Cards is coming down. So this led investigation into the Murdoch murders continued and led to, although we don't know yet why, a renewed investigation into the death of Stephen's Smith, that would start from the total beginning. Literally all we know is that SLED have announced that they have come across evidence in the investigation of the double homicide that has led them to believe it is worth reopening the death of Stephen Smith, which is, that's huge. Yes, absolutely.

But things are about to go from somewhat affirming to utterly batch it. Because on the 4th of September 2021, Elyke Murdoch called 911, claiming the he too had been shot. At 134 he called emergency services and said that he had pulled over to change a flat tire on his car on a rural road seven miles from Moselle. He was driving to his hunting lodge from Charleston. Red flag number one, the road he was on was not a direct route from Charleston to Moselle. But anyway, Ehrlich told the 911 operator that a man had pulled up behind him as he was changing his tyre, shot him in the head and then driven off. He also gave a description of the man who had shot him.

He said that he was white, he had really short hair, and he was much younger than Ehrlich himself. This is all delivered in a very calm manner for a man who had been shot in the head. And again, you can go listen to the 911 calls on Mandy's podcast. What Elyke Murdoch didn't know was that the emergency services were simultaneously on the phone with a couple who had just driven past him on the rural road.

This couple told the operator that they'd just driven past a man who was waving his arms and coven in blood. They wanted to ring it in just in case, but they hadn't stopped because they thought the whole situation smelled like a setup. And the operator told the couple that she didn't blame them, red flag number two. Meanwhile, on the other line,

Ehrlich Murdoch told his operator that some people showed up in a white Nissan, and they were going to drive him to a hospital in Charleston. But he also asked her to send an ambulance. The white Nissan probably never existed. Ehrlich Murdoch was airlifted by a medical helicopter to a different hospital in Savannah, Georgia. Red flag number three, because, get this, the helicopter was chartered before Ehrlich Murdoch called 911. Firstly, by the fuck who?

Secondly, why wouldn't he tell the operator that helicopter was coming for him? and three, why would he tell the operator that he was headed to a hospital in Charleston when he was going to a different state? It's not far, I'll give him that, but like they're in opposite directions. I mean, that is probably one of the most confusing parts of this story, this incident on the roadside. And it all went from weird to bonkers when 13 days later, Elyke Murdoch appeared at a bond hearing without a single scratch on him. Even a superficial head wound from having been shot in the head would have left behind something.

But after not even two weeks, he's there without a scratch. Fucking how, Alec. It makes zero sense. So here is another much more likely version of events. An old client of Elek Murdoch called Eddie Smith either happened across Ehrlich on the side of the road or he was sent to find him by someone else, or possibly by Ehrlich himself. Eddie Smith is also the exact opposite of the man that Ehrlich describes on the phone. Sure, yeah, because Eddie was a logger.

He had also injured his lower back, which left him unable to log. So he did odd jobs, including for the Murdox, and he was actually on his way to a Murdoch property when he came across Ehrlich on the side of the road. And Eddie told Sled that Ehrlich was in an incredibly agitated. state when he found him. And he'd asked Eddie to shoot him in the head. Eddie refused.

So Elyke threatened to shoot himself. So a struggle ensued in which the gun was fired. So they're like tussling with it when he's telling him to shoot him and Eddie's like, no, the gun goes off and then Eddie left. Sure that Ehrlich was not hurt. And as he put it, if I had wanted to shoot Ehrlich, he wouldn't have had a superficial head injury. He would have been dead.

Exactly. Yeah. The Murdoch camp had their own story. That Ehrlich was a drug addict and that he had a $50,000 a week drug problem and that the loss of his father, his wife, his son and all of this legal and money trouble he was going through had all pushed him over the edge. So the Murdoch camp say that Ehrlich hired Eddie Smith to kill him so that he could escape at all and leave his son Buster a decent trust fund behind. But that wouldn't happen if he killed himself. Someone else has to kill him, right? That's their argument. There was also a bit of a feeble attempt to make it look like drug traffickers were after Ehrlich because he owed the money and also Moselle appeared to have been purchased from a drug trafficker.

But they're literally just like, look over there, do you know what I mean? And it's a distraction. It doesn't last very long. Also, if I was owed money by Ehrlich Murdoch and I knew his family do have money, maybe not liquid, but they've got assets. I wouldn't fucking kill him. I would take him hostage and I would torture him. him until I called money.

Yeah, I don't know how much Eddie Smith knew. I don't know if he really did just drive past him. I don't know if he was sent there. Because he's on the way to a Murdoch property, right? So, like, I don't know if they're like, oh, come this specific way. And then you'll see him on the... I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

But I don't think Eddie Smith is a hitman. It did seem pretty obvious that Eddie Smith was not a hitman when the knife found at the scene that was used to slash Alex tires turned out to belong to him. And also, when Sled discubes... that ELEC's car didn't have a spare tire in it in the first place. And all the while, Ehrlich is racking up more fraud charges from a plethora of different cases by the day. So the shooting story is a load of nonsense,

and clearly SLED were pretty certain of that too. By the time it happened, ELEC already had 84 criminal charges and 11 lawsuits to worry about. I think that would probably give me a 50K a week drug addiction. I mean, quite. But on the 14th of July 22, the grand jury had a few more problems to throw onto Elek Murdoch's worry pile. They indicted him for the murder of his wife and son, 13 months after they died. Naturally, never one to go down without a fight, Murdoch pleaded not guilty.

Now before we get onto the trial, which I know you're all gagging to get to, we have to remind ourselves of the lesser disgust Murdoch. Where the fuck is Buster in all of this? An excellent question, and I'm going to try and answer it. He's kind of everywhere and nowhere. He's like the egg man. He is, you know, inextricably involved because if his dad goes down, he's the last one left.

So all of the civil suits against his father will become his problem because he inherits the estate, right? But how is he going to settle any of these lawsuits when his dad has allegedly spent all of his embezzled millions on opioids? So Buster, even though he was nowhere near Moseau on the night his brother and his mom died, is left holding the baby if the baby was made of debt and ruined. And drug addiction. Exactly. I, as I said, not a fan of any Murdoch.

Buster doesn't seem to be a stand-up guy. He was extremely happy to be a Murdoch. He did throw his weight around. He actually tended to wear a monogrammed cumberbund, for example, which makes me want to vomit. But it does seem, from what I have gathered, but he was. that Buster wasn't great, but he wasn't quite as obnoxious as Paul was. And what else is interesting is remember Maggie's lack of life insurance? Well, she had named Elek as the executor of her estate.

Nothing weird about that. That's what most people do, leave everything to their partner. But what is weird? Is that Elek Murdoch renounced his rights to Maggie's estate? Why would you do that? Exactly. Could this have been in an attempt to make himself look less guilty? After all, your wife turns up dead, suddenly you inherit all of her money.

Maybe if you say, I don't want that, I'm going to renounce all of that. Maybe it makes you look less like you have a motive. Whether that will do him any good or not in this trial remains to be seen, because obviously the trial is still ongoing. We are like not anywhere near the end of it by the looks of things. Because as we speak, 64-year-old Elek Murdoch is still very much standing trial for the murders of his wife and son. We are not going to give you a play-by-play of the trial. That's Mandy Matney's job.

We also can't give you a resolution for this story because the trial is unfolding right now and it could continue to unfold for months to come. What we're going to give you is a very brief rundown of the cases presented by the prosecution and the case for the defence. This is the timeline that the prosecution give of the night that Maggie and Paul died.

Maggie didn't really want to be at Mosel that night, but Ehrlich asked her to go, so she went and she got there at about 8.15pm. Paul was already there. Buster, as we know, was out of town. Maggie and Paul had dinner together, and that's backed up by the fact that they were both found to have similar stomach contents at autopsy. And then we know that at half past eight, Maggie and Paul headed down to the dog kennels, which are about a quarter mile from the main house. It's a 45 second drive, and the dog kennels are very visible from the main house. and we know that they were there because of Paul's mobile phone activity.

Once at the kennels, Paul was looking at one of the dogs that actually belonged to a friend of his, and he thought the dog was wagging funny, so he took a video of the dog on his phone to send to his owner. And in the background of that video, Maggie and Ehrlich can be heard speaking to each other. Which is odd, considering that Ehrlich told police that he had not been down to the dog kennels that night at all. And it's more odd when you're not. learn that just three minutes after that dog video was taken, Paul stopped interacting with his phone. Forever. It was never unlocked again, and neither was his mum's.

So Alex's phone tells tales on him too. There is absolutely no activity on his phone between 809 and 902. And we know from autopsy that Maggie and Paul died between 9 and 930. At 904, Ellick calls Maggie's phone. There's no answer. Funny that, she's dead. Mm-hmm. Then he calls his dad, Randolph, no answer.

At 906, he called Maggie again. Then he texted her, saying that he was going to go check on his mum. How very convenient. But strangely, he chose not to drive past the dog kennels on his way out of the estate. Because you see, Moselle has two driveways, one that goes past the kennels, which is the one that everyone uses, and it's like where the postbox is, etc. But Ehrlich didn't take that one that night.

If he couldn't get hold of his wife, why wouldn't he check the kennels on his way out? Like you can see it from the house. He would have been able to see if they were down there and if he's trying to get hold of her, you would just drive that way out. Even if you couldn't see them, you would just check on your way past, wouldn't you?

And it's also the route that everybody always takes out of the estate. Yeah, it's like it's unusual to take the other drive. Yeah. And although Ehrlich was wearing totally clean clothes, a white t-shirt to be precise, when the police showed up, there was gunshot residue on his car seatbelt, and Maggie's blood was found on the steering wheel. Apparently a lot of people forget about seatbelts, and they forget to clean them. You would. And his housekeeper had already told the court that Ehrlich was wearing a different t-shirt when he left in the morning,

and that she had felt pressured by him to say differently. So to say that he was wearing the white shirt that he was found in by the police. And interestingly, there was no DNA on him from Maggie or Paul, even though he had insisted that he had turned Paul over and checked if both of them were breathing. This is the thing. Sometimes the absence of evidence looks really, really suspicious. Like when your own wife's DNA is not anywhere on you. Yeah, exactly.

Additionally, neither Maggie nor Paul had any defensive wounds. and they were shot at from extremely close range, indicating that they had no idea that they were under threat. Murdoch's defence team, unsurprisingly, were two things, old and expensive. It's very boys' club. Basically their argument is that Ellick could not have got from the main house down to the dog kennels, back up to the house, cleaned all the blood off him and got changed in the 10 minutes that his phone was inactive.

Which, of course he could. It's a 45 second drive. Yeah. and the fact that there is gunshot residue on the seatbelt shows that he probably did drive back from the kennels to the main house. And also the other thing about it seeming like it was somebody they knew is they're in the middle of an estate, right? They're at the dog kennels.

There's no running. Their bodies aren't found like in two different places because there's been a chase. There's been like a pursuit by this hitman who has been hired by somebody who doesn't like the Murdoch family. It's like we're all down at the dog kennels. bang, bang, it's like they, like you said, they never saw it coming because they were with somebody that they knew. I agree. But the defence, granted, they don't have too much to go on and they don't really seem to make that much sense.

But they argued that Slead had no idea what was going on with the case. They couldn't solve it. So they decided to pit it all on ELEC, even though they have no evidence and no motive, which like side-eye, they have both of those things. Basically, they're like, well, it took 13 months to arrest him, so they can't have had that much evidence. which like that's just not how that works. The fact that they arrested a Murdoch within 13 months of a murder says that they probably have a shitload of evidence. And also they're reopening the Stephen Smith case

because of other evidence they've discovered. How are you going to say they have no evidence? And as for motive, you don't have to show motive. The prosecution does not have to show motive at court. And also, murdering your spouse, like, I'm not trying to sound like someone's mum on Facebook. That's motive enough because that's who kills you. Exactly.

So by the time you hear this, the trial of Ehrlich Murdoch will be in its sixth week. And God knows what will have happened in the time that we record this and the time it releases. At the moment, we know that Buster has taken the stand and that the prosecution rests. We have absolutely no idea what will happen next. But we do know that this is not the end. And that is a big deal. Which is Mandy Matney sign off. She does sound like a superhero comic journalist.

I'm Mandy Matney with Fitznews. Here to tell you about the Johnny Murders. Johnny Murder Murders. And on the Murdoch case because all three of them are pending trials or currently in trial. So let's see. So have fun. Do nice things. Yeah.

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