RedHanded - Under The Duvet: The 2020 Round-Up

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

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Welcome to our 2020 roundup. And don't worry, it's not depressing. What we've done is we've picked out all of the best bits of under the duvet which is our after show party that we host over on our patreon page we've gone through all of it every single minute and we've picked out some of the best bits for you so you can decide whether it's something you'd like a little bit more of. Hello, everyone. Hello. Welcome.

Welcome to the depression station, because it's happened. Oh, yes. The lockening is here. Thursday, we go back into lockdown. All stops are the depression station. The terminus is depression, as it always is. The press conference on, when was it? Saturday night? That was something.

I waited around from four o'clock. And then when did it happen? Like, I don't even know, like 8pm or some nonsense. They were like, the time to act is now. So we're going to go into lockdown on Thursday, guys. So if anyone needs to get a haircut or you want to go see somebody, you want to squeeze in a quick shag, go do it now because we're going into lockdown on Thursday although what is this this is so weird I have actually booked a haircut but no shagging we're still not allowed sleepovers well I suppose

you are in tier one I mean I don't know I think now it's like there's no more tears and then we're just all in lockdown no more tears except still quite a lot of tears. The different kind. Absolutely. No more tears except the ones falling profusely from your eyes. That's it. So yeah, it was something. I don't know. And then I watched like the Sunday interviews and they're all just like, just going out there and further confirming how much they're just like not revealing to us slash how much they don't actually know what's going on.

And I don't know. I just feel like who knows when this is going to end now this year. Oh, it's not. This is life now. Yep, this is it. And then did you see Nigel Farage is rebranding the Brexit party as the anti-lockdown party? I've literally written it in my notes.

It's called Reform UK now. What was it called before? Just the Brexit party? The Brexit party. Yeah, completely imaginative. Oh, fuck's sake. Fuck fuck off you absolute twat and then there was that stuff that he was posting where it was like there was that little video but i couldn't bring myself to watch it so i just read what like the quotes that were written and it was like currently there is no political opposition to this lockdown

business so we're going to be doing it and i was like oh fucking hell no not you anybody but you and it's like the irony of him calling for like more freedom of movement he's just doing it to be fucking contrary of course he is he's such a dickhead i mean like does he also realize that there is a no deal brexit that's currently happening as well got nothing to say about that former brexit party no just to now focus on being Reform UK? Oh my god. He's just a contrarian, that's all it is. He's just like, oh well, I've got to find something else to share. Did you see he was sharing

a platform with Trump? He flew to America and went on the campaign trail with Trump and called him like the bravest man in politics or something. I saw, I saw, that was something. Yeah, I don't know if you guys don't know what we're talking about. There's just been so much weird fucking news. Did you see that nurse lucy letby yep what the fuck i like didn't ever know about this case basically if you guys don't

know if you haven't been um following this case it's a 30 year old nurse so like the same age as us yes i'm gonna pretend i'm 30 and not 31 called lucyby, who worked at the Countess of Chester Hospital here in England. And she apparently was arrested in 2018, so two years ago, then released on bail, then re-arrested in 2019. And both those times, it was like on suspicion of having killed at least eight to 18 babies. And now, basically, she stood trial in in November so like three days ago from when we're recording this so the 13th of November I believe was her trial and it looks like she's been convicted of killing five baby boys and three baby girls but possibly on the attempted murder of 10 more babies that is unbelievable I know this kind of thing happens and I know this is a type of serial killer that exists.

And I know this sounds incredibly stupid and naive of me to say, but she looks so normal in all the pictures. She looks so normal. Yeah, I mean, the sort of angel of death nurse thing is not reasonably common, but it's something that I've heard of before. It's a thing. It's a thing, yeah. Whether it's babies's something that I've heard of before it's a thing it's a thing yeah like if whether it's like babies or old people or just normal people just

putting them to sleep but fucking out like when you look at pictures of her that they're like posting on um you know online she's just out hair done makeup done got a drink in her hand out with her mates she looks like any girl I went to school with and you're like fuck it blew my mind it blew my mind and I don't know I feel like I couldn't find more information than that I can't seem to find information on like how she actually did it but it seems like potentially she was working like with premature babies so I don't know the psychology of it is all very weird like what is it usually that sometimes they think they're doing these kids or these old people a favor but I feel like it's just about power like it usually is isn't it I have no idea honestly like empathizing with people killing not empathizing but like

trying to figure out why people kill babies is like it's mad it's beyond me on a Monday morning I just don't have the capacity to be honest No, I would need a bigger deep dive into that psychology because I can't really wrap my head around it. It must be power over life and death or maybe she can tell herself that these premature babies, they're going to have all sorts of problems. Obviously, that's not true. Like, they can be just fine

and, like, there's no evidence at all that these kids weren't going to be fine and she just decides to take that decision upon herself. Like, beyond that, I don't know crazy lucy yeah i mean and i haven't actually made any notes on this so it's one of my very vague stories again they found a new um organ in your mouth yes i did see this yeah two new saliva glands just hanging out the back of your nose nobody knew how'd they not know where are the face pathologists. What's happening? I don't know, man.

Crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Would you like to hear something nice that the Catholic Church has done for once? Oh, I think I know what you're going to say, but tell me about it, please. So two things. So Pope Francis is like basically the chillest pope of all time. And he has been like, fuck everyone. I think gay marriage is cool. Exactly.

Everyone can fuck everyone. Or is he saying it's only gay civil unions? What's he saying? Oh, yeah, maybe. Yeah. I can't remember. Maybe it was, like, for the first time, the Catholic Church have been like, same-sex relationships are okay in some way.

Also, he appointed the first ever black American cardinal. That's the other good thing that he did. Well, you know what, Pope Francis? Welcome to fucking 2020. Thank you. Thank you for joining the rest of us here. But thank you. And also, thank you for having that chat

with God about COVID-19. It's really done wonders. It's fixed everything. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. It's just like, it was just a really crackly line on the phone to God. Murder hornets, is that what you want? Okay, great. Okay, you've got it. You's just like, it was just a really crackly line on the phone to God.

Murder hornets, is that what you want? Okay, great. Okay, you've got it. You've got it, Frankie. I'm sending a bunch of basketball-sized nests. Basketball-sized nests. I also, like, so London's in tier two at the moment, which means you can't go inside other side people's houses,

but you can meet in a pub garden outside in a group of no more than six. And we're all awaiting tier three which is inevitable lockening and we all thought it would be half term which is this week but it hasn't happened so i'm constantly looking for new sources like any sort of indication of when it's going to happen nothing literally no new source at all is talking about the tier system anymore they're going to sneak it on us they are it's like everything logical we try to decipher and be like, I was convinced they were going to make half term two weeks

like Scotland, Wales and Ireland have done. And then they were going to use that as a circuit breakup because that makes sense. And then they were like, nah, we're going to fucking M. Night Shyamalan this whole thing. And you don't know when it's going to come

and it's going to come and there's going to be a big twist and it's maybe going to feature murder hornets. So don't know. Don't know what's going on with that either. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see um should we end on a fun note oh please which i thought this was quite fun so people really enjoyed our little uh revelation

about andrew lincoln slash andrew uh what's his name clutter clutter butch clutter batch oh yes and how he had to you know change his name in order to break into america break in to make it in you know what i mean and i was like hannah you and i are right now as of this moment trying to figure out a way in which we make it in america maybe we need new american names a la andrew lincoln what's yours um Hannah Hamilton I'm in I'm in you're in get in get in here um what's yours you can't have Saruti no no no I think I go with Susie which is what people often used to mistake my name for when I when I worked like mainly speaking to people on the phone and I'd be like hi it's Saruti and they'd be like hi Susie I'd be like you know

what I'm just gonna let you have it because this is easier so Susie I don't know I feel like it depends which crowd I'm playing to you know maybe it's Susie QAnon maybe it's Susie Apple Pie Susie Liberty it's gotta be Susie QAnon it's just gotta be Susie QAnon it's a growing market it's a growing market I'll cover that you take the Hamiltons

I'll take the QAnons so I'm Susie QAnon and you're Hannah Hamilton we're gonna nail it man we're gonna fucking nail it in their new show Sweaty Nones in the Tower a surprisingly British take for these two quintessentially American hosts. So anyway, join us then.

We need an accent coach. We should get him to infiltrate this group. What, the Malta abortion group? Yeah, and just make jokes about abortions. I think it would go down really well. Maybe with some comedy and some satire, we can change their minds. He has offered several times to moderate the facebook group no i don't want to do that ever again it's a fucking snake pit that

scares me and i want to leave yeah matt has offered several times to do like sarcastic takedowns of people in the facebook group and i thus far haven't let him do it but sometimes you just you test me guys you really do just let him off the leash I reckon let him go for it just unfriend him so no one can trace him back to you yeah we'll make him like a dummy account that's amazing oh my god yeah so that's going on in Poland one of our Polish listeners I'm so sorry I've forgotten your name but I know you're listening because I know you're a patron because you message us on patreon telling us to take a look at it and to talk about it and raise awareness of what's going on mate we stand stand behind you. Please don't be confused by my beginning stumbling over my words.

I wasn't at all conflicted about how I feel about abortion, conflicted about how to feel about hundreds of thousands of people in a pandemic, but it's only because I'm very scared of anybody coming near me. Had an anxiety dream last night that I was in a restaurant and the waitress was standing too close to me. That's what my dreams now are. Like, that's the level of mundane fear that I have. So yeah. And I thought that in a move that is obviously only stoking up the issues, the government is out there saying churches must be protected at all costs because some of the protesters have been graffitiing churches. That's what they're concerned about. Excellent. Cool. Though I did like, I read that it's farmers, miners and taxi drivers have joined the protesting women. What an interesting subset of people to have as your allies.

What a group. I love that. I was like, this is amazing. And I read this quote and I was like, who said that? That's such a good quote. It's from a miners union leader who said a state which assumes the role of ultimate arbiter of people's consciences is heading in the direction of a totalitarian state. And I was like, yes, minor union leader. I agree. And thank you for taking the time to join those women in the protests and maybe spray painting a church.

Right. Should we talk about the US election? Because this is going out on Wednesday, the day after whatever happens happens. I saw a really fucking depressing tweet that was like, there is a really good chance that on Wednesday, we could wake up to second national lockdown and Trump's second term and no amount of banana bread is going to get us through that. Oh, God. Oh, God. That's so awful. Oh, my God. I can't. When when the mayans predicted 2020 this is what they were fucking talking about i hope you all know that i hope you all know that this has been predicted

by the mayans they fucking knew i mean they were all you know getting destroyed by the spanish but they were like oh but 2020 fucking hell i don't want to be around for that but did you know that you know in Futurama the like intro to Futurama there's always like a different message

to the future people oh yeah yeah one of them says time travel to 2020 is strictly prohibited they knew Matt Groening knew as well everyone knew

everyone fucking knew everyone knew except us. Sat around in that last fucking episode of 2019 being like, 2020. Everybody still fucking tweets at us about, we know. God. It's tough.

But yeah, if you're listening to this, obviously on Wednesday slash later, we're recording this on Monday, the 2nd of November. We don't know what's happening. Not in Scotland. Nicola Sturgeon won't have it. I will be absolutely flabbergasted if after all this is over Scotland don't fucking make a run for it. Redo that independence vote and then they're fucking gone. It's happening. I don't know. It's tough right now. I've already put in my first click and collect order. All the pasta's gone.

I'm like fuck who beat me to this already? I've learnt nothing from first lockdown. To be fair, it was probably the same people whinging about free school meals that just went straight to Tesco and bought every single bag of fucking pasta. Like, you can't have it both ways, everyone. Yeah, no, that's what they want. Just chill out.

That's what they want. They didn't run out of pasta last time. It probably won't happen this time. Exactly. They've also learnt nothing from first lockdown. Did you watch Have I Got News For You last week it was very funny no i forgot what that lady's name she's like an indian heritage tory peer which is just like anyway varanasi something like that her name and she was on there and she's lost loads of weight recently and she went on there and the

first thing they say they're like oh dame or whatever the fuck her name is varanasi puts down her weight loss to better portion control a plan the tories are now exercising on the poorest children in england and i was like sick and accurate burn oh my god it was perfect it was perfect i think it's because the last two we've been doing car chronicles or like we i't remember what we did. We did a lot of we were very TV heavy. Yes. The last two weeks because that's been this year to be honest. Not to get TV heavy again and this wasn't actually on my list of things to discuss but I watched Rebecca. Oh did you? On Netflix yesterday. It's a nice way to kill a Sunday afternoon but it's not going to blow your mind and they completely changed ending from the original. That's all I'll say about it. But you know, while the roast is in the oven,

if you want something to watch, watch Rebecca. It's fine. It's just fine. So that's all I have to say. It's fine. Perfect. That's all I have to say on the matter. Okay, have we have you seen the reintroduction of the elusive missing character from the year 2020, the murder hornets. No, I haven't. I haven't. They're back. No, the plot hole is solved. So basically, I saw this this morning, that in Washington state,

the officials have officially destroyed their first ever murder hornet nest. Isn't that fucking terrifying? I've seen the pictures. I can confirm. Yes, it is terrifying. Basically, they found it in a tree, the nest, and apparently it was a basketball-sized nest is how it's described,

which in itself is horrific. And it's in a town called Blaine in Washington State. And the pictures of them, like, disposing of it is so scary because they're dressed in full head to toe like hazmat suits. It looks like a fucking outbreak or something. It's terrifying. And they basically, what they do is they destroy the nest, but they stuck like essentially a vacuum cleaner into it and into the tree to suck out all of the hornets.

They apparently pulled out around 200 hornets out of this nest. And Hannah, they've got them up against a ruler. They apparently pulled out around 200 hornets out of this nest. And Hannah, they've got them up against a ruler. They're two inches long. No. No, I refuse. No, thank you. It's so scary. And apparently they're basically saying like, it was a successful removal. We're going to cut down the tree, destroy the tree to make sure there are no like newborns in there. But I'm like, what are we celebrating? how could that possibly have been the only nest that can't be the only nest the forest is probably fucking riddled with them what do we do where do we go from here is basically the end of 2020 beginning of 2021 us now dealing with murder hornets because that's not what i want at all

the opposite i honestly have no idea where are the cuddly puppies that just come kiss you to death not the fucking murder hornets the murder hornets for fuck's sake man obviously because it's dark now and the clocks went back i went to the pub yesterday and usually on a sunday night in london in winter the pub is rammed people have been in there watching football all day everyone's been drinking since two and then you have a roast dinner and then like get a little bit too drunk and then like toddle home no no one no one there was like me my housemates and one other table it was terrifying it is it's like people are just over it and by it i mean like going outside yeah the outside world is over oh god it's so fucking scary i don't know i feel like the whole thing just feels so dystopian so obviously you'll have been seeing this whole

week has just been the tories trying to starve all the kids they're just like take the milk now we're gonna take take all your food as well starve the miners starve the miners mate i pissed myself so long when I saw that meme. That's so funny. For our international listeners, there is a footballer who's on the England squad

called Marcus Rashford. He is a super duper mega babe and I would marry him tomorrow. Love Marcus. He's been running a campaign for free school dinners for children below the poverty line who can't afford them.

Free school dinners have been a part of this country's, like, it's been around. It's not a new thing. It's kids of low-income backgrounds have had access to free school dinners for quite some years, but not anymore because the Tories have decided that food is a privilege. Yeah, basically what they're saying is just like during the Christmas holidays, it's basically during the holidays is when they don't want to do it. So they didn't traditionally do this, granted. So school dinners, free school dinners was like when the kids are at school

and they get their lunch given to them for free, paid for by the government because, you know, it's the right thing to do. Because we're socialist pigs. Absolutely. And what they're saying now is that over the summer, because of Marcus Rashford, he forced the government to basically continue giving kids preschool meals while they were at home because so many parents had been laid off. There was economic turmoil.

There's no money. So these kids were going to go hungry when they were at home. So they basically tried to force it again during the half-term holidays, which we're currently in. The Tories said absolutely no way. But now due to mounting pressure, they're talking about a U-turn already for this Christmas. And I'm like, why are you humiliating yourselves like this? They've U-turned on everything fucking else.

It's just humiliating. It's like you're having to have a football player point out what is the right thing to do morally and also what the fucking public want. Like you've completely misread the public feeling the public sentiment on this and that being that the public in the uk don't want little kiddies to starve over christmas during a fucking pandemic and also i'm saying uk actually scotland wales and ireland have already accepted this they're already doing the preschool

meals over christmas it's just england it's just the Tories here. It's just us. Fuck's sake. And what they were doing wasn't just giving their parents money. It was giving them food vouchers that they could go to the supermarket and use to buy food for their kids. And they said, these Tories who are opposing it, said that it's because they had some anecdotal evidence that showed that a few people they had met or heard about had traded in their food vouchers to buy drugs

and that's why we shouldn't help anybody. What? god come again oh i know these are the same fucking income hiding tax evading money grubbing fucking panama papers wankers who were like no we can't feed the kiddies because uh their parents might uh use that money to buy drugs use those vouchers to buy drugs marcus rashford and mcdon McDonald's are now feeding our kids over Christmas. Hooray! Oh my fucking God. It's outrageous. And the real

fucking irony of the whole thing is that every single MP in the Houses of Parliament has every single meal subsidised by taxpayer money. So the adults, the wealthy adults who've all been to fucking Oxbridge and have hundreds of thousands of pounds salary a year they can have their food for free just not the children of low-income families great fantastic glad we cleared that up excellent uh yep that's

exactly it it just makes me feel sick but uh watch this space they're definitely gonna have to use you turn on it because literally all being in government is, if you can just focus on two things, focus on these two things. Being kind of likeable and supporting popular public opinion, right? And the popular public opinion is, let's not let the little kids starve over Christmas while their parents haven't got jobs. How about that? No. No! Like fucking, how many focus groups do you need to do to come up with that?

Like literally talk to any single person that has a connection to the real world. I don't understand. Do you think that children in a country with, what are we, the seventh highest GDP in the world? Possibly. Something like that? We're one of the richest countries in the world. Let's just say that. Do you think that the children should have sandwiches?

Do you think that is something that should happen? I'm going to have to have a focus group and then I'll come back to you on that. But yes, that's what I believe very fervently. Fuck off. I mean, it's just a shit show. Test, trace, track, whatever. That's not fucking going anywhere.

We're about to enter some sort of no deal Brexit and eat chlorinated chicken for the rest of our lives. And the children are starving. So hooray. Anyway, should we talk about something else that's really horrible? Should we talk about Ghislaine Maxwell? Another horrible Brit who went off and did some horrible things. Ghislaine.

Can you imagine meeting someone called Ghislaine and being like, yeah, you seem cool. I'd be like, where am I? Have I come somewhere I'm probably being racially profiled and shouldn't be? I mean, probably, yes. Who let you in here? I don't know. How have I wandered into this place?

Who let me in? Who let me in? I had a blissful few moments this morning where I had forgotten about Ghislaine Maxwell. But I read a New York Times article on her deposition. So basically, she's given her deposition. It's now unsealed. We can read it. You can read the whole thing if you want to.

But it is pretty boring. I would advise just reading the New York Times. She denies everything. Oh, she denies everything. So this deposition is like four years old. So it happened in 2016. And Hannah's right. It is fucking long. I pulled it up and I thought years old. So it happened in 2016. And Hannah's right, it is fucking long. I pulled it up. And I thought, I'll have a read of this. Yeah, fucking

right. It's 418 pages of deposition. And yeah, she basically just denies everything in it. And like I said, we will leave the link to the transcript below. So you guys can read it if you want in full. Well, kind of in full, because actually, when you're reading it, the most frustrating thing that apart from Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein every single person's name is redacted so you're like what who are they even talking about fuck's sake I'm guessing Prince Andrew yeah the sweaty nonce probably him oh my god and the one thing that is worth reading this transcript for or at least were reading like if you't, like the summaries or the praises of it that are out there, because although the transcript is quite like heavily redacted, the transcripts do reveal

that in 2015, Ghislaine Maxwell emailed Sweaty Nonce Prince Andrew the day after she sent out a press release, sweatynonce at gmail.com, at buckinghampalace.com, saying that, basically denying that she helped epstein to traffic and abused that lady uh virginia dufray obviously not a lady at the time she was a child at the time and in that email maxwell wrote to andrew she says quote have some info call me when you have a moment to which sweaty nonce prince andrew replied quote let me know when we can talk got some specific questions to ask about virginia ro Roberts, because that was her name before she got married. And when asked about what she and Andrew were talking about in that email conversation that they fucking have when she's being questioned during this deposition,

Ghislaine Maxwell just says, we're just talking about what a liar she is. The specific information I have and that he wants is just what a liar she is. Sure. Yeah, right. These people are sick. These people are fucking sick. And Prince Andrew needs to be in jail. Can we just put him in the tower?

That'd be great, wouldn't it? Oh, shall we? Should that be our 2021 campaign? Get the nonce in the tower. Oh my God, let's start it. Hashtag get that nonce in the fucking tower. There's something. We can make some merch.

We can go hang out outside Buckingham Palace. Where does he live? Not Buckingham Palace, somewhere else. Sandringham, I think. Woking? No. We'll go find him. We'll go find him.

He just manages the Pizza Express. Oh my God. He lives above it. He has to get a mortgage because it's above a restaurant, but you know, he's Prince Andrew. He can do what he wants. He's Prince Andrew. Oh my God. And apparently, I, you know, he's Prince Andrew. You can do what you want. He's Prince Andrew. Oh, my God.

And apparently, I don't know if you saw this, a couple of days ago it was being reported that Prince Andrew was planning his return to public duties. And I was like, sorry, what? But the palace have since confirmed that unless he clears his name, this won't be happening. And I'm like, so you're accepting that his name is sweaty and dirty in all that fucking child rape he did you imagine have like i don't know how much

like eating together the royal family do this is true but can you imagine just sitting at the table just at that piece of express yeah and the queen's like well son i hear you've been in trouble. Would you like to explain yourself? Stop dropping that cutlery, you sweaty nonce. Oh, he's such a dick. You're sticking to the core. At 11.30 at night. I'm like, that is so far too late. Guess I'll just wake up and find out what happens the next day.

I can't even watch the UK election. This most recent one, as soon as Blythe Valley went Tory, I cried and went to bed. I was like, fuck this. There's no point. Absolutely. The fucking blue wall of shit. Yeah. No, thanks.

Have you watched Unsolved Mysteries yet? I know I said I was going to watch it on my birthday, but I didn't. No, no, I haven't. I kind of started to and then I didn't really get into it because I was just kept being distracted. So instead I have a horror movie recommendation that I did watch. I watched a Russian horror movie which I was pleasantly surprised by called Sputnik. Bit on the nose. I thought they could have picked a better name. I felt like they were really running with their brand as Russians in that one. But it's called sputnik it's very like if you like a good spacey sci-fi like alien-y horror it's good it's very good and strong female lead which again i was

surprised by liked it very good recommend have you also seen the scientific list that everybody keeps fucking posting all over social media of what has now been decided and voted upon to be the scariest horror movies of all time that was released last week no guess what came first number one spot in a scariest movies ever made number one fahrenheit 11 9 it's sinister what i know i know i even re-watched it this weekend oh come on i know guys whoever the fuck was voting in this whatever methodology they were using to compile this list that is shocking i re-watched sinister this weekend after i saw that list just to be like is it though it's not it's not there's a fucking demon-faced man called bagul in it it's shit it's not shit

but it's not the scariest i was really appalled by that not impressed at all i think i get sinister confused with insidious yeah i mean insidious was up there it was in the top five i think the top five were like in whatever order but definitely with sinister number one sinister is the one with ethan hawke so he like moves his family into a murder house so he can write a true crime book on the murders that happen there. And then like weird shit happens. And he finds the snuff films in the attic.

I mean, I'm sure I've seen it. You probably have. That's how like unmemorable it is. And then Insidious is the other one with the little kid. And then it was Paranormal Activity, The Conjuring, and then something equally as fucking bait. And I was like how are these the scariest movies of all time this is embarrassing put this list away which

publication did this oh i can't remember i think rotten tomatoes did one and then this one was done by somebody else but the rotten tomatoes one was also i think they found the scariest movie of all time to be the exorcist which i can get on board with more than sinister because I felt like it had more cultural impact even if it's not scary scary anymore but fucking sinister it's so like bae I was really like shocked by that no not impressed I think I would still say martyrs is the scariest film I've ever seen it's up there for sure yeah it definitely stayed with me the longest that's for sure and then followed swiftly by Open Water. They say Hollywood is where dreams are made.

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I haven't been able to hang out this year. It is like genuinely the only time we're like hanging out where we're not talking just about the case with the script in front of us. So I think it's kept us very sane in all accounts. Speaking of sane, speaking of completely insane, did you watch the presidential debate? Honestly, mate, I watched fucking 10 minutes of it and I was like, I can't handle this shit. Like if you don't already know, now you know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. If you don't know, now you already know. Now you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't know, now you fucking know. Mate, I did watch the whole thing. And I don't know why I did it to myself. Because it was like making me want to break out in hives or something. It felt like being a plastic bag trapped in a fan. That is such a good description.

That's how I felt. That's how my brain felt when I was watching it. And like, obviously, fuck Trump for so many reasons. But how dare you speak about Joe Biden's son? How dare you? He's so stupid as well. I mean, yes, the disgusting immorality of like making a point on a political stage about a man's son who has got like a substance abuse problem. But just the stupidity politically of it.

I mean, is America or is it not currently going through a massive fucking opioid crisis that is predominantly impacting like middle class white families? Do you think it's going to like endear those voters to you if you make fun of a man whose son has recovered from drug abuse like you're so stupid i just but you'd be amazed though there was someone on the facebook group just the other day with my president this my president that did you see that oh my god no thankfully fucking hell yeah yeah yeah no there was a whole fucking thing about it the whole like he's got covid thing today maybe that'll finish him off maybe the whole pandemic has just been a very like elaborate plan to get rid of trump in a non-martyrdom sense because if it kills him the

anti-mask people will have to shut up won't they they will i mean he was on stage making fun of biden for wearing a mask during a fucking pandemic but anyway like why are we surprised i'm not surprised that was what was happening should we talk about another horrible man yes please is it chris watts it is chris watts so i am guessing pretty much everybody listening has watched the new Chris Watts documentary on Netflix. I like eagerly anticipated that documentary. Eagerly anticipated it. They were like, it's dropping on Wednesday. I was like, oh my God. And then I watched it. If you guys haven't seen it, it's called American Murder, The Family Next Door. What did you think? What were your thoughts? I've written in my notes, Chris Watts hyphen neighbor fetus because if you

haven't seen it here be spoilers the neighbor right he's across the road has his own like cctv system and like chris watts is in that he brings the police into this neighbor's house being like oh he has cameras we can look and this neighbor's playing the like footage of the street whatever chris watts then leaves no sooner is his foot out the fucking door than this neighbor was like it was him he never moved stuff in the middle of the night it was him it was him like and also like when chris watts is fucking standing there they're playing the footage somehow what happens on the tv is it cct footage for one minute and then it's like ultrasound footage of a fetus and chris watts is like oh yeah and she's pregnant i was like what

it was that like superimposed like why do you why is that the next clip it was really weird so the thing is about the Chris Watts documentary and that bit in particular because I did the research on the Chris Watts case like last year when we did it so I had seen a lot of that footage already like I had watched it when we did the case oh right right right um so I wasn't like necessarily surprised when the neighbor said oh it was him because I already knew that but the fetus thing i didn't clock at the time but it's because i think he switches it off and then it goes on to like fox news or some shit and they're talking about like fetuses but yeah that is just like such a perfect moment and i didn't watch the interrogate i couldn't remember having watched the interrogation in that much depth and the way they

just fucking like play him and how stupid he is it's just it's just it's great to watch it's great to watch like that FBI um man because there's a man and a woman the FBI man how he like corners Chris Watts the way he sits with him and they touch him so much like I wasn't expecting that but it's like a man and a woman and they do the polygraph and the woman's like I know you're being deceptive so that's not an issue that's not what we're discussing we're discussing where the fuck your kids are but like then when he brings his dad in and confesses the whole fucking thing like they come in and they don't hug him but they sort of like pat him on the shoulder and like give him a bit of a squeeze and I was like that is some skills

like it was incredible to watch I know man and they they missed they cut a bit out in that documentary that sort of links the bit between when the dad is talking to him and then when she comes in and like basically puts her arms around him because the last thing the dad says to him after chris watts confesses to him he says uh okay we'll get you a lawyer and let's see what they can do and you know that the police are watching because the minute the dad says the word lawyer, they open the door and they come in and that's when she puts her arms around him because she's just like,

she's basically saying, we don't need a lawyer. We don't need one of those. We're here to help you. We're all you need, Chris. Don't worry about it. Don't be silly. And God, all the time when they're just like,

we know what it's like, man. She must have been nagging you all the time when they're just like we know what it's like man she must have been nagging you all the time it must have been so difficult like i get it yeah and look at you you're so fit now look what a big strong man you are i know oh my god you look great i would cheat if i was you and also i'd like obviously looked at pictures of the time but i didn't see any like moving footage of um nicole is it it Nicole, the girl he has an affair with? Yes, Nicole Kessinger. Jesus God, she looks like Shanann. Like they are the same fucking person.

It's crazy. He's got a type. Yeah, she's just Shanann four years ago. Like that's what it is. Like, and the, I don't know. And we don't even need to like comment too much on this because I'm sure everyone in our audience and us are agreed on this. But the horrific part of the documentary where they are talking, reading out Facebook posts that people have posted where they're blaming Shanann. Like fucking being annoying isn't a reason to be murdered.

Precisely. My God. Like fuck. Being a type A personality doesn't mean you should be murdered for it, which is what she was. And also the most tragic and ironic thing about that whole situation is that I think Chris Watts getting to be like the fitness he was at after they got married, etc. was because Shanann pushed him. And so she makes him be a better version of himself. And then he's like, oh, lol, now I can do better than you.

I'm going to murder you and our children. He's such a dickhead. Do you know what was the most fucking unsettling thing about that whole film? In their wedding video, on their first dance, Chris Watts is chewing chewing gum. You vile beast. Like, the one time in your life.

No. Imagine your wedding video and just be like, like, no, take it out. Disgusting. That's fucking red flag right there. He is a disgusting piece of shit. Truly, truly, truly, truly is. I cannot stand him.

He makes me, he just makes my stomach crawl. And apparently, up until recently, he's had a picture of Shanann and the kids in his fucking prison cell no why why the fuck was that i don't want to get all nancy grace i don't want to get all yelly about like okay fine no but still why he shouldn't be allowed to have that that's

despicable if you've killed someone i don't think you should be allowed a picture of them in your cell no i hate it no no i don't think be allowed. I don't think they would like it. I don't think those people who were murdered would be okay with that. And I think that that shouldn't be allowed. I don't think they would give their knowing consent considering they are dead because of you. No, precisely.

But no, I thought like all in all, I thought it was like a very well-made documentary, especially if you don't know the case at all. Because I watched it with my mum and she didn't know the case at all. And yeah, like it was good. Do you know what is missing though these days for me uh when I watch a documentary like that is I kind of miss what now I'm used to watching with like YouTube videos or with podcasts where it's somebody just telling me their opinion about it at the same time that's true well I don't want to make my own mind up fuck tell me what I need to think

and I was like nobody's telling me what they think about this what am I supposed to think so I'm already superimposed their opinion upon me so I can pass it on as my own and make a living out of it thanks genuinely can you just tell me what I'm what's happening here because I'm lost I'm lost so no I did think that but um no I thought it was a well-made documentary well done I don't think I got that much more information out of it but I thought it was a very concise telling of the entire case yes I agree I think it was well made it wasn't too long it was just bish bash bosh straight to the point so go and watch it I mean now it's thoroughly ruined but you know whatever um you'll get over it would you like an empty-handed

update if you haven't listened to it because you're like a new person yeah and if you haven't listened to our episode on the chris watts case because like you're a new person or whatever i was gonna look up which number it was but i failed to do so um so if you just go into your app into your podcast player and search red-handed Chris Watts, it'll come up. We did a very extensive case on it sometime last year. So go look for that. Yeah. Shall we have a shall we have an episode of Empty Handed?

Let's let's. I've got a couple of updates. Shall we start by the fact that we got tagged on Instagram by plenty of fish yesterday? Honestly, I text that in like the group house chat, like my housemates chat and they were like hannah like this is tragic and i was like i know or or we could decide that we're just single women icons and just run with that precisely it's iconic we're iconic that's what it is red empty-handed is now iconic no um yeah so that happened. I'm sure it isn't a real reflection of how single we are. But we are still single. And I found an article Hannah that maybe is what has been missing in our dating lives. Okay, so this was recommended to me on on Facebook by the good

old Huffington Post, who writes some pretty shoddy writing sometimes I'm gonna say unfortunately but this one in particular really stood out it's called nine questions to ask on a first date according to divorce lawyers are you ready yeah so I'm not gonna name the divorce lawyers who've said it because each of them have like contributed their own question but we're just gonna go through it because you know I don't want to shame them too much. But some of these are fucking hilarious. Okay, so number one, the question is that you need to ask, Hannah, pay attention, when was the last time you talked to your siblings or your parents?

And I was like, okay, fair enough. Would you like to know the reason why this person, why this divorce lawyer suggests that you ask that? Yep. This is like quotes okay i would find a way to ask your date about how close they are to their family divorces can be caused by one person being so close to their family that they prioritize them over their marriage and have poor boundaries on the flip side it gets better on the flip side bad family relationships can be a sign of a personality disorder shit shit run i was reading this and i was like i cannot believe what i'm reading it was

i was like lolling out laughing out loud literally l lolling it was insane okay it gets even better so the next one is ask them do you believe in happily ever after and i was like all right that's quite nice it's like you know i'd rather choke on my own vomit than say that sentence but go on but obviously you would never ask that but i was like i would quite like to know that about a guy because i'm i would think like the reason you're asking or trying to find that out is because you're like is he romantic does he believe in monogamy does he believe in marriage no no no this person who said this says all relationships require work from both parties someone who thinks happily ever after just happens is not going to be a great partner savage okay question three are you ready just three simple words are you married

this person said seriously ask this separated or married means not yet divorce your date should be divorced this is literally word for word what this article said oh my god honestly i just i just can't cope right number four what do you love most about your job okay that's a nice that's a nice question that's a nice question so they're like oh you know you should ask about their job to find out if they have a sense of pride in what they do are they passionate about it, blah. You also want to know if they're not too married to their job so they don't like have any time to spend with you. Because, you know, that could be a red flag. I was like, OK, that's a fair enough question. I don't know how you're deciphering all that from

them just like telling you about their job. The next one, particularly interesting. Where did you go on your last vacation? Yeah. Good question. Yeah. Seemingly innocuous question, right? Good question. Yeah. Why, why would you ask that? I'd ask that to find out what type of like a holiday area is. Are we compatible? Yeah. Yeah. Seems reasonable. That's not why this divorce lawyer is asking you to find out. He's saying, or she's saying saying what you really want to know when you ask this question is how did you pay for your last vacation but that's a hard question to ask outright but by asking where they went you can find out if that was an extravagant holiday without having to ask wow how did you pay for that they said finding out if your date made a large purchase by saving over time or putting

the trip on a credit card can be really useful information. It can lead you to information about how much debt your potential mate is in. I was like, how are we getting to all of that? What's happening? Okay, I'm on number six. This gets better. Okay. The question is, do you know who Johnny Carson is?

And they said, I don't know. I don't know. And they said, basically, find a way to ask your date how old they are without asking them. It tells you on Hinge how old they are. Question number seven is perfect because the question is, do you consider yourself to be a good communicator? Because, you know, the best way to find out someone is a good communicator is to just

ask them. It's straight up asking them. Just ask them. And then when they say yes, you can be like oh a half you few because i hear that one of the main reasons of a breakdown of a marriage is bad communication but like i think my theory is that everyone thinks they're funny right i've never met anyone who doesn't think they're funny um i think everyone thinks they are a good communic community even if they are not oh my god mate this this article is so funny the next one is just like how did your last

relationship end and they say you should ask to see if they put any of the blame on themselves which i think is actually quite like a sensible thing to see if they just like call their ex a psycho bitch it's probably not a good thing i'd say run away yeah probably not a not a goer not a goer so the final question is, ask them, if you could go back in time, what's the one thing you would change about your life? And I was like, okay. And this is just so fucking patronising.

The answer to this is, this can be a fun conversation and it can really reveal a lot. Ask each other what you'd have done differently. And if they say, I would live in a country far away from my mother, that's a bad sign. If they say, though, I would have gone to college on the East Coast because I never had the opportunity to live there. Quote, that's probably not a bad sign. Oh, my mate.

Who fucking wrote this shit? Can we? Oh, that is hysterical. What is your one question that you ask on a first date? Are you going to hurt me? Because I've had enough. I think that's fair. We should add that as number 10.

Question number 10. Question number 10. Are you a fucking dickhead? That's so amazing. Because that's what men do. They're all fine for the first two weeks. It's 10. Oh, you are fucking dickhead. That's so amazing. Because that's what men do. They're all fine for the first two weeks. It's surprise, I'm a dick. It's hard.

It's hard. Dating is hard. That's why these articles are being written, as if they're helping anybody. Yeah. I don't know, maybe that helped you. Well, there's that really famous New York Times article, isn't there? It's either 23 or 32 questions to create intimacy. Have you heard about this you heard about this I have um yeah I couldn't get through the whole article but

they're all like pretty like what is your biggest regret um anyway um so as you can tell dating is not going particularly well for me recently and I've got two empty-handed updates went on a second date with a guy it didn't work out for reasons i'm too embarrassed to talk about moving on um so 10 years ago uh i came across this actor who is now um he's blue ticked i'll just leave it at that because otherwise you'll all fucking duvet detective your way and i don't want you to harass him anyway um he is now blue ticked and um it was and please beat that uh anyway i he pops up like we never really got together but it was like this very like long thing and I would bump in every two years I'd bump into him at something and we're all like oh you know what if like blah blah blah so it was coming up to the two-year

mark recently and I was like oh I wonder what beep is doing because I haven't heard or seen from of or from him and then lo and behold he comes up on my hinge and I was like oh my god this is perfect this is the time 2020 is finally the year I finally get to shag beeping beep anyway so I sent him a message and I was like you again how's tricks messages me back being like tricks are great how are you and then unmatches me within 10 minutes. I am done. I am done. Oh, maybe.

I don't know. Unmatching someone is not a mistake. It is a process. It's not like a slip of the thumb. Maybe he deleted his hinge. I don't know. Who knows? What, because he's going to be outside my window with a boombox? Exactly.

It's like I found her. She's the one. I don't need this. I'm going to go fucking talk to her. I don't know. Oh, mate. I think it's all just there to test us, isn't it? Honestly, like, I really hope that this is all happening

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