Regulation Podcast - Horse Not Horse Draft

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

A horse is a horse, of course, of course. And no one can talk to a horse of course. That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. He's a horse though so we can't draft him. AN EGG Horse n...ot horse draft coming your way. Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 one of those magical experiences where we all get to share in something that's greater than the sum of our parts because we are inventing and unleashing under the world to that, but what? The horse not horse draft. It's okay. Nick's going to edit that little flub out. I don't think he's going to edit any of that. I think that that's, I mean, that's absolutely you.
Starting point is 00:01:03 He's going to edit that bit right out, and then we'll be fine. I'm really worried about this one. Oh, you're worried. I've just worried that all of my picks will get taken before I use it. It's possible. That is possible. It is very, very possible with this one. You better hope to go first.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Well, in order to go first, we must go to our regulation draft generator and randomize our names. this horse not horse draft where the pool is horses that aren't horses Is that how I mean this was a Jeff idea Oh I'm sorry this was a Gavin idea Yeah it's a Gavin idea
Starting point is 00:01:38 Oh right sorry Gavin Yeah but we can leave it to Jeff To explain exactly what we're drafting If that's okay Yeah allow me a second to get into the mind of Gavin real fast When he when he birthed this idea Into the universe and gifted us all
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yet again with his brilliance I believe what Gatham was going for here is a draft where we draft horses that are not horses. Yeah, it's weird that I'm so worried about my own idea. It's crazy how that looked out. Listen, you got to be more confident in yourself.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Why do I do it to myself? That's what I always say. You're always saying that. So I can throw out an example, but then... No need because I think that it will probably be on the draft board. I wouldn't do an example.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I don't know why you would do an example. example. I don't know that we've ever done an example. Well, he wanted me to explain what it was, and so I just want to make sure everybody understands. Didn't feel like it needed an example in order to be explained. Okay. Well, I don't think it needed to be explained because the title was the explanation. Horses that aren't horses. Right. It made sense to me. I didn't elaborate in any way when I explained. I just read the title of the draft. You're right. You didn't elaborate in any way. I agree. And then I go, if I need to go further, I can give an example.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But I was like, whoa, hold on, back off. Don't give an example, Jesus Christ. Do I hear trotting? Wait, is that trotting in it? It can't be. It's not a horse. We're doing not horses. It's horse-dog horse.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It has to be some other thing that's similar to a trot. Speaking of trotting, my anus is clearing up. Yeah. How was the rest of your fish evening, Gavin? It was a bad evening, but today we're solidifying, and I don't think I've got the trots any longer. Excellent. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:24 There's a trots. How many times are we randomizing names here for horse, not horse? Five. Yeah, I think five because for the letters, horse.
Starting point is 00:03:32 That's what I was thinking. And that's how many legs the horse has. There you go. What? Oh, are you all right. It is Andrew,
Starting point is 00:03:42 Nick, Eric, Jeff Gavin. We randomized five times. Here's one, two, three, four, which would be Eric, Nick, Jeff, Andrew, right where I belong, the boring ass middle.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Keep me there! And then here we go, five, Nick! Yeah! Eric, Jeff, Andrew, that is the order that we will be drafting. Horse, not horse in. Boys, it's time. It's a horse is a horse of course. So let's see what horse, not horse you pick.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Nick, we start with you. Andrew, how do you feel about being at the end before we start? Fantastic. I feel great. I feel like there's probably like seven or eight very obvious picks. And I don't mind being in the back because I feel like I have two that We'll be safe. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You got to get that Andrew level confidence, Gavin. Yeah, dude. Maybe next time. I got my coconuts at my desk. I'm holy grailing it. I'm ready for this draft. Let's do it. I got my fake horse.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Before Nick goes, how many does everyone have? Oh, that's a good question. Let me see. I've eight, ten. 10, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Andrew? 12. I have 14.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Wow. Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness. I'm so excited to see the honorable mentions, but we get started. Before we get to honorable mentions, we have to get actual mentions, and that would be with our first rap pick. Well, I'm going with something that is
Starting point is 00:04:59 very near and dear to me, which is horseradish sauce or horsey sauce as it's known. It goes well with roast beef. Horse radish first overall? I'm sorry, are you questioning me? I just feel it's a very divisive horse-not horse.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I feel like there are people that absolutely hate horseradish. Horse radish is absolutely tremendous and would have been my first pick. It's dog shit. It's amazing. First off, you can't stand it and make it. Oh, you hate white things. Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Well, Jeff, let me just say, you're missing out. It is truly a treat on certain seafoods. You can diet green and pretend it's wasabi. You could also do that. I feel I most engage with horseradish in honey mustard and sometimes it's just like
Starting point is 00:05:51 not the feel. You most engage with horseradish? Is that what you said? What does that mean? Because there are certain honey Mustards that have horse radish in them. Yeah, which gives it a nice pep.
Starting point is 00:06:04 No, but I'm saying that's not a universal across every honey mustard. There are just some variants that use horse radish and sometimes it's a bit much. It could be a bit much. I'm sure all the
Starting point is 00:06:15 all the radish heads out there are going to go crazy over this first pick. I just, I think it's divisive. Your first pick, because you said specifically horser radish saw it, Is it horseradish or horseradish sauce? The sauce.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Okay. I'm just making sure. I just want to make sure I'm being thorough here. Was horseradish one that everyone had on their list? No, because I knew it was going to get picked. Yeah, I had it. I had it as horsy sauce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Specifically from Arby's, but it's the same thing, so I can't. It is the same thing, but the horsy sauce is better than some just horse radish sauces. I just don't know why they changed the name to horsey sauce. Nay. I've never even seen. Horses sauce. I don't know. Great explanation, man.
Starting point is 00:06:56 You guys should, you guys are going to be great on vaudeville later. Oh, man. Well, horse radish sauce is off the board. And now we go to Gavin, international pick here. Gavin, what is your first choice in the horse not horse draft?
Starting point is 00:07:11 I feel like I'm going to, that was going to be my first pick, but I feel like I'm going to take a page out of Nick's book and go with horseradish, just horse radish. Yeah. So you're just going to copy Nick? No, no, no, no, I'm not going to dilute it.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's next book, though. Every choice he makes is a copy of yours. Yep. Yep. Gavin, I respect the move. You do? Yeah, it's my fucking move. There's a reason he loves it. He went, shit, I should do that. How do you feel about it being used against you?
Starting point is 00:07:40 I mean, horse radish sauce is superior to the original horseradish, so use it if you want. I feel like, you can't make horserogish sauce without horseradish, and you can use horseradish in other ways. What are the other ways that you can use horseradish? Yeah, tell me how. You bathe with it? What do you do? Well, pretend wasabi.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You can grate it. You can put it in a, you know, I meant like what other dishes can you make? And Nick said, bathe with it. Yeah, I mean, I'm curious where he's going with it. Want to smell spicy? Dig it up out of the ground? That's what I picked.
Starting point is 00:08:15 There you go. Excellent, you could dig it up. Excellent. It's a key ingredient in, in like 80% of the spells and charmed. That's true. And you can't dig up the sauce. I mean, if you drop it, you can't.
Starting point is 00:08:32 If you drop it so hard, it goes underground. It might be if I fall into a hole. What is happening? Okay, well, horseradish sauce and horse radish are both off the board. Did anyone just have horseradish by itself? Nope. Nope. I did.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I sort of viewed them as one and the same. Yeah. It's my bid, Gavin. I had it. Of course I had it. So if I didn't drafted that, you would have next drafted horse radish. Yeah, probably. Depending on what's left.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah. Might have saved it for the end. It would have been horse radish sauce, and then his second pick would have been just horse radish the thing, the root. No, I'd have closed that with it. And then his third pick would have been horse and his fourth pick would have been radish. This fifth thing with sauce. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Okay. All right. Well, I'm the next pick, and I'm definitely getting away from this root, this edible thing, because I am going very specific with the 1965 Ford Mustang. Oh. That's very interesting. I wasn't sure if we were going to allow this. Incredible year for the car.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Incredible look. That is truly an impressive motor vehicle. the Ford Mustang is my horse not horse why would we not allow it how is that a horse or not a horse well because Mustang is a horse
Starting point is 00:10:00 yeah and it's not I just I wasn't sure if everything needed horse in it what is the confusion it doesn't have the word horse in it why would it have to have the word horse it's a Mustang which is a horse
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm not saying what you're I just wasn't sure you are saying you're the one who brought it up You're this is your fault you don'ts no everybody's an agreement and I feel like I'm the one pushing the least Dickhead I'm just saying I thought everything I'm like Eric come on your side I'm just saying I wasn't sure everybody I want a horse not horse to have all the horses
Starting point is 00:10:39 I hate when you're on my side this is here a fucking I wasn't even against it I just said I wasn't sure to bring it up at all in psychotic. Just because I brought it up doesn't mean everybody else wasn't thinking it. There's a fucking parade of people behind me. What did you think was going to happen?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Andrew, thank you. They're all possible of their own thought. Andrew, thank you for the clarity that you brought to this draft because it helps inform my next choice. It's really, yeah. It really, it really helped. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:11:19 thanks for being on my side. I appreciate it. I just, I vocalized it. I really thought the parade of people behind me that seemed to be more concerned about it would have more to say, but they didn't apparently. I'm very aware that you vocalized it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Thanks, man. Appreciate it. That's awesome. I liked it. I, uh, I really do appreciate it, Andrew. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I have the same question. Yeah, I don't, I don't like that pick. I don't get it. is shit. No care. It is not for us to judge, Gavin, but... I feel like, kind of it, mostly it is. You know what?
Starting point is 00:12:00 I take it back. I mean, it's fine. You're wrong. It's a horse, not horse. The 1965 Ford Mustang on the list, number one with a bullet. A Mustang is a horse. Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, but I feel like there's a spirit to this thing. I mean, if a Mustang's a horse... You pick the same... The first two picks. are the same thing They're different There's a sport to this thing Oh I'm gonna go with one
Starting point is 00:12:26 And I'm gonna go with one A All right right right on man cool Now they're different though They're different Jeff you have your first pick In the horse not horse draft God damn you guys got me a little scared to pick now But I'm gonna go ahead and take Go out on a limb here
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm gonna pick the original Horse Tooth jackass Gary Delabate We established through Eric that it doesn't have to have the worst horse in it. But even if it did, that's his name, horse-tooth jackass. He's a horse, not a horse. Andrew, who side are you on? I just, I mean, I think it's a wild pick. I do feel, I'd like to hear the other people's thoughts that were like, I don't know if I have enough picks.
Starting point is 00:13:06 How you feel it now about your picks and that you're going to have run out? I've got an abundance of picks. Yeah, I, I, I'm rich. I am rich in picks. If you guys don't want me to use it, I got plenty. No, no, no, it's fine. No, no, no, I think that's so, like, I would never consider that. No, no, I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I will say, I'm not saying that you shouldn't pick them, because I think it's, I think horse shoe jackass is great. However, when I think of Gary, uh, I do think of his, uh, other animal for son of the techno beaver. A techno beaver. Yeah, that's me personally. I just wanted to get as much, as much mouth as possible in the image. Um, you do.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Definitely got it. Just for the record, I have, that's the only one, only pick I have that doesn't have the word horse in the title. So I'm happy to switch it out. That's what I was going to ask, because did any of our rocks, not rocks, not have rocks in the, what? Did it not have rocks in the title, in the pick? Oh. Yeah, all mine had rock. I think all mine had rock.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I don't remember my picks. I don't remember. Great. Well, moving on, Andrew, your first, you actually have two. two picks here. You have the last pick of the first round and the first pick of the second round. So Andrew back to back picks, what you got? It's, I didn't expect to be in this position of some of the things available. I'm shot, I'm going to go
Starting point is 00:14:29 with my first overall pick, if I was going first, one of my favorite games at recess, one of my favorite pieces of achievement hunter content, I'm picking horse. Nice. The game horse. Ah, that's great. It's a great one. It was on my list, too. Taking basketball shots, watching videos, and then eventually you guys got tired of doing so many, so you change it to the pig, reduce the amount of work you have to do. I respect it. Is that right? Did you guys? I didn't know that. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:14:57 We did Halo Pig and Trials Pig. Yeah. Halo Pig. I just love horse. It's a fun game. Fond memories playing it. Fawn memories watching it near to my heart. It's a top horse, not horse. You watched horse? Oh, you just mean the videos? Yeah, the videos, too. I mean, I've also watched horses.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I don't know what you mean by like, what is horse to you. Yeah, what does that mean? What were you asking him? I just imagined him at school just watching other people play horse. No. Okay. I mean, maybe I did, but not like, wasn't like, oh, let me put the chair down so I can observe some horse.
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Starting point is 00:16:30 Another powerful horse And just to me It's a great A great understanding of how stupid human brains are It is horsepower A measurement that was made because the person that was trying to sell like the idea of a device to move things for mining
Starting point is 00:16:48 they were like no we got horses for that we don't need this and they're like well what if we say it's worth 30 horses and they're like oh fuck you can do 30 horses with this thing hell yeah bring me eight of them very dumb I like it because it's still the measure today yes oh how many horsepower does that have
Starting point is 00:17:08 does that mean it's just like if you had 350 horses they would go as fast as a car that's awesome we gotta get 350 horses it is incredibly stupid logic but it's what ended up selling it was like the engine thing they were doing
Starting point is 00:17:27 for helping moving mining shit I feel great about my picks I feel really good for the swing they're great they're really good nice swing well done you took a couple yeah good shit excellent and you didn't even have to pick horseradish in any way shape or as we go to Jeff with his second pick here.
Starting point is 00:17:45 My second pick, I'm going to stay human, I think, with this pick. I think this might be the only other human I have on the list. But this one's a little bit more literal. You may not know them by name, but you know them by the greatest character in Twin Peaks. I'm talking about the actor Michael Horse, who played Deputy Hawk in Twin Peaks. Oh, wow. Michael Horse. I didn't know that was a name.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I didn't know that was his name. Michael Horse. Coolest character in all of David Lynch's entire au revoir. Wow. And when he came back in his hair was all white, it looked epic. Yeah, he looks really cool as fuck. Yeah. Michael Horse is a great pick in the Horse Not Horse Draft.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. We're moving on. I'm staying in the world of entertainment and cinema. In the year, 1970, much was occurring. But one thing prevailed above all. and that was a young actor Sylvester Stallone
Starting point is 00:18:43 in a movie that I think he wishes never came out and that would be Italian Stallion from 1970 Sylvester Stallone Star of Rocky goes X-rated he plays stud and it is an X-rated film that is readily available Italian Stallion Does he shag? Yeah I don't think that it's like hardcore hardcore I've never seen Italian stallion
Starting point is 00:19:08 I don't need to watch Stud and Kitty get into whatever they're getting into. But, uh, yeah, this, this being a thing that has followed his career, his entire career, has, uh, is very interesting to me to do something that early and then, uh, become Oscar nominated, I believe for Rocky. Oh, good for him. Italian stallion. Also a nickname, I think, for Rocky.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yes, yeah. He's the Italian, there you go. Italian stallion, 1970 is my picking horse, not horse. Uh, well done. Yeah, you're fine with that one, but not the other one. Whatever. Gavin, go ahead. You have your second pick for the horse, not horse draft.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Well, you know, I like fun. I had a lot of fun as a kid. Honestly, before you got here, that's what we were saying. We were like, guys, when's Gavin getting here? We know he likes fun. Always been a lover of fun. I've always been saying that. Sometimes fun, it gets a little bit rowdy.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You sort of pranking each other, diving on each other. Shoving each other. It's horse play. Horse play. is good. That was on my list. Horse play was on my list. Yeah, horseplay is good. I wonder if people in the horse world describe horse playing as horseplay.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Have horses ever horse played? Yeah, I think horses can muck about. Oh, they absolutely can. I just, I wonder if anyone in, like, I wonder if that's vernacular they use. Oh, they're horse playing. Maybe they call it human play. I think, don't they, like, stand up on, like, their back legs and, like, kick at each other
Starting point is 00:20:36 and stuff? Oh, they kick at each other, they fuck around. I just saw a video. of a horse shoving a cat into a thing of water just fun. What? Okay. They have a good time. Yeah, it sounds like the cat did too. Definitely horse play. I mean, that's a definite horse play. I'm just curious if people in the horse world ever
Starting point is 00:20:52 refer to horseplay as horseplay. I think of like people doing it typically, but I'm not around horses. What do you think they would call it otherwise? I don't know. Stallion battalion. Okay. You think they have
Starting point is 00:21:07 you think they have another fun term that we just don't know about. I think so. Yeah. Mustang, muckery, maybe. They're muckering about. That might be my next thing. I don't know. Horse people, let me know. Ever look at a bunch of horses and just got, ah, they're horse playing? Well, horseplay on the board, and we round out the second round with Nick, and we start the third round with him as well. So Nick, You got back-to-back picks here. Back-to-back. Well, I'm going to take a page from Gavin's book here.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Oh, shit. I am going to go with horsing around. Oh, good pick. That was on my list. Now, I have horsing around, but I had it as a horseplay slash horsing around. Now, where to me they were the same thing. Horsing around, though, is to engage in playful, boisterousness or sleep behavior similar to horseplay. Explain.
Starting point is 00:22:08 how they're different in any way. Like, explain something that would be horsing around but not horseplay. That, thank you, yes. People usually get hurt when you're horsing around. No, people can get hurt in horseplay.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But horseplay is much more fun base. I think people, yeah, are you saying no one gets hurt in horseplay? I think horseplay becomes horsing around when someone gets hurt. I mean, I hate to, as someone who picked horseradish after horse radish sauce,
Starting point is 00:22:29 I'm still going to go in on this and say you've just picked exactly what mine was. I don't think so. I'd like to bring Google into this if I could for a second. Yes, please do. Google says while both horseplay and horsing around describe boisterous playful behavior
Starting point is 00:22:43 horse play often implies a level of roughhousing or even dangerous activity whereas horsing around can range from mild silliness to more energetic but still relatively harmless play get horsed well that's the opposite of what Nick said then well then I'm wrong but also it doesn't matter because it's different
Starting point is 00:23:02 get horse Gavin I just need to know just before because it sounds like we're probably going to, like, let this one in. Oh, after horseradish, we should. Don't, again, you didn't have a problem with horseradish. I didn't, Mr. Mustang. I just want to, you, and you didn't have a problem with Italian style. Again, you're just so all over the place.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But what I want to know is where, who, I want to know whose side Andrew is on. Oh, good question. I'm on the side of allowing it just because I think the top left of this draft board is hilarious. I don't think. I just love the way that looks That's ridiculous It's the same you guys just keep picking the same shit I've just learned
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah but who picked it first looks like me Nick and I should never be next to each other Toff ever again I feel like I'm looking at a shell game Where it's like I need to find the one different But they all kind of look the same I'm Coke, he's Pepsi Yeah this is very
Starting point is 00:24:00 This is very interesting Well Nick horsing around is on the board but we need to start the third round. Yeah, I'm so excited for whatever Nick's about to pick and whatever Gavin's going to pick right on top of it. There is a certain term that I love to use
Starting point is 00:24:15 when someone says some nonsense, and that is horseshit. Gavin, it's a sigh of defeat. Gavin, you made a sound. Well, it was obviously, it was going to be my next pick. Yeah! So you're talking about the lying version of horseshit, right? I'm talking about, yeah, they're not.
Starting point is 00:24:35 The one where you're like, that's a little horse shit. Whatever you're saying is nonsense. But you're not specifically talking about a pile of horse feces. I'm not. Oh, very interesting. Gavin, should we just jump right to you for your pick? As much as I want to, I would never allow that ever. All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Just making sure. I kind of want you to do it. I want you to do it. Nick has made his third pick here. We all sat quietly waiting for something to happen. It was rewind it and listen to the baited breath. It was very exciting. But now we go to Gavin
Starting point is 00:25:12 with his third pick in the horse, not horse draft. I've just realized that one of my picks just says horse. What am I talking about that? I think maybe you're thinking of the game horse? You need to cross that one out. You can't have that. It could be the game horse.
Starting point is 00:25:28 It could be, but below that, I've written Halo horse. Okay. I've confused myself. To be honest I'm just really bummed and thrown by not getting horseshit I should have picked that first instead of horse radish But uh you know I like animals
Starting point is 00:25:42 I like animals This guy likes fun This guy likes animals I like animals with interesting little quirks Like uh like the male version jizzing babies all over the ocean It's a seahorse Oh the seahorse
Starting point is 00:25:58 Very nice Good pick Fert Elizes the female And then for some reason and takes all the babies at some point. Don't really know too much about it, but it's cool. Cool, cool footage. The way that you start, like, you tee yourself up is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You know, I love fun. You know I like animals. There's no need for a transition. It's fantastic. I think it's so good. Guys, you know I like animals. You know how you're always. talk about how much I love animals.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I gotta. You know you was saying about me before I came. It loves fun. This guy fucking loves fun. Well, Seahorse is on the board now, and we go to me. I'm the dead center here in this draft in the middle. And guys, you know me. I love hair, and that's why with my pick, I'm going with the ponytail.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Wow. This is the. The number one hairstyle besides doing nothing. I would say it's doing nothing with your hair, and then if you have long hair, it is ponytail. So you have, those are, I mean, real close together, as far as top things you can do with your long, long hair is a ponytail. Thoughts?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Excellent. Yeah. It's a very known, like, we've allowed Mustang and Stallion. I genuinely didn't think of that one. That's a good one. That's outside the box that one. Is it a pony a horse? Oh, interesting question.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Is a pony a horse? Hold on. Is a pony? Okay, yeah, we're going to go ahead and let, yes. Hang on, hang on. Nobody else say anything. Nobody else say anything. Nick, if it's not a horse, what do you think it could be?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Zebra. Cool. Thanks for coming, man. Racing stripes. Well, like, yeah, is a zebra horse? That's a joke. Is a donkey a horse? Like, is a pony a horse?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Is a horse a pony Or a pony's a horse But a horse isn't a pony sort of thing A pony is a type of horse Listen Gavin I expect you to know this As the guy who likes animals Yeah but not all of them
Starting point is 00:28:13 Not all of them It's a real frog as a toad Wait no Toad is frog frog frog not toad He's like you know people like adults That hate kids Gavin is an animal lover Who hates ponies but loves horses He hates
Starting point is 00:28:31 ponies he thinks ponies are horseshit well ponytail is on the board and jeff you have your third pick we're getting close to rounding out the third round here guys you know that i like music i'm a big music guy everybody's talking about it all the time i i tend to come into the chat late and you guys are already having a discussion about how much i like music yep uh that happens constantly it feels like and so i'm gonna what i want to do with my draft today is continue to lose the audience. And so I'm going to pick a band that 99.82% of them have never heard. And if they had, they wouldn't like them anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But I started writing it, had to stop. Quite a bit. Eric knows who I'm talking about. I am picking the Doom Metal Band funeral horse. Funeral horse is on the board. Funeral horse. Cool as hell. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Hell yeah. Uh, that's a, that's a, uh, burn dog. Yeah, it's a band I found through burn dog, yeah. Yeah. For sure. What's, is there like a definitive funeral horse song? Oh, geez. Uh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Amputate the Hands of the Thieves is a good one. Executioner of Kings. That's a, that's a great one. It's a stoned and furious. I like that one. I hear the devil calling me. Uh, that's the album I have at least. until the nation falls until the last nation falls that's what it's called that's a good one i think
Starting point is 00:30:03 they're a texas band too so you know they might be from houston oh that's cool there you go so you get some uh you know local points way to go man funeral horse is i'm gonna i'm gonna note that this is a band just so nobody gets confused later uh which they will oh yeah yeah yeah but Andrew you have two picks so far and now you have your final two picks back to back the end of round three the beginning of round four in the horse not horse draft what are you going with i'm going with maybe the most hated horse situation in modern time oh very controversial i'd say as as uh angering to people as horse radish can be for some i am going with horse armor dLC from skyrim people who lost their god damn minds over the fact that they were going to have to pay three dollars for a horse
Starting point is 00:30:53 cosmetic in a video game. It was a huge outrage. And now you look at the modern landscape of how gaming works in its economy. People are spending $20 to look like Goku and Fortnite for one week. Like it doesn't matter. People were very up in arms about a thing
Starting point is 00:31:13 that eventually just came to be totally acceptable. But oh boy, did they hate the idea of buying horse arm. Was this the, I'm dropping a pick in. Is that it? Is that the horse armor? Dropping in the Discord there? I think it might be. I believe it is.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Okay. Oh, that's from Oblivion. Yeah, this was Oblivion, not Skyrim, right? The armor was Oblivion. The horse armor was from Oblivion. The thing is about this pick, though, is that it's about a horse. It is about a horse, yeah. It's about a horse.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It's about a horse. It's about a horse. It doesn't involve an actual horse. Yeah. I'm drafted. So I thought you're going to say this. So I was going to, like, break it up individually. I'm either draft.
Starting point is 00:31:53 armor for a horse to wear which is not a horse or I'm drafting DLC which is also not a horse I got you that's excellent point so is DLC a horse no the horse isn't the thing you get you get the armor yeah you get the armor for a horse
Starting point is 00:32:09 so I could just draft like a horse shoe oh I mean if you want you could just like draft horse radish the root yeah I guess it was not a horse radish that's off you You asked it in a very confused way.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You could draft a horseshoe. Yes, you could draft a horseshoe. It's not a horse. I mean, I think a horseshoe. It's a shoe for a horse. You could, horse hat. If somebody walked to you a horseshoe, would you ever say, get that horse out of here? Fine.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You're playing a game called horseshoes. Oh, shit. See, oh, that would wait. I think it works either way. I'm just, I'm confused about what you're confused about. this point. It feels like this definitely makes... I just don't know if it fully qualifies as not horse
Starting point is 00:32:59 when it's... It's horse related. Everything we're touching in this draft is horse-related man. Yeah, I don't... What's a horse-rush got to do with a horse? It's in the name. What's a horse? What's a seahorse got to do with a horse? What's in the name? Yeah. It's called the
Starting point is 00:33:15 fucking seahorse. They saw that creature and they said, holy shit, that looks like a horse in the water. I know a sea horse. You never see them together, though. The sea horse doesn't know what he could have a power hole. You've never seen them together. Do you think a horse knows what a horseshoe is?
Starting point is 00:33:35 You just, we said, you said horseshoe, and then you said horse hat, and I just want to, you just, I have to look at it. Is that the thumbnail? That's great. That should probably be the thumbnail for this, right? Yeah, probably. It was pretty good. It's a pretty good horse. Would you allow, like, would you allow horse fur?
Starting point is 00:33:56 Horse fur? That's not real. That's a part of a horse. What is horse fur? It's not real, is it? It's a terrible pick. Because it's horse hair. I just don't understand why this conversation wasn't had with horse power.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, exactly. Because the horse power is used for cars and stuff, and there's actually a horse nearby. Yeah, but it was named specifically in relation to horses. Yeah, I've seen horse play. It was named because horses play. But it doesn't mean there's a horse. horse when there's horse play. So if you bought a shirt, is that the same to you as like having a human?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Is that a person? If somebody, like when we bring shirts into, like if we import shirts, are you worried that we're human trafficking? I just think if it was human, not human, you wouldn't pick human shirt. I just don't think that'd be on your list. Yeah, because nobody says human shirt. It's not a turn of phrase. It's not a game people play.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Like, do you realize, you recognize between horse hat and horseshoe, right? Like, if you say horseshoe, 99 people out of 100 are going to be able to draw one from memory. If you say horse hat, 99 people are going to be like, what? Did Mr. Ed wear a hat? I don't know. I mean, probably in, like, an episode, but I think he's just, like, by and large, no. Maybe when he went out to town. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:35:24 That horse ain't a lot of peanut butter. Yeah, he did. Well, he's a happy horse. Horse Armour DLC from Oblivion is on the board, whether Gavin likes it or not, I guess. It's weird. I do feel a way about it, but I don't know. I don't even know if it's a good pick or a shit pick. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's good. Okay. I really just blew off both my feet with horse radish. my first pick that I just, I want to argue, but I should just keep my mouth shut for the rest of the trot. Well, the horse armor DLC is on the board. And Andrew, you're going to kick us off with the fourth and final round of the horse not horse draft. What is your fourth and final pick?
Starting point is 00:36:10 When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners, I started wondering. Is every fabulous item I see from winners? Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. Are those from winners? Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings? Did she pay full price? Or that leather tote? Or that cashmere sweater?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Or those knee-high boots? That dress, that jacket, those shoes. Is anyone paying full price for anything? Stop wondering. Start winning. Winners, find fabulous for less. My fourth and final pick is the thing that's always fun to see because you go, oh, oh!
Starting point is 00:36:46 And it's so lethal. It's illegal. I'm going with horse collar tackles. Oh, that's good in the NFL. I really like that one. Not on my list. Should have been.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I don't know what that is. What is that? It's when you grab somebody from like the back of their shoulder pads and pull them down. So you're not, you're not allowed to like grip and use your weight to like shove,
Starting point is 00:37:11 like it stops all their momentum. And it's still, it happens. You'll see it. And it's always like, oh, that was a horse collar. Yeah. See, I just drop.
Starting point is 00:37:20 a picture in the discord of it where a guy is getting brought down with a horse collar tackle and it's just imagine running as fast as you can and somebody yanks you cartoon style by the back of your shirt led to a lot of knee injuries so many a lot of injuries in general yeah yes it is it's an illegal move now the big no-no yeah interesting yep yeah you cool with that one yeah that's a great pick okay so even though it's talking about a horse's collar uh jeff You have your final pick. This is the fourth and final round. So what is your last horse
Starting point is 00:37:55 not horse pick? It's not actual horse is collar. You ever seen a horse wear a shirt? They do sometimes. Yeah, and oblivion. Yeah, and those have collars. Much like I think Andrew's earlier pick, somebody's earlier pick, this kind of horse
Starting point is 00:38:16 is a cautionary tale. It's not the kind of you want to receive. Maybe at first you think you do, but then when you peer behind the curtain, you realize that it was a mistake. I'm talking about, obviously, not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth. Oh.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Don't do it. Yeah. You shouldn't do that. You should not do that. Halitosis. Yeah. I think the phrase comes from like genuinely looking at a gift horse in the mouth
Starting point is 00:38:47 because that's how you could tell its health, right? Yes, exactly. Oh, I thought it was like a Trojan horse situation. You're saying if somebody gives you a giant wooden horse, don't look at what it's inside of it because it might be people? No, don't look in the mouth because it's just wooden teeth. Look in the butt. That's where the people are.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Oh, yeah. They were all over. Is it really not from ancient? No. Oh, okay. No, I'm pretty sure it is, I mean, it's probably a very old idiom, but I'm pretty sure it is about looking at like looking at a horse's teeth. in front of the person who's gifting you the horse
Starting point is 00:39:21 so you can, like, check its health? Yeah, it would be considered rude. You know? There were so many less things to gift people back then. Just like a horse is one of history's classic gifts, so I just assumed. I'm just imagining Gavin in a nearby town to when the, let's say the Trojan horse thing actually happened,
Starting point is 00:39:41 and Gavin is like sitting at the fire going, oh, that's what happens when you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Should have looked in it. I should have seen it. Trojan horse Well, not looking at gift horse In the mouth is Jeff's fourth and final pick My final pick
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm going to try for This is from This is my wife's suggestion She wanted me to call out that was my wife's suggestion I'm doing it here Because I'm going to drop it down And we'll see what happens In the horse not horse draft
Starting point is 00:40:18 My wife's pick The wanted me to pick was horse Hors? Hors. Uh-huh. Now, here's the thing. This was my wife's suggestion. What do you boys think of that pick? Well, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Hors. Is it horse? What? What? Well, it's got to be horse, right? But not horse. Yeah. Hors, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Is it horse? That was the thing that it kind of, kind of sounds like horse, or is it like, is it a word that is related to horses in some form? Yeah, I mean, you see it written right there. Is there a dialect where someone sounds like horse where they say, when it's horse? Yeah, I think most people probably. I don't think so. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:41:05 No. Gavin, how do you say it? What he just wrote, hores. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm struggling to see the connection. Hey, then you're right, you know, let me get it. off the board. I'll let Barbara know that her pick did not stand because
Starting point is 00:41:21 with that, and this is the thing I want you guys to get off, and that's your high horse. Oh, good one. Good one. Set us up there, you son of a bitch. That was good, though. That's good. That's real good. There you have it. Real funny. You know what? I tell you what? Put a horse back there.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I thought it was going to, like, turn out to be French for, like, Mustang. I have a follow-up question. for your wife? Sure. Are mermaids, sea whores? It's fucked up. Because I'd go for that if we were allowing your original thing. Why would that be what mermaids are?
Starting point is 00:42:11 I don't know about mermaids. Well, this one got away from us a little bit. Horse radish sauce and then horseradish made sure it started away from us. We like to have fun. Yeah, yeah. Everybody knows we like to have fun. Well, that's my fourth and final pick for the horse, not horse draft. And Gavin, what is your last pick?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Well, I love. I love watching gymnastics, right? And if there's anything... Yep, yep. You look at some people who flips and you think, bloody out, that looks impossible. I couldn't do that. You look at people farting about with that ribbon.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Couldn't do that either. But there's one thing I look at, and I think, I'm pretty sure I could do that. It's the frickin pommel horse. Yeah, the pommel horse is, I think... It looks like entry-level gymnastics. Yeah, I definitely don't think you could do it, but that's a great pick on this.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Definitely not. The bit where they swing their legs under the hands? Let's see it. We got to get you access to a pommel horse. You think you could swing your legs under your hands? How long do I have to try and master this? I just think you should just do it today. You said that it looked beginner.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I would say within 15 minutes of entering the location where it exists. Yeah. Oh, shit. Can I get 45? 45 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. Sure, why not?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, I mean, you're going to get worn out after like five minutes. So, I mean, you can have an hour if you'd like. I'll take the hour, yeah. You would be so exhausted trying to do this within five minutes. You would be exhausted. There's no fucking way. Maybe look it stronger as it goes. No, there's not.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean, you got to admit, though, it does look easy than some of the other stuff. No, I don't know. It's all, I think it's all brutal. It doesn't look. easier than the ribbon. I'm just trying to picture Gavin being on one hand as he swings his legs around his side, like... You're really briefly on one hand, though.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's just momentum, really. Right, and I don't think you can briefly be on one hand. I think it's so tough. I think it's incredibly tough. You might be right. I feel like I remember when GSP was fighting, he would do gymnastics for like core and balance, and he would vocalize that it was like the most physically exhausting thing he would do in training.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Well, how many leg laps am I doing of my humble horse? You know what? I think as many as you can. Yeah, I think you have to prove that it's an easy thing by doing as many as you can, whether that is one or 100. Can I make a quick aside on things that we can't do that I was thinking about last night? Absolutely. That I'd love for you guys to do.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I was watching racing. And I thought, it would be so goddamn funny to see the four of you work a pit. Try to change tires fast as you can. Oh, my God. That would be very cool. I would love that. That would be phenomenal. Oh, there's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's a good idea. Oh, boy. Well, Pummel Horse is on the board. That's Gavin's fourth and final pick. I wonder if there's something that Nick could steal from that. Either way, Nick has the final pick here in the horse not horse draft. No, it is on my list. But you guys know me.
Starting point is 00:45:43 You know, I love to have fun. You know, I like a little bit of word play. Uh-huh. So I'm going with horse, which is the act of sounding rough or harsh, typically as the result of a sore throat or shouting. Yeah, I had that on my list. That's a good one. I had horse voice. Yeah, horse throat.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Horse throat. Horse throat. We're pretty good. Horse. If somebody would have drafted other horse armor, Gavin would have this. Well, there you have it. This is the horse not horse draft. We've done it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 We've picked all the horse not horses. Here's Nick's selection. It might sound similar to Gavin's. Horse radish sauce. Horsing around. Horse shit and horse throat, her voice. Gavin, horse radish, horse play. Seahorse and pommel horse.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I have chosen the 1965 Ford Mustang, Italian stallion. 1970. Ponytail and your high horse. Jeff has chosen Gary Delabate, Michael Horse, Funeral Horse, the band, and not looking a gift horse in the mouth. And finally, Andrew has chosen Horse, the game. Horse Power, Horse Armour, DLC from Oblivion, and Horse Collar Tackles. That is the Horse Not Horse Draft, but boys, what are your honorable mentions? What didn't make the list? I have one that I was really disappointed. I couldn't
Starting point is 00:47:17 use because I misremembered their name. In the movie Antichrist, Willem DeFoe had a stunt penis, had a stand in a body double, and I thought his name was horse, and I went back and confirmed, and it's horsed. So it's not how to use it. But I was so excited when I remembered his horse penis potential thing.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I had to scour YouTube trying to find the interview where he talked about it and was so disappointed. It was so close. Most of mine got picked. I think the only one I see that that no one picked was a clothes horse. I'm sorry?
Starting point is 00:47:51 What? A clothes horse? Clothes horse. What the hell is that? What is a clothes horse? You dry your clothes on it. You hang clothes on it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Clothing line? Oh, I've never, I've never seen. Oh. I mean, I've seen these. I didn't know there was like a term for it. Yeah. It's like a vertical. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I didn't know that I have one of those. I didn't know that's what it was called. Oh, what do you call it? Drying rack. Yeah, drying rack. Yeah. Drying rack, place where I put my laundry. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:16 No, that's cool. I didn't know that. I have OJ's Bronco, the Denver Broncos. I also have I was wondering if this would fit or not, but I decided ultimately
Starting point is 00:48:31 to leave it off the list because I didn't feel that strongly about it. Centars? That's a great one. Right? It felt good, but I didn't love it
Starting point is 00:48:42 when I had so many other things to choose from, but is definitely on my list. Oh, one horse town was another one that I had. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, these are, these are horse things. I had, uh, I had mule because they're, it's true.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I mean, yeah, it is, it's, it is both a horse and not a horse. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Uh, and then I had Charlie horse. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's pretty good. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:08 That one, though, it's funny because I didn't realize this, but I guess the term originated in the 80s, or this is what they alleged anyway, that baseball players named those, leg cramps after a horse named Charlie that helped the groundskeepers where the white socks played. What the fuck? I was like oh, cool, whatever. History, I guess, maybe. Interesting. I still had
Starting point is 00:49:28 six. I had a hobby horse, a saw horse. The phrase, that's horse feathers. Oh, that's pretty good. The movie, the western movie, a man called horse. This thing that my father-in-law got very excited about and told me all about when I was explaining what we were doing today.
Starting point is 00:49:45 There's this place in the ocean called the horse latitudes where the water's really still and the horse horses on ships like it and then this one which I thought was not going to fly but I wanted to try it anyway the TV show put it in the
Starting point is 00:49:59 Discord round out Shorzy which you should spell without the word horse Yeah it's pretty good Yeah pretty good But that was I mean horse is the same thing Isn't it? Yeah well much Okay What about isn't horse apple a thing?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah horse yeah who picked horse apple Wait, so there's a horse apple and a crab apple Wonder what other animal apples Whoa, animal apples Whoa, crazy Apple, not apple Um
Starting point is 00:50:24 Horse apples's fucking ugly Anyone else? Any other honorable mentions? I was surprised when I picked horse shit Gavin didn't go with horse hockey Hmm I don't even know what that is Is that the same thing as horse shit?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah, I was gonna say I don't think that's probably a phrase He's ever heard It's like the same thing Yeah Wow There you go, horse apple Wow, it's hideous
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah Well boys, that's the horse not horse draft Thank you for listening. Don't forget, we'll have a poll up and you can let us know who had the best horse not horse list. If you vote for Nick or Gavin, you're half of their list is the same thing. They're different. A vote for one of them is a vote for both of them, I suppose. Thank you so much for watching, patreon.com slash the regulation pod. Also check out our YouTube channels where we have the podcast go up on one and the other one is our gameplay. So if you're just seen this draft and
Starting point is 00:51:15 thought, wow, what interesting horse picks. Come watch us play Ultimate Chicken Horse. Another thing we could have drafted on this list. Oh, shit. We definitely could have. Yep, there you go. All right, boys, that's it. Horse Not Horse Draft.
Starting point is 00:51:27 How you feeling? Fantastic. Good. I'm fake galloping into victory. Okay. All right. We'll see you later. Thanks for, he's beating his table.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Thanks for listening. Bye.

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