Regulation Podcast - Horse Not Horse Draft
Episode Date: August 24, 2025A horse is a horse, of course, of course. And no one can talk to a horse of course. That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. He's a horse though so we can't draft him. AN EGG Horse n...ot horse draft coming your way. Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello and welcome to another piece of supplemental content.
Boy, am I excited for us and for you today because today is going to be one of those,
one of those magical experiences where we all get to share in something that's greater
than the sum of our parts because we are inventing and unleashing under the world to that,
but what?
The horse not horse draft.
It's okay.
Nick's going to edit that little flub out.
I don't think he's going to edit any of that.
I think that that's, I mean, that's absolutely you.
He's going to edit that bit right out, and then we'll be fine.
I'm really worried about this one.
Oh, you're worried.
I've just worried that all of my picks will get taken before I use it.
It's possible.
That is possible.
It is very, very possible with this one.
You better hope to go first.
Well, in order to go first, we must go to our regulation draft generator and randomize our names.
this horse not horse draft
where the pool is
horses that aren't horses
Is that how
I mean this was a Jeff idea
Oh I'm sorry this was a Gavin idea
Yeah it's a Gavin idea
Oh right sorry Gavin
Yeah but we can leave it to Jeff
To explain exactly what we're drafting
If that's okay
Yeah allow me a second to get into the mind
of Gavin real fast
When he when he birthed this idea
Into the universe and gifted us all
Yet again with his brilliance
I believe what Gatham was going for here
is a draft where we draft horses
that are not horses.
Yeah, it's weird that I'm so worried
about my own idea.
It's crazy how that looked out.
Listen, you got to be more confident in yourself.
Why do I do it to myself?
That's what I always say.
You're always saying that.
So I can throw out an example,
but then...
No need because I think that it will probably be
on the draft board.
I wouldn't do an example.
I don't know why you would do an example.
example. I don't know that we've ever done an example.
Well, he wanted me to explain what it was, and so I just want to make sure everybody understands.
Didn't feel like it needed an example in order to be explained.
Okay. Well, I don't think it needed to be explained because the title was the
explanation. Horses that aren't horses. Right. It made sense to me. I didn't elaborate in any way
when I explained. I just read the title of the draft. You're right. You didn't elaborate in any way.
I agree. And then I go, if I need to go further, I can give an example.
But I was like, whoa, hold on, back off.
Don't give an example, Jesus Christ.
Do I hear trotting?
Wait, is that trotting in it?
It can't be.
It's not a horse.
We're doing not horses.
It's horse-dog horse.
It has to be some other thing that's similar to a trot.
Speaking of trotting, my anus is clearing up.
Yeah.
How was the rest of your fish evening, Gavin?
It was a bad evening, but today we're solidifying,
and I don't think I've got the trots any longer.
Excellent.
There you go.
There's a trots.
How many times are we
randomizing names here
for horse, not horse?
Five.
Yeah, I think five
because for the letters,
horse.
That's what I was thinking.
And that's how many
legs the horse has.
There you go.
What?
Oh,
are you all right.
It is Andrew,
Nick, Eric, Jeff Gavin.
We randomized five times.
Here's one, two, three,
four,
which would be Eric, Nick, Jeff,
Andrew,
right where I belong,
the boring ass middle.
Keep me there!
And then here we go, five, Nick!
Yeah!
Eric, Jeff, Andrew, that is the order that we will be drafting.
Horse, not horse in.
Boys, it's time.
It's a horse is a horse of course.
So let's see what horse, not horse you pick.
Nick, we start with you.
Andrew, how do you feel about being at the end before we start?
Fantastic.
I feel great.
I feel like there's probably like seven or eight very obvious picks.
And I don't mind being in the back because I feel like I have two that
We'll be safe.
All right.
You got to get that Andrew level confidence, Gavin.
Yeah, dude.
Maybe next time.
I got my coconuts at my desk.
I'm holy grailing it.
I'm ready for this draft.
Let's do it.
I got my fake horse.
Before Nick goes, how many does everyone have?
Oh, that's a good question.
Let me see.
I've eight, ten.
10, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Andrew?
12.
I have 14.
Wow.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm so excited to see the honorable mentions, but we get started.
Before we get to honorable mentions, we have to get
actual mentions, and that would be
with our first rap pick.
Well, I'm going with something that is
very near and dear to me, which is
horseradish sauce or
horsey sauce as it's known.
It goes well with roast beef.
Horse radish first overall?
I'm sorry, are you questioning me?
I just feel it's a very divisive
horse-not horse.
I feel like there are people that absolutely
hate horseradish.
Horse radish is absolutely
tremendous and would have been my first
pick. It's dog shit.
It's amazing. First off,
you can't stand it and make it. Oh,
you hate white things. Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Well, Jeff, let me just say, you're missing
out. It is truly a treat
on certain seafoods.
You can diet green and pretend it's wasabi.
You could
also do that. I
feel I most engage with horseradish
in honey mustard and sometimes it's just like
not the feel. You most
engage with horseradish?
Is that what you said?
What does that mean?
Because there are certain honey
Mustards that have horse radish
in them.
Yeah, which gives it a nice pep.
No, but I'm saying
that's not a universal
across every honey mustard.
There are just some variants
that use horse radish
and sometimes it's a bit much.
It could be a bit much.
I'm sure all the
all the radish heads out there
are going to go crazy over this first pick.
I just, I think it's divisive.
Your first pick,
because you said specifically
horser radish saw it,
Is it horseradish or horseradish sauce?
The sauce.
Okay.
I'm just making sure.
I just want to make sure I'm being thorough here.
Was horseradish one that everyone had on their list?
No, because I knew it was going to get picked.
Yeah, I had it.
I had it as horsy sauce.
Yeah.
Specifically from Arby's, but it's the same thing, so I can't.
It is the same thing, but the horsy sauce is better than some just horse radish sauces.
I just don't know why they changed the name to horsey sauce.
Nay.
I've never even seen.
Horses sauce.
I don't know.
Great explanation, man.
You guys should,
you guys are going to be great on vaudeville later.
Oh, man.
Well, horse radish sauce is off the board.
And now we go to Gavin,
international pick here.
Gavin, what is your first choice
in the horse not horse draft?
I feel like I'm going to,
that was going to be my first pick,
but I feel like I'm going to take a page out of Nick's book
and go with horseradish,
just horse radish.
Yeah.
So you're just going to copy Nick?
No, no, no, no, I'm not going to dilute it.
That's next book, though. Every choice he makes is a copy of yours.
Yep. Yep.
Gavin, I respect the move.
You do?
Yeah, it's my fucking move.
There's a reason he loves it.
He went, shit, I should do that.
How do you feel about it being used against you?
I mean, horse radish sauce is superior to the original horseradish, so use it if you want.
I feel like, you can't make horserogish sauce without horseradish, and you can use
horseradish in other ways.
What are the other ways that you can use horseradish?
Yeah, tell me how.
You bathe with it?
What do you do?
Well, pretend wasabi.
You can grate it.
You can put it in a, you know,
I meant like what other dishes can you make?
And Nick said, bathe with it.
Yeah, I mean, I'm curious where he's going with it.
Want to smell spicy?
Dig it up out of the ground?
That's what I picked.
There you go.
Excellent, you could dig it up.
Excellent.
It's a key ingredient in,
in like 80% of the spells and charmed.
That's true.
And you can't dig up the sauce.
I mean, if you drop it, you can't.
If you drop it so hard, it goes underground.
It might be if I fall into a hole.
What is happening?
Okay, well, horseradish sauce and horse radish are both off the board.
Did anyone just have horseradish by itself?
Nope.
Nope.
I did.
I sort of viewed them as one and the same.
Yeah.
It's my bid, Gavin.
I had it.
Of course I had it.
So if I didn't drafted that, you would have next drafted horse radish.
Yeah, probably.
Depending on what's left.
Yeah.
Might have saved it for the end.
It would have been horse radish sauce,
and then his second pick would have been just horse radish the thing, the root.
No, I'd have closed that with it.
And then his third pick would have been horse and his fourth pick would have been radish.
This fifth thing with sauce.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'm the next pick, and I'm definitely getting away from this root, this edible thing,
because I am going very specific with the 1965 Ford Mustang.
Oh.
That's very interesting.
I wasn't sure if we were going to allow this.
Incredible year for the car.
Incredible look.
That is truly an impressive motor vehicle.
the Ford Mustang
is my horse
not horse
why would we not allow it
how is that a horse or not a horse
well because Mustang is a horse
yeah and it's not
I just I wasn't sure if everything needed
horse in it
what is the confusion
it doesn't have the word horse in it
why would it have to have the word
horse it's a Mustang
which is a horse
I'm not saying what you're
I just wasn't sure
you are saying you're the one who brought it up
You're this is your fault you don'ts no everybody's an agreement and I feel like I'm the one pushing the least
Dickhead I'm just saying
I thought everything
I'm like Eric come on your side I'm just saying I wasn't sure everybody
I want a horse not horse to have all the horses
I hate when you're on my side
this is here a fucking
I wasn't even against it I just said I wasn't sure
to bring it up at all in psychotic.
Just because I brought it up
doesn't mean everybody else wasn't thinking it.
There's a fucking parade of people behind me.
What did you think was going to happen?
Andrew, thank you.
They're all possible of their own thought.
Andrew, thank you for the clarity
that you brought to this draft
because it helps inform my next choice.
It's really, yeah.
It really, it really helped.
Thanks, man.
thanks for being on my side.
I appreciate it.
I just, I vocalized it.
I really thought the parade of people behind me
that seemed to be more concerned about it
would have more to say,
but they didn't apparently.
I'm very aware that you vocalized it.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.
That's awesome.
I liked it.
I, uh,
I really do appreciate it,
Andrew.
Thank you.
I have the same question.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like that pick.
I don't get it.
is shit.
No care.
It is not for us to judge, Gavin, but...
I feel like, kind of it, mostly it is.
You know what?
I take it back.
I mean, it's fine.
You're wrong.
It's a horse, not horse.
The 1965 Ford Mustang
on the list, number one with a bullet.
A Mustang is a horse.
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, but I feel like there's a spirit to this thing.
I mean, if a Mustang's a horse...
You pick the same...
The first two picks.
are the same thing
They're different
There's a sport to this thing
Oh I'm gonna go with one
And I'm gonna go with one A
All right right right on man cool
Now they're different though
They're different Jeff you have your first pick
In the horse not horse draft
God damn you guys got me a little scared to pick now
But I'm gonna go ahead and take
Go out on a limb here
I'm gonna pick the original
Horse Tooth jackass Gary Delabate
We established through Eric that it doesn't have to have the worst horse in it.
But even if it did, that's his name, horse-tooth jackass.
He's a horse, not a horse.
Andrew, who side are you on?
I just, I mean, I think it's a wild pick.
I do feel, I'd like to hear the other people's thoughts that were like, I don't know if I have enough picks.
How you feel it now about your picks and that you're going to have run out?
I've got an abundance of picks.
Yeah, I, I, I'm rich.
I am rich in picks.
If you guys don't want me to use it, I got plenty.
No, no, no, it's fine.
No, no, no, I think that's so, like, I would never consider that.
No, no, I think it's great.
I will say, I'm not saying that you shouldn't pick them, because I think it's, I think
horse shoe jackass is great.
However, when I think of Gary, uh, I do think of his, uh, other animal for son of the
techno beaver.
A techno beaver.
Yeah, that's me personally.
I just wanted to get as much, as much mouth as possible in the image.
Um, you do.
Definitely got it.
Just for the record, I have, that's the only one, only pick I have that doesn't have the word horse in the title.
So I'm happy to switch it out.
That's what I was going to ask, because did any of our rocks, not rocks, not have rocks in the, what?
Did it not have rocks in the title, in the pick?
Oh.
Yeah, all mine had rock.
I think all mine had rock.
I don't remember my picks.
I don't remember.
Great.
Well, moving on, Andrew, your first, you actually have two.
two picks here. You have the last pick
of the first round and the first pick of the second round. So Andrew
back to back picks, what you got? It's, I didn't expect to be
in this position of some of the things available. I'm shot, I'm going to go
with my first overall pick, if I was going first, one of my favorite
games at recess, one of my favorite pieces of achievement
hunter content, I'm picking horse. Nice. The game
horse. Ah, that's great.
It's a great one. It was on my list, too.
Taking basketball shots, watching videos, and then eventually you guys got tired of doing so many,
so you change it to the pig, reduce the amount of work you have to do.
I respect it. Is that right? Did you guys? I didn't know that. That's really funny.
We did Halo Pig and Trials Pig.
Yeah.
Halo Pig. I just love horse. It's a fun game.
Fond memories playing it. Fawn memories watching it near to my heart. It's a top horse, not horse.
You watched horse?
Oh, you just mean the videos?
Yeah, the videos, too.
I mean, I've also watched horses.
I don't know what you mean by like, what is horse to you.
Yeah, what does that mean?
What were you asking him?
I just imagined him at school just watching other people play horse.
No.
Okay.
I mean, maybe I did, but not like, wasn't like,
oh, let me put the chair down so I can observe some horse.
Let's have some fun.
It's been 30 minutes watching other people play horse.
That is my first pick.
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My second pick is I think once again
Another powerful horse
And just to me
It's a great
A great understanding of how stupid human brains are
It is horsepower
A measurement that was made
because the person that was trying to sell
like the idea of a device to move things for mining
they were like no we got horses for that
we don't need this and they're like well what if we say
it's worth 30 horses and they're like oh fuck you can do
30 horses with this thing hell yeah
bring me eight of them very dumb
I like it because it's still the measure
today yes
oh how many horsepower does that have
does that mean it's just like if you had
350 horses
they would go as fast as a car
that's awesome we gotta get
350 horses
it is incredibly stupid logic
but it's what ended up selling
it was like the engine thing they were doing
for helping moving mining
shit I feel great about my picks
I feel really good for the swing
they're great they're really good nice swing
well done you took a couple
yeah good shit excellent and you didn't even
have to pick horseradish in any way shape or
as we go to Jeff with his second pick here.
My second pick, I'm going to stay human, I think, with this pick.
I think this might be the only other human I have on the list.
But this one's a little bit more literal.
You may not know them by name, but you know them by the greatest character in Twin Peaks.
I'm talking about the actor Michael Horse, who played Deputy Hawk in Twin Peaks.
Oh, wow.
Michael Horse.
I didn't know that was a name.
I didn't know that was his name.
Michael Horse.
Coolest character in all of David Lynch's entire au revoir.
Wow.
And when he came back in his hair was all white, it looked epic.
Yeah, he looks really cool as fuck.
Yeah.
Michael Horse is a great pick in the Horse Not Horse Draft.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We're moving on.
I'm staying in the world of entertainment and cinema.
In the year, 1970, much was occurring.
But one thing prevailed above all.
and that was a young actor Sylvester Stallone
in a movie that I think he wishes never came out
and that would be Italian Stallion from 1970
Sylvester Stallone Star of Rocky goes X-rated
he plays stud and it is an X-rated film
that is readily available
Italian Stallion
Does he shag? Yeah I don't think that it's like
hardcore hardcore I've never seen Italian stallion
I don't need to watch Stud and Kitty
get into whatever they're getting into.
But, uh, yeah, this, this being a thing that has followed his career, his entire career,
has, uh, is very interesting to me to do something that early and then, uh, become Oscar
nominated, I believe for Rocky.
Oh, good for him.
Italian stallion.
Also a nickname, I think, for Rocky.
Yes, yeah.
He's the Italian, there you go.
Italian stallion, 1970 is my picking horse, not horse.
Uh, well done.
Yeah, you're fine with that one, but not the other one.
Whatever.
Gavin, go ahead.
You have your second pick for the horse, not horse draft.
Well, you know, I like fun.
I had a lot of fun as a kid.
Honestly, before you got here, that's what we were saying.
We were like, guys, when's Gavin getting here?
We know he likes fun.
Always been a lover of fun.
I've always been saying that.
Sometimes fun, it gets a little bit rowdy.
You sort of pranking each other, diving on each other.
Shoving each other.
It's horse play.
Horse play.
is good. That was on my list.
Horse play was on my list. Yeah, horseplay is good.
I wonder if people in the horse world
describe horse playing as horseplay.
Have horses ever horse played?
Yeah, I think horses can
muck about. Oh, they absolutely can.
I just, I wonder if anyone in, like, I wonder
if that's vernacular they use.
Oh, they're horse playing.
Maybe they call it human play. I think, don't they, like,
stand up on, like, their back legs and, like, kick at each other
and stuff? Oh, they kick at each other, they fuck around.
I just saw a video.
of a horse shoving a cat into a thing of water
just fun. What? Okay.
They have a good time. Yeah, it sounds
like the cat did too. Definitely horse play.
I mean, that's a definite horse play. I'm just curious
if people in the horse world ever
refer to horseplay as horseplay.
I think of like people doing it
typically, but I'm not around horses.
What do you think they would call it otherwise?
I don't know.
Stallion
battalion.
Okay. You think they have
you think they have another fun term that we just don't know
about. I think so. Yeah. Mustang, muckery, maybe.
They're muckering about. That might be my next thing. I don't know. Horse people, let me know.
Ever look at a bunch of horses and just got, ah, they're horse playing? Well, horseplay on the board,
and we round out the second round with Nick, and we start the third round with him as well. So Nick,
You got back-to-back picks here.
Back-to-back.
Well, I'm going to take a page from Gavin's book here.
Oh, shit.
I am going to go with horsing around.
Oh, good pick.
That was on my list.
Now, I have horsing around, but I had it as a horseplay slash horsing around.
Now, where to me they were the same thing.
Horsing around, though, is to engage in playful, boisterousness or sleep behavior similar to horseplay.
Explain.
how they're different in any way.
Like, explain something
that would be horsing around
but not horseplay.
That, thank you, yes.
People usually get hurt
when you're horsing around.
No, people can get hurt in horseplay.
But horseplay is much more fun base.
I think people, yeah,
are you saying no one gets hurt in horseplay?
I think horseplay becomes horsing around
when someone gets hurt.
I mean, I hate to,
as someone who picked horseradish
after horse radish sauce,
I'm still going to go in on this
and say you've just picked exactly what mine was.
I don't think so.
I'd like to bring Google into this
if I could for a second.
Yes, please do.
Google says while both horseplay and horsing around
describe boisterous playful behavior
horse play often implies a level of roughhousing
or even dangerous activity
whereas horsing around can range from mild
silliness to more energetic but still relatively harmless play
get horsed
well that's the opposite of what Nick said then
well then I'm wrong but also it doesn't matter
because it's different
get horse Gavin
I just need to know just before
because it sounds like we're probably going to, like, let this one in.
Oh, after horseradish, we should.
Don't, again, you didn't have a problem with horseradish.
I didn't, Mr. Mustang.
I just want to, you, and you didn't have a problem with Italian style.
Again, you're just so all over the place.
But what I want to know is where, who, I want to know whose side Andrew is on.
Oh, good question.
I'm on the side of allowing it just because I think the top left of this draft board is hilarious.
I don't think.
I just love the way that looks
That's ridiculous
It's the same you guys just keep picking the same shit
I've just learned
Yeah but who picked it first looks like me
Nick and I should never be next to each other
Toff ever again
I feel like I'm looking at a shell game
Where it's like I need to find the one different
But they all kind of look the same
I'm Coke, he's Pepsi
Yeah this is very
This is very interesting
Well
Nick
horsing around is on the board
but we need to start the third round.
Yeah, I'm so excited for whatever Nick's about to pick
and whatever Gavin's going to pick right on top of it.
There is a certain term that I love to use
when someone says some nonsense,
and that is horseshit.
Gavin, it's a sigh of defeat.
Gavin, you made a sound.
Well, it was obviously, it was going to be my next pick.
Yeah!
So you're talking about the lying version of horseshit, right?
I'm talking about, yeah, they're not.
The one where you're like, that's a little horse shit.
Whatever you're saying is nonsense.
But you're not specifically talking about a pile of horse feces.
I'm not.
Oh, very interesting.
Gavin, should we just jump right to you for your pick?
As much as I want to, I would never allow that ever.
All right, all right, all right.
Just making sure.
I kind of want you to do it.
I want you to do it.
Nick has made his third pick here.
We all sat quietly waiting for something to happen.
It was rewind it and listen to the baited breath.
It was very exciting.
But now we go to Gavin
with his third pick in the horse, not horse draft.
I've just realized that one of my picks
just says horse.
What am I talking about that?
I think maybe you're thinking of the game horse?
You need to cross that one out.
You can't have that.
It could be the game horse.
It could be, but below that, I've written Halo horse.
Okay.
I've confused myself.
To be honest
I'm just really bummed and thrown by not getting
horseshit I should have picked that first instead of horse radish
But uh you know
I like animals
I like animals
This guy likes fun
This guy likes animals
I like animals with interesting little quirks
Like uh like the male version
jizzing babies all over the ocean
It's a seahorse
Oh the seahorse
Very nice
Good pick
Fert Elizes the female
And then for some reason
and takes all the babies at some point.
Don't really know too much about it, but it's cool.
Cool, cool footage.
The way that you start, like, you tee yourself up is so interesting.
You know, I love fun.
You know I like animals.
There's no need for a transition.
It's fantastic.
I think it's so good.
Guys, you know I like animals.
You know how you're always.
talk about how much I love animals.
I gotta.
You know you was saying about me before I came.
It loves fun.
This guy fucking loves fun.
Well, Seahorse is on the board now, and we go to me.
I'm the dead center here in this draft in the middle.
And guys, you know me.
I love hair, and that's why with my pick, I'm going with the ponytail.
Wow.
This is the.
The number one hairstyle besides doing nothing.
I would say it's doing nothing with your hair,
and then if you have long hair, it is ponytail.
So you have, those are, I mean, real close together,
as far as top things you can do with your long, long hair is a ponytail.
Thoughts?
Excellent.
Yeah.
It's a very known, like, we've allowed Mustang and Stallion.
I genuinely didn't think of that one.
That's a good one.
That's outside the box that one.
Is it a pony a horse?
Oh, interesting question.
Is a pony a horse?
Hold on.
Is a pony?
Okay, yeah, we're going to go ahead and let, yes.
Hang on, hang on.
Nobody else say anything.
Nobody else say anything.
Nick, if it's not a horse, what do you think it could be?
Zebra.
Cool.
Thanks for coming, man.
Racing stripes.
Well, like, yeah, is a zebra horse?
That's a joke.
Is a donkey a horse?
Like, is a pony a horse?
Is a horse a pony
Or a pony's a horse
But a horse isn't a pony sort of thing
A pony is a type of horse
Listen Gavin
I expect you to know this
As the guy who likes animals
Yeah but not all of them
Not all of them
It's a real frog as a toad
Wait no
Toad is frog frog frog not toad
He's like you know people like adults
That hate kids Gavin is an animal lover
Who hates ponies but loves horses
He hates
ponies he thinks ponies are horseshit well ponytail is on the board and jeff you have your third
pick we're getting close to rounding out the third round here guys you know that i like music
i'm a big music guy everybody's talking about it all the time i i tend to come into the chat late
and you guys are already having a discussion about how much i like music yep uh that happens
constantly it feels like and so i'm gonna what i want to do with my draft today is
continue to lose the audience.
And so I'm going to pick a band that 99.82% of them have never heard.
And if they had, they wouldn't like them anyway.
But I started writing it, had to stop.
Quite a bit.
Eric knows who I'm talking about.
I am picking the Doom Metal Band funeral horse.
Funeral horse is on the board.
Funeral horse.
Cool as hell.
Very cool.
Hell yeah.
Uh, that's a, that's a, uh, burn dog.
Yeah, it's a band I found through burn dog, yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
What's, is there like a definitive funeral horse song?
Oh, geez.
Uh, let's see.
Amputate the Hands of the Thieves is a good one.
Executioner of Kings.
That's a, that's a great one.
It's a stoned and furious.
I like that one.
I hear the devil calling me.
Uh, that's the album I have at least.
until the nation falls until the last nation falls that's what it's called that's a good one i think
they're a texas band too so you know they might be from houston oh that's cool there you go so you get
some uh you know local points way to go man funeral horse is i'm gonna i'm gonna note that this is a
band just so nobody gets confused later uh which they will oh yeah yeah yeah but Andrew you have two
picks so far and now you have your final two picks back to back the end of round three the
beginning of round four in the horse not horse draft what are you going with i'm going with maybe
the most hated horse situation in modern time oh very controversial i'd say as as uh angering to people
as horse radish can be for some i am going with horse armor dLC from skyrim people who lost
their god damn minds over the fact that they were going to have to pay three dollars for a horse
cosmetic in a video game.
It was a huge outrage.
And now you look at the modern landscape
of how gaming works in its economy.
People are spending $20 to look like Goku and Fortnite
for one week.
Like it doesn't matter.
People were very up in arms about a thing
that eventually just came to be totally acceptable.
But oh boy, did they hate the idea of buying horse arm.
Was this the, I'm dropping a pick in.
Is that it?
Is that the horse armor?
Dropping in the Discord there?
I think it might be.
I believe it is.
Okay.
Oh, that's from Oblivion.
Yeah, this was Oblivion, not Skyrim, right?
The armor was Oblivion.
The horse armor was from Oblivion.
The thing is about this pick, though, is that it's about a horse.
It is about a horse, yeah.
It's about a horse.
It's about a horse.
It's about a horse.
It doesn't involve an actual horse.
Yeah.
I'm drafted.
So I thought you're going to say this.
So I was going to, like, break it up individually.
I'm either draft.
armor for a horse to wear
which is not a horse
or I'm drafting DLC
which is also not a horse
I got you that's excellent point so is
DLC a horse
no the horse isn't the thing you get you get the armor
yeah you get the armor for a horse
so I could just draft like
a horse shoe
oh I mean if you want you could just like draft
horse radish the root
yeah I guess it was not a horse radish
that's off
you
You asked it in a very confused way.
You could draft a horseshoe.
Yes, you could draft a horseshoe.
It's not a horse.
I mean, I think a horseshoe.
It's a shoe for a horse.
You could, horse hat.
If somebody walked to you a horseshoe, would you ever say, get that horse out of here?
Fine.
You're playing a game called horseshoes.
Oh, shit.
See, oh, that would wait.
I think it works either way.
I'm just, I'm confused about what you're confused about.
this point. It feels like this
definitely makes... I just don't know if it
fully qualifies as not horse
when it's... It's horse
related. Everything we're touching
in this draft is horse-related man.
Yeah, I don't...
What's a horse-rush got to do with a horse?
It's in the name. What's a
horse? What's a seahorse got to do with a horse?
What's in the name? Yeah. It's called the
fucking seahorse. They saw
that creature and they said, holy shit,
that looks like a horse in the water.
I know a sea horse.
You never see them together, though.
The sea horse doesn't know what he could have a power hole.
You've never seen them together.
Do you think a horse knows what a horseshoe is?
You just, we said, you said horseshoe, and then you said horse hat, and I just want to, you just, I have to look at it.
Is that the thumbnail?
That's great.
That should probably be the thumbnail for this, right?
Yeah, probably.
It was pretty good.
It's a pretty good horse.
Would you allow, like, would you allow horse fur?
Horse fur?
That's not real.
That's a part of a horse.
What is horse fur?
It's not real, is it?
It's a terrible pick.
Because it's horse hair.
I just don't understand why this conversation wasn't had with horse power.
Yeah, exactly.
Because the horse power is used for cars and stuff, and there's actually a horse nearby.
Yeah, but it was named specifically in relation to horses.
Yeah, I've seen horse play.
It was named because horses play.
But it doesn't mean there's a horse.
horse when there's horse play.
So if you bought a shirt, is that the same to you as like having a human?
Is that a person?
If somebody, like when we bring shirts into, like if we import shirts, are you worried that we're
human trafficking?
I just think if it was human, not human, you wouldn't pick human shirt.
I just don't think that'd be on your list.
Yeah, because nobody says human shirt.
It's not a turn of phrase.
It's not a game people play.
Like, do you realize, you recognize between horse hat and horseshoe, right?
Like, if you say horseshoe, 99 people out of 100 are going to be able to draw one from memory.
If you say horse hat, 99 people are going to be like, what?
Did Mr. Ed wear a hat?
I don't know.
I mean, probably in, like, an episode, but I think he's just, like, by and large, no.
Maybe when he went out to town.
That's what I was thinking.
That horse ain't a lot of peanut butter.
Yeah, he did.
Well, he's a happy horse.
Horse Armour DLC from Oblivion is on the board, whether Gavin likes it or not, I guess.
It's weird.
I do feel a way about it, but I don't know.
I don't even know if it's a good pick or a shit pick.
I just don't know.
It's good.
Okay.
I really just blew off both my feet with horse radish.
my first pick that I just, I want to argue, but I should just keep my mouth shut for the rest of the
trot.
Well, the horse armor DLC is on the board.
And Andrew, you're going to kick us off with the fourth and final round of the horse not horse draft.
What is your fourth and final pick?
When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners, I started wondering.
Is every fabulous item I see from winners?
Like that woman over there with the designer jeans.
Are those from winners?
Ooh, are those beautiful gold earrings?
Did she pay full price?
Or that leather tote?
Or that cashmere sweater?
Or those knee-high boots?
That dress, that jacket, those shoes.
Is anyone paying full price for anything?
Stop wondering.
Start winning.
Winners, find fabulous for less.
My fourth and final pick is the thing that's always fun to see because you go,
oh, oh!
And it's so lethal.
It's illegal.
I'm going with horse collar
tackles.
Oh, that's good in the NFL.
I really like that one.
Not on my list.
Should have been.
I don't know what that is.
What is that?
It's when you grab somebody
from like the back of their shoulder pads
and pull them down.
So you're not,
you're not allowed to like grip
and use your weight to like shove,
like it stops all their momentum.
And it's still,
it happens.
You'll see it.
And it's always like,
oh, that was a horse collar.
Yeah.
See, I just drop.
a picture in the discord of it where a guy is getting brought down with a horse collar
tackle and it's just imagine running as fast as you can and somebody yanks you cartoon style
by the back of your shirt led to a lot of knee injuries so many a lot of injuries in general yeah
yes it is it's an illegal move now the big no-no yeah interesting yep yeah you cool with that one
yeah that's a great pick okay so even though it's talking about a horse's collar uh jeff
You have your final
pick. This is the fourth
and final round. So what is your last horse
not horse pick? It's not actual horse
is collar.
You ever seen a horse wear a shirt?
They do sometimes.
Yeah, and oblivion.
Yeah, and those have collars.
Much like I think Andrew's earlier
pick, somebody's earlier pick, this kind of horse
is a cautionary tale. It's not the kind of
you want to receive.
Maybe at first you think you do,
but then when you peer behind the curtain,
you realize that it was a mistake.
I'm talking about, obviously,
not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Oh.
Don't do it.
Yeah.
You shouldn't do that.
You should not do that.
Halitosis.
Yeah.
I think the phrase comes from
like genuinely looking at a gift horse in the mouth
because that's how you could tell its health, right?
Yes, exactly.
Oh, I thought it was like a Trojan horse situation.
You're saying if somebody gives you a giant wooden horse,
don't look at what it's inside of it because it might be people?
No, don't look in the mouth because it's just wooden teeth.
Look in the butt.
That's where the people are.
Oh, yeah.
They were all over.
Is it really not from ancient?
No.
Oh, okay.
No, I'm pretty sure it is, I mean, it's probably a very old idiom,
but I'm pretty sure it is about looking at like looking at a horse's teeth.
in front of the person who's gifting you the horse
so you can, like, check its health?
Yeah, it would be considered rude.
You know?
There were so many less things to gift people back then.
Just like a horse is one of history's classic gifts,
so I just assumed.
I'm just imagining Gavin in a nearby town
to when the, let's say the Trojan horse thing actually happened,
and Gavin is like sitting at the fire going,
oh, that's what happens when you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
Should have looked in it.
I should have seen it.
Trojan horse
Well, not looking at gift horse
In the mouth is Jeff's fourth and final pick
My final pick
I'm going to try for
This is from
This is my wife's suggestion
She wanted me to call out that was my wife's suggestion
I'm doing it here
Because I'm going to drop it down
And we'll see what happens
In the horse not horse draft
My wife's pick
The wanted me to pick was horse
Hors? Hors.
Uh-huh.
Now, here's the thing.
This was my wife's suggestion.
What do you boys think of that pick?
Well, let me ask you this.
Hors.
Is it horse?
What?
What?
Well, it's got to be horse, right?
But not horse.
Yeah.
Hors, yeah.
Is it horse?
That was the thing that it kind of,
kind of sounds like horse, or is it like, is it a word that is related to horses in some form?
Yeah, I mean, you see it written right there.
Is there a dialect where someone sounds like horse where they say, when it's horse?
Yeah, I think most people probably.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No.
Gavin, how do you say it?
What he just wrote, hores.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I'm struggling to see the connection.
Hey, then you're right, you know, let me get it.
off the board. I'll let Barbara know that her pick
did not stand because
with that, and this is the thing I want
you guys to get off, and that's your high horse.
Oh, good
one. Good one.
Set us up there, you son
of a bitch. That was good, though. That's good. That's real
good. There you have it. Real funny.
You know what? I tell you what? Put a horse back there.
I thought it was going to, like, turn out to be French
for, like, Mustang.
I have a follow-up question.
for your wife? Sure.
Are mermaids, sea whores?
It's fucked up.
Because I'd go for that if we were allowing your original thing.
Why would that be what mermaids are?
I don't know about mermaids.
Well, this one got away from us a little bit.
Horse radish sauce and then horseradish made sure it started away from us.
We like to have fun.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody knows we like to have fun.
Well, that's my fourth and final pick for the horse, not horse draft.
And Gavin, what is your last pick?
Well, I love.
I love watching gymnastics, right?
And if there's anything...
Yep, yep.
You look at some people who flips and you think,
bloody out, that looks impossible.
I couldn't do that.
You look at people farting about with that ribbon.
Couldn't do that either.
But there's one thing I look at, and I think,
I'm pretty sure I could do that.
It's the frickin pommel horse.
Yeah, the pommel horse is, I think...
It looks like entry-level gymnastics.
Yeah, I definitely don't think you could
do it, but that's a great pick on this.
Definitely not.
The bit where they swing their legs under the hands?
Let's see it.
We got to get you access to a pommel horse.
You think you could swing your legs under your hands?
How long do I have to try and master this?
I just think you should just do it today.
You said that it looked beginner.
I would say within 15 minutes of entering the location where it exists.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Can I get 45?
45 minutes?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure, why not?
Yeah, I mean, you're going to get worn out after like five minutes.
So, I mean, you can have an hour if you'd like.
I'll take the hour, yeah.
You would be so exhausted trying to do this within five minutes.
You would be exhausted.
There's no fucking way.
Maybe look it stronger as it goes.
No, there's not.
I mean, you got to admit, though, it does look easy than some of the other stuff.
No, I don't know.
It's all, I think it's all brutal.
It doesn't look.
easier than the ribbon.
I'm just trying to picture Gavin being on one hand as he swings his legs around his
side, like...
You're really briefly on one hand, though.
It's just momentum, really.
Right, and I don't think you can briefly be on one hand.
I think it's so tough.
I think it's incredibly tough.
You might be right.
I feel like I remember when GSP was fighting, he would do gymnastics for like core
and balance, and he would vocalize that it was like the most physically exhausting thing
he would do in training.
Well, how many leg laps am I doing of my humble horse?
You know what?
I think as many as you can.
Yeah, I think you have to prove that it's an easy thing by doing as many as you can, whether
that is one or 100.
Can I make a quick aside on things that we can't do that I was thinking about last night?
Absolutely.
That I'd love for you guys to do.
I was watching racing.
And I thought, it would be so goddamn funny to see the four of you work a pit.
Try to change tires fast as you can.
Oh, my God.
That would be very cool.
I would love that.
That would be phenomenal.
Oh, there's a really good one.
That's a good idea.
Oh, boy.
Well, Pummel Horse is on the board.
That's Gavin's fourth and final pick.
I wonder if there's something that Nick could steal from that.
Either way, Nick has the final pick here in the horse not horse draft.
No, it is on my list.
But you guys know me.
You know, I love to have fun.
You know, I like a little bit of word play.
Uh-huh.
So I'm going with horse, which is the act of sounding rough or harsh, typically as the result of a sore throat or shouting.
Yeah, I had that on my list.
That's a good one.
I had horse voice.
Yeah, horse throat.
Horse throat.
Horse throat.
We're pretty good.
Horse.
If somebody would have drafted other horse armor, Gavin would have this.
Well, there you have it.
This is the horse not horse draft.
We've done it.
We've picked all the horse not horses.
Here's Nick's selection.
It might sound similar to Gavin's.
Horse radish sauce.
Horsing around.
Horse shit and horse throat, her voice.
Gavin, horse radish, horse play.
Seahorse and pommel horse.
I have chosen the 1965 Ford Mustang, Italian stallion.
1970. Ponytail and your high horse. Jeff
has chosen Gary Delabate, Michael Horse, Funeral
Horse, the band, and not looking a gift horse in the mouth.
And finally, Andrew has chosen Horse, the game. Horse Power, Horse Armour, DLC
from Oblivion, and Horse Collar Tackles. That is the Horse Not Horse Draft, but
boys, what are your honorable mentions? What didn't make the list?
I have one that I was really disappointed. I couldn't
use because I misremembered their name.
In the movie Antichrist, Willem DeFoe had a stunt penis,
had a stand in a body double,
and I thought his name was horse,
and I went back and confirmed, and it's horsed.
So it's not how to use it.
But I was so excited when I remembered his horse penis
potential thing.
I had to scour YouTube trying to find the interview
where he talked about it and was so disappointed.
It was so close.
Most of mine got picked.
I think the only one I see that
that no one picked
was a clothes horse.
I'm sorry?
What?
A clothes horse?
Clothes horse.
What the hell is that?
What is a clothes horse?
You dry your clothes on it.
You hang clothes on it.
Oh.
Clothing line?
Oh, I've never, I've never seen.
Oh.
I mean, I've seen these.
I didn't know there was like a term for it.
Yeah.
It's like a vertical.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know that I have one of those.
I didn't know that's what it was called.
Oh, what do you call it?
Drying rack.
Yeah, drying rack.
Yeah.
Drying rack, place where I put my laundry.
Oh, okay.
No, that's cool.
I didn't know that.
I have OJ's Bronco,
the Denver Broncos.
I also have
I was wondering
if this would fit or not,
but I decided ultimately
to leave it off the list
because I didn't feel that strongly
about it.
Centars?
That's a great one.
Right?
It felt good,
but I didn't love it
when I had so many other things
to choose from,
but is definitely
on my list.
Oh, one horse town was another one that I had.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, these are, these are horse things.
I had, uh, I had mule because they're, it's true.
I mean, yeah, it is, it's, it is both a horse and not a horse.
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
Uh, and then I had Charlie horse.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Mm-hmm.
That one, though, it's funny because I didn't realize this, but I guess the term originated in the 80s,
or this is what they alleged anyway, that baseball players named those,
leg cramps after a horse named Charlie
that helped the groundskeepers where the
white socks played.
What the fuck? I was like
oh, cool, whatever. History, I guess, maybe.
Interesting. I still had
six. I had a hobby horse,
a saw horse.
The phrase, that's horse feathers.
Oh, that's pretty good.
The movie, the western movie,
a man called horse. This thing that
my father-in-law got very excited about and told me
all about when I was explaining what we were doing today.
There's this place in the ocean
called the horse latitudes where
the water's really still
and the horse horses on ships like it
and then this one which I thought was
not going to fly but I wanted to try it anyway
the TV show
put it in the
Discord round out Shorzy
which you should spell without the word horse
Yeah it's pretty good
Yeah pretty good
But that was I mean horse is the same thing
Isn't it? Yeah well much
Okay
What about isn't horse apple a thing?
Yeah
horse yeah who picked horse apple
Wait, so there's a horse apple and a crab apple
Wonder what other animal apples
Whoa, animal apples
Whoa, crazy
Apple, not apple
Um
Horse apples's fucking ugly
Anyone else?
Any other honorable mentions?
I was surprised when I picked horse shit
Gavin didn't go with horse hockey
Hmm
I don't even know what that is
Is that the same thing as horse shit?
Yeah, I was gonna say
I don't think that's probably a phrase
He's ever heard
It's like the same thing
Yeah
Wow
There you go, horse apple
Wow, it's hideous
Yeah
Well boys, that's the horse not horse draft
Thank you for
listening. Don't forget, we'll have a poll up and you can let us know who had the best horse
not horse list. If you vote for Nick or Gavin, you're half of their list is the same thing.
They're different. A vote for one of them is a vote for both of them, I suppose. Thank you so much
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Come watch us play Ultimate Chicken Horse.
Another thing we could have drafted on this list.
Oh, shit.
We definitely could have.
Yep, there you go.
All right, boys, that's it.
Horse Not Horse Draft.
How you feeling?
Fantastic.
Good.
I'm fake galloping into victory.
Okay.
All right.
We'll see you later.
Thanks for, he's beating his table.
Thanks for listening.
Bye.