Regulation Podcast - More/Less Annoying Now // Geoff is Back on Hot Dogs [70]
Episode Date: September 10, 2025Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about Black Hawk Down, William Fitchner, laid low at RT, "I'm on your side," no one's advocate, Costco life hack, fart ninjas, pizza bones, bird confidence, wings, salt & ...pepper, a different 5, sleep deprivation, Earthshaker High Score, bingo dog, Geoff injury, extracting the fun, done with fries, Shania Twain, 1080p popcorn, Scorpio Sky, Creating Character podcast, and movie theater popcorn. Sponsored by Shopify. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/face Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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hello and welcome to another episode of the regulation podcast this is episode 70
my name is jeff ramsie with me as always and jayton gavin free eric baddur nick schwartz
hello hello howdy um quick questions just before we get started i guess oh okay
andrew did unmute i was wondering if andrew knew that he was muted or if it was a thing
where it was tactical no tactical well tactical mute whoa i didn't consider the tactical mute
I try to stay muted so that way you guys just kind of go, but that's...
Well, ever since I've hit the sands, the Mogadishu,
I've been thinking tactically, Eric, in just a general sense.
This is a Blackhawk Down thing?
This game, we're going to have the gameplay.
So this episode comes out on the 10th.
The gameplay for Black Hawk Down will come out on the 13th this Saturday.
Oh, my God.
All sacrifices will be remembered.
It's all you got to know.
This is an Xbox game?
Yeah, it's, I think it's everywhere.
It's free DLC.
A whole experience can be yours for free, and it shows.
DLC to what?
A game called Delta Force,
which was originally a PS2 game that was also Blackhawk down centric,
but I don't remember it being so movie-centric as this one.
Ah.
You get celebrity face scantz.
Is Ewan McGregor in it?
Uh, four Ewan McGregors are in it, you can argue.
A guy, a guy that,
we think might be you and
McGregor is in it and he
and he's in it over and over and over again
you know who's
definitively in it though Jeff they made sure
to get him perfect
nailed his likeness Eric Banna
sort of I don't know if I've
actually seen Eric Banner I mean
in a screenshot I did but I haven't really
gotten to inspect his character model
I can't remember who else is in the movie
William Fitchner
they nailed
you may know him
as the
bank manager in the dark night
character actor
you and your friends are dead
did you guys quote that all the time too
me and my friends quoted that all the time
is the best that's awesome
oh man we quoted that all the time
when would you use that in uh
oh every time you walk into a room
every time you walk into a room and your friends are there
you walk in you go you and your friends are dead
and then uh everyone go
hey it would be a good time
Do you think you're more annoying or less annoying than you were back then?
Probably less.
Really?
I'm definitely less annoying now, yeah.
For sure.
Let's go around the room.
Just slower.
How about you, Gavin?
Am I less annoying?
I think so.
Yeah, you think you're less annoying now?
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, actually.
I think in areas, I'm less annoying, but I've made up for it by being more annoying in other ways.
You've re-tipped the scale.
I think I'm less annoying significantly I don't know if I'd agree with you from a friendship standpoint but okay
Nick how about you I feel like I've I've I've uh it's like I don't think I've ever been
annoying no I was going to say I've I've drifted back and forth I think I was annoying in college
probably and then in radio and then laid low at RT for a while and now I'm annoying
Lay the low at RT
Nick, what was the last time
of you annoyed someone?
When was the horse not horse draft?
Wow.
You know, I think that was one of the videos
I recorded from the basement in Michigan
and it sounded totally fine.
Yeah.
That was great.
It was great.
It was nice, the audience vindicating me
with my horse not horse picks.
So that was, I feel good about it.
Dude, Emily was definitely on your side as well.
She was like, that's a ridiculous thing
to argue about. I was on Eric's side.
I didn't even think it was an argument.
I was just floating. It feels bad
when you're there. When you say it, ugh.
I saw a comment on that video that made me
laugh so hard, which is the first
four, the worst four words
to hear from Andrew, I'm on your side.
I agree with you. I just thought it was worth
floating to see
the opinions. I would say Gavin and Nick
were from my mind.
much more against it.
So you're on my side
so you wanted to float it
to see who would be against me?
Yeah, I just wanted to say
Eric, I think this is fine
the rest of you.
You got a problem with this
because I don't, but...
And he takers on hating this shit?
Yeah.
It seems like a thing
somebody else might have an issue with.
It does. I think it's worth conversation.
I think the content of the conversation
is worth having, but I was always on your side.
I always thought it should be allowed.
I feel like our drafts more often,
you end up not really doing devil's advocate.
You're just doing no one's advocate.
Yeah.
The devil doesn't want anything to do with it.
To be fair, I was more Gavin's advocate in that sense.
You're kind of against it initially.
You believe, I believe what they call chaotic neutral.
I, when we filmed the last podcast, which was 69, Gavin.
You know?
Nice.
Thanks.
I mentioned that I was going to have to do a lot of living between 69 and 70 because I was
running out of stuff to have to do.
And then we recorded that podcast on a Friday and this one on a Monday.
I did one amount of living.
I went to Costco.
But I have three things from Costco to share with you if that's okay.
I mean, please.
We know you were doing other shit at the weekend.
Oh, I went to bingo.
Nothing happened there.
What else was I doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What'd you have it bingo?
What'd you have it bingo?
Okay, okay.
Maybe it was a pretty eventful weekend.
Let's talk about Costco first.
Did I hit you guys with a life hack recently?
No.
I didn't hit you with a Costco soda-related life hack recently.
I'm scared to repeat myself.
I don't remember it.
I don't think so.
I have stumbled on maybe the greatest life hack of the last decade for me.
My wife and I realized this last time we went to Costco.
We were leaving.
We grabbed a slice of pizza and a soda, as we often do.
And I was walking out the door, and I was lamenting.
that I hate getting a fountain drink
and then leaving the place immediately
because I'm given up on the opportunity
to get free refills.
Okay.
And I always feel like that's a part of the transaction.
Like it's factored in.
Like I'm paying more for the initial drink
because they expect me to get refills, you know?
And so I thought that day,
and I thought I may have mentioned this to you guys,
but I guess I didn't,
what if next time we go to Costco,
we go in through the exit,
buy our slices of pizza and our soda immediately and then shop while eating pizza and drinking
soda and then at any point in time if I run out of soda I can just walk back to the front
of the store and get a free refill and then go back to doing soda and let me tell you
something we fucking did it Sunday and it's maybe the greatest life hack of all time I was
pushing a cart with one hand eating a slice of pepperoni pizza with the other and then whenever
I needed to, big old sip of soda.
Everybody around me looked jealous as
fuck. We were the only people in the store doing it.
They don't make it easy to do, by the way. They don't
like you to cross over that line between leaving and
entering. We had to finagle our way
back and forth, clearly, and I got
the impression that maybe some of the employees weren't
jazzed about it, but
nobody said anything, and I had
so much fucking soda, and I was
it is the best way to shop
with a fountain's ring. That sounds fantastic.
But why wouldn't you just go in the entrance,
go all the way through to the soda,
leave and then come back in.
There's no way to...
There's really no way to cross over.
Yeah, you gotta go through a cashier.
It's tight.
It's hard to get around.
It's much easier to...
It's impossible to do with a cart.
I just want to express that I do this and then just...
Good.
Go and walk through and eat and drink as we're doing our shopping.
I thought this was like a very like normal thing.
Never seen anybody else do it.
Never seen anybody else in the store do it.
Now once again...
Wow, that's crazy.
I'm on Jeff's side.
I'm curious how Gavin feels about this life hack.
Oh, I don't want it.
I don't want the soda.
No, no, I'm not the specifics of it.
If it counts as a life hack, do you think that this is a life hack?
Yeah, I mean, if you're doing something against the, uh, the flow that they intend,
I'd say that's a life hack.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're doing something in a different way.
Yeah.
To achieve a better result.
And that result is a hell of a lot of free diet coke.
Yeah.
Like, I want to be clear.
I'm for this.
I do this.
Yeah, I think this is awesome.
I hadn't even thought about it as a life hack.
I just thought of it as a thing that you do at Costco.
But I'm all for it, man.
Hell yeah.
I just never,
never seen anybody else do it.
Okay, next thing I learned that happened at Costco.
I want to share with you guys.
I saw a hot new toy.
I imagine this is going to be hitting the shelves pretty soon.
Okay.
I took a photo of it because I couldn't believe it existed.
Let's see.
But I want to see what you guys think about this.
And if you want to get in on this, maybe.
Let me go ahead.
Sorry, I'm trying to.
Get the file now.
We're about to see...
Fart Ninjas!
Costco has a whole display of fart ninjas.
It's the hottest new toy, apparently.
10 option-activated fart sounds.
Fart ninjas.
Oh, they're sounds.
But you get a box of five little ninjas
that are like action figures,
and I guess also they fart.
What, you squeeze them with something?
I don't tell, man, I didn't buy them,
but I just...
Wait, wait, you, that's a toy that exists.
You were at the font ninjas and didn't think, I should see what these are all about.
I took the photo to show you guys.
We can always go back and buy them.
Trust me.
I'm sure they have a ton of it.
It does feel like a product that you would create.
Grand Master Malador, I'm looking at their names.
Foo Man Pew, Kung Fumes, Cobra Cop Crop Dust.
Jesus Christ.
I think I looked at these and was disappointed that there does,
It doesn't appear to be any actual scent related to them at a glance.
It's just a sound?
Yeah, it appears to sound.
Yeah, just to be sound, yeah.
And I was like, oh, that's kind of, I feel like you're missing the point.
That's where we are.
We're at the cross-section where we thought to make ninjas the most silent assassins in our pop culture farders.
Well, it says it right there.
It's silent, silent but deadly.
Yeah, I guess so.
Mine would be Catanoss.
Oh.
This product feels like
somebody watched Beverly Hills Ninja
and was like,
what if we just take this joke
and make it a toy line?
Let's just sell
a bunch of fart ninjas.
Anyway, I don't know if anybody else
is into fart ninjas,
but they got him at Costco.
I will say that Bowser
does not look thrilled
to be next to the fart ninjas.
He is bra.
They got a lot of that big ass
Bowser there too.
They also are selling
pinball machines now.
I showed Gavin a picture.
They had a Star Wars pinball
machine for like five grand. Wow.
Crazy. I feel like
you're gaining a little bit of an addiction, Jeff.
I'm not, all right. I'm not getting an addiction,
but I do have a pinball. We do have pinball to talk about. But one last thing.
My wife and I were eating our pizza as we're a shop walking around
Costco. And maybe this is something that Eric's going to be like,
oh, I thought everybody said this.
I've been doing this for years. But I had never heard her say it, and we've been
together over eight years. My wife, when she was done with their pizza,
she said, do you want my pizza bones?
and she was talking about the crust.
I've heard pizza bones.
I've never heard pizza crust referred to as pizza bones before.
In my entire life, she's never said it before.
Are you okay?
Andrew just said he's heard it before.
Are you okay with that?
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
I just had never heard it.
Could we make a pizza with a skeleton?
What would it be the shape of the thing?
Or what does the skeleton on the inside look like?
What is the skeleton?
I don't know.
I just like the idea of eating a pizza off the bones.
That sounds terrible.
I hate that.
I mean, do you like it?
That's crazy.
I found a picture of bone structure of pizza.
I think that's what the Star Wars movie.
It does.
Snorlax.
Like eating stuff off a bone, for me, I feel like is nice.
I like eating meat off a rib.
But I'm not a wing.
It's worse.
It's worse.
The only value of it is that the bone provides flavor.
I don't know what the bone does for the pizza.
Is it providing more pizza flavor?
What is the value of the bone?
So wait, if you wanted ribs, would you try it?
Would you prefer them to not arrive with the bones?
Yes.
I'd rather have, if there's a boned food, I'd probably prefer it boneless by and large.
I mean, steak is-
You'd rather have ribless, you don't have boneless ribs, Eric?
Absolutely.
And I guess I don't think I've ever had boneless ribs.
I, like, didn't even know that was like a thing.
But when you think of wings, like, the boneless to me is just such a, like, easier pick
every time.
Now, I will say, with the boneless ribs, when I think of boneless ribs, it's the micrib, and that's horrible.
But I think there's a way to do it right.
It's a, not a rib.
It's a pressed rib-like barbecue-flavored meat substitute.
How do you get boneless wings?
Do they just pull them out?
I don't know.
I think it's just, I think it's a processed chicken.
I think it's a processed chicken differently.
I think they hit the chickens with like a bone vaporizing ring.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Takes out the beak, the eyes and the bones.
I know, I've said, I've said 10,000 ridiculous things to Gavin's one, but the premise that to make boneless wings that they don't just make him the same way they make nuggets, but instead get to the point where they're about to be finalized.
They go, uh, uh, uh, we're going to take the bones.
So, wait, what?
It's so funny.
I've never had him.
What, what is it then?
What are they?
They're just nuggets.
They're just nuggets with like wing sauces on them
Is how I'm not actually wing
Well I mean it's the same
I think it's supposed to be the same meat
But I don't think in making them
They just extract the bones
I think they just make nuggets and then
Yeah, start meat
Yeah
So oh
But I really like your idea
I prefer to imagine a factory where there's a section of
Just deboning for the final state
Like they separate
I just thought they would like orient them in a machine
and the bone to be pressed out.
Boneless wings are not actual chicken wings
that have been deboned.
They are pieces of chicken breast meat
that are breaded, fried,
and tossed in wing sauce.
I feel like that's full sabotizing.
I'm going back to Jeff's idea
of the deboning ray.
I think we should shoot chickens.
I like it.
Same with the debon ring, yeah.
Yeah.
Let's let science take care of it.
Finally.
I'm sure I could
I could make boneless wings.
What?
Okay.
it was all right show us
the issue isn't if it can be done
at what point do you pick up the process
of making boneless wings
like where are like are you
I assume you're not killing the chicken
plucking the chicken and like making it happen there
so at what point are you picking up
and running with the boneless wing
like are you inventing the ray
I think it'll be the last part of the process
it is
it's underrated joke Jeff that's great
thank you thank you
I think you're not
into wing culture
is what I'm gathering
I've never had to
I've never eaten a wing
You've never had a chicken wing
Let's put it on the list
Can we
Can we just keep a running list
In the office on a wall
Of things that people haven't done
That they should absolutely do
How have you not had a wing?
I mean I know
Once again
How have you not had an egg?
I know I know I know
I know
That's what I said I know
I know
I know
But I feel like Gavin would like wings
I just I've watched somebody eat wings
I watched all the orange
like seep into their face and lips
and I just thought that looks freaking
there is no way Gavin would like
the experience of eating a wing
like a wing with buffalo sauce
it's too messy for him
I've had like wing meat
I've like
eating a chicken
but I've never ordered
just a plate of wings
I don't know what to do with that clip
but I want to I want to see it
yeah yeah it's pretty
I like the premise of saying, no, I've had like wagoo. I've had cow. I get it. I know what it is.
I've eaten the animal. Therefore, I've had every variation of it. I mean, I had a hamburger
yesterday, so I've basically had prime rib. I think I've got bird confidence. I've got like,
like I think I can make decent quail sliders too, but I'm sure you could. So are you going to make
these or eat them? I'm sorry. What's that now? The wings? Chicken wings. Yeah. Are you,
is your confidence towards making them or eat them?
eating them.
Oh, just preparing them.
Okay.
So I've, say I've got the wings cooked, right?
It's a real wing, though.
Bold, but okay.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I then have to put on the wing sauce.
How you cooking them?
Oh, shit.
Is a wing, is a boneless wing fried or just normal?
Yeah, those are the options.
There's a lot of different ways to do it, yeah.
Fried boneless wings.
I also, if you, please put the sauce on before you cook it, man.
Oh, it's a pre-cook thing.
Yeah.
Well, if you're making it from scratch, it doesn't have to be.
Does it?
But you're going to be basing it the entire time you're cooking it, probably.
Yeah.
I'll have to do some research on this.
Yeah.
If you want to cook wings in the office and have like a Gavin's, Gavin's Wing video kind of thing,
I highly support that.
I'm all about it.
We can do it at my house if we need to use a grill.
Yeah, because I think the result would be interesting.
I gave it to, I serve it up, and you have to tell me what's
better, boneless wings or
boneless wings.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
We can do that.
Let's do that.
All right.
Yeah.
Somebody write that down.
Put on the bit barrel.
So he's going to make quail sliders.
Uh-huh.
And he's also going to make boneless wings.
And when asked, how are you going to cook the boneless wings?
He said,
I'll cook these.
How?
Ooh, interesting.
Well, I have a.
obviously I've never eaten them or cook them
have to do a little bit of research
Do you want to still like take you to pluckers or something
Or so are they boneless
Are they boneless legs?
What?
Like can you get a boneless thigh or like other pieces of chicken?
No
No no no
They're just they're just nuggets
Yeah
Just branded differently
What sauce do you think you'd use?
Oh that's the question
That's a great question
I mean that's the thing gab
you go to a place like pluckers or wing stop,
they're going to have 30 different sauces for you to choose from.
Like the chicken,
and you might not know this as not being a wing officiantio,
but the chicken is basically the sauce delivery mechanism
at the end of the day.
Absolutely.
You got lemon pepper,
karaoke,
Cabanero,
Buffalo,
salt and pepper.
So you're all big wings guys.
Yeah.
I think we're normal wings guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not even a big wings guy.
I don't really like or dislike wings.
They're just sort of a wing to me,
but like I felt like this was pretty common knowledge stuff.
I'm very surprised through this whole thing,
that you don't know anything about it.
It's like very surprised.
Yeah, I don't know that I'm a wing guy either,
but I do like a wing.
I will say Millie went through about a year in high school
where she was super into wings.
And so Millie and Emily and I would go to Buffalo Wild Wings together all the time.
So I may be over-indexed a bit for a while.
But yeah.
Well, maybe if I got an invite to one of those,
I wouldn't be in such a pickle right now.
Why you want to bring pickles into this?
Do you want to...
Yeah, I'm thinking like if there'd be a Brantston-y type sauce.
Or salad cream wing.
Brantston and boneless?
Boneless Brantzton.
I'll do it.
But you have to get all the little boneless bites and line them up like a person.
Boneless, Brantston special.
Line them up like a person.
Yeah, like do like a stick figure, but instead of...
like the sticks, it's the nuggets, do some feet and legs, arms, and then you have the
Boneless Branson. A Gavin's specialty. You haven't lived until you've had Gavin's Brantston's
bites. I mean, I still think an egg is more mental to not eat than a wing, though.
Oh yeah, I'm not arguing that. Absolutely. Like, I'm, without a doubt, I'm missing some key things,
but I was just surprised. I think we need to do two things here. I think we need to take Gavin's
out to eat wings and have a good
six or seven flavors. But also
obviously we need to have Gavin make wings.
Now the question is, do we take Gavin out to
eat wings before he makes wings? Yeah, it's a great
question. Or should we have him make the wings first
side unseen and then take him to eat
wings? Because it's two different situations.
It's one where he goes, now I know what to do, and then
there's a second situation where we take him out to the wing
second and he goes, oh, it's what I was supposed
to do. Yeah. And I don't
I don't know which is funnier.
This is a genuine question and you're probably the only person that I know, Gavin, that I would ask this.
How do you feel about salt and pepper?
Like, are you okay with them?
They're a hell of a combo, bud.
Do you view it as a waste of time?
Like, I don't, with your perception of seasoning, I just don't know how to, like, factor it.
I'll be honest, I think I've only ever used salt and pepper when I just watched someone else use it.
I would never think to use it myself.
So it's not like a taste that you ever seek or go like, oh, that's nice.
Well, I just don't know about the combos.
Like, you can you put, you can't put pepper on anything, can you?
Well, I mean, it's the base of so many things.
Like, if you're grilling or you're cooking really any meat, like salt and pepper.
What things, Gavin, can you give me an example of something?
that you could put pepper on
and then something
you should not put pepper on.
Well, I think that's what I don't know.
Right, right.
That's what I'm asking,
like, if you have to take a guess,
you don't know shit about wings,
but you think you can make them.
I probably wouldn't put pepper on.
Would I put it on a sandwich?
No, maybe I would.
No, you could have pepper on a sandwich.
Yeah, you can't.
What about salt?
Yeah.
Well, wait, wait, wait.
You could always put both on,
Kadi.
Would you put pepper on cereal?
Well, no.
Peanut butter and jelly?
No.
I think so.
Hmm.
Hot food.
Is it a hot food thing?
It can't be?
Is there a hot food that wouldn't go...
Put it on soup.
Put it on...
I'm trying to think of a cold food that I'd want to salt and pepper.
This is the craziest.
Like, I'm like, I'm like so stunned.
I didn't think this is where the episode was going.
I don't know about flavors.
I don't have any food.
Like, if I eat food, I don't have any information about it other than, like, it was, I liked it or I didn't like it.
Some people are like, I really enjoyed the way that this, the sweetness cuts through the, I don't know, like, what?
Acidity.
Yeah.
Huh?
Like, like, it's, you really just want to eat protein cubes and you really want your final, your fourth course to be the check and go home.
Like, this is awful.
I wasn't lying when I drafted the check and the cup of tea home.
No.
That's a perfect meal for me.
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Gavin and I had a talk recently where I realized that the way Gavin views 120 frames per second
is how I view a slushy.
Like he, the way that I value food but don't see the value, like it doesn't matter to me.
The other thing, like that's what our interchangeable thing is.
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For him, it's like graphics and fidelity.
To me, it was bugging me that the remake of gears has, it's like four.
Okay, 60, but the cutscenes are not 60.
Like 30 or 24, and it was annoying me. And Andrew was like, I didn't even notice.
I would never notice. I would never notice either.
Yeah, maybe I'm fussy in the wrong areas.
You just fussing in your areas.
Yeah, you have your own fuzziness.
And that's fine.
Yeah. You're doing okay.
Nothing wrong with not being a food person.
It's, uh, you have your own fuss. We all have our own fussiness.
And it's not even that you're not a food person.
It's just that you like the efficiency of the feud, of the, of the,
feud of the food cube, but you still
appreciate when the food cube tastes good, you just don't know
how or why it tastes good. But to me, opinions on food are binary.
It's just like on or off. Like, I like it or I don't. And that's
the end of my opinion. So you're not like kombucha girl.
What's that?
I would say, Gavin, I'm having a hard time thinking of a cold food I'd season.
I wouldn't season job. What about?
What about gazpacho?
Oh, potato salad.
Oh, potato salad's a good one.
Yeah, that's kombucha.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, it can't be cold too.
No, yeah, I've seen that.
You've seen that?
No, yeah, I wish I enjoyed food more.
Maybe.
Have you tried?
Yeah, maybe that journey can start today.
How do you try and get enjoyment of something?
Have you fucking tried?
I didn't.
I didn't mean.
in the tone that Eric delivered.
You're acting like I'm like whack-a-molling my emotions when I make sure.
I'm like, don't have an opinion on this.
It's not, how can you try?
No, no, no.
You could try by like learning how to cook certain things and like experimenting with like,
if I put this in it, then it tastes like this as opposed to if I put this in it.
What do I like more?
Oh, it turns out I actually learned that I like, uh, I don't know, a lemon pepper a lot more
than I would have guessed.
Like, have you experimented in the sense of, like, you've attempted to make food or try foods that have different ranges and then evaluate how you feel about them?
You need to have your RIME getting electrocuted on top of the roof moment.
I think if I cook something myself, it'll be like a five out of ten, right?
And if I make modifications, it will only ever be a different five.
What the fuck is a different five?
What?
Just like, it's never, I've never improved or deep-de-proved.
I've just never made a meaningful modification, I think.
My question was essentially, have you ever attempted to meaningfully invest in food?
And I just don't think that that's a thing that you would understand.
Not in a negative, I just don't think your brain works in a way that, like, I don't think
you're capable of it.
Like I just don't think that's for you
And that's okay
Well I mean my favorite drink is water
I don't think I'm off to a great start
But like
What's interesting is you
What I think is interesting is
Is like your favorite drink is water
And that's totally fine
There's nothing wrong with that
I feel like you haven't tried
A lot of other things
But I genuinely believe it's the best drink
Like it tastes the best
Well it doesn't taste anything
Okay, I mean
Your favorite flavor is absence of flavor
Well, there are different textures
And like I do think there's a range to water
But what I just think is interesting
Is that you've made this declaration
While also
Never trying a slurpy or being like
I wonder what this tastes like
For such a curious person
You have such a lack of food curiosity
Well, I'm just not like I'm not a sugar guy
You're not listed anything that isn't just like
40 grabs of sugar.
But how do you know you're not a sugar guy?
It's like, yeah.
I've tried, I've tried sodas.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I just, I feel like, once again,
it's sort of relating to the cow thing
of just because you've had sugar
doesn't mean that you have necessarily,
like there could be a version
of a sugary thing that you like, potentially.
Maybe not, though.
What about iced tea?
It might not.
No, too, no.
I just more find it,
interesting that I think you're probably the most curious person I know, but in this specific
regard that is, I think, a general curiosity for a lot of people, zero interest at all. And that's
not a judgment in the slightest. It's just, I think, interesting. I don't think Gavin's the most,
I think Gavin is the most niche curious person, but I don't think he's curious about a lot of the
world. That's fair. I just, I view him as the most scientifically curious.
Sure. I go with that.
Oh.
Are there any other types of curiosities you have, Gavin, outside of science?
Like lenses, right? Like filmmaking? Like, I feel like you have an interest in how shit is made, how the thing you're seeing.
I think you're a very visually curious person.
I think my favorite thing in the world is to see an invisible thing.
There you go.
Okay. Okay.
Like, I think that's too fast or too slow or like infrared or thermal. It's all wicked. Love it.
Seeing something you're not supposed to be able to see.
Yeah.
Like, better than eyeballs.
Yeah, I get that.
I just think you're pro-eyes, anti-tongue.
You can get rid of the tongue, you would.
You don't need it.
I mean, I feel like you're curious.
Like, what do you think keeps you in the tub so long?
I'll be on my phone.
I'll just be looking at stuff.
I like the work in the tub.
I find it relaxing.
Okay, well, what gets you out of the tub?
Is it the shrivel, like, you'd get too shriveled, or too cold?
I just feel like getting out at that point.
I've accomplished everything I want to accomplish.
But this becomes a point, too, where, like,
you've gone past comfort
into, you know, like you've achieved the maximum
comfort you can have in a thing, like a nap or sitting down.
Yeah, I guess it's why, like, there's no massage that's, like, five hours long.
Because after 90 minutes, you're like, I'm excruciating.
Okay, I'm relaxed.
For me, it's a process of one,
and if I'm doing certain work where I can just work it on my phone,
great. Like I just find I work well in that environment. And also just if I'm trying to come up
with ideas for content, I find it's a great place to do that for me. Just sit and just think
about nothing in a comfortable space. Yeah, but what's different in there than it would be on
like the couch or a bed? I've less distractions if I want. Like I could I could make the room very
dark and I can just sit and either sometimes I won't have my phone if I'm trying to think of
stuff and just it's a very isolating space for me i feel like other people aren't going to come
into it and that i'll have to interact with them like i feel when i am in the bathtub that like i am
in a do not disturb or as much of a do not disturb state as i can be have you ever been one of
those in one of those sensory deprivation tank egg things no no thank you uh see to me that's
like that's like ultimate tub that's like maximum tub yeah why wouldn't you want that
I'm not claustrophobic. I don't know. I just don't like the idea of being locked in a big chamber thing.
Well, your house is a big chamber.
Yeah, but I have so many more entries of exit as opposed to...
You got two entries in access to the bathroom?
But I'm not like locked in.
I don't think you're locked...
I think you're locked in the sensory deprivation tank.
Maybe what I imagine a sensory deprivation tank looks like is not at all what it looks like.
You think there's a big padlock on the outside?
No, it's just, I've seen too many final destinations.
Oh, okay.
I don't need it, and I feel like it's the backdrop for somehow getting killed by the isolation tank.
I've seen way more bathtub murders in films.
That's what Andrew thinks a deprivation tank is.
Oh, if that's what it was, I would be more into it.
Yeah, I feel like you can see it.
In my mind, it's like a hot water tank, but larger.
But that's what a bath is.
No, but it's open top.
I'll tell you what a deprivation tank is.
It's what all the fucking QAnon idiots say is a medbed, honestly.
It's just that.
Oh, that doesn't look that bad.
That looks dumb.
This is a tub with a lid.
Yeah, that looks dumb.
That's what I was imagining was a lot worse.
What were you imagining?
As I said, like a hot water tank, but larger.
Like a metal circular thing you would climb into.
Yeah, that just looks goofy.
That's fine.
That's like a swimming.
It's like a tub without walls.
You know, so you got a little bit of room to relax.
And they have a purple light in it and it's, yeah.
No, that's fine.
I thought it was lights off in there.
I didn't realize it was a purple light.
Yeah, I think you're supposed to be lights off.
I think the entire point is zero senses.
I've never done one.
I haven't either, but I'm pretty sure that's the point
because don't they put like enough salt in it
that like you can't even tell that you're floating or something?
Like it changes the field.
It's like the Dead Sea.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
North Austin,
True Rest,
premier float spa.
We could do this.
Sensory deprivation tanks in Austin.
I don't.
I feel like I want Andrew to do it.
You got any on the Nanaimo?
Let me look.
Any on the Nanaimo?
I'm sure I did.
What if that building that I picked
that you can't find it?
What if that was it?
That could be it.
Harbor City Float.
Location in the Nimo.
Yeah, man.
Harbor City Float could either be
a flotation tank.
company or a seaplane company.
Yeah, but it says they offer sensory
deprivation flip tank therapy.
In the seaplane.
You take flight, we lock you in,
you're not going to see nothing, it's great.
I feel like this could unlock
new levels of relaxation for you.
Maybe.
Yeah. I bet if Andrew likes it,
there will be a sleep deprivation chamber on his
balcony within six months.
The cheapest, most
inflatable, like just, yeah.
I like it.
I have a question
while we're talking a lot about Gavin
there's something that we talked about
discussing last episode that we never
got to that I've been thinking about
since that point.
What did Ray get you for your wedding,
Gavin?
We keep hearing about it, but we don't know what it is.
We don't know what it is. I've heard it so many times.
It was an incredible gift. He got me
a signed copy of X-ray and Vavs season
one and two.
Signed by Ray.
Signed by Ray.
That's what I was going to ask.
Who signed it?
Wow.
Yeah.
That's really funny.
That's incredible.
Meg must have been over the moon.
I think he was like mainly suggesting it is like if this would be funny to give me.
And then I was like, is it funny if I actually take it there?
And he was like, yeah, take it.
So now it's genuinely on my my bookshelf.
Speaking of your wife, Meg, I was hanging out with her on Saturday without you as per usual.
Yeah.
And I was telling her, Saturday specifically, that fucking pinball machine you guys gave me
might be the best gift I've ever received in my entire life.
I don't know that I've had that much fun in years.
As you all know, the last podcast, was it the last podcast?
Eric mentioned that he got the high score on the pinball machine?
That is correct, yes.
Yeah, he beat my score.
So luckily, my wife was out of town on Saturday for most of the day.
She came home Saturday evening.
And so I just got up on Saturday
And I drove to the office
And I just said, I'm just going to play pinball
Until I beat Eric's score.
And it was like being transported back in the 1977,
I assume, and being at a bowling alley
Or a bar somewhere.
The whole fucking house shakes
When the pinball machine is on,
it's in like this dark, musty, wooden room.
I was transported to a different time.
The hours melted away.
If you told me I was in there for 10 hours straight,
would have believed you. If you told me an hour, I would have
believed you. I just, I couldn't,
I can't tell you like the Z.
Like, if that's what pinballing is, I
hit a level of Zen. I haven't had
in so many years. And of course, I was
very excited to tell you guys
when I beat Eric's score.
Now, there's some King of Kong erasure. It needs
to be known. I have the top scoring.
Right, right, right. We're working
on, uh, and part
of the reason I did this also is because
Andrew on Friday night let us know that via
the digital version of the game,
he got the high score 8.6 million or something.
But the cabinet high score was Eric with 6.64 million.
So I beat that and now it's 6.69 million.
So I beat it by 5,000 points.
What I didn't tell you guys, though, later in the day is I wasn't done.
So I beat it again just because I was having so much fun playing pinball.
So now it's 6.8.
I think it's 88.
Still totally within range of beating it.
Eric can definitely take the score
and return to the front page.
Rat back on top, baby.
Number one rat.
You'll get there.
But in all seriousness, Gavin,
thank you so much.
I genuinely have not had that much fun gaming.
It was better than any...
At that time I spent playing Earthshaker on Saturday
was better than any video game I've played
in the last five years.
It was...
I love that.
It was so much fun.
You were posting your score updates
and then Andrew was posting little clips.
So, ground level.
We had a stream on the Friday of me trying to beat the high score and then I kept playing it.
Mainly because I knew if I beat it, that would incentivize one of you to go into the office
and I wanted to film you as Dilbot playing on the machine.
So I popped in once, nobody was there, or I guess you were there.
I got stuck and then I left and then I came back and I saw that the door was open again.
And yeah, I got 40 minutes of Jeff playing pinball from the back view.
Just pure joy.
I was watching all this happen in the Slack
and then I thought, I'll, let me hop on the old security camera
and I could just, I could hear Jeff
at the other room rail it on the pinball machine.
And then you see a little doorbot
like it through the door like running it.
It looked like a little kid watching his dad or something
because he was parked behind him on the floor,
look it up.
It's a really fun cap.
Anyway, I think that this, this pinball machine
is going to become, uh, I, I think our,
mark by which we rate regulation things. I want to get something on the wall where we can list.
We can have anytime we have a guest come in, we can let them take a shot at it, see if they
can be, it could be like, we've talked about it before, right? But it had it be like our
top gear stig time and that whole thing. I just, it's just perfect. The pinball machine is
just perfect. And I'm super open to the idea of getting more. Hell yeah. I don't know if we
necessarily, like I really like that we're all mastering one cabinet. No, for sure, for sure. And it's
also a thing where I feel like the scores can be beaten at any time because I didn't go above
three million points until I hit 8.9. Like I had just every game I was like 2.5, 2.2, 2.3. And then I had
the 8.7. And it just feels like anyone can have one of those games at any moment. I think that 6.8
million game, I think I had going into the third ball, I think I had like 1.4 million points.
And then you just like, you go on on a run. And then when I died, I,
I had my ball locked in
and I just needed to get the second ball locked
and I would have had another multi-ball.
So another earth shaker.
So, yeah, when you just got to catch a wave on that thing
and then you're off to the races.
Nick, have you had to go yet?
Not yet.
I still have not played the pinball cabinet at all.
Nick's going to end up getting like $12 million
in his second play.
I'm scared of Nick's pinball skill.
First game, he's going to be like,
oh, I guess I broke the race.
Based on how it went at the Vegas Museum,
You don't have anything to worry about.
We definitely got to keep Ray away from it.
I don't want to look at Ray's high score for it.
That's rough too because his name fits.
It's such a fun evolution of like every pinball experience I've had is like you just
hit the flippers and try to not have the ball going in the hole.
And now being in a place of like, okay, so I want to aim for this ramp.
This ramp will mean this.
If I go this way, it will increase this modifier.
Like having an understanding and an actual goal and purpose to the flipping has been so much
fun. I have five actual shots that I attempt now, you know,
or like I know which, like exactly how to hit to go for these certain areas and
they're like the five shots I cycled through and that's pretty, yeah, it's fucking,
mm-mm-mm. So cool. It's a great cabin.
Speaking of, I went out Saturday night and I celebrated my high scores by playing bingo
with the ladies. Obviously, I went and played bingo with all of your wives.
And got a little hungry. Went to Matt's snack.
where we usually, I usually get
cheddar fries. Sometimes I get some tater tots.
They have a hamburger. I've been thinking about getting,
but it just seemed like an investment
on a Saturday night
that I wasn't ready to make. And I just had
the wildest craving.
And so I got one of these guys.
What?
Ridiculous.
I know I'm off hot dogs, but I had one more.
I had one more hot dog.
And it was great.
You said things hit different
at the bingo hall.
Is that largely arthritis?
Like what's the...
What's the age demographic at that bingo hall?
Oh, dude, I'm 50 and I am a spry young man at the bingo.
I love it.
For me going to bingo, it's like me taking all of my younger sisters to bingo
or my daughter and her friends.
It's like me and Meg and Emily and Barbara and Tina and the whole group,
Vanessa.
And yeah, and then just a bunch of people with oxygen tanks.
It seems really hard to win.
You guys have been going a while and no one's won.
No, but yeah, no.
Meg came pretty close last night, as did Tina, I think, or Saturday, but yeah.
I feel like I would like to see how Eric gets on there because he's always winning sloppy Joe's bingo.
Yeah, but I just, yeah, but these people are like locked in and my wife was telling me about how you have your cards and then a computer has their cards and then you can't call bingo until the guy says the number or letter and there's like.
Why would you call Bingo before the guy says the number?
Hey,
hey, Jeff, why would they do that?
If you want to explain it to Gavin, go ahead.
I can happily explain it.
So what happens when Bingo runs is
there's monitors all up around the building
that you can see, like computer monitors or TV screens
that are all fed in onto the ball, right?
And so he'll call, the first ball will come up,
B1 or whatever, right?
He calls it. Then the next ball pops up.
Then there's a period of 10 or 15 seconds
where everybody sees that that number is like 070.
And they go, okay, and everybody's marking down 070.
If you immediately mark it down and you realize you've got bingo, you're tempted to go,
bingo, right?
But it's not official and locked in till the man says, oh, 70, then he picks the next ball.
So you just have to wait till they acknowledge that it's 070,
and it's like officially entered into the record.
And then you can yell bingo.
People just get excited and they jump the gun.
You'd know that if you asked Meg about bingo ever.
I mean, I feel like it's...
I feel like English bingo has the funny names, though.
Like what?
Yeah, but American bingo has the sad people.
Like American bingo is like a letter than a number.
English bingo is just a number, but each number has like a little, like,
Winnie the Pooh, 42.
Well, Danny LaRue.
Yeah, we don't have Danny Leroux or Winnie the Pooh.
If they went that slowly,
the people in American bingo would revolt.
Sometimes they'll be like a wild.
So some bingoes,
there's like a million different kinds of bingo, right?
So sometimes you'll be playing a bingo
and there'll be a wild number.
So like if it ends in a five,
you can blank out anything on the board
that ends in five, right?
But then if a random bingo number will pop up,
like B-I-15 will pop up
and the guy doesn't,
like he'll immediately move it
because that's a dead ball
because it's already been marked.
But if they don't see it,
for, if they wait more than one second,
people bang on the glass.
Like that.
And the guy goes,
all right,
I know,
I know,
I got it,
I got it.
I was just checking it,
making sure you're paying attention.
And they keep going,
people do not fuck around.
They don't want to hear about Danny LaRue
or skippity do or flibb or jibba jab.
They want to know what the next number is to know if they got bingo or not.
So they can yell when somebody else gets it.
Because that's the other cool thing about the bingo that I go to is when you hear
somebody yell bingo you hear this
fuck
my 30 people
and that's the best part of bingo and I'm the
loudest one of them I relish
it is a place where you go
and it is you have to be so quiet
if you talk you will get shushed
and then when bingo happens
everybody's allowed to express themselves so you
know I am as loud as humanly possible
every chance I get and I
delight in it and also if
if the girls talk I shush them so
loud.
My favorite thing to do is shush
Vanessa.
She looks horrified.
I'm sure she loves getting shushed.
Yeah, yeah.
And then as soon as somebody would, you just go,
God damn it!
And then it's fine.
Time for T.
E3.
They'd throw their walkers at you.
Yeah.
Cains would be flying at the stage.
You're doing your little jingles.
You'd be like, talk too much, you get a punch.
I want reverse bingo.
I want the bingo hall to be filled.
And when you get a bingo,
you have to leave.
You're eliminated.
You have to physically leave the venue.
Last one standing wins.
That's what I want.
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I just looked down and when I banged on the table, I cut my hand open somehow.
No!
Are you okay?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
You're such a bleeder these days.
I know.
I think it must be getting thin old man skin or something.
What did you punch the thumb tech?
No, I just like
I just like punched the table a bunch
And I just looked out on my knuckles all raw
Is it
The same hand that you cut
On the on the fish tank?
I don't know
That's the fucking idea
Well you have a 50% chance
I feel like you remember how many hand
I don't remember what hand it was
I'm just curious because you know how like
Boxers develop scar tissue in their face
That it could be a hand thing
Oh you finger popped
Wow, you really banged it up, bud.
Yeah, God, man.
Ridiculous.
Anyway, Bingo's fun.
Bingo's ridiculous.
Bingo does seem fun.
And I ate a hot dog.
I'm sorry, I ate a hot dog, but I did enjoy it.
And it doesn't mean I'm back on hot dogs or anything.
I just like, I don't know, man.
It just felt right in the moment.
You're back on hot dogs.
I think you're back on hot dogs.
Do you need a thing where, like, every hot dog you eat during burger season
subtracts a burger.
Whoa.
That's interesting
because it doesn't.
Yeah.
Actually uneat the food.
No, it's interesting.
Yeah, maybe it's just a scoring
game.
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Not a contest, of course.
No, it's not a contest.
Dude, in my stream,
the people are getting so fucking pedantic
about what is and isn't a hamburger.
It's driving me nuts.
And it's like, well, it's, you know,
and it's like, we should be weighing it.
It's like, it's really about how much ground beef
a year you're eating.
I'm like, that's not what it is at all.
It's nowhere near that.
Why do people want to extract the fun
out of the thing?
You don't want to get clarification.
It's, it's, I appreciate, like,
the, yeah, wanting specifics,
but we're doing this with hot dogs.
There is none of this.
I asked, does a hot dog
dog count as one?
The answer was yes.
And it's like, okay, well, then,
that anything is a hot dog.
Regardless of how big it is,
like it's not weight-based.
You can get some tiny hot dogs.
People are constantly trying to find ways
to game the hot dog
or hamburger counting system,
which is so arbitrary and not important,
I just don't understand.
Well, I wonder if it's a thing
where hamburgers are so much more popular
that people are worried about their own numbers.
Oh, I see.
I don't think so.
Everybody, everybody I talk to seems to think,
except for like one or two people in chats,
seems to think that 150 is an insane number to hit.
And I'm the one that's like, I don't think so.
I don't think it's insane.
I think you're going to be surprised.
I think 150 is not as many as you think it is.
If I didn't have to consider my wife
and what she's going to eat and like dinners
and all that stuff, like together,
I could, I would eclipse that number.
If I went to McDonald's once a week for a year,
I would hit the record.
Because my, my order at McDonald's
Now three cheeseburgers. I don't want fries anymore. I'm done with fries. And I don't want a Big Mac. I've had enough big Macs. So now I just get three simple. You're done with fries? Yeah, for right now. I'll eat a waffle fry or a curly fry, but I'm just kind of done with plain ass fries. I don't know.
Well, some good news for you, Jeff. Right now in Canada, we got the Shania Twain collab happening with McDonald's. And you can get you some all-dressed mix shaker fries.
Jesus, this don't stop bleeding.
If you put a small fry or a cheeseburger in front of me
and said you can only eat one,
I'm eating the fry, the hamburger, a hundred percent of the time.
So why not just order three cheeseburgers
and give up fries altogether?
My point being, one order at McDonald's
is a week's hamburgers, according to the list.
I think a French fry is sometimes better than the burger.
I disagree.
I disagree.
That's fine.
I think fries are fine.
When, Andrew, have you had the McShaker?
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Did they impress you much?
Oh, they impressed me so much, Eric.
Every time you take one fry, I just go,
Oh, I feel like a woman.
Whoa!
And there's a lot of fries.
It's a lot of fries, so it happens a lot.
I don't think Jeff, Jeff didn't hear you explain what this was.
No, he didn't.
He really tuned out and was locked in on his thing.
That's exciting.
But he's looking at this photo.
don't impress him much.
Oh, it's the Shania Twain.
I got you.
Yeah.
They look good.
There's no burger on the thing, so he's like, I don't care.
Are you hoarding any of the seasoning or sauce or anything?
Oh, yeah, I am.
What are you hoarding?
The strawberry pie?
No, I don't care about the pie.
Pie is mid.
I have on my desk right now, three bags of the McShaker fries bags.
Oh, my God.
So Shania Twine.
Wayne only eats fries and a pie?
What?
Also key chains.
Which are not displayed there.
Or maybe it is. Is that on the fry bag the little keychain?
Why do you think she only eats fries?
Because this is her meal.
This is her meal, right?
Like you get the Travis Scott meal or the Mariah Carey meal or the Mc...
Or the Shania Twain.
Is this her meal or is this just a collaborator?
Is this?
I mean, you've got the fries, but do you got the touch?
You know what I'm saying?
This is called Shania's sides.
Oh, it's just her side.
So it's just her sides.
So I don't know.
Everyone's getting on her about,
oh, this is her meal,
this is her meal?
These are simply her sides.
I've just never seen,
I've never seen McDonald's do a side-specific collaboration.
Up until about two years ago,
we never really saw them do meals either,
but things change, Jeff.
I guess they do.
I think that movie theaters
should do the fast food cele strategy.
Oh.
I think there should be like, like Denzel Washington movie night and like it comes with his popcorn combo and a movie of his choice.
Not even necessarily one of his movies.
Just being like, no, I want to, if I'm going to watch a movie in a theater, I think this is a banger.
Like Denzel's ultimate combo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is the ultimate?
The equal fries.
Let me ask you guys this.
Popcorn acts.
I found out about this from a friend yesterday.
So I was talking, I have another podcast called Creating Character and Scorpio Sky, AEW pro wrestler
Scorpio Sky said that he goes to AMC, will drive himself to AMC, orders a large popcorn, does
not see a movie, just walks out leaves and eats the popcorn.
Yeah, that's fine.
Is that normal?
This cannot be normal.
It blew my fucking mind.
Yeah.
You drove to the movies with no intention to see the movies.
If there's no movie involved, you just bought the most expensive.
Expensive popcorn.
Yeah, I'm on board with the idea of going just for the popcorn because it's good.
But that was expensive popcorn.
Gavin, I love you.
I feel like your opinion on this does not hold equal weight to everybody else's.
Oh, just because I'm not a big flavor guy.
I'm still a price guy.
That's like going to the airport for a Fiji water.
But there's a difference.
There is a taste.
There's a movie popcorn taste that is hard to replicate.
in any other form.
Let me explain it to you this way.
At home, at home, microwavable popcorn, 480P.
Movie theater popcorn, 1080P.
1080P.
Gavin, Gavin, it's the highest it can go.
1080P.
Oh, would you pay a difference, Gavin, for 1080P over 480?
You know what, I really fancy a Snickers.
Let me head to the hotel mini bar of a Vegas hotel.
but it's not the same
little 1080-p snickers.
You're right, Andrew, but you're also acting like microwave
popcorn is the only option at home. There are
a million other ways to make popcorn at home.
Sure, absolutely. But a movie theater popcorn
has a very specific taste.
I mean, if you're quite often
buying movie theater popcorn and leaving,
you could just not do that
for two years and buy a movie theater
popcorn maker. There you go. With the same
money. Yeah. And
really, I mean, you can just make, you can make
stovetop popcorn and just
throw a little bit of like that seasoning on it
that they have at the movie
theater. Andrew is right that I don't think
it's the same. It doesn't just
taste the same, but it... It's just too
much money. Like, I'm always
like relenting when I buy movie theater popcorn.
You know, I'm just like, oh, fuck, I go.
It's the only place I'm going to get it, so I might as well fucking pay for
it. But I'm always mad about it.
I wouldn't go out of my way to pay for it, I guess.
What gives it that flavor
there? What's providing that
extra taste that you can't replicate?
I've never worked in them. A certain staleness
in the air
I'm sure the popcorn
kernels are aged
in a bag
for six months
to a year longer
than the ones that you're getting
you know there's like
there's a lot that goes into it
you know I'm sure the popcorn machine
hasn't been properly cleaned
ever it's this
it's just this
flavicle
yeah flavicle or whatever
so I bought I have it on my desk
right now
and I've been experimenting with it
to try to get the taste
you have a flavicle
I do I have a flavicle
I just ruined a bag of pre-made popcorn
was the problem
I put too much in it was just way too salty
That's not how it's supposed to work
Is my understanding
You just pour it on
No I don't believe no I don't think that's true
I don't think you just pour it on
This salt does not supply iodine
A necessary nutrient
So wait it's like a nutrient extracted
Yeah it's like all the salt
With none of the benefit
For better tasting popcorn
Uh-huh
Uh-huh
Is this the first time
You're reading the instructions?
I'm just asking
Yeah, I haven't read the box at all
Had desired amount of flavor
Cold of corn in kettle
Yeah
Okay
Yeah
Yeah
I will say though
It has been added a little bit of that taste
I have enjoyed a little bit of salt
Uh
Oh man
This sucks
I have to cook it
Like what did you expect
That you just put it on?
It was like a season
seasoning salt, yeah.
So wait, is it actually, is it a salt then?
It's not a liquid in there?
No, it's salt.
It's a salt, yeah.
Why is it like an orange juice cart?
Because they poured into the machines and like huge amounts.
Because it's really old and the only people who are supposed to use it are a movie theater,
so they don't have to update or change anything.
And then sometimes guys on podcasts buy some and just put it on pre-made popcorn and
go, and this ain't working.
Like that picture that's on the side of that popcorn making.
get that for like 250 bucks.
Right.
If anything, it worked too much was the issue I've had.
The only time it's went wrong.
It was the equivalent of like watching three movies at the same time.
It was like a salt lick in a bag is what it turned into.
It was, it made the popcorn kind of like 4K.
It was just too much.
It was like watching the Equalizer trilogy.
Do you cook popcorn with this, Eric?
Do you ever use it?
I have used it in the past, yeah, but I don't have it to like cook popcorn with no.
Do you want to try it?
We can try it.
Yeah.
I want to see. I want to see if we can make pop. We should get. Here's what we do. We make it. And then we go get movie theater popcorn and then we compare. It's so crazy that he just went like, yeah, this is my thing. This is what I do. And it's turning into us going, we can make this popcorn. This is nuts. Well, good idea is a good idea. I want to see if this stuff works. I just don't see the appeal of eating popcorn not in front of a movie. That's Gavin, I feel the same way. It's just food to eat that you don't need to look at. You're talking about savings. If I get the
popcorn to go? Because you're never just getting the popcorn. You're also going to be buying a drink because it's so salty. You need to balance it out. If I'm getting popcorn to go, I don't need to buy the drink. I'm not spending money on drink costs.
Wait, so wait. He's right. You're not, you're not drinking. I got drink at home. I can provide a drink at home. Well, why do you order a drink anywhere? Because if you're going to a theater. Yeah. You're going to eat the popcorn.
in the theater. It's so salty.
You need a drink
to counter it. Too much
flavor call. Too much flavor
call. So, but if I go
at home, I'm not going to be stuck
in a room for two and a half hours.
I don't need the drink.
I can have a drink at home.
I'm not paying the drink cost.
You could always bring a drink in with you.
And it's smuggling.
Yeah, that takes effort.
I used to smuggle a lot.
Yeah, so did I.
Everybody likes Han Solo until it's time to be Han Solo.
That's fair.
I will go as far, Gavin.
There have been times where I've had someone I know, like a friend who's going to the movies and I'm not, and then I'm going to see them after.
And I've given the money to buy me popcorn to bring to the meat.
That is, that is mental.
See, once again, I don't know if that's true or not because you're saying it.
I would trust anybody else.
It's just such a specific
Andrew, I'm
just so you're clear
I'm kind of on your side here
Have you done that then? I don't think it's mental
Would you go to that trouble?
It's not trouble! What trouble?
It doesn't shock me that someone else would
I don't know
It's quite a burden to pot on someone to buy popcorn
on the way out
Not really, they double bag it
It's so easy to transport
It's not
Yeah
Scorpio's guy was walking out with a bucket
so he just had a bucket of popcorn
I don't know if that's easier or harder
but watching that's not practical
like a gust of wind would yeah
yeah exactly take the top layer away
gust of wind
Andrew do you think it can Uber eats
absolutely I've done it
what you've Uber eats popcorn from the movie theater
I mean movie as we talked about
movie theater popcorn insanely expensive
I've only done it once and that was like we're doing a
big exciting movie night
let's get movie theater popcorn
with the experience
that's like me
you can get absurd bags
here let me show you a photo of
here's the problem you encounter
what the fuck
I've looked deep into this
I also learned at that time
that pretzels don't travel well
do not get movie theater
pretzels delivered to you
with your popcorn
I think pretzels don't travel well
is just a good universal rule.
Yeah, just a general thing.
You get a bit soggy?
Or a bit hot?
I get so soggy, they suck.
It's like mozzarella sticks, same way.
You can't, you can't order mozzarella sticks.
No, they don't travel well.
So if I wanted to right now,
I could get a naked gun beaver collectible tub
with large popcorn delivered to me.
How exciting.
Where is he at home?
That's got to be close to like 20 cents per kernel.
2599, family popcorn pack.
2599.
Yeah.
To do something that you don't even really need to do while you're watching a film.
I don't even really, I've never seen the point of eating while watching a film.
Family pack.
Why do you go to the-
Alamo draft house?
Yeah, what's the point?
Uh, Meg likes to go.
You know what, you win.
Their food is dog shit.
Are you serious?
I don't go for the food.
Here's the thing that I'm standing by.
I've never ordered this.
But your take-home butter selection is...
Double butter container 10 ounces 1399.
I just can't imagine getting a giant liquid thing of butter in a container to then attempt to distribute to that bag.
10 ounces of butter is a lot of butter.
It's so much butter.
Andrew, I think you got to consider if you're going to do this.
Instead of flavor call, I think you need to get some popcorn shakers.
I don't like that.
I have this.
You can also, like, you can tell us after you watch a movie, you can.
review it by telling us how many popcorn shakers
out of five it is. I don't like
those. I've tried those. Oh, really? I really
wanted to... I like the butter. I don't like them.
That's a ranch one.
Christ.
It all, you don't
like taste at all. I mean,
I bet Jeff wouldn't like the ranch one.
Why? That's white, isn't it?
So?
It's just a dusting. Like, I like cool ranch
Doritos.
It's just the dusting. It's not the white bit.
I don't like ranch dressing, but I'm not
I'm not mad at the spices in it.
Okay.
I do think it's funny that Gavin is so indifferent to flavor in a positive sense,
but is willing to display absolute disgust at flavor.
Like, it doesn't go high.
It only goes, like, he's willing to get really upset about it.
Well, I think the thing is, like, Americans, like,
the North American palate is so different that when, like, an American goes to England,
it's, it's that, like, oh, the food's tasteless, there's nothing to it.
There's something in American food that if I smell it,
my stomach gets smaller.
Flavor.
And in certain places.
Like, if I go to, for example, if I, if I smell the fries at Hyde Park Bar and Grill,
I can't eat anything.
I don't know what's on them.
It just is the anti-taste for me.
It just locks me up.
So you're against the family pack popcorn.
But what about, what about the Mighty Popcorn from a different theater chain?
2999.
I don't think you get butter with this one.
I don't think there's any butter choices.
Just unbuttered $30 bag popcorn.
Can I buy you a popcorn maker for Christmas?
No.
Okay.
Easy as that.
All right.
Because I have one.
I've several.
I've invested in popcorn technology.
Okay.
I've got a wide range of experimented.
It's just I have found that like it's tough to replicate the movie theater popcorn
experience.
I've never been able to do it in all the different forms.
I've tried different kernel types.
The closest I've gotten, which I really enjoy,
is sometimes I will buy popcorn from Toronto
to ship to me.
There's a popcorn store in Toronto that I will...
On occasion, typically when I get a promotion from them
that's like a buy one, get one free,
I'll be like, okay, I'll get two bags.
So you've spent enough time in the lab.
That's kind of upsetting.
Maybe there'll be some audience tips.
There's a popcorn company
where they make special kernels
that are coded before you make them.
I tried that.
What was that called?
It's like fancy popcorn that you microwave.
It comes with its own.
As fascinating as all this popcorn talk is,
maybe we need to think about wrapping up the episode, I think.
You know what the worst part about popcorn is?
It gets in your teeth.
That's why you freeze it.
But that doesn't work.
We tried that.
Oh, yeah.
It's true.
It doesn't work.
It's pretty terrible.
All right, hopefully we can read some audience popcorn suggestions for next week's episode.
Are there certain places that you find draws the worst out in people?
This podcast.
Thank you for listening to the regulation podcast.
Love you to death.
Can't believe you wasted another hour and, oh, five or so minutes of your life listening to these idiots.
But I was right there with you.
Shaking my head too.
We'll see you next week.
Thank you so much.
Bye.
Bye.
I'm going to send Gavin some popcorn.