Regulation Podcast - More/Less Annoying Now // Geoff is Back on Hot Dogs [70]

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about Black Hawk Down, William Fitchner, laid low at RT, "I'm on your side," no one's advocate, Costco life hack, fart ninjas, pizza bones, bird confidence, wings, salt & ...pepper, a different 5, sleep deprivation, Earthshaker High Score, bingo dog, Geoff injury, extracting the fun, done with fries, Shania Twain, 1080p popcorn, Scorpio Sky, Creating Character podcast, and movie theater popcorn. Sponsored by Shopify. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/face Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 my name is jeff ramsie with me as always and jayton gavin free eric baddur nick schwartz hello hello howdy um quick questions just before we get started i guess oh okay andrew did unmute i was wondering if andrew knew that he was muted or if it was a thing where it was tactical no tactical well tactical mute whoa i didn't consider the tactical mute I try to stay muted so that way you guys just kind of go, but that's... Well, ever since I've hit the sands, the Mogadishu, I've been thinking tactically, Eric, in just a general sense. This is a Blackhawk Down thing?
Starting point is 00:01:08 This game, we're going to have the gameplay. So this episode comes out on the 10th. The gameplay for Black Hawk Down will come out on the 13th this Saturday. Oh, my God. All sacrifices will be remembered. It's all you got to know. This is an Xbox game? Yeah, it's, I think it's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It's free DLC. A whole experience can be yours for free, and it shows. DLC to what? A game called Delta Force, which was originally a PS2 game that was also Blackhawk down centric, but I don't remember it being so movie-centric as this one. Ah. You get celebrity face scantz.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Is Ewan McGregor in it? Uh, four Ewan McGregors are in it, you can argue. A guy, a guy that, we think might be you and McGregor is in it and he and he's in it over and over and over again you know who's definitively in it though Jeff they made sure
Starting point is 00:02:06 to get him perfect nailed his likeness Eric Banna sort of I don't know if I've actually seen Eric Banner I mean in a screenshot I did but I haven't really gotten to inspect his character model I can't remember who else is in the movie William Fitchner
Starting point is 00:02:22 they nailed you may know him as the bank manager in the dark night character actor you and your friends are dead did you guys quote that all the time too me and my friends quoted that all the time
Starting point is 00:02:40 is the best that's awesome oh man we quoted that all the time when would you use that in uh oh every time you walk into a room every time you walk into a room and your friends are there you walk in you go you and your friends are dead and then uh everyone go hey it would be a good time
Starting point is 00:02:56 Do you think you're more annoying or less annoying than you were back then? Probably less. Really? I'm definitely less annoying now, yeah. For sure. Let's go around the room. Just slower. How about you, Gavin?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Am I less annoying? I think so. Yeah, you think you're less annoying now? Okay. Okay. Oh, actually. I think in areas, I'm less annoying, but I've made up for it by being more annoying in other ways. You've re-tipped the scale.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I think I'm less annoying significantly I don't know if I'd agree with you from a friendship standpoint but okay Nick how about you I feel like I've I've I've uh it's like I don't think I've ever been annoying no I was going to say I've I've drifted back and forth I think I was annoying in college probably and then in radio and then laid low at RT for a while and now I'm annoying Lay the low at RT Nick, what was the last time of you annoyed someone? When was the horse not horse draft?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Wow. You know, I think that was one of the videos I recorded from the basement in Michigan and it sounded totally fine. Yeah. That was great. It was great. It was nice, the audience vindicating me
Starting point is 00:04:18 with my horse not horse picks. So that was, I feel good about it. Dude, Emily was definitely on your side as well. She was like, that's a ridiculous thing to argue about. I was on Eric's side. I didn't even think it was an argument. I was just floating. It feels bad when you're there. When you say it, ugh.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I saw a comment on that video that made me laugh so hard, which is the first four, the worst four words to hear from Andrew, I'm on your side. I agree with you. I just thought it was worth floating to see the opinions. I would say Gavin and Nick were from my mind.
Starting point is 00:04:55 much more against it. So you're on my side so you wanted to float it to see who would be against me? Yeah, I just wanted to say Eric, I think this is fine the rest of you. You got a problem with this
Starting point is 00:05:09 because I don't, but... And he takers on hating this shit? Yeah. It seems like a thing somebody else might have an issue with. It does. I think it's worth conversation. I think the content of the conversation is worth having, but I was always on your side.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I always thought it should be allowed. I feel like our drafts more often, you end up not really doing devil's advocate. You're just doing no one's advocate. Yeah. The devil doesn't want anything to do with it. To be fair, I was more Gavin's advocate in that sense. You're kind of against it initially.
Starting point is 00:05:45 You believe, I believe what they call chaotic neutral. I, when we filmed the last podcast, which was 69, Gavin. You know? Nice. Thanks. I mentioned that I was going to have to do a lot of living between 69 and 70 because I was running out of stuff to have to do. And then we recorded that podcast on a Friday and this one on a Monday.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I did one amount of living. I went to Costco. But I have three things from Costco to share with you if that's okay. I mean, please. We know you were doing other shit at the weekend. Oh, I went to bingo. Nothing happened there. What else was I doing?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah. Yeah. What'd you have it bingo? What'd you have it bingo? Okay, okay. Maybe it was a pretty eventful weekend. Let's talk about Costco first. Did I hit you guys with a life hack recently?
Starting point is 00:06:28 No. I didn't hit you with a Costco soda-related life hack recently. I'm scared to repeat myself. I don't remember it. I don't think so. I have stumbled on maybe the greatest life hack of the last decade for me. My wife and I realized this last time we went to Costco. We were leaving.
Starting point is 00:06:48 We grabbed a slice of pizza and a soda, as we often do. And I was walking out the door, and I was lamenting. that I hate getting a fountain drink and then leaving the place immediately because I'm given up on the opportunity to get free refills. Okay. And I always feel like that's a part of the transaction.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Like it's factored in. Like I'm paying more for the initial drink because they expect me to get refills, you know? And so I thought that day, and I thought I may have mentioned this to you guys, but I guess I didn't, what if next time we go to Costco, we go in through the exit,
Starting point is 00:07:22 buy our slices of pizza and our soda immediately and then shop while eating pizza and drinking soda and then at any point in time if I run out of soda I can just walk back to the front of the store and get a free refill and then go back to doing soda and let me tell you something we fucking did it Sunday and it's maybe the greatest life hack of all time I was pushing a cart with one hand eating a slice of pepperoni pizza with the other and then whenever I needed to, big old sip of soda. Everybody around me looked jealous as fuck. We were the only people in the store doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 They don't make it easy to do, by the way. They don't like you to cross over that line between leaving and entering. We had to finagle our way back and forth, clearly, and I got the impression that maybe some of the employees weren't jazzed about it, but nobody said anything, and I had so much fucking soda, and I was
Starting point is 00:08:13 it is the best way to shop with a fountain's ring. That sounds fantastic. But why wouldn't you just go in the entrance, go all the way through to the soda, leave and then come back in. There's no way to... There's really no way to cross over. Yeah, you gotta go through a cashier.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's tight. It's hard to get around. It's much easier to... It's impossible to do with a cart. I just want to express that I do this and then just... Good. Go and walk through and eat and drink as we're doing our shopping. I thought this was like a very like normal thing.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Never seen anybody else do it. Never seen anybody else in the store do it. Now once again... Wow, that's crazy. I'm on Jeff's side. I'm curious how Gavin feels about this life hack. Oh, I don't want it. I don't want the soda.
Starting point is 00:08:56 No, no, I'm not the specifics of it. If it counts as a life hack, do you think that this is a life hack? Yeah, I mean, if you're doing something against the, uh, the flow that they intend, I'd say that's a life hack. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You're doing something in a different way.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah. To achieve a better result. And that result is a hell of a lot of free diet coke. Yeah. Like, I want to be clear. I'm for this. I do this. Yeah, I think this is awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I hadn't even thought about it as a life hack. I just thought of it as a thing that you do at Costco. But I'm all for it, man. Hell yeah. I just never, never seen anybody else do it. Okay, next thing I learned that happened at Costco. I want to share with you guys.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I saw a hot new toy. I imagine this is going to be hitting the shelves pretty soon. Okay. I took a photo of it because I couldn't believe it existed. Let's see. But I want to see what you guys think about this. And if you want to get in on this, maybe. Let me go ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Sorry, I'm trying to. Get the file now. We're about to see... Fart Ninjas! Costco has a whole display of fart ninjas. It's the hottest new toy, apparently. 10 option-activated fart sounds. Fart ninjas.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Oh, they're sounds. But you get a box of five little ninjas that are like action figures, and I guess also they fart. What, you squeeze them with something? I don't tell, man, I didn't buy them, but I just... Wait, wait, you, that's a toy that exists.
Starting point is 00:10:24 You were at the font ninjas and didn't think, I should see what these are all about. I took the photo to show you guys. We can always go back and buy them. Trust me. I'm sure they have a ton of it. It does feel like a product that you would create. Grand Master Malador, I'm looking at their names. Foo Man Pew, Kung Fumes, Cobra Cop Crop Dust.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Jesus Christ. I think I looked at these and was disappointed that there does, It doesn't appear to be any actual scent related to them at a glance. It's just a sound? Yeah, it appears to sound. Yeah, just to be sound, yeah. And I was like, oh, that's kind of, I feel like you're missing the point. That's where we are.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We're at the cross-section where we thought to make ninjas the most silent assassins in our pop culture farders. Well, it says it right there. It's silent, silent but deadly. Yeah, I guess so. Mine would be Catanoss. Oh. This product feels like somebody watched Beverly Hills Ninja
Starting point is 00:11:23 and was like, what if we just take this joke and make it a toy line? Let's just sell a bunch of fart ninjas. Anyway, I don't know if anybody else is into fart ninjas, but they got him at Costco.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I will say that Bowser does not look thrilled to be next to the fart ninjas. He is bra. They got a lot of that big ass Bowser there too. They also are selling pinball machines now.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I showed Gavin a picture. They had a Star Wars pinball machine for like five grand. Wow. Crazy. I feel like you're gaining a little bit of an addiction, Jeff. I'm not, all right. I'm not getting an addiction, but I do have a pinball. We do have pinball to talk about. But one last thing. My wife and I were eating our pizza as we're a shop walking around
Starting point is 00:12:05 Costco. And maybe this is something that Eric's going to be like, oh, I thought everybody said this. I've been doing this for years. But I had never heard her say it, and we've been together over eight years. My wife, when she was done with their pizza, she said, do you want my pizza bones? and she was talking about the crust. I've heard pizza bones. I've never heard pizza crust referred to as pizza bones before.
Starting point is 00:12:24 In my entire life, she's never said it before. Are you okay? Andrew just said he's heard it before. Are you okay with that? Yeah, I'm okay with it. I just had never heard it. Could we make a pizza with a skeleton? What would it be the shape of the thing?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Or what does the skeleton on the inside look like? What is the skeleton? I don't know. I just like the idea of eating a pizza off the bones. That sounds terrible. I hate that. I mean, do you like it? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I found a picture of bone structure of pizza. I think that's what the Star Wars movie. It does. Snorlax. Like eating stuff off a bone, for me, I feel like is nice. I like eating meat off a rib. But I'm not a wing. It's worse.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's worse. The only value of it is that the bone provides flavor. I don't know what the bone does for the pizza. Is it providing more pizza flavor? What is the value of the bone? So wait, if you wanted ribs, would you try it? Would you prefer them to not arrive with the bones? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'd rather have, if there's a boned food, I'd probably prefer it boneless by and large. I mean, steak is- You'd rather have ribless, you don't have boneless ribs, Eric? Absolutely. And I guess I don't think I've ever had boneless ribs. I, like, didn't even know that was like a thing. But when you think of wings, like, the boneless to me is just such a, like, easier pick every time.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Now, I will say, with the boneless ribs, when I think of boneless ribs, it's the micrib, and that's horrible. But I think there's a way to do it right. It's a, not a rib. It's a pressed rib-like barbecue-flavored meat substitute. How do you get boneless wings? Do they just pull them out? I don't know. I think it's just, I think it's a processed chicken.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I think it's a processed chicken differently. I think they hit the chickens with like a bone vaporizing ring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Takes out the beak, the eyes and the bones. I know, I've said, I've said 10,000 ridiculous things to Gavin's one, but the premise that to make boneless wings that they don't just make him the same way they make nuggets, but instead get to the point where they're about to be finalized. They go, uh, uh, uh, we're going to take the bones. So, wait, what? It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I've never had him. What, what is it then? What are they? They're just nuggets. They're just nuggets with like wing sauces on them Is how I'm not actually wing Well I mean it's the same I think it's supposed to be the same meat
Starting point is 00:14:51 But I don't think in making them They just extract the bones I think they just make nuggets and then Yeah, start meat Yeah So oh But I really like your idea I prefer to imagine a factory where there's a section of
Starting point is 00:15:06 Just deboning for the final state Like they separate I just thought they would like orient them in a machine and the bone to be pressed out. Boneless wings are not actual chicken wings that have been deboned. They are pieces of chicken breast meat that are breaded, fried,
Starting point is 00:15:20 and tossed in wing sauce. I feel like that's full sabotizing. I'm going back to Jeff's idea of the deboning ray. I think we should shoot chickens. I like it. Same with the debon ring, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Let's let science take care of it. Finally. I'm sure I could I could make boneless wings. What? Okay. it was all right show us the issue isn't if it can be done
Starting point is 00:15:46 at what point do you pick up the process of making boneless wings like where are like are you I assume you're not killing the chicken plucking the chicken and like making it happen there so at what point are you picking up and running with the boneless wing like are you inventing the ray
Starting point is 00:16:02 I think it'll be the last part of the process it is it's underrated joke Jeff that's great thank you thank you I think you're not into wing culture is what I'm gathering I've never had to
Starting point is 00:16:16 I've never eaten a wing You've never had a chicken wing Let's put it on the list Can we Can we just keep a running list In the office on a wall Of things that people haven't done That they should absolutely do
Starting point is 00:16:27 How have you not had a wing? I mean I know Once again How have you not had an egg? I know I know I know I know That's what I said I know I know
Starting point is 00:16:33 I know But I feel like Gavin would like wings I just I've watched somebody eat wings I watched all the orange like seep into their face and lips and I just thought that looks freaking there is no way Gavin would like the experience of eating a wing
Starting point is 00:16:49 like a wing with buffalo sauce it's too messy for him I've had like wing meat I've like eating a chicken but I've never ordered just a plate of wings I don't know what to do with that clip
Starting point is 00:17:07 but I want to I want to see it yeah yeah it's pretty I like the premise of saying, no, I've had like wagoo. I've had cow. I get it. I know what it is. I've eaten the animal. Therefore, I've had every variation of it. I mean, I had a hamburger yesterday, so I've basically had prime rib. I think I've got bird confidence. I've got like, like I think I can make decent quail sliders too, but I'm sure you could. So are you going to make these or eat them? I'm sorry. What's that now? The wings? Chicken wings. Yeah. Are you, is your confidence towards making them or eat them?
Starting point is 00:17:40 eating them. Oh, just preparing them. Okay. So I've, say I've got the wings cooked, right? It's a real wing, though. Bold, but okay. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I then have to put on the wing sauce. How you cooking them? Oh, shit. Is a wing, is a boneless wing fried or just normal? Yeah, those are the options. There's a lot of different ways to do it, yeah. Fried boneless wings. I also, if you, please put the sauce on before you cook it, man.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Oh, it's a pre-cook thing. Yeah. Well, if you're making it from scratch, it doesn't have to be. Does it? But you're going to be basing it the entire time you're cooking it, probably. Yeah. I'll have to do some research on this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 If you want to cook wings in the office and have like a Gavin's, Gavin's Wing video kind of thing, I highly support that. I'm all about it. We can do it at my house if we need to use a grill. Yeah, because I think the result would be interesting. I gave it to, I serve it up, and you have to tell me what's better, boneless wings or boneless wings.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay. Okay. Okay. We can do that. Let's do that. All right. Yeah. Somebody write that down. Put on the bit barrel.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So he's going to make quail sliders. Uh-huh. And he's also going to make boneless wings. And when asked, how are you going to cook the boneless wings? He said, I'll cook these. How? Ooh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Well, I have a. obviously I've never eaten them or cook them have to do a little bit of research Do you want to still like take you to pluckers or something Or so are they boneless Are they boneless legs? What? Like can you get a boneless thigh or like other pieces of chicken?
Starting point is 00:19:24 No No no no They're just they're just nuggets Yeah Just branded differently What sauce do you think you'd use? Oh that's the question That's a great question
Starting point is 00:19:37 I mean that's the thing gab you go to a place like pluckers or wing stop, they're going to have 30 different sauces for you to choose from. Like the chicken, and you might not know this as not being a wing officiantio, but the chicken is basically the sauce delivery mechanism at the end of the day. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You got lemon pepper, karaoke, Cabanero, Buffalo, salt and pepper. So you're all big wings guys. Yeah. I think we're normal wings guys.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not even a big wings guy. I don't really like or dislike wings. They're just sort of a wing to me, but like I felt like this was pretty common knowledge stuff. I'm very surprised through this whole thing, that you don't know anything about it. It's like very surprised.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, I don't know that I'm a wing guy either, but I do like a wing. I will say Millie went through about a year in high school where she was super into wings. And so Millie and Emily and I would go to Buffalo Wild Wings together all the time. So I may be over-indexed a bit for a while. But yeah. Well, maybe if I got an invite to one of those,
Starting point is 00:20:37 I wouldn't be in such a pickle right now. Why you want to bring pickles into this? Do you want to... Yeah, I'm thinking like if there'd be a Brantston-y type sauce. Or salad cream wing. Brantston and boneless? Boneless Brantzton. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But you have to get all the little boneless bites and line them up like a person. Boneless, Brantston special. Line them up like a person. Yeah, like do like a stick figure, but instead of... like the sticks, it's the nuggets, do some feet and legs, arms, and then you have the Boneless Branson. A Gavin's specialty. You haven't lived until you've had Gavin's Brantston's bites. I mean, I still think an egg is more mental to not eat than a wing, though. Oh yeah, I'm not arguing that. Absolutely. Like, I'm, without a doubt, I'm missing some key things,
Starting point is 00:21:33 but I was just surprised. I think we need to do two things here. I think we need to take Gavin's out to eat wings and have a good six or seven flavors. But also obviously we need to have Gavin make wings. Now the question is, do we take Gavin out to eat wings before he makes wings? Yeah, it's a great question. Or should we have him make the wings first side unseen and then take him to eat
Starting point is 00:21:52 wings? Because it's two different situations. It's one where he goes, now I know what to do, and then there's a second situation where we take him out to the wing second and he goes, oh, it's what I was supposed to do. Yeah. And I don't I don't know which is funnier. This is a genuine question and you're probably the only person that I know, Gavin, that I would ask this. How do you feel about salt and pepper?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like, are you okay with them? They're a hell of a combo, bud. Do you view it as a waste of time? Like, I don't, with your perception of seasoning, I just don't know how to, like, factor it. I'll be honest, I think I've only ever used salt and pepper when I just watched someone else use it. I would never think to use it myself. So it's not like a taste that you ever seek or go like, oh, that's nice. Well, I just don't know about the combos.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Like, you can you put, you can't put pepper on anything, can you? Well, I mean, it's the base of so many things. Like, if you're grilling or you're cooking really any meat, like salt and pepper. What things, Gavin, can you give me an example of something? that you could put pepper on and then something you should not put pepper on. Well, I think that's what I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Right, right. That's what I'm asking, like, if you have to take a guess, you don't know shit about wings, but you think you can make them. I probably wouldn't put pepper on. Would I put it on a sandwich? No, maybe I would.
Starting point is 00:23:21 No, you could have pepper on a sandwich. Yeah, you can't. What about salt? Yeah. Well, wait, wait, wait. You could always put both on, Kadi. Would you put pepper on cereal?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Well, no. Peanut butter and jelly? No. I think so. Hmm. Hot food. Is it a hot food thing? It can't be?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Is there a hot food that wouldn't go... Put it on soup. Put it on... I'm trying to think of a cold food that I'd want to salt and pepper. This is the craziest. Like, I'm like, I'm like so stunned. I didn't think this is where the episode was going. I don't know about flavors.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I don't have any food. Like, if I eat food, I don't have any information about it other than, like, it was, I liked it or I didn't like it. Some people are like, I really enjoyed the way that this, the sweetness cuts through the, I don't know, like, what? Acidity. Yeah. Huh? Like, like, it's, you really just want to eat protein cubes and you really want your final, your fourth course to be the check and go home. Like, this is awful.
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Starting point is 00:26:30 Absolutely incredible. Air. Fly the seven-time world's best leisure airline champions, Air Transat. Gavin and I had a talk recently where I realized that the way Gavin views 120 frames per second is how I view a slushy. Like he, the way that I value food but don't see the value, like it doesn't matter to me. The other thing, like that's what our interchangeable thing is. For me, it's food.
Starting point is 00:26:56 For him, it's like graphics and fidelity. To me, it was bugging me that the remake of gears has, it's like four. Okay, 60, but the cutscenes are not 60. Like 30 or 24, and it was annoying me. And Andrew was like, I didn't even notice. I would never notice. I would never notice either. Yeah, maybe I'm fussy in the wrong areas. You just fussing in your areas. Yeah, you have your own fuzziness.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And that's fine. Yeah. You're doing okay. Nothing wrong with not being a food person. It's, uh, you have your own fuss. We all have our own fussiness. And it's not even that you're not a food person. It's just that you like the efficiency of the feud, of the, of the, feud of the food cube, but you still appreciate when the food cube tastes good, you just don't know
Starting point is 00:27:38 how or why it tastes good. But to me, opinions on food are binary. It's just like on or off. Like, I like it or I don't. And that's the end of my opinion. So you're not like kombucha girl. What's that? I would say, Gavin, I'm having a hard time thinking of a cold food I'd season. I wouldn't season job. What about? What about gazpacho? Oh, potato salad.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Oh, potato salad's a good one. Yeah, that's kombucha. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, it can't be cold too. No, yeah, I've seen that. You've seen that? No, yeah, I wish I enjoyed food more. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Have you tried? Yeah, maybe that journey can start today. How do you try and get enjoyment of something? Have you fucking tried? I didn't. I didn't mean. in the tone that Eric delivered. You're acting like I'm like whack-a-molling my emotions when I make sure.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I'm like, don't have an opinion on this. It's not, how can you try? No, no, no. You could try by like learning how to cook certain things and like experimenting with like, if I put this in it, then it tastes like this as opposed to if I put this in it. What do I like more? Oh, it turns out I actually learned that I like, uh, I don't know, a lemon pepper a lot more than I would have guessed.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Like, have you experimented in the sense of, like, you've attempted to make food or try foods that have different ranges and then evaluate how you feel about them? You need to have your RIME getting electrocuted on top of the roof moment. I think if I cook something myself, it'll be like a five out of ten, right? And if I make modifications, it will only ever be a different five. What the fuck is a different five? What? Just like, it's never, I've never improved or deep-de-proved. I've just never made a meaningful modification, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:40 My question was essentially, have you ever attempted to meaningfully invest in food? And I just don't think that that's a thing that you would understand. Not in a negative, I just don't think your brain works in a way that, like, I don't think you're capable of it. Like I just don't think that's for you And that's okay Well I mean my favorite drink is water I don't think I'm off to a great start
Starting point is 00:30:04 But like What's interesting is you What I think is interesting is Is like your favorite drink is water And that's totally fine There's nothing wrong with that I feel like you haven't tried A lot of other things
Starting point is 00:30:19 But I genuinely believe it's the best drink Like it tastes the best Well it doesn't taste anything Okay, I mean Your favorite flavor is absence of flavor Well, there are different textures And like I do think there's a range to water But what I just think is interesting
Starting point is 00:30:36 Is that you've made this declaration While also Never trying a slurpy or being like I wonder what this tastes like For such a curious person You have such a lack of food curiosity Well, I'm just not like I'm not a sugar guy You're not listed anything that isn't just like
Starting point is 00:30:54 40 grabs of sugar. But how do you know you're not a sugar guy? It's like, yeah. I've tried, I've tried sodas. Okay. Fair enough. I just, I feel like, once again, it's sort of relating to the cow thing
Starting point is 00:31:08 of just because you've had sugar doesn't mean that you have necessarily, like there could be a version of a sugary thing that you like, potentially. Maybe not, though. What about iced tea? It might not. No, too, no.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I just more find it, interesting that I think you're probably the most curious person I know, but in this specific regard that is, I think, a general curiosity for a lot of people, zero interest at all. And that's not a judgment in the slightest. It's just, I think, interesting. I don't think Gavin's the most, I think Gavin is the most niche curious person, but I don't think he's curious about a lot of the world. That's fair. I just, I view him as the most scientifically curious. Sure. I go with that. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Are there any other types of curiosities you have, Gavin, outside of science? Like lenses, right? Like filmmaking? Like, I feel like you have an interest in how shit is made, how the thing you're seeing. I think you're a very visually curious person. I think my favorite thing in the world is to see an invisible thing. There you go. Okay. Okay. Like, I think that's too fast or too slow or like infrared or thermal. It's all wicked. Love it. Seeing something you're not supposed to be able to see.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. Like, better than eyeballs. Yeah, I get that. I just think you're pro-eyes, anti-tongue. You can get rid of the tongue, you would. You don't need it. I mean, I feel like you're curious. Like, what do you think keeps you in the tub so long?
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'll be on my phone. I'll just be looking at stuff. I like the work in the tub. I find it relaxing. Okay, well, what gets you out of the tub? Is it the shrivel, like, you'd get too shriveled, or too cold? I just feel like getting out at that point. I've accomplished everything I want to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But this becomes a point, too, where, like, you've gone past comfort into, you know, like you've achieved the maximum comfort you can have in a thing, like a nap or sitting down. Yeah, I guess it's why, like, there's no massage that's, like, five hours long. Because after 90 minutes, you're like, I'm excruciating. Okay, I'm relaxed. For me, it's a process of one,
Starting point is 00:33:19 and if I'm doing certain work where I can just work it on my phone, great. Like I just find I work well in that environment. And also just if I'm trying to come up with ideas for content, I find it's a great place to do that for me. Just sit and just think about nothing in a comfortable space. Yeah, but what's different in there than it would be on like the couch or a bed? I've less distractions if I want. Like I could I could make the room very dark and I can just sit and either sometimes I won't have my phone if I'm trying to think of stuff and just it's a very isolating space for me i feel like other people aren't going to come into it and that i'll have to interact with them like i feel when i am in the bathtub that like i am
Starting point is 00:34:05 in a do not disturb or as much of a do not disturb state as i can be have you ever been one of those in one of those sensory deprivation tank egg things no no thank you uh see to me that's like that's like ultimate tub that's like maximum tub yeah why wouldn't you want that I'm not claustrophobic. I don't know. I just don't like the idea of being locked in a big chamber thing. Well, your house is a big chamber. Yeah, but I have so many more entries of exit as opposed to... You got two entries in access to the bathroom? But I'm not like locked in.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I don't think you're locked... I think you're locked in the sensory deprivation tank. Maybe what I imagine a sensory deprivation tank looks like is not at all what it looks like. You think there's a big padlock on the outside? No, it's just, I've seen too many final destinations. Oh, okay. I don't need it, and I feel like it's the backdrop for somehow getting killed by the isolation tank. I've seen way more bathtub murders in films.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's what Andrew thinks a deprivation tank is. Oh, if that's what it was, I would be more into it. Yeah, I feel like you can see it. In my mind, it's like a hot water tank, but larger. But that's what a bath is. No, but it's open top. I'll tell you what a deprivation tank is. It's what all the fucking QAnon idiots say is a medbed, honestly.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's just that. Oh, that doesn't look that bad. That looks dumb. This is a tub with a lid. Yeah, that looks dumb. That's what I was imagining was a lot worse. What were you imagining? As I said, like a hot water tank, but larger.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Like a metal circular thing you would climb into. Yeah, that just looks goofy. That's fine. That's like a swimming. It's like a tub without walls. You know, so you got a little bit of room to relax. And they have a purple light in it and it's, yeah. No, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I thought it was lights off in there. I didn't realize it was a purple light. Yeah, I think you're supposed to be lights off. I think the entire point is zero senses. I've never done one. I haven't either, but I'm pretty sure that's the point because don't they put like enough salt in it that like you can't even tell that you're floating or something?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Like it changes the field. It's like the Dead Sea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. North Austin, True Rest, premier float spa. We could do this.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Sensory deprivation tanks in Austin. I don't. I feel like I want Andrew to do it. You got any on the Nanaimo? Let me look. Any on the Nanaimo? I'm sure I did. What if that building that I picked
Starting point is 00:36:37 that you can't find it? What if that was it? That could be it. Harbor City Float. Location in the Nimo. Yeah, man. Harbor City Float could either be a flotation tank.
Starting point is 00:36:47 company or a seaplane company. Yeah, but it says they offer sensory deprivation flip tank therapy. In the seaplane. You take flight, we lock you in, you're not going to see nothing, it's great. I feel like this could unlock new levels of relaxation for you.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Maybe. Yeah. I bet if Andrew likes it, there will be a sleep deprivation chamber on his balcony within six months. The cheapest, most inflatable, like just, yeah. I like it. I have a question
Starting point is 00:37:21 while we're talking a lot about Gavin there's something that we talked about discussing last episode that we never got to that I've been thinking about since that point. What did Ray get you for your wedding, Gavin? We keep hearing about it, but we don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:39 We don't know what it is. I've heard it so many times. It was an incredible gift. He got me a signed copy of X-ray and Vavs season one and two. Signed by Ray. Signed by Ray. That's what I was going to ask. Who signed it?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Wow. Yeah. That's really funny. That's incredible. Meg must have been over the moon. I think he was like mainly suggesting it is like if this would be funny to give me. And then I was like, is it funny if I actually take it there? And he was like, yeah, take it.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So now it's genuinely on my my bookshelf. Speaking of your wife, Meg, I was hanging out with her on Saturday without you as per usual. Yeah. And I was telling her, Saturday specifically, that fucking pinball machine you guys gave me might be the best gift I've ever received in my entire life. I don't know that I've had that much fun in years. As you all know, the last podcast, was it the last podcast? Eric mentioned that he got the high score on the pinball machine?
Starting point is 00:38:39 That is correct, yes. Yeah, he beat my score. So luckily, my wife was out of town on Saturday for most of the day. She came home Saturday evening. And so I just got up on Saturday And I drove to the office And I just said, I'm just going to play pinball Until I beat Eric's score.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And it was like being transported back in the 1977, I assume, and being at a bowling alley Or a bar somewhere. The whole fucking house shakes When the pinball machine is on, it's in like this dark, musty, wooden room. I was transported to a different time. The hours melted away.
Starting point is 00:39:13 If you told me I was in there for 10 hours straight, would have believed you. If you told me an hour, I would have believed you. I just, I couldn't, I can't tell you like the Z. Like, if that's what pinballing is, I hit a level of Zen. I haven't had in so many years. And of course, I was very excited to tell you guys
Starting point is 00:39:29 when I beat Eric's score. Now, there's some King of Kong erasure. It needs to be known. I have the top scoring. Right, right, right. We're working on, uh, and part of the reason I did this also is because Andrew on Friday night let us know that via the digital version of the game,
Starting point is 00:39:45 he got the high score 8.6 million or something. But the cabinet high score was Eric with 6.64 million. So I beat that and now it's 6.69 million. So I beat it by 5,000 points. What I didn't tell you guys, though, later in the day is I wasn't done. So I beat it again just because I was having so much fun playing pinball. So now it's 6.8. I think it's 88.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Still totally within range of beating it. Eric can definitely take the score and return to the front page. Rat back on top, baby. Number one rat. You'll get there. But in all seriousness, Gavin, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I genuinely have not had that much fun gaming. It was better than any... At that time I spent playing Earthshaker on Saturday was better than any video game I've played in the last five years. It was... I love that. It was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You were posting your score updates and then Andrew was posting little clips. So, ground level. We had a stream on the Friday of me trying to beat the high score and then I kept playing it. Mainly because I knew if I beat it, that would incentivize one of you to go into the office and I wanted to film you as Dilbot playing on the machine. So I popped in once, nobody was there, or I guess you were there. I got stuck and then I left and then I came back and I saw that the door was open again.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And yeah, I got 40 minutes of Jeff playing pinball from the back view. Just pure joy. I was watching all this happen in the Slack and then I thought, I'll, let me hop on the old security camera and I could just, I could hear Jeff at the other room rail it on the pinball machine. And then you see a little doorbot like it through the door like running it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 It looked like a little kid watching his dad or something because he was parked behind him on the floor, look it up. It's a really fun cap. Anyway, I think that this, this pinball machine is going to become, uh, I, I think our, mark by which we rate regulation things. I want to get something on the wall where we can list. We can have anytime we have a guest come in, we can let them take a shot at it, see if they
Starting point is 00:41:49 can be, it could be like, we've talked about it before, right? But it had it be like our top gear stig time and that whole thing. I just, it's just perfect. The pinball machine is just perfect. And I'm super open to the idea of getting more. Hell yeah. I don't know if we necessarily, like I really like that we're all mastering one cabinet. No, for sure, for sure. And it's also a thing where I feel like the scores can be beaten at any time because I didn't go above three million points until I hit 8.9. Like I had just every game I was like 2.5, 2.2, 2.3. And then I had the 8.7. And it just feels like anyone can have one of those games at any moment. I think that 6.8 million game, I think I had going into the third ball, I think I had like 1.4 million points.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And then you just like, you go on on a run. And then when I died, I, I had my ball locked in and I just needed to get the second ball locked and I would have had another multi-ball. So another earth shaker. So, yeah, when you just got to catch a wave on that thing and then you're off to the races. Nick, have you had to go yet?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Not yet. I still have not played the pinball cabinet at all. Nick's going to end up getting like $12 million in his second play. I'm scared of Nick's pinball skill. First game, he's going to be like, oh, I guess I broke the race. Based on how it went at the Vegas Museum,
Starting point is 00:43:10 You don't have anything to worry about. We definitely got to keep Ray away from it. I don't want to look at Ray's high score for it. That's rough too because his name fits. It's such a fun evolution of like every pinball experience I've had is like you just hit the flippers and try to not have the ball going in the hole. And now being in a place of like, okay, so I want to aim for this ramp. This ramp will mean this.
Starting point is 00:43:30 If I go this way, it will increase this modifier. Like having an understanding and an actual goal and purpose to the flipping has been so much fun. I have five actual shots that I attempt now, you know, or like I know which, like exactly how to hit to go for these certain areas and they're like the five shots I cycled through and that's pretty, yeah, it's fucking, mm-mm-mm. So cool. It's a great cabin. Speaking of, I went out Saturday night and I celebrated my high scores by playing bingo with the ladies. Obviously, I went and played bingo with all of your wives.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And got a little hungry. Went to Matt's snack. where we usually, I usually get cheddar fries. Sometimes I get some tater tots. They have a hamburger. I've been thinking about getting, but it just seemed like an investment on a Saturday night that I wasn't ready to make. And I just had the wildest craving.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And so I got one of these guys. What? Ridiculous. I know I'm off hot dogs, but I had one more. I had one more hot dog. And it was great. You said things hit different at the bingo hall.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Is that largely arthritis? Like what's the... What's the age demographic at that bingo hall? Oh, dude, I'm 50 and I am a spry young man at the bingo. I love it. For me going to bingo, it's like me taking all of my younger sisters to bingo or my daughter and her friends. It's like me and Meg and Emily and Barbara and Tina and the whole group,
Starting point is 00:45:06 Vanessa. And yeah, and then just a bunch of people with oxygen tanks. It seems really hard to win. You guys have been going a while and no one's won. No, but yeah, no. Meg came pretty close last night, as did Tina, I think, or Saturday, but yeah. I feel like I would like to see how Eric gets on there because he's always winning sloppy Joe's bingo. Yeah, but I just, yeah, but these people are like locked in and my wife was telling me about how you have your cards and then a computer has their cards and then you can't call bingo until the guy says the number or letter and there's like.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Why would you call Bingo before the guy says the number? Hey, hey, Jeff, why would they do that? If you want to explain it to Gavin, go ahead. I can happily explain it. So what happens when Bingo runs is there's monitors all up around the building that you can see, like computer monitors or TV screens
Starting point is 00:45:56 that are all fed in onto the ball, right? And so he'll call, the first ball will come up, B1 or whatever, right? He calls it. Then the next ball pops up. Then there's a period of 10 or 15 seconds where everybody sees that that number is like 070. And they go, okay, and everybody's marking down 070. If you immediately mark it down and you realize you've got bingo, you're tempted to go,
Starting point is 00:46:15 bingo, right? But it's not official and locked in till the man says, oh, 70, then he picks the next ball. So you just have to wait till they acknowledge that it's 070, and it's like officially entered into the record. And then you can yell bingo. People just get excited and they jump the gun. You'd know that if you asked Meg about bingo ever. I mean, I feel like it's...
Starting point is 00:46:37 I feel like English bingo has the funny names, though. Like what? Yeah, but American bingo has the sad people. Like American bingo is like a letter than a number. English bingo is just a number, but each number has like a little, like, Winnie the Pooh, 42. Well, Danny LaRue. Yeah, we don't have Danny Leroux or Winnie the Pooh.
Starting point is 00:47:02 If they went that slowly, the people in American bingo would revolt. Sometimes they'll be like a wild. So some bingoes, there's like a million different kinds of bingo, right? So sometimes you'll be playing a bingo and there'll be a wild number. So like if it ends in a five,
Starting point is 00:47:21 you can blank out anything on the board that ends in five, right? But then if a random bingo number will pop up, like B-I-15 will pop up and the guy doesn't, like he'll immediately move it because that's a dead ball because it's already been marked.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But if they don't see it, for, if they wait more than one second, people bang on the glass. Like that. And the guy goes, all right, I know, I know,
Starting point is 00:47:44 I got it, I got it. I was just checking it, making sure you're paying attention. And they keep going, people do not fuck around. They don't want to hear about Danny LaRue or skippity do or flibb or jibba jab.
Starting point is 00:47:56 They want to know what the next number is to know if they got bingo or not. So they can yell when somebody else gets it. Because that's the other cool thing about the bingo that I go to is when you hear somebody yell bingo you hear this fuck my 30 people and that's the best part of bingo and I'm the loudest one of them I relish
Starting point is 00:48:15 it is a place where you go and it is you have to be so quiet if you talk you will get shushed and then when bingo happens everybody's allowed to express themselves so you know I am as loud as humanly possible every chance I get and I delight in it and also if
Starting point is 00:48:31 if the girls talk I shush them so loud. My favorite thing to do is shush Vanessa. She looks horrified. I'm sure she loves getting shushed. Yeah, yeah. And then as soon as somebody would, you just go,
Starting point is 00:48:44 God damn it! And then it's fine. Time for T. E3. They'd throw their walkers at you. Yeah. Cains would be flying at the stage. You're doing your little jingles.
Starting point is 00:48:58 You'd be like, talk too much, you get a punch. I want reverse bingo. I want the bingo hall to be filled. And when you get a bingo, you have to leave. You're eliminated. You have to physically leave the venue. Last one standing wins.
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Starting point is 00:50:12 Experience it only in theaters Friday. Get tickets now. I just looked down and when I banged on the table, I cut my hand open somehow. No! Are you okay? Yeah. What the fuck? You're such a bleeder these days.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I know. I think it must be getting thin old man skin or something. What did you punch the thumb tech? No, I just like I just like punched the table a bunch And I just looked out on my knuckles all raw Is it The same hand that you cut
Starting point is 00:50:43 On the on the fish tank? I don't know That's the fucking idea Well you have a 50% chance I feel like you remember how many hand I don't remember what hand it was I'm just curious because you know how like Boxers develop scar tissue in their face
Starting point is 00:50:57 That it could be a hand thing Oh you finger popped Wow, you really banged it up, bud. Yeah, God, man. Ridiculous. Anyway, Bingo's fun. Bingo's ridiculous. Bingo does seem fun.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And I ate a hot dog. I'm sorry, I ate a hot dog, but I did enjoy it. And it doesn't mean I'm back on hot dogs or anything. I just like, I don't know, man. It just felt right in the moment. You're back on hot dogs. I think you're back on hot dogs. Do you need a thing where, like, every hot dog you eat during burger season
Starting point is 00:51:30 subtracts a burger. Whoa. That's interesting because it doesn't. Yeah. Actually uneat the food. No, it's interesting. Yeah, maybe it's just a scoring
Starting point is 00:51:45 game. Interesting. Very interesting. Not a contest, of course. No, it's not a contest. Dude, in my stream, the people are getting so fucking pedantic about what is and isn't a hamburger.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's driving me nuts. And it's like, well, it's, you know, and it's like, we should be weighing it. It's like, it's really about how much ground beef a year you're eating. I'm like, that's not what it is at all. It's nowhere near that. Why do people want to extract the fun
Starting point is 00:52:11 out of the thing? You don't want to get clarification. It's, it's, I appreciate, like, the, yeah, wanting specifics, but we're doing this with hot dogs. There is none of this. I asked, does a hot dog dog count as one?
Starting point is 00:52:26 The answer was yes. And it's like, okay, well, then, that anything is a hot dog. Regardless of how big it is, like it's not weight-based. You can get some tiny hot dogs. People are constantly trying to find ways to game the hot dog
Starting point is 00:52:38 or hamburger counting system, which is so arbitrary and not important, I just don't understand. Well, I wonder if it's a thing where hamburgers are so much more popular that people are worried about their own numbers. Oh, I see. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Everybody, everybody I talk to seems to think, except for like one or two people in chats, seems to think that 150 is an insane number to hit. And I'm the one that's like, I don't think so. I don't think it's insane. I think you're going to be surprised. I think 150 is not as many as you think it is. If I didn't have to consider my wife
Starting point is 00:53:13 and what she's going to eat and like dinners and all that stuff, like together, I could, I would eclipse that number. If I went to McDonald's once a week for a year, I would hit the record. Because my, my order at McDonald's Now three cheeseburgers. I don't want fries anymore. I'm done with fries. And I don't want a Big Mac. I've had enough big Macs. So now I just get three simple. You're done with fries? Yeah, for right now. I'll eat a waffle fry or a curly fry, but I'm just kind of done with plain ass fries. I don't know. Well, some good news for you, Jeff. Right now in Canada, we got the Shania Twain collab happening with McDonald's. And you can get you some all-dressed mix shaker fries.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Jesus, this don't stop bleeding. If you put a small fry or a cheeseburger in front of me and said you can only eat one, I'm eating the fry, the hamburger, a hundred percent of the time. So why not just order three cheeseburgers and give up fries altogether? My point being, one order at McDonald's is a week's hamburgers, according to the list.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I think a French fry is sometimes better than the burger. I disagree. I disagree. That's fine. I think fries are fine. When, Andrew, have you had the McShaker? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Did they impress you much? Oh, they impressed me so much, Eric. Every time you take one fry, I just go, Oh, I feel like a woman. Whoa! And there's a lot of fries. It's a lot of fries, so it happens a lot. I don't think Jeff, Jeff didn't hear you explain what this was.
Starting point is 00:54:46 No, he didn't. He really tuned out and was locked in on his thing. That's exciting. But he's looking at this photo. don't impress him much. Oh, it's the Shania Twain. I got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:59 They look good. There's no burger on the thing, so he's like, I don't care. Are you hoarding any of the seasoning or sauce or anything? Oh, yeah, I am. What are you hoarding? The strawberry pie? No, I don't care about the pie. Pie is mid.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I have on my desk right now, three bags of the McShaker fries bags. Oh, my God. So Shania Twine. Wayne only eats fries and a pie? What? Also key chains. Which are not displayed there. Or maybe it is. Is that on the fry bag the little keychain?
Starting point is 00:55:33 Why do you think she only eats fries? Because this is her meal. This is her meal, right? Like you get the Travis Scott meal or the Mariah Carey meal or the Mc... Or the Shania Twain. Is this her meal or is this just a collaborator? Is this? I mean, you've got the fries, but do you got the touch?
Starting point is 00:55:51 You know what I'm saying? This is called Shania's sides. Oh, it's just her side. So it's just her sides. So I don't know. Everyone's getting on her about, oh, this is her meal, this is her meal?
Starting point is 00:56:04 These are simply her sides. I've just never seen, I've never seen McDonald's do a side-specific collaboration. Up until about two years ago, we never really saw them do meals either, but things change, Jeff. I guess they do. I think that movie theaters
Starting point is 00:56:18 should do the fast food cele strategy. Oh. I think there should be like, like Denzel Washington movie night and like it comes with his popcorn combo and a movie of his choice. Not even necessarily one of his movies. Just being like, no, I want to, if I'm going to watch a movie in a theater, I think this is a banger. Like Denzel's ultimate combo. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 What is the ultimate? The equal fries. Let me ask you guys this. Popcorn acts. I found out about this from a friend yesterday. So I was talking, I have another podcast called Creating Character and Scorpio Sky, AEW pro wrestler Scorpio Sky said that he goes to AMC, will drive himself to AMC, orders a large popcorn, does not see a movie, just walks out leaves and eats the popcorn.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah, that's fine. Is that normal? This cannot be normal. It blew my fucking mind. Yeah. You drove to the movies with no intention to see the movies. If there's no movie involved, you just bought the most expensive. Expensive popcorn.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah, I'm on board with the idea of going just for the popcorn because it's good. But that was expensive popcorn. Gavin, I love you. I feel like your opinion on this does not hold equal weight to everybody else's. Oh, just because I'm not a big flavor guy. I'm still a price guy. That's like going to the airport for a Fiji water. But there's a difference.
Starting point is 00:57:47 There is a taste. There's a movie popcorn taste that is hard to replicate. in any other form. Let me explain it to you this way. At home, at home, microwavable popcorn, 480P. Movie theater popcorn, 1080P. 1080P. Gavin, Gavin, it's the highest it can go.
Starting point is 00:58:10 1080P. Oh, would you pay a difference, Gavin, for 1080P over 480? You know what, I really fancy a Snickers. Let me head to the hotel mini bar of a Vegas hotel. but it's not the same little 1080-p snickers. You're right, Andrew, but you're also acting like microwave popcorn is the only option at home. There are
Starting point is 00:58:29 a million other ways to make popcorn at home. Sure, absolutely. But a movie theater popcorn has a very specific taste. I mean, if you're quite often buying movie theater popcorn and leaving, you could just not do that for two years and buy a movie theater popcorn maker. There you go. With the same
Starting point is 00:58:45 money. Yeah. And really, I mean, you can just make, you can make stovetop popcorn and just throw a little bit of like that seasoning on it that they have at the movie theater. Andrew is right that I don't think it's the same. It doesn't just taste the same, but it... It's just too
Starting point is 00:59:01 much money. Like, I'm always like relenting when I buy movie theater popcorn. You know, I'm just like, oh, fuck, I go. It's the only place I'm going to get it, so I might as well fucking pay for it. But I'm always mad about it. I wouldn't go out of my way to pay for it, I guess. What gives it that flavor there? What's providing that
Starting point is 00:59:17 extra taste that you can't replicate? I've never worked in them. A certain staleness in the air I'm sure the popcorn kernels are aged in a bag for six months to a year longer
Starting point is 00:59:30 than the ones that you're getting you know there's like there's a lot that goes into it you know I'm sure the popcorn machine hasn't been properly cleaned ever it's this it's just this flavicle
Starting point is 00:59:41 yeah flavicle or whatever so I bought I have it on my desk right now and I've been experimenting with it to try to get the taste you have a flavicle I do I have a flavicle I just ruined a bag of pre-made popcorn
Starting point is 00:59:54 was the problem I put too much in it was just way too salty That's not how it's supposed to work Is my understanding You just pour it on No I don't believe no I don't think that's true I don't think you just pour it on This salt does not supply iodine
Starting point is 01:00:11 A necessary nutrient So wait it's like a nutrient extracted Yeah it's like all the salt With none of the benefit For better tasting popcorn Uh-huh Uh-huh Is this the first time
Starting point is 01:00:24 You're reading the instructions? I'm just asking Yeah, I haven't read the box at all Had desired amount of flavor Cold of corn in kettle Yeah Okay Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah I will say though It has been added a little bit of that taste I have enjoyed a little bit of salt Uh Oh man This sucks I have to cook it
Starting point is 01:00:46 Like what did you expect That you just put it on? It was like a season seasoning salt, yeah. So wait, is it actually, is it a salt then? It's not a liquid in there? No, it's salt. It's a salt, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Why is it like an orange juice cart? Because they poured into the machines and like huge amounts. Because it's really old and the only people who are supposed to use it are a movie theater, so they don't have to update or change anything. And then sometimes guys on podcasts buy some and just put it on pre-made popcorn and go, and this ain't working. Like that picture that's on the side of that popcorn making. get that for like 250 bucks.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Right. If anything, it worked too much was the issue I've had. The only time it's went wrong. It was the equivalent of like watching three movies at the same time. It was like a salt lick in a bag is what it turned into. It was, it made the popcorn kind of like 4K. It was just too much. It was like watching the Equalizer trilogy.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Do you cook popcorn with this, Eric? Do you ever use it? I have used it in the past, yeah, but I don't have it to like cook popcorn with no. Do you want to try it? We can try it. Yeah. I want to see. I want to see if we can make pop. We should get. Here's what we do. We make it. And then we go get movie theater popcorn and then we compare. It's so crazy that he just went like, yeah, this is my thing. This is what I do. And it's turning into us going, we can make this popcorn. This is nuts. Well, good idea is a good idea. I want to see if this stuff works. I just don't see the appeal of eating popcorn not in front of a movie. That's Gavin, I feel the same way. It's just food to eat that you don't need to look at. You're talking about savings. If I get the popcorn to go? Because you're never just getting the popcorn. You're also going to be buying a drink because it's so salty. You need to balance it out. If I'm getting popcorn to go, I don't need to buy the drink. I'm not spending money on drink costs.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Wait, so wait. He's right. You're not, you're not drinking. I got drink at home. I can provide a drink at home. Well, why do you order a drink anywhere? Because if you're going to a theater. Yeah. You're going to eat the popcorn. in the theater. It's so salty. You need a drink to counter it. Too much flavor call. Too much flavor call. So, but if I go at home, I'm not going to be stuck in a room for two and a half hours.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I don't need the drink. I can have a drink at home. I'm not paying the drink cost. You could always bring a drink in with you. And it's smuggling. Yeah, that takes effort. I used to smuggle a lot. Yeah, so did I.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Everybody likes Han Solo until it's time to be Han Solo. That's fair. I will go as far, Gavin. There have been times where I've had someone I know, like a friend who's going to the movies and I'm not, and then I'm going to see them after. And I've given the money to buy me popcorn to bring to the meat. That is, that is mental. See, once again, I don't know if that's true or not because you're saying it. I would trust anybody else.
Starting point is 01:03:50 It's just such a specific Andrew, I'm just so you're clear I'm kind of on your side here Have you done that then? I don't think it's mental Would you go to that trouble? It's not trouble! What trouble? It doesn't shock me that someone else would
Starting point is 01:04:07 I don't know It's quite a burden to pot on someone to buy popcorn on the way out Not really, they double bag it It's so easy to transport It's not Yeah Scorpio's guy was walking out with a bucket
Starting point is 01:04:20 so he just had a bucket of popcorn I don't know if that's easier or harder but watching that's not practical like a gust of wind would yeah yeah exactly take the top layer away gust of wind Andrew do you think it can Uber eats absolutely I've done it
Starting point is 01:04:37 what you've Uber eats popcorn from the movie theater I mean movie as we talked about movie theater popcorn insanely expensive I've only done it once and that was like we're doing a big exciting movie night let's get movie theater popcorn with the experience that's like me
Starting point is 01:04:56 you can get absurd bags here let me show you a photo of here's the problem you encounter what the fuck I've looked deep into this I also learned at that time that pretzels don't travel well do not get movie theater
Starting point is 01:05:13 pretzels delivered to you with your popcorn I think pretzels don't travel well is just a good universal rule. Yeah, just a general thing. You get a bit soggy? Or a bit hot? I get so soggy, they suck.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's like mozzarella sticks, same way. You can't, you can't order mozzarella sticks. No, they don't travel well. So if I wanted to right now, I could get a naked gun beaver collectible tub with large popcorn delivered to me. How exciting. Where is he at home?
Starting point is 01:05:42 That's got to be close to like 20 cents per kernel. 2599, family popcorn pack. 2599. Yeah. To do something that you don't even really need to do while you're watching a film. I don't even really, I've never seen the point of eating while watching a film. Family pack. Why do you go to the-
Starting point is 01:06:03 Alamo draft house? Yeah, what's the point? Uh, Meg likes to go. You know what, you win. Their food is dog shit. Are you serious? I don't go for the food. Here's the thing that I'm standing by.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I've never ordered this. But your take-home butter selection is... Double butter container 10 ounces 1399. I just can't imagine getting a giant liquid thing of butter in a container to then attempt to distribute to that bag. 10 ounces of butter is a lot of butter. It's so much butter. Andrew, I think you got to consider if you're going to do this. Instead of flavor call, I think you need to get some popcorn shakers.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I don't like that. I have this. You can also, like, you can tell us after you watch a movie, you can. review it by telling us how many popcorn shakers out of five it is. I don't like those. I've tried those. Oh, really? I really wanted to... I like the butter. I don't like them. That's a ranch one.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Christ. It all, you don't like taste at all. I mean, I bet Jeff wouldn't like the ranch one. Why? That's white, isn't it? So? It's just a dusting. Like, I like cool ranch Doritos.
Starting point is 01:07:15 It's just the dusting. It's not the white bit. I don't like ranch dressing, but I'm not I'm not mad at the spices in it. Okay. I do think it's funny that Gavin is so indifferent to flavor in a positive sense, but is willing to display absolute disgust at flavor. Like, it doesn't go high. It only goes, like, he's willing to get really upset about it.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Well, I think the thing is, like, Americans, like, the North American palate is so different that when, like, an American goes to England, it's, it's that, like, oh, the food's tasteless, there's nothing to it. There's something in American food that if I smell it, my stomach gets smaller. Flavor. And in certain places. Like, if I go to, for example, if I, if I smell the fries at Hyde Park Bar and Grill,
Starting point is 01:07:58 I can't eat anything. I don't know what's on them. It just is the anti-taste for me. It just locks me up. So you're against the family pack popcorn. But what about, what about the Mighty Popcorn from a different theater chain? 2999. I don't think you get butter with this one.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I don't think there's any butter choices. Just unbuttered $30 bag popcorn. Can I buy you a popcorn maker for Christmas? No. Okay. Easy as that. All right. Because I have one.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I've several. I've invested in popcorn technology. Okay. I've got a wide range of experimented. It's just I have found that like it's tough to replicate the movie theater popcorn experience. I've never been able to do it in all the different forms. I've tried different kernel types.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The closest I've gotten, which I really enjoy, is sometimes I will buy popcorn from Toronto to ship to me. There's a popcorn store in Toronto that I will... On occasion, typically when I get a promotion from them that's like a buy one, get one free, I'll be like, okay, I'll get two bags. So you've spent enough time in the lab.
Starting point is 01:09:07 That's kind of upsetting. Maybe there'll be some audience tips. There's a popcorn company where they make special kernels that are coded before you make them. I tried that. What was that called? It's like fancy popcorn that you microwave.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It comes with its own. As fascinating as all this popcorn talk is, maybe we need to think about wrapping up the episode, I think. You know what the worst part about popcorn is? It gets in your teeth. That's why you freeze it. But that doesn't work. We tried that.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Oh, yeah. It's true. It doesn't work. It's pretty terrible. All right, hopefully we can read some audience popcorn suggestions for next week's episode. Are there certain places that you find draws the worst out in people? This podcast. Thank you for listening to the regulation podcast.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Love you to death. Can't believe you wasted another hour and, oh, five or so minutes of your life listening to these idiots. But I was right there with you. Shaking my head too. We'll see you next week. Thank you so much. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I'm going to send Gavin some popcorn.

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