Regulation Podcast - Pants On Panton Panting // Portapotty Popcorn Bucket/Urn [62]

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about tongue tired, eyes tired, pants funeral, ash nug, Lebowski'd, snake incident, tongue sleeves, Popcorn Bucket Urn, Regulation Benches, somber bench dedication, pillow mountain new layer, adventures, Nick, jailbreak your cart, Garfield Kart 2, Road Craft, MindsEye, video game glitches in real life, sprinting neighbor, GOAT roster, NBA draft, anticipation, and E3. Sponsored by Shady Rays. Thanks, Shady Rays. Get 35% off polarized glasses at shadyrays.com - code REGULATION. Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No frills, delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Regulation Podcast. This is number 62. My name is Jeff Ramsey with me as always. Eric Badur, Nick Schwartz, Andrew Patton, Gavin Free.

Oh. Didn't want me to be first. That's fine. understand. It's okay. No, I just got a little tongue tied. I'm still, I didn't get tongue tied. I got tongue tired. I'm still, uh, this is five minutes since the last recording we did where I'm still exhausted from my kerfuffle. The man just saw an exotic bird. He needs to gather himself. Give him a break. Yeah, I'm still flummoxed from the bird. Did you just look at the photo and go enhance? Enhant? We got to, oh, break this down.

Do you feel like your brain gets tired before? your body. I feel like my ability to speak breaks down before my ability to run. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it didn't used to be the case, but yeah, for sure. Are you running a lot?

That's a good point. I mean, not in this weather. Next time you start feeling a little sleepy, maybe like brain tired, just get up, just run as fast as you can, and then see if maybe it'll wake you up, maybe it'll kind of equilibrium a little bit.

Yeah, then try to have a conversation, see how somebody's son. I wish you can't to Meg. Now I just can't speak, but also I'm panting. I wish I could do stuff in my brain, because I find that my eyes get tired first. That, like, I want to do things, but then my eyes get tired, and so I have to close my eyes, but I'm not sleepy, but I don't want to open my eyes because my eyes are tired. Do you ever think about how when you pant, Andrew, your panting panting? No.

Maybe you will next time Yeah, close your eyes and see if you can picture it I'm picturing it But that involves me I'm thinking of pants What if you were panting with your pants on Yeah And that's never happening

Pants on pant and panting That was honestly the biggest issue I was thinking about When we're talking about jumping out of the plane And it being cold I'm not putting pants on for that We're gonna have to find a short solution You're gonna even with like Maybe new technology

that would keep you warm at 33,000 feet or whatever, you're still a shorts guy? I think it would have to be a long sock situation because I'm okay with long socks, but I just don't want the pants. Would you wear pants at my funeral? No. What if it was this one request?

He's dead. Like, I don't... It's a request. Do you think if you get married someday, you'll wear pants at your wedding? No. When you go to the doctor, do you wear pants? No.

I feel like the doctor is a pants on situation. I don't know why. It's always hot in Austin. But I will put on a pair of pants to go to the doctor. Nah, shorts. Yeah, you gotta get comfy. I don't understand the doctor thing. I don't know.

I just whenever I go, anything, that this seems important or official, I feel like I need to, I can't look like I'm wearing swim trunks. I don't know. Oh, those are fancy. Eric is posting Pharrell in shorts. Those are some fancy shorts.

The one that I always think of is LeBron When I film promos for this, for AAPW, the wrestling company, when it's too hot, I'm wearing shorts, but then I put on a suit jacket, like you wear like the upper half or whatever, and I walk around and I just tell everyone I'm LeBron. That interesting thing about LeBron there is that those are actually full-sized pants. Do you wear hoodies, Andrew? No, I guess not.

So you wear T-shirts? T-shirts, yeah, t-shirts shorts. Okay, so... You know, do you have a jacket sometimes? I don't know if I own a jacket right now. This is how it's going to be at Gavin's funeral. Gavin, your funeral is going to be Andrew. Yeah.

He's dressed like this. How, okay. Let's, you know what? How would you like me to be dressed at your funeral, Gavin? Oh, how have you one? I mean, you won't go, though. Well, no, I would go. Oh, huh.

Where is it? Why did he say it? He said it. No, no, no, no, no, let me reverse. Yeah. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?

I'm there. I'm there Buddy, I'm there Where does everybody want to have their funeral? Oh, that's a good question 33,000 feet in the air And everyone has to jump out Okay, there you go

That's how we spread your ashes Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's fine. How many ashes do you become? Like, how many ash pieces? Ooh, like how many pounds of ash do you become? Well, it's a... My cat is going nuts.

Pounds of ash. Which one? fat boy. Four and six pounds. So would that be like a million pieces? Like I wonder who's been spread the most? That's a good question. Like if you could have

one little ash nug of your favorite celebrity, would you have it? No. No. Would you? I think so. If having an ash nug is below buying bathwater.

I feel like. You wouldn't want like a little, it'd be a little ash nug on a piece of tape in a frame. Is it numbered? Is it like a card? Is it like one out of...

If you could tell me what part of the celebrity it was, like you got a little piece of his right hand, maybe. I don't know where the ash was a part of. Okay.

And like if it was the reason they were famous. Oh, interesting. Like if you can, could have Howard Stern's throat. Yeah. Yeah. Like having Howard Stern's elbow

means nothing to me, but having a little bit of Howard Stern's throat. Yeah, sure. This is psychotic. I'm just imagining. Now, I don't like any of the ideas of like what I would associate Howard Stern with as far as what he's famous for. I assume you're not meant to male people.

Like ash people. Ash people? Well, it's just like, you're not gonna... I assume you can't just stick an urn in the mail, can you? No, you definitely can. You can? Yeah, you can mail ashes. Oh.

You definitely can't. You can't just fucking... You can't get like an envelope and pour them just in it loose. That's what I was thinking like... Like, surely if you pour, if you just put one ash nug in an envelope, it's not... I don't think they'd mind. I don't know how you...

Cremated remains must be shipped using Priority Mail Express or Priority Mail Express International. No other services permitted. Surprising. That's how I send Andrew his paychecks every month. Something I wanted to I could sprinkle some Gavin or somebody in there and it'd be totally fine

Well that's what I was thinking Maybe you've already mailed someone That you just didn't know Like if they were just caught on the wind When you were sealing up an envelope Caught on the wind Well if people are scattering stuff Into the air

Well that had a piece of person Land on you at some point Then that means you probably have breathed the person at some point Yeah it's just what Just carbon If I ever breathe the person I don't think I have

You wouldn't know No what I'm trying to think of scenario, I, maybe. You're trying to think of, like, if you've been Labowskied. I definitely would know if I've been Labowski, but I'm just trying to think of, like, I feel like when you get ashes, they're pretty secure.

And I've never been around an open urn. So, the particles are everywhere. I told you guys that story about how my mom Labowskied that family with my dad, right? It sounds vaguely familiar, but the fact that I don't immediately make me feel like no. Fucking

brutal, dude. My dad We had my dad's ashes. God, Dad. And he loved the ocean. He loved the beach. And so my mom was like, I want to take and spread his ashes. Oh, no. I think I was in Gulf Shores, maybe.

She's like, I want to take and spread his ashes off the pier. And then you get up there, and there's signs that are like, you can't do this. You need a permit. And it was like, we were like, oh, fuck. And so I guess it's something that happens a lot. We started reading about it on my phone. And they're like, yeah, it's hyper illegal. And so you got to have, like, a permit or something to do it.

And my mom goes, we're not. not, I don't want to do that. Let's just, let's just do it where nobody will see. So instead of throwing him off the edge of the pier, she's like, we'll just go under the pier. And so we go under the pier. And my mom just walks out to the watch. She rolls her legs up. She walks out into the water a little bit and she just takes the box and like throws it in the air. And like my grandma's there and she's upset. You know, a little bummed and, you know, my mom's slinging ashes. And as she does it, we hear a, uh, and I look over. And there's a family walking in the towards us like a mom and a dad and the dad's holding a kid in his arm and the mom is like holding

another kid's hand and they see it coming and they just all huddled together and they like shield the kids and and they got dusted by my dad and like maybe 15 feet to the right of us and we just booked it out of there oh my god we just booked it the fuck out of there we know he loved the water he loved families yeah he's a family man so yeah oh oh my god she fly tipped your dad Ironically, that's probably the best thing my dad could have asked for If he thought that was an option He would have chosen that

My dad was a, you know, he was a prankster He had a sense of humor Everything he wanted Has anyone been buried as ashes? Get cremated Pour all the ashes in the coffin In the coffin burial Best of both was?

Best of both worlds Probably just vampires, you know? Oh man, yeah, that's a good call. I just, I can't imagine an open casket where the person's been cremated ahead of time. I think what I want, take my head off, right? Just get all the flesh out, cremate the rest of me, put it in the skull.

I'll be my own urn. Oh, wow, that's, wow. I don't want your, uh... What about like your, your eyehole sockets and stuff? Yeah, it wouldn't hold. Is any, do you think any, or you're not, like, do you think he's going to leak out? Well, I think a raccoon could, a raccoon could just come and eat those, right? So that shouldn't be a problem.

Why would a raccoon have access to my skull? I don't know. It just figures like Jeff's serial killer. Like, it would just come in, eat your brains, eat your eyes. And then, like, leave you for your ashes. Why would it have access to your skull? Because it's hanging out in your attic with all the squirrels and snakes. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, you're full, it's full of squirrels and snakes now. Yeah, I had a, how to, snake. I can't come, I can't come back to your house. Wait, what? I can't come back to your house. I can't come back to your house. I can't believe it happened after Jeff brought it up to. I couldn't believe it.

You said that video and I just went, well, you shouldn't have done that. I swear in a recent podcast, I said that I rarely see snakes, but I did just see one, so I'm probably not going to see one for another 10 years. Yeah, you did. It was like the next day. It was in my snake follows thing I was talking about it. Yeah. I can't post this public because it's literally on the front of my house.

I can show you lot. Oh, I need Nitro. Put it in slack. Put it in slack. It freaked Jeff out. Jeff was not happy. It was right after Jeff had talked about how he'd seen a snake. I know.

I was not talking about how I'd realized that I'm every day I'm getting closer to seeing a snake in a person and that, you know, every decision I in the snake or its parents make is putting us closer to intersecting and I'm not jazzed about that.

Okay, so we got a snake situation. Oh, it's climbing up. It's big. That is an intimidating snake. How many feet you think that snake is? Three feet, four feet? Probably, yeah. And it, and it crawled, it crawled up the side of the house, and then I lost track of it.

But it didn't lose track of you. I don't like losing track of that. Why, what do you mean? Lost track, just get up in that attic with the squirrels and go have a look. And he's up there. It probably is after them. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Huh. Yeah. Or like I was telling you, it's just going home from work after. a long day of snake job and it just wants to fucking chill in front of snake TV with its wife and kids in your attic where it lives in its snake community with all the other snakes that are right above your head at all times you think i was just hearing the snakes the whole time well i think you heard the snakes eating the squirrels the whole time i got uh i got pest control

coming today thank you god oh my god did you let them know that it's snakes uh oh boy well that wasn't in my original email because it hadn't happened yet. Probably let the guy know so he knows what he's getting into. What about the squirrel? Did they take care of the squirrels? The people haven't come yet? Do you still have them? That's why he has a snake now, dude. It's coming after his squirrels. Yeah, you send in a spider to get the fly. Maybe he'll die.

Pretty soon there's going to be a gorilla climbing up there to eat the hyena that was there to eat the fucking snake that's there to eat the squirrels. Gavin's house is just slowly turning into an arc. It's just, there's going to be every animal is going to exist in his ceiling. That's going to be one of every animal's skeleton and then the largest animal will be alive. I'm imagining your cremated skeleton, skull thing. Not skeleton, just a skull. Sculleton.

What did I? I had another one. Anyway, I would only be okay with it if you put these googly eyes where the eye sockets are. I'm greatly disturbed, but then when I imagine seeing that, but those little, little googly sticker eyes, I would be okay with it. Well, the skull would have to be upside down, surely. I think you just have to seal it somehow.

Seal my under face? Maybe it's in like a underscull. I don't know what that's called. Searching for googly eyes on human skull does not produce that, but it does produce a lot of other really weird things. I'm sure. Interesting. So you have pest control coming

for the snake or is it unrelated? For the squirrels? The squirrels. Yeah. So they're coming today for the squirrels. For whatever's in my ceiling. Yeah, they're coming today for the squirrels but they're going to be really excited

when they see it's full of snakes. Yeah. What are you going to do with it? Like, could I have got that snake down? I think it would have tried to choke me. No, you leave the snake. I don't think it tries to choke. If there's a snake climbing up my house,

I'm getting it off my fucking house. I'm spraying it with a hose until it gets off. You think the snake would have tried to choke you? You're locking that rear naked? Well, I assume it's a constricting snake. I also think that it would try to choke him or eat him. Yeah. Like, how big does a snake...

I'm sure a four-foot snake could choke me out. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't think it's going to try. I don't think that's the intent, though. No, I don't think that's what the snake does. It wants to bite a hole and then crawl into you like a taun-ton and then stay real. It wants to constrict me, but from... Oh?

What? restricts me from the inside, it just goes in and squeezes my heart. It's like Keanu Reeves in the second Matrix movie. Now that would be the greatest betrayal of all for Jeff. If Gavin got replaced by a snake and we've been doing a podcast with Gavin Snake for the past, however many episodes. I would be so... Send us a picture of your tongue. It's like the thing, but just tongue checks.

Stick the tongue out. The thing, but... You're not a snake. man, good. Making making everyone do it through like a nest camera before they're allowed in your house. Do you remember when I bought us a bunch

of tongue sleeves? What was that for? Oh, that's a bit barrel thing. And I also don't know where they are. I don't know what happened to them. I'll have to buy more. Are we going to eat stuff without tasting it? I don't remember what the tongue sleeves. Oh, that was what it was. We were going to see what it would be like if our finger buds were on our hands. So we were going to put

whatever it was inside the tongue sleeve. And then that would be how, maybe That was it, right? We'll throw it in the bit barrel and then the audience will tell us. Or maybe we could put garlic on our feet and lick stuff with the tongue sleeve and see if everything tastes like that.

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to shit. Hit the pavement. We talked about making a porta-potty popcorn bucket, which we all thought was hilarious. And then we talked to Natalie, and we set them in motion just to see if it's feasible. And they came back with an eight inch, which is about the standard size, port-a-potty pop-up. What? Popcorn bucket. God, dude. Hand off the baton. What are you doing? And we want to see if the audience is actually interested in it, if this is the thing that we should actually pursue, or if this is one of those ideas that's funny to talk about but not actually make, this thing would probably cost in the neighborhood of $30 to $35. I've put some images up.

I've actually put the same image up twice somehow. In our Discord. Of the porber puppy? Oh, man. Of the porba puppy. Is this something that you as an audience would buy genuinely? Because we would probably have to make at least a thousand of them, which seems like a lot to make.

But the porta potty is pink. The top comes off. You can fill it with popcorn. Inside the porta potty is a. normal toilet, not a porta-potty toilet, but a small normal toilet that opens up and can hold one popcorn kernel like Gavin requested. On the top of the popcorn lid, or on the top of the toilet lid would be the regulation butthole logo. Is this something you, as a customer, as a, as a regulation listener or a comment lever, I guess we'll never know for the regulation listeners, so it's only to the

comment levers. Will you buy this? Should we make this? Is this something you actually want to own or is this a bad idea like the slop a clock clock that we're going to have to figure out how to get rid of $1,200. I mean, it's obviously a bad idea. It's just a popcorn bucket that's horrifically difficult to clean. I would definitely get one, though. Yeah, I showed it to Bernie Vanessa and they were like, I'd pay 40 bucks for that tomorrow. So I was like, I was thinking like maybe not.

Like maybe we don't do this. Maybe it's like, it's dumb. And then Bernie and Vanessa were like, I was like, what are you guys thinking? And they're like, I want one yesterday. And I was like, seriously? And they're like, yeah, I would pay good money for that tomorrow. So I think it's just a cool prop. You wouldn't have to use it.

Yeah, I'm looking at it. I'm thinking that that would be a great earn. I think that's where I'm going. Oh, popcorn bucket slash earn. Holy shit. Should we sell it as a slash earn? Is there some sort of tax break we can get from being an earn? Can you sell an earn?

I don't think typically earns or sold is also edible like things. Well, it's whatever you want to be. It's that store edible food. You decide when you first use it, what it's going to. be used for. I guess any container can be an urn. Yeah, even a folder scan. I feel like that'd be such, that'd be such like a, if there was a new Elvira movie, Alamo, it would be an urn popcorn bucket.

That's really, I didn't think about putting ashes in it, but I guess you could. And then you could just put the top on and never take it off, or take it off and talk with your loved one. I'm not really sure. I was, I was thinking about, like, the worst chase thing would be, like, one Gerpler was filled with ash, with ashes, like a popcorn bucket where there's one, and Gavin's philosophy or like his great ash kernel or whatever, there's one in the toilet. You got to check your toilet to see if you got a singular ash piece. There's just like a little piece of bone that didn't quite get burned. Horrible. Nasty. Well, let us know in the comments if this is something

that seems like something you would want. I actually have something I wanted to bring up. And And this was pitched to me by our friend Alyssa, and I've been kind of sitting on it. But I think it's a good idea, and it's something I want to explore. I just don't know how to explore it. I feel like we're sometimes an outdoors podcast, especially when Jeff is on a bike, seeing a snake, being afraid of a snake. But you have to do that when you're out in public, right? You got to be in these public areas.

And sometimes it gets, sometimes you get too tired. Sometimes you get too hot. Sometimes you just need to have a seat. What was pitched to me, and I think we should do, is we should do commemorative benches. We should get commemorative benches around the United States. So that way everyone knows, have a regulation seat in the park and just kind of hang out.

There's a bunch of different kinds. I think we have to talk to different cities. But imagine that the second picture that I sent is a dog, and he's hanging out on a memorial bench with a bunch of memorial. things on it. That's it. Some of these are just bench sponsorships and not dedicated to people who died, which I'm sure a lot of people think that's what it is normally. So, just a regulation bench. I think it's great. I think we should try and put 50 regulation benches down in America, one in each state. And the challenge is to sit on each one. I think we got to have a regulation

bench in every state and we have to physically sit on it and do a podcast from it. Could the first one be a deputy well that that's sort of where my mind is going with this right right but i just don't know i don't know if deputy has any parks or benches or people that that's a that's a struggle for sure i'm a remove deputy what if because there's there's one bench in this photo that you're listing that has multiple things on it if we lock down a bench and then whoever wins face off gets to put a thing on that bench and it's like the stanley cup where like the team gets engraved onto the thing, but the prize every season is you get to add an engravement of your choice to the bench. So like our trophy, our trophy each year is just in public that people can sit on.

And every year we'll put a new plaque on for the winners. Yes. The winner gets to pick what the plaque is for that bet. And we just keep adding as we do seasons. I also think we can absolutely do the bench and deputy. I think we go to Home Depot when we buy a bench, we put the plaque on ourselves and we just drop it somewhere in Deputy Indiana. We do the podcast. We do the podcast. then we leave it and we see if it stays. I like everything about everybody's idea and I think this is perfect because we pitched an idea while back called Hide and Speak

where we do podcasts in public where people can't see us. Remember? Talked about kind of like what we did with with the Halo video with Gavin's Halo video where he showed us where he and he would hide and hit on girls. One people were playing Halo.

It's one girl. It's kind of like that. It's an old idea. It's on the sheets idea. But anyway, I love this idea because I've been wanting to do podcasts outside anyway. And I love the idea of commemorating. I like to sit. I'm a big sitter.

I think this is awesome. That is not a comfortable bench. No, but it does say class of 1973, quote, don't stop thinking about tomorrow, Fleetwood Mac. So we can get whatever we want on a bench apparently. Do you guys want to hear a somber bench dedication story? I guess.

If it's too dark, we can cut it from the episode. Okay. A couple years ago A couple years ago in Austin at Millie's pediatrician office A guy came in You know what I'm not going to tell this story

As soon as you started saying it I went yeah we shouldn't include this Yeah never mind I'm not going to tell this story Why don't we put it on Patreon if you want to be bummed out All right it okay You can leave out the beginning part maybe. I feel like it's integral.

It is kind of integral. So a guy who was mentally ill went into a pediatrician's office in Austin and took them hostage, the doctors that worked there, an all-woman pediatrician's office. And then he ended up killing one of them and then committing suicide. It was Millie's pediatrician's office, but not her pediatrician. Anyway, it was a big deal in Austin. It was heartbreaking. It was really sad. It was terrible in every way.

And then Emily and I were in San Francisco for something. I don't even remember what. This was like two years later. And we went to a park and we sat down at a bench to look at the view. And the bench was dedicated to the doctor who got killed in Austin. Because her brother lived in San Francisco and wanted to do something to commemorate her. So he bought the bench and commemorated her for it. And it was just wild that two years later we sat on a random bench on the other side of the country.

You know what happened to be dedicated to this person. I don't think I've ever been as out on a story. in the first half and then as in in the second half Jeff that was impressive I was when you started

that I was like what world is this a good story to share and you really pull me in that's a crazy coincidence yeah it was just like

just one of those things where you're like how is that possible that we sat on this particular bench out of all the benches even in this park let alone in the city

of San Francisco yeah that's crazy that's wild yeah I have had an interesting life change with Pillamountain

I've expanded We've got a whole new layer A Pillow Mountain You got nine pillows now? No, it's not about height Oh It's a whole new layer Did you get king size pillows or something

Are you going wider? No, I have I already have a few of those But no, it's what I'm doing Is I'm burrowing into the mountain now We got a whole new game What do you mean? So I used to be someone

She didn't like sleeping with like a blanket Or like anything over their face the air would get hot. It was unpleasant. You don't put the blanket over your face. Who sleeps with a blanket over their face? Well, just, you know, like if you're laying under the blankets and it's like a blanket fort or situation or what.

I just didn't like, I'm not like wrapping a blanket around my face and then trying to sleep, but like if you're underneath your feet. Yeah, that would, yeah, why would you think that? You must be insane, Gavin. Anyway, I realized that with my CPAP machine, it's really just like a breathing thing. And I'm not getting air from my nose directly. It's exterior air.

So I've been burrowing in because I like the weight of the thing on top of me. And I'm not dealing with the hot air because the air's coming from somewhere else. I'm getting external air. I feel like I'm like above ground scuba diving. Like non-water scuba diving with this thing on. It's great. I've been burrowing. Where does all the carbon oxide you expel go in a CPAP?

I've never thought about that. Does it take it out too? Or their vents? Okay. Yeah, there's like a vent in the front. Are you just creating under your, under your blankets, a situation that Gavin is dealing with his cats in his office? I don't think so.

Well, yeah, you would be increasing the carbon dioxide in the trapped air area, but you're still getting regular air through the Noget. Yeah. I'm getting, I mean, we're cranking the pressure. It's jetting. It's great. You said carbon monoxide? Who?

What? Did Jeff say carbon monoxide? Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, he's sleeping in his car with the garage close, with the CPAP on, burrowed under all of his house. No, no, no, that's next week. That's next week. I was like, how's your body doing that?

I just feel like it's unlocked a whole new layer of sleeping for me. I can sleep in any position now. I can, it's great. I go on little adventures, get the pillows stacked, burrow in. I've done it too. I've done some, like, under the pillow sleeping. But I do feel like if my face is too close to a pillow, the vent starts to create sound against the pillow.

It starts to be like, yeah, that can be a problem. I just rewind it here for a second. What kind of little adventures are you going on? I'm just different layers of the different pillows. Sometimes we're going underneath a, like a throw, like a little blanket type situation. I just feel like I'm adventuring.

What? I just feel like I'm exploring a little bit. I just feel like I'm sleeping in new ways and it's exciting. So sometimes you're like cramming your head between four and five, and you're like, yeah. Yeah.

Or like different weights. I like feeling trapped in a safe way. I gotta say, everything you said, I kind of know what he means. I kind of, I kind of like being at like the bottom.

I don't know if I can handle the bottom of pillow mountain. That seems like a lot to deal with, but like three or four pillows up, put my head in. I quite like weight on my eyes. Like I tried a weighted sleeping mask, but it was.

It wasn't very good. I didn't like it. You're basically deep sea diving in your bed. I am. That's how I feel like I'm adventuring. Yeah. You're like Jacques Cousteau. I feel like if I had... I feel like I would genuinely be able to sleep. If you put eight pillows stacked high on my face

while I was pap in, like they're just pillows on my head. And then someone sat on the top of the pillows. I think I could sleep like that. So you would like to be the P in the Princess and the P situation. Yes. Yeah, I would be the bowling ball. at the bottom of the mattresses.

It's really, it's comfy. I don't know. It's like, it's like, I do, I feel like I've never scoobed before. I feel like I can scuba now. I feel like I've learned through this. I've scuba confidence because of the CPAP. I actually prefer CPAP sleep without, than like no CPAP sleep.

There's something fun about it. I know people don't enjoy having to be like hooked up to the machine typically. Actually, I like it. Well, it's not the point is that you're supposed to like it because you sleep well finally? No, no, but like people that use it are like, oh, this sucks having to have like this machine attached to my face while I sleep. I actually kind of like, I feel like I'm going on an adventure.

Is that just because you have so few real life adventures? No, I just, I just, I don't know, I'm just happy about it. Why you got a yuck as young, man? Why did I? I'm with, Gavin, Gavin, I'm with you. Andrew, I'm with you. I appreciate that. And it all

comes down to Nick. Andrew let's adventure. In his bed? Wait, okay. So wait, hang on. So Nick wants to adventure with Andrew? I mean, I'll help him out. Whatever.

I don't know if Nick's been paying attention to what's going on. Nick's apparently in the other room right now having a conversation with him. Nick could use a hose with air going directly into his mouth, I think. Nick needs a CPAP when he's awake. Yeah. Oh, Christ. Nick can throw... I love fucking spending more time with Nick.

You'll just... Chime in, and I don't know which side he's on ever. What? I never expected going into f***le-face with you guys that Nick would be the wild card. But he kind of is. It's like that. It's like that all the time, too.

100% is the same way, where he just, he's agreeing with you, but the way he says it makes it seem like he's disagreeing with you. And then you're like, are we in a fight? Like, what is it? And he just keeps going, yeah, yeah. No. Look, Eric, I hear you. What?

No. Yeah. It's crazy. I saw, I think I talked about this with the guys the other day. I saw a post on Reddit that was like on the front page that was like, what legendary YouTube channel stopped making videos? And I wanted to see where a rooster teeth ranked. So I went in and scrolled down and scrolled down.

scrolled down and then I finally saw someone said Achievement Hunter, so I replied and just said, LOLL. But then I was reading some of the comments and people were like really going to bat for us. Like check out Regulation Podcast. This is really awesome. They like, oh, they're still doing this stuff. It's so much fun. All these video game videos, whatever. And then it's like, oh, I like them all, but I hate Eric, blah, blah, blah. Oh, when Andrew does this, I don't like it, blah, blah, blah. There was one guy that's like, yeah, I like the show, but I can't stand Nick. And it was like, oh, right. You don't need to worry about what people on the internet are saying that is the craziest take that blew me away i can't stand nick what the

fuck are you talking about wild wild crazy nick said the craziest thing i think i've ever heard him say yesterday we were recording a gameplay yeah Gavin burped and oh my god you remember what he said Gavin he said he said oh that sounded like a tasty one we weren't recording we were just getting ready to like set things up and that was his genuine reaction to Gavin's burp and it just like it it was so crazy

it passed by without notice for a minute you know the kind of burp where you can taste what you have for lunch but that's never good that's so gross it's gross if you have a good lunch some foods it's good Yeah. There are some great books.

That's right. Thank you. You're right, though, about Nick being the wild card because Michael brought this up or he's like, oh, you're playing video games with like Jeff. It's like, oh, Jeff will like throw a grenade. And he's like, run, run. And I'm like, yeah, that doesn't really happen with what we're doing. Mostly it's Nick listening to Gavin.

And that's like ultimately our problem. And so when you hear about this burps. What? And you just go like, yeah, I mean, Gavin's like egging him on, but it's not like it takes even like a push. It's just like a kernel of an idea. Like he's incepting Nick while he's awake. But the inception is just going,

hey, what about this? Somehow, somehow it's going seven layers deep and burrowing into an idea. It's like working. Do you guys, you guys know, you guys ever see those articles online or like on Reddit or whatever or TikTok where they're like, what's something that you could do in 2000

that just doesn't exist or you can't do or the world doesn't work that way in 2025? You know what I'm talking about? You ever see those? No, but I know what you mean. I see them a lot. And they're like, it's like, it's like, oh, you used to be able to walk up to the fucking gate at an airplane before 9-11. Sure. Like those kinds of things.

I was at the grocery store with Emily the other day at H.E.B. And we were leaving. And I realized that we had the shopping cart. We were taking it out and it did that thing where it locked and we couldn't go any further. And a guy had to go, oh, I'm sorry. And he had to like press a. device at our shopping cart to

unrelease it so we could go outside with it because I guess they have shopping cart theft they have to deal with. And that got me thinking you couldn't launch jackass in 2025. So much of the beginning of that series was shopping cart related. You just can't steal and use shopping carts in

2025 anymore. They have the protective devices on them so they don't go outside of the parking lot. You'd have to jail break your carts first. You'd have to jail break your shopping cart so that you could run it into a shrub. if the jackass guy started today they would have a much harder time than they did way back in whenever it started

that was my realization I couldn't think of a more lower stakes heist than finding a way to steal a row of shopping like a bunch of shopping carts starts out low stakes but they made hundreds of millions of dollars off that like I don't mean individual theft of them I'm imagining someone being like okay we're going to hit

HB where it hurts we're stealing and all of the carts. I think if you stole a line of like 40 shopping carts, that would be the loudest possible thing to steal. That would be pretty good. Like when I worked at Target was like my first job and I pushed carts and they had like it was just line them all up as many as you could and then push them to like the front of the store again like from the parking lot.

It was I was just looking back on it. It was so loud. I never thought about it. It's so loud. Just being 16 years old, pushing 30 carts as hard as you can. Just like whatever. Like just like a sensory overload from eight hours a day.

I'd never thought about that. Yeah, it's allowed as shit. Speaking of your car's the gaming thing I need to talk about. I'm excited about this for a while. They announced a Garfield cart too. And it is fucked. Uh, in like the way that only Garfield cart.

could be first of all they didn't announce it via a trailer or announcement there's just a steam page now for Garfield Cart 2 and there's no other material on it. It just is like hey this is going to be a thing that happens. The other

issue is that this is Garfield Cart 3. I don't know I don't know what they're doing because there was Garfield cart and then there was Garfield Cart Furious Racing and now there's Garfield cart 2 so I don't know if they're disregarding the first one or Furious Racing is like they've named their third

one too for no reason I'm very worried I'm very worried about the quality of this game it's a different dev team the quality maybe it's a prequel to Furious racing it could be but it's a different dev team and their last game was Smurfs racing which did not have online multiplayer I'm worried I'm worried there won't be any online multiplayer in this thing. It does have a leaderboard, apparently Smurfs Racing, but there could be more Garfield Cart in our life. Garfield Cart 2 slash 3.

Has much been shown from Garfield Cart 2 slash 3? No, not that I've seen. Like, it's just a Steam page. I don't think there's a trailer out for it, at least last time I looked. I just, I got really excited because all these people were tagging me that Garfield Cart 2 is coming. And then I looked at it and it's like,

it's just a Steam page. Like, it's not even an announcement. they just made a store page for a thing. I don't think they've even officially commented on it. What if it's just some guy made a page for it? No, it looks like a real game. And it has like everything's credentialed the right way, but it just is not, it's not looking good for Garfield Cart.

As someone who's a believer, you know, people, people swear by Sonic Racing. Obviously, Mario Kart leader in the space, but Garfield Cart 2, Furious Rate, they really figured out some things in that racer. and I've been waiting oh yeah Eric just posted the box art

it looks like shit oh you can drift the proportions on Garfield are not right now his head to body has a little cheek he has mean teeth

normal's wearing a little hat here's for reference here's oh that's a quality game that's a good looking Garfield right there yeah that's a great Garfield Furious Racing great game yeah do you think it'll come out on

switch two. I think everything's coming on on Switch 2 that can. Oh, cool. I can't believe Cyberpunk's on Switch 2. How does that run? Wild. Not just that it's on Switch 2. It's all on the cartridge, which is insane. Yeah. It's really impressive. Why just survive back

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that I got that I'm going to show in a video that we film. I don't even know how I got it, but I checked when I had it. Is it the fulling one? It's the falling one. So this is a clip of me and I talked to Nick, so I think we're recording this and it'll be up in the YouTube version.

I am on sunken here. I am on sunken here. I'm trying to clean up a road so I filled up literally as many blocks as I can pieces of cement. and I had just spent a lot of time looking at my map I'm gonna hit this clip so we're starting I'm like okay I'm ready to go let's go oh no I filled it up and I'm tipping

that sucks and then this happens yeah yeah that happened to my friend I think one time yeah I've seen that a few hundred times in Snowrunner oh yeah that's a snow runner thing this is a carryover I've never experienced this before

oh yeah you like a tornado I am destroying all of the trees in the area. I'm flipping around. I'm flying for people that are just listening. My truck is spinning like a tornado rapidly in all directions. But unlike Snow Runner, there's no vehicle health, so I'm not taking damage. You are what happened to that town.

I'll show you where I end up. You're the natural disaster. That's where I ended up. Upside down on the roof. Upside down on a roof. Wow. just bouncing around I'm stuck, I'm wiggling,

he's trying to get out. I'm trying to use my crane to get me off of this building. Yeah, the problem you have here too has to say you could just recover, but you're going to leave all that concrete on that roof. But that's okay because I just didn't want it on the road. I think that's eventually the conclusion

I come to is I realize, oh, I can strap, but my engine is stalled so I can't activate things the way I want. But I think I get off of it. Yeah, I release it, and then there we go. And then I just start spinning. It starts breaking. It's like your boom. It does not move that fast. That's crazy. It's like it got spun around and it has to spin back all the times

it spun around. I was like I was possessed. But that has been some of my roadcraft adventures recently. It broke and I got the achievement in the process of me just flying around the map as a tornado truck. It was a great time. That's great. We have filmed two videos. in that game, one with three of us and one with four of us. And just so we're clear, I personally would like to film 1,000 more videos in this game. Yeah, it's great. If and whenever you guys want to, I'm all, at 3 a.m., I'm up for filming videos in this game. I never want to stop playing this game. It's amazing. It's so much fun. There've been so many great games, and then Minesai also came out. What's Minesai?

Minds I was a game. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, one of the studio heads of Rockstar left and made their own studio he'll build a rocket boy and mine's eye is the first game under that umbrella and it looks like it's supposed to be

an open world action game but it's a linear action game in an open world that has nothing in it and it is incredibly broken in so many ways it's so stupid what's that game you guys did a video in yesterday I saw on the Discord oh we played the Altars which is a

really cool game in which you are like get stranded on a planet and you're trying to escape it essentially by recovering resources on the planet it looked so interesting single player though it is single player only yeah I could be so cool though if if it had multiplayer and you were just like waiting to be born that would be cool because there is like a summon you have to make a thing called the womb and like you create iterations of you so yeah you're just waiting player two plays the sheep. Mine's eye is, I think, the worst game I've played this year. And it's

like very popular worst. Like, it's gotten a lot of attention due to how bad it is. Do you think it'll get good over time? No, that's the problem. They're like fixing it. They're like fixing a lot of the bugs, but it just as a core game is not great to play. It's not a ton of fun.

What platform is it on? It's on everything. It's a $500 million budgeted game. That is. Is there a multiplayer? they're gonna add it apparently but I don't it's one of those things where I'd be surprised if they continue to support it and anyway

if they add it we gotta do it oh we definitely have to do it 100% it I got all the achievements I needed to see everything that was in that thing wait you 100%ed a game that you didn't what it's the worst game you played this year

and you 100% did it I needed to see everything that was in that thing because it is fucking it's just insane it's uh you like it is a completely empty open world there's nothing you can do i played a mission where you have to drive five miles there's no map you have a mini map and that's it you can't open the map there's no broader like you can't see the world map in any way they just don't want you

to see how small the map is no it's huge that's the problem it's a fucking huge map and if you go in a direction they don't want they'll fail the mission on you uh so i'm driving a car and the only time you get a waypoint marker is when you're in your vehicle. So I'm in a vehicle and I'm driving and it gets destroyed and you can't steal random vehicles on the street. And it's also a scenario in the game in which all the cars are gone. So I had to run five miles on foot without being able to see the map and there being no enemies of any kind.

And it was a thing where I'd be running and then the guy would say, whoa, where are you going, buddy? That's the wrong way. and I'm just running towards the marker. So then I'd have to turn around and run like four blocks. I spent 30 minutes real time having to run to this location

to do the mission. It is horrendously bad. It is like impressively. I flip my car. It was on fire. And I tried to leave and it wouldn't let me. And I thought, oh, it's just broken.

And then I realized there's a button to flip your car because the car weight physics are really weird. So like you're constantly flipping your vehicle over, then you're pushing X to get it back up, there was no way to exit your vehicle upside down. So my car is in complete flames

and I had to reorient it to be back on its wheels before it would let me leave the vehicle before it exploded. It is so bad. There's a boss fight where it's like, the boss gets called and is like, kill this person and instead of killing them for some reason

they take them to the roof and then you chase them and then you can go to fight them and they're like, no, actually, I'm going to step away and you're going to fight drones instead. And so you're fighting drones for no reason, but you can ping. And I noticed when I pinged, I got a marker for where they hid the like the MPC of the boss. They just put them in a wall. And I was looking and like there is no door to where they could have been, but I'm still getting a marker for him. It is a disaster. He was, ah, I could go on and on. But it's, it's so impressively bad and it's weird

in a way that I couldn't resist I had to keep playing you unlock free mode by beating the game but there's nothing to do in the world that's nuts that is part of it is like it's sort of build tools

so the idea being that like you can build all these experiences yourself if you're on PC and you have the PC version of it but it's just it's It's incoherent.

They outsource the game creation to you? That's sort of the idea. It has had such a bad launch. I think the, like, Steam highest concurrence is under 2000. So I just, I don't, I think they're going to drop everything for it. And what's unfortunate is this summer, they're supposed to add Agent 47 for a hitman mission. And I just don't think that'll happen now.

But he'll only be inside a wall. it will only be in a wall it's just weird things for me of like Lizzie McGuire the show Lizzie McGuire the little brother from that show plays an Elon Musk character in this and it just looks like him and so it's like I'm playing and then I'm going

that looks like Lizzie McGuire's little brother and then it actually is like it's just so it's so bizarre is he playing Lizzie McGuire's brother in the game he is playing Elon Musk essentially is the thing that he's going for in that game. I can't believe you 100% of this thing.

You're crazy. Just a heads up for the portion of our audience that does not like video games and doesn't watch our gameplay. We are filming three drafts tomorrow. Yes. It's true. It's true. Lots of drafts on the...

Lots of non-video game related content on the books coming up. Just FYI. I want to make sure the audience knows we're servicing both sides there yes

I'm excited for the drafts tomorrow I gotta do research yeah I haven't been able to do any real work on them yet that's gonna be my tonight yeah I'll do that tonight I've started doing bringing video game glitches

into real life it kind of happened unintentionally but I dropped something the other day and my first instinct was just a T-post in place like my life had gone wrong

a little bit and I'm just gonna incorporate that more every time I drop something. You're gonna convince somebody that they're in the Matrix? I do so much stuff that no one sees, just because it makes me giggle. Is T-posing the next, like what, outside of T-posing, what is something you do?

I once, this kind of really disturbed Meg, she didn't like it at all, but I once was just awake in the house on my own. was still asleep. And I thought, I wonder if I can. I was like, I wonder what it would look like if my legs kidnapped me. And I just, what? I let. What the fuck? Are you all right? So I laid down on the floor as if I was asleep or like unconscious. And then I just started walking around, but just from the knees down. So my, so my legs were dragging the rest of my body around. while I was like completely lying down with my arms like up above my head. And I showed her, I showed her a video of it and she was like, oh, that's creepy. You hate it.

Are we talking like an Adam's family thing with like the hand, but it's your, your legs like becoming sentient? Yeah, so imagine, imagine you're just lying down completely flat on your back. Okay. And your arms are extended like out behind your head, so they're like wrists down behind you. down behind you and then just start walking. I like T-posing a lot more than this. Okay. I'm a big fan of the T-posing.

I did it like a whole lap of the kitchen just being dragged by my passions. What, you guys don't do that? You guys don't kidnap yourself? I don't think I've ever kidnapped myself. I don't think so. Oh, man. Teach their own.

I had a, maybe you'll remember this, Jeff. I brought this up to the cabin. He didn't seem to remember. You probably won't. Maybe somebody will. I will. Did I ever talk about that? That I, this was a very long time ago, that I thought that there was like an animal or something.

Like I could hear stomping in like my rooftop. Like I thought that maybe there was like a, I know birds moved in there at one point, but I thought that maybe like a raccoon or something. I thought that's how you tricked me into listening to your farts. Was it? I thought that was just different. That was how we got like, we got like birdchurp. Dot MP3 or whatever,

or birdchurp. It was just, it was like clearly like a movement sound that would happen on the roof. And it was very odd. I'd never experienced anything like it. And then it stopped at around the same time

the people that lived in the apartment next door moved out. So I thought, oh, maybe it was like sound because sometimes sound travels in like a weird way here and they had kids that would run around

so I thought maybe it would just it was that and then recently I talked to somebody else that lives in this building and I learned that it wasn't it wasn't that it was a person that lives above me

and I guess they were known in the building when they would have like episodes they would hop out of their unit and land on top of mine essentially, and just do sprints, and that's how they would handle it. They would just sprint

across the rooftop. So I had a person, I thought it was like an animal thing, because it sounded like running, but there was just the person that was doing sprints on my roof. What the fuck kind of episode is that? Do you think that's what Gavin has?

Oh. Maybe they moved to Austin. Damn it. Shit. Is it possible that your neighbor was a snake. I got to check their tongue. But I thought about when it was happening, like getting a cheap Amazon drone

and flying it up to see like if I could see anything. I would have died. I would have had a heart attack if I saw just a person doing sprints at 2 a.m. on my roof. Also, a person that's in the mental state that requires them to have an episode

where they run across a rooftop at 2 in the morning, you fly a drone up to that person you are sending them into a deeper and darker down a spiral that they are are you know what I mean? Suddenly the government really is watching them and yeah you it's probably safer that you didn't do that sounds like a mission in mind's eye

are they're drone missions in mind's eye I've found it I found a video oh you found the feet video I'm putting it in slack all right okay I'll describe

what I'm watching so Gavin is on the floor and his thing he's in the position he's talked about his like he's just yeah it's so I'm I see I totally get why she didn't like

me oh no the cats are investigating they're very into it so if you've ever played hitman from the waist up he looks like when you're pulling a body and hitman to like dump them

in a garbage can or whatever but it's just him propelling himself forward with his legs taking little steps can that go in the video is that safe? Yeah, let me do like a better crop on it okay

and I'll get you a better version I think at the time I was thinking of me myself and Irene like what if one of me was unconscious but the other one wasn't and that's what I came up with crazy ah damn

have you tried doing that from the could you do it reverse What does that mean? Push instead of pull? Yeah, like push or pull or maybe do like your arms are trying to kidnap everything else. Well, I could get myself in a headlock and drag it myself around. Yeah, I don't know if the headlock is necessary, but just the idea of like, length legs, but arms going forward, I don't know.

Well, I mean, this is my version. Maybe you should come up with your version. I'm good. I'm good. I'll copy you in the T-posing. I like that. Okay. That's fine.

Some T-posing. I had an idea, Eric, that isn't a funny idea, but I think it might be a fun idea. I don't know where it would fit in our universe, but I wanted to run it by you specifically. Sounds like a bench in San Francisco. Sorry, continue. I do want to have a bench in every state. I think that's a great idea. I was thinking the other day

about how I was reading an article of like if you were to if you were to draft the all time best Yankees team from Yankees players throughout history. So if you just made like you constructed the best Yankees team

possible from the from every person who's ever played for the Yankees. And I was thinking what if you did that for every team? Like that would be fun to see who the bet like the all time bet. You got like Shoeless Joe Jackson

play. White Sox team next to Robin Ventura and, you know, in The Big Hurt. And you've got Tatis next to Tony Gwynn or whatever on the Padres. And you create all 30 teams. You can do this for other sports, too, football, basketball, whatever. But you build out these teams that are the best possible team you could field from the history of that team. And then you put them in a league and sim it and see who the best baseball team of all time is. Yeah, that's a great idea.

It's not funny. I don't know that it would make, like, content. I mean, it's got to have to make some kind of content. But I just think it would be an interesting thing to do. I think it's a great idea. I think it's definitely like a deceptive thing too, where it's like who. Everyone's going to have their like, oh, yeah, this guy, not that guy, because it's like their specific team. But like, I like that idea.

I like, I bet Nick has a lot of opinions about, you know, the Phillies. where I won't. But, like, could you imagine a Spurs team that has Tim Duncan, Manu Genoblee, Victor Wimbunyama, David Robinson, Tony Parker, all on it at the same time? Like, oh, whoa. I wouldn't like it. You know, I don't like the Spurs. But they have such a, it's fucking crazy to think about.

Yeah. Yeah. I like that idea. I wonder, we should, we should round that idea into something because I think there's something there. like that of creating creating like the goat roster for uh every team and then somehow simming them against each other i just don't know i don't know what we do with it i used to do season sims back uh in the old age days uh there was a period where i fucked my hand up and i had to get surgery on it to get my tendons repaired and then i had to go through like six months of physical

therapy and so i was in a cast for like three or four months in a row there and the only i only had one hand I could use for gaming, uh, because it was my, my, my, my left hand and my thumb that I had fucked up. And so I was useless. And so I just made a show called age presents where I just simmed sports constantly. And it did okay. But I always had so much fun doing it. And I would do that. I'd, I'd sim like, like, who's better? The 72 Milwaukee Bucks or the 86 Celtics. Oh, I like to see, you know? We should, we should do that. Like, maybe we'll do that at the office. Maybe we'll put something together and, and, and see what we can do. Because I, I think it'd be, I think it'd be a fun and interesting idea. Yeah. I would do

the pettiest sports fan thing of all time where in NHL, I would go into be a GM mode and I'd pick teams I hated and I just dismantled them. I would just give away all of their best assets for dog shit players. I'd trade away their picks

and then I would just sim us failing miserably. And that is where I'd get my joy from is just tanking this franchise as an incompetent GM that got this job. It would bring me so much joy. You are a true sports fan. Absolutely. Yeah. I spent more time doing that than doing the reverse of like taking over my favorite franchise and bringing them to victory. Like that's fun. I've done that

a lot. But oh, there's a special type of joy of getting rid of a team's entire assets. And also a believability of like this is what incompetence GMs do. I'm trading away Luca Donchich without any warning without any team knowing like I'm just this is this is all believable what I'm doing but oh I've only experienced it as the fan who has it happen to them it is so much fun to be the person that is making these decisions you're like I'm Nico Harrison I'm Matt Ishbia I'm yeah yeah destroy this team oh whoopsie looks like I traded away everything and we suck oh no I'm still making all my money oh no form on a on a one-legged 35-year-old Kevin Durant.

Oops, we're going to get rid of Kevin Durant for next to nothing. By the time this is out, it'll be pretty dated, but I think, is it Danny Aange who runs the jazz? Yeah, yeah, he's the jazz GM now, I believe. Taking the draft was last night at the time of this recording, taking Ace Bailey when when Ace Bailey made it really clear, I don't want to go to Utah. don't want to play for the jazz. Do not have me go here.

I don't want to do this. I won't work out with you. I don't want anything to do with you. And then the jazz going, that's great. Welcome to the Utah Jazz. Is so fucking funny. That's incredible.

That's incredible. The Reddit comments last night I was watching, because I was in the car driving home during the draft. So I was just keeping up with it on Reddit on like the mega thread. And the comments were so fucking funny.

They were like, Ace Bailey, go fuck yourself. Also, welcome to the team. You're not a big sports guy. Hope you like dirty soda asshole Do you have a fandom that is based in suffering And the way that sports is Like is there anything that you enjoy

That ultimately is just brings you misery Maybe Bond movies Really you think they're more bad Bond movies Like I was trying to equate like What would be his equivalent of sports fandom Because Gavin doesn't really care about sports Yeah I don't really know what anyone said For the last five minutes

But I remember always getting excited for the new Bond And it seems like the first Bond movie Video Actor is always great and then it's just a steaming pile of sliding downhill until they change acting. You know, that's kind of how I feel about Mission Impossible movies. I'm always really excited for them

and then I watch it and I go, eh, I wasn't three. Are you excited about Denny Bellanue directing the next one or no? I didn't even know. Oh, really? Oh, this is how you found out? Oh my goodness.

Yeah, they just announced, they announced a yes to that. I'm not interested in stuff until I could watch or use it. Got it. Like, I've never enjoyed E3. Like, I don't, like, hearing about stuff that's coming out. I just let me know when it's ready. You don't like anticipating things?

No, I don't really watch trailers if I could have helped it and... Well, I get that, but, like, the concept of being anti-anticipation is really fun. It's just too much. Like, I remember getting excited when they did that, uh, Elder Scroll 6 announcement. And a more time has passed since that announcement than the time gap between Skull Skyrim and that announcement. Holy hell. Yeah, like, I get what you're saying, but there's, I just, I find it, the idea of, like,

I don't like looking forward to things is the statement that you're making. Nah, but I'm, I'm kind of with you. I'm with you. Well, there's like, there's a nice window of it. Like, like, for example, right now, could not be more excited about that Donkey Kong game. I'm, I'm so excited, but it's only like a month away. I don't want to hear about anything that's more than a month away. Really?

I'm kind of with you on that, though, because I am, I could not be more excited for the Donkey Kong game. Absolutely. But also, I don't want to keep thinking about it because I can't play it right now, and I'm frustrated that I can't play it right now. See, I have the reverse, like, I get what you're saying, but for me, it's like the people that made Hitman are making that new James Bond game. And I just read a story about how there is, there are rumors that that James Bond game will have, like, elusive. of target type mission type things where it's like timed missions that I never considered that

I never considered any live service aspect of that game sort of like Hitman has and I'm so excited for that possibility yeah I just feel like being excited now doesn't do anything for me there you get the excitement now well it just doesn't change anything does it brings joy to my life

is what I get from it I'm happy about it Gavin rejects your joy he does to be honest I did like go to E3 a bunch a decade ago and I was I was never excited

to be there and I love games yeah I don't it's definitely I mean they used to have games on the floor though right like there were some playable things

I feel like yeah until until 30 minutes into the show and then they broke and then there'd be a sign on and they'd say could you come back in a little bit later we're working on fixing

the build interesting Ethan he sucked I'm with you I think it's a better format this way like what we get now, I think, is a better totally great thing

for E3. It was great for a time and it's just the time sort of passed and I think that's just fine. I don't know, it's just like the only thing I ever took away from them was all the things people would complain about and I'd just end up just leaving an event where everyone was bitching about something. I feel like E3 died from

you and Gary Coleman did. He was such a big part of E3 every year. I'd always see him there doing stuff and he wasn't anymore. Interesting tie-in. I like going back and rewatching E3 press conferences because you know the story of everything like how it all worked out

yeah so like games that like you forget had a huge presentation and backing for their reveal and then being like oh nobody ultimately played that or cared about that like a Volvo yes there is a string I recently rewatched I think was

E3 2015 for Xbox and it was like a Valve scale bound and a fable multiplayer only It was like three games in a row that never came out, and they were just back to back to back. And it was so funny watching it now. You're like, oh, none of these happen. None of this stuff works out.

And I think just the more I learned about that industry is, I just feel like people would work on a game. It'd be like Crunch Central, and then they'd be cramming to get something out for E3 that would end up not being in the game. Or like not, or they couldn't physically couldn't ship that in the game. It's just like, why are we bothering to do this? is this is like pointless man-made hurdle in game development totally

good promo though it is and it's like a thing where I think the way they do it now is so much healthier for everybody involved in that industry but I do I do miss the absurdity of every company

having to put on this giant event within like two hours of each other back to back to back to back trying to outdo each other yes fighting to rent spaces and theaters around

San Diego to or L.A. to fucking have their dumb events at. And they're like, hey, check it out. Cirque de Soleil is here. Now play this video game. Just nice having a bunch of people get together to try to identify

like an exotic bird or something like that. The fuck is this thing. Well, now that we're back around to the exotic birds, this is, if this was Christopher Reeves horse, it'd be time for Gavin to go around back and Put two between its eyes.

Put this baby to bed. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Regulation podcast. Be on the lookout for some drafts in the near future and some gameplay videos. And maybe we'll all get kidnapped by our legs and film it. You never know here on Regulation. We'll see you next time. Bye.