Regulation Podcast - Rat City in the Dream House // Kidnapping Yourself to Sleep [111]

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about office rats, hallway rats, aerial rats, wall holes, diverticulitus, shingles, Geoff house, documents, yelling, funhaus vs fun house, Andrew's childhood home, kidnapp...ing, grass, Earthshaker, Milley, pool, edge of chaos, cat disaster, NBA, Spurs Game 5, sports, migraine reasons, and Spitting Image. Sponsored by Mint Mobile. Make the switch! MINTMOBILE.com/REGULATION Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Regulation Podcast. This is episode 111. My name is Jeff Ramsey with me as always, Andrew Panton, Gavin Free, Nick Schwartz, Eric Bador. Make a wish. I got two ways I can start. I got two ways to start this podcast. You guys let me know which one you want. Number two.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Okay. I want it number. Ooh, Gavin said two. I'm going to go with one. All right. Number one is going to be what Jeff's been doing for the last month behind the scenes that he can finally talk about maybe. and number two is going to be the horror of our office.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Two. Oh, no. I've picked good. I want two. I guess two. All right. Tell me about it. We've had rats.
Starting point is 00:00:42 We've had a rat problem. You know, we keep finding rat turds in the, uh, in the hallway. I put down poison from the landlord that seems to have done nothing. We put the rat traps down. We've heard. You made them stronger. You made them stronger. The rat traps only got us, but they got us a lot.
Starting point is 00:00:59 So I feel like they were worth it. Every single one of us got rat trapped at some point on camera even, except for Nick. But then I'll set up a very complicated mousetrap for Nick that he can't help but fall into. Sometimes soon. Put it on his chair. Yeah, exactly. So unsatisfied, I contacted a pest control company. And I had them come out and do an evaluation of the house.
Starting point is 00:01:24 This was on Tuesday. Oh boy. By myself. You guys weren't around. Spent a lot of time at the office this week. You guys are about to understand why. Pest guy came, walked right into the hallway. I showed him where the rat turds were, and he goes, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 He goes, yeah, anywhere you see the rat turds, that's probably where they're coming in or out. So they're probably coming in or out in, like, next to a pipe. There's probably like a little bit of extra space, and they're, like, squeezing through that or whatever. So let me get down on the ground. Let me find it. And so he goes through the hallway, there's no holes in the nowhere they could come through in the hallway. He's like, that's a little strange. He goes, ah, but the bathroom's right here.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So he goes in the bathroom. He comes out. man, there's nothing in the bathroom. And I said, well, there's the break show room over here and the other bathroom. And then there's the streaming room. We're all connected to the hallway. So he goes through all of those rooms. He comes that and he goes, man, I can't find anywhere they're getting in. Let's check the rest of the house. So he checks the living room. He checks the kitchen. We open Gavin and Nick's secret door and we go into that side of the house. Which, by the way, we have roaches in that side of the house. And so we can take, we'll have to take care of that soon. And he comes back out and he goes, man, there are no rat droppings anywhere else in this house.
Starting point is 00:02:31 They aren't getting in anywhere else in the house. If they were, there would be rat droppings there. Where they are is where the rat droppings are. So they are only in your hallway somehow, which makes no sense. What? I go, okay. So he goes, let me look again, man. And he goes back in and he looks and he looks.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And then he starts looking up. And then he's looking at the ceiling. And he goes, found it. And I go, oh, great. And I run in. And he points to the ceiling where he points. where the air vent is for the filter. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Oh, no. You know how, I don't know how much you guys, and by you guys, I'm mostly talking to the audience. I don't know how often you guys change air filters, but I will say the people that make the air filter contraption, the gate and the, you know, with the slots through with the two cheap little prongs to put it in place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Those are, fuck those guys. First, out of the irrespective of what we're about to go through. Yeah, dude, let's get them. Hell yeah. I'm so sick of those cheap pieces of shit. They're the same in every fucking house. They bend, they break, they never go together properly. I fucking, at some point in this process, I bent hours fully in half because it was swinging down.
Starting point is 00:03:42 It caught on the door. I tried to shut the door to the break room. And it was like just grabbing it. And so it would like folded like an accordion. So I had to like take it off and perform surgery to put it back together so I could put our filter back in. Right. So anyway, the guy points up.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And what I'm looking at is the filter and think like 24 by 24 or whatever it is, right? Okay. One of the edges is hanging down. It's like disconnected. And so it's like maybe like three inches off the ceiling there. And sticking out of that hole are dozens of rat turns. Oh, wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And he goes, there's your problem. It's up there. and I go, what do we do? And he goes, they're not in your house. If they were in your house, you'd know it. What's happening is a couple times a day, maybe you jostle, you walk through the room,
Starting point is 00:04:36 maybe you turn the AC on. It's just knocking some rat turds that are up there down into your house. So you get ready to throw up. So he goes, so I would just get up in there and clean that out and you're good to go. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:04:49 What about the ceiling rats? He goes, I can quote it. We can look at it. He goes, if they wanted to be in your house, they'd already be in your house. They're just in your ceiling. Or these are just old turds and they're no longer in your ceiling. But they're not getting into your house. And I said, well, how much, before we go into the gross part, I go, well, how much, what do you get?
Starting point is 00:05:07 What to get rid of them? And he goes, I'll walk you around the outside of the house and show you. And I go, okay. And he goes, okay, to fix the rat problem in your attic, we're going to have to go through. We're going to have to patch outside. And he goes, we're going to want to look for holes in the side of the house that they can get through, like that one and that one and that one and that one and that one and this entire wall he goes it would be so god damn expensive to patch this house up i can't you it's you can't afford it he's like and he goes
Starting point is 00:05:38 i'll be honest with you the rats aren't getting in your house they're in your attic you just need to fix this problem in you're good so i'm like okay you know uh he leaves i grab a chair i get up to the side of the filter and, you know, one is disconnected, the other one isn't. So I pop it and open it and, uh, 1,000 rat turds fell on me. Oh my God. Good God. No. We were worried, we were worried when one was on the floor about, like, breathing near it. And it's in the freaking air thing? Yeah, we're just been breathing rat turds for, I guess, a little over a year. Oh, which is amazing how healthy we all are. Like, congratulations to our constitution. We're stronger than
Starting point is 00:06:21 ever. We're, we have the strength of some sort of rat superpowers. Yeah, we have the strength of a million rats. I'm going to say you guys, bear with me just for a second while I send you some photos. Yeah, send them. Just, just, just to, I didn't make a lot of photos. I'll be honest with you. Something
Starting point is 00:06:38 happened to me in that moment. Very similar, very similar to when I discovered the melted cow in my backyard. and I had to go into like, I had to shut down. I had to shut down as a human being and I had to become a robot to then deal with the thousands of rat turds. For the audience, I posted a photo of the air filter.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You posted five folders of just rat shit crazy style. Oh God, remove, I'm minimizing this window. So I got pretty covered in rat shit. shit. So I cleaned myself off. And then I got in the car and I drove to Home Depot and I bought a new air filter and I bought a vacuum cleaner for us. And I came home to the office and I spent about an hour cleaning that mess up. Then I just, I was like in a daze. Like in a fugue state. Yeah. The only way I can describe it. Like your body completely. It's like when you like break your arm and you're like,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I have to get to the hospital and nothing else matters. And you're just like, you know, you're just like, you're on a mission to and your sanity takes a, takes a, a break while you just fucking pound through it, right? I also, I would maybe argue that this is like white belt level stuff compared to what you dealt with in the Detroit house that you rented? Like, this is another. Oh yeah, yeah. Andrew, I'm with
Starting point is 00:07:57 you. Like, this is awful and I feel for you, Jeff, and this is like really fucking bad. Oh, terrible. I'm sorry that you had to deal with it. This isn't even like scratching the surface of what you dealt with in Detroit. I'm glad you guys feel that way because I feel differently. I feel like I'm looking at a year of air we've been breathing. And that bothers me a lot. This, this is worse to me. This is worse to me.
Starting point is 00:08:20 This is like, so, this is like, interesting. Poo-poo-poo pee-p I can deal with. This is endemic. This is, yeah. And so I went home and I took a shower and then I just kind of sat down on my sofa and I just disappeared for like an hour. And when I came back, I was like, what did I just go through? You know? Like, and I was, I got to go back and keep cleaning. I need to disinfect it. I need to sanitize it and I just couldn't. I couldn't bring myself to go back to the office on Tuesday evening. So Wednesday I got up and I went to Home Depot and I bought every cleaning supply known to man and I went back to the office and I sanitized and disinfected and bleached and cleaned the entire hallway, every cord and cable in the hallway, the carpet, the walls, the ceiling. It is the
Starting point is 00:09:07 cleanest this place has ever been. We will clean that air filter monthly from here on out. And and I think we're okay but that was truly horrific and I'm ready to move what is what are the rules like if you just sent that to the landlord surely they would have to do something
Starting point is 00:09:29 yeah we'll see I'll send it to him we'll see nobody he gave me he's the one who put the rat poison down that did nothing so we'll see well he wasn't putting it in the freaking ceiling also I just you know I really sucked. Yeah, I do. I feel for you. I appreciate it. I'm annoyed that it was like that for so long, and none of us thought to check the air filter in general. I mean, it's dirty. It's not like the
Starting point is 00:09:55 dirtiest air filter you've ever seen or anything. I think we did replace it at some point last year. I like vaguely remember doing that. But yeah, something to keep an eye on. And I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm going to have to take a bit of an emotional break from the office for a little bit. I never want to go there ever again. I don't want to go there. I'm fine going there. It's fucking clean now, you dickheads. It's the nicest it's ever been.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You can eat floor in the hallway. Don't not go there now. It was a problem yesterday. Today, it's great. I mean, I'll be there tomorrow. I don't care. I don't know. What's the rest of the inside of the ceiling like?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Who cares? Surely can't go there. Yeah, I think we can. I think we've been going there for well over a year and everybody's healthy and fine. And now there's way less rat shit in the ceiling. I imagine it's old. It also looks like, it also just looks like leaves and shit too. So I think it's just old, it might just be old rat shit that every time we turn the AC on, it just blows through. I don't know. We'll keep an eye on it, though. Let's immediately, let's definitely not renew our lease. And I will bring all this to the landlord, but I don't expect a hell of a lot of work on his end, you know. Well, that's the return, right? So we're not getting that air blasted on. That's true. That's the return. We're not getting that air blasted on us. You're 100% right. That to me,
Starting point is 00:11:10 Those pictures... You okay? Did he just disappear? Did we lose, Gavin? He's got... The pictures fucking took him out, dude. The picture. The picture.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He vanished. I will say, I feel terrible for you, Jeff. I feel great for me. Because I've done plenty of patrols as Dillbot looking for that rat, never found anything. I was questioning my searching game. No rat to be found. I can't look up.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I would have never found that. It's crazy that. that's what this is, but I do think that Mark the Frog is going to have a lot to say about how often we need to change these things, and we could have found this a lot sooner if we had just stuck to a schedule. And he's not wrong. No, he's right. He's going to read us the riot act, and he's right.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yep. That is a landlord thing, though. That is a hundred percent. That's a landlord thing. Yep. Yep. It isn't falling you. But anyway, the house is clean now.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Good. Uh, it's very clean now. Like I said, I disinfected and I used an amazing array of cleaning supplies. And, uh, that's the update on Regulation HQ. We do not have, I'm happy to say we do not have rats in our house. Unfortunately, we do have rats above our house. I think this is Eric's dream scenario, to be honest. Yeah, that's high up.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. We don't need to worry about that. Yeah, they're like our upstairs tenants or upstairs neighbors. And so, anyway, that's the, that's where we are on that. It's been a truly horrific week in terms of that for me. But it is handled and clean. And I didn't want to bug anybody else with it in the moment. I just wanted to get it handled.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And I was, and once again, I was, I was operating on remote. I wasn't, I wasn't in control of my body for most of Tuesday. I was gone. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate you handling it too. I woke up at home later and realized what I'd been through. You doing that is, I really, really appreciate it. It's definitely a thing of like, I don't know how else it would have gotten handled if you just didn't handle it the way that you did.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So thank you very much. No problem. Would you say, Eric, that your rat tolerance is higher than like 90% of the population? It's not even like a rat tolerance here that I see that or whatever. It's just that like, I think you and I were on the same page where everything Jeff described at like the Detroit House was. a hundred million times worse than this. And this is gross and vile. Like, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Oh, terrible. I'm not downplaying this. Me saying that something else is worse does not make this bad. No. This is bad. And it's gross and awful. The, like, leaking shit piss water
Starting point is 00:13:54 through a diarrhea house is like so much worse than this. I can't even, like, it's hard for me to, like, quantify. I think the difference was I never touched any of the shit. shit. In this scenario, the shit rained down on me in copious amounts. Totally understand. Very fair. Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally get it. I completely understand how you feel and why you feel the way you do. Completely. I just, that this is like almost not even comparable
Starting point is 00:14:22 to me in the way that like, you know, I used to work at Target and had to clean like shit piss bathroom that is just like how did, like how did you shit up a wall? Like, you know, like that kind of a thing. And so there's a lot of sort of like that feeling of, yeah, I can go into like the fugue state and like clean this up whatever. This is not human feces. I was definitely drawing on my experience working at the Sydney's fried chicken in theater, Alabama and cleaning those bathrooms, as well as cleaning a lot of army bathrooms. And let me tell you something, you want to see what, you do not want to see what 60 soldiers will do to eight toilets. No, I don't want to know. I just imagine, because you're such a rat guy, Eric, that in my head, like, these rats came with you.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That, like, when you first got into the office, that you're like a trench coat that you opened up and all the rats deployed into the ceiling. You think they were a trench coat. You think they were, you think I brought them in a trench coat. That's just sort of what I imagine you is like a superhero rat guy that, like, you walk into a place, trench coat, all rats in the coat. You open the coat. They all scurry to situate, get all set up. it's not so much that I like the animal, the rat. It's that I, I, I, I can see eye to eye with it.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Like, I identify, like, the scurrying, the scrounging, you know, what it has to do to get by. That, I understand, I understand the ins and outs of the rat that mostly. What was the last time you scurried, Gavin? Just then, when, uh, my internet went out for like three straight minutes. I feel like I could have missed anything. Uh, no, yeah, no. Yeah. You didn't really. In the background, I can hear my wife on the phone talking to somebody,
Starting point is 00:16:07 and it is, I'm so fucking upset and scared and nervous about that, whatever that is right now. Why? Because of everything else going on. Oh, I just, I can't. I'm so freaked out. I can't. I don't. You wanting to lead into number one? Yeah. I, uh, as you guys know, it's been an eventful month or so for me. Um, we had the anniversary, which was a big deal. I went on the cruise. We, I had diverticulitis, which lasted about a week and a half longer than the audience knows. It came back. It came back and I had a second bout with it. But I'm 100% now. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I saw Jeff in pajama pants. That's how bad it was. Yeah, I came to work in pajama pants. Does it never usually relapse like that? That's never happened to me before. Oh, God. Yeah, I've never, I've never had that relapse before. Double relapse, kind of. But I'm also getting older and it was a good excuse to go to my gastroenterologist eventually. And, you know, I'm doing, I'm getting my colonoscopy in August. And it was, it helped precipitate all that. although I would have done all that without the pain. I would have happily done all that without the diverticulitis.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Anyway, and then of course in the middle of my diverticulitis, the stress gave Emily shingles, and that was three weeks of hell for her. And throughout the whole course of this, all of this, I have been keeping a secret in that, I mean, you guys have been aware of it, but as the universe tends to do, it likes to catch you off guard,
Starting point is 00:17:27 and it likes to throw an audible your way when you're not in any position to deal with it. about a month ago, in the middle of all this during diverticulitis, the house of my dreams came on the market. And in Austin, rather, not in Michigan. The house of my dreams came on the market in Austin. It kind of fell into our laps, and Emily and I decided to buy it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And so in the background, when all this stuff has been going on, like the cruise, every single morning, the eight days of the cruise, Emily and I got up at 7 a.m. or whatever, had our coffee, and then went straight to the business center to start faxing and printing out and signing and faxing forms. Because something about buying a house in 2026 has made it so much more complicated than ever before. This is my fourth house I've been fortunate enough to own in my life. The previous three altogether, were easier to buy than this one house. And it's so frustrating because I'm arguably in better shape than I've ever been in my life. I'm older. I'm more mature. My finances are better at 50 than they were at 30 or even 40. You know, I've been responsible. I've been saving. I'm in a good
Starting point is 00:18:47 place. You know, regulations doing well. But, and I don't want to get into the weeds of how I bought the house or the behind the scene stuff we've talked about because, you know, I don't want to docks myself and I don't want to, you know, give away too much information. But it's been incredibly complicated to buy this house every step of the way. I looked at the portal. I sent, and I sent you guys a video of me scrolling through it. Through the course of buying this house, Emily and I sent more than 100 documents to the lender and the title company, more than 100.
Starting point is 00:19:18 When you send that video, I was like, man, that's a lot. And I didn't realize it was a video. I just thought it was a screenshot. And then it started scrolling it. I was like, Jesus Christ. And I wasn't done. I was sending documents yesterday. And so I was supposed to close on my house. I wanted to come in this morning at 11 a.m. when we record and announce to you guys that I'm the new, I'm a honam owner again.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I found the house of my dreams. But my closing last night at 8 p.m. got pushed. What? Because they weren't ready. Because people dropped the ball because there were miscommunications. and so now I'm closing at 2.30 p.m. today. And if I don't close at 2.30 p.m. today, if there is another holdup, I lose this house. I lose the earnest money I put into it because the seller is difficult. And the contract ends today, and they're saying they won't extend it. They will start the process over again, even though I don't believe them, but I just, I can't, said, seller's been difficult, the bank has been difficult, the title company has been difficult. the seller's real estate agent has been difficult.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It has been an unmitigated nightmare. And buying the house of my dreams has turned into, and I guess you could predict this because it's me. But me buying the house of my dreams has turned into the nightmare of my life. I cannot tell you how stressful it is. And I cannot tell you how I have no confidence. I already paid for the house, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I wired the money. I have no confidence that I'm going to have those keys in my hand at 3.30 or 4 o'clock today or whenever I'm supposedly done closing. And I can't tell you how frustrating and upsetting that is. Not just that. Before I came in today to do this podcast, I did the final walk through the house. they were supposed to have a deep cleaned. I've never seen a dirtier house in my life. Oh, my God. We're getting a new fridge anyway, but the freezer has like standing grime in the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:21:19 There was a sock on the ground and one of the, a dirty sock on the ground. There's a pair of old shoes on the front porch. There was littered trash in the background, in the backyard I had to pick up. Because of the thing I just went through with the rats, the first thing I did on the inspector, the final walk through this morning as I popped all the
Starting point is 00:21:39 all the filter gates to see what size filters we have so that I could immediately go out and buy and replace them house has three filter gates in it how many filters do you think were in those filter gates? Oh, no. Zero! Trick question! The house didn't have fucking air filters in it? What are they doing? I assume they took them out because they were dirty and just said fuck the new guys, they can figure it out. I didn't even have to bring a tape measure
Starting point is 00:22:02 or just a measure to see what fucking size they are because I didn't have any to compare it to. I've never seen a dirty year. There was zero. There was standing grime in the shower and on the sink and on the countertops. I had to, in the moment at 9.15 a.m., Emily had to hire cleaners to come in and deep clean the house tonight because the owners didn't fulfill that obligation. And we've already contacted the team and they're like, yeah, they said fuck you essentially. Why is the
Starting point is 00:22:34 The sellers the ones Who are holding all the power here They should be scrambling to get this right You should be put it You should be threatened to pull that Dude don't even get me fucking started I don't even know what to tell you The process has been difficult
Starting point is 00:22:48 Almost aggressively difficult Every step of the way I almost felt like they were angry To have to sell the house to me I don't know if they just don't want to move And they don't want to sell it or what But it has been Just
Starting point is 00:23:00 obfuscation and frustration. And I feel like I can talk about it today, even though I don't technically own the house. Because if I get to 5 p.m. today and I don't own the house, I'm not getting the house. I'm walking away. I don't give a fuck. And I'm gonna...
Starting point is 00:23:14 I have yelled at more people in the last two days. And you know me, I don't like... I know it seems like I like to yell because I'm putting positions in podcasts where I have to be... I mean, these heightened emotions. I don't like to yell. I'm a peaceful, quiet dude,
Starting point is 00:23:30 especially as I've gotten older. And I have yelled more in the last two days than I can remember yelling previously in my life. And I worked at Achievement Hunter for like 15 fucking years. I managed Ray and Michael and Matt and Lindsay and Trevor and Jeremy and Gavin and fucking Jack who had to get yelled out a lot. I have yelled at so many fucking people in my life. And it doesn't hold a candle to the fucking trade I unleashed on people over the phone
Starting point is 00:23:59 yesterday from about 3 p.m. until 8 p.m. I didn't stop yelling for five hours, I think. And I just am at my wits end. I started the week off getting rat shit rained down on my head, and I'm ending the week with just every conceivable difficulty buying this fucking house. So when this podcast comes out, next Wednesday, whenever the podcast comes out next Wednesday, I either have a house or I'm not going to have a house. And I'm really fucked if I don't have a house because my landlord's expected me to move out because he's got new tenants. Oh, shit. And I bet you didn't leave a sock in one of the rooms?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Dude, the sock was gross. It was nothing compared to the dirty Chuck Converse that I found under on the front porch, under the furniture that they didn't leave, that they left and didn't take. I mean, if you want to look on the bright side, you had the rat thing happen, and it completely killed any emotion you had.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And this brought all the emotion back. It did. You went full swing. It did. It pulled you out of that emotion. emotionalist dead state, maybe to an extreme that you didn't want to hit, but you're back. At one point yesterday, because I've been trying my hardest to bend over backwards, to be accommodating the second thing. The joke has always been like, you guys send us the documents before we
Starting point is 00:25:16 finish sending the email you're so fast. It's like, yeah, because I wanted to avoid this. I wanted to avoid the 11th hour having it all fall apart. I wanted to avoid going to bed the night before closing, not sure if I'm closing the next day, because that's not how it's supposed to happen. And that's not how it's happened to any of the previous fucking times I've done it. I wanted to avoid the closing getting pushed on the fucking day. I wanted to avoid all of that. So we were on top of it. We over communicated. We provided over a hundred documents. It's been, I just, at some point yesterday at about two o'clock, we just hit a wall where things were starting to get harder and they were throwing curveballs that they had no business
Starting point is 00:25:55 throw into us. And Emily just, she texted me and she said, I really hate, I really hate to do this, but I need you to get mad. And I said, okay. And then that was it. And I haven't stopped being mad. I can't come down. I'm not going to be able to come down until I have those fucking keys in my hand or I begin to enact the most complicated revenge on possible on earth on about 11 people. I just, it's one of the other is going to have to, it's either I'm either going to diffuse it with revenge or I'm going to diffuse it by holding the key in my hand. But like, dude, if this house fells through, I got foundation work coming, I got a plumber scheduled, I have an electrician scheduled, I have a yard guy scheduled, I have a garage door guy scheduled, I have a
Starting point is 00:26:38 cleaner scheduled, I have a security guy scheduled, I have, if there is a, I have a fence guy scheduled, there, I, I've put money down on stuff. If I don't get this house, the electricity is going to be in my name by the end of the day. The internet's getting installed soon. The fucking gas is going to be in my name by the end of the day. If this house falls through, I'm going to lose my fucking mind, and I'm not coming back. This is the edge. This is the cliff that I fucking fall off, and there's no return, boys.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm going down in a blaze of glory, and I'm taking every motherfucker involved with me. This is what I think you should do. You should combine your things. apparently it's rat city living above the workspace I think you catch all the rats and you release them into the dream house Andrew's got to figure it out
Starting point is 00:27:30 Andrew's got to figure it out it's rat city baby move the rat city to the dream house I like your ideas Andrew like to discuss them in greater detail like Barbie's dream house off camera the rat version what sucks too is that I
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Starting point is 00:29:31 Like the company or like the crazy mirrors type thing? No, like the show. Louie turns out, he's British. Did you know that? Stuart Little's dad. Crazy. My childhood home is for sale. and I've talked about aspects of it
Starting point is 00:29:51 and it's great that it's for sale because there are photos of it and I can share some of these now and provide some context to things I've previously talked about so apologies for doing such a visual thing really quickly but I wanted to share I talked about once that my childhood home
Starting point is 00:30:08 had the dumbest room that I've ever seen in any house ever where it has no doors to access it it is past the railing that my dad would have to jump to access it because he put speakers up there and I have a photo now at which I could share of that room look at this stupid room yeah it makes no sense yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was like dude though that was every for some reason every build had something like that at some point where they just went yeah this will be be a good place to put nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, they were like, people want tall ceilings, but then they're like, yeah, it seems a little empty up there. We should do something with some of that ceiling. Mm-hmm. And give you a little useless landing. So is this the only picture you have of the place you grew up? I don't have any photos of it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's crazy. Not photos of you being in it as a child? Not like a Christmas running. I lived there until I was like eight or nine. I didn't have a camera. Why am I taking photos? That looks nice. You want to buy it back?
Starting point is 00:31:16 It was very nice. Are you gonna buy it? Yeah. No, absolutely not. Thanks. It's also expensive. Wouldn't that be cool though to to live in the same house twice?
Starting point is 00:31:27 You should find out how much your parents paid for it when they bought it so you can compare it to what it cost now. Oh, skylights. The second photo really quickly. This fireplace is where I set myself on fire once. Oh, wow. Awesome. Look at those skylights.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Scent in front of it too long and I started smoking and then everyone's like you're on fire. And then lastly, a visual context to an image. These are the stairs that on one of my birthdays at a sleepover, it was carpeted stairs at that time. And we slid down it over and over again and sleeping bags for like hours. That's the shit. And then yeah, I hurt my leg. Like I caused a clot in my leg and I couldn't walk the next day and I had to get rushed to the hospital. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Those stairs took me out. He's such a delicate boy. A blood clot? I don't know exactly. It was a thing where I woke up and I couldn't move my leg and I remember having a limp that whole summer. That's all I remember. What the clots could you get?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Could you get like a lymph clot? I don't know if you can get a lymph clot. I assume blood clot. That'll be the name of my band. That's my positive house. That's a really nice house. It's a gorgeous house and there's zero desire to buy that house. Zero.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Absolutely. Even if you could afford it and it wasn't expensive if you wouldn't want it. Yeah. I don't know why. And don't take offense to this, but I imagined you growing up
Starting point is 00:32:55 in a shittier house. Oh, I didn't. That was next house. Okay. I felt like that came later. It did. Okay. Yeah, that's just...
Starting point is 00:33:08 It also did not look like this. Incredible. There have been a lot of changes from... Wow. Live there. I think because of all the stories I've heard about your current room,
Starting point is 00:33:17 and all of the limitations of that. I just applied that to your entire life, I guess. That's fair. That's a fair assumption. Speaking of, you did a, talked about in the beginning of recapping, sleep positions. I've changed my sleep game a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:35 in a way that has brought me a lot of joy that Eric would hate. I think about it every time I get in a position because Eric does not like compression, essentially on himself, right? That's fair. Yeah. Yes, correct. So what I've been doing is I have a shirt that's kind of stretchy because I misplace my eye mask and I haven't been able to find it. So this has been my fix, but it has had a side benefit.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Suck. Where I roll my shirt up to make it as long as I can. And then I wrap it around my head and I twist it and I tighten it as hard as I can. So it's squeezing my head. And then I lay down and like clamp it on the pillow with the back of my head. And so it covers my eyes like a mask, but it also squeezes my head. What it feels like while I'm doing it is like when those videos are the people that put a bunch of rubber bands on a watermelon. Like that is sort of the sensation I have.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I find it strangely comforting. Are you kidnapping yourself to sleep? Like what are you doing? I have not. I'm going to be honest. I have not combined the position with that setup because it did feel a little bit too much like I was kidnapping myself to sleep. Yeah, because last time you were cuffed in the night and this time you'll be blindfolded. So what will it be next?
Starting point is 00:34:57 You'll be a gag, a ball gag? I got to see, Pat. So that's sort of sort of there. So you're going to bed with your hands behind your back blindfolded and then like with a like a muzzle over your mouth and nose. and then you're just like, ah, rest. You're either, your eyes are either relaxing closed or you're fighting to get them closed depending on which side of that argument you land on
Starting point is 00:35:27 and you're restful. Can you imagine a caveman looking at Andrew's sleep setup? No. This is what we have to do to go to sleep in the future. Do you think tomorrow night you'll try sleeping in the boot of a car? No, I'm not a car sleep. Have you considered instead of just sleeping on your hands, tying them behind your back, and then sleeping?
Starting point is 00:35:51 No, that would be too much. I'm not a knots guy. It would be binding your ankles as well. I tried the sleeping with my hands under my back. I tried it. How did that go? Horific. It was dogshy.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I made it six minutes before I was wildly uncomfortable. My hands were tingling, that I was getting numb. How can you fall asleep like that? I don't know. I found it comfy. And I was hoping you guys would too. I was hoping this would be a whole thing, but I accept.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, I guess I positioned it as I did hurt both of my shoulders the first time I did it. So advising people maybe not to try it, but did anyone else try it? I tried laying down like that and it was like my hands were immediately like, tingling like,
Starting point is 00:36:38 oh, these hands are going to fall asleep. And that is so bad. It's so bad. I'll be honest. I've been distracted. I forgot to do it. No, that's fair. I excuse you, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Jeff, I think you deserve some really good sleep. Consider handcuffing your hands behind your back, laying on them, and also having somebody blindfold you so you can get a restful night. Maybe like put a t-shirt around me and then like maybe cinch a belt over that or something. Yeah, we'll put like a gasoline-soaked rag in your mouth and then just tie your ankles. and then you can drift off to La La Land. On the bright side for all the people that loved all of Jeff's home owning misery.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm back in the game, baby. Maybe. Knock on wood, we'll see. I do want to point out that, I mean, we do, like, we are supposed to be recording this afternoon. So, I mean, how are you sort of, like, how are you going to make that work? You and I both know I'm not.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You guys are doing a heist today because of that. Yeah, I just think it's better when all of us are there. So it's just sort of like, I just think you're like, changing like the audience a little bit. Jeff, all is forgiven. Okay, well, Nick says all is forgiven. I'll tell you what. I took the rat bullet so you guys can,
Starting point is 00:37:49 you guys can eat this one. The rat bullet. Yeah. I'm publicly very hopeful for you. Privately, I don't know how I feel yet. But publicly. If it doesn't, if it doesn't go through, here's what I've decided. If I can't,
Starting point is 00:38:08 if this house falls through, I'm buying Andrews childhood house. Yeah. Oh, this is such a good idea. That's my new home. Yeah. That'll be my new home. Yeah, Nick wants to buy another house so he can move.
Starting point is 00:38:19 This is great. Yeah, Nick wants to move anyway. Can I sleep on that landing? We put a pinball machine. That's where Earth Shaker can go. Oh, shake yourself down? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Would you feel violated, Andrew, if someone one of us lived in your house? No, I wouldn't care at all. Oh. Would you come visit? Yeah, sure. You would. Okay. Only dream the day.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I don't know. It's creepy at night. It's a creepy house at night. It's creepy house at night. It's a creepy house at night. It's a creepy house in night. That's true. Do you have a picture of the scariest pot?
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'd have to look. I found the shower pretty scary as a kid. Oh. Is that why you take baths now? Just because the water would get in my eyes and I couldn't see. Maybe panic. It's dark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Outside of that. No, just, I don't know. Just vibes. Weird vibes a little bit. Do you think? I think you have any childhood friends that were there that are still living in the neighborhood that you could go catch up with? Like, hey, remember me? No.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Well, here's the thing. When I live there, it was essentially the only house on the street on either side of me for the left or right. So the next neighbors were like the equivalent of six houses down. So it was pretty barren on my side of the street. It has since been filled. Were you the first people to live in that house? Did you live in it right after a movie? Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:43 So it was like a new neighborhood and you guys bought in early? Yes. Okay, gotcha. Yes. Gotcha. Yeah, I don't know. I was friends with the neighbor across the street, but he was like a dentist or something. You have friends with a dentist when you were nine?
Starting point is 00:39:58 I was probably like seven. I don't know what he would. The classic core. Yeah, I'd pop over. Andrew's like, no, it was worse. I was seven. When I was seven, I knew a lot of adults, but I wouldn't say I was friends with anything.
Starting point is 00:40:14 They're all my homies. Gavin, if you were in the rat situation that Jeff was in, what do you think would have happened to you? Oh, God. Were you on a ladder, Jeff, when this happened? I was on Eric's chair. What the fuck? That is incredible.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Come on, man. It was the closest thing. Fuck you. It's not your, it's not your, it's not your, it's not your, computer gaming chair. It's your break show chair. It's the same one Gavin used in the driveway. Oh yeah. I love to use that chair for stuff. That's a great, that's a great chair. I actually have to the street chair. Yeah, you left it outside. Yeah, you were I was an outside. Yeah, it was the outdoor chair for a while. Well, it's because I was doing something outside with it, right? Yeah, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I know. Also, also, also, real quick, just as like an update, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm dropping this in here for us. Is that where the camera was? Well, it's where the old one was. He hasn't put the new one up yet. Okay. I pulled up the other day and then went, was there a camera?
Starting point is 00:41:26 I could not for the life of me remember if you would put the camera there or not. And then it can't happen again, no. Do we even talk about that that somebody stole the camera? No. Not twice. I thought it was two times.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So I was putting, I don't put a new camera. And obviously, I don't know where, I don't know if we have a ladder. I couldn't find one. So obviously I took Eric's great chair, pulled that outside. And then I realized I was absolutely covered in hundreds of bugs. That's right. You brought it up, I think, on the last episode where you were covered in like the
Starting point is 00:41:59 little biting bugs and then we figured out that that's probably what's inside Jeff's car. But why, but then you left, you just left my chair. Well, you didn't want to bring the bugs inside. And then Jeff covered it in rat shit. Now it's covered in ratchet So I uh I started
Starting point is 00:42:14 Well I looked down firstly And I felt a little tickle And I looked down and my legs were like moving It was like there was like There was like film grain in my vision I was like what's that And I was just covered in tiny little I couldn't even see that they were bugs
Starting point is 00:42:28 They were just moving dots And I was like trying to brush them off I was freaking out I almost fell off the chair I kicked the chair I was trying to get them off that I don't know what they were There were tiny little black dots
Starting point is 00:42:39 that left my legs just covered in red bumps for like two weeks. Oh, God. Might have been chiggers or something like that. Yeah. And then I had to, I like brushed them all off. I was like taking my shoes off. I was like kicking. And every time it looked like I got them all off,
Starting point is 00:42:55 I'd be like, okay, cool. And then like maybe 20 seconds later, I'd look down and they were all over me again. It's like they were coming out of me. I couldn't figure out. Sounds like my car for 48 hours. Yeah. The other thing is also I cut the grass.
Starting point is 00:43:09 So the grass was cut. Oh, nice. Took fucking forever, but I got it done. Oh, thank you. It was getting pretty crazy, but I kind of like the way that it looked. It's not like, well, I think that's where the rats and the bugs are hanging out. So, you know, want to eliminate their safe spaces. Well, it won't tickle the rats' bellies anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:25 That'll drive them into the house, you know. Tickle the rat's bellies. Again, to be clear, they're not in the house. They're in the attic above the house. They're on top of the house, yeah. Why do we keep saying that? Like, they're separate things. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Oh, they're separate. Have you been in the attic? No. All right. And they haven't been in the main house. Yeah. So you guys are separated. It's like saying,
Starting point is 00:43:47 it's like they're just in a different apartment. Kevin, you don't need to be worried until the Earth Shaker board has a new high score and it's just rat. It's RAT. That's all. Hey, hey, just so you know,
Starting point is 00:43:58 just so you know, Andrew, that's exactly what the high score is right now. That's what I use for my initials. I play an Earth Shaker as a break after I cut the grass before the yard guy got there, or not the yard guy, sorry, the rat guy got there, I played a game of Earthshaker. I got to $8.5 million on my first ball and tilted. No. Lost your bonus. I bet that's what's doing it. I don't think it's us walking under it. I think it's
Starting point is 00:44:25 every time someone gets Earthshaker multiple. I think that's shaking turds down. Well, there's no more turds to be shaken. That's it. That's exactly what it is. Wow. And the piece of shit, great is connected now. So even if there are, they're being held I can't believe the guy wasn't more interested in finding out whether there were rats in there now. He was like, oh, they're just up there. And he was like, no, they're up there. And I'm in the house. What?
Starting point is 00:44:49 It's still in the house. He was like, you're fine. He's a expert. Like, I would trust. I did. I trusted him. I trusted him completely. You know, he seemed to know what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:44:58 He also charged me $0 for it. He's like, I'm not going to charge for this, man. I was like, thanks. Appreciate that. Oh, he didn't do anything. Yeah. Well, he did. And he drove all the way out.
Starting point is 00:45:08 all over it sounds like he walked all over the inside and the outside of the house he was there for 35 40 minutes and he used his expertise to figure out where they were exactly like this this guy knows it's a good guy overly harsh yeah we are recording this on the day that game five of the Stanley Cup final is happening between Carolina and lots Vegas and I bring it up because uh Jeff and Emily's family always do these like sporting prediction pools and I get invited to them unfortunately it's mainly college football which I don't really care about at all or follow like I have zero idea so it's like completely blind but they did an NHL poll for the playoffs this year which I was very excited about and I bring it up because Millie is 7601st out of I couldn't find how many people are in it but it's over 200,000 people and it is so amusing to me she probably has no idea the last time I looked at it I haven't looked at in a while as slightest clue I assume because I've been out for a bit. The last time I looked at it was in my bracket busted.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But the last time I saw it, she had predicted the Stanley Cup with 99.7% accuracy. What? 761st in the world. It's so funny to me. I keep checking. Unfortunately, she has Vegas winning, which I would fucking hate.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So I'm really divided between the hilarity of where she would end up on the leaderboards if Vegas wins at all against Vegas losing, which I really want to have happened. By the way, I love that we have this pool, this series of, you know, we do this with basketball, hockey, and football now, and it's Emily's entire family, Andrew, Millie, obviously,
Starting point is 00:46:50 and Meg. That's the group. It's Meg, Millie, Andrew, and then Emily's family. Oh, Bird Dog. And Burn Dog. Burn Dog and Vanessa are in it, too. Yeah. I just, uh, I was feeling good about my positioning
Starting point is 00:47:03 and I checked and, uh, the semifinals fell apart. for me and my predictions, but then I noticed that Millie was still in it and I looked and I could not believe that she was, I think at the time she was like 980 and now she's 761. Incredible. It's so funny. Zero awareness of it. I would be so obnoxious if I was 760 first in a leaderboard like that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You guys would be hearing about it all the time. Poor Millie, man. In the entire time we've been going through this, she's been going through her own thing where she went on a vacation to go visit her mom and was like got to the airport of like, 5 a.m. was exhausted and didn't realize till she was at her connecting flight that she had left her purse behind with her driver's license and ID and keys and credit cards and money and everything in it at the beginning of her trip. So then she went and spent a week with her mom and then it took her 24 hours to get home. She just got home at 8 a.m. today, 8.30 a.m. How do you forget
Starting point is 00:48:00 that of all things? Yeah, I, I don't know. I tell you what you did. She learned a valuable lesson, and I'm going to guess that she never forgets that again, as she's now trying to figure out how to rebuild her life. Mm-hmm. Outside of that purse. You're on the edge of chaos, Jeff, with this house thing. And it reminded me of a story that I didn't share because it didn't, the worst thing didn't happen. So I was curious if you guys had other instances were like so close to what would be a classic
Starting point is 00:48:35 face-like story. occurred. Mine was in the hotel. When I was staying in the hotel when, when, uh, things were being repaired or, or like changed in the, the place I live in. I had a moment that was so close to being like an all time absolute disaster podcast story that I didn't tell because I avoided it. But it was a day where I was in the room by myself and I ordered something to get delivered to the room. They left it. I check. It's there. It's fine. I'm in
Starting point is 00:49:10 my underwear and a shirt. I open the door to get the bag and my cat decides to run out, which it has never done. Oh my God. As the cat runs out into like the lobby area of like all the rooms,
Starting point is 00:49:27 a dog barks. And I'm like, oh God. Is this because I, the floor of the hotel has one pet friendly floor. every pet is on this floor. The dog barks and I'm like I don't want to run to catch this cat immediately.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I don't want it to get spooked and run further away but I just react and I take five or six steps out the room grab the cat and as I turn the door is closing the entire time because I swung it open and it got to the point of closing where it like hit the inner walk
Starting point is 00:49:58 thing where it was like or did the click right before it would have closed and I made it And I just was in the room going, oh, my, I was half a second away from being locked out on my floor in my underwear, no phone, no nothing with a cat that is not, has high anxiety. It was so close to being absolute disaster. What's the state of the underwear? Are we talking like some tight E ways or some like loose boxes? Boxer briefs.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Some boxer briefs. Oh, so it was, it was snug then. A little bit, yeah. I mean, a little looseness, a little, but, but not, like, not full on, you know. Less embarrassing than just tidy whitties, but not as cool as boxers. Yes. You can't, like, you can almost, you can, I mean, you can't, but you can almost pull off boxers is just like cheap little shorts, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:55 There's no, there's nothing you can hide boxer briefs with. That is 100% underwear. There's no other way to look at it. I would have had to have carried my cat, who I'm sure would have torn me up the entire way, to the lobby, and explain the situation and try to get them to open the door for me. It would have been a mess, but I was so thankful to have avoided that. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement, and nothing says it better than this. Cadillac Optic was the number one selling luxury EV in Canada for 2025.
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Starting point is 00:51:41 Find out more at Cadillac Canada.ca. Luxury sales claim based on S&P Global Mobility Canadian New Vehicle Total Registrations for calendar year 2025 for the Cadillac definition of luxury. I was curious if you guys had any other potential things that like you almost shared but it didn't happen
Starting point is 00:51:56 the negative way. I feel like that would have been one of those things. You know, in Galaxy Quest where they had that thing that could go back in time, like seven seconds or something? Like, that would have been the time to use that, I think. Absolutely. It's like the rewind, it's like press Y to rewind in four as a six. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah. I'll be honest. The worst possible scenario usually comes to bear for me. And then it ends up as content. By the way, speaking of that, Nick, not to change the subject at all, but Nick, I'm so sorry for you and your loss. That was the most embarrassing NBA game in the history of the sport. And I'm, I feel I'm heartbroken for you.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So for people that don't follow basketball at all, what exactly happened, Jeff? Game four of the NBA finals in New York City last night. The New York Knicks are currently up to one over the San Antonio Spurs and seem to be steamrolling through it, although every game was close. I believe the spurs have led in every game by double digits. And they have led in every game with like more than with three minutes to go or something crazy like that. They took a 29 point lead in the first half last night and seemed to completely and totally demoralize the Nix. And then the Nix did that thing.
Starting point is 00:53:16 The NICs are incredibly capable of doing and very good at where they just, they never lost focus. They stayed calm. they stuck to their game plan and they just whittled that lead away until I think the fourth quarter started they were still up they were still down by
Starting point is 00:53:33 what was it Nick 17 or something 15 17 something like that and uh they fought back and the Knicks kept or the San Antonio Spurs kept making dumb young guy mistakes because they're a team full of young guys and they kept they just they lost
Starting point is 00:53:48 they got to you know when you get a 29 point lead you get a little full of yourself right and you take your foot off the gas a little bit. And they did that and the Knicks fought back. And then I don't even know how to describe the last minute, Nick. I'll let you do that. But it was awful. It was just like it felt like in slow motion the whole time.
Starting point is 00:54:08 The Knicks kept running their offense and were able to score. And there was a foul that got the spurs ahead. So at the free throw line, I think Stefan Castle hit a couple of free throws. He hit both. Yeah, he hit him both. And he's been pretty consistent that way. And then at the other end, the Knicks came back. hit a big shot with about a second left on the clock,
Starting point is 00:54:27 and then the Spurs just had the worst play and worst inbound pass ever. Right before that, too, Wimby got fouled and missed two free throws, which was huge. He did. That's right. And before that, I want to say Dylan Harper maybe missed both free throws, or somebody else missed both three throws between him and Castle.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yeah. And then Deerrin Fox had to inbound the ball. There was 1.7 seconds left. San Antonio had a timeout. So they called it, which means they inbound from the side that they shoot at, which is great, because then they have 1.7 seconds to run a play, which is not a lot of time. But when you have a guy in your team who's 11 feet tall, just throw it near the basket. He'll catch it, I promise you, and put it in.
Starting point is 00:55:09 But instead, Dearen Fox did the most befuddling jump pass I've ever seen to try to inbounds it. I think Cat tipped it. It didn't go anywhere. And then I think Harper picked up the ball and Castle did. Castle picked up the ball and just bobbled it trying to get it up to the rim, which was embarrassing because I think Harper was open under the rim somehow completely. And if Fox had thrown properly, San Antonio wins that game. But San Antonio lost that game over and over and over again the last like two minutes.
Starting point is 00:55:38 They just, every opportunity to put it out of reach, they blew it. And it was the largest comeback in the history of the NBA finals. And the, they're calling it, Charles Barkley called it the most embarrassing team in the history of basketball. And I think he's probably right. That's, I mean, that's interesting. And that's game four. At the time of this recording,
Starting point is 00:56:00 game four just happened. But Nick, you got to look forward to game five, right? Oh, I'm so excited. For the other company, they surprise me with a ticket to the game. 100% E bought Nick a ticket to the San Antonio Spurs. Game five.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Now I will say that this was a Michael idea. And it feels deep. because Michael doesn't know a lot about sports, but he knows when there's the potential for true disaster. And see, we were buying this ticket and going, Nick, what would it be like if you went to game five and they lost the whole thing and you were there?
Starting point is 00:56:37 They're not going to lose while I'm there. And that's what Nick is counting on, is they're not going to lose when they get right here. They get two days of rest between every game here on now. Sorry, I'm doing a sports thing for a second, but I'm going to say they get two days of rest. I think that benefits when Mnayama.
Starting point is 00:56:50 But I'm going to the game. I'm hoping that they have something left for me. The ticket was bought before yesterday's game. And I was thinking, even if they went down 3-1, I was still excited because those two days' rests, I think, really benefit the Spurs. But the problem is a demoralizing loss after a 29-point lead is such.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I texted the group, we have a group text chat, and I sent to it after that, I was like, so how long is the refund window? And just so you know, Jordan texted me and Michael, and he just said, did we make a big mistake? I don't know if this is funny anymore. Is Nick going to be okay? Might be too serious. You guys bought Nick a ticket to go watch the New York Knicks win the NBA finals.
Starting point is 00:57:43 By myself, Jeff. By myself. You got to make the drive down to San Antonio. to watch your team to watch the Larry and Brian trophy be presented to the New York next. My wife keeps saying, are you getting a hotel? I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And then she's like, if they lose, I don't want you to die. You should get a hotel. What is she thinks going to happen? You're going to drive off a bridge on the way home? Yeah, maybe. I mean, I thought about jumping off the roof last night, but it's not a fucking high enough.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Publicly, Nick, I'll be very sympathetic towards whatever happens. Privately. Privately might be different. Yeah. Publicly. Yeah. Do you have any rituals, Nick?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Do you have like a good luck shirt to wear like some nice socks? I had a new hat that I had been really lucky through the tail end of the, the Western Conference finals when they beat the Thunder. I got it before game six and game seven and the Spurs were down three, two. They won those last two games to win the series. And I had a, uh, I wore it forwards until we fell behind, and then I would flip it backwards
Starting point is 00:58:53 is the way that I would do it, and then I would flip it back, depending on what happened. It didn't come in handy in the first two games. It was, yeah. So I went away from the hat in game three, but they won, and I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to wear the hat,
Starting point is 00:59:06 so I didn't wear it last night during the game, game four for the Knicks Spurs. And then when the Spurs started to blow the lead, I grabbed the hat again and put it out backwards, and I was like, and I was pacing to my office, and I was on a call with some friends. and I was like, I don't know what to do with the hat.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Do I flip it forward? Do I flip it back? I don't know what to do with the hat? Do we take it off? And then they lost. And so, I don't know. I don't know. I will say, I saw a,
Starting point is 00:59:29 I saw a Reddit comment on the NBA subreddit this morning that made me laugh so hard, which was the person, the people I feel the saddest for in this moment are the OKC team, because they gave up on a couple of games because they were down by 20, when San Antonio clearly would have let them win. Yep. They don't play well with the lead. It's been the case. all year. We have a sports channel and our slack. I had like a little bit of like a migraine last
Starting point is 00:59:54 night. So I, I fell asleep at a nap way too late just to try to sleep it off. And I woke up post the results of that game. And going through the sports channel slack in reverse was so funny. First thing I saw was what happened. Then I immediately rushed to our sports channel to see the reaction to Nick and what had occurred. And scrolling from the beginning going, uh, it's seeing Nick's excitement of having a ticket, like it being revealed in our channel that Nick had a ticket for game five, and then an hour later,
Starting point is 01:00:26 the tone of the chat turning was so funny. The joy. You were so happy, Nick, in that brief moment, so excited. Rightfully so. Jeff said, Nick, you must be in heaven. And I've seen this play out before
Starting point is 01:00:43 with the Knicks and the Spurs. That's my fault. And I said, Jeff, I just want to stay there. You did. I laughed so hard at that. You said, yeah, and I just want to stay there. And I was like, you got this. And then we were having so much fun and I was poking you a little bit because, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:57 you were losing the lead. But it was still very clear that the Spurs were going to win. It was an insurmountable lead. And no team has ever come. No team in the 76 years of the NBA has ever come back from a 29 point deficit in a finals game. Like to throw that out again. And so the collapse that would have to ensue would have to be legendary. Epic.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Epic is a word for it. And things just got so much more precarious that I had to stop. I just didn't want to kick Nick. You know, I thought so bad that I stopped responding in the thread because, like, what do you say? I think I just gave him a frowny face at some point because I just had nothing else to say. Like, I'm so sorry your team just shit every bed, you know? The worst part about aside from losing, I was watching it with two friends. We were in a Discord call.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And one of them was like perfectly sync with me. The other one was six seconds ahead. Oh, that's when the final play happens. I just hear, I hear silence, and then in the distance, it sounds like this. What? And I was like, well, we lost. You know what's so frustrating, too, is they should, it should be 3-1 San Antonio right now. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Wimby Blue Game 2, we saw what happened last night. Oh, you're saying that Nick should be going to a game in which they could have won the championship? Yes. which is so, and who knows if we would have bought him that ticket if that was the case. Maybe tickets are so expensive, but these are the cheapest tickets of all the finals. And I have a feeling that they're probably only going to get cheaper. And now the New York Knicks are poised to win and the fans are going to burn the city to the ground in celebration for some reason. They're not going to win in San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:02:44 They already won twice in San Antonio, Nick. San Antonio hasn't won in San Antonio. But I dare them to do it a third time. I dare him to do it while I'm there. With his hat. It's impossible. Listen, dude, I want the Spurs to win. I'm not giving up on the idea that they'll come back.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I mean, no team had ever come back from a 29 point deficit, once again, in the history of the entire National Basketball Association. So I know no team has ever come back from being downed. 3-1 in the finals. Maybe the Spurs, have they? And losing both home games? The Cavalier, well, I don't know about the home games, but the Cavaliers lost to the Warriors 3-1.
Starting point is 01:03:24 And then came back. I just wish Gavin could be there with you. Yeah. Oh, that would be sick. That would only make it funnier. Spill drinks on all the Spurs fans. You did say, buy the tickets next to you now. He just keeps going, what is this?
Starting point is 01:03:38 Well, no, I'd be doing my Spurs chance, but from my Spurs. I bet there's a few tickets available that weren't yesterday. Yeah. Anyone want to come? That seems real sad, man. It's really going to be something. Do you think it's less sad than going alone? No, I think it would be unfazed and also Nick would then have to explain why the bad thing was bad to him, which makes it so much funnier. No, it wouldn't have to do, because I would use that as probably my one drunk night of the year, I think.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Oh, guys. Hell yeah. I'd have a good time. Hell yeah. You and everybody else in San Antonio. Yep. Andrew, do you think it's possible you got a migraine because you've recently taken to tournicating your head?
Starting point is 01:04:18 No, I don't think you're going to. Oh, my God. Gavin. Gavin, that's it. No, I don't think. You're the smartest one here. My God. It was like it showed up middle of the day.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Oh, middle of the day. Yeah. It was unrelated. There was a large distance between last sleep and it occurring. Fair enough. My spurs made it, by the way, didn't get relegated. Congratulations, ma'am. Hey, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I don't know what would have happened. I've never seen such a big club get relegated before. But there aren't a lot of Google images for head tourniquet. Less than you'd think. You know, you know what has... That's how Nick feels emotionally. Don't, dude. You know what has, like, a lot of images, though, is when you search kidnapping blindfold,
Starting point is 01:05:10 and then that's, which is essentially the same thing is what Andrew's doing. Oh, it's like bird box. Yeah, it is. It's very, it's very bird box. So congratulations, Andrew. Thank you. Kidnapping yourself to sleep every night.
Starting point is 01:05:23 It's great. Yep. We should, uh, we, I was going to say, we probably need to wrap this one up. But Gavin, do you want to send us out on, on a big, on a big idea here? It's not a big idea, but it's some great news specifically for you, Eric. Oh, okay. Are you aware that they still make it? They still make what?
Starting point is 01:05:39 I put a... No! They still make spitting image? It's a YouTube channel and it's like up to date. They've got new puppets and everything. It's so disgusting. Why are they making this? Stop.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Oh, it's so gross to look at too. Eric loves puppets. It's just, I don't even... It's not even the puppets. It's the gross. Oh, God, I just went to the channel. It is... This is vile.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Is this a Jeff Dunham thing? It looks like the Jeff Dunham thing. This is so gross. I can't believe you ended up, you ended up on this side of it because you typically like weird little creatures and like jank-looking animals and like gammy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 But I like a jank animal. The like grossness, it's this and like garth, what is it, like garbage pale kids? Like that 80s, like, Yeah, that's right. We're grossing you out. Like, that shit sucks.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He loves a gross animal, hates a gross human. Yeah, absolutely. Look at that Olivia Coleman one in the bottom right. That is like absolutely disgusting to look at. The one immediately to the left of Starmer, it looks like, what's his face from Funhouse? We need to go. We need to get out of here. For those who don't know, spitting image was like a TV show in England in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Or maybe 90s. Maybe you go. But yeah, like really nasty looking caricature puppets of political people. Lawrence, that was his name. No, I got you. No, yeah, we got it. Well, thank you for listening to episode 111 of regulation. This was an eventful one.
Starting point is 01:07:27 A lot happened. A lot going on in the world. Pray for Nick. Pray for Nick. Pray for Jeff, I guess. Pray for the people in Austin, associated with this home sale not going through
Starting point is 01:07:41 if it doesn't go through. We'll see you next time. Thank you very much. Love you. Tell a friend. Bye. Bye. Pray for the ceiling rats. Boy, the guy let him go.

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