Regulation Podcast - Regulation Takes // Regulation Supplemental

Episode Date: August 10, 2025

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When you're with Amex Platinum, you get access to exclusive dining experiences and an annual travel credit. So the best tapas in town might be in a new town altogether. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at Amex.ca. Hello and welcome to our newest supplemental concept idea regulation takes. I am hosting this. I can't believe it. I am joined alongside Eric, Gavin, and Nick. I'm excited to hear some

takes. Let me explain the takes format before we get going. We have all prepared takes, which are stances and which we feel passionate about. We will share our takes one at a time. I'm not sure how many will do this is the first time we're doing it. Who knows how long this is going to be? I'll have to figure that out. You'll see, I guess you'll know going into it. You'll see the timer. But we don't know.

So we'll all say our takes. Then after this comes out, I will put out a poll on our Patreon, which is the Regulation Pod. And you can vote on who had the worst take. And whoever has the worst take or takes gets the idiot flag. Till the next episode. Deem the idiot. But it's not a draft.

It's not a draft. No. I'll be honest, I was, I was like 80% sure you were somehow going to call a blindside and we'd be doing fricking ratty-boy, because this sounds like a fake idea. Oh, this is so far from a fake idea. This is like the most popular idea in any show format ever. Oh, yeah, this is a, I could tell it was a real Andrew idea because this is the closest we're going to get to like sports media.

Sure. You know what I mean? Like this is so close. Hot take. take like that kind of thing that it read is true to me all the way well until we do a march madness bracket right true yeah but this is again not a draft the first thing gavin asked when he got here today is this a draft we reassured him no it's not the pool is takes yeah yeah the pool is takes but the pool is but also there's no real pool because it's not a draft um so andrew how

How many takes are, I mean, we'll go one at a time, but how many takes are we going to be giving each? Well, that's the thing. I don't know how long it'll take for us to go through everybody's takes. It'll be interesting to see. So maybe we'll do one each, maybe we'll do two each. We will state our take. And then you can sort of defend or maybe people just agree.

And it's the support of the take. This is a thing I largely wanted to do because I have a take that I think about all the time that I don't know how else to put it. Like, there's, this can't be a draft. This isn't really a podcast subject. So I had to create a show around being able to discuss this take. I have an opinion. I need a show for that.

I have an opinion. We need a vehicle to discuss this opinion. It's an opinion I have not heard often. But how do we determine the order of delivering these takes? Well, you should go first because you built a show around your take. Yeah, I absolutely think you should go first. I think we could also go in Discord order. which is just our names in order here,

which appears to be alphabetical. So maybe we just go that way. And we'll see how it goes. Now, you mentioned a timer. Is there a timer? No, not a timer for the take, but I just don't, maybe somebody's take will take four minutes to do.

Maybe somebody's will take four. Oh, okay. Like, I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to run a time. No, no, no. You don't have to, this isn't like a strict debate format or anything. I don't know. Gavin didn't even know if this was a draft or not.

So I just have, you know, that was my only question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, really have in rebuttal. Yeah. Andrew, why don't you lead us off with your first take? My first take is something I think about all the time. It's a weird thing to think about all the time.

I'll acknowledge that. But it is something I think about quite frequently. My first take is that Taylor Kitch deserves better. Taylor Kitch has one of the worst acting careers in modern times. And I don't think it's his fault at all. I think he's pretty good. I think he's a solid actor. He was on Friday Night Lights,

which is incredibly popular, and he has a run of things that just, like, were terrible, but not terrible because it was his fault. My first example of this is he got to be Gambit and X-Men Origins Wolverine. He was Gambit.

And he was fine as Gambit. But that movie was terrible, and, like, nothing expanded beyond that. it was a weird thing to read about the history of it where they always wanted Channing Tatum but he was always busy and so they booked him because he wasn't available but they gave him a three movie deal

which did not happen there was only a singular cameo because nobody liked X-Men Origins Wolverine and beloved character in a beloved series of films I think this is the most hated one by far he just happened to be in the worst Wolverine

that they could possibly make You created an entire show for that take? I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not done. I mean, establish more. Right. And to be fair, it will still be the same take as he continues to argue this. So the answer to your question is yes.

I'm just solidifying the take. Uh-huh. Right. And so the answer to your question is yes, Gavin. We often talk about 1994, amazing Jim Carrier, one of the best years. Oh, big film. Reniac. Uh-huh.

Three absolute bangers. Taylor Kitch had maybe the worst version of that where he had a 2012, that was John Carter from Mars, battleship, and savages. All three of those, not his fault. John Carter was terrible. It was just like a soulless CG. It just was weird.

There's no heart to it. Nobody came out of John Carter looking good. Battleship, absolute disaster. Just a terrible film. Not his fault. Savages, an Oliver Stone movie that had like all the pieces to be good like you'd understand from the outside

wanting to be in an Oliver Stone movie as a lead. All the acting in that movie is great all around just a really dumb, bad story. Yeah, it has. Savage's has like Benicio del Toro and like Aaron Taylor Johnson and stuff.

Like it has like a bunch of people. Yeah. It is a weird thing where I would argue he was the only one impacted by the failure of savages. A hundred percent. Because John Carter was like this also $300 million Disney movie that was terrible. It just nobody saw it.

It was a huge flop. It was a summer flop for Taylor Kitch. And I feel like that completely broke the wings off of what his career trajectory could be. But he had to fade into the distance. And so he was, he went quiet for a little bit. Off the grid. He went dark. He then came back.

I mean, he had lone survivor. which was like, it was fine. But then he got booked on True Detective season two. True Detective, the biggest show of that year. Everyone's loving it. It's a critical darling. They're running it back for season two. Everyone's so excited.

And then everybody hated season two. It is the worst reviewed season of True Detective with a 61%. Once again, he was totally fine. he was good i would say good performance by taylor kitch just everything he touches is the worst version of that thing but it is in no way his fault he should be in most of the action roles that john krasinski has had in like the last five years like he would be so much better and all these sort of i'm not saying that he's an oscar winning actor and that he he should have been in these epic dramas but like any kind of generic john krasinski

action movie, I think he would have been significantly better at. Oh, I think that he's, the reason his career is what it is is because of Aaron Taylor Johnson. He, that, that role is filled by Aaron Taylor Johnson. If Aaron Taylor Johnson did not exist, this guy's working. This guy's working everything without him. It has been an interesting, he's had to go on like Netflix type series and he's building things back up. But I just think it's, it's such a weird career where everything that he did, like, I understand accepting and being like, yeah, I'm going to be in a fucking Wolverine movie. I'm going to be in this. I'm going to be the lead of a Disney epic for like 400 million, like a huge box office movie. But none of it worked. And none of it was his fault.

And I just think that's incredibly fascinating. The king of good franchise like stick out stinkers. Like he's always in the most dog shit version of the actual product. Absolutely. And I just, I think it's such a fascinating career trajectory. If you gave me an infinite amount of time and 500 million different guesses on what your take was going to be, I still wouldn't have come up with it. No, no, absolutely. See, he created a show, Gavin. He created a show so he can explain this to us. I think everyone is going to have fun takes. It's just, I think about Taylor Kitch's career a lot. Guy I've never heard of in a bunch of movies and shows I've never seen. It deserves better.

You tell me you're not a big friend. Friday Night Lights Head? Never seen it. You weren't into the Texas high school football teen drama? I guess not. I guess it never spoke to me. It was great. I'd highly recommend the show.

There's an actor in the show that feels like he's not an actor and they just made a show around him. And he's wonderful. Highly recommend it just for his performance alone. Not Taylor Kitch, but he runs like a car dealership and he's great. Taylor Kitch also very good in the show. But that is my take. Taylor Kitch deserves so much better than he got.

And I'm happy to see that he's getting a little bit of a resurgence. I think Taylor Kitch is exactly where he probably needs to be. I don't think that there's, I'm not clamoring for, dude, the other guy from the savages to be in movies. Because you didn't get to see him in those roles. That's what I'd argue. I think he could be a dynamic fun action star. And we just never got that. I think that if TV was still around, this guy would be Spike TV hero of whatever show is on Spike TV.

Like, this is a cable actor. That is what this guy reads to me. I mean, that's fair. I mean, there's certainly where he's found his most success. Yeah. But I think he deserves that. He was Gambit. He was Gambit for four minutes.

Four minutes. Minutes of Gambit. I guess I have seen him as Gambit. Yeah. And that's about it. And like, I feel like he's the only person from like this Deadpool Wolverine era that we're in where they're bringing everybody back. He's never going to get brought back. No.

Well, did they bring back the guy who was the blob? No. What about Will I Am? Will I Am wasn't in anything else. No. Should your take be that Will I Am should be in more X-Men movies? No. I didn't think he was that good.

Oh, but Taylor Kills. Kitch was? Yeah, he was fine. He was solid. I think you should edit Taylor Kitch's next reel. Yeah. I think you should reach out and see if Taylor Kitch has any hot takes he wants to give, because I bet you could get him.

See what I can do. And you can help him get on an Australian morning show. Yeah. He's nice. He's promoting our podcast. Yeah, dude. I think he, if it was based on how it worked with Gavin, he'd be promoting Friday night lights the show.

How did it all start? How'd you get into acting? Oh, man. Well, that's my take. Eric, what is your take if we're going in Discord order? Your take was so interesting. I don't find mine to be as interesting, but I feel kind of dumb.

Yeah, no, no, I don't, I definitely don't feel dumb. I definitely feel like, I don't know, we'll see how my takes. Yeah, I'm not sure I did this. right. No. I'm so excited to get to Gavins. I'm a blow through mine. My take is that the take of there are too many podcasts is a hack take from people who would kill to have a podcast. Ooh. You hear it all the time. There are too many podcasts. We should put

tariffs on podcast equipment. It is, it's a, it's a hack take from hack people who it's it's the low hanging fruit it's the easy punching bag do i love how many podcasts there are no but the more podcasts that come out the more listening hours are consumed monthly month on month since podcasts have become a large source of entertainment i don't think there are too many podcasts i don't think it should discourage anyone from starting a podcast. I think anyone with some ideas and everything can do this. I think that it's a lot easier to have the take online of there are too many podcasts than there are to try it yourself and see if you're successful. That's where that take comes from. And if you were to give those

people microphones, they couldn't fucking wait to make three episodes and abandon it. That is the true way of podcasts is that. I think just because they are so popular and trending, in such a big way. It's just an easy thing to say, but nobody really truly believes it by and large. That's my take, yeah. How many podcasts do you work on? I have right now.

Well, good morning, Gus is actually coming out right now. So there's one, 100% E, and there's this one. We also have creating character, which you can check out. I didn't say promote them all. I'm just looking for a number here. Yeah, we can say four. I think four, four feels good. Yeah.

Interesting. I agree with the take only because, like, I, I think it's a weird situation in which, sure, there are too many podcasts, but, like, who cares? Like, why is that problem? Yeah, and there's also too much TV and too much radio. It's on all the time. Everything's on all the time. Yes, I think that the, there's too many podcast thing is just an easy thing to, like, tweet out

and be like, that's right. Hmm, I'm above this. And it's like, okay. I will say there are a lot of the same guy. making the same podcast there are there are there's also a lot of youtube channels and i think having the take in 2025 that there's too many youtube channels is the same thing as there are too many podcasts but that'll be in the next few years when the next sort of wave of whatever entertainment uh comes out i don't think it's necessarily so groundbreaking or really correct that there are too many

podcasts. I think that shouldn't discourage anyone from picking up a mic and giving it a try. That doesn't mean you're absolved from consequences of things. It just means that I don't think that there are too many. I think there's a lot more stories to be told out there that people could be doing or saying. I think three guys who just went to a bar and coming home and then they don't have anything to say, but then get on a mic, that's what people think a podcast is, but that's not necessarily what you get from a lot of this stuff. So that's my take there are not actually too many podcasts i think it's also a thing of like what you expect to get out of the podcast that you're making yeah like if you're let's say maybe there's a philosophical thing of

like i'm going to get into podcasting and make a ton of money that is not an easy or like a realistic thing to expect uh there are so many podcasts like just the i mean that is like a from a budgetary or like a marketing standpoint of ads and all that like sure but if you're just making a podcast because you want to do it and you think it would be fun like it seems absurd to be like no no no too many you can't do it not allowed that's how I feel about it that's my take I do respect the person that's making it also having that take though because I feel that way all of the time of like making your show and then being like why the fuck am I doing this I got nothing of interest to say I don't this more qualified people should be making these things

it is wild that I can just do this but yeah but anyone can and I think that I think that's what's cool about it is that anyone can. Oh, totally, absolutely. It is very, it is very like 2009 YouTube. Yes. To go out there and just do it. Because without podcasts, how would we know about Jack's exotic bird? That's such a good point.

The world would know. You all would just have to hoard that knowledge. Yeah, yeah, we would have to, just like the 20 people at that party would know about Jack's exotic bird and not so, so, so many more. And I need as many people as possible to know. about jack's exotic bird and that's the magic of podcast it really is i'm so excited for when we record our next episode i watched a movie and it opened up a whole new thing of lord for me

that i'm very excited to share oh it's fun it's fun it's sort of a joy of podcasting is you will do something for yourself and then it will create an opportunity to discuss something in a way you never anticipated yeah yeah there you go what a run this champ is picking up speed But they found a lane. Phenomenal launch into the air! Absolutely incredible Air Transat! Fly the seven-time world's best leisure airline champions, Air Transat. This episode is brought to you by Peloton.

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Interesting. Very interesting. But you've got to the trouble of putting it in your anus. Uh-huh. It should just be anything goes in the atus. Interesting. Okay, so if I'm bringing in a bunch of drugs and they catch me, let's say, but it's in my anus, I'm no longer going to be penalized for attempting to smuggle drugs.

Yeah, I mean, you put it in your own anus. You went through the trouble of that. They're yours. Is there a consideration, though, that putting something in an anus is maybe too easy to it be an immunity spot? it's sort of like a bag I mean you got a lot of runway there you can loob it up like it depends on I guess I guess what I'll say to that

is that's big talk from someone who's not doing it I guess I don't know I just I feel like here's the thing and I this is going in a direction that I didn't anticipate going I've had some pretty massive shits which give me a concept of what's possible in there I've never, I'm not putting things in, I'm pushing stuff out.

I just don't agree, I just don't agree. And I feel like, no, no, I feel like it doesn't deserve complete immunity. You feel like you, you would have an advantage because you could smuggle a much bigger item than me? I don't think it's like, I'm not bragging or anything. I'm not, I'm not saying I have an abnormal, like, anus stretchability. I'm not like fantastic four, uh, annally. Uh, but I do think that it might be. I don't know. It feels like it could be too...

I don't know. It's an interesting take. What were you thinking of smuggling? Uh, I just... There's a lot of people getting their anuses looked at by other people, isn't it? Sure. Getting stuff taken from their own anus. I just feel like that should be a safe space for people. You can't, you can't smuggle a lot.

It's not like you could smuggle a boatload of heroin. Just enough for you. I think you'd be surprised how much hair. Yeah, I don't know how much heroin. I think it would be a lot. I think it would be like a lot more than you think it would be in that case. Let's say then that it's only for the stuff that went up. It's not for the stuff you swallowed.

What? I didn't even think about what you're saying, but like I assume that was a rule. I assume it has to be the entry point of anal as opposed to swallowing. Yeah, because you can swallow a lot more than you can put up. At that point, your take would just be anything inside of you as fair game. What are you? I'm confused. Confused about what could be swallowed that you would smuggle.

Heroin. Well, no, because I think your stomach would definitely break that down and you would die. Yeah, you don't swallow the raw heroin. You would put it in a Johnny, wouldn't you? Right, but even still, you don't think, like, the risk of swallow. I just don't think it would pass through you. That was a movie thing. Of course it would.

We're like, I think there was a thing where like, I've definitely seen a thing where someone swallowed a bunch of heroin and one of the bags burst. That, yeah, I mean, it's talking about is that. And like, I just feel like, the. The risk of swallowing it and it bursting his way is so much higher than just sticking it up. Because I agree. I think if you swallow it, no fair game. But if you put it up, fair game.

I wouldn't be using it for drugs, though. I'd be using it just to avoid, like, importing something. Like what? Like what? Yeah. I don't know. Like it was like a small but high value item. I don't know, man.

Like if I had a fancy ring or something, I'd put it in my ass. And then I wouldn't have. Yeah, like, say I went to a place. where the ring was cheaper to buy I'd buy it pop it in my ass and travel back with it couldn't you just wear it

that's a bad example are you just are you just trying about what are you talking about Christopher Walken did it yeah Christopher Walken did do it you put a watch in his ass yeah in Pulp Fiction

oh the whole monologue yeah what about this what if So let's say you smuggle something legally through your ass, then you pop it out of your ass and commit a crime with it, is that crime also legal or is... No, no, no. It's not like a golden bullet.

It's not a golden bullet situation. It's just, you know, what made me think of it was, you know, in Left for Dead, you've got like the safe houses where zombies just can't affect you. It's your moment to chill. It's your safe space. You're guaranteed that nothing bad's going to happen until you open the door. I just want a real life safe space. and what better space, than my natural God-given pocket.

But I keep wondering, like, what do you, like, what do you mean about having stuff up there? Like, what is your example of stuff? Lump of gold. Okay. But why is it? But why do you have to do that, I guess is my question. Like, I don't know.

I just wanted a place that no one would ever look. But they do look. Yeah, that's my point. They shouldn't. Do they have to manually look still? I feel like we should be at a point with technology that they could just tell if you have something in your ass or not. I like the idea of getting put in the in the X-ray and they can see the watch in there.

They're like, oh, you little rascal, you put it in your ass. Go on. Get out of here, you. Yep. Yeah. With their watch. Yep. Now, okay, let's just expand on this for you personally.

Yeah. Let's say that this was a socially acceptable thing. What do you think you would just carry in it whenever you went out? Would it be something you regularly used? Um, I'm trying to think Nothing, I've never like I've just always been scared of moving stuff Between countries that I own

Because I'm like, oh, they're gonna like think I've bought that And I'm illegally importing it And I just want the security of my ass But I can't, or I also couldn't fit Like an Xbox in my ass and stuff Yeah, that would be a problem That would have to be several flights And piece by piece

I like this take because it's truly insane And I keep asking for examples And I don't feel like I'm getting any So I'm really on board for this. I'll be honest, I can't think of a single item that I would actually use this on. I just think people who put stuff up their ass to go through, to go through passport checks and stuff, they've gone through a lot. They've got a lot of effort involved. It just, it feels like the worst surprise you could have. Yeah. Like if we went out on a picnic and I was like, oh man,

I forgot, I forgot to bring dessert. And you're like, don't worry, I got some cookies right here. Just give me a second. Why would he do that with cookies? I was just thinking like a bag of cookies, like a mini bag? Right, right. Why would he do that with cookies? Why is he storing anything in his anus? Because it seems like it's illegal for getting this from country to country.

He started arguing. You're talking about using it, but he's saying a safe place where people won't go. That makes sense for maybe potentially illegal activities. What you're saying is we go on a picnic and he pulls Oreos out. He did mention that he just wants to use his God-given pouch or whatever. I don't know what the wording was, but I don't know what he said, but it was something about he wanted to use his anal pouch. So at the point in which he just wants to use it, then I think you have to, like, it becomes

a day-to-day thing for him. Does it? I think so. I think so. Like it becomes a day-to-day thing to you? No, I don't need to use it every day. I'd hardly ever use it. This feels like a really weird thing to fight for then, if it's something.

you don't want it really. Okay, okay. What about this? What about this, right? Okay. Sometimes I have trouble sleeping. Uh-huh. Get some of those melatonin gummies, right?

Okay. Okay. But I don't think you're allowed to bring those to England. So whenever I come to England, I'm all like insomnia and stuff. If I just pulled a week's worth of gummies out of my ass, fine. I also don't know if they're checking for those. I would have no idea if they'd actually confiscate that. Now, that's the world I want to live in.

is that you're smuggling things anally that you don't have to, but just assume aren't allowed. I like that reality, a lot. Can I bring melatonin from the U.S. to the U.K.? Not finding a clear answer. First comment, it's not illegal to bring in. It's just illegal for someone to sell to you

in the U.K. without a prescription. Second comment, yes, you can bring it. Third comment, you can order melatonin over the Internet into the U.S. I bring a tub home every time I go The Gavin Now imagine how embarrassing it is

If he's huddled over a toilet While reading this Trying to get his maltoted Wow Here's the thing I think I like your take I don't think I like any of your uses For the take

I think that's the thing I like the idea of my take But Not only do I not know What I put in my ass I've never experienced Putting anything in my ass Apart from the occasional woman's finger

Sure you've never had like a what's the word I'm looking for they they put the tube in your ass a medical procedure colonoscopy colonoscopy thank you you never had one of those or like an enema

no no just a finger just a just a surprising finger I'm gonna be thinking about your take all day again It's all I'm going to be thinking about for the rest of this day.

Look, I told you I thought I've done this wrong. So I don't know what you did it right. But you didn't. I don't think you did it wrong. No, I don't think you did it wrong. I really don't think you did it wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think I've ever heard Nick so confused in the background. It's very exciting. I'm just, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled about this. So great. But that's Gavin's take. That's pretty exciting. Nick, we have your.

very first take. I feel... Well, what an act to follow. I feel that I'm going to take some heat for this. In fact, I know I'm going to take heat for this because I believe I am very much in the minority on this.

I would like to say that the inverted control scheme is the correct control scheme. You're in a weird. I think we talked about this. You're nuts. Like, I think Gavin, like, made a comment about something we play.

played recently and saw that you did like inverted controls and thought you were crazy. So does that mean, Nick, that when you get in a vehicle, like a plane in a video game, or a banshee or something, are you now not inverted or you inverted on both? Inverted on both? It makes no sense. What do you mean? I mean, think about how your head moves. Yeah, I move my head.

It's moved by my neck up and down. It's not flown like a plane. No one's steering my head with a stick through the back of my head. Tilt your head to look up. You're tilting your head backward, which is the way that you're doing it on the controller. Yeah, but there's no stick coming out the back of my head. No one's got their thumb.

Okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. Gavin, let's look at it from your perspective then. Let's talk about operating a camera. When you tilt to look up, which way do you pull the camera? If I tilt to look up, I push down on the stick because it's a stick coming out of the back. You pull it back. But if the camera was on my head...

You would look up. You would still tilting your head back. I would look up to look up. You would look up to look up. You're tilting back to look up. You're tilting forward to look down. You don't look back or forwards. You look up and down.

So you invert up and down. Do you invert left and right? No, God, no. That's wrong. Right, but you're veering your head to the right. I don't understand what the fuck you're saying then. Okay. So, Nick, I've got a camera, right?

I want the camera to look to the right. to the right. I take the stick coming off the back of the camera and I move it in which direction? I turn the camera right. You turn the camera right by doing what? By turning it right? Yeah, by pushing the stick to the left, huh? If you invert your up and down, you should be inverting your left and right. That's absolutely that. Now that's a take right there. That is a take. I will say this. Tusha. But also, now I'm just going to go back to the flying one. Uh, you go left, you, you turn lefty, you go lefty, you turn righty, you go righty, you pull back to go up, you go, uh, or push forward, go down. Uh, or push forward, go down. So, I'm going to stick with the flight controls. Inverted is correct, but only on the y-axis. What, how did you become inverted? Uh, Halo. It's, it's literally thanks to Halo. Yeah, but Halo isn't by default inverted. It's not, but I remember, no, but listen, but listen, but listen, they do.

do that whole tutorial bit at the beginning where the chief comes out of cryosleep and they have you do the control thing like look left look right look up look down and then I remember being like well try this up and down and I in the moment I was like I don't feel anything different so I just went with whatever the second

was and ever since then inverted is the way to be so why are you blaming Halo then? Did you only because it gave me the option like I'm trying to understand like I get like Halo plane that way but then you go to a different game

and then you have to go into the settings and change it. Yeah, well, I mean, at that point, it was so ingrained because I played a lot of Halo that it was just, everything else made me feel sick and slow. Did you not play like a first person shooter

prior to Halo? There weren't a ton though. Oh, there are so many, like Doom? On a controller? Quake? On a controller? No. I mean, but GoldenEye was...

I think GoldenEye was inverted. I mean, you didn't look up or down unless you stopped. Yeah, unless you were aiming. I guess, yeah. Right. So you looked up and down. No, I mean, unless you were going

through the crosshairs, most of the time you can just shoot in that. Right, so you would look up and down. I would not look up and down that much in golden. I would never look up and down. Me neither. I'm not saying that I did it. I'm saying that it was there and you could do it.

I mean, yeah, now. What does that mean? What do you mean? So is your take that every game should be inverted by default? Yeah, and I think that people should give it a shot because it is better. It's more comfortable. Why would everyone...

The word inverted basically just means like backwards or flipped. It's like it's not the default. It says it... There's no verted. There's normal... Ferdin.

Hey, you guys playing this? Inverted or verded? Oh, these controls are verded. As someone who plays everything verted and then I swap controllers as someone who does it, I'm just like, all it does for you, Nick,

surely is cause arguments from verted people. Well, yes It does And that's why I I decided to be brave And tell my story About how he's so brave

My life Well let me ask you I am All these verts coming for you Yeah Are you gonna pass down This hindrance to your child That's exactly what I wanted to know

Interesting question Is he gonna get a choice in this Or you just gonna start Feeding them inverted controls Without him knowing You know I wouldn't have to switch control scheme when we handed the controller off.

Yeah, he's going to learn inverted. He's flying right. Yeah, wait, that sounded wrong. He's flying true. But right, but right is left or right is right. No, Y axis. This take is, I can't wait for the verts to come after you. I thought, I thought Gavin's steak was going to get slammed.

I definitely think Nick's take is going to get slammed. Well, Gavin emboldened me to be wrong. Yeah, I know. I played GTA with both of you. I've seen how it works. We should film a let's play at some point where Nick has to play Verde and the rest of us all have to do inverted.

That is such a good idea. I mean, I don't want to do it, but that's great. No, it'd be terrible, but I think it would be easier for the Verid's to use inverted because we fly planes inverted in games. Oh, that's an interesting idea. But you don't fly shit. It's a very interesting take, yeah.

Backwards. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Or normal. Very curious. Well, Nick, great. take. I think we could do one more take each.

I think one more take each or do you think we wrap up at like... No, no, we got to do one more take each. I'm so curious to see what else Gavin has to say. That's fair. Do you have another take, Gavin, or do you only have one take? Oh, I wrote like 10. I thought this is going to be. Oh, that's right. Then let's go back around the horn. Let's start with Andrew.

And then let's go back around the horn. My sick take, we get one real animal movie a year. I know making movies with real animals isn't ethical. So we use CG animals now almost all the time, but it just doesn't

hit the same. It's not as fun. It's not as entertaining. I think we should be allowed morally to have one film a year that is real animals in all of the roles. And it's like the big real animal movie of the summer or year. That is my take.

I really have almost truly no opinion on this. Who's the board that decides, oh, this is the movie that gets the real animal? Oh, that's, I, you know, I think maybe it rotates by major studio. Each year, a major studio has the, uh, I don't know if you want to say right or like they've been penalized with making a fully real animal movie. And it just rotates. But there's only one.

And there's a lot of expectation on that movie delivering because of that. Because I'm sick of the CG. I saw a trailer for Cats vs. Dogs 3 recently, which I didn't know is a thing they made a third of. and they're all CG and it looks like shit. That's just now they look like shit. What do you mean? Surely eventually, 20 years from now, you won't be able to tell. I don't think that's true.

I think it'll always be able to tell. He doesn't want to wait. He doesn't want to wait the 20 years though. I don't want to wait. He wants a real cat and a real dog doing something. And I also, yeah, I want to know that it's a real dog playing football. I want a real dog running out there getting that ball. Dude, if the end of Homeward Bound was a CG dogs and a cat walking back home, it would not be as impactful.

So maybe I agree with this. Oh. I think it just doesn't hit the same. Do you want the animal to be doing its own stunts as well? Or are you okay with a CG double? No. I want it doing the stunts. All right.

Well, this might be where we... This is where it becomes unethical. Like, say a dog, a dog has to escape a burning building with a zip line. Mm-hmm. How are you doing that? I don't know. I'm not a fucking stunt coordinator. How does John Cruz stand on an airplane way?

There are people that are professionals that figure out how to film it. Fucking not what, Gavin. You're asking me, how do I set up a safe stunt? I don't do that, but there's an industry of people that that's their job.

I will trust them. Gavin, take that and show it up, Gaines. He doesn't give a fuck about how it's done. He just wants to watch the end result. Here's the thing. I wanted to be done safely.

How is it done safely? I don't fucking know. That's not my job. I don't live in that world But they're professionals that do And I trust that they will figure it out Oh my god That took a turn

I just want a real animal movie Because it's they all suck now Just watch planet earth They're not like doing goofy stuff You're not gonna see bingo on trial On planet earth Bingo on trial Remember the bingo movie

Something we should watch He's on the stand Now, are you okay with the fact that the animal's probably going to get uncomfortable and hurt while it's filming? That's the thing. That's why it's morally unethical and why we stop doing this as a culture. But I think we can be allowed one per year. Did we stop doing it? There's still animals in films. Not really, like not in the way it used to be.

He wants full animal film. Like he doesn't want like, here's a section about animal. He wants like, full on. But not like these people are riding a horse sort of thing. Right. Right. If the movie was about the horse all the way, then absolutely. I want MVP 4 with a real monkey.

That's all I want. I don't feel like it's a huge ask. But I understand it's an ethical. When I emailed that zoo where Louis from MVP is currently residing, they were very clear that they do not support the MVP movies or animals in film in general. I get it. I support it. just we could do one

we can do one per year and make sure it's really safe that everything's all good we can do one and that's my take one real animal movie per year should be allowed that's uh well there you go did you lock the front door

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but too much of a good thing has become sort of what this thing is I think my hot take is not everything needs lore at one point in movies a movie would just be a movie and we didn't have to know everything about every character

we didn't have to have backstories about every single thing not everything was a big franchise sometimes a movie was just a movie sometimes a TV show is just a TV show and sometimes we didn't need the alternate reality game that nobody really cared about to put all these pieces together to solve a mystery that nobody wants

for a show that's canceled in season two. But how would characters, how would a movie exist without law? No, no, no. I'm not talking about the, what you're seeing on screen. I'm talking about what happens when everyone extrapolates every little detail

in becoming the most lore-focused thing where I guess my example is like, how come the timeline for Donkey Kong doesn't make sense? We don't need a timeline for Donkey Kong. He's Donkey Kong. He is the monkey and he wants the banana. So it's more of like a consumer thing then.

It's like the fan is extraordinary great. Yes. Okay. Because I don't think Nintendo are that strict with their law. Like look at Zelda. Yes. And everyone is pit. Like not everyone, but like weird nerds are pissed about, well, where does this fit in the timeline?

Who gives a shit? So it does not matter. Basically, if someone's there asking, like, oh, what order are the Zelda games in? Or like, is this the same link from this game as it is? And your answer is, shut up. Shut up. Okay.

Shut up. It does not matter. Play the game. I hope you enjoy the game. If there's stuff there and people want to, if the creator is like, hey, I developed it with this stuff in mind or whatever, great, whatever.

When people start going like, well, here's how it fits in with the Star Wars. Like, Star Wars is, I guess, like the big example. Because when I was a kid, it was all of the books and everything of like the Star Wars extended universe and like you read these books and all this stuff and then they just went no that's real yeah none of that's canon actually and so it was like but I read all these books and I really enjoyed them and they go yeah none of that fucking means anything here so fuck you and it was like oh okay sick so uh I guess it doesn't matter

and that's really what was like my turning point on not everything that you like has to become the biggest volume encyclopedia it can just be a thing you enjoy for a little while and then you can put it away and move on and you don't have to know what the timeline for donkey Kong is it can just be donkey Kong and that's fine like people trying to figure out the Mario brothers timeline is like the craziest thing in the world to me Mario brothers you go right you just go right and now you can go forward and backward that you pull back on the stick maybe you go forward I don't know Knicks controls are working but I just think the

lore focus of stuff is really really frustrating to me and I'm sick of it I'm done with it Now to be clear you're not opposed to all lore You just don't think everything needs it Yes and I don't think that fans need to

Deep dive on every detail of everything Like Donkey Kong timelines That is I I love love sometimes Stupidity of lore Is sometimes my favorite thing about the thing Like I love I truly love and Fasted Furious

how fucked up that lore is because they tried to make something make sense and then they decided it didn't matter anyway after doing all of the work to explain it where they had a very popular character die in Tokyo drift which was the third film and then in like movie

five they're like fuck we want to bring him back but he's dead how do we do that okay we'll set five six and seven before three we'll do that like well this timeline is all fuck now because we want to explain how can be around and then they do all that and then we get to the point of his death and then

they just bring him back anyway in the most recent installment and it was like well why did you didn't need to do any of that work like none of it actually mattered he was just coming back regardless of what you did yeah not of it matters but i love that they tried so hard to explain it in a way maybe the only attempt to like logically explain anything in any of those movies and it's just crazy that they did it so I love, personally, lore, I don't, the fan feedback around it can definitely be annoying at times. Yes.

I think I like it because, that's frustrating. Because I grew up in a time where video games didn't look anything like the cover and you'd have like pixels for like an enemy. And I would always be like, oh, I'm going to read the booklet and see what this enemy actually looks like. And I want to learn about it and why it's doing what it's doing. Mm-hmm. So that's interesting.

And, and, and when. I was younger, I felt the same way, because we didn't have it. It was a thing that I was desperate for. I wanted more lore and every, what if all these things connected? And now everything's the franchise, everything connects. Nothing can be just on its own. Everything has to be, well, how does this make sense with the lore? And it's like, this sucks.

I just, I don't want it to go back to the amount that it was before where it was zero, but it cannot continue to be the amount where that it is, which is 100. It's too much. It's too much lore for every single thing. Yeah, I don't... Fair play. I think that's fair. As long as we're okay with lore existing, I'm with you.

Oh, yeah. I'm fine with an existing. I'm not fine with people being mad about Donkey Kong timeline. I'm never going to let that go. Donkey Kong timeline is like the craziest thing in the world to me. You care about when the Donkey Kong games take place. Donkey Kong? The Donkey Kong, God damn.

It makes me nuts. That's crazy. So what is that law? Is Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong or something? Right, but that's... That's what people posited, like, oh, yeah, the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong. But then this new game is coming out and Cranky Kong's in it. And people are like, how can there be Kid Pauline?

But Cranky Kong, like, is people getting mad about like that stuff? And you just go, I don't know, who, I don't know, man, who cares? I don't know. Is anyone wondering where Lanky Kong is these days? I don't think anybody wants. I don't think anybody wants that he's got, he has no style. He has no grace. Is Lanky Kong the Taylor Kitch of the Dong the Kong universe?

None of it is his fault. Yeah, donkey is Aaron Taylor Johnson. That's my take. Thank you very much. Gavin, so excited. Go for it. I can't wait. Every time the CEO of a major global corporation takes a bonus,

he first has to stand in front of each employee one by one and tell them what his bonus is about to be, and tell them how long it would take that employee to earn the same amount of money on their current salary. Just to see if after going through all that, he still wants to take the bonus. I love it.

I think it can't be over a Zoom call or anything. It has to be in the same room, direct face to face. So he'll be like, oh, hi, Edwin Jenkins, okay? My bonus this year is 25 months. million dollars and at your current salary would take you 175 years to earn. Not good to see you. Yeah. And just to see if being overloaded with that would cause any kind of guilt.

I don't think it would, unfortunately. I think a lot of the people in these positions are kind of psychotic. Are just void of emotion. I really like this idea. I would almost like to see a scenario in which they, have to pitch why they deserve their bonus, and then it's Squid Game style where every employee has the vote by hitting a yes or no button, whether they receive it or not. Mm-hmm.

I like that. So what if it's like a mixed vote? Whatever's the majority wins. Oh, well, no one, yeah, they would never get a bonus. Yeah. Well, that's why you have to state your case really well. Yeah. I just think there's, could you imagine any corporation on the planet that we had?

I think they wouldn't even get 10%, let alone 100%. Right. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's totally fine. Yeah, make a stronger case. If you're really that good and that much of a leader, you can make your case to these people that you deserve more. I could imagine a CEO walking out being like, listen, y'all,

I know I'm not going to get my bonus this year, so I just want to take this time to talk about the fact that we are not smuggling enough things anal. Let's get into this. This could be the future. I like the steak just because I want to see a CEO have to do that. I wonder if how many CEOs at the end of that experience would actually think twice about it or whether they just be like, and that's done with for another year? I think it's that.

Do you think what? I think so too. What part of you is going to? And David Zasloff changed his mind. I'm also so interested to see what his compelling case is about why he deserves the bonus. It changes mine. They're splintering now. It's just like, oh, man, I would love to still be an employee for that meeting.

That would be phenomenal. Think about how many subsidiaries some of these companies have. They would have to come to our company, sit down with us, and meet with Drew Sapplin and every other person to make the case about, all right, and here's how long you'd have to work. It would almost, because here's what's going to happen eventually on these big companies, potentially the employee will be like asking the CEO like well what have you actually done this year like what's the kind of work you've done and he'll just be like mainly standing in front of all my employees telling them what my bonus is going to because it would take so

freaking long yep I had the courage to rename the thing what it was originally called because I just I have that vision you're welcome oh man that's a good take I like that That's a fantastic take. I like that a lot. Yep. Sweet. Okay. Nick,

round us out. What is your take? I keep getting to follow Gavin on some pretty big crucial takes. And then I get to dive bomb a little bit. So this one, I think a lot of people try to say that you should never put ketchup on a hot dog, right? Sure. Like that's a thing that I don't know if you grew up with it, but all the people I knew were like, You should never put ketchup on a hot dog.

Yeah. No problem with ketchup, like, on a hot dog with something else. My... You mean ketchup, right? You're something you're saying ketchup, but you mean ketchup. Katsup? Katsup? Yeah, ketchup.

Whatever. Thank you, Gavin. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Gavin. Okay. I also say helicopter, helicopter most of the time. Okay. I never know.

Anyway. Me neither. Now I will. Oh, sweet. Glad to hear it. If you push forward on a helicopter, which direction does it? ago. Well, is it attached to a neck or not?

It depends. Are the controls inverted or not? All right, go ahead. Damn it. Are they verted? My argument is that ketchup should never be alone on a hot dog. Oh.

Cachup has no place being the sole condiment on a hot dog because it's too sweet and takes away from the rest of the dog itself. If it's ketchup and must You've got that nice bit of, you know, comparison, more the acidity of the mustard going with the ketchup sweetness. And that complements the dog pretty well, right?

With a relish, it's pretty good. With onion, it's cutting through a little bit. Even if you had, like, chili. So my argument is ketchup, alone on a hot dog, gross, with other stuff? Good. I wonder if you're going to lose this poll just because of the catch-up thing. Yeah. In the same way that people get so upset when people call Mario Mario.

because of just, that's where they, that's how they pronounce that there. I'm so fascinated to see the catch-up reaction. I also feel like never before have you said catch-up so much like catch. I felt like even after calling it out, you went even harder on it somehow. Like some of them, you were just saying catch. Catch-up. Kats-up? Is it ketchup?

It's ketchup? Okay. Katz-up. Okay, so in the event of no condiment at all, or just plain hot dog, it's plain hot dog for you? Is that the, you're saying? In the event of no condiment at all or plain hot dog. So if you're going to get a hot dog and the only thing they have is ketchup, that means you're just going to have that plain dog. Yeah.

Okay. I'll take a dry dog over a ketchup dog. Would you allow some solo mustard though? Yeah, that's totally acceptable. Mustard is a very complimentary flavor to the hot dog. How do you feel about ketchup generally? I love it. It's good on fries.

It works well, you know, with a burger, ketchup mustard, good stuff. Huh. But on its own, on a dog, just a weird flavor profile. Don't like it. Shouldn't allow it. Wow. I've never, wow. And you think it's so bad that people shouldn't be allowed to do it?

Just generally? Should just be outlawed? Should be a band combination? Well, I hadn't thought about it that way until you mentioned it. Yeah. Fuck them. I'm a ketchup only dog guy, so I'm going to have to completely change. Yeah, absolutely I am.

So sorry to hear that. Mustard guy. Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to change how I do it. I think it's so inoffensive. And I think the benefits of ketchup compared with a plain dog, like absolutely astronomical. I would always go for the ketchup over nothing. And I'm not even a big ketchup guy.

Hey, Nick. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to go with you. Why not? Yeah. Sure, you don't believe that. No, absolutely. No, I don't.

But I got it. Somebody's got to be on the side here. No, they don't. I don't want non-believers on my team. Yeah, I don't want a non-believers. He doesn't want your charity support. Someone's got to help this guy. He's hanging by a thread here.

Nope. He's telling people they're not allowed to. Look, Archie will learn both things. No catch up on dog alone. Oh, is this something that he does right now? No, he doesn't fucking eat condiments. That little. What are you about to say?

That little non-sauce monkey. He is the opposite of that character. The sauce guy, banning sauces. That's crazy. But I think that it's in lieu of, it's not just banning the sauce, it's in lieu of like you need more sauces. I can't just be the single sauce.

I think a hot dog might be the most in need of condiment food that exists. Yeah, I don't disagree. Like I would have a dry shit. So he's telling you put a bunch of condiments on that sucker. Yeah, together. There's a certain point where when I'm putting

condiments on a dog where I feel like, the effort is more than what it's worth. I don't want to have to open three different bottles for my hot duck. I hear that. It's too much. If you had one bottle with three nozzles and it was just a singular squeeze for all the condiments.

Somebody get uniform on the phone. The relish hole would have to be quite big. Didn't they do that with like a peanut butter and jelly back in the day? I mean, you could get little jars of the same shit. Yes. Like all that goob, gross looking goob shit. That is what it was called.

It was called Uber. It was like striped. Yeah, it looked disgusting. Yeah, I saw that in stores the first time it came to America. I was like, oh, what the hell is wrong with this place? What have they done? Is it illegal to have it in England, or is it just sort of frowned upon so you have to put it in your ass to get it there? British customs looking for, looking for Goober and minds in my ass.

They can't do anything about it. We know he has Goober. And we know exactly what it's at. off the chart on this. This goddamn goober. Doing a 10-hour flight with an assload of goober would be an absolute nightmare.

You hear the jar crack? Oh, no. Oh, man. Oh, that'd be terrible. Oh, man. What a bunch of interesting takes. Really, really, really interesting takes. I mean, this show is created

so that way Taylor Kitch could have something to do, but it really took us down some rabbit holes. Very, very interesting. I'm so excited to see how the audience feels about these takes. I'm interested in an audience opinion on the poll. I'm interested in the audience takes. I'm interested in if they want us to do another round of takes, Jeff's takes included.

Oh, I'm sure Jeff would have great tanks. Yeah. I mean, it's not going to be inverted versus verded, but it will be something, so I'm very curious. You don't know that. Maybe he's a secret inverter. A secret inverter? He's not.

You know, it's crazy. I feel like my... Gavin, you don't know. My first take was so wild and useless, yet somehow, I still agree with it more than both of Nick's picks. Well,

incredible. What's it like to be wrong? I'm wrong. We'll see. Maybe he's right. Maybe the audience will. No confidence in asking Gavin, like, how does it feel?

I don't know, just, you know. Anyway, vote in the poll. Was that the end of their sentence? Oh, my God. Vote in the poll. Make sure to check out our Patreon at the Regulation Pod, Regulatria.com. I can't wait to see what happens.

So they're voting for, they're voting for the worst take. Is that what it is? They're voting for the worst take to see who will have to hang the idiot flag on themselves. Pretty exciting. Well, that's good stuff.

Pretty cool. Well, thanks guys. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to Regulation Takes. Let us know your takes in the comment. Maybe that helps. And we'll see you next time. Bye.

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