Regulation Podcast - Relax, This is a Robbery // Tommy Things [109]

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about put em up, bank, relaxation robbery, tub episode, what the mouth do, over under vs The Generals, Tina, hygiene, Howard Stern, Achievement Hunter, out in the grapes, ...electric bike, Ultimate Chicken Horse Update, Tommy, Clifford, Equalizer, Interstellar, pinball, Rugrats hate, Doug, Home Movies, F**kface Off, Stanley Cup, ice rink, freezer section, thermal cat, and eyes closed vs eyes open. Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Regulation Podcast. This is episode 109. I am the Candy Man with me as always, Lil Skeddy, Babyface, Trigger Man and Dillipop. Take it away. Trigger Man. Bang, bang. Don't rob my dairy queen.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Put him up. It's a blizzard in here. I think if I did try and rob somewhere, I would accidentally say something like put him up. Put him up. Why would that be an accident? You would say put them up? Yeah, it's just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:35 a classic thing said in movies, but does anyone ever say put them up? I don't think you have the guts to say put them up. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I truly believe that you would not, I don't think there's a shot that you would say put them up. You want to go?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Put them up. You can try. I just don't think, like, I think you were going to go rob a place. I think you would be so scared. You'd be shitting like crazy and then there's no way.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Yeah, I'd be one of those people who like fumbles the gun over the counter and then I would just shit. And then I'd be trying to quickly like clean up my shit because it might be DNA in turns and I'm like, oh. And then you would slip in your own shit.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah. No one knows you're robbing the bank. You just go in and shit on the floor. Like a week later they would find. the gun that I accidentally threw, I don't even know it. Somehow the cops would come in and arrest a bigger criminal and you'd get a job out of it.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I'm excited for Eric to get robbed by somebody who says put him up and him thinking it's a bit. Put him up. No, dude, seriously, put them up. I'm trying to rob you here. There's a real difference between put them up and put them up. Put them up. is really weird.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Hey, put them up. That's strange. Put them. What? They'd be like, where's the apostrophe? Put them up. It's always hands, right?
Starting point is 00:02:11 Put them up. It's always the request. Yeah, that's what I want to see up, ideally. Yeah. What else could you put up in that situation? Well, if you're sitting, you can put your feet up.
Starting point is 00:02:21 People put their feet up. Hey, relax. Relax. This is robbery. Everybody recline. This is a robbery. I think if I was a robber, I would want feet and hands up. I want everything.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Maybe you should rob like a lazy boy store then, and then everyone could have their own relaxation zone. They might not mind that even. And then if someone tried to jump you, you would hear the rustlet and tusslet of them trying to get out of the lazy boy to jump you. Oh. Oh. Well, I'm just, I'm thinking about like a recliner that,
Starting point is 00:02:56 that like you pull the thing back and maybe it like shoots out something. Like a stun gun chair. Like if someone happens to rob this recliner store, we've got one that has like a missile in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there's a, like that's the protection of the recliner store. Like you kick the legs up and like a taser shoots out the base of it. Or a big net. Oh, a net is great. A big net?
Starting point is 00:03:20 You know, one of those big cargo nets with the weights in the quarters? Oh, that might be tough to get a good angle on, though, if it's firing from underneath the foothold. Footrest? You'll just have to like kind of spin around and stuff, but then imagine. Oh, oh, what if the net deploys in the chair when you extend it? And you have to get the robber to sit in the chair. You're like, okay, yeah, you can rob us, but maybe you should steal this chair. Check out how comfortable it is.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And then they pull the recline and then it nets them. I don't think any of us will build for crime. I think above all else, what I've, you know, we've done a lot of episodes of this, but it's nice to just sort of have it reiterated that Andrew above all else is a relaxation guy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Of course. Like, I feel like that's probably number one on your thing of guys you are. Would you give us a clean, I'm a relaxation guy? I'm a relaxation guy. All right. Great job for the fan site.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm a relaxation guy. I'm a relaxation guy. 30 fucking takes. I'm a relaxation guy. I'm a relaxation guy. Wow. That's going to come in handy six months from now when Andrew goes, I'm not really much of a relaxation guy.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Oh, 100%. Absolutely. Oh, man. I'm not really a relaxation guy. Okay. Me? I'm not a relaxation guy. Guy like me doesn't like relaxation.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Since we've all done an episode from the tub, have you been urged to relax like we did when we were recording? Have you ever thought about doing your own tub episode? No. It's complicated. You gotta bring stuff in. It's a lot. Because I was thinking, you know how Nick has so far failed to wear the mask this week?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Or like this year, I mean. What if you had to do an episode from the tub? I bet you he has worn it this week. He has. He has. I have it on video. It's not here. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Wait, you're saying do an episode from the tub in secret? Yeah, like secret tub episodes. No, it would not work. It would echo. We'd know. We'd know. It would echo dramatically. Would it?
Starting point is 00:05:33 And I think I've done that, haven't I? I'm pretty sure I did one. I thought, I thought you did a tub episode already. Yeah, is that true? Yeah. Yeah, ages ago. Long time ago. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Was that not in the old show? Yeah, it was the old one. It was the old one, yeah. Oh. I led the charge in the tub recordings. I forgot all about it. And then that was a wonderful surprise. You guys doing it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Made my day. I was thinking about hands. We put them up. Hands, I think, most versatile part of the body, because they can be multiple things. Like, they can punch. Well, no, like, you have hands, right? Base, your base level is hands.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You can turn them into fists. That's a second mode. As a kid, I would turn them into a church. That's a third thing you could do with them. They could be utensils. They could be like a five-year-old's nose. That's true. They could be a nose.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They could be scissors. Cizzards, paper, rock. I don't think there's any other part of the body that could be as many things as the hands. The hand is the original multi-tool. Yeah, it's the Swiss Army knife of body parts. I think the mouth would be close, though, wouldn't it? What else can a mouth do?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, what that mouth do, Gavin? Well, you can blow, you can suck. You could, uh... Yeah, you can. You could rile up a crowd. Communicate. You could incite violence. is talking
Starting point is 00:07:00 see I well no I just sorry I went on a whole journey and I I've had a thought and then I went through and thought no it's not I don't feel that way that's a wrong opinion I was going to say are you crediting the mouth with too many other functions
Starting point is 00:07:17 like does some of that go to the tongue the some of that go to the throat but the hand has fingers yeah it's not just like there's it's all it's equally multi-parted I think you're right what an interesting journey what a great journey What a great journey you just went on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Fantastic. If it's in head, shoulders, knees and toes, it's a pickable item. Eyes and ears and mouth and nose? Yeah, they're all separate enough. But we're not talking like teeth and lips and all that. It's good point. Good, Jeff. Jeff quietly in the background.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's saying good point to whatever the fuck Kevin is talking about. You've not seen. Landry's talking about how granular to get it. And I'm saying if it's in the song, I think you can pick it. Yeah, but I misinterpreted what you said. Oh, dude. I've been playing the quietly agree with Gavin game for like a hundred episodes. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It just caught on. Oh, man. I wonder how, how, like, what's the, what's the record? Overall, what? For the quietly agree, I mean, there are times where I'm right. I'm not saying it's often. times I'm right. I wonder what the score is.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I'm also not saying that. Whenever you're right, I feel like I'm on your side. It just very, very rarely happens. It does. I was going to put an over under on me against the team that plays
Starting point is 00:08:41 against the Globetrotters. I think they have two wins. The Washington Generals. Yeah. I think I got more than them. Oh, for sure. You definitely have a better win-loss record
Starting point is 00:08:50 than the Washington Generals. Gavin, Gavin definitely doesn't have the win-loss ratio of the Harlem Globetrotters. I was going to say when I'm right, I do a good job of communicating it in a way that I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And that's why I need Tina's. The Tina, the, the, the, the person like Tina, Tina, Tina guys. You think you need a translator. I need a much more reasonable, well-articulated person. You're like, oh, this is here, hear this out. And then it sounds reasonable.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I feel like as a group we're all, all mostly always wrong somehow. Oh, yeah. Even when we're against each other, we're still somehow wrong on both sides. So collectively were all the Washington generals? I was thinking more like the Sacramento Kings, but yeah, I guess I'm not that far off from the generals. Feels worse. I feel like we got a lot of good feedback about how to properly clean the anus and how you're not really...
Starting point is 00:09:49 It shouldn't be using lufers and cloths that you use elsewhere. Yeah. You would lock in on that. Yeah, are you, yeah, are you learning a lot? Well, Nick's the cloth guy. Yeah, not anymore. That was a good, that was a good redirect by Gavin. That's what that was.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You still chopping away or what? No, I said last time. I stopped chopping when ages ago. Oh, okay. But I'm not, I'm not wiping on a cloth or anything. Okay. I'm not anymore either. I mean, the thing we didn't talk about, the thing we didn't talk about at the time is,
Starting point is 00:10:27 Like, that's just a thing that Howard Stern would talk about, dude, he would talk about like getting a finger up there. And he's like, that's the only way you can really be clean. And it's like, dude. And, oh, God. And he was, by the way, I have a Howard, it's a great segue. I have a Howard Stern question I wanted to ask you in my notes, Eric, for this episode. But he always would talk to about like you use three baby wipes.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Anything more is going to give you hemorrhoids. Anything less doesn't get you clean. You're only allocated no matter how bad the poop is three baby wipes. I would blow through three baby wipes so fucking fast. He's such an insane person. Like he's just legitimately a crazy person. It's really incredible. You also,
Starting point is 00:11:04 you can't flush those. What's he doing with him? Right. Right. He's probably flushing them. I assume he's flushing them, yeah. I don't think he gives a shit. I think he's got,
Starting point is 00:11:14 I think he's got million dollar toilets with million dollar pipes. Yeah, he does not care. Like, if there's like a repair that has to be made, I don't think that he gives a fuck. I think he's, I think he cares about the environment
Starting point is 00:11:25 in the way celebrities take private planes to environmental summits. I think that's about right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the part where you have the hell of the question. I caught me, I took a swing of my diet Dr. Pepper. I'm just like, I thought somebody would roll. Like I felt like you're teeing yourself up, you did it, and then you just sort of
Starting point is 00:11:50 you looked at the ball. I dropped like the celebrity joke and then I went straight for the soda. But, okay. Everyone should be laughing for a very long time. very funny Joe. It's in my notes. Everybody laughs for a solid five seconds. And take sip five seconds and laughter dies.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Returned the conversation. I was listening to Howard this week and he was doing that thing that he's been doing for a while now, that we've talked about, Eric, where he, um, throughout the entirety of his career, they've been saving memorabilia and mementos and things like the Gary puppets and trophies that he's won and awards and. blockbuster, all just all this dumb stuff. And he's, he's been bitching about for like the last 20 years how he has to pay for three giant storage sheds to hold all this stuff and he doesn't know what he's going to do with it. My assumption has always been that he was holding onto it because
Starting point is 00:12:42 he assumed he would have a Howard Museum someday, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that is clearly not happened. They mentioned in the episode I was listening to this week that they went to three different auction houses. Nobody's interested in the shit. And so now they're just giving it away to audience members for contests. Like, they used to have, like, the one I was listening to this week was, like, a squirder or murder. And they would play the sound of somebody
Starting point is 00:13:05 either being killed in a horror movie or having an orgasm, and you'd have to guess. And then if you win, it used to be, you'd win, like, 500 bucks from Hyundai, but now you win, like, a belt buckle from Howard's Detroit radio station or whatever. I think that's a really clever way to get rid of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:13:20 and I think it's really cool. But it got me wondering, Eric, because I assume as well, he only held on to this stuff because he thought he was getting a museum. Do you think if Howard had retired after Terrestrial Radio, or maybe right after he proved you can be successful and serious, but had gotten out of the game like maybe 10 years ago, do you think that museum would have happened?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Do you think his longevity killed the enthusiasm for his post career? 100%. I think if it was 2015, I think it would have been way more of like the ability to do that. But even that, I think, is pretty late. Yeah. I think if it was like 2012, I think there would have been a fervor for like, yeah, let's do this thing. That would have been great.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And it'd probably still be thriving, right? Because it had gone. Yeah. It's weird. It would be fine. Yeah. Somebody's long-term success can diminish their post-career appetite for that content, I guess, is what. Anyway, we collect a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And so maybe there's something for us to think about and learn in that process before we find ourselves 30 years from now with three storage sheds full of movie memorabilia that nobody wants. So are you telling me there's not going to be like an achievement hunter museum or what's the plan? Dude, I just gave all my achievement hunter stuff that I still had left to Goodwill. So if you want it. Well, like, shuts? All my shirts and stuff. Yeah, I kept three.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And then I was going through my garage just doing spring cleaning and I have these giant tubs of Jeff merch. And I was going through that trying to organize it and not being able to get rid of it, but wanting to. And I just, it was just a ton of Achievementer stuff. I didn't even know I still had. And I was like, I'm definitely never going to wear this. So I kept the three that I liked the most. And then, yeah, I dropped about 40 of them off at Goodwill last Saturday. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:15:03 What were the three? Yeah, what were the, oh, that's such a good question, Ian. That's a great question. One was like a, it almost, it reminds me of the Baltimore Orioles. It's like a tattooy kind of A with orange and black that was one of the, I had like a knife on it. It was one of the like hip, hip, cool designs. one was a it's a black shirt with three with blue Achievement Hunter logos
Starting point is 00:15:28 and kind of a data mashed kind of way that I always liked and then the other one is not coming I can't I can't remember what it is I've top of my head it was another black shirt with white letter white lettering but I don't remember whoa no way a black achievement hunter shirt
Starting point is 00:15:43 that's crazy yeah it's pretty pretty crazy are you offended Gavin that he didn't keep a people like grape shirt well that wasn't achievement hunter that's why he didn't take that one. He said it so smug. He said it so smug. Yeah, it's not Achimony shirt.
Starting point is 00:15:59 No big deal. Like, I used to have this blue shirt. I used to wear this and make mistakes that I used to love that shirt all the time. And I found that and I was like, why am I holding it on to a t-shirt I owned 10 years ago? So I dumped that as well. Got rid all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So are you telling me the music video that Achievement Hunter put out like the remix Out in the Grape says nothing to do with people like grapes? That's correct. Totally different. Totally different. There were two grape-related A joke bit.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Out in the grapes was when I think it was Jeff got stuck really far away from us and he was out in the vineyards in GTA. I just assumed the point of that though was like it was a nod to people like grapes. You assume no. Wow. Okay. You know what? That's some Achievement Hunter trivia.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I didn't know. Whoa. And you're like the Achievement Hunter historian too, so that's like pretty crazy, man. I went to the Goodwill. I bought all the stuff. My museum is. And I can now get rid of that shirt. Oh, I kept the very first pair of Achievement Hunter socks we got because I fought so hard to get those socks made. And when we had that partnership with Strideline, they sent like a, just like a production test.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And I kept that. I have the production test socks from Achievement. Which ones are they? They're just nice socks, man. But they have like the packaging on them and stuff. Is it like the green? Is it these green and black ones? Hold on, let me see.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Uh, yeah. Yeah, it's like the early version of those. That's cool. Like your old bike. Yeah, just like your old bike, Jeff. My old bike. Thank you. Michael was laughing about that yesterday.
Starting point is 00:17:33 100%. Thanks for, thanks for that, Gavin. He was running about the old bike. Yeah, Gavin. I don't think I've ever undone anyone's happiness as soon as I. I never drove a bike again. Yeah, you were so excited to have it. I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:17:49 When I got the worst, I left it at the old house. I wasn't even trying to ruin your day, like most other days. Can I tell you that knowing you're out there somewhere wanting to ruin my day is the best feeling in the world? Because that's how I feel about you, and I just love that it's reciprocated. Oh, it's so good. Warms my heart. Yeah. I just don't want anything real to happen, though.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's just going to be like a really slight ruining of the day. Oh, speaking of ruining days, I'm in the middle of ruining. Gentle ghost. Yeah. I'm in the middle of ruining my day, my future days is here pretty soon. I can't wait. I'll talk about it next week, hopefully. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I'm stupid. Is it something that you are having to deal with and you're making it worse? Or you've literally just started something and it's only going to ruin your day? I'm choosing to do something that's going to ruin. Got it. A lot of my days. So future you problem. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I'm giving a big fuck you to feature Jeff. You're just truly your own worst enemy. Like in every one of these situations, man. Who else? Who else? Who knows me better than me, you know? What are you going to get in my head? I'm already there.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I know how to fuck with me. Don't even try. You want to get in my head? I'm already in my head. I'm already in my head. I am me. Oh, you want to get in my head. head and under my skin. Guess what, buddy? How wild would it be to get in someone's head? And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:24 wow, I can't believe on the first one here. I'm just saying, nobody knows how to fuck with me better than me. It's true. Sure. Is that good? Is that good? I feel like everyone. I think it's a base. It's a base thing. You don't think that you know how to fuck with yourself better than anybody else, Eric? I guess so, but it's just like he's saying it like, yeah, fuck. You. you and it's like, I don't know that it's that. I think that's just Jeff's general attitude. I don't think he's actively trying on most days. I would tend to agree that's just kind of my general attitude.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. That's how, that's just Jeff. Who ruins your day the most, Andrew? You or someone else? Oh, you. Uh, no, me. I'd say me. For sure.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Oh. Absolutely me. Oh, yeah. Me and Andrew were sending TikToks back and forth of Jackrabbits going crazy and going, that's Gavin, this is Gavin. This is Gavin. This is Eric will send like every three weeks. I'll get a Jack Rabbit attack and Eric will, we'll say, this Gavin.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And then Andrew started sending him back, but then putting Gavin quotes with the rabbit. I had to watch that part because we did a stream recently where we played the chicken, ultimate chicken horse update. Yeah. Yeah. Eric found a new item in the box, grabbed it, and I was really excited to use it, and I blew it up before we even played that round.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It was, it was like this disco, like record player thing, and we all went like, oh, cool, I'm excited to see what this is, and then Gavin had dynamite, I laid it down, and then he just blew it up immediately, and I got, like, genuinely upset. I'm like, actually mad. The thing is, is that no one here has played that game more than me, and I don't think anyone was more excited to see what that did than me, and I still had to blow it up,
Starting point is 00:21:20 because I knew it as the rabbit move. I just had to do it. It was such a rabbit move. It was evil. It was truly evil. It hurt me to do, and then as soon as your reaction played out, it was just so worth it.
Starting point is 00:21:36 The ultimate chicken horse update was really cool. It was. It was a fun update. Yeah. Speaking of games, and this is going to get there eventually. We're going to veer off into something and then heading the games.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I was curious, is there a movie that you guys stumbled across that like or what is a movie that you stumbled across that like you were not old enough to like get not that it was like overly mature necessarily but like you just were like what what even is this because for me that was Tommy and I feel like this is an experience that maybe kids don't typically get but just as somebody who is channel surfing as like a 10 year old I came into the middle of Tommy what was on TV and I it's the who's musical film. The rock opera.
Starting point is 00:22:21 The rock opera. It was on and I think that I am like probably the last generation of kid where like it wasn't assumed that every kid was playing video games like was still there was maybe one other person in my class that like actively played games
Starting point is 00:22:38 and so I turned Tommy on and there's pinball is like a big part of that movie and I was like oh this is a gaming movie this is sweet and it is not about gaming, really. I mean, pinball's a part of the story, but it is not gaming centric at all. And I watched it for quite a while, being like, when are they, when they going to get the more video game stuff? I'm really, I'm really liking that Red Dead Revolver. I was hoping
Starting point is 00:23:05 maybe we get some more games with this pinball, because this pinball scene is pretty important. Like Red Dead Revolver is this about that? What? So I was curious, is there a movie like that for you guys, for you watched it? We're like, I, what is this? Uh, for me, it's a movie from 1994 called Clifford, Martin Short and Charles. Great film. Because when I was eight, I did not understand what I was seeing. I didn't get it. I didn't, why is this man a boy?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Like, nothing about it makes sense. And then I got older and watched it. And I went, oh, this is a very weird. dark comedy. But dude, every picture and poster and all of this stuff with Martin Short
Starting point is 00:23:58 looks fucking awful. His head looks so fucked up. I had never seen that movie and Emily and I were talking about it. She loves it and she was like, I can't believe you've never seen it. So we watched it like maybe two months ago. That is a fucking hilarious film.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It's so funny that you bring up Clifford because I have a Clifford story where that was a show, I also came into the middle of old channel surfing as like maybe a nine or 10 year old and I thought it was very funny it was on the family channel
Starting point is 00:24:29 I believe and but I wasn't able to finish it I had to like go do something else so I spent months trying to track down Clifford and I could never find it so I've never seen the entirety of Clifford but I would go to like video stores
Starting point is 00:24:45 like I would search for Clifford and all he would find is that big fucking Red Dog, which then as a kid made me question if the film was called Clifford. It was like the point in tech were like, oh, this movie's great. What is this called? I came in light. So having to watch the channel that showed you what channels were playing, and being like, oh, Clifford, okay. I'll go find this at the store. And I could never find it. It was like too obscure, I guess, or any of the places around me. I think it was like pretty widely paned when it came out. Yeah, I do not think it was well received. It's Martin Shaw on his knees. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:18 What's going on? Gavin, it's the whole movie. The whole movie is he's a small boy. Is he Dolphin? No, he's, I don't remember. I don't know if they show him full body.
Starting point is 00:25:31 No, he's just a little boy. He's 11 or 12 and he's like Groden's nephew, I think. Yeah. And he has to come visit him. He needs to watch him for a week. And Groden agrees to it because he's trying to prove to Mary Steenbergin
Starting point is 00:25:48 that he's ready to settle down and have a family and get married. And because she's about to break up with him, I think, because she's sick of him, you know, not wanting to have kids and stuff. And he's just a terror, just an absolute terror. He just wants to go to, like, this theme park and he has like a little dinosaur. Like, that's really all I remember.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's really all I can remember. Yeah. It's just a weird, weird, strange, strange movie. It is very good. Yeah, it ends with Gruden trying to kill him all at the theme park on a roller coaster. if I remember correctly from two months ago. I definitely was not the right age when I saw that. It just went like, what is happening here?
Starting point is 00:26:29 I have an answer for you, Andrew, for your question. Please. And it's actually something that we talked about yesterday when we filmed our supplemental video we did yesterday about Denzel Washington. It is a movie that our TV show that would always come on in the 80s that my dad would watch called the Equalizer,
Starting point is 00:26:45 where the cover always had a dude with a gun at night. and I would get so excited and then I would sit down to watch it and be like, all right, and then it would always be an old guy that was in a suit who was older than my grandfather talking to people
Starting point is 00:26:57 and I'd be like, where's the fucking gun? And I would always fall for it when my dad would put it on and it was never, and it would always just turned into boring old dudes talking and it was such a letdown.
Starting point is 00:27:07 This is what it looked like? Yeah. Yeah, leaning on a car with like the dark out. Oh my God. Yeah, that's so cool. This would trick everyone. Oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That it's not, That's not what it's about. What's the hell? Does he know what Palakun? On occasion, but this is who he is. Yeah, it's that guy. There's him, here's him holding a, an Uzi?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. He's got to equalize with that. In Uzi? What about you? I don't know, I can't even think of what. There's, there's a piece of media that like, you did not appreciate as a kid that you stumbled into and then went back and then learned to like it.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I mean, I've done that with more recent stuff. Like, I didn't think interstellar was any good when I first saw it. And now, if someone wants to watch it, I'll be like, oh, I'll watch it with you. I just did my first viewing of that, for some reason, I was just not fussed about it. But I can't think of something when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Vueing back into Tommy, I was thinking about it. I think we should determine who is the pinball wizard amongst us. because we know who has the highest score I think we should do a thing where everybody is blindfolded and has noise cancelling headphones on
Starting point is 00:28:25 and determining who the pinball wizard is because the pinball wizard isn't distracted by the lights or sounds they play with intuition and smell and I think it's important to determine who it's in the lyrics I was listening to the song last night and yeah plays a mean pinball
Starting point is 00:28:43 He plays a mean pinball, but they specifically get into that he's not distracted by the lights or the sounds and then he plays with his sense of smell and intuition. And that's what makes them so good. Distracted by the lights and sounds? Yeah. You don't find the distracting? Not particularly, no.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's like when Luke Skywalker put the helmet on and was able to hit the thing, hit the little lasers back. I'm with Han Solo in that scene I don't believe in that stuff I just I like the idea of Gavin has the high score I believe currently and it's a very high score so it's a large number
Starting point is 00:29:25 but him not being the pinball wizard who has the high score Gavin okay is that what you think yeah doesn't Gavin have the high score yeah fuck no he doesn't oh I got beat months ago
Starting point is 00:29:41 what's your high score here He got beat. His score got beat so fucking bad that he had to destroy the game from the inside so no one could play it. So he could do whatever sort of like Zen practice he could figure out so he could finally fix it and play it again. It's not true. Eric got the high score and then blew the machine up for at least six weeks. I don't remember what my high score is. We filmed it.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Gavin told me Eric blew it up because he always unplugs it in the middle of a game. He doesn't like a bad ball. so he's just yanking the plug out. Oh, I unplug it all the time. You show me a faster way to get it turned on and off. Oh, you can hold the stop button and it will just reset. Oh, shit. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Why, why even hold on to that for? Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, fuck you. What the hell? That's awesome. Also, hey, hey, thanks for fixing it, by the way. You're awesome, Gavin. I love you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I really appreciate it. Hey, anytime. Yeah, I mean, thank you, Robert. Thank you, Robert, for electrocuting yourself. Finding out what the thing was and then going, It's this thing specifically. Just order it. I was working my way down a list of things I thought it might be.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And he was like, no, it's just this thing. So he saved me so much time. Immediately. Yeah. So that was good. So it's fixed now. Are you going to tell us that the panel is also like eight players as well? Is that what was next?
Starting point is 00:31:04 What other information are you withholding? It's always been eight players, Andrew. It's never not been. I would love an eight player pinball machine. That would be fun. Eight sets of buttons. I bet they could do eight on some. What about Stardu?
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's great. I went to... I went to the Austin Pinball Collective, like earlier this week, which is just in a 80s office building. It's so, it's like such a bizarre... place to like get into or whatever you can have like a monthly membership or like pay to get in for like the day or whatever dude it just has like over a hundred machines they're all on free play you just sort of like turn them on and off is like you want to play them or whatever
Starting point is 00:31:56 that place was awesome they had a judge dread machine that just it was modded and just played like metallic music the whole place was so so so cool uh we should go check it out sometime it's really yeah i've been meaning to go do they have earth shaker no they don't Don't. Do they have the wind one? Twister? I'm not sure if they have the wind one. We should look into that.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah. But they have a few and some of the machines are for sale, which was very cool. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, the Iron Maiden machine was for sale. That's how I flagged that. I saw that and I went to Iron Maiden machine. I think we could actually do the blindfolded noise cancelling because I think just through feel, you would know whether your ball is still going.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. And it would be interesting so you can get the highest score. I think we need to figure out who the wizard is. How are you going to participate in the wizardry? I have the game virtually. I'll just hold my controller. I'll feel and I'll see. And that's going to help you through smell?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah. My intuition. 80% intuition, 20% smell. 20% smell? Yeah. 15% concentrated power or will. 5% pleasure. What if when we find out the next Canadian pinball convention
Starting point is 00:33:12 What if we all meet up at it? Ooh. Is there a Nanaimo pinball collective? There is, I think. Well, there you go. I believe there is. Very excited by that. Ontario Pinfest.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I don't know if I could pick a place. I was going to say, I don't know if I could pick a place further than from you. That's rough. I'm pretty sure there's a pinball organization that, like, established within the last few years in the Nenema. but they like they rent out a mall they go to you know the great mall of uh i don't want to ruin future picks but i have a pick in which i reference the mall in my town and it is there yes oh that's right yes an event like once a year i want to say is it the middle one in the straight line of the yeah yeah it is it is the middle one in the line of malls yeah absolutely absolutely
Starting point is 00:34:03 it is the middle one in the line of malls i had sort of the reverse of the tommy thing oh shit and they're both Tommies. I'm curious. No, not Tommy Boy. Tommy Pickles. They put out a rug rat collection, like a bunch of the old games.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And I had so much nostalgia for these games because they're some of the earliest games I remember playing on the N64. And I never beat it. It's like the first, the search for Reptar is a game that I would rent all the time. And I played a bit. And I never
Starting point is 00:34:41 finished it and it's part of this collection. And I was so excited when I found out about it. So I bought it. And over the weekend, I beat three different Rugrat games. Jesus Christ. They're all short. They're all like 90 minutes to two hours. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And I fucking hate the Rugrats now. Oh, no. I love the Rugrats so much and I still like how they look because to me it is so 90s like just it's so specifically ugly, but I fucking hate all of those stupid rug rat kids so much. It ruined the Rugrats for me.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I thought I loved the Rugrats. I've spent my entire life up until last week being a Rugrats guy, not a Rugrats guy anymore. They stink. I do not get what I liked about it as a kid. It's terrible. What is it that bothers you about them now? Everything.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They're all annoyed. Oh my God. The game's awful, dreadful. Least amount of fun I've had in a long time playing a game. I was getting so mad at these Rugrat games while playing through them. They're so frustrating. And the dialogue, just the dialogue, the voices,
Starting point is 00:35:54 nothing. Nothing about it is good. I don't know if I've ever been more wrong about anything. You just unlocked an N64, you unlocked a memory for me where I was off school once because I was feeling puky. And I got to rent an N64 game, so I rented South Park, one of the South Park games.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yes. And I just associate that game with vomit now. Like if I look at footage of it, it makes me want to throw up. I totally ruin it for myself. Is it like the one where you like fight the turkeys or whatever? Yeah, it's like turkeys, you can like piss on snowballs and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 There's a picture of a turkey with snowball. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. See if you can find a photo, Eric, of the search for Reptar. That game is so fucking ugly. Although the only cool thing about it, is like you can walk around the Pickles House. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I don't even, that's not, I don't think, Search for Repner. Oh, that's the board game. Oh, okay. Is this something we should let's watch? We should do a Las Wuching. I mean, oh my God, that looks chank. Where's this glass? And I don't know if it's a bad remaster or not, but the
Starting point is 00:36:58 audio in it is popping constantly in that first game. Oh, no. Oh, no, it seems like it's a good remaster. Yeah, also, you know what? It is, it is an issue with the remaster two where the buttons what they say the buttons are, aren't accurate. Like, I think sometimes
Starting point is 00:37:12 what they list is for a PlayStation controller and it doesn't apply to the switch controls, which is how I played it. So I'd be loading into these mini games and trying to figure out what the actual controls are while getting attacked.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And then every fucking five seconds, Tommy Pickles is like, I gotta make room in my diaper for that one. And I fucking hate it. Oh, my God. It sucks. You have to get collectibles
Starting point is 00:37:33 and they don't explain what they do. It's so annoying. That mission, Eric just posted a photo of a dog with dentures. That was one of my memories where I was like, this dog has, I was like, oh, there's a mission in it where you have to fight a goose with dentures
Starting point is 00:37:49 that gets grandpa's dentures. And then the dog got it, and I was like, oh, I guess I remembered that wrong. That's funny. But then the goose steals the dentures. They have to fight the goose with the dentures, and I was right. Just took a while to get there.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I was right. I like Chuckie so much. And he fucking sucks. That kid sucks. That kid's annoying. I don't like Chuck. Stupid. Guess you can't go home again, huh? Didn't Chuckie die?
Starting point is 00:38:16 I hope. Didn't the actress die? Oh. That's different than Chuckie. I don't hope that. That's way different. I thought they did like, because they did Rugrats grown up at eventually. I thought you meant like they did.
Starting point is 00:38:32 No, I don't think, I don't think the character biffed it. Yeah, it's like, Stand by me. He tried to break up two dudes having an argument and a McDonald's and he got stabbed to death. 2014. Oh. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. Also, how stupid these games are. The second one, you got to get keys. And it's like your fucking Dilly, which I also, I was very upset by that. My nickname is now kind of tied to Rugrats in my head. Dillie gets locked behind a door and you have to get keys to get Dilly out. and you get seven keys and then it opens another door
Starting point is 00:39:10 that has like 30 locks in it and they're like yeah it's one of these locks so you can theoretically beat that game if you just get one other key and put it in the right slot insane who's Dilly? It's like Tommy's younger brother
Starting point is 00:39:26 his name is Dill who's Tommy. Tommy's Pickles Tommy Pickles he's the main guy's pickles is the older brother is Steele I've never seen this show. And Drew is his brother?
Starting point is 00:39:39 I think Stu is also dead. There you go. Don't you want to just like look at that? I do. That's Tommy on the left? That's Tommy and Dilly on the left. Well, yeah, Tommy's on the left. Dill's on the right.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Tilly's on the right. Dill Pickle. They only refer to him as Dillie in the game. It's so fucking, the animation is so ugly. It is, but like it's so of that time. That is. What an ugly time. It was.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Hey, Gavin. Yeah, Gavin. 2016. Ooh. Oh, the actor again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But, like, that's how 90s, that's how 90s cartoons look. Like, Reni and Stimpy looked like this. It was just, like, gross. I could watch Rugrats, though. I don't think it was ugly as, it was as ugly as Doug. That, to me, was the worst one to look at.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Doug was the ugliest one to you? Renan Stimpy was ugly on purpose. Yeah. Doug was just, like, all wibbly. It was all, like, double-fronted. Yeah. It was just, like, this is uglier than Rugrats to you? I mean, Doug, so fun.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Not as a still frame, but maybe, yeah, maybe in motion. In movement? Yeah. Was there a lot of chromatic aberration in Doug? I mean, like, remember home movies had squiggle vision. You remember, did you ever watch home movies when it looked like that? Is that guy Doug 10 years old? Yeah, he's like a little kid.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yes, I believe, I think he's something like that, yeah. Why does he dress like a 60-year-old man? He's a fucking loser because he's a dork bitch. Oh, okay. Dorks. He's like older Charlie Brown. He is like older Charlie Brown. He has a Snoopy.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Holy shit. He is like older Charlie Brown. Does the green dude smell? Is he like Pigpin? No. The guy on the left, that's Roger. He's just, he's like the bully. Yeah, he's just like a green guy.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. Gavin, did you ever watch the early seasons of home movies where it looked all. Oh shit. I don't think I've seen that. What the hell is that? Home movies? It's like my favorite show. I don't swim.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I love this show. No, I didn't see that one. It looks very Microsoft paint. Well, it's in the first season, they don't do it in like, I think like a couple episodes into like the second season maybe and then like the third season they don't at all. They just do squiggle vision where it is so fucking weird looking. It's so strange.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It just moves constantly. Like out of nowhere. It's just really bizarre, but I felt, I thought it was kind of like endearing to look at, but I think maybe a lot of people don't. Like a lot of people don't like the way it looks. I would like to see you play these Rugrat games, Gavin, because they are so ugly and you are more so than anybody I know affected by that.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But ugliness? Yeah, in like media, absolutely. there was also a game so South Park was my vomit game there was also a game I think it was like a little demo but it was called truck dismount
Starting point is 00:42:41 where you just plop a little like rag doll guy on a truck and they were driving to a wall and stuff that was the headache game for me like I couldn't play it for more than 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:42:51 without yeah there is there something about how it's just grey and brown and looking at that for more than 20 minutes it gave me just an absolute seething headache is like a browser game
Starting point is 00:43:02 I think it's just a PC game. Yeah. Play the shit out of that. You really are affected by like the look. Because like here's the thing. When we're doing face off season two, he was really upset about my rat jerseys. And I don't really understand.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I thought they looked great. And it was like, you really got upset looking at it. Yeah, they don't like the comp be selected. We did the Trials HD competition had to kind of drag Gavin into that because he didn't like how much. The game looked.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's ugly. I don't want to play it. It's ugly. Speaking of face off season two, we're actually doing our finale live on Patreon for Bog Standard and above. On Monday, June the 15th
Starting point is 00:43:52 at 8 p.m. Central time. It's 8 p.m. Central, which is 9 p.m. Eastern and 6 p.m. Pacific. And those are all the time zones. 7 p.m. Mountain. I've never heard of it. and 8 p.m. is when it starts on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It will be streaming. So we have, by the time this episode's out, you know who's going to be in the finals. We have no idea how this is going to go. And there's a lot that can happen, and there's a lot on the line. Andrew, how are you feeling about this whole setup and everything with Faisal?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh, incredible season of play. It's been a great tournament. I'm so excited for the finale to see who wins. It's going to be, uh, I hope, an interesting back and forth between these two teams. Interesting that our finale is happening right as the real Stanley Cup is happening as well. That is true. Ours is more important.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, for sure. Why is the Stanley Cup finals? Like, why is it in June? I don't, there's like no more ice. I mean, they play in California. There's a lot of places they play. They play in Florida. Oh, yeah, but I mean, I'm just thinking about like, it's a cold, it's a cold sport that needs.
Starting point is 00:45:02 the cold. Like, it just seems strange, doesn't it? Didn't they leave Arizona because they couldn't keep the ice on frozen there? Yeah, that's exactly what I left there. Pretty sure. Those coyotes? Yeah. The coyotes invaded the stadium and they couldn't play
Starting point is 00:45:16 so they had to swap arenas because the coyotes just moved into the old one and they couldn't sustain the ice in the new arena. That's, yeah. It's the official reasons. For sure. How big is the part? You know, like, in a, I don't know if, why what's the supermarket and you get freezes that were
Starting point is 00:45:32 rooms. How big is the bit that makes a room cold? What? Oh. Like could we put one in the office and have like a snow room? But we already haven't we already have an air conditioner. Yeah. Yeah, but that doesn't make the room frosty. You want an industrial grade air conditioner that makes things colder than the than a come up than a residential air conditioner does. Is what you're saying? Yeah. Is it just like a bigger, more powerful air conditioner? Yeah. Yes. Oh. It's that I think think I've talked about on the show, one of my favorite scenes from anything ever, the
Starting point is 00:46:06 Hands on a Hard Body documentary where a guy is telling the story about how he got a Walmart's air conditioner, yeah. I didn't know it would bring the house down to 16 below zero, but we quickly found out it would. The tone he says it in where the first half is like joyfully like, yeah, we didn't know and do that. And then the seriousness and the, but we found out it would. so fucking funny to me. Oh, this seems to have a cardboard hat.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh, it's great. Oh, it's so good. Compressor chiller brine pump. Okay, this is more, this is more advanced than an air conditioner. Or do all air conditioners have brine? Is that just cooling? Yeah, you know, we're just, you know, we're throwing like heated ammonia and chilled ammonia all around the house.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Mark the frog just literally died. Yeah, he's listening to this conversation. He pulled over because he was about to crash hearing you say all these things. I'm gonna say something that I'm pretty sure it's true. I'm like 95% sure it's true, but it feels good, good, good. Excellent. Gavin, did you know that there are basketball games played over the ice? Yeah, that is true.
Starting point is 00:47:16 That's true. Do you think you could tell? You think you could feel it if you're on the court? You could sense that there was ice below you? No, I don't think so. Because they wouldn't want the actual floor to feel cold, would they? I would. Well, the sweat would freeze.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh. I guess it's salty. It'd have to freeze pretty low, wouldn't it? Oh, that'd be so gross. A salt ice rink. An ice rink made of just human sweat. Oh, God. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah, there's cool time lapses of, like, them switching sports and stadiums and stuff. Yeah. It's pretty impressive. Like, it's a really specialized skill to be able to, like, do that and know how to do it. It's crazy. I feel like we've talked about this before, but I think we learned 10 of the NBA and NHL aren't. space and do that.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah. Well, it's going to be, I think, nine after all the shuffling in Dallas, but, you know. Oh, the coyotes move in there, too? There's no coyote problem going on. I just think it would be so fun to, like, in the middle of a break show, just freeze the room.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yeah, I don't feel that way. Why break show? What are we doing? Oh, did I have some of this on camera? Some of this regular? Maybe that's the Gavin and Nick show. You guys get into a room and then we see how long it takes to freeze. Yeah, you got to figure something out eventually, right? on it. We got some ideas. Yeah. You're always working on it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 How do you want to freeze the room? I don't know. Maybe it's because of that episode of Tom and Jerry where they like flood the kitchen and then freeze it. I didn't look so cool. Oh, you can escape. Yeah. Like not many offices have a freezer room in them. Nick and keep his M&Ms in there, a shitload of them. Oh, wow. That was.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I will, yeah. I like a place that has a freezer room. Either walking down the freezer section of a grocery store. It's chilly. Yeah. That's nice. Or like Costco where they have like walking freezers. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:07 My favorite section. Is it really? Absolutely. If I could have, if I'm like, let's say I'm richy rich, I've unlimited money, I would sleep in a freezer room. 100%. Okay. So if I've worked on, I probably have to get some better doors and maybe seal the floors and walls together a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But if I had a frozen room in the office, would you come and sleep in it? How cold we talking? Minus... Well, below zero. Ten. If you could get me into the hands on a hard body temperature range of 16 below zero.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Was he talking Fahrenheit, though? What's that in Celsius? I'm sure he was talking Fahrenheit. There's no way that that guy was talking Celsius. Was it, minus 40 is the same, right? Uh-huh. Minus 8.8. Wait, that's 16.
Starting point is 00:50:00 minus 26 C Wow Incredible Incredible You would die I think overnight in there Yeah that would be the problem
Starting point is 00:50:12 But boy would it be cozy Yeah but yeah you'd be cozy You'd have to get some really nice blankets A bunch of pillows You'd be good dude Get some king size blanket Some big fluffy Get some king size blankets
Starting point is 00:50:24 Some fluffiness Full coverage The rest would be so cold they'd shatter in the traps. They would. They'd shatter anyway. You know how they have sleeping bags that have a coldness rating? They're like rated to Arctic temperatures or like to zero degrees.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Do you think that there's just like a cold room at the North Face in Patagonia where people just have to sleep in different sleeping bags and wear different flannel shirts and then mark how comfortable or how close to dying they are? Yeah. I wonder if you can get a sleeping bag with brine built in. I'm surprised that they haven't made sleeping bag clothing. This is, dude. I started looking up sleeping bag testing areas.
Starting point is 00:51:07 This is, this looks like an experiment. That's terrible. That is absolutely terrible. For the audience who can't see, it's a mannequin inside of a sleeping bag all nestled up nice and tight. And then there are two XLR cords going into its eyeballs for some reason. Imagine Bain lost weight and they plugged two mics into his eyes. He's wearing like the Riddler mask from that Batman movie with Robert Pattinson. What is happening?
Starting point is 00:51:40 What is this? Why do there have to be cables in the eyes? You'll recognize it. It's the thumbnail. I promise you. Maybe it's because you lose heat fastest through your eyes. It might be a thing where I bet it's plugged in and there's plugs that run all through the dummy and it's just like,
Starting point is 00:51:59 well, you plug it into like the head because that's the part that like sticks out. But like through the eyes is so insane. It's so, this is crazy. No, you do not leave heat fastest through your eyes. Oh, okay. No. I learned that boat safety.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I feel like whenever I'm thermal, I'm taking a thermal picture of a cat, it's got hot eyes and ears. Oh, speaking of eyes, Gavin and I had a debate a long time ago that I'm curious to hear what your guys' thoughts are. I won't reveal whose position was what.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I bet you will. I'm jabby. Words right out of my mouth, my man. We'll see. We'll see who, where do you think things like. I bet you can't help yourself. What do you think requires more effort, having your eyes be open or closed? Oh, yeah, I remember this.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Oh, that's interesting. I don't, I'm doing both. Open. Is it open? I guess open? It's open, right? What do you think is the natural resting position for the eyes? Do you think open is like default or closed is default?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Well, since you sleep with them closed, I'm going to be closed. Yeah, I know that at the end of the night, sometimes my eyes will be tired and I'll like I'll put my book or my phone down because my eyes are tired and they need to go to their resting position, which is closed. But when you die, your eyes don't just like close. You know what I mean? Like, oh, your muscles go slack or whatever. Like, your eyes don't just close.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, but when you die, you don't do anything. Yeah. Sort of the point. I agree. I agree. But if all the muscles go slack, you're not holding your hands straight up in front of you. When you die, if you die with your eyes closed, do they stay closed or do they pop open? They stay close.
Starting point is 00:53:50 They stay close through like Rickaboyus and then they would just shrink as you rot. Say your eyes really just mirror what you're doing when you die. I guess the hard part for me to wrap my head around is that you're using the word effort. Yeah. And it feels effortless either way. That's true. Okay. Do you think you could guess who is on which side of this argument?
Starting point is 00:54:11 I have a feeling you were saying open and Andrew was saying closed. No, no, no, no, Andrew was saying open. You were saying closed? Wait, what, wait. It's what takes more effort? What takes more effort? I would say that, boy, that's really hard because Andrew's, Andrew's a sleep guy. So I want him to go with, it's easier to have your eyes.
Starting point is 00:54:28 closed. What do you think, Jeff? But Andrew might think, yeah, but your eyes are open 18 hours a day and they're only closed 16 hours a day, so it must be easier to keep them open than to keep them closed. Okay, you know what? Let me reframe the question in a way that I did with Gavin as well.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Okay. Just to really read. No, no, no, no, I'm just setting a scenario. I think this will help. I think this will help because it is like the kind of back and forth you guys just went through, I think is fair. if you stood behind a curtain and somebody said okay I can't see you I'm gonna rip this curtain down
Starting point is 00:55:05 put yourself in what you feel like is the body's like natural position what are your eyes doing this is so different from the question it's the same thing it's the same question no it's not yeah what what is what requires more effort is I think if it requires more effort
Starting point is 00:55:24 it's not the natural rest position of the thing. Okay, so Andrew is saying eyes closed, Gavin is saying, wait, Andrew's saying it's more effort to have your eyes open. Gavin is... I think Andrew thinks it's more effort to have your eyes closed and Gavin thinks it's more effort to have them open. Yeah, that seems right, but Andrew, it seems, yeah, but... But then that's saying that Andrew,
Starting point is 00:55:50 but then that's saying that Andrew thinks that the natural resting for an eyes to be open. Nick, you're behind the curtain. I'm ripping this curtain down. You're in what you think the natural position to think. Like unaffected, what are your eyes doing? They open or closed.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I don't understand what my... Somebody reboot Nick. Ripping down the curtain, Nick. What are your eyes doing? Did you say, why would it be? Well, yeah, you're looking through the curtain so your eyes are, open? I don't understand. What is it proof?
Starting point is 00:56:26 I think what Nick is trying to get at is... No, no. What is it proved? You don't look at it. It's not like a peep show. You're not looking through the curtain. The point of the curtain is that you're standing behind the curtain and you're told, okay, do what you think is the natural position
Starting point is 00:56:42 for your body. So for me, it would be arms at my sides. They're not going to be forwarded that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what are your eyes doing when I rip down the, I ripped down the curtain? I ripped down the curtain. Nick's in his position. What is, what are? What is open, closed?
Starting point is 00:56:56 They're open. Interesting. What is it proved? Wait, Andrew, are you standing up behind the curtain? Surely you be on the floor? Oh, no, I'm standing out. It's a vertical curve, for sure. Oh, well, if you're going to be closed.
Starting point is 00:57:12 That changes everything. What horizontal curtains are there? I'm not a curtain guy, I don't know. You think the body's natural resting position is standing? On a stage? What I, just, the practicality of it. Like I get what you're saying, but like you want the people in the seats to be able to see the reaction to the like what happened Nick is like standing up and flipping out
Starting point is 00:57:32 The people see like there's an audience Nick doesn't understand any part of this and it's making him mad It doesn't it's not a quiz not a one-to-one It is a one-one I thought it was just two people on either side of a curtain Andrews now said it's basically like a stage scenario Yeah, I guess you know this is like Nick thought it was like a wanking
Starting point is 00:57:53 peep show or something. How many people are in the audience? That's a great question. It's probably not well attended. I said there's a lot of empty seats. Okay. I'd definitely be lying down if you said get into the natural resting position of the body. Yeah, but then I have to like walk over to see what your eyes are doing. I really only care about what your eyes are doing. The point is to try to make a determination on the ice. Oh, if there was a camera on my eyes. Okay, well that solves it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Andrew, what are your eyes doing? Oh, they're closed. They're absolutely closed. It requires way more effort to have your eyes open than it is closed. Wait. Wait. You've switched. No, I've always been on the unclosed or the natural position.
Starting point is 00:58:44 What? You were arguing that eyes open required less effort. This is like the way I dreamed that this would go. God damn, this is beautiful. That was the whole debate was I was arguing that eyes closed requires less effort than eyes open We just did six minutes on this
Starting point is 00:59:04 And they agree with each other That we didn't agree at the time I must have persuaded him in this text And he doesn't remember We're gonna need to see those texts at some point You said I'm so happy DeFault is certainly open
Starting point is 00:59:21 You strain for the closed Andrew thoughts Did I say that? I think I thought at the time I was saying the opposite of what I said and I was shocked that you felt the other way I think we just agree I'm so happy
Starting point is 00:59:40 I'm so happy because it definitely requires more effort to have your eyes open read further with the curtain thing I think I argue that the eyes closed would be what the thing is when you pull the curtain unless I'm reading this wrong let me post a screenshot of just the bit I found okay
Starting point is 00:59:56 Okay. Okay. It has to be the most, this is Andrew talking, this has to be the most worked muscle than, wrong, because default is certainly open. Default is certainly open is what he says. You strain for the closed. And Gavin said, that's mental.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Andrew says it takes much more effort to keep an eye closed than an eye open. Gavin says, then why doesn't it ping open when you get knocked out? Andrew says, Self-defense mode. This is how I view it, and it is a guy doing lat pull-downs saying open is the utmost position. Closed is your pulled-down lat-pull position. You haven't said, so you think it's like a sphincter, like an eye is just an upper anus.
Starting point is 01:00:50 This is what we talk about. Andrew thoughts? A man can grow. Gavin, I was wrong. I apologize. This is, I think you must have persuaded me. And I didn't,
Starting point is 01:01:04 I, I must have misremembered after your persuasion. This is the craziest way in an episode, well, I think this might be the craziest way we've had an episode end. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:13 no, it's wrong. Put that on the list of wrong. That's a win for the Globetrotters right there. Let me tell you, though. Let me tell you something interesting. I think I might be starting to come around on your way.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Really? You've got to be kidding me. And I'll tell you why. I've been a... Don't be a fool. When I fly to England sometimes, I'm jet lagged. And to me, that's not really me being tired in the day. It's just me not being able to sleep at night.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And I'm just wide awake at night. I put on an eye mask and I think, oh, I don't know, let's get to sleep. Let's actually try and go to sleep. I shut my eyes. And then as soon as I lose concentration, I realize that my eyes are open again under my eye mask. To the point where maybe that is my default state.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Hmm Interesting Because I keep having to be like Why am I eyes open again I'm looking at nothing It's pitch black I can't even tell if they're open Yeah it is the thing
Starting point is 01:02:06 I definitely have noticed With my eye mask too Where it feels like They're forcing your eyes down Which is nice Biologically The default state of your eyelids Is closed
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah There we go Hmm Yeah I think I'm sticking with it But, you know, in certain situations, I do find them open. But that is, that is wild that you remembered it. You remember the, the reverse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I think that I ended up agreeing with you and then I forgot what side I was on because I agreed. Yeah, you convinced me, but I didn't remember. It was like you inceptioned me, but it was just me, inceptioning me. I did it all my own. I was there. If you went in my head, I was there. I got in your head, but I was the second person. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:53 It seems biologically this podcast is now closed. You have, you've listened to the entirety of Regulation 109. Congratulations. You completed it. You can check it off your list of things to do in life. That one is a win. Thanks for listening. Tell everybody you've ever met to listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 01:03:13 We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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