Regulation Podcast - The Day the Music Died // Vin Diesel: Deep Dive [83]

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about who is on one, ARC Raiders, flute solo, NFT, Scribblenauts, screensharing, Airplay, boomer tech opinions, desk standing, Gavin's setup, ebay, Analogue3D, TurboGrafix, light gun games, triple anus, casting, internet speed, FNAF, Achievement Hunter, Matthew Lillard, xXx 2, Michael Caine, movies that are other movies draft, Andrew's pillows, christmas list, Caboose, brain embarrassment, body part replacement, and Andrew's new product. Sponsored by Shopify. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/face Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With me as always, Andrew Pant and Gavin Free, Nick Schwartz, Eric Padour. Who is the most on one today? Oh. Not me. In the pleasant trees, it sounded like Andrew was a little wired, a little amped up. A little amped up? Yeah. You got to bring the juice, Gavin.

If I had to picture it, before you sat down and hit record, you were just stood next to your chair, punching the air just like yeah like animal from the Muppets I'm hitting everything on my desk I'm going crazy I'm ready this is episode 83 why don't you harness that energy and take us into the episode Andrew I sure am

83 great reasons to enjoy the show episode note one I got a story about arc creators oh I had a great art creators experience last night I was told to spread the word and I think

it was delivered to me in a way that they did not anticipate the word potentially being spread. I was having a normal Ark Raiders experience that was running around as Luton and I came across a group of two. Aspiring

artists, some may say, that have an event that they're going to share. I'm going to share my screen with all of you and I'm going to take you on a little bit of my Ark Raiders journey that I clipped Wow. Throughout that Even. Go and find this on YouTube if you're listening.

Find it on YouTube. I have Nick recording the screen. I was in the space station. There's lightning. There's the lightning mode. Is everybody watching? Watching yeah. I will hit play. No, I will not. I will hit on Zoom. Now I will hit play. Going up a zip line. Going up a zip line. Get ready. There are voices in this. Oh. I'm just trying to loot the space port. Going way up the zip line. Yeah, going way up. Gotta go to the space port. Got to see what's going on up here. There's some good loot. Pop up, immediately see a person. That's scary.

That is scary. It's not gonna apply for a moment because they start playing music. Oh yeah, they're flute guys. They're flute guys. Oh, hell yeah. So they wanted the word to be spread to December 6th for our our single drops.

Oh, oh. Oh, they wanted the word to be spread that December 6th, their spot. The recorder's single is dropping. It's out by the time this comes out. That just means you can go check it out now. So that was...

Immediately started dancing. Yeah, absolutely. You got to, you know, go with the vibe. I'm not done, so I continue to clip with them because we're hanging out in the space tower will ever open. Because this website is a piece of shit. We're getting there.

Why is this how the... Nick's gonna cut it on the Saturday. Like, what's the... Oh, here we get it. So then I go up. I go up to the top. Is that a different crew there? Nope, same crew.

Okay. They're just hanging out. They're looting. They're looking for stuff. You know, there's good stuff on the roof. But you have to jump between the two. Is this nighttime mode or just like that? Oh, no!

They attempted to jump between the two and they fell. Oh, no, the day the music died! Oh, no! So the music died. that day, unfortunately. I ran down to try to check on them and both of them were down by the time I got there.

Did you help them up? Well, I didn't have, you need a defib to revive people. But they asked me if I had bandages because you can heal people when they're down to try to crawl. And I didn't have any. And so unfortunately,

one of them bled out. Then I found some bandages. And I was able to heal the other one. So they're crawling and they're working on getting back towards the port. But they gave me permission to loot the body of the one who had died. Okay. So I was doing my best to personally extract the one that was down.

So you're just luring him out as he's slugging along the ground, healing him. Yeah, they're trying to crawl to the extract, and I am shooting hornets and stuff on the way, doing my best to protect them. And this is the end of the journey of the talented musicians. They're saying like, hey, you don't need to be out here. this is dangerous but I was committed that was unfortunately one of the bodies they didn't make it but I took their flute their recorder which felt like taking one of Jimmy Hendrix's guitars honestly nice shot by the way yeah so I'm just searching making sure that they got what they got I have a better

thing so I don't need that I gotta go to protect them now I'm gonna protect them and not only protect them but I need to serenade them on their way to the exit You just out in the open in the rain, they're rolling, you'll flutin. A lightning! No! And that's how it ends. It's like you called the lightning down on them with your flute.

I don't know if I've laughed harder in a game this year than running up and then be like, yeah, I'm still crawling and then realizing that the lightning strike had spawned on them. Oh, no, no! And then just death. And then you never spoke to them again Never spoke to them again Took both of their recorders

I'm never selling them I'm keeping them in my inventory Those are collectibles Those are cherished items No one is ever taking this Separate somehow Like can you know which ones are theirs And which ones are future recorders

Do you think? That's a great question I don't think I can I went in for the first time And seed if I could like Make an item Just like locked in Like locked so you couldn't

accidentally get rid of it In any capacity I don't think you can. I plan on wiping my character so I'll have to reset everything at a certain point, but I think what I'll do is I'll pass somebody my recorders for them to hold

for when I reset so I can get them back on the other side of it. Yeah, if we play again, I can hold on to him and you can regenerate your corpse basically into a new man and then I'll drop them for you. It would be amazing if you can hold on to these two recorders for the rest of your life. That is the goal.

and then somebody can buy them in your celebrity auction someday it would be cool if there was like a centralized app where you could hold your prize possessions from every game I feel like that you're I think you just described the botch the blockchain yeah I was about to say

that you just pitched what NFTs were shit as an idea but it doesn't work that way and I don't want to listen to anything about an NFT no it's a real sad yeah but if it was like like so my favorite thing I've got Pokemon on the brain.

My favorite thing in Pokemon is to get the master ball in every game and immediately use it on the next Pokemon I see. So I would like keep my master balls with pidgees in them, I think, would be my prized possessions. Oh. Yeah. That's interesting. Really annoys people as well when you show them the video.

You throw a master ball of Pidgee. Eric, what is your most prized video game possession? Oh, dude. I don't know that I have anything that's a prized video. video game possession. Like, I don't, I'm so ephemeral with games. I don't keep, I don't think to keep anything from games. That's tough. Do you have something like that, Jeff? I mean, I, I guess if I did, it would be, well, I guess I'm kind of partial to owning Achievement City, the world I created in, or we all created in Minecraft. But, I mean, that's, that's not like an accolade from a video game.

I guess the cluster I'd be it. I really, I worked really hard to get those skins in Call of Duty. And And I'm really mad that there's a new Call of Duty now I'll have the skins on the new Call of Duty. And it just makes me not want to play Calduty anymore. If I had to come up with an item that I would want to keep forever that I don't have access to, it would probably be the original Tower of Pimps, which was just some of Ray's gold in his world.

So I think, I mean, if he still has that world, technically Ray has the original Tower of Pimp still. That's interesting. I wonder if he does. I was thinking about it and what it would be. and I think it would be me in scribble knots. I really, like, that's the thing that I really, I don't necessarily have access to because I don't think I'm in scribble knots anymore,

but like at one point you could write my name and I would be in scribble knots. Oh, that's so cool. Is that like a database of people, or is it just pull like white man's name from someone? Thanks, man. So all of Mega 64 is in scribal knots, but appreciate you, dude.

It was a genuine question. Didn't feel like it. I think it as a genuine question. Yeah, that was the most defensive I've seen Eric get about absolutely nothing so far on this podcast. I would say that that's my video game thing. Genuine question, but the question at its core is really, so is that actually about you? Or is it just some generic bullshit that you did that all get for you? Yeah, but that was my genuine question.

Yeah, but it's not, it's, it's... Like, it could just, it could easily be programmed just to take up, like a man's name. No, I understand. I get the question. I get your point. I'm saying that there is a level of dismissiveness. I asked a genuine question and I got a genuine answer. I got the information that I was actually asking for, but in a really minged off way.

Yeah. It's also true. Oh, we have so much filming together to do today. I'm so excited. Hey, Andrew, can I, Andrew, can I point something out real quick? Of course. I appreciate you coming to my defense as well, too. So I'm trying to give you a heads up here.

You have a habit of not stopping sharing your screen. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. It's been all goddamn week with you. That's fine. Yesterday was for a reason. I know. But then the six hours afterwards weren't for the reason.

And then earlier this week, the 24 hours also weren't for a reason. Okay. So the six hours after was I was very tired after we did all of our recording yesterday. And I fell asleep. I had a nap. Yesterday was a pretty packed day, huh? Yesterday was a packed day. I was very tired.

I had asleep and I left it on. The other one, I just forgot. But outside of that. Which is what happened yesterday also. I understand. I think though historically, I don't know if that's true. I think it's just been a bad week. I agree historically you haven't had that thing.

That's why I said this week you've been having a heck of a time. Yeah. Well, I want it. Nick needed help with the thing, or Nick was helping me with the thing. Yeah. Nick, either Nick needed help or I needed help. I think both was true. Yeah.

A little of both. Little of both. Threw along some Canucks analysis for Nick to listen to. Yeah, you're welcome. You gotta stay on top of it. I learned a lot. Power plays, penalty kills. Do you ever do anything on this computer aside from work,

or do you just do everything on it? I mainly use it for work. Okay. What do you do on a computer that's not work in 2025? I watch a video on. The other thing I use it for is I'll throw on, like, sporting events on. That wasn't like a sarcastic question. I'm just just sort of curiosity, because I watch most of my, even my YouTube on my TV at this point.

I was just thinking, like, outside of what I do for this company, I don't really touch a computer much. I think I would watch more YouTube on my TV if airplaying ever worked the first time. Dude, Gavin, you're so fucking on the money, dude. I feel the exact same way. Here's what Apple have designed is, oh, there's a TV there with an Apple TV on it, right? I'll airplay to it. It will turn on the Apple TV and turn on my TV.

Airplay will fail to take what I'm watching on my phone to my TV, and then Apple TV auto resumes the thing that was previously being watched on my Apple TV. So here's what I'm doing. I'm watching YouTube. Oh, I want to watch that on the TV. Didn't work. Now downtown Abbey is playing on the telly.

and I have to go and find the remote and turn it off. That happens, I think, maybe nine times out of ten for me. I don't think I ever use either in that way, the way you're describing. Oh, okay. You just use the app. Yeah, I would just like go to the app and search for sloppy joes or whatever. Yeah, I just like to avoid finding the remote. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it's the remote and typing everything in. Isn't that like a headache? No. Oh, that's, yeah, definitely. I don't know, Jeff. Nick said it was a headache. Wow, I mean, maybe for Nick. Maybe for guys like Nick, but it doesn't.

doesn't bother me, no. For guys like Nick. Yeah. Yeah, guys like Nick. Why guys like Nick? What's up, Nick? You want to get right up on that microphone. What?

So why guys like Nick? Yeah, why guys? I think it's interesting the, like, evolution of, uh, I don't know, a better word for it than like boomerism. Of like using tech. Like, before. just being completely tech-enept, and it's evolving to a point of like,

you're using tech, but just not in an optimal way, which I feel very much a part of, because I'm not, I'm not air-playing anything, ever. Same, yeah. Doesn't occur to me to do that. Sometimes I'll airplay like a hockey game

if that's the only way I can get it, but yeah, it's, uh, I almost never airplay. Yeah, to me, airplay just feels like a fad that never took off. I just wish they would use, I wish there was more like physical ways of doing it. Like,

this NFC in a phone, why can't I just tap my phone on the Apple TV and it just goes, and if I'm wearing headphones, it's in there too? Like, why can't you just move stuff around physically? I will say a problem I agree with you right there. I will say a problem I have lately that has just started. And I don't know if it's a product upgrade. But now anytime I walk around, if I have had Apple, like my Apple headphones in, if I walk within 50 feet of any Apple device, they just switch to that device. And suddenly I'm not listening to my podcast anymore. And I don't know how to stop it from fucking doing that.

But I don't want to transition from my phone to my TV when I walk in the front door. That's annoying. Who wants that? If you actually wanted to do that, you'd have to click like 17 buttons to make that happen. Of course, it'd be impossible. Yeah, it's just like a world I don't live in.

I feel like a YouTube wrong. Yeah, what's the most boomer shit way you use technology, Andrew? Caps locks probably using that instead of the shift. Not really knowing shift at all. Well, Andrew was, while I was watching a true screen, or I think I was just watching the folder on the NAS, but he made a folder with reverse caps. It was like three words all typed in.

It was like lowercase A, uppercase, advent. Yeah. I was just going to say that that is like, I said it to Gavin at the time of like proof that I am a caps lock's guy. Also proof that you don't look at the screen. No. Well, it depends. See, I, so my, my keyboard is to my far left. It's not in front of me. It's awkward to type anything. And it's also a small keyboard. So my hands aren't used to where the keys are naturally. What if you got a bigger keyboard and put it directly in front of you? Yeah.

I have one. I've ordered, but it might be too big. We'll see. Too big for the desk or just too big for your? It'll fit on the desk, but I have concerns about it. I didn't read how much it weighed until after I ordered it, and it's pretty heavy. I rarely read how much something weighs after I order it. Yeah, I agree.

What made you worried about it? It's like 15 pounds, and that feels really heavy. Is it a fucking typewriter? I don't know. Why do you think the weight would be a problem? Do you pick your keyboard up a lot? It just, it makes me scared to have a 15-pound giant keyboard on my desk. Hmm.

I don't think it's going anywhere. No, but it's like made a metal, I don't know. It just, it's, I mean, I- I just hang it up and- Regularly stand on my desk. You stand on your desk? What? Yeah.

Why? Why? Well, sometimes to like get to my lower monitor, I need to stand on it and reach over, and sometimes the cat is like on top of the thing behind my desk, so I stand on the desk to get it down. This happens quite a lot. Sounds like a bad setup to me. Gavin likes to cosplay dead poets society.

He says, oh, captain, my captain to Smee. I don't think I've ever stood on my desk. Well, I'm pretty sure the desk I have right now would crack in half of the second,

dude. I'm at the office. I'm at the office. Okay. No, don't try it. No, try it.

Don't do the desk where you put the legs on backwards. That one will collapse. Oh, yeah, hang on. Maybe if you go, through, we'll have it on the security.

You did it? Oh! I'm doing it now. Oh. Let me see if I can take a screenshot of this. I'll take a screenshot. Nick, are you also in the office? No, not yet. Do I look like I'm surfing? Can we put that in the Discord, please? I'll need that for the thumbnail.

Okay, let me post it. Oh! All right. So do you ever do this again, Eric, based on this experience? Is it worth it? No, waste of time. Yeah. I accidentally hit my volume as I was taking the screen show. Oh, wait to go, man. Way to go, Gavin.

You got some good stuff, dude. Definitely using that thumbnail. Don't worry. I'll get you, I'll get you a clean, uh, clean pay. I want the bad one now. Honestly, no need. Looks good, dude. Wait, Gavin,

he's surfing the sound waves. What is, uh, what is your most boomer tech thing, Gav? Surely you've got one. Oh, uh, uh, Ooh, what do I was trying to do that this is such a simple way for? I think my thing is like trying to create stuff that helps me out and saves me time that it just ends up costing me time, like that freaking pedal for my mute button because

to me sitting on it. There's no need for it. There's no need to get fancy with it. Yep. I think we all agree. Your setup is fascinating to me because it seems you are somebody that in my mind is always trying to optimize for, as you said, most efficiency. Well, I like to make use of stuff.

Like, if I retire a piece of equipment, I just want to use it somewhere else. I don't want to, like, put it in a cupboard. So I end up, like, trying to, like, fix problems that don't really exist with stuff. It just, it feels like your setup in certain ways. It's just so overly complicated. And doesn't work. Tell me about it. Which part?

Like, when you're trying to share games. to somebody and you have to have a second Discord account in and then sometimes you have no audio at all. Or like when your mute button goes on and off a thousand times because there's a pedal that the cat is sitting on. When you could just be using a mouse to click it, like I don't. No, it's, yeah, the mouse didn't work. What? What? How not?

Because the freaking work? It worked if I unplugged the pedal. It sucks. That's Gavin. Gavin. Come on. I'm on your desk and I'm on the pedal. That's why I did.

That's how I got it to work each time. Because when I click the mouse, that's when the mute button would be like the mute icon would be on. But I would like break through it. I would still be heard. So it sounds like you are a unique case where you add pieces of tech to create barriers for yourself. Yeah, really. Or most of the time people are adding things or removing things for efficiency reasons. you are just creating new loops for you to jump through.

I wouldn't have any of these problems if it was easier to sell stuff on eBay. I think it's not hard. Yeah, I just think you don't want to. It's just quite a faf, though, isn't it? I don't think it is for people. What is the eBay selling have to do with your setup? Oh, I would just sell so much stuff

instead of just putting it somewhere else. So do that. Yeah, and you see that. What was the last time you sold something? Do you regularly use eBay? I sold a bunch of cards on eBay last year as a test. It was fine. Literally on eBay, like just a second ago, looking at Beatles rock band to see how much it cost.

To buy? Yeah. That's very different than selling on eBay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But people have to sell it to me, so it appears to be pretty simple. It's also expensive. It wasn't so hard for that person to list that VHS Joan Rivers' video game we're going to play. Just saying.

bought that yesterday for us. It just seems a little bit 19908 whenever I try it. Have you thought about just giving it away? Is it because it was 1998 the last time you tried it? Yeah, you could just send it to people. Yeah.

You want it? I don't want your pedal that doesn't work, no, but I'm saying that... I just don't want a cat to sit on it. I don't think the curb necessarily. I'm saying that I feel like you could easily... There are probably subredits

or even people in this community where it could be, you know, like someone that just posts like, hey, I have this thing, I don't have a use for it anymore. Does anyone want this? I'm sure you could find people. It's interesting because...

Do you want to search for people who want your trash? Not trash, though. It doesn't sound like trash. Like, he's getting new pieces in. It sounds like the problem is it. Yeah, it's not trash. He still sees value in it.

Right. That's the problem. So then I guess the question becomes, Gavin, do you think that realistically these items have value, or is it just a... Yeah. Okay, so they have...

And I'm gonna use it in the way I intended again in future. I just, in the meantime, didn't want to have it just sat somewhere. I don't, I don't understand. I'm gonna use it under a Pimble Machine again. It's the reason I bought it. Got it, okay.

Oh. I just don't understand why you feel you have to use it, though, in that in between time. Yeah, and just made me feel better about it. When, so when it's mute, mute, mute on mute, mute on mute, mute, you're like, I don't feel good? I didn't feel great in that moment.

We felt really good about you too. How many kicks before you feel comfortable reversing it? Just having an unplugged. Is there like an amount of use you can use for an item before you feel like you're adequate and you're using? I feel like I haven't wasted it. Yeah, so you can retire it or like just you're happy or comfortable with the idea knowing that you'll use it eventually in this way? I think just deep down I don't like waste. And if it's not being wasted, it just makes me feel better.

waste. I think, yeah, just it being like in a box for three years would be a waste. See, I feel so the opposite when it comes to like retro game stuff where I have all these retro game type consoles and or just old games where it's like, I'm not going to be playing these all the time, but just knowing it's accessible to me brings me joy. And your filing cabinet? File and cabinet bags, closets, I need to like go through things. When you're starting a business, it's insanely stressful. It feels like you're spinning 16 plates at once, and as you proceed, they only multiply.

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Yeah, finally shipped. I can't believe that in 2025, one of the things I'm most excited about arriving is an 64. Yeah, the HDMI. It's going to be great. You need to play Donkey Kong 64. So it's an N64 with HTML? Yeah. It's like an analog.

It takes like the actual cartridge or is it? Yes, it takes the actual cartridge. Analog is a company that like it's not, I guess it's technically emulation, but they view it as like the actual pieces. Like it is constructed essentially in the same way. Hardware emulation, not software emulation. Yes. Oh. So they're like fancy retro consoles that are very.

well made. And they released an N64 one that got delayed for a long time, finally came out. But it's like a modern N64 so you can like give it more RAM and stuff and it will run games that chugged back of the day and it'll run them smooth. Yes. And I'm happy that Gavin is getting one so he can play Donkey Kong 64. I think you told me about it. I did.

As soon as I saw it, I sent it to you because I want to watch you beat the original Donkey Kong part in Donkey Kong. So it's just a full-on... It's just a Nintendo 64, but you can hook up, like, other controllers. So A-Bid-Doh or do makes the controllers for it, and they made it in 64-1 that looks awesome, which is in the images you're showing.

That's really cool. They make great controllers. Nintendo not to try to shut this down. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm sure that's what's happening. Yeah. I guess that far enough outside of Nintendo stuff. So, like, they have his S-N-E-S-N-E-S-E-E-S-W.

version of this that I have. That's awesome. They made an NES one that I don't. They did a analog pocket, which is like all the Game Boy stuff and that's really cool. Are these readily available or they in small print runs? Small print runs that are not readily. I think the pocket is very available, but like the S&ES and the NES ones, I don't think they make the NES anymore. But yeah, they're great retro company analog. That if you're somebody who cares about playing like the games on the old cartridges is probably the like best way to do it. I'm a big, uh, I want to play on the original controller kind of guy. Oh really?

So like that controller doesn't do anything for you? I'm sure it would be nice for some stuff, but I'll probably play Donkey Kong on the original one. They made a retro turbographic? Why would you even bother? That's incredible. That's crazy. Finally, the six turbographic games that I own, I can play again. Hooray.

That's insane. Yeah, but Splatterhouse. Yeah, that's a big. That's about it. And Bonk's adventure. Bonk's adventure. That's about it. That's about it.

I really want the Phillips console. What was that? I'm forgetting the name of it. Oh. 3D.O. The Phillips 3D. Yeah.

I would love for that. There's just like no emulation for that. Well, there is, but it's like, it's not nearly a priority because that is not a love console, but there's some really bullshit games on that thing. Yeah, what games were on the 3D.

the one with those Jancast Zelda games on him? It may have been. I don't know about that. It has a lot of like, like, like, light gun type games that are. Oh, Andrew, we got to get 3DOs. 3D was Panasonic. So maybe, is that what you're thinking of

or was that, did Phillips I want to do? I don't know. What, where is Mad Dog McCree? What platform did that come out on? That was Bill. Phillips had the CDI, maybe. Maybe it's the CDI. It's whatever the platform, Mad Dog McCree came out on.

Mad Dog McCree is on the 3DO. 3DO, yeah. 3DO, okay. Oh, this is like that V8, this is like a VHS. Oh, are you not familiar with Matt Dog McCree just by name? Oh,

so good. It is the most like stuntman ass actors doing a Wild West thing, and the acting is horrendous. It's so funny. They ported it for the, later, I think it's probably the easiest way to play those games now. But the original Mad Dog McCree.

It's stuff like just an actor looking into the lens and being like, you gotta shoot these outlaws and then just running around and like, create a, yeah, Eric Post another screenshot. So you end up just like shooting video clips? Yeah, you're shooting video clips. It's an entire run. The company that made Mad Dog McCree made like 12 different ones of these. and they are all so special.

We should somehow do a let's play. Oh, I want you so badly. I was going to say we should try to make one of these. Like, how do you make a FMP? Like a young game. It can't be that. If they did it in like the 90s, it can't be that hard to now. Yeah, we can probably do it right?

Do it on an iPhone. Right? Should we do it where like the player is like visiting our office? So there's just all this shit everywhere and like Andrews walking by and you got to try. I'm up on the table surfing. It's great. There is, let me find the name of the game. I'll see if I can find the trailer for it.

Back at Let's Play, I was trying to get Larry to help me figure out emulation for it because I wanted to do videos in it. But there is American Laser Games was the developer, which turned into the studio that made the Nancy Drew games over time. That's what a lot of those people later moved on to. Yeah, they're great. But, uh, let me for this. It's called Crime Patrol 2 Drug Wars. Hmm. Let me see if I can pull up a trailer to show with you guys.

Uh, here we go. I'm going to share my screen again. Crime Patrol 2 drug wars. An FMV classic. Now imagine like some Tony Montana style cheesy villainy. Or imagine an average. an app with my name on it? An app with your name on it.

Jeff, 44. This is like every ninja movie I've been watching in my office for last week. Dude, big time. Okay, why do you have to whisper it? Like, ASMR. Oh, this is awesome. That's me and Nick. Why are we up here?

Why are we down here? We need to be. You got to take on the narcotics king. Oh, Jeff, he's on a jet ski. This guy's flying out. Oh, you're right, Andrew. This is like stunt people. This is like all they want to do. Yes, it's all just stunt shit. Oh, we can make this. This is literally all the bad guys from American Ninja 2. I just watched yesterday.

That's phenomenal. Why didn't rooster teeth make this? You tried to make this? You tried to make this? What's going on? We'll leave it there, but yeah, I've wanted for like multiple years now to do videos and like these days. I would, we got to do that. That looked like a mega-64 video.

It sure did. I thought the same thing. Yeah. Wow. While we're doing all this emulating, we should also remember that we should play 3D Ultra Mini Golf too at some point. Absolutely. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Lots of great old games to play. And new games. and the Joan Rivers game coming in the mail and the Joan River how do VHS games work? Is it like you hit pause? I don't think I've ever played one.

We're gonna find that together. Oh, that'll be fun. Outside of that, are you guys playing anything? I've been playing a lot of arc writers. I've been playing trying to get into the slant machine rogue like that just came out on game pass. I, uh,

figuring that out. I 100%ed ball pit and now back on power simulator or Power Watch Simulator 2. I've been playing Arc Raiders on stream. It's a really fun game, but it's fun in a stressful way. You know, it's definitely not relaxing in any way. So I'm in the market for a relaxing game right now.

Chill game. What about you, Gavin? I thought you were playing Arc Raiders yesterday. Yeah, just playing a little bit with Meg. Trying to get her into it. What did Meg think of it? I feel like there's a lot to take in on the first two games. Oh, absolutely.

So maybe we'll give it like five or six before I get the official review. I mean, the first time we played, Eric literally shot one of the boss enemies, not knowing there's a boss enemy, while we were attempting to extract immediately. Yeah. We put up two videos and then we did a stream. And in the stream that came out before the second video, we're a lot more experience with it. But in the videos we recorded, I had no concept whatsoever that other players might be friendly. Oh, yeah. I thought it was like a game of HALO or it's like, well, obviously, I'm going to kill other people, I see.

I didn't know that was even a possibility in those videos. Yeah, we wasted that guy as he was extracting and he was really mad at us. I feel bad about it. Yeah, I feel bad about it too. Because I never start on anyone in that game. No, definitely. I was talking to Andrew about it before we started recording where it's like, Jeff's right, it's a super stressful game.

Like I really like it, but it is really stressful. Especially when you get like blueprints or something that you've been trying to get and then you run into people and you go, I'm friendly all the time, but what if they're not friendly right now? and then you're like way guard up because you're like, I have to extract with this stuff otherwise a huge waste of time. That's why you got to put it in your asshole.

Yeah, but my asshole can only fit so many things, you know what I mean? It's like when I got two blueprints, which blueprints bet which blueprints going up there? Is there an anus upgrade in that game? Oh, I don't know. I'm only on like the medium like stuff. I'm not on the, like, the upgrade,

but like the different loadouts you can have, there's some that you have like three things. Triple anus? Triple anus. That would be like Luter 3 or something probably. I wonder if anyone has ever found a skeleton, like an archaeologist

or whatever. And they determined that like, oh, they were smuggling something in their anus based off the skeleton remains. Oh, definitely. Do you think they could tell? If something was just like in the pelvis? I think like, yeah. Like if there's like a gem.

A skeleton ever been discovered with something up its anus. I mean, all the skeleton type stuff, I feel like is crazy, because you hear like, oh, found the remains of whatever. What did you find,

Jeff? The first response just said, first preserved dinosaur butthole is perfect and unique. Oh, God, no. I can only hope that they say that about me when I pass. Oh, never mind.

That's good enough. Oh, great. dinosaur butthole. I want to know, we're talking about the boomer tech opinions or whatever, I want to know if Nick has any boomer tech opinions because I feel like,

I feel like Nick's in an in-between place where audio moves so fast and then stop so suddenly, and there's ways that you do it and then ways that you don't anymore. Do you have any boomer tech opinions? Not even about audio, Nick. About audio?

I don't know. It doesn't have to be about audio, just in general. I was going to say everything is like so high tech these days and everybody has, a mic at home and some kind of audio interface. So it's all constantly evolving anyway. But I'm kind of with Jeff on the whole, I don't really want to cast things to the TV. I'm just so old. Now, I will say, if it is something that I have to particularly look up, I'm like,

I'm not even going to bother watching that on the TV. I'll just go watch it on my computer. But like, when ESPN wasn't on YouTube TV, right, I still had direct TV, I think from my brother's login anyway. I would cast that to the TV. And every time, I did it, I'd go to do something else. Like, I was like, I was listening to a podcast, right, while I was trying to do that. And it would kick me off of the TV and put the podcast on it. I was like, I want to watch this, but I want to listen to this. Stop doing that.

So I'm just way out on the cast tech. It's just, it's too new for me. I'm too old. Don't care. It's just like, you just spend like, it's one of those things where you go, oh, right, this is a this thing is a thing that I can do. It's an easy technology to use. And then you spend three minutes mad at the world before you get it to

because it never works the same way twice. I think maybe the most boomer thing I do is that I use my inbox as my to-do list still. So, like, I have the notes app for creative notes for regulation stuff. But if I have something I need to do, like I needed to call, I needed to email our lawyer today. I sent myself an email yesterday to remind myself to do it. And then when I get up in the morning, I just check my unread messages. And that's how I know what my day is. Jeff, I have one worse.

And that is that anytime we have a draft or anything coming up, I make a draft in my emails. And I just list it off in there. And then I just save the draft. I definitely don't do that. That's like such a CIA tactic. Your draft is your clipboard. Like we are going to break into your like information somehow. And you're like, no, I'll save it as a draft.

They'll never find this anywhere. Incredible. I don't know why. I just don't use the documents thing. I was just like, I can just access my email anywhere real quick. Yeah, you know, so. I guess I use it how that works a lot for... Nick, did we ever tell you the, uh, all that time I wasted troubleshooting Eric's

problem where he could only upload to our NAS at five megabytes? No, what was the solution? What happened? Well, I was, I was looking on my, because we were all getting like 80, well, I was getting like 60 to 80 megabytes a second and Eric was stuck of five. And I was like looking at the graph and like Jeff was up there. I was up there. And Eric was just like a slug at the bottom.

And I was like, I was like, trying to... I was like looking at ports. I was like trying to all this stuff. I was like white listing his devices. I just can't figure it out. And then it turns out he's on spectrum. Yeah, my internet's slow. Where the upload speed is capped at 40 megabits.

Oh, 40 megabits is five megabytes. Yep. It is so slow. It's like, oh, woof, boys. I must have wasted like three hours over the space of a week, just like trying different stuff. And it's just his dog.

If you don't live in the US spectrum, is a absolutely dog shit. Dog shit. Absolutely dog shit. I hate it. Which advertises gigabit speeds, but it's only a kick down. Uh-huh.

Oh, wow. Miserable. The up is capped. The up is capped up to be 40. Yep. That 40? Yep. Shit.

So it was that is what's offered in my neighborhood. Pretty cool stuff. Wow. 2025. That sucks. Brutal. Yeah, it's really sucks. It sucks for your line of work.

you're telling me I have to deal with it I'm sure for most people it's fine like when we upload a video like when a gameplay's done I just turn it on and upload it and then go all right well I'm gonna go do something else for an hour

just like leave it I just walk away drive it to the office you stream from home it works fine right yeah yeah yeah I have just enough where I can like I can stream

like my upload is just enough where I can like stream and that's fine yep because like AT&T was the other internet offered, and that down is like 30 megs. Not? What? I'm not talking gigs, and that's down.

The up is like even smaller. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. That's just what's offered in my neighborhood. It's brutal. I feel like that's quite common all around the country, but to be so close to the rest of Austin, which is like eight gigabit fiber at the moment. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I would love if they ran in my neighborhood. They never will, but. We could run a cable from my house to yours. we might as well probably be some some degradation along yeah but it'll probably still be faster than what the fuck I have so who cares

it can't be more than 15 miles yep it's a unique frustration internet stuff in Canada because I had Shaw internet that got bought by Rogers and I have Rogers internet and Rogers owns a lot of the sports franchises in the East there will be times where I'm stuck

using their shitty app that won't load that won't let me watch their thing when I'm trying to watch their own product and it makes it like a whole other level of just infuriating. Like I'm paying money to watch the thing to support the thing that you own. Like this is a double level of ownership

I'm trying to engage in. Just let me watch your stupid thing. So annoying. I love that I used to be so excited about software updates for stuff. I'm like, oh, sweet, what are the new features. And now if ever there's an update for something, I'm just full of dread.

I'm like, oh, which dog shit spyware are they going to put on this now? It's such a specific thing of, like, being disconnected. For me, I've been thinking a lot about five nights at Freddy's, because that second movie's coming out in, like, a week, and I've never played those games, and I'm somebody who, like, is very aware of, like, gaming culture and, like, what games are coming out. I just have never engaged in that, and it's massive,

and I just feel so left out of a hobby that I'm so, invested in. Have you seen the first Five Nights at Freddy's movie? Didn't see. I haven't engaged in any Five Nights at Freddy's content. Is there something to do there? Because I'm in the same as you. I've never seen a second of the video game. I never watched any of the

films. I know what it is through pop culture, but I have never seen a second of the game, I don't think. Is there something we'll like, is there something we could do there? I don't know. Is it a fun game? Is anyone does anybody? Is it enjoyable?

A big streamer game in like 2014? Yeah, I guess I didn't really care. Was it good game? Do you like it? It's a very simple game. It's pretty scary, though. Yeah. Scary with headphones on. It was fun.

I played it with Michael at Achievement Hunter. Was it fun or is it like content fun, if that makes sense? Yeah, I wouldn't play outside of work. It's not really my bag. What about you, Nick? I feel like you're the horror guy when it comes to the games. That one was one I was never good. at but I always wanted to try to sit down and play it.

Even the notion of like being good at five nights at Freddy's never occurred to me. I just don't. Yeah. You have to like stop. You have to look at the cameras, right? Like isn't that the mechanic? Like you're trying to. Yeah, you're watching cameras,

but there's like a certain trick to it too where I guess certain things you do with the flashlight scares them off. You send like no like some audio notifications to certain rooms that scare certain things off and then you have to shut the door. And I was just like, I don't know which I'm supposed to do for what creature. So I'm the game really, though. It's just like learning how to get around each weird bastard in a suit or possessed suit whatever it is. For five nights?

Five whole nights. Five whole nights. Did you? Okay. What? How long is the game? Five nights. It doesn't seem like a human clock.

Five real nights. Matthew Lillard is the final boss. in every game. Did you ever see Starfighter? Is that the video game movie that he's in with Freddie Prince Jr? You mean Wing Commander? Wing Commander.

Yeah, I always mix those two up because they're two things they never interact with. Never saw it. Never played Wing Commander either. Wasn't my kind of game when I was growing up. Wing Commander is a poster I've seen all the time and I feel like it has to be absurd as a video game movie. I feel like they made that game in Austin,

maybe. Really? I think so. That's cool. Have you seen Wing Commander, Gavin? No, I've never heard of it. What's your favorite Matthew Lillard movie, Gavin? I want to get to the bottom of this with you. This is Andrew gets to the bottom of it with Gavin. I think I've only seen him in Scream.

You didn't see the Scooby-Doo movies? Nah. I heard, I heard Matt Holam worked on those movies. What movies? Scooby-Doo. Oh, he did, yeah. The first one. I don't think he did the second one.

That's an interesting choice. I guess he didn't probably make the choice. Which one is scrappy scrappy Zilla or whatever. He worked on scrappy Zilla. That's the part everyone hates. Yeah, I was always a scrappy guy. People do hate that, but I liked him. I went into after we talked about it yesterday, why Vind Diesel wasn't in Triple X2 and the reason is apparently he didn't like the script, which I think is bullshit.

I don't believe it. I think that's a conspiracy. because the triple X1 script isn't art. Like features the line, don't be a dick, dick, like what, at what state,

like what about the sequel? Well, wasn't it a thing where like he's like, I'm going to do this thing? And then they kept doing Fast and Furious movies. And then he went, well, fuck this. I want to go do that.

I think he, apparently you just said no to the script that he wasn't interested. Sure he did. That's why he did pitch door, no, not pitch perfect. Pitch perfect.

That's why he said pitch perfect. Ben Diesel and pitch perfect. Oh, wow. Just continuing his songs of the summer. His one album. I guess not even an album. Does he have an album or is it just a single? I don't know.

I don't think I've heard any other Vin Diesel songs. I just like the one. He's kind of famously difficult, though, right? Like, wasn't there that one movie he was in where he refused to show his biceps because he saves his biceps for Vin Diesel movies? that was a big thing. I haven't heard that, but that is awesome.

Yeah, that was, uh, I'll find the movie. You guys keep talking. So it's just, he just has singles, but feel like I do is the one. And I love that cover so goddamn much. Fuck, I love that album cover. It's just his dumb fucking smiling face with like four Instagram filters on top of it. Incredible. Incredible.

God damn. He's such a fun, incompetent actor that is, I love that he's best friends with Michael Kane. Is that true? Yeah, they're super close. They love each other. I guess they met at like some party or something and now every time either of them or like

if Michael Kane is in New York or Vin Diesel is in London, they get dinner together. Michael Kane has like a whole chapter in his book dedicated to how much he loves Vin Diesel. Which is why I think Michael Kane is coming out of retirement to act in the last witch hunter too. Because it's a

Vin Diesel movie and that's like his guy. Dude, I watched that movie the other day. Whoa. It's so bad. I don't remember anything about it. But I love Vin Diesel only tries to make franchises at this stage of his career and it's so funny when they flop or they're just like, why? I did you, who is this for?

Michael Kane is 92 years old. It's coming out for Last Witch Hunter too. The Last Witch Hunter has Vin Diesel with hair and a beard. and it looks fucking ridiculous. And it's awesome. He's an immortal witch hunter who must stop a plague from ravaging the entire world.

And to be clear, this is his D&D character. It is a film about his D&D character. That is exactly what this is. He made a 147 million worldwide. That is more than I would have guessed. That's way too much for how bad this movie is. It's, I like, I'm having fun with like a bad movie or whatever.

I was watching this just going like, dude, like no fucking way. Like get this out of here. it had the first one had Michael Cain and Elijah Wood in it and then a bunch of other people. Kurt Angle was in it. Cool. Awesome.

So you know it's good. Yeah. Kurt Angle has an interesting film career. Oh, Rose Leslie. She was the, what's her face? You know nothing, John Snow. Game of Thrones? Yeah, she was in it too.

He fights witches is the whole thing. Can you believe it? And he's the last of them. He has a lot of movies that are like he's the guy. He's the hero type. Bloodshot was another one. What is your favorite Vin Diesel movie or franchise? I mean, immediately I want to say triple X.

Talked about that so much, though. It might be triple X. Because he gets to, I know I've talked about it on this show, but it's where he gets to be Sherlock Holmes. And it's so stupid in the best way. We should have a draft of movies that are actually other movies. Yes.

Like how the Rock is actually a James Bond film. Yeah, dude. Movies that are other movies draft. Yeah. I love it. People who couldn't get into the actual franchise they want, so they just make a different one. Indiesel is almost 60.

Is he really? It's crazy. Oh, wow. 58. Pull him up as IMDB. I want to analyze this. I'm sure it's not his best movie or anything, but I feel I just have such positive memories of pitch black.

I should go back and watch it again, because I remember really loving it when it came out. It's a fun, like, horror action movie. and you can stop there as far as the I never saw Chronicles of Riddaker I don't need to There was I think there may be working on a fourth

Look I'm looking at his career Fast and Furious obviously bloodshot Was horrific I saw that movie I like that you're the only person I feel like When I pull up these obscure Vindiesel things That it's like ah Eric's probably seen this I like I like a dumb action movie

That isn't trying to be Way way way way way more than it really needs to be. And Bloodshot felt like that. Also, TPG, that was an easy guy to talk to these movies about. You know what I mean? That's true. I remember, he's in a movie called Find Me Guilty.

That's apparently very good. But he has hair in it and it blew me away. What movie? It's called Find Me Guilty. Hmm. And I remember seeing it in Blockbuster as a kid came out and me being like, whoa, he's a serious actor. Is that his real hair? I don't know.

I don't think so. I just didn't know. It looks like a wig. Wallnuts. Shoot your cuffs, kid. What the fuck. I've never seen it. But it's just the Vin Diesel hair movie is what it's known as in my brain.

Well, his first movie was Awakening's. He was uncredited Hospital Orderly. Oh, that's a sad movie. Yeah, it is. And then he was Bouncer uncredited in New Jack City. Oh, wow. Is Awakening's the one where they die and then come back to see if the afterlife is real? There's nothing to do with the afterlife.

That's, what, when they're like shocking each other back to life and stuff? Yeah. Flatliners? Flatliners. Oh, yeah. They remade that movie. It did. I saw it. I thought it could be Awakening.

Awakens could be the title of that movie. I think Awakening is a sad. Shocked awake. Like people are ill and then they get a drug and they get, like, reanimated. It almost. Yeah, well, like, I think it's based on a true story, right? Where there's people with this certain disease

that renders them comatose, and then they tried some drug or something, and everybody woke up, but it was temporary, and then they all went back to sleep, and they've never figured out why or how to get them to wake up again. Crazy.

Oh, God. Yeah, I don't think they were necessarily asleep, but they were just like inside their own. Comatose again, yeah. And, and it launched the career of one, Vin Diesel. as uncredited orderly number four. You launched his career.

As interesting as I'm thinking about this, the Awakening's and Flatliners. I think there are a lot of movies you can trick people into thinking their other movies if they start it late. Yeah, the turning of the screw I thought was totally different

when I was a little kid. I'm thinking even like if somebody walked five minutes into Die Hard, you could probably tell them the movies called The Terminator. And unless they had an awareness of the Terminator, it would make sense. Just start lying and saying that John McLean's a robot

from the future. But you don't even need to do that. I feel like you can just be called the Terminator. He's Terminator. I feel like you'll do that to any person with any movie that they walk into five minutes late. Like, I don't know what Tommy Knockers is, but if I came into it late, you could lie to me about whatever Tommy Knockers is probably. Just based

on the name, it's like, it seems so specific but so vague. So you kind of do that. Yeah, I think, would that be, if you came five minutes into Die Hard, would there be any movie that you couldn't lie and say it is? Maybe like Sound of Music or something? He probably wouldn't buy it. Yeah, that'd be a tough one. You'd probably be looking for saving Private Ryan. You'd be like, where's Private Ryan? He'd be like, where's Private Ryan? He must be up the skyscraper. He is on 34. It's kind of weird that they never meet Private Ryan if he's trying to save them.

Seems way more about his wife. Interstellar would be a tough sell for Diehard. I feel like there are people that would just think like that's a fancy title Sounds fancy interstellic Because I'm thinking about Because like inception is also a very similarly styled title True True

Sort of the idea more so I think it would be funnier though of like the water boy Doing that die hard as the water boy You just expect him to set off the sprinklers any moment That's his superhero ability. He's the water boy. I was thinking the other night about how Emily has the whole like sleep procedure and equipment that she has to go through. And how Andrew also has a bunch of specifics pillow arrangement.

Oh, yeah. Who do you think has the more expensive sleep set up between Andrew and Emily? Oh, it's got to be Andrew, right? Like the CPAP alone is got to be expensive. Oh, yeah. Well, I think that's less of a preference to us, more of a, necessity. That's a requirement, yeah. With all his pillows and he incorporated the spaghetti

at one point. Yeah, spaghetti was good. Like, how much money aside from CPAP have you put into your kips? You got the eye mask, you got... The thing with the pillows, though, is that, like, a lot of them are over a decade old. Oh. So, I feel like the value shifts, right? Could you go ahead and throw them away today? Pillars aren't typically buy it for life.

Uh-uh. When do you guys get rid of pillows? I feel like sometimes you change a You change a pillow case And you just look at the pillow And you're just like, Eh, this one's done. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't think I've ever done that. When you get to a point where you gotta like shake it to one side To get enough pillow to use. Well, do you, what about your undies? Do you ever put on a pair and think,

this is probably the last time I'm wearing these? Huh. If you've never done, just in general, If you've never done a full sock and undie refresh, I recommend trying it at least once in your life. It's nice. Just go in your drawer.

Well, buy new underwear and socks first. When they come in, then just go in your drawer and donate all your old or throw it away if it's super gross or whatever. And then just switch it out, and it's a, it's real nice. It's a nice present for yourself. I use these things until they're functionally non-usable. And then I move on.

So until your nuts bust through, you're going to keep wearing some boxes. Yeah. Do you have any boxes from the 2000s? No. Are you a boxers guy? Yeah, but I'll, uh, a boxer briefs. Boxer briefs, yeah.

And I'll buy them like every once in a while. I'll just add in a new mix. Like they'll just be like, you know, yeah, I can use that. You can use a new mix. It's always the same type though. So it's not, it's not like I got new exciting designs in the rotation. Everything looks the same. I mean, maybe you're like, maybe you treat your boxes like I treat my

technology that I don't want to waste. I think I do. You just really don't want to. Oh, maybe. I think they should be wasted. I think if you've worn a pair of boxes 180 times, I think they're... Yeah.

You guys should put a lot of this stuff on the curb. Like, leave it to the outdoors, to the elements. Gavin should listen to the advice he's giving Andrew a little bit too, yeah. The only time I swap out of pillows, if it rips, and there's, like, feathers everywhere. Every pillow I've gotten rid of is, like, the feathers have shot everywhere,

and I can't literally is unusable. Yeah. So that's how old they are. They still have feathers in them. I guess, yeah. I definitely have some feather ones. Don't you find, though, that when, like, somebody gives you underwear or socks as a gift,

that your drawer gets too full if you don't get rid of some old stuff to make room for the new stuff? I feel like I'm constantly, anything new comes in, something old has to go out in my house. That is a great way to live. Yeah, I don't think about it in that way.

I just don't have the space or not. I just find a new place. Hmm. I don't have, like, a lock. in drawer. You should put all your underwear and socks in your filing cabinet. Oh yeah. I don't have.

It's, yeah. I don't know if I had the room. What if today you throw away one pair? I'd have to scout and find which one I guess is the least deserving. I'd give it away. I don't even know if I give it. I would say if it's got a hole in it,

you should get rid of it. Yeah, it's got to go. Okay. Any sock or underwear that has a hole should go. Sox, I got socks for days. I don't wear socks unless I have to.

That's an optional thing, and I've got a lot of socks. So I'm doing fine in that department. So you must have socks from the 2000s? Almost certainly, yeah. Because surely your mom was by your socks. Well, no, I got rid of all, I got rid of all of my socks in like mid to late 2010s, and I just bought a whole bunch of the same sock. Get a big purge.

So just do that right now with underwear. Yeah, I don't need to. Then do it right now with pillow. If you're telling me, I can get more pillow in. No, you get, you get new pillow and pillow out. Is that what you're saying? Get pillow, pillow bigger, get rid of old pillow. Yeah.

Pillow in pillow out. I like that. I've been putting together my Christmas list and that has me feeling like an old man. You got pillows on there? I don't have pillows on there. I have like tweezers on there. I have Tweezers are

Gummy vitamins If you want If you want them they are Tweezers are For Christmas I don't like Gavin Tell you what is and isn't for Christmas

I'm trying to think a stalking stuffers I've asked For like a stalking Stuffer type thing Oh so for not for you Well for me What do you mean

For his stocking Okay So Are you listening? I don't Why are you picking What's in your stocking Well the

I was asked What are some things That you would want So it's not Just stuff I don't want He doesn't know he's getting tweezers. He just knows he asked for them. I compiled a list of things.

I don't know which of these things I will receive. I receive some of them or none of them. I will be equally happy, but I've created a list. Why are you telling Santa what you want? How do you think this works, Gavin? Just like the interview, having a splinter and being like, another month. Just got to wait it out.

Andrew, what was last time you had a splinter? Oh, man, I became irrationally afraid of splinters. In my teens, I would say. I think there was an episode of family guy, maybe. Somebody gets a splinter and it gets infected. I saw it as a kid, a teenager, probably older than I should have been, in terms of being like, I want to avoid those. So I can't tell you the last time.

It's more like I've stepped on glass. It's a lot more common than it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ow. Because sometimes you break like a picture frame or something and you think you got it all

and then six months later you'll step somewhere and it'll just be like, oh my God, it sucks. What is your oldest article of clothing, Gavin? Probably a caboose shirt. You still wear it? Like rooster teeth merch. It's...

He still wear a caboose shirt? No, I don't... I mean, I've got it still. I don't wear it. I could wear it today. Yeah, wear it today. Let's throw Bernie a bone. He could use it, I'm sure.

Wear it out. The wear it and some merch and some content so we could throw some. I've just got that really like old mothbally smell to the point where there's no way I could wear it without washing it first, but I'm worried the washing machine would just tear it to shreds at this point.

I'm not a big caboose guy these days. But, 2003. So you, so that shirt might be from like 2005 or six. Wow. No, it's from like, when, when, when was the first run of shirts? I thought it was 2003 or 2004 probably. Yeah, it's from then.

So from that run. So, oh, wow. I remember. That's pretty old, 20 years. I remember being in the seventh grade with joint desks and explaining a caboose joke to the table. And it's the, like, one of the most. embarrassed I've ever felt. Just complete regret.

Just explaining Red versus Blue in this joke to three people that couldn't have cared less. But don't even like Halo. Never mind. And she's like, no, time is a circle. That's my clocks around. Get it? That's crazy. What was the joke?

Do you remember? I have no memory of that. I've tried to repress those memories. I've done the same thing with my roost-to-dice experience. That's fair. I'm just now getting Abba back. I lost Abba in like the fifth grade. I'm now...

Oh yeah, because of that performance. Yeah, but now I'm like, it doesn't bother me. I think that's a nice feature of the brain is that when you embarrass the shit out of yourself, your brain just starts like patching it up and like hiding it from you to the point where you're like, I either don't remember that at all or do I even... remember the full extent of the embarrassment? That was like a weird negative consequence of what I started using CPAP and I could actually sleep and I was dreaming and doing things of I was having dreams of past trauma that I didn't

realize was still bothered me in some way and I was like, oh shit, I just, I guess I've just been dealing with these internally that I haven't been able to like remember. And that wasn't even your brain trying to repress that stuff. Your brain was trying to get to it, but you were never. sleeping long enough to get... Exactly. It's wild. Maybe that's why you were sleeping like shit.

You were doing it to yourself. So you could never dream about the trauma. I don't think... I just think my body sucks. I think it's just a bad... I'm just bad at being a body. Which you... Because I used to fall asleep in the top all the time,

and I realized it's because I was getting no sleep ever. I was always tired. Yeah, I think if you're falling asleep outside of your bed, You need to fix something somewhere. Yeah, but I thought I was just really comfortable. And that's not the case. I was just very sleep deprived. I mean, people get really comfortable while they're driving it, but it never ends well.

Oh, God. If you could upgrade one piece of your body, what would you go for? Oh, I mean, immediately you'd think ankles, right? But I'm kind of okay with that. I've learned to live with shit ankles. Let's say that you can spend, you can spend 10 grand for a complete brand new replacement. of one body part. Oh, man.

So it's like, it's gonna leave a dent. You gotta make it count. Can I like be inspector gadget with this? Or is it like, I'm just improving. What, you're gonna have like a robot elbow or something? Like an extended arm.

No, it's just a... It's just one that works. When Spider-Man first came out, the Toby McGuire one, if I was laying down and I was really comfortable. I didn't want to get out to grab something. I tried to shoot a web.

You're like, listen. No. Quadrillion to one chance that this works. Gav, why don't you give him an example? What would you upgrade in Gavin? Please, for the love of God,

give him an example. Okay, so say every morning, morning when you wake up, you stand up with your hip pops, and it really hurts. You can just get a new hip that doesn't do that. I don't have anything like that, really. Your bodies are perfect,

well, like, I'm not like, no. Smaller head? He's not getting a smaller head. He's getting a smaller head. He's getting a new head. Awesome. I think I would get

maybe a new collarbone. It's insane because you've told us in the past that your intestines is a dog shit. Yeah, but I don't, I don't, I don't know if that's like a butthole problem or if that's like an intestine problem. I'd definitely go for a new colon. I'm a heart.

I just don't. I don't know, like, does that make sense where if you've got six holes in a wall, if you patch one, I don't know if it fixes the problem. Fixes that hole? That's true. You struggle more with your collarbone than you do with your- No, I have no issue. Can I say my collarbone? Why are you a question, Andrew?

Crazy question. Yeah. Would you rather have six holes in a wall or five holes in a wall? Yeah, good question. Depends how big the wall is, if I'm being honest. No, it doesn't. I mean, to be honest, six is the same as five when it comes to wallhole. I don't know.

You can't get the four until you get to five. It's a process. He's got a point. I guess I just never really think about my collarbone. So why'd you want a new one? Because I'd like to see how it feels if I'd still not think about it or if like it would feel better. Like maybe it's bad and I don't know it. You would spend 10 grand on something that you don't ever feel to see if you would feel.

Okay. Well, I forgot that I'm spending money on this. If I'm spending money on this, then I'm absolutely... Picking the least fun option and going with the gut. I'm doing some gut replacements. I'm doing intestinal. Yeah, I think that's a wise move. Yeah, I'd swap out the intestine.

Now, I don't understand how collarbone is a fun choice. Well, because, like, I feel like it stabilizes the shoulders. I feel like it probably does more than I think about. Well, a collarbone is a notoriously nasty recovery if you break it. I can understand a lot of people saying collarbone if they've previously broken it. To say collarbone, because it's never had any effect on your life, is absolutely insane. Right. Well, there are other problems where, like, my left shoulder doesn't really fully function

the way I'd want it to, but I don't know what I would be fixing in that. Is that you can say, yeah, but there's so many parts of the shoulder. And you think collarbone is the fix? I mean, I don't know if it would hurt. Like, where do you think the shoulder? Is it like where your arm socket is, or is it like your shoulder blade? Is it like on the top of your shoulder? It's like the socket into kind of like the bicep is where I historically had problems.

Socket to bicep. Yeah. Like it pops a lot. What bone is that? Like your rotator cuff area? So when I was, I injured it when I was like probably 15 or 16 and it would be like a thing where I couldn't, if I laid flat on my back, it would hurt, but I wouldn't feel any pain in any other way. And then I think I maybe further dislocated it.

And then I popped it back in. and it's been fine since then, but it feels a little, like it's a little crackly. We need to get Andrew Tommy John surgery. Oh, maybe. I never pitched, though. Well, you will now.

Yeah, you're the starter. Get out there. Get on the mound. What are you fixing, Jeff, a 10 grand on your... Oh, on my body? I'm fixing my butt hole,

for sure. I'm getting rid of diverticulitis. You got home. So I don't know, I would like to not have to take Miralex every day of my life without break for fear of pain. and I would like to not make a Jackson Pollock

four times a day. I would like to not be in a position where I use a toilet scrubber more than a fork, you know? Oh, God. I don't like that comparable. I used that in a couple of previous episodes. I used that a while ago in this podcast.

So I brought it back up. Is there a toilet that sits in a state of constant flow while you're using it? Like, can you Jackson Pollock a wet, flowing toilet? Oh, I don't think you can. Yes, if it's forceful enough. Yeah, I could. Jeff takes it as a challenge.

I definitely could. I would argue that I have. Yeah. We should wrap up. Can I pitch a product before we do? Speaking of bathroom stuff, I think I have a... Hydrophobic bog spray. Oh.

I'm not opposed to that. This is my idea. My product idea. Bath bomb, but it cleans. Think about that. Ooh. It's not for you, it's for the bath. Wow.

That's a great idea. How does it work? I don't know. I don't know how that stuff works. Don't dirty up for me nearly as much as a sink or a toilet. No. But it would just be nice, like, you got to clean it. You probably shit in the bath a lot less than you shit in the toilet.

Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Hopefully. Factual statement. I hope so. I hope so. What's what Vin Diesel's next action movie is about.

It's called The Toilet Shitter. Michael Cain is coming back again he can't quit Vin and his toilet shitting what are Michael Cain's new body pubby what Michael Cain's shits look like at 92 I have a question for you Jeff all right let's do it what the

are you allergic to wrapping up no kidding you know what's interesting to me about that is that there are five people on this podcast but you do the intro you do the intro you also like that's a little intro How many episodes? Absolutely.

Absolutely. Just the absolute glut of how many you do. Oh, I don't feel like doing it today. Somebody else do it. Take it away at Gavin. Gavin. Thanks for what. Oh, I was going to do it.

No, you do it. I just am surprised he threw the ball to you because you very vocally are like, I don't like doing these things. Oh, dog sham, watch this. Thanks for watching episode of listening to 83. See, see what I'm talking about? Of the Regulation podcast, check out our Patreon at at Regulatryon.com. podcast of the thing.

I think you did a great job, Gavin. As a matter of fact, I'm going to demote myself. I'm no longer going to do the outro. I'm going to leave it up to you from here on out because you're such a professional at it. Thank you so much. Wow. Is there a difference to you about the intro than the outro? Are you trying to extend this podcast?

No, I'm just genuinely curious before. Gavin did a great outro. I just didn't have to be long. It could be yes or no. Is the beginning different than the end, usually? Wow. Okay. See you next time.

Oh, Eric's got it. That's not the official outro. Gavin already did it.