Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1004 | Harrison Butker Calls Out IVF, Abortion & Feminism | Guest: Ron Simmons

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

Today, we’re talking about the sentencing of multiple pro-lifers who are now faced with years in prison for trying to block people from entering abortion clinics. We explain how hypocritical this is for the DOJ as well as why the pro-life movement needs to readjust its priorities. Then, Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker gave a commencement speech at a Catholic college that has stirred up quite a bit of controversy from those claiming he should be kicked off his team for his conservative Christian views. Then, Allie's dad, Ron Simmons, joins to share the latest on election polling, RFK Jr.’s abortion flip-flopping, and what’s going on with the supposed upcoming Biden-Trump debate. Also, Ron answers your questions on politics, family, and parenthood.  Get your tickets for Share the Arrows: https://www.sharethearrows.com/ Get Ron's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Lessons-Little-Red-Wagon/dp/B0BK6XPXLK --- Timecodes: (00:30) Share the Arrows event (08:30) Pro-lifers indicted (28:26) Harrison Butker's commencement speech (34:34) Election updates (42:00) RFK Jr. on abortion / economy (1:00:30) Questions for Allie's dad --- Today's Sponsors: Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' for free activation! My Patriot Supply — prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get your new, lower-price three month Emergency Food Kit at PrepareWithAllie.com. EveryLife — the only premium baby brand that is unapologetically pro-life. EveryLife offers high-performing, supremely soft diapers and wipes that protect and celebrate every precious life. Head to EveryLife.com and use promo code ALLIE10 to get 10% of your first order today! Freedom Project Academy — Take back your child’s education at Freedom Project Academy. Right now, save 10% on tuition when you enroll at Freedom For School dot com, that’s Freedom F-O-R School dot com. --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 701 | Progressive, Pro-Life, & Indicted by the DOJ | Guest: Herb Geraghty https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-701-progressive-pro-life-indicted-by-the-doj-guest/id1359249098?i=1000584694938 Ep 975 | RFK Jr.’s Radical VP Pick https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-975-rfk-jr-s-radical-vp-pick/id1359249098?i=1000650651359 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Pro-life advocates have been sentenced to federal prison for opposing the murder of babies. Also, Chiefs kicker Harrison Bucker told the truth in a commencement address and he is getting so much blowback for it. And also, we've got my dad here to break down everything that's going on in the political world and also answer some of your questions. We've got all that and a big announcement on today's episode of Relatable. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. Oh my goodness, we finally made our big announcement last night. We posted the announcement video everywhere on every channel that we have. The response has just completely exceeded my expectations and goals. I am so excited for this event. If this is the first time that you are hearing me announce it, let me tell you, what's going on. It is in Dallas, Texas on September 28th, but you know what? Instead of just telling you all of the details right here, I am going to play you the video that we put together that explains why exactly I'm hosting this event. Like most moms, I find myself worrying about

the world my children will grow up in. The America of my childhood was patriotic, hardworking, and family-focused. Yes, we had our challenges, but nothing like what we faced today. There was no confusion over whether boys can become girls. We could visit the library and go to school without worrying about being force-fed politics or sexual themes. Our cities were safer and more vibrant. We were moving into a world in which people prioritized the content of someone's character over the color of their skin, their class, or their political affiliation. But we don't live in that world anymore. The age we occupy now is wrought with confusion and chaos.

We face threats to security everywhere we look. War, lawlessness, depraved indoctrination, bloodthirst, division. And there are moments when we just want to go back. Back to the days of our childhood, when things were simpler, better. But there's no going back. There's only four. We have no choice but to face the challenges of our day head on, and we can, because we serve a God who placed us here right now on purpose. God knew the exact obstacles you and I would face, and just as he has for every generation of Christians, he will equip us.

Jesus has given us not a spirit of fear, but of power and courage, courage to stand up against the enemy and to share the arrows with other Christians who serve as a refuge of clarity and courage in an age of chaos, cowardice, and confusion. If you're a Christian woman, you're invited to my Share the Arrows event, where you will be emboldened by some of the most important Christian voices of our day, Rosaria Butterfield, Elisa Childers, and Abby Halberstadt. You'll get to worship with Grammy Award-winning artist Francesca Batastell, and fellowship with like-minded Christian conservative women from all walks of life.

By God's grace, we can take on this battle. Sharing the arrows are opponents aimed at us. Together. Okay, there it is. It is the Share the Arrows event. It is hosted, of course, by me, by Blaze TV. It is sponsored by Carly Jean Los Angeles. And gosh, I'm so excited for the speakers too.

And there is actually one more speaker that we are trying to. get that will be a whole other announcement if we can get her i can't tell you who it is go to share the arrows dot com we do have early bird pricing a lot of you had questions about live streaming and different things like that a lot of great questions i've answered a lot of those on my instagram stories and i will make a highlight of that because those are frequently asked questions that i would love to answer for you but come on either come by yourself that's totally fine or come with a group of friends. We tried to make it as easy as possible to get to. We have a lot of related gals, related pals in Dallas. And so we wanted it to be in a place that's really a hub for a lot of you.

But I'm super, super excited about it. It is going to be amazing to go ahead, snag that early bird pricing at share the arrows.com. And just a warning, I'm going to be talking about this event a lot. From now until September, I will try not to make you weary from talking about it, but I'm really just so amped about it. This is the first ever event that I've hosted. And also, if you don't know, we say that term, share the arrows a lot. And it just means that we're not going to allow a fellow believer to stand alone. And standing up against the progressive onslaught, the progressive assault that we are seeing on our culture, on our children, we're not going to allow them to take the arrows from the enemy alone. We are going to stand up with them and we are going to share the

arrows that the opposition throws at us because we have been given the strength and the power to do so. So that's why this is called Share the Arrows. You are going to be equipped, encouraged, empowered, all of those good things. All right. We've just got one more announcement and that is we are announcing the winners of the giveaway that we initiated with the thousandth episode. episode last Thursday. You will have a message. That's right, Bree. Will they be messaged? They'll be messaged. So Gabrielle, Tara, Hannah, you're laid a bell. Make sure that you check your messages. I don't, I won't say the last names. I don't know. Maybe you don't want your last names publicized on the show. And so if that, if your name is one of those three names, then you

entered this giveaway, make sure to check your messages. And you have won all of the amazing. prizes included in the giveaway. All right, before we get into a conversation with my dad, which, gosh, you're going to love. Y'all always love the segments with my dad. He just gives so much peaceful insight into the craziness and the chaos that's going on. And even though, I mean, the scariest and the depravity of this world is still waging, he has a way of making us feel like it's going to be okay. And that's why I love having him on the show. And that's why y'all love it too. But let's get into some of that craziness that's going on that signifies just how far we've fallen. But also, I don't want it to just discourage you because as Christians,

we do shine brightest in the darkness. It's what we do. The church has traditionally been on the margins of society. And we read that the gates of hell will not even prevail against the church. Even the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. In Hebrews 138, Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So our call as Christians to glorify him to advance his kingdom, to share his gospel, to defend the most vulnerable, namely children, it still stands. It has been our purpose since the very beginning of the church 2,000 years ago. It is still our purpose today. And what we see in this evil society that we live in is we see a punishment that is punishing those who do good and celebrating those who do evil. And these pro-

life advocates who were just sentenced for protesting against the murder of children is a perfect symbol of just the upside down, morally backwards world that we live in now. So let me give you a summary of what I'm talking about. In 2023, several members of the pro-life advocacy group, progressive anti-abortion uprising, P-A-A-U. So let me just say, like, this is an organization that I don't agree with in a lot of ways. They are pro-LGBQ. We don't see eye-to-eye in a lot of ways, but they are anti-abortion, and I thank them for that. They were convicted of the freedom of access to clinic entrances, also known as the Face Act, violations for supposedly blocking access on October 22, 2020 to the Washington Surgy Clinic, operated by the late-term abortionist Caesar Santangelo. You might

remember a few years ago that the five babies that were actually found in the trash outside of this clinic, they were viable babies and that they were clearly late termed. They were between probably 20 and 28 weeks at that point. Like the mother can feel the babies kicking inside the womb. They were found in a lot of cases dismembered. And I don't know how else to say it, except for brutally tortured and torn apart, the skull caved in, which indicates that that late-term baby probably died by a DNX abortion in which this is very graphic, but you have to know what many of these babies every year are going through, that the base of the skull is actually cut open and the abortionist sucks the brain out of the baby as he is taking the baby

out of the womb, out of the vaginal canal. Yes, that still happens in America today. That is a living, squirming baby that is being killed by having their brains sucked out. And we saw these pictures of these babies that were discarded. That is what these people are protesting against. That is what these people are opposing. These people who are a part of progressive anti-abortion uprising, they see the brutality of these babies being murdered. And they're saying, we're going to do something about it. We're going to try to stand against it. That's why they were supposedly blocking the entrance of this horrific murder mill. And then on Tuesday of this week, a U.S. District Court judge today sentenced three of ten defendants who had been convicted of federal civil rights conspiracy

and face act offenses. It prohibits. It prohibits. anyone from obstructing the entrance to an abortion clinic or intimidating or interfering with a woman attempting to have her unborn baby exterminated. Now, this is a very obscure act. It is very rarely enforced, but we've got new management. We've got the Biden administration. We've got a DOJ who is bloodthirsty. They simply are. They're evil. They're wicked. They are going to punish those who do good and they are going to celebrate those, again, who do wickedly. Lauren Hardy, 30 years old, was sentenced to 57 months in prison and three years of supervised release.

John Hinshaw, 69, received 69 years old, received 21 months incarceration and three years of supervised release. William Goodman, 54, was sentenced to 27 months in prison and three years of supervised release. Then just yesterday, four additional defendants were sentenced for both federal civil rights conspiracy and face act offenses. This is according to Christian Post. Erb Garrity. Now, we had herb on our show. Now, at the time, I did not realize that herb is actually a woman. And the only reason I point that out is because I use pronouns that correspond with someone's biological reality because God made us in his image male and female. It is wonderful to be a woman. And

it is wonderful to be a man and I'm not going to lie because God created herb a woman and that is a beautiful reality. And I don't want to deny that by calling her him even though that is her preferred pronouns. So she is a pro-life atheist and she is very brave. Again, she was on our show. We can put the description or we can put the link to that show in this description. You can hear from her yourself. She was also sentenced to 27 months in federal prison. You talk to these people, you see these people, they are gentle people. They are kind. They are loving people.

They are brave people. They're not these kind of violent left-wing activists that you see literally burning down cities and desecrating college campuses and federal property in these major Democrat-run cities. They're not. You can tell that they are on the right side of this. And I just remember from the conversation that I had with Herb that when she said, you know what, I can endure prison because these kids are enduring much worse than that. What she has to go through, she said, what she has to go through as a prisoner is nothing

compared to the pain that these babies are having to go through. Guys, this is an atheist saying this. This is someone who doesn't believe in God. and she is showing more courage, more Christ-like courage than many of the outspoken evangelicals I know, who, by the way, say that they are social justice-minded. They have Micah 6-8 in their bios. They had so much to say in the summer of 2020 about George Floyd and pushed false narratives about systemic racism in this country.

In the name of Christian justice, they will have nothing to say about this. had nothing positive to say about the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the literal systemic slaughter of unborn children is less important to them than perceived racism. That's just the truth. Joan Bell, 76 years old, received 27 months incarceration and three years of supervised release. Jonathan Darnell, 42, was sentenced to 34 months and three years of supervised release. Gene Marshall, 74 years old, was sentenced to 24 months and three years of supervised relief. So we're talking about grandparents here. We're talking about people who are almost 80 years old are going to be placed in prison for supposedly blocking entrance to a clinic, which, like, by the way,

blocking entrance to a clinic where they are murdering babies, like what actually deserves to be punished there? So Lauren Handy, one of the women who was sentenced, was one of those who found the remains of these poor babies. And of course, they publicized it. And it turned into a story. It understandably caused a visceral reaction in a lot of people. Again, as we saw that they were performing clearly these DNX abortions, which are actually illegal. It's illegal to suck the brain out of the baby at an abortion. Now, all. All abortions are brutal and evil and painful. But that particular type of abortion was actually supposed to be banned a long time ago. It used to be more common than it was, like with Leroy Carhart. But they banned it. However, it does seem to be happening at this clinic. And there was an undercover video that live action did all the way back in 2013 with this particular abortionist at this clinic, which led PAAU to.

to believe that illegal activity was happening here, and they were hoping to hold this abortionist accountable. Here's that too. Okay, so has it ever survived? Usually at this point, and your brain is too early to survive, usually. It will expire shortly after birth. It's all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point.

We would not help it. So that is the abortionist at Washington Surgery Clinic saying, yeah, you know, when a baby survives abortion, we just don't help it. So you allow the baby to die. You know that that's common, right? Like we saw, what was it, Ralph Northam, the then governor of Virginia a few years ago, literally say on air on a radio station, oh yeah, if a baby survives abortion, you put it off to the side. And the parents get to decide what to do. Like, I want you to think about how horrific that is, how horrific that is. Jill Stinnak was a nurse who she's testified before Congress, and she said that when she was a nurse, she went into a utility closet.

And there was a little baby 22 weeks old with Down syndrome who had been aborted, who had literally been placed in the utility closet at this clinic to die, but was still breathing in her arms. Those are just the stories we know. So you can't tell me that anything that this group did to protest or to oppose this evil barbaric practice is too much. or deserves to be punished by the state. And so that's where we are. That's where we are as a country. There's no justice for the DC5, those five little babies who were brutally murdered by this evil abortionist. But there is so-called justice, again, against those who opposed it.

and the only thing that gives me comfort just as disheartening as it is the only thing that gives me comfort is the knowledge that one day Jesus is going to make all things right. Now, I hope for justice in this life. I hope that we win an election this November and not to say that that will change everything for the better because as I'll talk about with my dad, we don't have a fully pro-life candidate, but I do hope that when we get better people in place in the DOJ, better people in the White House, better policy makers at the top. And now I think that conservatives have woken up to the fact of how hard we have to push for the things that we want, the things that will turn our country around. Like, I am hopeful that we will see better definitions of justice

coming from the federal government, hopefully. That's what I hope. And because we have to hope for that, right? Because politics matter, because policy matters, because people matter. Like, these babies torn apart. That is a policy decision. It's a policy decision that we allow babies to be murdered. That is a choice that we have made, that voters have made, not you and I, but that voters have made. Policy matters because people matter. Policy affects people and people matter. That's why we have to care about elections. It's not enough to just say Jesus is coming back. But as I said, that is a supreme comfort. Psalm 37, go read that.

The evildoers will not last. Wickedness will not last. Injustice will not last. That he is going to make all things right. That he's not just sitting on his proverbial hands, letting everything happen. That's not what's going on here. His anger is kindling.

His wrath is being stored up and it will be poured out. The evil one, Satan. will be destroyed forever. There will be perfect peace. There will be vindication for every single baby that has been murdered. They will be vindicated. God will avenge. So that's what we have to trust that God hates murder, that he hates, scripture tells us, the shedding of innocent blood. He hates the injustice, the evil partiality that is going on here. He hates it. And shame. on every single social justice activist so-called Christian who stands up against every single example of perceived discrimination or perceived injustice or perceived racism and not

against this. And not against this. That just shows me, you want to go with the popular narratives, you want to go with whatever is going to get you approval by the left, whatever is going to get you an opportunity to write an op ed in the New York Times, whatever is going to get you applause from the world. That's what you're for. And I can't say that I respect you at all. And honestly, pastors, you got to be talking about this. It's okay to get political when politics intersects with theology, right? Like, this is a theological issue. This is a biblical issue. We are talking about the slaughter of children. It's not primarily political for us. For us, it is biblical. I think that you should read this story from the pulpit, and you absolutely have every right in the office of

pastor with your platform of the pulpit to condemn this administration, to condemn at the very least this action and say that this is a perfect example of calling good, evil, and evil good. And I just pray for regeneration and revival and a reawakening in this country. I really do. I pray for God's mercy in that way. And again, I just pray for the courage of Christians that this would embolden us. I know that what the administration desires to do through this is to actually scare us. is to say, see, if you stand up against murder, we'll come after you too. We'll take everything away from you too. But we can't allow it to have that effect.

We actually have to allow it to embolden us because these people, even some of them who don't believe in God, they counted the cost and they decided that it was worth it, standing up for these babies. And one thing that I just want to say, too, is that, and I should have said this probably at the beginning, but these people who have been arrested, they were nonviolent. Okay, this was a nonviolent sit-in. This is according to Lila Rose, who has been reporting on this story closely. She said while Lauren, this is Lauren Handy, has passed out roses and offered counseling and resources at many abortion facilities, Lauren and fellow defendants were convicted of violating the FACE Act, a law that has primarily been used to penalize pro-life activism for their participation in a non-distance. violent sit-in at Santangelo's Washington, D.C., late-term abortion facility.

The mangled bodies of five nearly full-term infants were found at the same facility, as we've already talked about two years later. Many had injuries consistent with illegal activity as we talked about the DNACs, such as as partial birth abortion and infanticide. This conviction and sentence is completely unjust and will be appealed. So praying for justice for them. Pray for them. Pray for herb, please.

And all of these people who don't know Christ, pray for them that. he would soften their hearts that they would come to know the Lord. And this is also just an incredible quote from the testimony of the 69-year-old pro-life activist John Hinshaw, who was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison, who has spent his life serving the homeless, the addicted, the disabled. He said this. Oh, this makes you want to cry. He said, my wife knows that she carries our children from their beginning through eternity, but she knows that I cannot share the same bond because I am a man. There's a special maternal bond between child and mother. My granddaughter was born at 32 weeks gestation. He then goes on to say, how is it that my granddaughter is a treasure and the others are

trash? There is a reason why today's gospel reading is to lay down one's life for his friends. This is not a coincidence. I am sorry that I have failed in my vocation as a father to protect children. I am sorry to this court that it has failed in its vocation to protect its nation's children. So he is just saying, I wish I could have done more. The bravery and the courage and the love of these people, just pray for them and pray for justice. All right, we don't have time to get into the whole next story that I wanted to discuss. And that is the kicker for the chiefs, Harrison Butker. He gave a graduation speech at Benedict.

college over the weekend. He is getting absolutely reamed for it because he is calling out Joe Biden, for example, for not living up to Catholic doctrines on things like abortion. Here's dot 3.5. Our own nation is led by a man who publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith, but at the same time is delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion rally. He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I'm sure to many people, it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice. He is not alone. From the man behind the COVID lockdowns to the people pushing dangerous gender ideologies onto the youth of America,

they all have a glaring thing in common. They are Catholic. This is an important reminder that being Catholic alone doesn't cut it. But if we are going to be men and women for this time in his, history. We need to stop pretending that the Church of Nice is a winning proposition. Wow, wow, wow. I mean, a lot of good things said there. Obviously, I'm not Catholic, but I appreciate how he is describing the discrepancy between what some Catholics do, especially in the highest levels of government and what the Catholic Church actually teaches.

Obviously, as a Protestant, there are many people on my side who call themselves Christians and yet they are pro-choice. Now, what's interesting is that even though the Catholic Church itself has been solid on this, according to Pew Research, only 42% of Catholics believe that abortion should be illegal in most or all cases versus 55% of Protestants. Now, I believe both of those numbers are too low, but I appreciate that Buckker, as a Catholic himself, is saying, oh, there's a problem that is going to. on here. He also included a call to masculinity. He said, as men, we set the tone of the culture

when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence that we see all around the nation. He is right about that. Then he addresses women. You, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of you are sitting here about to cross this stage and thinking about all the promotions and titles you're going to get in your career, but he talks about the importance and the beauty of motherhood. Well, people are very, very upset about this. On Monday, May 13th, the petition was created on change.org demanding that the Kansas City Chiefs dismiss Herrick & Buckker for discriminatory remarks. Dumb. The petition had 97,448 signatures as of earlier. Apparently, it was homophobic,

anti-trans, anti-abortion, and racist. You don't have to keep selling me on. You don't have to keep selling me on it. I was already for the speech. You don't have to keep trying to convince me. I already liked it. He says, or the petition goes on to say that we demand accountability from our sports figures who should be role models promoting respect for all people. He didn't say anything disrespectful. Maybe he did. He disrespected your ideology. But I loved it because what he said, was true. Besides the one prominent petition on change dollar were calling for the chiefs to dismiss Buckker, there are nine petitions that have been created to support him. That is good. I also saw some people from example, from, for example, like barstool sports, calling out some of the other athletes who are supporting him and are cheering him on. That's because they are all silly, silly people who

have not thought through anything of consequence at all, even if I like some of the their like sports and funny commentary like most people in this world just go for the easiest thing what is most popular and this is an example of someone who has chosen not to do that he did not have to stand up here and say all of this he knew that there would be backlash he knew that he's making a sacrifice he knew that it's unpopular he knew that there would be people calling for the end of his career threatening him he knew that and yet he has continued to make these unpopular remarks in the name of truth and good for him good for him we need more men, more dads, willing to stand up and do the same thing. So kudos to him. I'm very, very

thankful for that. I'm also thankful to have a dad myself who embodied and who symbolizes, I think, a lot of just what is needed in this world today when it comes to strong dads and strong leaders and men. I am married also to chief relay to bro who embodies all of this so well. And I'm so thankful for that. I know all of you are very thankful for the strong men in your life who, like Harrison Bucker, are willing to stand up in a variety of different ways in all their different spheres and do and say the right thing. Today, we do have my dad on and he is here to explain and break down so much of what is going on. So without further ado, here he is. Dad, thanks so much for joining us again. I appreciate it. We're glad to have you. You know, is this show what? A

thousand and three or four now. Yep. A thousand and three or four. I actually don't know which one either. But a thousand and four. Thousand four. Good. Well, congratulations, by the way.

Thank you. Thank you very much. That is awesome. I'm not surprised that you had a thousand things to talk about. At least. I know, but I am very, very proud of you. Thank you so much. Okay.

People love my segments with my dad. Actually, in the 1,000th episode, one of the voicemails we played was from a related bro who was like, as a girl dad, I love seeing y'all relationship. So that's always sweet. But we're talking about politics today. Let's first talk about the polling that we've seen. According to the New York Times, they were probably very sad to report this. Trump is leading in five key states right now. Nearly 70% of voters say that the country's political and economic systems need major changes or even need to be torn down entirely. Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18 to 29 year olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group

gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Now, Trump does have some vulnerabilities, even though in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, he is winning. For example, these vulnerabilities are 64 percent of voters in battleground states that abortion should be always or mostly legal, including 44 percent of Mr. Trump's own supporters. 13% of the voters who say they voted for Mr. Biden last time do not plan to do so, or they don't plan to do so again. It's because of the war in Israel and Palestine. So lots of information there. What do you make of it? Well, again, it's kind of like I've said before, I see these, and it is, this is not a, it's not a national election. I have to remind people

that it's a 50 state election. But it does still concern me that even when you go through all of the things that Biden is upside down on, that when you put everything together and look at a national poll, that it's very, very close in a race that should not be close, okay? And that Biden should be way further behind. Oh, he should be way further behind. Do you think just because of the state of the economy. Just because if you look at individual policies like immigration, the economy, those types of things, he is, Trump is way ahead of him on those issues. Got it. Yeah. And so if those issues are important to Americans, which I think they are, all right, then he should be further ahead. But the reason he's not is because in spite of those

issues, there are people that would agree with him on the issues but don't like him personally for whatever reason, whether it's their own personal knowledge or just what they've heard through the media, that they're still willing to hold their nose essentially and vote for Biden, which is very, very, very scary. Now, I do think it's encouraging, though, that states that Trump lost in 2020 that he's significantly ahead in, Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, that's a big deal. If he wins those three states, he will be the president of the United States. There's no question about that.

Because, not because those three states will make all the difference, but because if he's winning those three states, it's going to go across the country. That's what happens, right? Yeah. Now, he may not win Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, but if he wins Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona, he'll win at least one of those. Yeah. It's only Wisconsin. That's the only swing state where Biden is ahead right now.

Which doesn't really make any sense, because those are really pretty conservative people. Yeah. I mean, I've had friends there. I've been up there multiple times. Those are pretty red, white, and blue Americans. Your brother and I went to the Ryder Cup there a couple years ago. And it was incredible. You know, it was just, so it's like, it's a weird scenario.

Now, the abortion thing, I do want to touch on that just a second. Because I do believe that it's a true statement that most people in America would say that abortion up to some point in time should be legal, okay? I disagree with that. You disagree with that. But I do believe, because that's what, that's just the way it makes people feel comfortable that they're kind of balancing it out a little bit right now. Now, when you narrowed it down and you got all the facts in front of them as to what time that should be, I don't, I don't think there's any agreement on that whatsoever.

And so that question that was in that poll you just talked about, it should be nearly or whatever. That people don't even, so what one person is doing saying, well, yeah, if it's at, if it's at six weeks, then I'm okay with it. Well, the other person that answered the question is, well, if it's at 35 weeks, I'm okay with it. And they're all lumped in the same. That's why it's misleading. It's very misleading. When it says, most people believe that abortion should be legal in some or all cases. Like you said, some might be six weeks. It could be 40 weeks. And so, yeah, you've got, I really think that when you look at it, when you go down to it, most people are most comfortable only in the first trimester. Now, I still disagree with that, but I think that's actually where most people are.

And I think that if, given the facts, most people would move to six weeks being the limitation. Right. The heartbeat. I really do believe the heartbeat does make a difference to people. And before that, they might be easier to justify it. You and I don't agree with that at all. But so that question is very misleading. Yeah. But I do think the Democrats are we'll try to make hail on that. And now Trump and Carrie Lake and some other Republicans, that's why they're kind of coming out and equivocating and saying, okay, look, we got to be moderate on this. 16 weeks he's even saying for a federal ban, which is way, way, way too late. For me, of course, I think it's all wrong.

But that's the stance that he's trying to take right now because he understands this is a hot button issue that according to the New York Times, even 44% of people who vote for Trump, they don't want it to be completely banned. So he's trying to reach those people. I would rather, maybe this is too idealistic for me, I would rather us simply do a better job as Republicans making our case. I mean, Democrats are not afraid, and we'll get into this in a second with RFK, they're not afraid to say, no, I think it should all be legal.

And yet on the other side, there's no Republican almost who's willing to say, well, I think it should all be illegal. And so I just wish that we would do a better job of saying, no, you're the extremist for believing in baby murder. not me. I think that's right. I think what they have to turn the discussion away from women's rights to genocide, right? And probably not using that term, but you understand what I mean. I mean, as you know, we care more about puppies than we do about unborn babies. And I also believe in that poll that some people would say that I'm against all abortion other than rape and incest.

Okay. And so that's, they're included in the group that says, I still believe. So it's very misleading and your listeners should not be disheartened if they have the same positions that you and I have. That's the position to have. Don't think that you're way out of the mainstream because I don't really think that you're that far out of the mainstream at all. I think it's getting closer to us than it is to them. And even if you are outside of the mainstream or you're swimming upstream, that is an okay place to be because most people haven't really thought through most of these issues fully. And those of us who really have and have really considered it from a biblical perspective, we will always be different than most of the world. And that's okay.

The fact of the matter is, though, is that Trump is the most pro-life candidate that we've got. His actions have proven that. His words aren't as good, but his actions of who he's nominated and the policies that he has, there's no question. As soon as he's elected, I promise you, in my opinion, that he'll take all the stuff that the military's been doing relating to that, I think all that will be gone. Yeah. Day one. And, you know, I think most people have probably seen Biden is the most extreme because he believes

and through all nine months subsidized by the taxpayer for any reason without any apology. And then RFK is kind of a middle ground on that. Yeah. Because at one point, he did say, I think it was almost a year ago now, oh, I believe that it should be restricted after the first three months, which is probably what he really believes. But his campaign manager after that said, oh, no, no, no, he misspoke. He doesn't really believe that. So now he's going on a media tour saying, yeah, I actually think that it should be legal always. Here's a thought three. There's no woman who has a bit, who gets pregnant,

carries that baby for eight months and then decides to have an abortion for some frivolous reason. And in that kind of case, and nobody in their right mind would do that. In those kind of cases, there's some kind of, those very, very rare cases where that happens. There's always some kind of extenuating circumstances that I don't feel prepared to turn that over to the government. So that's his case for making even late-term abortion legal, even though it happens at least 10,000 times a year. for a variety of reasons. Before I'll get your comments, let's go ahead and play SOT 5,

where he's saying this again. So in other words, keeping it as is, with Roe versus Wade having been overturned and leaving it up to the states to determine if and when a woman can have an abortion?

No, I wouldn't leave it to the states. Right. I would... You would say completely... It's up to the woman. I believe we should leave it to the woman. We shouldn't have government involved. Even if it's full term.

even if it's full term. Okay. Okay, so that's Biden's position. No matter what, all nine months aborting of 40, I was pregnant for 42 weeks. At that point, he thinks abortion should be legal. That is, I know he doesn't believe that personally. If you just look at the history of his family, first of all, he's got like seven or eight brothers and sisters. Yeah.

But his mother, one of the strongest Catholics in that family rose. and so I just believe he's pandering, you know, because he doesn't want the women against him. And it's just, I mean, it's murder. I mean, it's just nothing but how anybody couldn't see that as murder is just incredible. And so, yeah, he's right in line with Biden on that issue. Now, I think he's tried to walk it back a little bit, but does it matter now? Once it's out there, you've said it. That's going to be, that's just a big mistake on his part.

He got afraid as a politician as opposed to being a, a brave policymaker. Right. What do you think RFK's play is? Because I thought at one point that he was trying to appeal more to the conservative moms who just really don't like the vaccine, the COVID vaccine and the COVID policy. He seemed like the kind of guy who didn't care what the poll said. He was just going to do what he believed to do what's right.

But with his VP pick, with his comments about abortion, I'm wondering who he is going for it. I guess he's going for the liberal woman. Do you think that's going to work? Well, I think he believes that the true anti-vaxxers, that that's their number one issue, and they may vote for him anyway, okay? Because they're probably more libertarian than they are conservative, all right? And then he's got to fill up the rest, which is actually, for those of us that want the Republican to win, that's actually good for us because he's going to fill up the rest with progressives, right? And that's why. Biden and them don't want him involved in anything, right, at all.

So I think that's probably where he's getting. Now, he knows he knows he's not going to win. He's trying to make a big statement about, you know, there are a large group of people kind of like Ross Perrault did that don't agree with either side on some important issues. Yeah. And he would have preferred not getting into the abortion issue, but you're not going to avoid it in this election.

Yeah, which is one reason I think he won't come on this show. He said, but then I learned, as you said, he tried to walk it back a little bit. But then I learned I was wrong that there are actually a huge amount comparatively of elective abortions in the third trimester, which is just an absolute tragedy. I'm sure he already knew that. But in my belief at that time is that at that time you have a wholly formed viable child and the state has some interest in protecting that baby. Well, he is trying hard to like thread the needle. But yeah, you've already said it. Typical politician and it is baby murder.

Okay, let's get into some of these other issues before we talk about the debate that's coming up. So we've got abortion where each candidate is on that. We'll see how that plays out. What about immigration? This is a big issue for both sides of the aisle. Well, this is really, if it wasn't so important and serious, it'd be funny watching the Biden administration, you know. Because what, you know, they, they, of course, they've had open borders. There's been, I just, I just wrote this down.

3.2 million crossed illegally that they know about, okay, in 2023. 3.2 million, all right? And, and that's all under Biden's policies, no question about it. And that's just through the ones that they could, you know, that got, that went through the border patrol, as supposed to. And so what they're trying to do. do now is that, well, we're going to do an executive order so that we can, you know, send people back quicker that obviously don't qualify for asylum. Well, they don't need an executive order to do that. They could do all of that. And they could, they could do the remain in Mexico. And then they come

through as their asylum, you know, date comes up. That's how they overturned or they reversed the remain in Mexico policy, right? Absolutely did. And then they're, they say, well, they're, we had this bipartisan bill, which is how Republicans get suckered in sometimes because you got one or two Republicans that voted for it and probably had really, really good intentions. I believe James Langford is a good person and trying to come to a good answer to something. But, and now all they're doing is using that as a political stunt against the Republicans. Because that bill itself even said we're going to let five thousand, we're not going to do anything until five thousand people a day come in. And that's, again, those are the 5,000 that come through that they see.

Yeah. Not the 5,000 or 20,000 they don't see. So I want people to understand that the Biden administration doesn't want to do anything about this. In fact, if they really did, HR2 passed the house. And that is a much more restrictive, you know, close the border first and then revamp our laws on how we allow people to come in for work visas and things like that. HR2 is sitting. on Senator Schumer's bill on his desk, and he will not bring it up. Yeah. Okay, he will not bring it up. So don't say that the Republicans aren't interested in doing it and doing something about it.

But I still think when you go, when I talk to people that are running for office, no matter where they are in the country alley, the number one issue is immigration. It doesn't matter what state they're in, which is really kind of interesting. It's not just the border states. Yeah. It's everywhere. So that's the Republican issue, that and the economy that they have to run on. I mean, what is the solution, though?

like I find myself getting more, I don't know, intense on immigration than I was a few years ago. When Trump started talking about the wall, I was kind of one of those people that was like, eh, you know, is that the right approach? I could see how some of his rhetoric is a little harsh. Maybe the wall isn't exactly right. And I'm like, now do whatever you have to do. Deport them all. I don't care. one crime committed by an illegal alien is one crime too many. All crimes committed by illegal immigrants are preventable crimes, unlike crimes committed by citizens. So I'm like, I don't care what you do, barbed wire, booies. But the Biden administration is literally coming to the border, removing even the least restrictive

boundaries that we have in place and then saying, well, we're trying to do something about it and Republicans are just getting in our way. when their efforts to do something are counterproductive. They're actually just allowing more people in. Their goal is, and they've seen it in a few states and cities, their goal is that they know that if they can persist long enough, that eventually there could be an acquiescence on either giving them amnesty or just allowing them to vote since they live here.

And some cities, you know, we're already doing that. The answer is secure the border first. So, you know, it's kind of like when you're digging a hole and you're afraid it's getting to eat, the first thing to do is stop digging. So the first thing to do is secure the border. But at the same time, and you can do two things at once, come up with a work visa program that allows people, because we need some of these people to come work on a temporary basis. Like we used to do this all the time, six months, right? They'd come and work in the produce out in California. or they become like the person that does a lot of our landscape at our house, the company that does

that, his stone mason people, okay? They only come up here for six months, and then they go home to Mexico and work in six months. That's what they want to do. They can make the most money doing that. That's their homeland. They like that. And then also have a path to be here legally from a long-term standpoint that's not so complicated. It shouldn't take 16, 17 years to do that if you meet the qualifications.

that we put in place. So, but you can do both of it. But the first thing is always secure the border. Stop digging. Yeah. If you're worried about the hole, right? So that's the first thing. But I want people to understand that don't,

whatever the Biden administration says, just remember, 3.2 million in 2023. My gosh. It's crazy. Okay, let's move on to the economy because this is another one that both sides of the aisle, they care about a lot and they're feeling it. Well, I wish you had the clip where

Biden says that when he took over, he was at 9% inflation, that Trump left him with 9% annualized inflation. When even his own White House has said, no, that wasn't, he misspoke on that. When people misunderstood, it was 1.4% when Biden took office, okay? The most recent inflation numbers, 1.4%. Now, it was going to go up because people coming out of COVID, I get all of that. However, just a couple of things that people, I'm sure, are feeling already. I know that we feel it.

We go the store. And I'm sure you guys do, too, is that, like, for example, a dozen eggs. In 2020, $1.51, right now, average $3. Doubled the price. Doubled. It bread, okay, buying a loaf of bread. That's up 36% of bread. Cost of gasoline up 50%. Mortgage, a home mortgage, usually the largest purchase anybody in America makes, the mortgage rates are up 250%. They were 2.6%. When, Trump left office, now they're average 6.4% mortgage. So do an inflation or economics for dummies, what causes inflation?

How is Biden affecting inflation? Because that's what I hear from the Democrat side. Well, it has nothing to do with Biden and his policies. Oh, yeah. All the money, when you dump more money into a society, which remember we, and Trump started some of this, there's no question about that. But then he quit it and Biden kept putting more money into the, you know, into the economy, right? And so either through increased tax deductions for people that were, you know, middle class and lower, and actually everybody, or actual checks that came out, okay, or student loan forgiveness, all of those types of things and where he's spending money.

When you put more money into an economy, people have more to spend. So if I'm selling you something, if I'm selling, you know, widgets, then I can raise the price on widgets because I know you're willing to pay it. Right. That's what happens. And that's, that's, it's exactly what happened. Because the people that, the people that are making eggs today, okay, that are, that sell eggs and whatever, they are, their cost have not gone up, $3, you know, double. Their costs haven't doubled.

But because, because there's more demand, because people have the more money instead of buying, you know, a dozen eggs every two weeks, they can now buy them every week, you know, that's, that's what causes it. Yeah. It's amazing to me that there is so much animosity towards Trump as a person that that would, that that animosity would trump people's concerns about something like the economy and immigration. Their own family's well-being. That's the part that's crazy.

It's so tangible. Yeah. And it's so immediate, which tells me, and, you know, there's no reason in looking backwards. It is what it is. But we picked the wrong person in the primary because I do think if you would have chosen a less polarizing person who aligned with Trump on most these issues, they would be far and away. This race would be so over. It's not even funny in my opinion as well. I know other people that are listening won't agree with us on that one. It's just true, though. But it is just true. Now, I do think we have to credit Trump as a conservative movement for

being willing to stand up and say things that a lot of people in the past 50 years haven't been willing to say. Yeah. And you know what? He didn't have to do any of that. His life could have been pretty darn easy. It's true. But I do give him credit for doing that for whatever reason. It may be all misogynistic for all I know but he didn't. I don't think so. I mean, especially about immigration. He started a new conversation about immigration that wasn't being had and I do appreciate that about him. Legal issues. There's a lot going on this week for him. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Well, you know, the prosecution is going to probably wrap up their case in the next few days. They had the big Stormy Daniels interview and Michael Cohen and, you know, not I'd say interview. They

had to put them on the stand. And that's probably the strongest point that the other people made. But the problem is, here's the problem the prosecution has, is that the facts are pretty true. Stormy Daniels got money, right? Right. But there's no evidence, nothing out there other than Cohen, who is a convicted felon, by the way, says that that was about the political race.

There's reasonable doubt. least that he did that to protect his family or his business reputation, right? Because that happens all the time. And there's nothing illegal about that. The only way it becomes illegal if there's a fact that he did that only for the political race, and that's a federal election law violation, which by the way, he's not even being charged of, which is crazy on top of that. So we'll see how that goes. I still think the chance of him being convicted in that is greater than 50-50 because of where it is and who the judge is and who the jury is. But on the appeals, I think it'll be thrown out. The good news is, is on the documents case that Jack Smith, I think, is the prosecutor about having the documents.

You know, he and Biden both had them. They decided not to even charge Biden because he was a doddling old man. Remember the investigator, the inspector's report? That's not, I don't think that's going to come up before the election. If not, it'll be way late. And the one in Georgia turned out to be a disaster for the prosecution. And they've kind of delayed that one as well. So I think the one in New York is the main one that.

you know, that the media will hold on to for a while. Do you think that's going to have any effect on how people vote? I don't. I think 100% of the people know how they're going to vote already on that issue. Yep. I think so too. All right. You want to get to some questions that people said?

There's a ton, and I'm sorry, we're not going to be able to get through all of them. And some of them, we already answered. We can do it another time, too. Let's see. Yeah, we can definitely keep some of these and answer some of them later. Here's one. Try to answer concisely because this is a big question. Israel, Ukraine.

Why do we fund them? This is what this person asked. We fund them because we don't want to fight. We don't want to have war on our shores, so therefore we help hold on to democracy across the world. Okay. That's it. If we can have democracy in other places and those strongholds, we'd rather have that than them landing on the shores of North Carolina.

Do you think that there's a limit to how much we should be involved and how much we should fund other countries, especially when there seems to be things like our border that don't get as much excitement from our Congress? Like when we passed the last package to send more funding to Ukraine, you had all these people in Congress on the floor waving the Ukrainian flags. Why isn't there that vigor for protecting our own border? Well, because the Ukrainian thing has very little effect on their next election, okay? Yeah.

And our border does, so that's easy. But I do, the limit alley is all based on what that country itself is willing to put into place, right? What are they willing to do? It's kind of what Trump has said about NATO that time, right? And I mean, he's changed all that about, look, if you're going to be in NATO, you've got to put your own money up because we were funding almost the whole thing. So I think we should look at, okay, how committed is Ukraine, okay, and how important it is, it's not so much helping them as it is stopping Russia, right? And Israel, I think that we have an obligation, and I think for a lot of people, that's a moral obligation.

Even our politicians would, I'd say a lot of them believe it's a moral obligation to protect them. And they are the only democracy in the Middle East. Mm-hmm. Real democracy. Mm-hmm. Okay. One person asked this, and we forgot to get to it. What you think about the upcoming debate, CNN will host it on June 27th.

It is Trump and it is Biden. Trump's campaign is also pushing for two more debates. in July and August. Here is our commander-in-chief Biden challenging Trump. This is SOT 6. Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hadn't shown up for debate. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.

Well, make my day, pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays. Well, first of all, I do like the sarcasm. It's pretty funny. It is pretty funny. But he lies in there.

multiple times. He didn't, Donald Trump didn't lose two debates to him. Now I do think in the first debate Donald Trump overstepped when he shouldn't have.

I think so too. That made him look really bad. But in the second debate, he was very strong. Also, he hasn't tried to avoid debating Donald Trump. So to say that he hadn't shown up, I'm not sure what he's talking about.

He hasn't avoided debating Biden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't, you know, I'll still be surprised if Biden shows up. Oh, me too.

I really will. Now, they have put a bunch of restrictions on this whole thing, which could blow it up, right? Oh, right. They want the Trump people to blow it up. So that's why they put all these restrictions, right, where it can only be CNN, ABC or NBC. Right. You can't have an audience. No audience, which I think it's hilarious.

The limited news outlets, candidate mics must mute after time expires, which might help Trump, by the way. It might help Trump because that first debate. I knew it was over because even though I don't care about hurting Biden's feelings, I know how it was perceived. It was perceived like Trump was a bully and that Joe Biden, who is not this compassionate person, came across that way. Here's what Donald Trump said. And you know what? I've just learned to laugh at this kind of stuff. It's just funny.

Crooked Joe Biden is, because remember it was crooked Hillary. Now it's crooked Joe Biden, which is fair, is the worst debater I've ever faced. He can't put two sentences together. Crooked is also just crooked. is also the worst president in the history of the United States by far. That's probably true. It's time for a debate so that he can explain to the American people his highly destructive open border policy, new and ridiculous EV mandates.

That's the electric vehicle mandates, the allowance of crushing inflation, high taxes, and is really weak foreign policy, which is allowing the world to, quote, unquote, catch on fire. I am ready and willing to debate Crooked Joe. At the two proposed times in June and September, I would strongly recommend more than two debates and for excitement purposes, a very large venue, although Biden is supposedly afraid of crowds. That's only because he doesn't get them. Just tell me when, I'll be there, quote unquote, let's get ready to rumble. I think you should have it in Yankee Stadium, in one of those boxing ring things, right? Let's do it. Yeah. Oh, man. It will probably be the most watched debate.

I'm excited for it. I'm pumped. I mean, it'll be, it will be interesting. Now, if I'm nervous. If I'm Trump's people, I don't take everything they put in there as those criteria. I'm going to fight back on that. I'm going to get whatever it is. It's important to him to get back on that. Yeah. Okay. Switching gears a little bit.

Well, okay, let's do one political one and one non-political one. How do you hold faith, this person asks, in our country, when it feels like all the candidates are a joke? Well, you have to have faith that in Daniel 2, 21 and 22, where it says that God sets up the kings when they're up and when they're down. And I remember when I was running for political office my first time my friend Scott Turner and I, when we would meet for breakfast, that would be our verse that we would remind each other of that. We do the work, but at the end of the day, it's God.

And so God has used many, many, many non-believers in him for his good and for the good of his people. And he's also had many people that supposedly believed in him that failed him. And so just God is in control. And it's our obligation to stay engaged, though. We cannot lose so much hope that we refuse to engage. That's what Satan always wants to remember. And screw tape letters, he didn't really want them to commit a bunch of sins. He just didn't want them to do anything. Right. And that's where Satan lives. What do you think are some different challenges that this is another question that parents face today that you and mom didn't face? And what do you think about that?

Scary because I have kids and grandkids, obviously. But I do think that we face things that our parents didn't face. So every generation is like that, all right? The answer to that is always making sure that you're grounded. it in your faith because the biblical truths have stayed the same. It's the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Now, how they relate to how you can relate that to what you're going through, like social media or whatever it is with your child, or then you have to be able to, you know, dig deep and there will be, there will be theologians that can, you know, like what you're doing

here, Allie, a lot of days, is helping people understand how that relates to today. And so what I do in my world and what like people in my generation, that have kids and grandkids that are going through this. First of all, you know, the first thing we do is have to get on our knees because there's a limited amount that we can do temporally here on earth. We have to make sure that, you know, we help our children raise their children up in the way that they should go by providing that, you know, assistance when we can and examples when we can. And, you know, whether it's for your girls or Justin's boys, the grandparents still have a big role in that, right?

They have an, well, I say a big role, an important role, put it that way, an important role in that. Yeah. And so I think it's all about making sure that you believe that the Bible is the same yesterday to day and tomorrow. Yeah. We'll do this last question, and I'll ask it because I got two of basically the same questions from two different people back to back.

Both of these women said that they grew up with an absent dad, but they want to want their life, how they parent to be different, but they don't really have a good example. That's actually something that you talk about some in your book. It wasn't the exact same situation for you, but you have some empathy for that, for people who find themselves in that position. So what would you say to them? So these are ladies that grew up without a dad at home, right? Yes. But now they're married with kids. With kids. And so they're really not totally sure how even their husband should be because they didn't have that example, right? That's kind of what you're saying.

Well, I think what you have to do is assuming that their husbands are godly people, okay, that you have to believe that God will shape and mold that person, okay, because you can't be your husband's father, right? But I also believe that it, that your kid's father. Right. You have to realize that you're the mom, okay, even though your mom was, the mom and the dad, you're the mom. You're not the dad, okay? And so don't try to be the dad. You just be the mom. And then you just pray and allow God to work for the dad. But what you should

expect is what the Bible says. You should expect your husband not to provoke your children. You should expect your husband to, yes, discipline, okay? And y'all should talk about that and agree on that. and then you should encourage your kids, okay, to make sure that they are respecting their father and that they're utilizing as they grow older some wisdom and experience that he might have, right? And it's something that she never knew to experience. I didn't, I had similar challenges, okay?

What I finally had to realize is that for me and for these ladies, the father in heaven has told us that he cares more about us than anybody here on earth could. So I had to start addressing him in my prayers when I would write them down as father. And that was important to me. And that's a beautiful thing about God, is that he does say that he is the father to the fatherless. And that is just a beautiful. But I feel for them because it's hard.

Yes, it is. It is. But God does offer that redemption. And I'm thankful for that. So thank you so much, as always, for your political. insight and I know you know you didn't ask me to talk about this but he does talk about his life and growing up but then also his adulthood and his journey in the business world in his book life lessons from the little red wagon and we can put a link in the description of this episode

if you want to check that out it's really really good and just encouraging for all the related bros out there. Like this could be a really good Father's Day gift, too. It's just encouraging to hear someone's story, the challenge, the obstacles. I think it's easy to see someone else's life and think, oh, everything went fine for them. It was a straight line from A to B. No one's story is really like that. And so I encourage you to check that out. And again, we'll link it. Thanks so much, Dad. Thank you, Ellie. Great job. Okay.