Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1025 | Chrissy Teigen Cries Tears of Joy Over Abortion

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

Today, we discuss Chrissy Teigen and Kamala Harris' recent comments on abortion. A few years ago, Teigen announced she had a miscarriage. After the reversal of Roe vs. Wade, she announced this miscarr...iage was actually an abortion, causing confusion. The Biden/Harris campaign also recently put out an ad that features a woman who claims she was denied miscarriage treatment due to the Dobbs decision. Is this true? What is the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion, and why do abortion activists often conflate the two? And what actually happens during an abortion? We also share an encouraging moment from a group of Nigerian Christians after tragedy. Get your tickets for Share the Arrows: https://www.sharethearrows.com/ --- Timecodes: (00:40) Nigerian Christians praise Jesus (09:24) Chrissy Teigen’s new abortion comments (25:25) Obstacles post-abortion (30:21) What happens during an abortion (41:55) White House conflates miscarriage & abortion (46:48) Confusion about abortion laws (48:17) Abortion in elections (52:16) Sign up for BlazeTV & Share the Arrows --- Today's Sponsors: We Heart Nutrition — nourish your body with research-backed ingredients in your vitamins at WeHeartNutrition.com and use promo code ALLIE for 20% off. Pre-Born — will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to Preborn.com/ALLIE. Jase Medical — get up to a year’s worth of many of your prescription medications delivered in advance. Go to JaseMedical.com today and use promo code “ALLIE". BlazeTV- Subscribe to BlazeTV to get uncensored news and exclusive content. Use code ALLIE at https://BlazeTV.com for $20 off. --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 762 | No, Jessa Duggar Seewald Did Not Have an Abortion https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-762-no-jessa-duggar-seewald-did-not-get-an-abortion/id1359249098?i=1000602182351 Ep 682 | My Response to Chrissy Teigen & The Truth About “Little Demon” | Guest: Hilary Kennedy https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-682-my-response-to-chrissy-teagen-the-truth-about/id1359249098?i=1000580226252 Ep 831 | Chrissy Teigen’s Surrogacy Announcement & No More Affirmative Action | Guest: Steve Deace https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-831-chrissy-teigens-surrogacy-announcement-no-more/id1359249098?i=1000618787746 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chrissy Teigen joined Kamala Harris at the White House to promote abortion ahead of the election and offered their fair share of abortion propaganda. We are going to refute their absolutely demonic nonsense on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends of Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Alley. Check out that's good ranchers.com code Alley. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. We've got a lot to get into today. But I wanted to start with this incredible clip that I've seen circulating on X.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And we did our best to research the full context of what's going on here. But even if we don't know every detail of this story, what happened before and after this clip, it shows us the hope that we have in Christ and the common. and the common cause, the common joy that we share with believers all over the world. This video is of Nigerian Christians singing in the midst of rubble after radical Islamists burned down their church in Nigeria. It resulted in five deaths. The Christians that attend this church responded in the aftermath by gathering together, praising, and worshiped.
Starting point is 00:01:36 being God in the midst of what looks like destitution. This is sought for. And you can see they're holding hands. I'm trying not to tear up. They're holding hands. And then there's the cross behind them. So somehow, even after being the victims of a terrorist attack, after being burned down by these Islamic terrorists, this part of the church with the cross is still standing. And man, now I'm thinking how many stories I've seen like that over the years after our church burned down was attacked in some way or even was just in the middle of a tornado, some kind of storm. It seems like the only part of the church still standing was this cross. And so I just loved this. I was so encouraged by this and also just a reminder to pray for the persecuted
Starting point is 00:02:54 Christians around the world. Yes, we love our community. We love our neighbors. We love our families. We love our churches. We love our states and our country. But at the end of the day, those that we are truly related to in this profound spiritual sense, the people whose side we are really ultimately on, whose team we're on, is the fellow believer, the fellow believer in Yemen, in China, in North and South Korea, wherever they are,
Starting point is 00:03:25 whatever language they speak, whatever is their. their ethnicity, their nationality, whatever their skin color is, their socioeconomic status, their gender, that is our team. That is our brother or our sister. We have more in common with those Nigerian Christians than we do the secular person here who shares our skin color, our nationality, our general cultural, norms because we are going to spend eternity with that person. We share the most important thing with that person and that is the gospel. That is the hope that we have in Christ. And we are to
Starting point is 00:04:10 care for through our prayers, through our encouragement, through our edification, through our resources, we are to support the persecuted Christian. Yes, we do endure a form of persecution even here in Western civilization in the United States. I don't think that we can, or should just brush past the real exclusion and punishment that Christians in the United States sometimes endure for standing up for what God says is good and right and true. I think of, for example, Lori Smith or Jack Phillips, who have stood firm on the Word of God and have been punished for years. Because of that, there are many of you who have endured loss of relationships,
Starting point is 00:04:56 loss of opportunities, loss of finances because you have stood firm on the Word of God. And even though you are not enduring the same kind of persecution that say Christians in China or Nigeria are enduring, it still counts as a trial of many kinds. And what does James 1 say about trials of many kinds that we are to rejoice in them? Because it is the testing of our faith. And the testing of our faith produces steadfast. and steadfastness has its full of fact making us sanctified, lacking in nothing. And all of our trials, be they small or big, are outweighed by an eternal weight of glory that we will share
Starting point is 00:05:44 with the people in this video of these Nigerian Christians one day on the other side of eternity. And so this is just great perspective. It's a great reminder of what is being endured by our brothers and sisters around the world that if they can rejoice in their suffering, if they can rejoice in this amount of destitution, then we can rejoice in our inconveniences, our discomfort, our even real feelings of despair and hopelessness and depression and anxiety, all of the things that weigh us down here. If they can rejoice and praise God in that, we can rejoice and praise God in our circumstances too. And that is what Jesus gives us. That is the gospel of hope that he gives us. So praise God for that and praise God for
Starting point is 00:06:38 social media. It's praise God for technology that something like this can be circulated around the world and people can see the celebration of God's people. It's also just a reminder of what just a vessel of evil. Islamic terrorism is the greatest force of terrorism in the world. If you look at the top 100 terrorist organizations in the world, the vast, vast, vast majority of them will be Islamic. And that is not, that's not a coincidence. And unfortunately, Christians so often have to bear the brunt of that terrorism.
Starting point is 00:07:18 so be praying for them, but also thank you, Lord, for sustaining your people. He will do that. He will do that until the end. All right, Chrissy Teigen. My goodness, you'll remember that Chrissy Teigen a couple of years ago, she went through this horrifying loss of her pregnancy. She had very serious pregnancy complications, and she shared about that online in the pictures that she posted after losing her precious baby. She was obviously and rightfully so, very emotional. So was her husband, John Legend. And I remember there was a lot of cruelty towards her during this time,
Starting point is 00:08:12 even from people who professed to be pro-lifers, just bringing up all of these things about Chrissy Teaking in that they didn't like or that they don't agree with, some actually legitimately horrible things that she said in the past. And I just thought it lacked so much compassion, especially for people who call themselves Christians and pro-life. If you didn't have anything nice and supportive to say to her at the time, I think the better option would have been just not to say anything.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But at that moment, I think the right and godly thing to do would have been to offer prayers and offer encouragement and offer, you know, love and kindness in that moment. And I actually appreciated when she shared those vulnerable photos of herself crying in the hospital. Some people thought, oh, that's just a show. It's just narcissistic. I really didn't see it that way. I genuinely saw it as this could be really helpful for someone who is going through the same kind of situation. Now, she has later said that it wasn't a miscarriage. So I'm a little bit confused about the whole situation. I wouldn't be speculating if she hadn't made this whole thing public. But she later said that it wasn't a miscarriage, but that it actually was, an abortion. Now, I don't know if she is saying that for the purpose of activism because you see a lot of
Starting point is 00:09:32 pro-abortion activists saying, oh, miscarriage is abortion too, which is actually insane. Obviously, those things are different. And a miscarriage, the baby is dying naturally, tragically, but naturally. But when it comes to an abortion, you are inducing their death. It is the purposeful killing of a child. So I don't know exactly what happened there. I still have a lot of compassion for the feelings of loss and sadness that she felt during that time. Obviously, that was a very wanted baby. But it does seem like after that, she has now doubled down on her abortion advocacy
Starting point is 00:10:10 and her abortion activism. I don't know if it was because of that experience, if she feels like she needs to justify, or if it's just some kind of like genuine increase and passion about this issue. But now she is super, outwardly pro-abortion that she is actually going to the White House sitting down with Kamala Harris and talking about how great abortion is and how important abortion clinics are and how actually
Starting point is 00:10:41 there are this great and hopeful place. And so I'll play you that clip in a second of her talking about how awesome abortion clinics are and we'll respond to it. But let me back up and let me tell you why this whole thing is happening. Like why is there this partnership between Christy Teagan and Kamala Harris. So Chrissy Teigen was invited by Vice President Kamala Harris to the White House to be a part of this event on so-called abortion rights. Now, there is no right in the Constitution to kill your child. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. And of course, there were subsequent Supreme Court decisions after that that all relied on the reasoning. And that reasoning was not that. We actually see in the Constitution a right to an abortion, but somewhere in the hidden nooks and crannies of the Constitution, the right to privacy somehow also encompasses your right to killing an unborn childs. But when these cases were decided, when these decisions were made, we didn't know most of what we know now. We knew a lot still then.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It was still unjustified and still just constitutionally stupid. But we didn't have the technology then that we have now. And it's just absolutely unmistakable. This is not just a part of your body. This is not just bodily autonomy. This is a distinct human being with his or her own DNA. And abortion is purposely killing an innocent child, which by definition is murder. There is no right to that.
Starting point is 00:12:19 it might be legal in some states that does not mean you have a constitutional right to it. And it should not be legal because killing an innocent person is always wrong. Especially killing an innocent child. It's always wrong. And because it's always wrong, it should not be legal because these children have a right to not be killed. They have the most fundamental right, which is the right to life. So when you hear all these euphemisms that you're about to hear, just keep that in mind. So, Vice President Harris had to explain to everyone out there on social media what exactly Roe v. Wade does and Roe v. Wade was and what the Dobbs decision did. And in her classic style, she is going to talk to you as if you are in a classroom for kindergartners. Here's that one. Hey, everyone. So two years ago today, the highest court in our land, the United States Supreme Court took a constitutional right that had been recognized from the people of America. from the women of America. And thereafter, in state after state, laws have been proposed and passed that will criminalize
Starting point is 00:13:27 health care providers, sometimes prison for life for health care providers, that punish women, that make no exception even for rape or incest, that are threatening the availability of IVF, that are attempting to threaten the availability of contraception, and understand that what the court took, Look, Congress has the power to put back in place. And when Congress passes a law that puts back in place, the protections of Roe versus Wade, Joe Biden will sign it into law. Let's all agree. We have to trust women.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Just to remind you that Kamala Harris was the most radical pro-abortion member of the Senate when she was a senator. She was radically pro-abortion when she was the Attorney General of California. she was the Attorney General when she had authorities go after David Delighton. You remember David Delighton? He was the undercover reporter that revealed, inarguably, this is not an opinion. He revealed that Planned Parenthood was trafficking baby body parts from babies that had been aborted in their clinics and the state.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So instead of Kamala Harris saying, wow, that's illegal, you're not supposed to be able to sell body parts. This is awful. Let's keep Planned Parenthood in check. She actually sent authorities to David Delighton's house to make sure that he didn't have any evidence of that and tied him up in court in litigation for years and years. He has been punished for his undercover journalism. She doesn't care about the First Amendment. She doesn't care about the truth.
Starting point is 00:15:07 She doesn't care about dignity and justice. She is radically pro-abortion, not pro-choice. whatever that even means. If you believe in the legality of killing an unborn child, you are effectively pro-abortion, by the way. But she is unapologetically pro-abortion. She voted against at every turn the Born Alive Infant Survivors Act when she was in the Senate. That was an act that simply said, I think it was introduced by Ben Sasse at the time in 2019, I believe it was. And the legislation, just said, look, if a baby survives an abortion, you have to give that child the same medical care that you would give any other child that was struggling to live after birth. It didn't say that we're restricting abortion. It didn't limit any kind of freedom, so called, of abortion. And still, she said no, that we should not protect those children who are born alive after an abortion. She is bloodthirsty, radically pro-abortion. So this legislation that she's talking about
Starting point is 00:16:18 that the ardently Catholic president would sign if Congress passed it is a radically pro-abortion law that would basically make it impossible for any state, including the most conservative state, to protect unborn children from death in any or induced death, murder in any state of pregnancy. She supports abortion through all nine months for any reason funded by the taxpayer without apology. 40-week abortion, she would say, trust woman. That's her answer to that. That is the platform of the Democratic Party. Last Thursday, she hosted this conversation with Chrissy Teigen, along with other abortion rights activists at the White House to discuss the so-called reproductive freedoms ahead of the two-year anniversary of the
Starting point is 00:17:19 Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. Now, you heard her say they took away this right. Remember, that's not what the Dobbs decision did. The Dobbs decision simply said, look, this is decision that should be made by the states. They said, this is a decision. They said this is a If a state wants to ban abortion, they should be free to do that. And so many states passed laws that then heavily restricted abortion. And the Supreme Court did not weigh in on whether abortion was right. The Supreme Court did not weigh in on whether or not a state should ban abortion, but simply said, look, this is up to the states to decide.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It didn't ban anything. It didn't take any rights away. It rightly interpreted the Constitution. Now, you could argue that it didn't go far enough that we shouldn't leave it up to the states because this is a fundamental human right. And Congress should pass a law protecting the lives of all unborn children, which would, yes, have an effect on IVF. But you cannot argue that the Supreme Court took any so-called right-of-way because this right didn't exist in the first place. So Kamala sat down with Chrissy Teigen, who like I said, she says now that she had an abortion. And here's the exact tweet. She says, I told you all we had a miscarriage because I thought that's what it was, but it was an abortion. We were heartbroken and grateful all at once. It just took me over a year to realize it. I just don't believe that. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I think that she had the baby. The baby died after birth and she's calling it abortion because she is either confused or she, again, is coming from a place of activism. But she, in this conversation, she is describing with Kamala Harris, visiting this abortion clinic. And she says that actually it was this awesome, like super happy place. It's not a scary place like people say. Here's top five. Hearing stories from your clinic, hearing that so many women come in there, and it's not a place of sadness all the time. It's not a place where people are feeling at their darkest points or anything.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Like the world wants you to think. some people go in there with so much hope and so much, sorry, and so much excitement because they know that they have a future. You know what I thought about as she was talking. I thought about Jeremiah 29-11 when God says, for I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future. God is the one who gives us a hope and a hope and a future. God is the one who gives us a hope and a future. And it is so like Satan to take the word of God and then to pervert it, to give it the exact opposite meaning. Here she is talking about the slaughter of innocent children as she is saying that that murder gives these women a hope and a future. First of all, what about the hope and the
Starting point is 00:20:26 future of the babies that are about to be poisoned or dismembered. And then let us think about what it actually means to have a hope and a future. Can you really have a hope-filled future if that future is dependent upon killing the innocent human being inside your womb? Not really. feeling hopeful and excited before an abortion. It's not a flex. That is actually a sign of a callous heart,
Starting point is 00:21:07 of selfishness, that you have been so deluded by your own wants that you think that you can lay another human life on the altar of your own desires. That is the definition of self-centered. and narcissism. And let me just acknowledge something that it is true that your life will be easier if you do not have a baby because babies are hard.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And having your responsibility for someone else is really difficult. It does require a lot of sacrifice. It's inconvenient. It's uncomfortable in many ways. That all is true. You will be able to do more of what you want more quickly if you, abort this child, but none of that is worth it. None of that is worth it. You know, when someone has an abortion because they are in poverty or because they are in an abusive relationship or because they are
Starting point is 00:22:20 young and at the start of their life, after the abortion, they are still in all of those situations. After the abortion, you are still poor. After the abortion, you are still in an abusive relationship. after the abortion, you are still single. After the abortion, you are still alone. After the abortion, you are facing all of these obstacles still. Abortion didn't heal those things. It's just now that you, now you have to face all of those obstacles knowing that you killed your child. Now you have to face all of those obstacles with possible guilt and depression and the anxiety that so often comes after an abortion. Chrissy Teigen wants you to believe that the women who enter that abortion clinic, exit that abortion clinic are just happy go lucky, that they're feeling good and that afterward
Starting point is 00:23:10 they don't think about it anymore. They're just thinking, yeah, that was the best choice for me. No big deal. I can tell you, as someone who has talked to women who have chosen abortion, who told themselves at the time who swore up and down that they were happy, it was the right choice for them, they don't regret it. It might have been five, 10, 20, 30 years later that it hits them what they actually did and they are filled with regret. And then they look back over their lives and they realized, oh, when I was struggling with alcoholism, when I was struggling with drug addiction or sex addiction, or I was going from relationship to relationship when I realized that I could never really get close when I couldn't hold a job. All of those were actually symptoms of the guilt and
Starting point is 00:23:53 regret and the damage that was done to them and that they inflicted upon themselves by choosing an abortion. Yeah, of course, we're not supposed to talk about that because the abortion lobby, Chrissy Teigen included, wants you to think that abortion is a viable option. It's nothing more than just getting a tooth pulled. It's just a procedure that you go through. It's healthcare. It's reproductive freedom. It's exercising your bodily autonomy. It's feminism, liberation, all of these wonderful things. This is what progressivism does. This is how their propaganda is so effective. They use these universally innocuous and positive terms in order to make you think that their blood thirst, that their brutality is a good thing, that it's a compassionate, empathetic thing.
Starting point is 00:24:38 But you've got to see past that propaganda for what it actually is. And the truth of the matter is, even if a woman is happy, even if she never regrets it, even if she thinks that is the best thing that ever happened to her and she was able to go on and have a successful life and relationships and all of that because of her abortion, that doesn't make what she did right. There are people in prison who don't regret murdering their grandmother. They're a rapist in prison who don't regret assaulting 25 women. Does that mean that what they did was right?
Starting point is 00:25:12 How someone feels about what they did does not dictate the morality of what they did. And that's why it's so important to actually have a basis for morality, an objective perspective of what right and wrong is, which really can only be found in the Word of God, and really can really. can only be given to us by the creator of us, of our hearts, of our bodies, of truth, of morality. And that is why, of course, we are seen in this age of godlessness in the worship of the God of self, the justification of things like abortion and really the most brutal atrocities in the name of while that person just wanted to do it. It was what was best for them. Yeah, murders and rapists and terrorists all think that they're doing what is best for them. That's
Starting point is 00:26:06 not a good justification for it. And it just makes me shudder seeing her choke up and get emotional, crying, tears of joy and talking about how beautiful abortion apparently is. She has more to say about this. Here is sought to. When these places have to shut up to shut. When these places have to shut down, where are people going to go? And the travesty of it is that it will result in all kinds of other health care consequences and harm in addition to the obvious. Yeah, the right loves to call it an abortion clinic, right? Because then it makes it seem so targeted and so evil. It is an abortion clinic. What are you talking about? What else are you supposed to call it? It's an abortion clinic. And by the way, why does abortion clinic sound evil if a
Starting point is 00:27:00 abortion is health care? Why is abortion clinic scary sounding if an abortion is fine? If it is a totally normal and healthy choice for a woman to make, why is it wrong to call it an abortion clinic? Is that not the accurate term? What would you like to call it a reproductive health center? I think they typically call it a women's health center. What other form of health care intentionally kills one of the people involved in the procedure. I just want to remind you, and they will deny what an abortion is, but you can go to the Planned Parenthood website. You can read what an abortion procedure entails. You'll have to kind of get past some of the euphemisms, like terminate a pregnancy or pregnancy tissue. But if you can read between the lines and understand what they're talking about,
Starting point is 00:27:53 you can see, you can read what an abortion procedure is. And I know, it may be really disturbing to hear about what an abortion is and what an abortion does. But if the children, if the babies have to endure this, then I think we can stand talking about it and listening to it. And the first trimester, I'll just give a very general overview. I'm not even going to get graphic, but it's incredible. Some people don't know what an abortion is. Actually, the right and pro-lifers are so much more knowledgeable when it comes to what medically an abortion procedure entails than the left is. The left literally doesn't believe that it is a brutal,
Starting point is 00:28:34 violent procedure. I don't know what they think happens if you just sprinkle some fairy dust and all of a sudden the baby goes back to heaven. But it's not that. It is extremely brutal, extremely violent. And the first trimaster, you're taking an abortion pill usually. And there's some nuances to all of this and some exceptions to what I'm going to say. But this in general is true. the first trimester, you're taking an abortion pill. You're taking a combination. You're taking a couple pills that will basically poison the baby and then it will expel the baby from your uterus. And so there are awful stories of women bleeding out, bleeding profusely on the toilet after they have passed what Planned Parenthood refers to as pregnancy tissue. But there are also stories of the women
Starting point is 00:29:25 who have seen their little babies. And the little baby, even at 10 weeks gestation, it's really small. But that baby has already started to form arms and legs. That baby has fingers and toes and eyes. It looks like a small child. Like, I'll never forget at 11.5 weeks. The first time I got a sonogram when I was in my first pregnancy, that baby looked like a fully formed baby.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Small, but arms and legs, kicking, fingers and toes, flipping around and I just remember just spontaneously bursting into tears because I didn't realize she would look like that. I kind of thought that she would still just be looking like a little jelly bean with a beating heart. It was like, oh my gosh, she was this fully formed baby. That's the first trimester. 11 and a half weeks is the first trimester. And can you imagine that moving, kicking, feeling baby at that point being not only poisoned, but then expelled by the. abortion pills. Abortion pills are violent, both for the woman and for the child. And then later on, as the baby gets bigger, you can't just expel the baby by yourself. And so you're still poisoning
Starting point is 00:30:39 that child, starving that child of the nutrients that it needs. But then in an aspiration abortion, the doctor is literally, not even a doctor, but just the abortion provider is literally taking like a suction and inserting it into the woman through the cervix into the uterus and then sucking that baby out. Sometimes that baby has already died, many times that baby hasn't. Sucking the baby out in an aspiration abortion. That happens sometimes at the end of the first trimester and through the second trimester, then when the baby is bigger than that. We are still talking in the second trimester, not even technically so-called late-term abortion. That baby is too big to be suction out of the uterus. And so the skull has to be crushed. The baby has to be
Starting point is 00:31:27 dismembered inside the womb using forceps. And so the abortion provider will go into the uterus. Again, sometimes the baby is still alive. We'll crush the skull of the baby with the forcips, pull the school out, and then grab onto different limbs, twist, pull them off the torso, pull the baby out through the cervix and out of the woman and discard the baby like medical waste. That is not an exaggeration. That is not an exception. That kind of an abortion happens every single day in several states across the country. These living, moving, squirming, image bearers of God are being violently poisoned and dismembered. There are even more brutal forms of abortion because even third trimester abortion after the woman has been able to feel this baby kick is legal in the United States
Starting point is 00:32:23 yes, it happens. I know RFK Jr. said, oh, it's so rare. No woman wants that. If a woman doesn't want to abort her child after that point of viability, which is 24 weeks, then she shouldn't. No one is forcing her to do that. At that point, the baby can survive outside of the womb. If something is wrong with the mother, if something is wrong with the child, you deliver that baby. You deliver the baby. Either way, the baby is coming out. There is no point in killing the baby before she is removed from the womb. So I don't want to hear about the sob stories of all of these different situations in which it is apparently justified to kill a child before the child is removed from the womb. There is never any justification for that. If the mother's life is in danger, I want to save the mother's life.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You remove the child. You induce delivery. You do everything you can to save both the life of the mother and the child. Tragically, sometimes the child will die, especially if it is early on in the pregnancy, but the doctor should do everything possible to save both the life of the mother and the child. It is never necessary to purposely, intentionally kill a child before or after delivery. And yet it is the stance of the current Democratic Party, of the current administration that that baby does not have a right to life through 40 plus weeks of pregnancy. And if you can somehow find it in your heart and mind to justify that, I just want you to know that your mind and heart has become so deluded and so callous that you are on the wrong side, period.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Wrong side of history. However you want to think of it in your mind. I hear that a lot from the left, the wrong side of history. Yeah, that's you. That's you. I need you to have a moment of self-reflection that if you think it is okay to kill a child for any reason, then you are on the side of the human rights atrocity. that you are on the side of the Nazis, that you are on the side of the slaveholders, that you are
Starting point is 00:34:24 on the side of dehumanization because you are following the same logic that everyone who has committed human rights atrocities has held to. You have the same mentality, which is that some human beings are not worthy of life, that some human beings do not have rights, that some human beings based on some kind of arbitrary set of characteristics that they are not worth protecting and that they can be murdered, that they can be subjugated, that they can be mistreated in some way. That's what you think of some people, either because they're small, because of their location, because of their dependence, because of their strength, that is your mentality about babies inside the womb. Maybe you don't realize that that's your mentality,
Starting point is 00:35:10 but it is. And if you believe that, well, you're against abortion, but you are, are for the legal choice of abortion, it's the same mentality because you don't think that those human beings should be protected under the law, but you think you should. Why should you be protected against murder? But that baby shouldn't. Why do you think that you're worth more? Is it because you're bigger? You're stronger? Do you see where that mentality leads that the weaker someone is, the more dependent they are, the smaller they are, their wantedness as a human being, that that justifies killing them. Okay, if those are the justifications for killing babies outside of the womb, then apply that to people outside of the womb. Do you see how heartless you are then?
Starting point is 00:35:52 There are plenty of people outside of the womb who are poor, who are abused, who are sick, who are dependent, who are small, who are weak, who are not wanted. Do you believe in murdering them too? Is that compassionate? Is that empathetic then? There are children who are a drain on their parents who are a burden to those who take care of them, who are making it really hard for their parents to achieve their dreams or whatever, should that three-year-old be murdered? Should that 10-year-old be murdered? If not, why not? What is so magical about the vaginal canal that all the sudden a person is given rights?
Starting point is 00:36:30 A baby is given rights. That is a magical, mystical, superstitious mentality that I, as someone who cares about science, morality, logic, and theology. I just can't latch on to such a honestly foolish belief. And so be on the right side. Be against abortion. There's no good reason for it. There's no good justification for it except for that it is the popular position, popularized by people like Chrissy Teigen, Kamala Harris, all of the celebrities. But these people are on the side of darkness. They don't know truth. So I'm mostly speaking to that Christian woman right now who thinks that, well, maybe I'm pro-life,
Starting point is 00:37:15 but I'm for these exceptions. Or maybe I'm pro-life, but I'm also pro-choice when it comes to the law. Or, well, I just think that it's the more empathetic position to take to be for women to be able to have that choice. You're on the wrong side. You're on the side of brutality and you don't have to be on that side because abortion is murder. and thou shalt not murder is part of the big ten.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So the Bible speaks very clearly to that. All right. We've got some more propaganda that we are seeing from Kamala Harris, and this is really how they're trying to get women. They are not only tricking you into thinking that abortion is compassionate, but they're also trying to conflate miscarriage and abortion. And they're trying to say that if we restrict abortion in any way, women who have miscarriages, who suffer miscarriages, are also. also going to die and to they're not going to be able to get the treatment that they need at hospitals. This has been their propaganda since 2022 and they are still trotting this stuff out. So here's an example of that. SOT3. Like a lot of families, we experienced a couple of miscarriages.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I saw firsthand the treatment I received when I had my miscarriages before and after Roe was overturned and it is infuriating. Going through a miscarriage without access to any type of reproductive of health care. It's so scary. The pain was unbearable. I was losing so much blood. And doctors were afraid to give me the care that I needed. This was standard medical care for over 50 years. And overnight, it just vanished. Okay, that's a lie. I'm sorry, that's a lie. I feel for her. I believe in her sincere pain that she endured when she suffered a miscarriage. And we can have a lot of compassion for that. And I got a lot of questions for the doctors, too. if it is true that they didn't give her the treatment that she needed in a timely manner and that she
Starting point is 00:39:22 almost died. I think the doctors were in the wrong there. And maybe the lawyers that work with the hospital, they are not doing their part and informing the doctors of what the law actually is. Maybe the hospital isn't doing its part and informing the doctors of what the law actually is. Maybe these are activist doctors. Maybe these are activist lawyers. Maybe this is an activist hospital. And they are wanting women to suffer for political gain. I hope that that is not the case. case, but I certainly wouldn't put it past abortion activists who think that abortion is sacrosanct. They would, of course, be willing to sacrifice women's health and lives in order to make their point that we need abortion in order to treat women for miscarriages. It's just not true that we had standards of practice for miscarriages for 50 years that was somehow protected by KCV Planned Parenthood or Roe v. Wade and then overnight, all of those disappeared.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That's not true. I know many of you have suffered a miscarriage over the past couple of years and you have received wonderful care. And so this is not true across the board. It may be true of some doctors who are either purposely doing this or they are accidentally doing this because they are scared and they just don't know. Every single state that has passed any laws having to do with abortion protect women who have gone through miscarriages.
Starting point is 00:40:42 They protect care for women who are going through miscarriages. A DNC for a woman who goes through a miscarriage is not an abortion. Abortion activists seem to not understand this or they're blatantly lying about this. We saw this, remember? I think it was a couple of years ago or it was last year, Jessa Dugger, that's not her last name anymore. She had to get a DNC after she had a miscarriage. And she shared about this publicly and how awful this was. and then you had abortion activists saying, oh, so Jessa got to have an abortion.
Starting point is 00:41:20 She had an abortion in the state of Arkansas because she's wealthy and she's privileged and she's got connections, but she doesn't believe that other people should be able to have an abortion. They were trying to say that the DNC that she had after she had a miscarriage was the same thing as a DNC that someone has when they are trying to have an abortion, when they are aborting their child. Of course, those are not the same things. And there's no pro-lifer who is against a DNC for a woman after she has a miscarriage. After the baby, no longer has a heartbeat, has naturally died. Of course, a DNC is a medical procedure.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Is health care in that case? A DNC that is being used as part of the process to purposely kill a child? Yes, that is part of the abortion process. Those are two different things. You're being purposely obtuse in order to be evil. And I would just recommend that you not do that. Like get a better argument. That's also how you know that you're on the wrong side.
Starting point is 00:42:19 If you have to rely on deceit, if you have to lie, if you have to rely on propaganda, if you have to use euphemisms to obscure what an abortion actually is, then maybe it's just because the truth is awful. And you should try not being that. And so this is the message that they are trying to convey. They are trying to conflate a miscarriage with an abortion. And maybe some doctors have been tricked by this. and so they are not providing the care that is necessary to women, which is wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And maybe Republican legislators need to do an even better job of just being so clear that this is not what's being restricted in abortion legislation. I am on board with that. I want these laws to be as clear as possible. I want women to actually be provided with real health care. I want babies to be cared for. I want women to be cared for. I don't want there to be any confusion about that. But the fact is, all of these laws do defafer.
Starting point is 00:43:12 They do define abortion. They do define unborn life. They are pretty clear. Maybe not every law is as clear as it could be. But these laws are restricting abortion, not miscarriage care. And by the way, doctors have always had to navigate. They've always had to navigate the different laws surrounding abortion. They haven't ever just been able to enjoy some kind of free-for-all. There have always been abortion restrictions in place in most of these states that the doctors have had to be knowledgeable about and navigate and be able to come up to the boundaries of what they're able to do and to have discernment based on those parameters. And so now all of a sudden, because those parameters have shifted and become more strict, they have no idea what to do and they don't know how to treat
Starting point is 00:44:05 a miscarriage, I'm just not buying it. I am absolutely not buying it. I am absolutely not buying it, but this is what they are trying to do to you because they know you, Christian woman, are against abortion, which are not against is miscarriage care. And so what they want you to think is that you have to vote Democrat in order to protect miscarriage care. And that is a lie. That is an absolute lie. They are trying to trick you because they think that you're stupid, but you're not.
Starting point is 00:44:31 You're smarter than that. There is no reason ever for a Christian to vote Democrat. There's just not. unless you in your area, you've got a pro-life Democrat that is also anti-crime, that is also pro-strict borders, that is also against basically all of the tenets of progressivism and is pro-traditional biblical marriage and family. Unless you can find that kind of Democrat, there's just no reason for Christians to ever vote Democrat. I'm not saying Republicans are perfect by any means, but their imperfection, well, I would say not even just their imperfection. Like their deficits, their ineffectiveness, all the bad parts of republicanism is not because they are too conservative. It's because they're actually not conservative enough.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They actually need to move further to the right and further into life. The problems with Democrats is because they are way too far left. And so if you vote Republican, you can at least try to shift your legislators over to the right. And if you vote Democrat, you are just affirming their radicalism and their anti-God, anti-biblical positions on everything. You're going to see a lot of moral relativism this election season with people saying, oh, you know, both sides are just equally bad. And so at least vote Democrat because at least they're,
Starting point is 00:46:07 pro social justice. At least they care about the poor. At least they're helping the immigrant. None of those things are true about the Democrat party. There's no justification for you to vote Democrat. They are not equivalent. They are not equal. They are not even on the same plane. Every current position of the Democratic Party of the Democratic platform is anti-biblical in every sense. And I will take anyone to task on that who tries to say that to both sides are equal Christian cannot, should not be voting Democrat, especially not this current administration. And by the way, I do also want to say abortion is a good one issue. If you are a single issue voter, people will try to tell you, don't be a single issue voter. Abortion is just one of the
Starting point is 00:46:57 issues. It's true that abortion is just one of the issues. There are also some other very serious, very important issues. But it's okay if that's your single issue. I saw a lot of articles in the New York Times and the Washington Post in the last election cycle of women saying, oh, I can't believe I used to only vote based on my abortion stance. And now I vote Democrat because of blah, blah, blah. No, it is okay to vote based on abortion. Like, this is the only issue that is a literal and imminent matter of life and death. There's one side that believes that killing babies should be a right and one side that doesn't. It's really not that hard. Like, we can work on the other stuff. But that, it's so blatantly unbiblical to support the party that believes in the unfettered access to
Starting point is 00:47:45 killing babies. At least with Donald Trump, like, I wish he were more pro-life. So much I do. At least I know that the people that he is going to put in place are going to be far more pro-life than the people that Joe Biden has in place. And as we're looking at this conversation between Kamala Harris and Christy Teagan, I think that that is just emphasized really disturbingly well. All right. That is all we've got time for today. We've got lots of awesome stuff coming up for the rest of the week. Don't forget also, if you have not signed up for Share the Aeros, go to share the Aeros.
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