Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1040 | Advice for Trump & Jojo Siwa’s Sordid Baby Journey

Starting point is 00:00:00 Jojo Siwa says that she is going to welcome three babies via surrogate. Also, we have officially said goodbye to Joe Biden as the presidential nominee. And hello to Kamala Harris. Here is how we should and should not talk about her. And Elon Musk says that he is a cultural Christian. We've got all of that and much more on today's episode of Relatable. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday.

Starting point is 00:00:41 Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far. All right, we are going to try to get through four subjects today. Can we do it? It's going to be a challenge. I'm going to try to do it all in under an hour. Let's go. First topic is Biden's speech. He gave his speech from the Oval Office last night.

Starting point is 00:01:00 He said that he chose to quote unquote, pass the torch forward because he believed it would. unite his party and save democracy. There was a lot of that kind of language in his speech last night. Here is SOT 1. You know, in recent weeks, it's become clear to me that I need to unite my party in this critical endeavor. I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for America's future, all married at a second term, but nothing. Nothing can come in the way of saving our democracy. That includes personal ambition.

Starting point is 00:01:45 So I've decided the best way forward is the past the torch to a new generation. That's the best way to unite our nation. All right. So he is apparently recovering from COVID. That was the diagnosis that we were given last week and why he was kind of in isolation, why he dropped the big news on X and then ghosted up. us for a few days, did not give us any signs of life that caused a lot of theories and conspiracy theories about his health, about his whereabouts, even if he was alive. There were a lot of

Starting point is 00:02:21 reports that claimed that, oh, he's in hospice or he is actually dead. Of course, I did not share any of those reports. It's really tempting to do that. And when people say that this is a developing story, uncorroborated report, and then they just put the post or put the tweet out there, you really have to be skeptical of those kinds of people because, yes, there is an engagement incentive to be the first one to say something, but it's not worth being first and wrong, especially when it's that kind of destabilization-inducing information. Like, we don't want our enemies to see things like that, it just makes things look more chaotic and unstable than they already are. And so he is alive. Now, there are some people out there who will still doubt this, who will say that this was maybe

Starting point is 00:03:13 artificial intelligence. If it was AI, they could have made him look a lot better. They clearly put some foundation on his face to make him look like he had more color. They also would have made him, I think, sound a little bit stronger if this had been artificial intelligence. I mean, he sounds really bad. And even that might be a little bit strategic. I mean, I do think it's sincere. I think he is really struggling. I think that everything that comes with aging has just precipitated, it seems, over the past several months. But this is a really smart strategy by the Democrats to try to garner as much sympathy, as much pride as possible in Joe Biden. Remember, we had that incredible patriotic, patriotic image of Donald Trump in front of the

Starting point is 00:04:02 clear blue sky, secret service around him, the American flag waving behind him, his bloodied face, his fist in the air. And that was the image that we all said was going to win him his campaign. And then his incredible RNC entrance and then the speech, it was all humble. It was different. It made people come out of the woodwork who were previously either undecided or scared to voice their support for Trump come out and say, yeah, I support him. I'm going to wear my MAGA hat around San Francisco. This spelled absolute and total disaster for the Democrats. They had to do something to take the wind out of Donald Trump's sales. I saw some people saying at that point, oh, they've just given up. They know that Donald Trump is going to win. Oh, my goodness, have we learned nothing about politics? Have we

Starting point is 00:04:59 and learn nothing about the machine, the global machine that is America's Democratic Party. You thought that they were going to give up in July because of a couple of good pictures of Donald Trump? No freaking way. No freaking way. Right now they're doing everything they can to garner sympathy, to garner excitement, to channel any feelings of patriotism and pride in country into Kamala Harris's campaign. And that is why she is running on freedom. She just put out her first campaign ad. And we will play a short clip of that.

Starting point is 00:05:40 What kind of country do we want to live in? There are some people who think we should be a country of chaos, a fear of hate. But us, we choose something different. We choose freedom. The freedom not just to get by, but get ahead. The freedom to be safe from gun violence. The freedom to make decisions about your own body.

Starting point is 00:06:08 We choose a future where no child lives in poverty, where we can all afford health care, where no one is above the law. So this is what they're going for. And they want us to feel as much empathy and compassion as possible for Biden. They want us to think that this was a courageous, selfless act that he is putting aside voluntarily his personal ambition, that he is passing this opportunity to Kamala Harris, who is going to carry the torch of freedom and democracy and progress into the future. Of course, the reality behind the scenes is much, much darker than that.

Starting point is 00:06:50 It's much more corrupt. He did not voluntarily leave. He did not want to leave. He is very resentful and angry behind the scenes about this process. He was pressured out. He was pushed out. He was basically told, this is the option that you have. And so now it's Kamala Harris, who is a foot soldier of every far left progressive cause. She is beholden, not, I don't think, to her own party or even her own belief system or even her own personal ideology. She's certainly not beholden to the Constitution. or to the country. She is beholden only to power. She has shown that throughout her career. She is beholden to Planned Parenthood in the abortion lobby. She is beholden to the so-called human rights campaign and the LGBTQ lobby. She is beholden to radical environmentalists. That's why she has used her power, for example, as attorney general, to go after pro-lifers to force pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise for abortion. She was the co-sponsor of that bill.

Starting point is 00:07:59 that turned into a law that would have forced pro-life centers to advertise for abortion. Thankfully, that was ruled unconstitutional. She sicked state authorities on David Delighton, the pro-life journalist who uncovered the corruption in Planned Parenthood. She had his home raided for that. She is an ardent advocate of the Equality Act, which would absolutely demolish the religious liberty and the free speech rights of religious institutions that hold to the natural definition of marriage and family. She is for the transition of minors, even against the wishes of and the consent of parents. She is absolutely anti-freedom. She is anti-fraking, which spells economic ruin

Starting point is 00:08:47 for thousands and thousands of families and for America as a whole. She is beholden to China. She is beholden to Iran. She is beholden to power. Palestine. She is the most far left senator that we've had. That includes Bernie Sanders. She has a 100% rating from the LGBTQ lobby and Planned Parenthood. She even voted against the bill that would have guaranteed babies who survived abortion. So after abortion, the right to health care. She is radical. She is bloodthirsty. She is as far left as it comes. And she is power hungry. So when she says that she is for freedom, she is lying, plain and simple. She is lying. And not even if she is president, will the Supreme Court be able to keep her in check because she supports the Democrats' radical plan to expand the court and then pack the court with progressive activists who do not care about the Constitution.

Starting point is 00:09:47 Remember, at the end of the day, the Constitution is a piece of paper. It's not that it has some kind of inherent magical powers. it actually has to be upheld and enforced by people with authority. And so that is the future that we have with Kamala Harris. And we have to attack her from that angle. We have to attack her from the left, not from the right. What I mean by that is stop calling her Kamala the cop, that she put too many people in jail for marijuana.

Starting point is 00:10:22 stop talking about the fact that, oh, in a speech a few months ago, she called 18 to 24 year old stupid. Those are literally the best things that she has done instead. 18 to 24 year olds are stupid. It's okay that she said that. That's like the most cogent thing that she said. Putting too many people in jail, look, a country that is looking for law in order, they're actually going to look at something like that and say, okay, well, you know, that's not too bad. I don't hate her for that. Don't attack her from the left. You're not going to get anyone left of center to vote for Donald Trump because she put too many people in jail when she was Attorney General of California. You're just not going to attack her from the right, attack her policies, this name calling,

Starting point is 00:11:09 this calling her a ho, this calling her stupid, which I have done that third one because I do think that she is vapid. So I will be the first to admit that's not the best. strategy, but neither are the other ones. Like, let's stay above board. Let's call it what it is. She is a radical communist-leaning tyrant who is bloodthirsty and the most pro-abortion politician that we've got. She has been in charge of the border for the last four years. And every single murder by an illegal alien happened on her watch because of her choices. Lakin Riley's murder is because of Kamala Harris. That's where we go.

Starting point is 00:11:51 Okay, we don't need to talk about her cackle anymore. We don't need to talk about Willie Brown. We don't need to talk about Montel Williams. I love making fun of the things that she said about school buses just as much as the next person. But we can attack her on policy and we can Trump campaign paint a positive vision of the United States while also contrasting that with the dark reality of an anti-fraking, anti-energy independence, pro-inflation, pro-nine-month abortion future with Kamala Harris at the helm. You can do that without name-calling, without doing the low blows, because every time you do that, you are garnering sympathy for Harris and Joe Biden. We don't want her to have sympathy.

Starting point is 00:12:40 We want people to be repelled by her, to be repulsed by her. We want them to be scared of a future with her in the White House. And so paint a picture of America in which it is restored to her former glory, where we've got economic prosperity. We've got energy independence. We've got safe streets. We've got beautiful, clean cities. We've got secure borders.

Starting point is 00:13:06 We've got intact, happy families. That's the picture that we need to paint. I think that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are good people to paint that picture. I think their policies will lead us there. And Kamala Harris will lead us in the opposite direction. That's where we need to go. That's what the Trump campaign I think needs to do. I mean, you can take my opinion for what it's worth. I don't have political strategy experience. But I am a mom. I am a suburban woman. I am an evangelical. and I do have my finger on the pulse of what this demographic is looking for. And I have people in my audience, conservative Christian women or Christian women who don't really know quite where they fall on everything who don't know who they're voting for. And now you can make fun of those people all you want to. And you can ridicule them and call them dumb and call them evil or whatever. All you're doing is pushing them into the arms.

Starting point is 00:14:12 of someone like Kamala Harris, or into RFK, or into just being so politically apathetic that they just don't think that they can vote for Donald Trump. Okay? I don't know everything that this demographic is thinking, but I know way more than probably most commentators and maybe a lot more than a lot of political strategists about what this very necessary group of women thinks. No more name calling.

Starting point is 00:14:41 hit her with the policy. She is anti-freedom, anti-prosperity for the average American family. That's where you need to go. Anti-safety, anti-law, in order, anti-security, anti-medical freedom. That's Kamala Harris. That is what the swing states care about, what the Rust Belt cares about, what moms care about. All right. Let's move on to the next subject, but let me pause and tell you about our next sponsor for the day.

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Starting point is 00:16:38 They're worldview that is always grounded in. who we think is in charge. Do you worship the God of Scripture? Do you worship the God of self? Do you worship some other kind of pagan entity? What we worship will determine our culture. It will determine what we think about social issues, and it will also determine our politics.

Starting point is 00:17:02 And the God of this age, and you could argue in many ages, is this God of self. This God of self. that tells you to prioritize your wants, your desires, your feelings above everything else. I've talked about this quite a few times. I wrote about it in my first book, You're Not Enough and that's okay. And the God of Self has two transcendent values, that it demands that you put above everything else, that you submit to these two main values. And that is autonomy and authenticity. You can hear that it has the same prefix there,

Starting point is 00:17:41 that A, you, that like automatic autonomy, authenticity, they all sound the same because it's talking about the self. So authenticity, it says you put authenticity above all else. What that means is that you are prioritizing your feelings and your self-identification above all else. Whatever you feel is real. Whatever you deem your truth, that is your reality. Everyone in everything else has to succumb and submit to that. The other is autonomy. Autonomy, you control your body. You get to do what you want to do. Everything and everyone is sacrificed on the altars of authenticity and autonomy. When these are your supreme values, you will, for example, in the name of authenticity, even denied biological reality by identifying

Starting point is 00:18:36 is something that you can never be, which is the opposite sex. And if you submit to autonomy as your highest value, then you will even sacrifice your unborn child in the name of controlling your own body. Now, authenticity and autonomy are not in themselves bad, but they, just like every other value, have to be in submission to transcendent truth. They have to be in submission, namely to God's law. Yes, truly being yourself and not faking it, not trying to be something that you are not can be good as long as you are still in submission to what God says is good in right and true. Yes, autonomy can be good to a certain extent. I don't believe that the government should be able to come in and, for example, force you to take a vaccine.

Starting point is 00:19:24 But again, our authenticity and our autonomy must be in submission to the God of Scripture. The God of self is a cruel God demanding that you do whatever you. you want at all times, no matter whom or what you are sacrificing on the altar of self. And a really good example of someone who has just completely, completely gotten herself wrapped up in this cult of the god of self is Jojo Siwa. Now, I think we've talked about her once or twice before. If you don't know who she is, she was a child star. She was on dance moms. Okay. Did you ever watch dance moms on TLC. TLC should be like, I don't know. I think what was it, what was it even stand? What does it stand for? TLC? The learning channel. It should be train rack learning

Starting point is 00:20:17 channel. I don't know. I don't know what the L&C should stand for, but it was basically in a lot of cases, not every single show on TLC. I enjoyed watching a lot of them growing up. But a lot of and we're just like, let us find the most dysfunctional people possible, put them all in a room, tape them, put some dramatic music behind it, and bam, we've got a channel and a hit show. That's what dance moms was. I don't know that much about Jojo Siwa. I know that she got really popular on YouTube, that her mom pushed her really hard to be famous, that she would spend hours dancing and rehearsing and all of that, and that she was like obsessed with

Starting point is 00:20:56 Bose there for a while. That's, I think, all I knew about her. And then a couple years ago, she came out as gay. And it was very strange because she went from, like, way past the point that it was normal for her to be acting like a child. She was acting like a child. So she went from like this teenage child, basically, who still dressed and acted and danced and sang like a toddler to apparently this grown adult who had some kind of sexual discovery and decided that she was a lesbian. and she started posting about her lesbian romantic relationships. And she has just, I don't know if it's in rebellion to her like previous image as this like,

Starting point is 00:21:37 I don't know, kid star, innocent girl with like a huge following of young girls. But now she's trying to be like super dark and she's trying to be really rebellious. I would say even demonic in some ways. She has a recent music video, which I'm not going to play with her, her recent song is an awful song. It's horrible, just like objectively speaking. I will tell you, by the way, even if a song doesn't align with my values, I will tell you if it's good. I told you that Dylan Mulvaney's song slaps.

Starting point is 00:22:08 And I was right about that. But he's horrible, but I can be objective here. This song is objectively bad, just like Katie Perry's song. And, I mean, also the values are horrible. It was extremely sexual. At one point, she's dressed up like a dark angel. She looks like she's in hell. It's she's talking about being someone's like a woman's guilty pleasure.

Starting point is 00:22:30 It's just awful. Like the swing was just so incredibly dramatic. And now she's not just portraying herself as some edgy artist. She is also talking about since she says that she's gay, that she is going to use surrogates to have her children. Here's how she talks about that. saw it too. Because I'm gay as shit and I have to plan a pregnancy much different than a straight person, I actually want to take three eggs, fertilize three eggs, and have three surrogates. So technically they'll all be the same batch, but they would all be born separately.

Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm going to have my surrogates, my babies. Then maybe the little birthdays will land on different days and they can be like triplets, but like not. How she is talking so flippantly and so selfishly about creating human life is disgusting. It should be repulsive to everyone with a moral compass. And I'm sad for her. I truly am. I mean, like she's a person made in the image of God. We should have compassion for her.

Starting point is 00:23:36 I have no idea what she dealt with growing up in the spotlight with like that much pressure. I sense a lot of, a lot of issues that have gone on there. Like I want her to know her creator. I want her to know Christ. I want her to know why she truly has purpose and value outside of her fame and her audience and her image and her purported sexuality and all of that. But I can know that and feel that while also being repulsed by what she is saying here because it is. It is so simple. It is so disordered. And what we see about disordered sexuality is that it breeds more disorder and that it

Starting point is 00:24:13 always puts kids in the crosshairs. It always sacrifices kids because when you mess with the natural order of procreation, the natural order of marriage, you are just going to get more disorder and more chaos. And what do we always say? Kids are always the primary subjects of progressive social experiments. And that is certainly the case here. She talks about them as a batch. And that's really what kind of happens in the IVF process. And I know not every IVF process is identical, but we really need to start thinking about that, as we've talked about many times, how she is retrieving her eggs, which is hard on the body in the first place, freezing her eggs. She's finding a sperm donor, someone, I'm assuming that she does not know that is not going

Starting point is 00:25:03 to be in these children's lives. Are they the same sperm donor, different sperm donors? I'm not sure. And then she doesn't want to transfer them into her own uterus. She wants to rent the wombs of three other women. And so she is commercializing women and commodifying and commodifying and commodifying children all to satisfy her own wants. She is sacrificing the well-being, the needs of these kids for the God of self,

Starting point is 00:25:32 for her authenticity and autonomy. And these kids will pay the price, not just in their reproduction, but also throughout their lives because this is forced fatherlessness. The two components needed to make a baby are also the two people needed to raise a baby. Science tells us something. God who created science tells us something about what is needed, not just to create those children, but to raise those children in a healthy way. And she is forcing these kids to be fatherless. She is forcing them into an unstable environment for no other reason except she wants to. Look, children are not a right. The desire to have children is good. And in fact, like, it's so

Starting point is 00:26:18 crazy how we think about sexuality and identity. Like, how come someone's desire, like a woman's desire like this, Jojo Siwa, which is good and natural for her to have children? Why doesn't that tell her anything about what her identity is? Why is it only her sexual feeling that gets to determine her so-called orientation and the way she orders her life? Why is her sexual lust more important than a much more profound and a much more telling desire to have a child. Maybe if you have this desire to have a child, that is telling you who you are and what your body is for, in part. Obviously, that's not the only thing that determines what our bodies are for or our identity, but it's a big part of it. It's a huge part of being a woman. Why is it your lust that gets to

Starting point is 00:27:07 be in the driver's seat of your life and not this innate desire that you have to have children. And if you want to have children, do it the right way, get married to a man and have kids that way. Or at the very least, if you're not going to do that because you think that your lust determines your identity, then don't force kids to be fatherless. At least don't do that. At least put their well-being above your wants. Kids are gifts. They are not rights just because you have a good desire, does not.

Starting point is 00:27:37 justify the ends, which is the unethical IVF process, which involves eugenics and also the renting of wombs, which is unethical and also the forced fatherlessness, which is just immoral. Now, speaking of life inside the womb and the dignity of unborn children, is speaking of TLC. Also, we've got two TLC vets on the episode today. Tori and Zach Roloff. Now, you probably know the name Zach Roloff from the show Little People Big Roloff. That was a good one. I watched that. They are catching some heat on Instagram because a clip they shared from their podcast where they shared their pro-life perspective. So we'll get into that in just a second in some of the absolutely unhinged comments.

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Starting point is 00:29:31 Okay, this just in Frembris, actually, is that Dan's moms was not, it was not on, it was on TLC, right? It was on Lifetime. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Sorry. Well, Lifetime had its own chaos. Um, yeah. Okay. I just wanted to correct the record on that. But Little People, Big World was definitely on TLC. And a lot of the people from the show still have very prominent platforms. And as far as I know, I think all the kids from the show are Christians and are very outspoken about that, which is awesome. So Tori and Zach Roloff, they have a podcast called Raising Heights. And in a recent episode, they shared their journey of loss due to miscarriage. And they were hoping that their story would help others navigate similar experiences.

Starting point is 00:30:29 and she said in the midst of that that she realized what her stance on abortion should be. Here's what she said, SOT 3. To me, when you get pregnant, that's a baby, you know? And so when we lost that baby, it was like we just lost a part of our family. Previous to this situation, I was very apolitical. But I think being in that room and being as traumatized as I was, became black and white for me in that room. I'm not okay with this. Like I'm I would never choose to be in this room and I don't understand how somebody could choose to be in that room. You know, yes, you

Starting point is 00:31:09 have all these, you know, smaller percentages, you know, women get pregnant, rape and all those things, very terrible. The majority of people that I get, if I go out and have beers at the bar and drink and drive, get an accident, I'm going to jail. You know, it's a consequence I chose. So, and we don't think about this. That the choice to have sex. That was the choice. We want to choose consequence, the outcome. And that's where I struggle to like get on board with any of the like, oh, it's health care. It's health care. It's like no, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, obviously they're absolutely right. I don't have to tell you that. And I'm so, I'm so glad that they were willing to be outspoken about that because they didn't have to. They knew that that was going to be controversial. They knew that that was going to get them some backlash.

Starting point is 00:31:55 and they were very vulnerable sharing about the tragedy of a miscarriage, having to get a DNC after a miscarriage, and then talking about how that changed their perspective on something, or at least her perspective, awakened her to the right perspective about abortion and just how heinous it is, how wrong it is, every single time to kill an innocent child. And they also went on to talk about how the abortion issue affects their family since obviously the roll-offs have dwarfism in their family. Here's stop four. How many people, when we had Jackson, they came in very serious and said, hey, you know, Jackson's a dwarf. And we already knew it.

Starting point is 00:32:39 We saw it on the ultrasound. But the way they had that conversation, because for a lot of people, the next conversation could be a whole lot different than what our. was we were happy and everything like that. It's, that baby's going to have a harder life. I want to terminate it or put it up for adoption, but a lot of people have that. So abortion also, you know, for me, it's in the context of dwarfism. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it at all.

Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah. I mean, that's what people with special needs or people with dwarfism or people who are conceived in rape or people who are conceived in rape or people. who were conceived in really hard circumstances, that's what they're hearing from the pro-choice, pro-abortion side, that your life was worth being exterminated, that you would have been, you're too much of a burden, you're too difficult, the circumstances surrounding your conception or surrounding your pregnancy were too hard, it would have been fine if you would have been murdered. It would have been fine if you would have been killed.

Starting point is 00:33:46 It's only apparently perfect and perfectly wanted babies that deserve a right to life. And you see how nonsensical that is, how illogical that is, that someone's worth, that someone's inherent right to life is dependent upon the circumstances surrounding their conception or what their disability is or how rich or poor their parents are or how much they're wanted. Like take those reasons to people outside of the womb. Do you think that you should be free, that you should have a right to kill a five-year-old because they're not wanted or they're in an abusive home or a poor home or because they were conceived in rape? Do you think that we should exterminate people who are outside of the womb because of their disabilities, because of their socioeconomic status, because of their size, because of their contributions, because of their sentience? Of course, you're going to say no.

Starting point is 00:34:44 of course you don't believe that it should be legal to kill a 5, 10, 50 year old for these reasons. And so if you don't think that it should be legal or justified to kill people outside of the womb for these reasons, why do you think those are good justifications to kill people inside of the womb for those reasons? It doesn't make any sense. You don't become like a different person when you go through the birth canal. You're still the same person. You're just a different size. Surely you don't think that someone's right to life is determined by.

Starting point is 00:35:14 their size or age, right? Or what they look like? I mean, that would be really cruel and really barbaric. Like, you would be right in line with the Nazis. You'd be right in line with Paul Pot. You'd be right in line with every single author of the worst human rights atrocities in history, if that's what you believe. So hopefully that's not what you believe. And if that's not what you believe, then you should believe that babies in the womb have the same right to not be murdered as you and me. That's the side you should be on. Unfortunately, the people, in the comments of these videos do not have that mentality. They are not thinking rationally.

Starting point is 00:35:52 They think that they are because they have been so brainwashed, so propagandized by the lies of the God of self, the lies of Satan, who are constantly using, who is constantly using the same deceit that was used in the Garden of Eden to manipulate women today. Did God really say, you do this and you can be like God. That's basically the lie of abortion is that no, you are the

Starting point is 00:36:20 author of life through your bodily autonomy. So here are some of the crazy comments. You can go, you can go look at their Instagram video. I encourage you to actually because I want you to comment something positive. I want you to encourage them. I want you to pray for them. I want you to message them. I want you to share on your stories. I want you to share the arrows with them because here are some of the comments. They're insane. Tori, in many places today, you would not have the option to have a DNC anymore. Do you not realize this? Does that fact change your mindset? That's not true. That's not true. Like these people did the same thing to the Duggers. Okay. More TLC people. They did the same thing to the Duggers. When Jessa Dugger had a miscarriage,

Starting point is 00:37:00 she lives in Arkansas, which is a pro-life state. She had a miscarriage. She had to have a DNC after the miscarriage. She was accused by all of these brainless redditors that, oh, she had an abortion. Oh, abortion for thee, but not for me. Oh, you have, you know, you have wealth and you have privilege and you have connection. So you can get an abortion, but you don't think other people should be able to get an abortion. A DNC after a miscarriage is not an abortion. Okay? It's not an abortion. Like you, I know you understand this. I know you do. I know you do. Okay. So just pause, take a deep breath. Put your thinking come on for a second. The reason that pro-lifers are against abortion is because it is ending the life of someone who is alive. Okay, they've got their own

Starting point is 00:37:44 independent DNA. They are their own human being. They're not like an organ. They're not just a clump of cells. They are a human being at the earliest point of conception. And we don't believe in killing innocent people, period, whether they're in the womb or outside of the womb. Okay. A miscarriage, yes, sometimes it is coded for insurance as a spontaneous abortion. But no matter what the terminology is. A miscarriage is natural death. Okay. No one took a pill to poison that child to stop its heart. No one is tearing apart that child, limb from limb while he or she is still alive. No one murdered that child. No one killed that child. That child died by natural causes. Again, I know you know the difference between someone dying by natural causes outside of the womb and

Starting point is 00:38:32 someone being murdered. Right? Like I know that you know the difference there. That's that's the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion. So a DNC after a miscarriage is removing a child who has already naturally and tragically died. A DNC and an abortion is a part of a procedure to kill a child that is alive. There are zero states that have banned, prohibited, restriction, a DNC after a miscarriage at all. Okay? You have been completely lied to if you believe that or you just have deluded yourself into thinking that someone said i'm glad you had the choice to abort the pregnancy that ended my gosh that you weren't forced to carry the embryonic tissue and possibly cause infection and damage to your reproductive system no one is being forced to do that no one's being

Starting point is 00:39:22 forced to do that astonished that you feel that others shouldn't be able to make the same choice loved your podcast i can't listen anymore okay everyone is entitled someone else says to their opinion. But when the government dictates in some states that you cannot have a DNC unless you are dying, it's a problem. I love your podcast, but you need to be more educated about this. The projection is just insane. These people are so uneducated. Most of these people couldn't even tell you what happens in an abortion or even what DNC stands for. It's dilation and cutterage, by the way. Y'all lost me at you don't think it's a woman's right to choose. You can have every right to choose for yourself that you can never do that. But to make judgment and to make that decision for someone

Starting point is 00:40:05 else is what is not okay. Like you know that's the basis of all laws, right? Like telling people what they can't do based on a belief. Every single law is that. Every single law is telling someone what they can or cannot choose to do based on an underlying belief that doing so is wrong or harmful. Murder laws, theft laws, rape laws, all of that. Like let's take your logic. to another scenario again. Like, why do you think that your belief, for example, if you want to use this logic, that rape is wrong should infringe upon someone else's right to do that? Yeah, because it's wrong, because it's harming someone else,

Starting point is 00:40:48 because you believe rightly that people have a right not to be raped. That's what abortion laws are. We're saying, no, you should not have the choice to murder an innocent person, just because they're in your womb. Okay, so you can disagree with that. The only honest stance to take if you are pro-choice is to say that you don't believe babies inside the womb have a right not to be murdered. And that's it. You understand that it's a life.

Starting point is 00:41:16 You understand that it's a person. You understand that it is, you know, the same species as people outside of the womb. You just believe that some murder is okay. That is the only honest stance to take that some murder is fine to you. Now, if you don't believe that, again, I would just reassess your position. So go share the arrows with them. Good for them. Good for you for not only staying out on your podcast but posting it on Instagram.

Starting point is 00:41:38 Because you, rollofs, are giving cover to other people who feel the same way but are scared. Now, they will be willing to speak up. And you who are watching them, their family, their friends, especially, but also just anyone out there who follows them, don't be silent about this. Treat them how you would want to be treated. If you were receiving backlash for something controversial, you wouldn't want someone standing up with you too and saying, you know what? Whatever arrows you're throwing at them, you can throw at me. Whatever names you're calling them, whatever consequence you're giving them, I'll take that too.

Starting point is 00:42:10 That's what sharing the arrows is. And now it's time to share the arrows with some people who gave the pro-life perspective and are getting reamed for that and to pray for them to be strengthened and to not back down or apologize. Do not ever say sorry for something that you are not sorry for. and something that is biblical and true. All right, we got one more segment, some interesting comments by Elon Musk. Let me make two little announcements. One is our sponsor,

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Starting point is 00:44:11 or upgrade. Go to patriotmobile.com slash alley for a free month when you use my code alley. Patriotmobile.com slash alley code alley. Okay, Elon Musk just sat down with Dr. Jordan Peterson. for a two-hour interview on Monday, during which he discussed why he has come out against the dangers of what he calls wokeism, why he now considers himself a cultural Christian. In the interview, he said that he was tricked into signing documents to approve of the transition of his son. He says he was manipulated by this in 2022.

Starting point is 00:44:56 Here's stop five. I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier. You know, I was told, oh, you know, Xavier might commit suicide. That was a lie right from the outset? Incredibly evil. And I agree with you that people that have been promoting this should go to prison. So I was straight into doing this. And, you know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.

Starting point is 00:45:27 I lost my son essentially. So, you know, they, they call it dead naming for a reason. Yeah. I... All right. So the reason that's called dead naming is because your son is dead. So my son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke wine virus. I mean, just absolutely tragic there.

Starting point is 00:45:53 And, you know, it's easy to say, how could you not know, how could you not push back against this? How could you not do more? you know, I think he probably considered himself a progressive guy, at least politically independent for a long time. Believe it or not, those who are not Christian conservatives have not seen the dangers of progressivism for as long as we have. And I say that as someone who has seen it a lot, you know, for much less time than some of you, just because of my age. But, I mean, as much as people like to accuse Christian conservatives and evangelicals of being on a slippery,

Starting point is 00:46:29 slope and pushing a slippery slope fallacy and fear mongering and being paranoid. The fact is is that all of our predictions about the destabilization of society because of progressivism, because of the sexual and moral revolution, they've come true. And then some. And so you have to have grace and understanding for people who were not raised the way that we were, who were not seeing things, have not seen things from a biblical light versus darkness, good versus evil, Satan versus God perspective for a very long time who are not familiar with Genesis 1 through 3 and don't see things through that lens. But it sounds like he has really had an

Starting point is 00:47:10 awakening. I think a lot of people did after COVID. I think Joe Biden's presidency has been extremely clarifying for a lot of people to see just how far the left will weaponize the levers of power to go against parents who stand in the way of gender ideology that will stand in the way of the sterilization of their children going so far as to take kids out of their parents' custody. Elon Musk recently said because of the so-called Safety Act that we have covered on this show that he is going to move. I think it was both Tesla and SpaceX, if I remember correctly, out of California and move them to Texas because of this. You'll remember the Safety Act, which has been signed by Gavin Newsom, so now it's a law prohibits schools from requiring teachers and

Starting point is 00:48:04 administrators to disclose a child's newfound gender identity to their parents. And we already know that that leads to suicide and abuse because Yaley Martinez, the daughter of a South American immigrant, the school hid her newfound identity from her mom while she's socially transitioned at school. And then when she told school counselors, my mom's not going to go on board or not going to get on board with this. They removed, they went to authorities who then removed Yali Martinez from her mother's custody. Yali Martinez bounced around to different homes until she finally isolated and removed from the only people who really had her best interest at heart committed suicide. And that's what laws like this will lead to. And I think Elon Musk realizes this.

Starting point is 00:48:52 And I think he also realizes that, okay, the only thing to push back against this darkness is Christianity. And he's absolutely right about that. Here is Sot six. I'm actually a big believer in the principles of Christianity. I think they're very good. So in what sense then are you not religious? Well, so Dawkins just came out of three weeks ago or thereabouts and announced that he was a culture. Christian, right? And so the question... Right. I would say I'm probably a cultural Christian. Okay. I was brought up as an Anglican and I was baptized.

Starting point is 00:49:34 Hmm. Interesting. So we've seen this a lot recently. We've seen Richard Dawkins, which we talked about on the show. We can link the episode so you can go watch that. We've also seen Ayan Hershey. She said that she became a Christian, but I'll talk about that commonality between those in just a second. And then we have Elon Musk.

Starting point is 00:49:54 And it seems to me that I think Ion Hersey Ali, I think she may have actually converted to Christianity. However, in all of their explanations of why they like Christianity, why they're moving towards Christianity, is for practical purposes. And I do think that that is a good step. That's a good development. I think that gets us in the right direction because they realize that the only worldview that has the moral, coherence, as Andrew Walker said in World Magazine, to fight back against the disorder and the incoherence of the progressive zeitgeist, the spirit of this age is Christianity. It is the only one. It is indirect competition to progressivism. It's a view of creation, of the creator, of human

Starting point is 00:50:48 nature, of male and female, of marriage, of reproduction, of the ordering of society, of society, even the designation of borders and nations and laws and civil authorities. All of these things create human flourishing. And it's got its own soteriology, it's got its own eschatology that is in direct competition to every tenet of progressivism. Progressivism causes disorder, disarray, and chaos. Christianity has a civilizational effect. It has an ordering effect.

Starting point is 00:51:24 And you don't even have to be a believer in the resurrection of Jesus Christ to see that. However, it is incoherent not to see that. And, you know, all of us have maybe been in a place of dissonance in our faith and our worldview in the past, but you cannot look to Christianity for its practical benefits without seeing that it is also true. Something that has been so beneficial that has been such a force for freedom and flourishing for 2,000 years is beneficial because it is true, because Jesus is real. There is a reason why we order history based on Jesus's birth and death. He is that central.

Starting point is 00:52:11 He is the keystone of it all. Of all that is good and right and true, he is the source of it. Christianity is beneficial because it is true. Richard Dawkins has mocked the tenets of Christianity, but he wants the remnants of it. He wants the principles to guide our societies, but he doesn't want the belief that has led to those principles. I mean, Richard Dawkins is to blame for much of the mockery and disbelief of Christianity that has led to our God of self, godless culture. that has led to what Elon Musk calls the woke mind virus, to the disintegration of the family of marriage,

Starting point is 00:52:51 of the reality of gender. Go read Genesis Elon Musk. I would say read Genesis 1 through 3, read Romans 1, read John 1, read Ephesians 1, and 2. Those are all good places to start. Elon Musk gets you an ESV study Bible. And come on relatable, by the way.

Starting point is 00:53:10 We'll talk about all of these things. So it's interesting to see this resistance to the results of progressivism by people who previously called themselves atheists. I also think of like James Lindsay, who understands Christian theology really well, I think appreciates a lot of Christian doctrines. At the end of the day, these people at least Dawkins and Musk and, of course, James Lindsay, I think they would all admit the reason that they're not Christians, the reason that they're not religious to answer Jordan Peterson's question is because they don't believe. They don't believe that Jesus is God and that he was born of a virgin, that he died on the cross for our sins in our stead, and that he was raised from the dead three days later. They don't believe that. And so, but the good thing is, is that you can say, God, help me with my unbelief. And even the faith that we are given is a gift of grace, as Ephesians 2 says.

Starting point is 00:54:05 We can't even take credit for that. And that is really good news. So pray for Elon Musk. pray for his child, his son, who will always be his son. Pray for restoration there and pray for his eyes and his mind and his heart to be open. Really interesting moment to be alive, guys. I mean, there is such a need for truth-telling and for love and for clarity and we as Christians with access to God's Word and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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