Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1065 | Kamala Lied, Babies Died

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Today we're recapping last night's debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, which really became a 3-on-1 debate when ABC's moderators fact-checked Trump repeatedly despite refusing to do so with... Kamala Harris. We talk about where Kamala fittingly seemed to shine brightest – abortion – and look at some of the lies that both Kamala and the moderators told. We also touch on Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris, which she posted right after the debate. Then, BlazeTV's own Liz Wheeler (The Liz Wheeler Show) joins to give her thoughts on the debate – what Trump did wrong and what voters should take away from both candidates' performances. Get your tickets for Share the Arrows: https://www.sharethearrows.com/ Pre-order Allie's new book: https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (00:45) Introduction (09:27) Kamala lies about abortion (30:00) Kamala lies about IVF (33:45) Kamala lies about immigration & crime (45:00) Final thoughts (50:00) Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris (54:13) Liz's thoughts on the debate --- Today's Sponsors: Carly Jean Los Angeles — Go to https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com and use code ALLIEB to get 20% off your next CJLA order (one-time use only) and start filling your closet with timeless staple pieces. Jase Medical — Go to Jase.com and enter code “ALLIE” at checkout for a discount on your order. Alliance Defending Freedom — my friends at Alliance Defending Freedom are offering you their free, practical guide called 3 Ways for Parents to Navigate Destructive Gender Ideology in Schools. Just go to joinADF.com/ALLIE to download the guide for free. Good Ranchers — use my code ALLIE to claim the Presidential Promo worth over $1,200 AND also claim $25 off your first box plus free express shipping and bring 100% American meat to your family meals until 2028. --- Links: The Daily Signal: "Under Gov. Tim Walz, Babies Born Alive in Botched Abortions Were Left to Die. Then He Removed Reporting Requirements" https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/08/06/under-gov-tim-walz-babies-born-alive-in-botched-abortions-were-left-to-die-then-he-removed-reporting-requirements/ Family Research Counsil: "Born-Alive Abortion Survivors: Just the Facts - 2024 Edition" https://frc.org/bornalive The Atlantic: "The Abortion Absolutist" https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/05/dr-warren-hern-abortion-post-roe/674000/ Snopes: "No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'" https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ National Review: "No Cops Died ‘in the Line of Duty’ during the Capitol Riot" https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/no-cops-died-in-the-line-of-duty-during-the-capitol-riot/ --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 1064 | My Advice to Trump for Tonight's Debate | Guest: Ron Simmons https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1064-my-advice-to-trump-for-tonights-debate-guest/id1359249098?i=1000669066357 Ep 1060 | Gold Star Families Roast Kamala Harris https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1060-gold-star-families-roast-kamala-harris/id1359249098?i=1000668212697 Ep 1045 | Kamala Harris: America’s Meanest Politician https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1045-kamala-harris-americas-meanest-politician/id1359249098?i=1000664407205 Ep 1049 | Tim Walz: Deployment Dodging & Food Fraud https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1049-tim-walz-deployment-dodging-food-fraud/id1359249098?i=1000665073424 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Surprise, surprise, Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris after last night's debate, which was kind of choppy. But what we're going to focus on today is something that the media refused to highlight. And that is Kamala Harris's evil lies. We are going to fact-check her on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends at Good Rancher. Go to good ranchers.com. Use code alley at checkout. That's good ranchers.com code alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. We are talking about what you probably predicted that we would be talking about today. And that is the debate. We've got a lot of analysis to get to. And then Liz Wheeler will give her take at the end of this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Okay, if you haven't listened to or watched yesterday's episode with my dad, our conversation you should go back and listen to and or watch that because I would say much, if not all of what we said, ended up being true. And we'll go through it all in detail today, but I'll just kind of give you a summary of everything that I think happened last night. I did watch the entire debate even after I wanted to stop watching it. I gave some pre-show analysis with Blaze TV. And I said, I really wish that Donald Trump were not debating tonight, but I lost that battle. So here he is. And what he's got to do in my personal amateur opinion, but this seems to be the consensus
Starting point is 00:01:48 as well, is to seem dignified and unperturbed, untriggerable, disciplined, also compassionate and human. And I said that Kamala is going to try to bait him at every turn. per Hillary Clinton's advice, and he cannot take the bait. He cannot allow his ego to be tipped over. He cannot reach down to pick it up. He's got to focus on the policies. While also coming across, of course, as personal and personable, he should use phrases like, as a father and grandfather, he could talk about the assassination attempt when asked, for example, about gun policy. And he should not, under any circumstances, allow her to annoy him.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He did debate Kamala Harris. And that was the wrong choice, in my opinion, because it was moderated by ABC. And as we talked about yesterday, a study by the Media Research Center found that recent coverage of Donald Trump by ABC has been 93% negative. And their coverage of Kamala Harris, especially since she announced that she was running for the presidency, has been 100% positive. They won't even use words like liberal to describe Kamal Harris, even though she was objectively, according to her votes, the furthest left senator when she was in the Senate. She is a radically left politician, career politician from California. Of course, she was furthest left. even having Bernie Sanders as a colleague in the Senate. Yet ABC knows the strategy. ABC knows the play.
Starting point is 00:03:40 They understand that Kamala Harris has to appeal to Middle America. She cannot lose all of those votes. And so they don't use words like liberal to describe her. The Trump team knew all of that going in. They accepted this invitation. I don't think that they should have. Now, I understand it's kind of a darned if you do, darned if you don't situation. because the Harris team would have said, well, he's just chicken. He doesn't want to debate against a girl. He's just a coward. He won't even bring his ideas forth and debate his ideas to the American people because he's so frightened by Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And yeah, those are schoolyard taunts. That happens in a race. But what he could have said, what his team could have said was, it's not that I'm scared, it's that I won. I already won this debate. I debated your boss, Joe Biden. And all of your policies echo his policies. They're just a little bit further to the left.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And I already dominated that debate. You are part of the Biden-Harris administration. You've been here for the past three and a half years. I already asked your boss to defend the record high inflation and the open border and his radicalism. And he wasn't able to do that. Why would it be any different than you? I don't want to waste America's time with a three-on-one dependent.
Starting point is 00:05:01 which is what it was. And he knew that's what it would have been before that when he was deliberating whether to accept this invitation. And I would rather take my case directly to the American people. And I encourage you to do the same, Kamala Harris. You've only taken one interview that was edited down, allegedly by CNN. And so if you're so confident in the issues and your solution to these issues, then why don't you take it directly to the American people? Why don't you engage with the media the way
Starting point is 00:05:35 that I do and the way that J.D. Vance does? That could have been his response and they could have focused on a stellar campaign. Instead, I believe that everyone's time was wasted last night. Donald Trump started out strong. Kamala Harris started out weak. I was actually surprised by that. I said in my pre-debat analysis that Kamala Harris wasn't going to have a bad night. And even if she did stumble. The media was going to run cover for her that the moderators were going to do her dirty work and all of that was true. But I believed that she was going to perform really well. She didn't start out performing well. She had this weird dry mouth thing going on. Her voice was shaky. And Donald Trump started out really strong. And even just their presence on the stage was such a contrast that I thought,
Starting point is 00:06:21 okay, this might actually go better for Trump than what I thought. Let me go ahead and show you the clip of how this evening started out super awkwardly. I think on Kamala Harris's side. Here is Sot 1. Kamala Harris. How good debate. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. It's an honor to have you both here tonight. Okay, in case you didn't know, in case Trump didn't know, that is Kamala Harris. I just thought that that was really weird and awkward to kind of introduce to yourself. Obviously, he knew exactly who you were. And then it was just obvious to me from there on out by the shaky and her voice and her mannerisms that she was very nervous. Now, she did not stay nervous. She picked up
Starting point is 00:07:11 steam pretty quickly and I'll explain why I think that happened, when I think that happened, and what that tells us. And we'll also obviously get into what I think this debate means for the race, if anything. But first let me pause and tell you about her first sponsor for the day. It's Carly Jean Los Angeles. Y'all, I just did this really fun photo shoot with all of our Carly Jean Los Angeles share the arrows merchandise that is absolutely adorable. It is like my favorite CJLA clothing items that I own now with just saying a lot because I love everything that I own from CJLA. All of their stuff is super comfortable, super versatile. But the t-shirts, the hoodies, the crue necks, the totes, the hats that we have available
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Starting point is 00:08:54 which I think is dumb, by the way, like we talked about yesterday. It's just not something worth denouncing anyone who cares about Project 2025 is not seriously considering voting for Donald Trump anyway. All you're doing, I think, is annoying the people that like Heritage Foundation and like the policies in Project 2025 that have been proposed. And so I just don't really think that there's a point to that, but it is actually true that he doesn't have any part of Project 2025. He didn't help author it. He hasn't said I'm going to implement these policies. I just think that it's bait for him to take and for him to start talking about it. and to be on the defense. And when you're on the defense about something, you look extremely weak.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And that was the first time I saw him take the bait. And yet I don't think that was Kamala Harris's strongest moment. I think her strongest moment was when she started talking about abortion. Abortion is what animates her. Abortion is, I don't think that this is an exaggeration to say what she loves. It is what she has built her career upon when you look. back to her time as the district attorney of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, the furthest left senator in the Senate, and even as vice president. She has done the bidding of Planned Parenthood. She supports abortion through all nine months of pregnancy through any reason or for any reason paid for by the taxpayer. You can actually see that in the Democratic platform right now
Starting point is 00:10:33 that she endorses, which is to overturn the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment protects your federal tax dollars from funding abortion. She explicitly supports overturning the Hyde Amendment to force you, Christian pro-lifer, to fund the slaughtering of unborn children. That's what Kamala Harris stands for. She, of course, voted against the Born Alive Survivor's Protection Act when she was a senator in 2019. team that was authored by Senator Ben Sass that simply said, okay, if a baby survives abortion, a baby outside of the womb, you have to provide that baby health care.
Starting point is 00:11:12 She said it was radical. She voted against it. She voted for those babies to die. And, you know, she's not the only Democrat that has supported that. The governor of Virginia, former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, explicitly said that he supports that. And so did Tim Walls. Tim Walls, who was her running mate. That is the policy in Minnesota. So that's what this ticket represents. And before I get into what Kamala Harris said, I will say for his part, Donald Trump was absolutely right to call out this radicalism in the debate. Here's Sot 3.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born, is okay. And that's not okay with me. Hence the vote. You know, I saw a lot of people on the left, for example, Glennon Doyle, who I would say is like the queen of vapid political takes, who of course is very far left. And she is like the queen of what I call toxic empathy and that is using empathy as a tool of manipulation to get women to believe that the compassionate, righteous, and kind position on any issue is the progressive one. That's why I wrote
Starting point is 00:12:46 my book, Toxic Empathy. That's why I pushed for it to come out October 15th, because I want to give you the tools to push back against toxic empathy and the emotional extortion that I think is used on women by the media, by activists, by people like Glenn and Doyle, even people who call themselves Christians to manipulate you into believing that the progressive position on abortion, on gender, on sexuality, on immigration, on social justice is the righteous one. The truth is, it's the harmful one. It's the untrue one. It is the absolutely destructive one. The progressive perspective on all of the issues I just listed are the disordered chaotic ones and I wanted to explain to you exactly why and to give you all of the tools to combat that.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So that's why I wrote toxic empathy. I'm not just trying to get you to buy my book for the sake of buying my book. It is a toolkit that I want to provide to you, especially Christian women, as many of you as possible. You can pre-order it. It'll be in your hands on October 15th. If you go ahead and pre-order it now, we can put the description in this episode and all of that good stuff. but I want you to have the answers to these really tough conversations. I want you to know the facts about abortion because a lot of people, as I said, like under Glennon Doyle's post about the debate and a lot of a left-wing commentary online said, oh, Trump, I can't believe he's talking about executing babies.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I can't believe he would say that Kamala Harris stands for that. That's so ridiculous. That's not happening. Well, first of all, any form of abortion at any point in pregnancy is the execution of a baby. That's literally what it is. that is the execution of an innocent living human being. So it is murder. And all Democrats stand for that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 She's just very extreme because she really does not believe on any limitations. And she, of course, as I said, voted against the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act, which is protecting babies who survive abortions from execution. And she voted against that. And he is absolutely right when he talks about the state of Minnesota. This is not an exaggeration. I know he talks kind of in a way that sounds hyperbolic, but he's exactly right. So let's look at this because the moderator, David Muir, who is going to have like a statue built of him by the like blue and on lips who absolutely loved that he basically saw it as his job, not to moderate the debate, but to debate Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Not to debate Kamala Harris, but to debate Donald Trump. He inserted himself and he tried to fact check what Donald Trump. just said there and said, there's no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born. But let's look at Tim Walls's state of Minnesota, which of course Trump just referenced there. Data, this is according to Daily Signal, data from the Minnesota Department of Health shows that at least eight babies who survived abortions in the state were left to die between 2019 and 2021. Minnesota Governor Tim Wall signed the Protect Reproductive Options Act in January 23, which repealed, listen to this, which repealed the states born alive infant protection
Starting point is 00:16:02 act, codifying a fundamental right to reproductive freedom and essentially, that's a quote, and essentially prohibited any restrictions on abortion, including gestational age limits. The bill also removed their requirement. Listen to this. For abortion providers to report cases in which infant survive abortion attempts, a measure that has, had been in place since 2015. We are talking about babies outside of the womb. Tim Walls and Kamala Harris believe that they should have no right to health care, that they should be left to die. Children who survive abortions are born alive and left to die can be born alive and left to die in 15 states, including or and in addition to the District of Columbia. In this,
Starting point is 00:16:54 the U.S. there are at least 277 known cases, known cases, all right? Most states don't report this. They don't have to report this. Two hundred seventy-seven known cases of which an infant has been born alive following an abortion. This is according to the Family Research Council. And when I testified on behalf of the pro-life policies that were implemented by the Trump administration as the sole pro-life testifier in Congress before a House Congressional committee. I was sitting next to four abortion activists, one of them, an abortion provider. I talked about some of these stories. I talked about Sequoria Williams, for example, the woman who has told the awful story
Starting point is 00:17:45 of her baby surviving an abortion. She saw her baby struggling to breathe. She saw her baby trying to survive. Of course, then she had a change of heart as she was abhorting her baby at seven months. And they held her back and they threw her baby in a waste bucket. That's how her baby died. Jill Steenak also testified before a Congress several years ago. She was a nurse.
Starting point is 00:18:14 One day on her job in the hospital, she opened. a utility closet and she found a little 22 week old baby who had survived in abortion. He had been aborted because he had Down syndrome. He was still breathing and she held him while he died. These are things you can look up by the way. Again, not hyperbole. Even if there were just one story like that, that is enough to break our hearts. That is enough to ensure that at the very least, these protections are in place. And it's not just that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls didn't author those protections, but actively voted against the protections of unborn children who survived abortion. That is child's sacrifice on this ticket.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So at the end of the day, yeah, Trump didn't do the best job that he could. And we'll still go through that because I think that matters. And Trump should be more pro-life. I wish that he were, especially rhetorically. But at the end of the day, it's a no-brainer for me. I am not going to vote for the ticket and I will actively vote against the ticket. that opposes protecting babies who survive abortions. And if you've got any conscience, you will too.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And by the way, Trump is not exaggerating when he is talking about Ralph Northam here. Let us just take a trip down memory lane, the Democratic governor of Virginia a few years ago, saying, oh yeah, baby who survives abortion? Let's just let her die. Here's up for. If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what we're, would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would
Starting point is 00:20:01 ensue between the physicians and the mother. So, okay, in context there, he is talking about, like, late-term abortions. And he's talking about, like, an induction abortion, which is what happens in the late term where you literally have to induce labor, and then you slaughter the child, and you hope that it works. And he's saying, well, if it doesn't work and, well, would the child get medical care? Maybe, maybe not. He literally said that on radio. So no, he is not exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's exactly what happened. And how dare that fact checker step in and try to help Kamala Harris there. So she doesn't have to be on the hook for her radical and bloodthirsty stance. All right, let me pause and talk about our second sponsor. It's Good Ranchers. You can vote with your dollar right now. Sure, you might have to wait until the end of October and November to actually vote for the president. But you can vote with your dollar by supporting good ranchers because they use only American farms and ranches to get their high quality meat.
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Starting point is 00:21:48 have going on. You can get a free add-on for a whole four years when you subscribe today. When you go to GoodRanchers.com, use Code Alley. You'll get $25 off your first box. Go to ranchers.com, code Alley. Kamala Harris also, of course, tried to employ Christian language to defend her radical, bloodthirsty, rabid stance on abortion. Here's top five. One does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. Yes, you have to suspend your belief in biblical doctrines to vote for the right to slaughter a child, particularly through all nine months of pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:22:43 That's what Kamala Harris supports. And of course, her voting record shows that she also supports, letting those babies who survive abortions die. She has gone after every pro-life pregnancy center in the state of California. She has gone after pro-life reporters. The Biden-Harris administration has weaponized the DOJ against peaceful pro-life protesters, literally imprisoning a pro-life grandmother for standing in front of the entrance of a murder mill praying and pleading with women not to abort their unborn child. Yes, she has had to suspend any
Starting point is 00:23:30 faith that she might profess to do that. And yes, you have to suspend your belief in the Amago Day to support a politician and policies like that. You have to suspend your belief in Psalm 139 that we were knitted together in our mother's womb to support a politician and policies like that. You have to suspend your belief in the commandment against murder to support a politician and a policy like that. Remember, Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. And that's what I was reminded of when I was watching Kamala Harris during this, because this is when it really took off for her. Unfortunately, this is when the debate, her performance at least got a lot better.
Starting point is 00:24:23 She gets extremely enthusiastic and excited and joyful and beaming when she is talking about abortion. Like that is her bread and butter. That is what she is most passionate about. Like that is the keystone of her life, it seems. Like that is her North Star is abortion. And that's why you saw her starting to use her hands. more. That's why you heard her voice start deepening. That's when you saw her really amping up her charisma and her excitement when she started talking about child sacrifice because that's
Starting point is 00:25:05 where she gets so much of her funds for her campaigns, the largest murder mill in the United States, which is Planned Parenthood. And again, that has been her mission to ensure that baby, unmitigated can be slaughtered in the United States and that anyone who stands in the way of that is punished. And if you think the DOJ under Biden has been frightening when it comes to pro-lifers, just wait for Kamala the cop who works on behalf of Planned Parenthood.
Starting point is 00:25:40 She also goes on to say that nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term asking for an abortion. That is not an abortion. that is not happening. That is not an abortion. Of course it's an abortion. Yes, of course that happens. If you've seen the testimony of LeRoy Carhart, he gave testimony a deposition in 1997, and we have quoted it on this podcast several times where he describes what happens in a late-term abortion that he, of course, conducted several times over his career. he is I believe he actually died a couple of years ago and was honored by Planned Parenthood. And unless he repented, we know that he is hearing the screams of the babies that he aborted for all of eternity.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Or at least I, you know, I imagine that's what hell is like for him. But he describes what it was like to reach inside the birth canal and to cut the spinal cord of a child, a living child, while that child, while that child is being induced and delivered. And he described if a child had successfully been killed, starved out by starving the baby of the amniotic fluid before induction and delivering a late-term abortion, the baby would come out like, quote, meat in a crock pot. He's talking about a living human being. He's talking about a baby. You know the story of Kermit Gossnell. Late-term abortions happen.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The best data that we have, even from the Guttmacher Institute, which is the research arm of Planned Parenthood, tells us that at least 10,000 babies a year are aborted in the third trimester. Yeah, that's happening. Unfortunately, it's probably happening more than we even know. Was she fact-checked at all? Did the moderators push back on her, ask her for clarity? No.
Starting point is 00:27:37 The moderators did no such thing. They never pushed back on her. As many lies as she told, she was never given any pushback or asked to clarify any of her stances at all. It was three against one and they were working on behalf of Kamala Harris, which should be an insult to your intelligence no matter what side of the aisle that you're on, by the way. Here's the truth. Eight states and Washington, D.C. impose no term restrictions on abortion. Last year, the Atlantic profile to Colorado abortion doctor Warren Hearn for his work performing late-term abortions, even to 35 weeks, patients come to him from all over the country because he is one of only a handful of physicians who can and will perform an abortion so late.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Kate Carson, she was someone who was interviewed in this Atlantic piece. She got an abortion at Hearn's Clinic in 2012. she said, I put my baby down. Like a dog. She was 35 weeks pregnant with a daughter who doctors diagnosed with multiple brain anomalies. But the diagnosis was not fatal. So because her child had special needs, she brutally slaughtered her child at a time when that baby could absolutely feel pain.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And this is from the author of that Atlantic article. Hearn estimates that at least half and sometimes more of the women who come to his clinic do not have any kind of fatal diagnoses. So women are walking, not that that's an excuse, that would be an excuse, but women are walking in in the third trimester deciding they don't want to be pregnant.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And look, not all of these women are victims of abuse or coercion or manipulation, not even in some kind of dire situation because of the failure of the state or the failure of compassion of other people. Like, remember, women have agency. We have the ability to choose evil. Not all women who have abortions are victims. And that's, of course, what a lot of people would like you to believe. But we have to realize, like, women are capable of
Starting point is 00:29:44 sin. They're capable of choosing murder. And we have to look that in the face and just realize that. And yes, the law should have something to say about that. Obviously, the law should, of course, protect the right of children not to be murdered at absolutely any stage. Harris also lied claiming that Trump is against IVF. Again, this was bait. He shouldn't have taken this. But that, of course, is not true. And he did try to correct that.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Again, did the moderators push back on her? No. Did they try to get her to answer about abortion? No. And here's her non-answer on that, SOT 7. You should ask, will she allow abortion in the eighth month? month, ninth month, seventh month. Come on.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Okay, would you do that? Why don't you ask you that question? That's the problem. Because under Roe v. Way, answer the question would you veto? You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. First of all, I thought the mics were supposed to be muted.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I think it's weird that they allowed her mic not to be muted in seemingly like strategic moments. He's right there. He says that she says that she supports the protections that were in Roe v. Wade. But I mean, it is still and was legal for states to allow abortion for virtually any reason through all nine months. Now, after the point of viability, which is typically agreed to be 24 weeks, though babies born earlier than that have survived, there were certain stipulations, according to Doe v. Bolton, like, oh, it has to be for certain health reasons, but health reasons also
Starting point is 00:31:31 included emotional and mental health. And so, yes, babies were being aborted through all nine months. So when she says that she stands for the protections in Roe v. Wade, I'm interested what she means by protections, by the way. Again, that's such like an ironic, paradoxical euphemism who is being protected. Certainly not the babies inside the womb. Yes, she does believe in abortion through all nine months. Remember, her vote on the Born Alive Infant Survivor Protection Act. Let me pause and tell you about our next sponsor before we get into the rest of it. And that is Alliance Defending Freedom. So I've just told you about some victims who were, who were victimized by the DOJ, people who were
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Starting point is 00:33:33 on the issues that matter. But also you can go there and support them however you can. So go to join adf.com slash alley. Okay, so immigration. Immigration is obviously Trump's, I would say, strongest position. We've got someone in Kamala Harris, who not only has been the border czar for the past three and a half years, has not visited. The border has actively through Mayorkas has actively opened the border and stopped states like Texas and Arizona from protecting their borders. The federal government actively went to the Texas border, removed barbed wire, removed buoys. You'll also remember that the Biden administration, that they targeted the border patrol who were trying to stop the Haitian migrants from entering the country illegally,
Starting point is 00:34:29 literally just like grabbing his shirt that became this whole story about how this mere slave patrol and this is racist. And those border patrol agents were actually put on at least a temporary leave while an investigation was conducted because of that. Like they actually care more about these illegal aliens entering our country than they care about the safety and the security of their own citizens. And she has made that perfectly clear. We played the montage last week of her saying being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime.
Starting point is 00:35:05 What she means by that is that crossing the border illegally should not be illegal. You can come over for any reason under a Kamala Harris presidency. That's what she believes ideologically. That's what she believed when she was Attorney General of California. That's what she believed when she was District Attorney of San Francisco. While she was Attorney General, she pushed for the Sanctuary City. policies that have ransacked places like San Francisco and who was murdered under her watch because of the policies that she advocated for, Kate Steinle, as we talked about yesterday, that 32-year-old
Starting point is 00:35:42 woman who was murdered by an illegal alien who had been detained several times and then released because of sanctuary city policies. She died in her father's arms at 32 years old, crying out, help me daddy. She was murdered by an illegal alien under Kamala Harris's watch. Lakin Riley. She is dead today, a 22-year-old woman going on a jog on a Sunday morning in Athens, Georgia, brutally beaten and murdered by an illegal alien from Venezuela because of Kamala Borderszar Harris's support of open borders. That's who she is. That's what she is advocated for. It's only going to get worse when she continues. If she continues in the White House. So this could be a really strong moment for Donald Trump. I don't think he
Starting point is 00:36:31 did nearly as well as he should have as he could have. I didn't hear Kate Steinle's name brought up. Like I didn't hear Lake and Riley's name brought up. Instead, Donald Trump talked about Springfield, Ohio, and the Haitian illegal aliens there. And look, like I think, or actually, they're not even illegal. They're there because of policies passed by the Biden administration. The temporary protection that 100,000 Haitians were given when they came over here and they were literally shipped to this tiny town of Springfield, Ohio. And they have, it's true. They have, unfortunately, very negatively transformed this city. And there have been reports from members of this town that the Haitian migrants have been taking the geese from the lakes and have apparently,
Starting point is 00:37:21 allegedly I've been taking people's pets and cats that have been roaming around neighborhoods, that they have caused many traffic accidents, and that generally a lot of these migrants, immigrants, have been committing crimes and forcing children into these moments of intimidation. and there's been a lot of troubling stuff from these town hall meetings that these citizens are reporting. And of course, we're not allowed to talk about any of that because apparently it's racist. You're not allowed to care about your children's safety. And you're supposed to just be able to import the third world and not become the third world. But if you do become the third world, it's supposed to be okay. So Donald Trump decided to go that route, which even if it's true, all of that stuff, which it is in large part, I don't know if all of the things being claimed on X are true.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But even if that's true, it's not the way to go. It's not the way to go. That's a very, like, online thing that's going on. And even if it is true, it sounds like a conspiracy theory. It sounds hyperbolic. And that is not the time to bring something like that up that the media is going to say isn't true. It's not the time for that kind of debate. This is the time to bring up Lake and Riley.
Starting point is 00:38:46 like this is the time to bring up Molly Tibbets. This is the time to bring up Kate Steinley. That's, it's the time to bring up the drunk driving incidents with illegal aliens. It's time to bring up fentanyl. That's what it's time for, stuff that is verifiable, that everyone knows is awful, things that happened on Kamala Harris's watch because of the policies that she represented and championed. That's what that is time for.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Because that's what speaks to the suburban mom. There was only one candidate up there who was talking to female voters, and that was Kamala Harris. And Donald Trump, I think, really missed the opportunity here. David Muir, you know, he tried to fact-check him on the Springfield stuff. And, you know, that was just, I think, an unforced error. He shouldn't have brought that up. There are so many things to bring up about immigration that would have been really good for Donald Trump to focus on. and he just he just didn't.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And then he talks about crime. He cited crime data saying that, you know, crime is up and this is in large part due to the lawlessness that has been promoted by people like Kamala Harris. And again, I mean, that's true. She supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund back in the riots of 2020, which bailed violent rioters out of, jail during those George Floyd riots. And one of the men that was bailed out of jail because of the
Starting point is 00:40:21 funds that Kamala Harris promoted ended up murdering a woman just days later. Like there's so many things to hit Kamala Harris on. But here is the moderator trying to fact check Trump when he's talking about lawlessness. Here's SOT 8. Crime in this country is through the roof. And we have a new form of crime. It's called migrant crime. And it's happening at levels of that nobody thought possible. President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country. But excuse me, the FBI defrauding statements.
Starting point is 00:40:55 They didn't include the worst cities. They didn't include the cities with the worst crime. It was a fraud, just like their number of 818,000 jobs that they said they created, turned out to be a fraud. You know, it's just, it's hard. Like that position that Trump was in just there was hard because, like, to the average American, it just sounds like he's being defraud. offensive and angry and almost conspiratorial, even though he is right. He is correct on that.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And that's why it's just not in that instance. Like, that just wasn't fair that the moderator was inserting himself and debating Donald Trump and never did that to Kamala Harris. And again, just to like fact check this. And I'm very thankful for Brie and then our researcher who did just an incredible job fact checking all of this for us. Like Trump is right. The FBI's uniform crime reports did not collect crime reports from a third. of police departments in 2021 and 2022 due to a new tracking system not being fully implemented. And that just happened to exclude the cities with the worst violent crime, the cities that are run by Democrats. Back to immigration, Harris claims that she supported the Senate a border security bill.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And she said, well, this would have helped secure the border. But of course, Republicans stood against that, including Donald Trump. But a fact check on that, that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help that is somewhat, somewhat true. But the truth about it is actually that it permitted over 1.8 million illegal aliens per year that the border security that was guaranteed through this bill would have only kicked in after a 5,000 illegal border crossings per day was reached. And it instituted. It sanctioned catch and release. And so a border patrol agent catches someone. He could be a potential terrorist from Somalia. But it said you have to release them into the interior of the United States. It doesn't stop parole
Starting point is 00:43:01 abuse. Since hundreds of millions to NGOs to facilitate illegal migration requires that any alien who claims asylum be released into the country and granted work authorization almost. immediately. So of course that's why Republicans didn't support it because it wasn't a border security bill at all. Kamala Harris continued to lie. She repeated the very fine people on both sides lie. She said let's remember Charlottesville. And then she described that and she said yeah, Donald Trump said that they're very fine people on both sides. Did ABC push back on this? did they clarify no but snopes did a few months ago it took a while but even snope says no Trump did not call neo-nazis and white supremacists very fine people here's the context of what
Starting point is 00:43:56 trump of what trump actually said a few years ago sought 10 and you had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides you had people you had People in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down to them a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?
Starting point is 00:44:40 I mean, there, he said it. But she understands. Like, she understands most people will just repeat the myth that the media has been pushing for several years. And she knows the truth. That's a malicious, I mean, that's a malicious distortion. She's insulting your intelligence. And unfortunately, she knows that a lot of people will go along with that. They'll just believe what they feel to be true.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Harris also lied and said that police died on January 6th. That is not true. One officer died the day following after suffering a stroke. And that is really sad. But he did not die there. There was only one person that was actually killed by violence. And that was Ashley Babbitt. And she was one of the protesters, rioters that was there. And she was unarmed. And she was shot in the chest by a police officer. And so that's the only person who was killed. she really tried hard to make it seem like she was this middle of the road not Republican or Democrat kind of candidate who really just wanted what's best for America and unfortunately like I think that that could work on some people I think that here's what I think if I were to grade them I think Kamala Harris may be won a few voters I do that's unfortunately the truth and I think that Donald Trump probably did not lose any voters that were going to vote for him, but I don't think he gained any either. I really don't think he gained
Starting point is 00:46:13 anything by doing this debate, unfortunately. And that's kind of what I anticipated. And I was really hoping to be wrong on that. I really was. I was ready to eat my words, to eat crow and say, oh, I'm so glad Donald Trump did that. Kamala Harris's team is actually already asking for a second debate, which is interesting. That means, I mean, I think that means that they thought that she did well. Donald Trump is not. Please. Well, I was going to say is not going to debate her again, but I don't know. I don't know if he will or not.
Starting point is 00:46:47 But gosh, for the love of all things good, don't do it. Don't. Don't. Don't. There's no reason to. Nothing good will come out of it. What, are you going to accept an invitation? What, the host of Morning Joe are going to be the moderators?
Starting point is 00:47:02 How do you think that's going to go? Their commentary after this was, Kamala Harris was superb, superb. She was elegant. She was classy. But she was also joyful. And she also went right in there and baited him over and over and over again. And he fell for it every time. Now that last part is true. She was joyful. Like you guys are completely shameless propagandists. Just completely shameless. She was joyful. She was most joyful when she was talking about slaughtering unborn children. Yep. Molly Hemingway, I think she has some of the most insightful commentary always. She says that ABC News's Lindsay Davis just brazenly lied about Florida's extreme abortion initiative on the November ballot, which would legalize abortion through all nine months of pregnancy with taxpayer funding and no conscience rights. And she's right about that.
Starting point is 00:47:52 The moderator just straight up lied when she tried to fact-check Trump on that. Megan Kelly went after the moderators a lot. She said these moderators are a disgraceful failure. This is one of the most biased unfair debates I have ever... ever seen Ben Shapiro. The moderators are the story of the evening and it isn't a good story. And a lot of people are saying kind of something like this. This is what it sounded like the moderators were doing. Cabot Phillips says, moderator to Trump. When did you first know you were racist? Moderator to Harris. Have you always been this brilliant or did your staggering intellect
Starting point is 00:48:27 just come naturally? That is basically what was happening. I used my amateur sports analysis or analogy rather. And I said they're basically teeing up Kamala Harris from the fairway and forcing Trump to shoot from the bunker every time. And it was tough to watch. He could have done better. Yes, but at the end of the day, it comes down to policy and her policies are chaotic and disordered and his aren't. And that is your job because the media is going to be playing her highlights for the next eight weeks and playing his low lights. Your job is a rationally thinking person as a rationally thinking person as a Christian is to remind yourself and your friends of the policies that are at stake. Can't let your friends get apathetic and fatigued. You can't let them get demoralized.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You have to be active in getting people to vote. I think vote early to register to vote and to vote for Donald Trump. And you're not voting for a pastor. You're not voting for a savior. Both of them have serious, serious moral issues at the end of the day. Who can be pushed towards life? Who is going to secure the border? Who? Who? is going to create more order and peace and prosperity, not just nationally, but internationally. I think looking at his record objectively, it's Donald Trump, and it's not even close. So just keep that in mind, even as someone like Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris. She did last night.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I will get into all of this a lot more tomorrow, and I'll bring producer Brean and we'll go back and forth on all that's behind this, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention this at least a little bit before I get into my conversation with Liz and close out this episode. She posted last night right after the debate. Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight. Doubt. Doubt. I don't think she watched the debate.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Come on. She had all of these remarks prepared again. What an insult to your intelligence. And she says the reason why she's posting about this is because she saw an AI-generated image of herself. supporting Donald Trump. But I don't think that's the real reason why she's endorsing Kamala Harris. I think she was always going to endorse Kamala Harris. There's also been a lot of criticism of her friendship with Brittany Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:50:45 who is apparently a Trump supporter. And so I think that she's running cover for herself. This is, of course, a PR choice. But here's what she says that she has decided after all of her careful research. She says that Kamala Harris is a steady-handed, gifted leader, and that we can accomplish so much more in this country if we were led by calm and not chaos, which of course, again, the exact opposite is true when you look at their policies. She says that she was impressed by her selection of running mate Tim Walls, who has been standing up for LGBTQ plus rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body for decades. So the slaughter of unborn children, that is one of the three reasons. Taylor Swift, this role model apparently for so many young women, is not only voting for,
Starting point is 00:51:37 but publicly endorsing Kamala Harris, who absolutely enthusiastically supports the slaughter of children, both in and outside of the womb. And of course, she has a picture of herself holding her cat. She's supposed to say, you know, she's a childless cat lady, as they have been, you know, making fun of J.D. Vance for saying many years ago, you know, Taylor Swift has this line in one of her songs where she says, I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser. Yeah. We've noticed.
Starting point is 00:52:10 You lack discernment when it comes to your relationships, when it comes to your moral compass, and certainly when it comes to politics. Can you enjoy her music and knowing that she is completely lost? Sure. You can enjoy her music. But do I think you should allow your teenage daughter to look up to her as some kind of role model, knowing that she prioritizes the right to slaughter unborn children and that she is publicly and enthusiastically endorsing that position?
Starting point is 00:52:49 No, I don't. We'll have more on that tomorrow. But I want to get to this conversation with Liz Wheeler. She's got some excellent commentary insight for us to do. day. Before I get into that, let me tell you about our last sponsor. It's Jace Medical. Biden has signed off on a highly classified plan that shifts America's nuclear strategy to focus on China as a nuclear threat and to prepare for the possibility that the communist nation could team up with North Korea and Russia and the United States, which is really scary. That could have a major effect on our supply chain.
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Starting point is 00:53:56 Use code Alliot. Check out for a discount on your order. That's promo code Allie at J-A-S-E.com. Liz, thanks so much for joining us. I really just want to get your general reaction. We were together last night. What were you thinking as you were watching this debate unfold? Yeah, well, I was excited.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I mean, I kind of nerd out on these events. So we were talking about that last night. I do enjoy watching the debates. Last night's debate, I found to be a little bit painful. I was looking at it in three ways. Kamala's performance, Trump's performance, and then the moderator's performance. And I was a little disappointed in how Trump performed.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I think he could have. He has the advantage of being correct on the issues, on the policies, not just correct, in my opinion, but correct the majority of the American people agree with him on border security. The majority of the American people agree with him that inflation is too high and gas and groceries cost too much. They don't want their children to go to war. All of these, they don't want cities to be burned down by Black Lives Matter.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He had that advantage. It was his to lose. but really what I was most struck by was Kamala Harris's demeanor. I know the mainstream media is saying, oh, she won. Even some conservatives are saying she didn't serve up any of her word salads, so she exceeded expectations. But I thought her debate performance was actually startling because she looked us in the eye.
Starting point is 00:55:20 She broke that fourth wall of the camera. And she, without flinching, told lie after malicious, lie. And when I say malicious lie, I mean malicious lie. When you talk about Charlottesville and you accuse President Trump of calling neo-Nazis very fine people, that is a
Starting point is 00:55:40 malicious lie that has been debunked, but it's a malicious lie to accuse someone of engaging in racism like that. And she had ice water in her veins. She laughed at people's at the collective pain of the American people when it comes to inflation. She was
Starting point is 00:55:56 condescending to Donald Trump. And all I could think of as she was telling these lies was this is what she thinks of us. This is not personal animosity towards Donald Trump. They never even met each other until that moment right before the debate started when she said, hi, I'm Kamala Harris. And we were all like, oh, whoa, they haven't met. Yeah. But that's how she feels about us.
Starting point is 00:56:13 She dismisses our pain. She mocks the things that we care about, whether it's our religious values, whether it's our family values. And she is willing, without blinking, to lie to us about really important topics in order to get power. that's a scary proposition if that woman were to be president. She is presenting herself and the media is presenting her as something that she has never been that's down to earth, middle of the road, relatable, independent, pro-working class woman
Starting point is 00:56:44 that really just wants to bring America together. It's the same thing that they pulled with Joe Biden. Joe Biden, it was a little bit more believable because he's a white guy. And so he kind of looks like someone that maybe would understand the blue collar plight, even though we know that's not true. They've had to work a little bit harder at making a career politician from California seem nonpartisan and down to earth. But they've done a pretty effective job. I don't want to say a good job, but a pretty effective job at that. Something that struck me last night was when she kept saying things like, you know, I was a prosecutor and I did.
Starting point is 00:57:25 defend children. Of course, that doesn't include children in the womb. But she said, I've defended children. And when I am talking to victims, I never ask them, if you're a Republican or Democrat, I asked them, are you okay? I mean, that line is directly for the suburban mom. That's exactly who she was appealing to. She wanted to seem normal, conciliatory, compassionate, but also like a fighter that's going to defend the most vulnerable. I think she actually, used that term the most vulnerable. Very well rehearsed, but probably extremely effective for a certain demographic. To me, Trump, as you said, he's correct. Even on the things that he got fact checked on, like most of them were just true. They're just correct. He might have said it not in the
Starting point is 00:58:12 best way. But man, there was only one person on the stage last night that was trying to appeal to female voters, I think. And that was Kamala Harris. And that that, that, was disappointing to me. It was. It was frustrating to watch because you want someone who's on the right side of an issue to also present themselves well
Starting point is 00:58:36 and to be appealing and to reach out to potential voters in the best way possible in a persuasive way. And that's not what Trump did. I found it disappointing because I know he can do it. I know he can stay on message
Starting point is 00:58:47 and I know he can be more pleasant. I mean, we know he's rough around the edges. We know he's kind of at what you see is what you get. You can criticize. his personality, but I personally thought that he should have gotten up there and looked into the camera and said, my fellow
Starting point is 00:59:01 Americans, how much did you pay, how much did you pay this week for groceries? How much did it cost you to fill up your tank of gas this week? And then he should have paused, and then he said, and how much did it cost you for groceries and gas when I was president? Because that's actually the decision that we have to make. Another thing that I would
Starting point is 00:59:17 note is, Kamala Harris was very obviously trying to appeal to suburban women. She even invoked language of faith. when it came to abortion, which is so revolting to me. It actually reminded me of, you know, who else uses the language of faith when it comes to trying to advocate for child sacrifice? And that would be, of course, Satan.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Right. But she didn't answer when she was barely pressed by the moderators. She wouldn't deny that she supported abortion up through, you know, the eighth and the ninth month of pregnancy. She pretended that there was no such thing as states. And I believe there's eight states in our country that, have no restrictions on abortion whatsoever. But she pretended that there was no such thing as laws that deny medical care for babies
Starting point is 01:00:02 born alive after botched abortions. I mean, we have become so desensitized in our culture because we're used to looking at Trump's tweets and saying, oh, that might be unkind or why doesn't he stay on message? But truly, every Christian should be aware of just that one fact that she refused to say that that was wrong. She refused to say that she opposed that. she refused to while she was claiming to stand up for the most vulnerable. She refused to protect these big, healthy babies that are quite literally, and I'm sorry to
Starting point is 01:00:31 be graphic, being ripped apart, limb from limb in the womb. And it just reminded me that for all of Trump's flaws, for all of his past instability, I feel as a Christian that it is my moral duty to vote for Donald Trump because, no, he's not as pro-life as I am. That's true. I am a pro-life absolutist, and I wish he would be too. and I've told him so. But there is no question that he will protect life in the womb so much more than Kamala Harris will that babies will be saved if he's president that would die if she were.
Starting point is 01:01:06 You know, something that I noticed when she was talking last night. First, she started out nervous, as I've already noted. And I wasn't really expecting that. She kind of, her voice was shaky. She had this weird dry mouth thing going on. And I thought, whoa, my prediction that. that Kamala Harris won't have a bad debate because that's what I said in the pre-debate analysis might be wrong. She's a lot more jittery than I thought. And she had that awkward handshake at the
Starting point is 01:01:31 beginning. I was like, okay, Donald Trump might take this away. But when she really started picking up steam, when she gained her confidence was when she started talking about abortion, that is what animates her the most. That's what inspires her the most. That is what makes her the most excited and enthusiastic. Just like if a Christian starts talking about their faith, they start talking about Jesus. Maybe they're a shy person, but when you get them going on theology, they get really excited and articulate about it. We start communicating well when we're talking about things that we're really passionate about. And certainly for the Christian, when we start talking about things that we worship, I don't think it's hyperbole to say that she worships abortion. She worships child sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:02:17 it is the spirit that animates her, the spirit of murdering unborn children. That's when she really came into her own. In a very dark way, that's when she started to shine. And from there, unfortunately, as you mentioned, she started baiting Donald Trump, but it just kind of started getting better and better for her. But that's what I noticed. I mean, talk about a demonic force. The smile and joy on her face when she was talking euphemistically about killing
Starting point is 01:02:46 unborn children, I was like, that's it for her. That is her passion and her goal in life to ensure that our tax dollars fund the mass slaughter of human beings. And that's really been her goal since the beginning of her political career. It's, it's her entire, well, that's one of the interesting things about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is nothing is hypothetical with them. Yeah. They both have, Trump was in the Oval Office. We know, there's no, all these accusations that the left makes, oh, he wants to be an authoritarian, he wants to be a dictator, he wants to do away with the Constitution. Well, that doesn't make any sense because he was in the White House and he did no such thing. We know exactly what he's going to be because he already has been the president.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And it's actually similar to Kamala Harris. She's been in politics her entire career. We know exactly what she's going to do. She's been the vice president for three and a half years and she presided over this open borders crisis that has made our communities less safe that has cost young women like Lake and Riley, her life. Awful, awful stuff. and, you know, she just dismisses it. She won't even visit the border. That's as vice president when she was senator. She was the most liberal senator in the United States Senate.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Something, by the way, that she's trying to distance herself from, not philosophically or policy-wise, but just she doesn't want that talking point following her. So they had that wiped from the web. Even Bernie Sanders said, oh, she's still that radical. She's just trying to be pragmatic about politics, which means that's deception. And she's trying to deceive us.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's what everyone at the DNC and the Democrat Party is doing. there was that clip going around from the DNC where I don't remember what group it was, but one of the speakers says, we just have to act normal for the next, I think he said, like 67 days or whatever it was at that point. And that it's so obvious that that's what they're doing, which is telling because they know that that's not where the country is. One thing that I noticed that definitely was not at the DNC,
Starting point is 01:04:37 that Kamala Harris hasn't been bringing up that wasn't brought up last night, was the issue of gender ideology. and transing the kids and taking kids away from their parents who don't go along with chemically castrating their 12-year-old son. I mean, that's something that Kamala Harris unapologetically stands for. Of course, her state of California leads in that. And I think it was strategic by the ABC moderators not to bring it up. If I were Trump, I would have brought it up myself, though, especially because I think it was just within the 24 hours prior to the debate, there was that story confirming that Kamala Harris had supported transgender surgeries on the taxpayer dime for military members.
Starting point is 01:05:18 He did bring that up. That he did bring. Wait, no. Did he bring that up? Well, not military, not military members. He did bring up. And I think you retweeted it when I posted it that she supports. Yes. Yes. Gender taxpayer funded. Gender taxpayer funded gender transition for detained illegal. She literally said that to the ACLU in 2019. CNN reported it. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's so crazy that that the moderator is just like blasted past that. This is one thing that I didn't like that conservatives did in the lead up to the debate. They've actually done this ever since Kamala Harris was anointed as Democrat nominee is there's this, there's this narrative from the right that says Kamala Harris is dumb. If you look at her word salads or her, you know, her baddy laughter, they're like, oh, she's so dumb. And I actually don't agree with that. I don't think that she's dumb.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I'm not saying that because I necessarily care about the insult or I think it's politically this or that. I actually don't think that she is dumb. I think she's diabolical. And I think that Trump may have underestimated her a little bit last night because she sometimes comes off in a certain way when she does engage in those verbal gaffes. But she was the epitome of prepared last night. She was. And that's why I found her performance so chilling is because it wasn't she wasn't miss speaking when she said these things. She wasn't lacking context for her positions.
Starting point is 01:06:43 She knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to trigger him, get under his skin and bait him based on his ego, like triggering him about his rallies or about where he got his wealth from his father. She was deliberately trying to provoke him. She was lying about his history. I actually wanted him to say, are you trying to get me shot again by telling all these lies that make me sound like I'm Hitler? Because that's why I just took a bullet to the head six weeks ago. He almost kind of did say that. And then as you pointed out, the moderator brushed past.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Which blew my mind. Can you imagine we are less than two months away or we're less than two months past an attempted assassination on the president? They didn't even address that. Right. Didn't even address that. Yeah. Or the divisive rhetoric.
Starting point is 01:07:21 But I don't think Kamala Harris is dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to appeal to suburban women. She was being deceptive about it. And at the end, she said, she turned to Donald Trump and said, we need to stop disparaging people. And I'm thinking to myself, all you did up here was disparage him, which, I don't care as much about two politicians disparaging each other, but he represents us.
Starting point is 01:07:45 He's up there because he, because he's the one that we picked to represent our values. And by disparaging him, she's disparaging us. And she has proven, going back to her history, she was vice president, before that she was a senator, before that she was the attorney general of the state of California.
Starting point is 01:08:01 She's proved to us in California exactly how she wants to treat us as Christians, as conservatives, and pro-lifers. Yeah. We know our friend David Delighton is still entangled in all of the lawfare that she aimed at him. I mean, she raided his apartment. She took his laptops and confiscated footage because he caught Planned Parenthood committing a crime. And she didn't like that because she's cronies with Planned Parenthood.
Starting point is 01:08:22 So she tries to make him a criminal. And she didn't investigate Planned Parenthood. No. Just to see. It'd be, I mean, it'd be one thing if she truly investigated, investigated both of them and found no wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood. Of course she would. But she didn't even invest. investigate just to see if that were true.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Because she also, she also tried to, I mean, she didn't just try. Her state of California passed that law that the Supreme Court overruled. The FACT Act. Yes, the Reproductive Fact Act, which tried to force crisis pregnancy centers to advertise state-funded free abortions. Yeah. That she doesn't care about your First Amendment rights. We've already seen the weaponization of the DOJ against what I believe to be free speech, protesters who are. standing in front of abortion clinics, they're serving time in prison. That's Biden. This is only
Starting point is 01:09:13 going to get worse under Kamala Harris. Okay, tell people where they can find your continued commentary on this because you are a new Blaze TV host, but you are doing what you have long done, which is offering fiery and apt analysis on everything that's going on politically. So where can they subscribe? Yes, and I'm so excited to be part of the Blaze. It's been so fun thus far. We're about a month in. You can, my show is on Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 5 p.m. Eastern. You can go to YouTube.com slash Liz Wheeler. You can listen to it on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or you can watch it on blaztv.com. Awesome. Thanks so much, Liz. Thanks, Sally.

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