Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1097 | ‘4B’ Movement: Anti-Trump Women Are Boycotting Men

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Today, we talk about all of the craziest reactions to Trump's election win, and how the feminists are falling apart at the seams. As expected, the mainstream media had more than its share of overreactions. From The View's Sunny Hostin calling white women who voted for Trump "uneducated" to Jimmy Kimmel crying on air, the left-wing media simply couldn't wrap its mind around Trump's victory. And women all over social media are trying to punish men for electing Donald Trump by... going celibate? After all, if you voted for Trump, you "failed women." Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy ---   Timecodes: (12:03) 4B movement (16:41) Gen Z men for Trump (23:27) 4B in South Korea (26:52) Impacts of 4B  (38:04) Message to 4B women (41:18) TikTok wrong election prediction (44:42) “Uneducated white women” (50:39) Jimmy Kimmel crying (54:16) Social media reactions  ---   Today's Sponsors: America's Christian Credit Union — Switch to America's Christian Credit Union today for faith-aligned banking with exceptional rates and nationwide access. ACCU will donate a box of EveryLife diapers to a Christian pregnancy resource center for every new member who opens a checking account before January 31st, and pay a $100 bonus to a new account when you sign up with code "ALLIE". Visit https://www.americaschristiancu.com/allie to get started! Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' for a free month of service! My Patriot Supply — Prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get your new, lower-price Emergency Food Kit at PrepareWithAllie.com. Order your 3-Month Emergency Food Kit. NetSuite — gain visibility and control of your financials, planning, budgeting, and inventory so you can manage risk, get reliable forecasts, and improve margins. Go to NetSuite.com/ALLIE to get the CFO's guide to AI and Machine Learning. ---   Relevant Episodes: Ep 1096 | Why Trump Won https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1096-why-trump-won/id1359249098?i=1000675956835 Ep 1095 | Our Election Predictions https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1095-our-election-predictions/id1359249098?i=1000675821555 Ep 953 | Andrew Tate Is Wrong About Marriage | Guest: Dr. Brad Wilcox https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-953-andrew-tate-is-wrong-about-marriage-guest-dr/id1359249098?i=1000645909138 Ep 656 | The ‘Family Diversity’ Myth | Guest: Dr. Brad Wilcox https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-656-the-family-diversity-myth-guest-dr-brad-wilcox/id1359249098?i=1000575407311 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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winning, saying things like this. Ladies, we need to start considering the 4B movement like the women in South Korea and give America a severely sharp birth rate decline. Well, we're already experiencing that right now. So she says no marriage, no childbirth, no dating men, no sex with men. We can't let these men have the last laugh. We need to bite back. And here is a response to that that also has almost 20,000 likes on it and thousands of retweets or reposts. Reminder that the 4B movement and the separatist movement in general isn't just about avoiding men. It's also about supporting and investing in women. Seek out relationships with women, women-owned businesses, women-made media, et cetera.

Surround yourself with women in our culture. Oh, my goodness. How radical. Here's another post. Ladies, I'm being so for real when I say this, it's time to close off your wounds to males. This election proves now more than ever that they hate us and hate us proudly. Do not reward them. She goes on to say, I am very much a radical feminist.

I just don't talk about it. it much. But I am literally so serious. Guard your womb seriously. Guys, she's serious. She's literally so seriously serious. If you choose to be with a male, make sure he actually values and respects you as a human effing being. This is ridiculous. For B movement, this is 107 likes, 22,000 reposts. No sex, no childbirth, no dating and no marriage with men. The women in South Korea are doing it. it's time we join them. Men will not be rewarded nor have access to our bodies. Okay. Someone else says block out male opinions. This is not just happening on X. This is also happening on TikTok, an app that I have never, ever opened in my life. Here is Sot 2. I personally think that if all

of these men are voting to take our rights away, they don't deserve to touch a woman for the next four years. So hope you thought that through you guys Okay I'm not really sure if that's like If that's a major problem That some of these women are having That men are just so all over them That they have to be like, no Donald Trump won

Don't touch me Here's a screenshot from a TikTok video I think it's time for American women to participate In our own 4B movement If men won't respect our bodies They don't get access to our bodies and here is SOT 3. I meant stop dating men.

Stop having sex with men. Stop talking to men. Divorce your husbands. Leave your boyfriends. Leave them. They don't give a shit about you. And I promise you, come over to this side. I will bake cookies.

I will shave your head if you want me to. Depending on how this turns out. Okay, again, like, I'm just not, I'm just wondering, like, is this like a problem for a lot of these women that they're, like they've got men just like busting down their door being like, date me, have my children. And they have to just beat them off with a stick and say no. I will not because I am protesting Donald Trump's existence and that 55% of you men voted for Donald Trump. Here's what they're referring to. They're referring to the fact that according to NBC, Trump won 50,000.

55% of men and 45% of women. So because the majority, which not even that much of a majority, but the majority of men voted for Donald Trump and they've got to boycott all men. And even among young voters, 18 to 29. And so, Gen Z, Trump won 42% of those voters. This is up 6 percentage points from 2020. by the way, but specifically among men. He won 49% of those voters versus 47% for Harris.

And so even there, he got a larger share of Gen Z men than Harris did. And then you've got that gray area in there who did not vote for either candidate. And so the feminists are upset by all of this. I think it's really incredible that so many young men did vote for Trump. I think that that number should be higher. And I think that we can even get those young women. But that's what all of these people are reacting to. And the Washington Post actually has a piece about this 4B feminist movement in reaction.

And they asked to this USC professor what he thinks about this. And he said Trump was explicitly appealing to young male voters during his campaign. Meanwhile, American women see that young men are voting for this conservative candidate who is threatening their bodily autonomy. And so that is where all of the sadness and anger is coming from. So let's talk a little bit more about this for B movement, where it comes from, what it is. Is it really going to catch on here in the United States? Is this something that is remotely. justified. So this is according to, there's a few outlets that have covered this, the telegraph, the week, the cut over the past few years. This is not exactly new. The 4B movement began in South Korea in 2019 from a number of previous online feminist movements, including something called Escape the Corset movement that called for women to liberate themselves from sexual, social, bodily and psychological oppression. And this was along with South Korea's Me Too campaign, as with

other South Korean digital feminist movements, one noteworthy aspect of the 4B movement is that its members frequently refer to themselves as anonymous women. So it really started as kind of like an online forum for women to freely discuss how to navigate and imagine life without men and creates a sense of solidarity among women. So really, it's like a female in-cell movement. Like if you know what involuntary celibacy is in cell, that typically refers to these men online who really hate women and they have their own online forums, whether it's on Reddit or whether it's

4chan. A lot of times they're described as right-wing men, but I don't think that's necessarily true. I think it spans the political spectrum and what unites them is that these young men feel like they have been unjustifiably rejected by women. And so they comfort themselves by, instead of, you know, evaluating their own faults and weaknesses, they chastise and castigate women and demean and degrade women. They will say that women are stupid, that women shouldn't be able to vote, that all women are sexually promiscuous, that they're. not useful in any way. And of course, many of these young men are porn addicted and extremely

violent, at least in their rhetoric. And so it's a small percentage of people, but certainly that has existed and grown over the past several years online. Well, this is the female version of that. Both of these groups like to imagine what the world would be like without the opposite sex. Of course, like this kind of thing goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden, the enmity between male and female and even the power struggle between husband and wife. That is fundamental in our sin nature. This is a manifestation of brokenness. And that's why the Christian depiction of marriage, as we see in Ephesians 5, is so beautiful because husbands are called to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

and wives are called to submit to their husbands as to the Lord. And so both are called to a form of sacrifice that is supposed to be reflective of this eternal gospel reality of Christ in the church. You know, at the time, the call for husbands to love their wives in this self-sacrificial, self-denying way was radical in that culture. The call for wives to submit to their husbands wasn't radical because it was a patriarchal society and not, in a good sense at all, in a sense that men were really seen as the only valuable, fully valuable members of society, the only fully, the only members that could truly contribute to society. And so for a husband to be told that you must be faithful to and serve your wife, that was radical at the time and really revolutionary for society and really created a different

dynamic in marriage and a different example in marriage in which the husband, yes, was leading his wife, but loving and serving and cherishing his wife as Christ loves and serves and cherishes his church. And so marriage today still is this radical and revolutionary counter to the world's constant struggle between male and female and constant rejection of God's order and design and purpose for men and women. So all of this is happening in light of that eternal reality as well. This particular 4B movement is not organized. It's not centralized.

One article estimated 50,000 adherents. others say 5,000. And so a lot of women in America that are talking about this online because this really has a ton of traction among left-wing women. I think they believe that like all of South Korean women are like this are not getting married. It's not true. Like, again, it's decentralized. It's mostly anonymous people online. As far as we know, it's not even women. Like it could be men. Who even knows? And it's very small. Fenders of this group and movement point to South Korea's 41.5% incidence rate of intimate partner violence in a 2016 study compared to the 30% global average. So there may be some legitimate issues in South Korea and how women are treated. I am not trying to belittle those real problems that may exist at all. I'm just saying that the the attempt to mimic some kind of radical feminist movement here in America, not only is it not justified, but I think it's just silly and counterproductive. Also, this is in light of and maybe has contributed to in some way South Korea's dropping birth rate. It has the lowest birth rate in the world in 2018, it dipped below the symbolic figure of one baby per woman for the first time and fell again to just 0.87 in 2019, well below the

the 2.1 requirement to maintain a stable population. And so, I mean, just economically, that is absolutely disastrous. South Korea is a beautiful country and it needs children to survive. Every country needs children to survive, but it also just makes you better people. It makes you better citizens. It makes you more compassionate, more selfless, a harder worker. You have a better understanding of what is at stake in the future, this antinatalist nihilistic mentality that has taken over in many countries, especially here in the West, will be our downfall. And again, this goes back to the very beginning. Like, what was the first charge that Adam and Eve were given, be fruitful and multiply? So it shouldn't surprise us that sin also manifests itself in the cessation

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And what's the difference, by the way, like if you think men and the patriarchy are out to kill you and you were also out to kill yourself, like, what is the fight over if both ends in female extinction here? Feminist outlet, Mama Mia, this is very depraved and explicit, so just be warned, says that we've officially reached a point in history where sex toy technology is so advanced. We can literally simulate sex along with any sex act. We desire growth. This is so much like the male in-cell movement that they are promoting like the use of sex robots and sex dolls and all of this stuff. But again, the Christian understands that sex is not just a physical act, that it is also like the binding of the body, the heart and the soul. That's why it is so difficult and so heartbreaking and reap so many consequences when sex is.

outside of marriage. And women especially are negatively impacted by that, no matter how many women online might try to claim that they can have sex with tons of guys and it doesn't affect them at all. I mean, sure, it's possible for your heart to become calloused for you to have a heart of stone. And so you have convinced yourself that that kind of thing doesn't affect you. But of course, that's not what the body is for. Gosh, God loves us so much. Like he loves the body. He loves men and women. He loves marriage. He created sex. Sex is this beautiful gift that he intended exclusively for one man and one woman in the context of marriage that can potentially by his blessing bear the fruit of children. Like what a beautiful union. What a beautiful way to create the bedrock. of society, which is the family, husband, wife, mom, dad, and children. But when sex is taken

outside of that context, it is always going to have consequences. And that includes when you are simulating it with this kind of technology that will never actually replace the intimacy that your heart longs for. That's not going to fix loneliness. That's not going to give you camaraderie that is not going to satisfy your internal longing to know and to be known. And marriage can satisfy that only so much. Really, we can only find those things in Christ. And the God who actually created us because only the one who created us can tell us who we are and what we're for. The article goes on to say that this has been on the rise for quite some time now largely because women tend to glean far more meaningful emotional support, validation, and

verbal affection from their friends and from their male partners. That is just not true. Like, it's just not true. I mean, you're deluding yourself. And look, I don't idolize marriage. I don't even think that we, anyone is on the brink of doing that. I don't think that's like a huge problem that our country faces, but I know I have single woman listening. So I don't want you to think that all of happiness and fulfillment exists within marriage and having. in kids because in Christ you can fully find those things and friendships are so important. And I love my friends so much. Like I've always been a girl's girl. I've always had great female friendships. I'm so grateful for that. But of course, they pale in comparison to my husband

because my husband knows me and knows me so much better, my weaknesses and my strengths than anyone else. And like he is the father of my children. And so the beauty that he sees in me, the validation that he can give me is so much more profound than any of my friends can give me. And it should be that way, by the way. Like he has seen everything that my body has had to go through to have our three beautiful children. And so the validation and the love and the affection that he shows me in light of the sacrifice that my body is made, It's like it's really, really meaningful in a way that no one else. It doesn't matter if anyone else gave me a compliment.

It just doesn't carry the same kind of weight that my husband's does for me. And that is absolutely how it should be. So I almost think that just as this in-cell male movement is trying to, trying to coddle themselves and trying to help themselves feel better by convincing themselves that they only need other dudes, I think this movement seems. to be doing the same thing. And let me just, I just want to, like, disappoint you a little bit. If you are convincing yourself that this girl power movement is really going to save you and that you are in solidarity with thousands or millions of women across the world that are sticking it to

the patriarchy, like all of your friends that are in your group text claiming that they are going to be a part of this 4B movement, they're not deleting their wedding Pinterest boards. I promise you. Like they are still thinking about what they want their wedding dress to look like. They are still looking at pictures of engagement rings. They are still on their dating apps. And as soon as they get a strapping guy that comes along, asks them on a date, opens the door for them and pays for their meals, they will forget feminism so fast. That is the, I would say the majority of women. Not all women.

I know many women who in their college days, fancied themselves liberal feminist. And then they found a good Christian guy who set them straight in a lot of ways and influenced them in a really good way, didn't force them to think anything and didn't belittle them or demean them in any way, actually respected their intellect and their opinions a whole lot. But just by how he lived his life and the things he said, like led these women in a better direction. And I think that's beautiful. Now, I love that in the same. But also, on the other hand, is what I meant to say, I don't really recommend that men like find a liberal woman to then date and marry because I think that could cause problems. But I do see that

Ginzi being more conservative on the male end of things, I think that that does bode well for women because the desire that all women have, that most women have as kids to get married and to have children to take care of our dolls and to channel our natural nurturing towards children, that doesn't just go away because culture changes or because 55% of men voted for Donald Trump. Like most women are still going to be looking for that. We've had Brad Wilcox on a couple times. He is the head of the Family and Marriage Institute, I think is what it's called.

It is not in my document at the University of Virginia. And so he studies and publishes a lot of work on the importance of marriage and family and how it actually leads to happiness and satisfaction among men and women. And this is from his book, Get Married. He said, married men and women say they are happier and have more meaningful lives than their single peers. In 2021, 60% of married mothers, ages 18 to 55, reported that their lives were meaningful most or all of the time.

Only 36% of single childless women of the same ages said their lives were that meaningful. Looking again at women ages 18 to 55, 75% of married mothers reported in 2022 that they were either completely or somewhat satisfied with their lives compared to 54% of single childless women. So it's just a lie that, oh, these married women that they are feeling so apprised. and so trapped. Of course, I mean, there are women in bad marriages. I'm not saying that that doesn't exist. But in general, marriage and having children actually leads to overall satisfaction in your life. Lou in Alaska, she's someone that I followed on X for a long time. She's a pretty fun follow. She said the unhinged left. I hope every Republican woman gets pregnant with a baby she has to raise. All of my conservative female friends. Oh, M.G. Me too. I love her.

babies. I mean, also, don't threaten us with a good time that you are considering only having sex with the man that you are one day married to. Like, I am happy for you if you are no longer having like promiscuous sex with guys with one night stands, guys that you meet on dating apps, your boyfriend. I don't want that for you. So if this leads you to, not having sex and then maybe one day you meet a Christian guy and you wait to have sex before you get married, I'm happy for you. I think that that is very positive. I think that is a great development. I was on a podcast and I was asked, like if you could change one thing in the culture today that you think would help us go in the right direction, what would it be? And this was apparently

a surprising answer and I said I would get rid of sex outside of marriage. I think if you got rid of sex outside of marriage, you would end most societal problems that we face today. Unwanted pregnancies, STDs, infidelity, broken homes, broken marriages, broken hearts, broken bodies. I mean, it wouldn't fix everything, but it would fix a whole lot. It'd fix a whole lot. And so thank you, four B ladies, for helping contribute to that. It's not really all that surprising that we have a subset of women who are acting in very dramatic fashion to Donald Trump winning. But guess what?

Here's just like what a couple things I want to say to the women who might find themselves genuinely scared of Donald Trump's presidency. Your life is going to get better. Gas is going to be more affordable. Groceries are going to be more affordable. You are going to feel safer. Housing costs are hopefully going. going to go down and your life will get better. Look, I think that the right to life is a human

right. It is. It's not that I think that. It is. The right to not be murdered in or outside of the womb is the most fundamental human right. And so I don't think it should be up to the states. But Donald Trump disagrees with me. He thinks, okay, after Dobbs, it's up to the states. He's going to leave it at that. So that means that if it is so important, it to you, woman, to live in a place where you can have an abortion, if that is really as important as you people think that it is, which I think is sick and depraved, then you can move to a state that allows it. You know, there are eight states that tragically allow abortion through all nine months. Like, if it is real, like, let's test this. If you think that this is the most fundamental

issue, the greatest issue, then why don't you flee like a refugee to? California or to Washington or to Oregon or to Illinois or to New York. If this is so important to you, is it really that hard for you to leave Arkansas and to move over a few states to New Mexico? I mean, we have people that try to flee North Korea to try to find a place that will protect their fundamental rights. And you can't even make a road trip from Arkansas to Missouri, where they now unfortunately will allow abortion through all nine months. So I don't believe you when you say it's that important. Like if you're not even willing to move within your own country for that so-called right to choose.

And so are you just being dramatic? Really think about that. And more importantly, think about the fact that those babies that you are crying and dying to kill are human beings with rights. But maybe now, because hopefully there will be fewer women having sex outside of marriage, maybe there will be fewer surprise in unwanted pregnancies. That would be a really good thing. All right.

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well-founded. But there was some unfounded confidence on the other side, especially among women who said, oh, women are going to come out and vote in protection of our reproductive freedom. Here's Sot 13. Okay, so we're closing in on almost 5 p.m. Eastern time, and I've been tracking everything that's been going on across the country today. And my most important encounter was when I went out to get my champagne. I was talking to the guy in the store, of course, asking him, did he vote? And he said he did early voting, and he asked me if I early voted. And he asked me, you know, why I was getting the champagne.

And I said, because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight. And he just looked at me with kind of like a smirk on his face. And I said, you know, she's going to win this. right. And he says, oh, well, it's very, very close. And I said, no, it's not. He says, well, what do you mean? I said, no, it's not. The women of America are making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all comes down to. And the women are voting in numbers relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And I said to him, she's going to take every one of the swing states plus Iowa. And he said, oh, but the numbers are so close. I said,

I'm a political analyst. I'm telling you right now. The numbers are there. She's taking this election. And I said to him, you realize, and he didn't tell me who he voted for, but of course I knew. And I said, you do realize you wasted your vote, right? And I didn't care. And I walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home. Bye-bye. The grocery store clerk knew better than this so-called political analyst. I wonder how she's doing today. Hmm. Well, it seems like enough women cared more about the price of their groceries and the safety of their children than the ability to kill their child.

Yikes. There were quite a few other meltdowns by female voters after the election, especially on the view. Here's stop for. Uneducated white women is my understanding. You have Latino men actually voting more for him. And you have, and black men was not the story. We're not the story here because they voted almost 80% for the vice president. So why do you think that uneducated white women voted against. their reproductive health freedoms and why do you think Latino men voted in favor of someone that's going to deport says he's going to deport the majority of his community. White women like being called uneducated white women. I think the economy matters, national security matters. But when you put people in these boxes, I think that's a takeaway from this, right? Um, uneducated white women. I would go up against Sonny in a debate any day. come on Sonny come on come on the show let's see who's uneducated let's see who makes the better argument

now what she means by that is that women who have maybe fewer degrees but we know in this country because of the state of academia that the number of degrees you have is not necessarily an indication of how smart you are it is certainly not an indication of how smart you are it is certainly not an indication of how wise you are. Like I or anyone in my audience, I would put up against any of the ladies on the view any day. And we could all get out our popcorn and we would have a really good time. Come on. I'll come on the view and we can see who is uneducated and who's not sunny. Now, these people are never going to learn. They're never going to learn.

They lost the electoral vote. They lost the popular vote. They lost the Senate. It's looking like they lost the House. And they still do not see that they are the freaking problem. You, Sonny, are the problem. We don't like you. We don't want to be associated with you and people like you and the policies that you advocate for because they're bad.

dumb. It doesn't take someone with a master's degree or a PhD to say, I don't think men are women. It really doesn't. And actually, if you are less likely to see that men can't become women, the more degrees you have, maybe actually you're getting dumber every year that you continue to go to school. Does that register? Does that make sense at all? But of course, white women's women always have to be the scapego because the majority of white women, a slim majority, but the majority of white women did vote for Donald Trump. And I will happily take credit for my tiny part in ensuring that Christians of all different races are voting for Donald Trump, but the majority of my audience is white women. And so I did my small part in this and I am happy that it

made Joy read angry. Here's thought seven. If you can't flip enough white women, and we've talked about this on this set numerous times, is that you have a state where you've got a six-week abortion or a 12-week abortion. I think there might be 12 weeks. Yep. But it's a state where women lost their reproductive rights, where there was a very heavy push to get women to focus on not putting in place, you know, re-electing, putting back into

the White House, the person who was responsible for taking those rights away and restoring them. But that message obviously was not enough to get enough white women to vote for Vice President Harris, a fellow woman. Yeah, because a lot of us don't want to vote on abortion. Like when you say you're voting for women or you're voting for your daughters and you're talking about the right to kill our daughters and our granddaughters, that's just not a convincing case. Like we don't want that right. We don't think that you should have legal access to be able to kill your kids and for your kids to kill your grandkids. We think that's a really bad thing. And by the way, some people also saw the truth that no matter who is president, like nothing is going to change with abortion.

Like Kamala Harris getting into the White House wouldn't have changed anything about miscarriage care. She wouldn't have been able to change anything when it came to abortion. She doesn't have that power that would have had to go through Congress. She was never going to have both chambers of Congress at the beginning anyway. And so that wouldn't have changed. She couldn't just restore Roe by a swipe of her pen or by a wave of her wand that was never going to happen. Again, if you want to get an abortion, you can unfortunately still go to several states where that is fully legal. some cases through all nine months of pregnancy.

And so, no, it just wasn't very appealing. And Kamala Harris did everything she could to go after that white woman vote. I mean, I wonder how Kate Cox feels right now that you used your dead child, that you traveled out of the state to kill because that child had special needs. Like you used her to try to win elections, both Kamala's election and Colin All Reds election, for nothing. For nothing. Like, was it all worth it? It's very sad.

And I pray for you, Kate Cox, because there's just something very, very deeply wrong there. While we've got Jimmy Kimmel, who is very, very upset by this, he's actually literally crying. talking about Donald Trump winning this election. Here's not nine. Let's be honest, it was a terrible night last night. It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants who make this country go,

for health care, for climate, for science, for journalism, for justice, for free speech. It was a terrible night for poor people, for the middle class, for seniors, who rely on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine, for NATO, for the truth, and democracy and decency. And it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him.

And guess what? It was a bad night for everyone who voted for him, too. You just don't realize it yet. Oh, I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I voted for Trump, and terrible things are going to happen. Oh, no. my groceries will be more affordable.

Boo-hoo. Also, it's a bad night for immigrants and his voice starts trembling when he says that. Okay, again, it was 55% of Latino men that voted for Donald Trump. And a large, a large segment of Latino women, too. All of the border counties in Texas voted for Trump and Cruz. Cruz had like a 38 point swing from 2018 when he ran last to this election among Latino voters. Unbelievable. Latino voters like Donald Trump.

And they want illegal immigrants to be deported too because many of them did it the right way. They want their process to be honored. They want citizenship to actually mean something. They want to protect their border communities that are being absolutely ransacked and ruined by the violence of the cartels and the trafficking that is incentivized by open borders. And they know that Kamala Harris was the borders are and allowed that to happen. And so there you go. I would also love to wonder these liberals like Jimmy Kimmel who said this was a bad night for poor people.

I would love to know how much you donate to charity to help poor people every year. I would just like to know that. Maybe it's a lot. I would just like to know. We're going to be all good. And Jimmy Kimmel, your life is going to be totally fine too. All right, we've got a few more reactions to get to. Let me pause and tell you about our last sponsor for the day.

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download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at net suite.com slash alley. The guide is free. to you at net suite.com slash alley. Christina Applegate on X. This is, I can't picture her. She's an actress, right? Blonde. Yep. What was she in?

Oh, now I'm blanking too. She was in some stuff a while ago, but most recently she was on a Netflix show. She's very well known. Christina Applegate. Okay. Oh, yes. Yes.

I don't know what was her most famous. Oh, she was an anchorman. man. Yeah, she was. That was maybe the most famous thing. She did. I guess she was in friends at some point. I don't know. Dead to me on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, she said this on X. Oh, I lost my spot. Okay. She said, why? Give me your reasons. Why? As if, like, people haven't been saying that for a long time. My child is sobbing because her rights as a woman may be taken away. How will is your child? Why? And if you disagree, please unfollow me. So do you want to know or not? Do you want to know our reasons or do you just want us to unfollow you? I don't know. If you want to know why,

you can go back and listen to some episodes of Relatable. We have lots and lots of good reasons. Bree is typing to me. Her daughter is 13. This is unstable, unwell behavior. I saw some interactions that some liberals were posting on TikTok between them and their children, they told their child, like young children, I'm talking about like five years old. Donald Trump won and their child starts sobbing. You have failed as a parent if your child knows that much about what's going on politically. No, that is not engaging them in a way that is like healthy and helpful. I do think, like, our oldest knew that we were voting and I said America is this amazing country where we have a right to vote and to make our voice heard and we get to pick the better leader. And so that's what

mommy and daddy are doing. And it's awesome. We thank God that we live in America and we thank God for our freedoms. That's about it though. And of course we said that we voted for Donald Trump. And that's about it. Okay. And you know, different ages call for different things. Different maturity levels call for different things. I'm not saying that we should keep our children in the dark. But if your child is that emotionally invested to the point to where they are crying, they're crying because Donald Trump won first of all you've led them astray but you've also scared them you haven't protected their little hearts and minds to know that like God is in control it's going to be okay um you know no matter who won no matter what side of the aisle you're on

they should not be like tuning in to MSNBC 13 hours a day like you are that's that's not good like allow them to be kids, involve them to a level that is appropriate, but also just like allow them to be kids. Now I say all that and also know that I was the weird eight-year-old that was trying to stay up all night when it was George Bush versus Al Gore and I didn't want to go to sleep and my parents had to lie to me and say that George Bush won so I would go to bed. So I guess, I don't know, maybe these kids are like I was. But my parents really were not idolizing politics and trying to like get me super involved i was just that kind of person which is why i do what i do now um harry sisson said america failed women tonight trump bullied assaulted and stripped reproductive rights away from women all

across the country you still have reproductive rights you have the right to reproduce is the thing after that that is restricted and regulated because then you've created a unique person um and harry says instead of standing against it, many voted for it. We have failed our daughters, mothers, and sisters. Harry, I will never ask you to defend me. In fact, I think that if we were together and there was some kind of threat and someone came along to assault us, I think that my instinct would be to be the one that to stand up and punch him myself.

I think that that, like, that is the feeling that I get from you that you would not ever defend me, even if you had the opportunity to. Simone Biles, who is a product of like a wonderful pro-life story herself, went to foster care, was raised by, I believe it was her grandparents. Mr. Biden, I need you to stand up, straighten your back and make some things shake before your departure. XOXO, XO, the women in America. What does that even mean? What does that mean? Or like what? Enshrine abortion through all nine months before Donald Trump takes office? I actually think, and I've seen some people suggest this, I think that Trump should just go ahead and take office now

because we basically don't have a president. Kamala's not capable. Biden's not capable. We have no idea who's running the country. We're in a very vulnerable, precarious position. Like, why don't we just go ahead, speed things up, have them start right now? But before that happens,

make sure that you delete your period trackers. Tina on Axe says, This has 200,000 likes. Immediately stop using period and pregnancy trackers in the U.S. Don't put another piece of data. Put in another piece of data. Delete it. Okay.

Because Trump, Donald J. Trump is going to be hacking your flow app to see if you had cramps yesterday. Okay. That's normal and sane behavior. I am very glad that you guys did not get the political representation that you voted for. Okay, we shouldn't be held hostage by unwell, unstable people who think things like this. It was God's great mercy on our nation. This just goes to show, though, in all serious, guys, like we've got a lot of work to do,

culturally and morally, especially as women and engaging our friends in the truth of God's word. I'm not even talking about politics. Politics is downstream from our theology. And so we got a lot of work to do. We've got like, I hope share the arrows truly is the movement that people think it's going to be because we got to bring more and more people into the stabilizing and the sanity-inducing truth of God's word. All right. So we've got a word cut out for us, but we can do it. God has called us to this moment.

All right. That's all we got time for this week. We'll be back here on Monday.