Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1127 | The Islam-LGBTQ Alliance Taking Over the West — and Targeting Christianity | Guest: Andrew Sedra

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Today, we sit down with Pastor Andrew Sedra, founder and lead pastor of Echo Church in Australia, to discuss how the church in America and the West has been weakened by leftist ideology and why so man...y Christians are leaving what he calls the "feminized" church that appeals so much more to woke women than to men. Andrew tells us about what it was like growing up Christian in the Middle East and how Christianity in the Middle East is being completely eradicated. We also talk about what Andrew says is an "unholy alliance" between Islam and leftist ideology and how it is colonizing and taking over the West. And Andrew tells us more about Australia's COVID tyranny and why America is truly exceptional with its values and laws surrounding freedom of speech and religious expression. Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (01:07) Pastor Andrew Sedra introduction (02:38) Feminization of the church (11:37) Growing up in the middle east (15:45) Leftists being pro-Islam (19:52) Why communism hates Israel (23:40) Anti-Israel shift on the right  (27:58) Misplaced mothering and COVID tyranny (36:40) American exceptionalism (39:30) Reaction to LGBT progressivism ---   Today's Sponsors: Seven Weeks - Experience the best coffee while supporting the pro-life movement with Seven Weeks Coffee; use code ALLIE at https://www.sevenweekscoffee.com to save up to 25% and help save lives. Good Ranchers — Go to GoodRanchers.com and use code ALLIE at checkout to claim $25 off, free express shipping, and your choice of FREE ground beef, chicken, or salmon in every order for an entire year. A’del — Try A'del's hand-crafted, artisan, small-batch cosmetics and use promo code ALLIE 25% off your first time purchase at AdelNaturalCosmetics.com Hillsdale College — Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses they offer on History, Economics, Politics, Philosophy, and more, including their free course, "Introduction to Aristotle’s Ethics: How to Lead a Good Life," all available for FREE. Go to https://hillsdale.edu/relatable to enroll. --- Related Episodes: Ep 1124 | Is the Church to Blame for Andrew Tate? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1124-is-the-church-to-blame-for-andrew-tate/id1359249098?i=1000684295317 Ep 1115 | Islam Taught Her to Hate Christians — Then She Became One | Guest: Lily Meschi https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1115-islam-taught-her-to-hate-christians-then-she/id1359249098?i=1000680609640 Ep 475 | The Police State Down Under https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-475-the-police-state-down-under/id1359249098?i=1000532846172 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The West is being colonized by Islam, as well as the progressive LGBTQ lobby. Today we've got a pastor from Australia, Andrew Sadra, who tells it like it is. He describes the commonalities between Islam, progressivism, even atheist communism, this unholy alliance we see dominating the West. How has this happened? What is the future of it? And what are Christians' role? in all of this. We're talking about this, but also so much more with our guest today on Relatable. This is brought to by our friends at Life or DeathCon. That is a pro-life conference happening in D.C. this week where I will be speaking. Andrew will be speaking. You can still get your tickets. Go to Life or Deathcon.com. Use code Allie 10 for 10% off your ticket. That's Life or Deathcon.com. code Allie 10. Pastor, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for the honor, Ali.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I love what the Lord is doing through you. We're watching you from the other side of the world. Likewise. The conservative millennial, which is like an oxymoran. Yes, I know. Millennials don't tend to be conservative. Yes, that was like, that was my OG blogger name. Not even everyone watching this knows that I started out as the conservative millennial.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. Back when people thought no millennials were conservative. Now we're old. Now no one talks about our generation. I don't know. I'm guessing you're, are you a millennial? I'm a millennial. I think I'm like 1999.
Starting point is 00:01:37 So I am in the millennial camp. It's quite mind-blowing, hey. It's like, unlike what people think, I kind of feel like Gen Z are definitely more conservative than millennials. For some reason. We've seen that whole feminization process that took place since the 1960s. It's kind of now reacting with Andrew Tate or the crew. So it's quite interesting watching the swing back as older people,
Starting point is 00:02:04 I think, in Australia. at least, tend to be a bit more liberal, but younger people for some reason are becoming more conservative. Okay. Which is quite interesting. Yes. I wasn't anticipating going into this, but since you mentioned Andrew Tate, we did an episode on him last week. There's such a debate on the right and among Christians saying, okay, you know, why are these young men, maybe in Australia too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But like flocking to Andrew Tate, is it the fault of the church? What is going on? What's your assessment? Church 1,000 percent. You think so. The church is the problem. The church of the answer. because leadership is the problem and leadership is the answer.
Starting point is 00:02:38 The church across the West in Australia particularly and in America have been feminist and feminized. So at the consequence, a male goes to church and they feel out of place. And you nailed it with your book, Toxic Empathy. It's the whole feminization of the church where we value love without truth, empathy without courage, the love of God without the fear of God, being nice over being truthful and being loving and not fighting. So you wonder why, like, not being a gosh or anything.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I saw that funny photo online was one of the very famous pastors he wearing like a pink shirt with his family. And I was like, yeah, there is a problem in the church, particularly I would say boomers, exes and half a millennia pastors. They're very feminized. Like they're trying to be nice, but as a younger millennial, there's an older millennial crew, I think we're in the younger millennial crew. As a male millennial, I find myself very disconnected from the church. That's why I kind of started the church.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I was in a very biggest liberal church in Australia, biggest one, very famous music. You probably know it. Something song. Trying to be polite. And yeah, it was just a feminist, feminized culture. And it was very hard as a conservative male to kind of fit in that box of theological liberalism, which is the enemy within the church. So I think the rights of Andrew Tate is just a natural phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And as much as you can hate him, you should have disciples him. And he is like a reaction to a feminist, feminized church that have been taking place. And I think it's very obvious now. Like, you have seen the last 30 years, the church has lost ground everywhere. Yeah. The gay marriage debate, the abortion debate, the God and government debate. We can clearly see that the church in America and the West have lost so much ground. It's not even open to interpretation.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like, it's crazy when you live in a moment of time where you are losing the culture war. But then somehow pastors are acting like we're winning. And by nature, men like to win. Like, duh, have you ever been a man before? Yeah. Like women want to reconcile men want to win in general. Yeah. I mean, I'm competitive to a degree, but I think in general, men and women's nature are different in that way.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So I was reading an article yesterday and they said Australia at the moment is being led by a leftist matriarchy. I think that whole complex of matriarchy where you get this hyper level of compassion kindness and empathy with that truth, justice and that fighting element, how God told you I should be strong and courageous than fight. And as a consequence, it is not
Starting point is 00:05:41 shocking that most men fall I undertake. Okay, I have some thoughts on this. I have so many thoughts. I like him, but I don't like him. Of course. But to an extent I'm like, he's more courageous than most passive. Like the sad reality, I'm like don't get angry in the influence,
Starting point is 00:05:58 get angry at the fact that people are listening to him because you're not saying it. Yeah. I love that we have like slightly different perspectives on this. I would agree with everything that you said about like the matriarchy. I call it misplaced mothering. I think that's why a lot of women, even Christian women, follow the social justice movement. They don't, a lot of women don't have kids themselves.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And that nurture natural instinct to mother doesn't go away. The Karen vibes. Yeah. Well, you started when you were five years old taking care of your. babies and just because you are not married by the time you're in your 30s doesn't mean that that mothering instinct goes away. So you channel it into social justice causes and into power places and into your career. Yes, and which is why they see like either, you know, the criminal or the illegal migrant as the child that they're taking care of. One thing I will say, though,
Starting point is 00:06:50 about the Andrew Tate thing, and then I want to hear what you have to say about this. I totally agree about the feminization of parts of the church, but wouldn't you also say that that there are some men that gravitate towards him simply because of sin. Like there are women. 100% who believe in false teachers. Andrew Tait is a Muslim. I was talking to my wife. And before he became a Muslim, I grew up in the Middle East, the Muslim world.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So very patriarchal society. So it's kind of half of my life was in Egypt. Half of my life was in Australia. So I had the two opposite extremes, the Muhammad followers, kill the infidel, domineer over women, have four wives. you get 72 versions in heaven, Islam, and then you come to the West and the hyper-feminist. So it's quite interesting me watching this luck war.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You go there and women are oppressed, and then they're like, no, they're not. And you come here and men are oppressed, but women say they're not. So it's quite shocking. But going back, like, toxic. He's totally degenerate. And like women are susceptible to listening to false teachers.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And we say, well, yeah, that's just sin that women are listening to false teachers, we don't say, oh, well, it's the church's fault that women are doing that. But for men, when they listen to false teachers, instead of giving them the responsibility of like, yeah, you're sitting by listening to him. I think it's a church's fault that young people are gravitating toward there. Because we are not offering a better solution. And it's in the stats. Like across Australia, I think 60 to 70 percent of churches are women, mostly women and we figured it out across there. The issue is we keep addressing women, woman, woman, and not men.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And going back to the Andrew Tay, like Andrew Taye is a little boy that pretends to be a man. Like men get married. Little boys sleep around and not get married. So Andrew Tay is a little boy that pretends like he's a man because ultimately he's strong and courageous, which is the virtue of a man, but he lacks a big virtue of the man, which is love. The Bible said, husband. control.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Two. So if you can't control yourself, if you can't love a woman enough to marry her, you're not a man. The Bible said, love yourself, Samus Christ, love the church. So I always say to people, if you want to become a man,
Starting point is 00:09:04 be strong, be courageous, love and sacrifice and self-control. And he has that man-boy condition and we like parts of it. I love the courage. I love the fighting element. But obviously, when it comes to character, commitment. Like, if you are that strong, you should be able to strong your sexual desires
Starting point is 00:09:26 enough to marry one woman, but he can't. So he's very strong, but he's also very, he's this paradox. There's a lot of, you know, the Trump style of figures rising where you lack parts of them, but you don't like parts of them. And it just happened. And you're going to see a lot more. It's the church was one extreme. Yeah, it's quite interesting. But I was telling my wife that Andrew Tate will 100% become a Muslim before he become a Muslim. He wants to be godly and a womanize at the same
Starting point is 00:09:57 time. Yeah, and you're saying that's what Islam gets people. Well, that's what Islam is. It's like you get to get four wives, you get to sleep around with the infidel, you get to kill your enemy, you get to be strong, you get to kill your enemies and declare war on the world and take territory.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You get to get 72 versions in the afterlife. A woman gets one husband, a man gets four wives, it sounds like a very andrithet religion. So it gives him the opportunity to be godly and sexually immoral at the same time.
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Starting point is 00:11:26 Ali, you save up to 25% on your first order. That's 7weeks Coffee.com code Ali. Talk to me more about your experience with Islam. Yeah, so I grew up in the Middle East, the Muslim world. So at a Christian there, it was a very, very tough. Like Egypt used to be... So you grew up a Christian. I grew up a Christian. I was older Christians. So I did a DNA test. I was like 98% Coptic Egyptian. So we were like the ancient pagan. Egyptians that when Mark went to Egypt in 50, 80, we became Christian. Obviously, pagans are very aggressive. They ended up killing Mark in 50 or 70 AD by tying his body to a host across a nation.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But eventually, by 300 AD, most of Egypt became Christian. And you had the formation of the Orthodox Church, Oriental Old Orthodox Church. So I kind of grew up in that world. Islam took over in 600 AD. And before you know it, for the last 14 to 1,600 years, there was the systematic persecution, oppression, suppression, killing, raping, beheading, Jesusia, which is a Muslim tax, the peep pressure.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And in the last 1,500 years, Egypt went from 90% Christian to now 10% Christian. And you see that across a Muslim world. Like so many people can look at the Middle East, whether it's Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Algeria, Jerusalem. Syria, like, oh, those barbaric Arabs. I'm like, no, not really. What happened was, is that the Islamic religion rose, and it took by force all of the Christian East,
Starting point is 00:13:06 and now you have the Middle East. So that's kind of where I come from, and we have seen the rise of Islam, and Christianity is nearly eradicated across the Middle East. And in Europe. I mean, when you're looking at someone like Britain, America is very, I thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I talked about it a few times with a few people, Charlie and a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And then I watched the terrorist attack recently in New Orleans. And I was like, it's already here. And he was, I'm pretty sure he was in Texas, from Texas, actually. That guy that took the car and he killed. He was from Houston. Houston. So Islam is here. He converted to Islam as an adult.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Like I think he actually, maybe he was like his DNA is Middle Eastern or something. The Islamic argument. Yes, converted to Islam, I think he's an adult. So Islam is a man religion because you get sex, power, territorial forces, you get to kill the infidel, you get the blood rush of the search. Didn't Muhammad have a six-year-old wife? Yeah, so he married Aisha or Aisha when he was six years old and then he consummated the marriage when he was nine. He had nine wives. When she was six and then when she was nine, he consummated it.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah. Yeah, Islam has a problem of morality. It has a problem of morality. The issue is in Islam you have is that they have a very very. very perverted, evil, violent and wicked prophet, they would want to kill me for saying that. But if I was in Egypt now, I'll be in jail for 10 years for saying that. And or I'll get killed on the street. So that's kind of the environment that we grew up in.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You couldn't preach a gospel outside of the church walls. You couldn't proclaim the name of Jesus in the public square. You could never speak truth of power. You could never convert a Muslim to a Christian. You had blasphemy laws, which is if a pastor ever speaks against Islam, you're going to go to jail for after 10 years. and you probably get tortured and die there. So my dad was a pastor. We escaped Egypt in 2007
Starting point is 00:14:59 because he converted a particular Muslim woman to Christianity. So the Muslim Brotherhood, which of like the terrorist group like Hamas, wanted to kill him, and the Egyptian moderate Muslim government wanted to put him in jail. So we ended up escaping to Thailand in 2007 and then we went to Australia as religious refugees.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So that's kind of, the world I come from so it's very different okay tell me why because everything you're describing about Islam most conservatives would say yeah it is the most oppressive and regressive more than communism I would argue
Starting point is 00:15:35 religion that we have and yet why do you have progressives who claim to be pro-woman and pro-liberation why do they so often side with Islam and gays for Gaza this is a paradox it makes sense but it doesn't make a lot of sense
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's quiz for Palestine, gas for Gaza, juice for Hitler. It's pizza for bacon, chickens for KFC. It doesn't even make sense. It's very interesting phenomena because as you study both worldviews, it's a worldview alliance. Islam hates Christianity, and that's why Islam hates America. One of the biggest experiences I remember very clearly was during 9-11. I was in Egypt.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I was going to my swimming training. And the moment we saw that video of the plane crashing in the world, Trade Center, my friends, very nice people were celebrating on the street, death to America, victory to Allah. Finally, Islam has won. I remember being in that moment. I didn't know I'll be here today. So it's kind of coming to America and I'm like, I remember.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And what people felt to realize is that Islam is a totalitarian ideology. Islam is a one-world order totalitarian ideology that pretends to be a religion. Islam is a political one-world order. I know people like the World Economic Forum and all that. one world, all stuff. Well, there's another one. It's called Islam and it's there and it's here and it's real. That's why you see Muslims here fighting for Palestine and like, you're living in America why they care about Palestine. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But because Islam has this concept called the OMA. Islam is a one world religion that believes one day they're going to take
Starting point is 00:17:10 over the whole world and there's going to be a one world government order called OMA. So Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity. In the Middle East, America and Christianity are the exact same thing. And the reality is, as America is a Christian nation, whether people like it or not, one nation under God, when you see all this freedom stuff, I grew up in the Middle East, we don't have that. So when you look at America, you're like, yeah. So Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity. And Islam hates Christianity because Islam hates freedom. See, the left is the same. The left hates America because they hate Christianity. They hate Christianity because they hate freedom. So both of the left, the progressive left, the progressive left,
Starting point is 00:17:55 it's not because they hate Jesus? Well, and eventually you get the figure of the whole thing which is Jesus. It's an Antichrist movement. So what you'll figure out is that progressivism and Islam are the exact same thing? I know that the total opposite, the total same. So you have the unholy alliance between godless leftism and violent Islam. They're both violent, they're both authoritarian, They're both totalitarian.
Starting point is 00:18:22 They both go after the church. And that's why when I came to Australia, and I watched the left act out that they act exactly like the Muslims. So hate speech laws are blasphemy laws. Same thing. We have an Australia anti-conversion therapy laws where as a pastor, I would go to jail if I pray for a gay person, three to five years. So what's funny, in Egypt, that's called apostasy law.
Starting point is 00:18:44 So what I figured as I came here is that the progressive left and violent Islam, they are the exact same guy the green and the red the communist red and the green Islam so it's the same demonic spirit of the Antichrist but it is a very mind-blown reality quiz for Palestine, guess for Gaza
Starting point is 00:19:04 it doesn't make sense on a surface level but in Australia 70 to 80% of Muslims vote left yeah here you see Ilan Omar and AUC
Starting point is 00:19:15 that this is like what the heck that doesn't make sense because Muslims obviously don't believe in homosexuality or they don't support it. They don't, they don't just like they say, oh, you're homoferb. I'm like, dude, you can be what you want. I'm not going to kill you. Just don't do it on the street. Don't do it with my children and don't celebrate it on the street. In the Middle East, you'll get killed. Yeah. So again, it doesn't make sense. But once you realize, both godless leftism and violent Islam, they hate Christianity, they hate America, they hate the West,
Starting point is 00:19:48 and they hate Christ. So why do they both? hate Israel. Exactly. So Israel is the only liberal experiment of democracy in the Middle East. It's crazy when you watch his gates for Palestine. We have a lot of them in Sydney. Oh, free, free Palestine. I'm like, Palestine would never be free.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Palestine is a totalitarian crap hole. It's like, have you ever heard about any country in the Muslim Middle East that's free? Like, you're crazy. I grew up in moderate Asia. If I go now there, I'll be killed or I'll go to jail. So Iraq, not free, Syria, not free, Algeria, not free, Turkey is not free. When they say free Palestine, I'm not sure what the hell they mean, because there is no free country in the Middle East. Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian, I'm not going to get killed.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Israel, I'm going there actually this year. Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian and I can preach a gospel. Maybe a Jew might spit on me, but he's not going to kill me. That's all right. That's okay. I don't care. You can spit on me. Israel is the only nation that a Muslim can become a Christian, a Christian can become a Muslim. In fact, in Egypt, there's like eight Jews. In Israel, there's like 1.6 million Muslims. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:06 In Gaza, there's like 0.1% Christians, zero Jews and 99.99% are Muslims. So when they say free Palestine, genocide, it's bull crap. It doesn't make sense. It's not true. It's not real. It's not historically accurate. It's not statistically accurate. It's not philosophically accurate. It's again the hate towards the West.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And Israel does represent the West. Whether you want to disagree to do Christian values, Christian values, we can argue over that. But the reality is both Judaism and Christianity will believe in the Ten Commandments. Islam doesn't. Islam says kill the infidel. Which happens to be Christians, Jews, gays, communists, atheists, atheists, atheists. atheists, every single thing that's not Muslim. So the infidel happens to encapsulate everybody that doesn't believe in violent Allah
Starting point is 00:21:57 and his false prophet Islam, Muhammad. So yeah, you have this weed unholy alliance. So communists always will hate Israel because it's the only experiment of freedom and liberty in the Middle East. So I don't want to go there theoretically. I'm just talking politically, practically, statistically as a religion. refugee, I am a lot more safer in Israel than in the country I was born. Second sponsor is Good Ranchers. Good Ranchers provides all American meat. We're talking
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Starting point is 00:23:58 There is an actual genocide that's happening in Gaza for the Christians. Christianity was 6,000 people in the 1970s in Gaza. Right now, there's less than 800 Christians. Where are all these Christians? So Muslims are multiplying like rabbits. Christianity is disappearing. There is an actual genocide that is happening in Palestine, and that is a genocide of Christians.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I was thinking about today, like, we saw the George Floyd case. you can't judge a video about two minutes. The exact same thing is very sad watching little kids die in the Middle East, but the exact same thing, you cannot judge a video about five minutes. The context, there's political narrative, there is a lot of complexity to the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:24:37 and the complexity is, why don't you go to Gaza and we'll go on the street for a walk? It's very simple. I lived in the Middle East. I grew up where we grew up hating the Jews, chanting, kill the Jews, where we got taught in school that killing Jews is service to Allah.
Starting point is 00:24:52 that was the institutional anti-Jewish hate we grew up and by the way first they're going to go for the Jews then they're going to go for the Christians we're next we're next crazy enough in Australia in October 7th there was people screaming in front of Sydney Oprah house gas are Jews gas at Jews and I looked at that I'm like man something was about to happen a few months later a Muslim boy anti-Jewish Muslim boy went to a church 40 minutes down the road and stabbed a priest as he was about to open the Bible and he said Allahu Akbar Why did that happen? First, they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going for the Christians. We have eight Jews in Egypt and 10% Christians. You can go your Zionism stuff, whatever you want to say. But the reality is Islam has been annihilating Christianity since the moment of its birth. Egypt used to be Christian. Algeria used to be Christian.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And this is the actual story. And that has nothing to do with Zionism, Bill Gates, whatever you want to dig into, who funds the money. Islamist institutionally anti-Christian and anti-Judaism. You saw them in Washington, D.C. at the beginning of the year, they were burning the American flag. Why would Muslims come from the other side of the world to burn an American flag? Right. I think they are very misinformed.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And they just, honestly, they just need to go for a walk in Israel and go for a walk in Algeria. It's not that complicated. It's not that complicated. but they got COVID right, they got Black Lives Matter right, they got this one wrong. Yeah. And the reason is because they're not from the region.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Right. I get a lot of Hamid, you're like, you're Zionists, you're Christian, Christian Zionist. I'm like, I just happen to live in the Middle East. And I understand how horrific. I was in the airport a few weeks ago in Sydney. Sydney were being overtaken by Islam. So our area, for example,
Starting point is 00:26:45 we had to move our church because we got so many threats that people want to kill me for what I say. Muslims. Muslims. Yeah, the religion of peace. Progressives. Because you say a lot about LGBTQ and stuff that most pastors aren't willing to say too. So it sounds like we have so many death threats that we had to move our home to a more white area
Starting point is 00:27:04 because our area that we lived in got infiltrated by Islam. Wow. So it's happening. Australia is 10 years ahead of America. You guys kind of started to see a little bit of terrorist attacks here and there. It's happening. We had a Jewish synagogue get bombed a few weeks ago. I think it's a reality check for the anti-Zionism conservatives.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, they got COVID's right. They got BLM right. They got leftism right. They have Islam and Israel very wrong. Yeah. Tell me about the progressive political landscape in Australia. You know, I didn't know that much about politics in Australia, but then I saw COVID and your leadership went absolutely psychotic.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I can go to two directions. COVID or LGBTQ, let's go with COVID. So going back to the leftist matriarchy. What you saw with COVID is a womanized approach to dealing with safety issues. So because women don't have kids that they can control and get rid of them at home, once you put so much women in power, you get with that Karen safety approach. Misplaced mothering. Misplaced mothering. So before you know it, we are here to protect you. I'm like, honey, leave me alone. I don't want your protection. I'm like, well, we want to make sure you don't get COVID. I'm like, can you please leave me alone?
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm like, I'm happy to die from COVID rather than to die. Don't forget your jacket. Eat your vegetables. That's basically what they're doing. Put a mask on. Put a mask on. Put a mask off. And oh my gosh, it's matriarchy.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And you can feel it. It's this Kamala Harris had it all over her. Like she, the totalitarian Karen freak. Like, it's like you like, please stay away from me. Like at the moment, we are. by the socialist left. Like, that's literally the Labour Party. And 51% of the party is women.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I'm like, I don't want a party to be 50% woman because they're going to control the hell out of me. It just, it's misplaced mothering. So what you saw with COVID was a womanized approach. It was exaggeration, control, locking down people. It's like punishing your kid. You know when your kid does something wrong?
Starting point is 00:29:13 You're like, go to your room. That's literally what they did for us for the whole country. So we had the longest lockdowns in the world, not just the longest lockdown in the world, we had the longest lockdown in the history of humanity. Two years. I don't think there's any country in the history of anything that the leaders decided to log them down for two years.
Starting point is 00:29:33 The church was shot. You can go to the brothel to sleep with a prostitute, but you couldn't go to church to worship Jesus. Progressivism. And they say, oh, don't talk about politics. I'm like, really, mate. You could go to the liquor store to get alcohol and get depressed in your misery,
Starting point is 00:29:46 but you couldn't go to church. very interesting you could go to the racist black laws matter protest in Australia I'm like we don't even have black people I'm not sure what they're talking about so this progressive movement is like yeah like I had a few of my black friends
Starting point is 00:29:59 yeah racism I'm like dude there's no slavery in Australia I'm not sure what you're talking about so the leftist progress it's everywhere it's it's an ideological framework so they were like so you could go and protest for black laws matter but you couldn't go to Jesus to worship church
Starting point is 00:30:14 in church because of the science so I'm not sure what the hell is that science next sponsor is Adele Natural Cosmetics. I've been using Adele for years. It's made a really big difference in my skin. It's all natural. I love their oil-based cleanser. I use it every day. I also use their essential moisturizing spray every day. My skin is a little bit drier, so I have to make sure that all of my products are locking in the moisture. That's also key to anti-aging. And that's why I rely on the very natural and ultra-moisturizing products from Adele Natural. cosmetics. Also, when I am not in studio, I use their moisturizing makeup, their stick foundation,
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Starting point is 00:31:31 Again government makes a horrible god And government makes an abusive mom It's very very important My mom used to allow me to go out till 10pm The government APM you had to be home We literally had drones and helicopters Right down the street
Starting point is 00:31:47 Every single day To make sure that nobody goes out of their home you will only allow to go home out of home once a day to exercise and walk for one mile and not go back in order for you to go to church after two years of lockdown
Starting point is 00:32:02 every church the government installed a QR code again no pastor in Australia talks about that like this happened and I'm like it's almost like me like a traumatic experience I'm like I look back I'm like did that just happen you know it's like you didn't really know what it means when you're there but looking backwards you're like
Starting point is 00:32:18 crap that was that was psychopathic Like that wasn't totalitarian, therapeutic totalitarianism. It's tyranny for your own good, tyranny for your own safety, tyranny for your health. Again, the prime minister was very overweight by you was talking to us about health. Again, this sweet stuff, it's like, can you please lead by example and look healthy before you're telling to be healthy? Yeah. But going back, every church had to have a QR code that was installed by the government.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And that cure code was connected to the government agencies to the government of the time. and to the police. Every single person in order for you to enter church, you have to scan a code, they have to know your name, your medical status, what time you enter church, what time you exited church,
Starting point is 00:33:02 and what church you went to. If that is not tyranny and totalitarian control, what is? Scary. So that was the expectation for you to enter church and exit church every single moment.
Starting point is 00:33:17 One time, my brother went to the shops and there was one COVID case, so they ended up locking everybody in the shop in their home for two weeks and the police had to go and check on him every day that he's not allowed to leave home the house in front of us there was a big apartment
Starting point is 00:33:31 they had one case of COVID the police came and set up a whole fence around them and these people were not allowed to leave except to pick up food the police will give food and put them in the front and those sick peasants had to come down and take the food and they were surrounded by the police for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:33:51 24-7, the police wants to. So that is the story of Australia. And finally, you landed with, in Melbourne, down the road, Melbourne is like our California. So all the crazy LGBTQ stuff happens in Melbourne. At the moment, they're now building pride centers with the government money to protect the LGBT community. So now the progressivism, they're building their own sexually perverted church with our own tax money called pride centers.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So Melbourne is like California. they had rubber bullets, bazooka, tanks on the street, attacking peaceful protesters for wanting to go to work. And not just that, on the tanks, a lot of progressives, they're very good at manipulation.
Starting point is 00:34:32 They wrote on the tanks, rescue vehicle. Oh my gosh. So, Orwellian, like the Ministry of Truth in charge of propaganda. We nearly had that, and it didn't pass a few months ago,
Starting point is 00:34:43 a misinformation bill, where the government was going to be. Australia's been trying to pass something like that for a while, right? it's gonna pass I think if we take one more step towards progressiveism in Australia was Trump being in charge they're very
Starting point is 00:34:56 scared of Donald Trump they're so scared like our prime minister Maybe we should buy Australia Oh dude I'm ready I kind of tagged President Trump like please Can you invade us please because the Muslims The Muslims are going to invade us And the LGBTQ ABC
Starting point is 00:35:10 They are already indoctrinating us I'm like hey dude low attacks Freedom of speech First Amendment second amendment I can go to church and worship Jesus, less restrictions on business and operating. I'm like, I'm ready. I don't see why not. Yeah, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I was like, please Donald Trump, come and take us. That's amazing. I would be happy about that. Yeah, well, people don't say colonization is not a feature. Colonization is a fact. At the moment, what's going to happen to the world, you're either getting colonized by Islam or you're getting colonized by the one world order with progressivism. The reality is something is over China.
Starting point is 00:35:48 something is getting colonized. So whether you're like it or not, colonization is not a feature of life. It's a fact. And America, you guys have seen the World Economic Forum and the global elites. They have been trying to colonize you from the outside from a very long time
Starting point is 00:36:05 and thank the Lord a populist, nationalist movement one. Because we do not want godless globalism, which are tyrannical or violent Islam, which are the two enemies, I believe of America and the West. Yeah. Yeah. And you mentioned China, and I was just thinking as you were talking about, like, how strange it is,
Starting point is 00:36:25 that somehow China, these Middle Eastern, Islamic-dominated countries, progressives, the one-world order, how somehow they all unite. But really, as you said, the common thread is Antichrist. And what they don't understand, America is an exceptional country. And I know a lot of people say, how dare you say that? I'm like, no, I've lived in the Middle East. I have lived in Australia. The first and second amendment,
Starting point is 00:36:50 it's a gift from God. It is not normal that a country, like how crazy is like the three countries in the world ever with constitutional freedom of speech? And only America is the one that doesn't have the condition of hate speech. Yeah. What a coincidence that the only country in the world
Starting point is 00:37:08 was constitutional freedom of speech. Like we're so progressive, we're so smart, enlightenment science. Yet somehow we don't have freedom of speech codified. Progressives are very funny Because progressive don't lead history to learn They read history to critique So every time they look like that racist white man
Starting point is 00:37:25 I'm like that's you actually You are what you hate They don't know that But how crazy that America is the only country in the world That has freedom of speech Freedom of Worship, Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Press codified The reality is America is the one holding the line
Starting point is 00:37:42 The reason I'm here Three Month a year is because man we need America to be strong. Yeah. Because what is enabling it as a pastor to not get arrested yet is people like you, people like the conservative movement, the Christian conservative, they're fighting the good fight, and people like Donald Trump who are using their God-given power to turn the West back to reality. The last sponsor for the day is Hillsdale.
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Starting point is 00:39:22 Relatable to enroll for free. So we haven't even gotten into LGBTQ yet and we only have a few minutes, but I thought that you would give a good response. I'm here again in May so we can do next one. I thought you'd give a good response and reaction to a couple crazy clips that we have of how churches are. Some churches are in the United States. Let's play SOT 9 and see what you have to say. Jesus is polyamorous. If you're one of those Christians who believes in the importance of a personal relationship with Jesus, well, Jesus is having personal relationships with billions of other people too. He's kind of a relationship slut, an empowered, reclaimed sort of slut.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Repeatedly, Paul reminds us that Jesus gave himself for us, us, the church, which Paul describes as the whole body of believers. In this marriage, Jesus isn't married to one person, he's married to the entire body of body of believers. Jesus is in a pansexual, polyamorous relationship with us. And so, of course, Christians can be polyamorous. That's a biblical model of relationship. Okay, he actually said Jesus is a slut at one point. What the heck is that? Yeah. That's so weird. Look, the OBQ, it's a sex cult. That's my reaction. It's a sex cult. God created us to love people, worship him and use sex. What the OGQ sex cult does, and we are in the midst of it, we have what you call it. We have what you call Australia gay communism where it's illegal to pray for a gay person with their consent.
Starting point is 00:40:52 As a pastor, I can go to jail or get fined if I have this conversation. So if you're gay, and I'm talking to you like that now, you can right now report me to the Human Rights Commission. Yeah. And you will take me to court with a case around half a million dollars to $1 million and I can land in jail for three to five years or our church will get fined $100,000 for me pushing my ideas on you and trying to convert you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 It's anti-conversion. Anti-conversion. And this is, again, leftists don't use language to communicate. There is the language to manipulate. This is a funny thing about the bill. They are the one transing the kids and converting them from a man to a woman. Right. But they're projecting it on you.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So this is a funny. I'm not doing any conversion. I'm telling the kid, hey, you're not gay. Nature tells you you can have babies when you get married, male and female. You don't need to cut your body parts. You just need to get your soul right with God. And then they tell you, no, you're the one performing the conversion. I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So they always project, it's all projection. It's the self-righteous Pharisee. So, and this is the reality, all my conservatives who are pro-gay marriage, you've already crossed the line. Like, I think the gay marriage debate needs to come back, because if marriage is not for a lifetime, divorce, 60s, if marriage is not between a man and a woman, and it's a man and men and a woman,
Starting point is 00:42:16 woman, why cannot marriage be between a man and a donkey? Yeah. There is no line. Like this is, once you, today's progressive is yesterday's, today's conservative is yesterday's progressive. And tomorrow's conservative is today's progressive. So the problem you're facing for the conservative movement, they need to have a line. And that line has to be the Bible.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Because this sounds crazy. It's not going to be crazy in 10 years. At the moment, we had a green politician, greens, like our communist party, who are trying. trying to justify women who are single who can't get married having sex with their dogs. What? We actually had that on national TV, the ABC project podcast. He's like, we need to have, he was, I love the left. We need to have a conversation every time.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Let's have a conversation. And it was about why can't a single lady perform oral sex with her dog if she is lonely? That was on TV. So we are in Australia There is no line People have to understand There is Because I never thought
Starting point is 00:43:25 We'll live in a moment We can say men can get pregnant I never thought Like if you said that to me 10 years ago Like you're crazy If you say that to most of the world today They say that you're crazy Yeah
Starting point is 00:43:36 But the issue is I It will be normalized Because the line Which is biblical Christianity Yeah Yeah. Yeah. But in the non-Western world, you know, like the Muslim world, they obviously get a lot
Starting point is 00:43:53 wrong. But if you asked them, can a man get pregnant? They would, I don't know, maybe kill you. But certainly laugh in your face. You will be pregnant in heaven or hell, yeah. Oh my goodness. This is great. I could talk to you for a lot longer, but I know we've got to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Thank you so much. Thank you for the honor. How can people support you, follow you, all that good stuff? Hey, follow me on Instagram, Facebook, all social media platforms, Andrews, etc., YouTube. Our church is Echo Church in Sydney. We have people that travel two hours away to come to our church. Wow. When the word of the Lord is rare, people travel.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I was to read the story of Jesus. Why did people travel three hours to come here, Jesus? I figure out the gospel is very powerful. And when you speak the truth, people would travel. So if you live in Sydney, Australia, I don't know. It's a very lonely place. We are a minority. Three out of ten people are in a vice-christian.
Starting point is 00:44:40 so we're in a very, very dark space and half of them are liberal. So 1.5% of people. So we don't, one out of 10 people are Christian. You'll feel like a minority. You can come to church. Make sure you come and check us out.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And stay out. I might need you at some point if or when they decide to arrest me for what I say. Yeah, for real. We'll be ready to share the arrows. Yeah, because, yeah. Well, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:45:03 This is really fun. Thank you, Your Honor, Alie.

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