Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1135 | My Reaction to Lily Collins’ Surrogacy Announcement & Trump’s Tariffs Explained | Guest: Ron Simmons

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Today, we sit down with Allie's dad, fan favorite Ron Simmons, to discuss everything you need to know about Trump's tariffs against Mexico and Canada. We go over what exactly tariffs are and how President Trump is using them to advance an "America First" agenda. We talk about how well they have worked so far as leverage against foreign nations in order to secure the southern border. Later, we discuss actress Lily Collins' announcement of the birth of her first child via surrogate and the controversy that erupted online over it. After all, at the end of the day, surrogacy still hurts children and deprives them of their birth mothers. Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (00:58) USAID follow-up (08:49) Ron Simmons on tariffs (21:46) What happened with Trump tariffs (32:05) Jasmine Crockett  (41:26) Lily Collins announces baby born via surrogate (56:45) Online reaction to surrogacy (01:01:10) LGBT and surrogacy ---   Today's Sponsors: Masa Chips — Go to MasaChips.com and use promo code ALLIEB for a discount on your first time order of seed oil free tortilla chips! Good Ranchers — Go to https://GoodRanchers.com and use code ALLIE at checkout to claim $25 off, free express shipping, and your choice of FREE ground beef, chicken, or salmon in every order for an entire year. NetSuite — Gain visibility and control of your financials, planning, budgeting, and inventory so you can manage risk, get reliable forecasts, and improve margins. Go to NetSuite.com/ALLIE to get the CFO's guide to AI and Machine Learning. Carly Jean Los Angeles — Go to https://www.carlyjeanlosangeles.com and use code ALLIEB to get 20% off your first CJLA order, site wide (one-time use only) and start filling your closet with timeless staple pieces. --- Related Episodes: Ep 1134 | World Relief, USAID & the Nefarious Network of Humanitarian Aid https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1134-world-relief-usaid-the-nefarious-network/id1359249098?i=1000689042415 Ep 254 | Birth Control, IVF & Surrogacy https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-254-birth-control-ivf-surrogacy/id1359249098?i=1000475691301 Ep 919 | No Good Surrogacies: A Surrogacy Baby Speaks Out | Guest: Olivia Maurel https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-919-no-good-surrogacies-a-surrogacy-baby-speaks/id1359249098?i=1000637866783 Ep 482 | Children Have the Right to a Mom and a Dad | Guest: Katy Faust https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-482-children-have-the-right-to-a-mom-and-a/id1359249098?i=1000534144056 Ep 836 | Surrogacy Horror: Gay ‘Dads’ Demand Abortion | Guest: Brittney Pearson https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-836-surrogacy-horror-gay-dads-demand-abortion-guest/id1359249098?i=1000620814003 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. We will be with my dad in just a minute talking about tariffs. But I wanted to do a couple things. I wanted to follow up on the topic yesterday that we discussed about USAID. and we just didn't have time to get into this aspect of it, which is perhaps one of the most defarious aspects of USA. So I just want to touch on that and highlight just the corrupt function of federal bureaucracy in general,

but specifically that institution in a second. I also forgot at the top of yesterday's show to remind you that tickets for Share the Arrows will be on sale February 28th. Y'all, we are so excited about this. The women's event, Share the Arrows that we did last year. our first ever event. We were extremely rushed and planning it, and yet it was a supernaturally powerful day. The teaching, the worship was just so solid. And by the grace of God, it will be just like that this year, hopefully even better, because we learned a lot in planning our first event. We're having it at a new venue outside of Dallas, Texas. And we hope to have even more

than 4,000 Christian women from across the country and actually around the world come to this event this year. But it's going to be the same kind of solid teaching and powerful worship and fellowship. Just the stories of friendship and kindness and hospitality and compassion and conviction that came out of last year's Share the Aeros have just buoyed us and have edified us so much even months after the event. So it's October 11th outside of Dallas, Texas, 2025. We are so pumped about it. Again, tickets go on sale. Early bird tickets go on sale on February 28th. But if you are a Blaze TV subscriber, then you get access to those early bird tickets.

I think it's five days early. The reason that's important is because we have a limited number of those early bird tickets that we can sell. They sold out. The early bird pricing sold out. in less than 24 hours last year, and we didn't even have that much time to advertise it. This year, it's probably going to be the same thing. So if you want access to those early bird tickets, if you're a subscriber already, awesome. If you're not a subscriber, you can go to blazTV.com slash Ali, go ahead and subscribe to Blaze TV. You get access to all my behind-the-scenes stuff,

but everyone at Blaze TV is behind-the-scenes stuff, and you get access to those early bird tickets, or you can just wait until February 28th. They'll be available at share the arrows.com. We've got a different seating arrangement this time. And so the pricing is going to look different for the different seats that you pick. That's just a heads up. And I will remind you of more details on that as we get closer. But I just wanted to make sure that you mark your calendars because I want you to be able

to get that steep discount on early bird pricing, all of you who want to do that. And so yeah, I'm super excited. So just to be praying for that as we prepare over the next few. months for the second annual share of the arrows. All right, the comments I want to make about USAID, if you haven't listened to yesterday's episode on where our tax dollars are actually going and the causes that we are championing across the world, I mean some of the most evil ideologies and the most evil ideas and the most evil actions have been taken on the taxpayer dime through U.S. aid. And that's why it's good that Trump is dismantling and then reorganizing it

to actually advance the interests of the American people and of virtue and the values that we agree with. But also what we need to understand about it is that it has essentially been revealed to be a Democrat money laundering scheme. In that, the taxpayer dollars that are going to U.S. aid, they might say, US aid might say, we are sending those dollars to, for example, Haiti, but in reality, only 2% of the millions and millions of dollars that is allocated to go toward humanitarian efforts in Haiti are actually going to Haiti. The rest of the money is typically going to these D.C. law firms or other kinds of organizations that claim to be representing the interests and the well-being of the Haitian people. But that,

money and that aid never actually makes its way to those countries, the DC organizations and the nonprofits getting the money from USAID, our taxpayer dollars, or then donating that money back to Democrat politicians and funding their campaigns. And so that is the reason you see Democrats freaking out about this. That is why you have people literally saying they are going to storm the White House over this. I mean, people who literally had no idea what USAID did or that it even existed two days ago now say that they are going to stage a coup over this. That's because Democrats have whipped them into a frenzy because this is the apparatus that they use to fund themselves and to stay in power. And as we will talk about in my dad,

the hypocrisy of Democrats right now complaining about the billionaire-run shadow government, Doge being led by Elon Musk, when they have been run by George Soros for years for the most nefarious and destructive purpose. I mean, it's wild. It's not surprising at this point, but it's wild. And another area where they are very, very wrong is tariffs. They are, for some reason, and laughing at Trump, condemning Trump because of the trade intimidation that he has employed over the past couple of weeks. But the fact of the matter is, it's worked. And it's worked in American interests because these countries have now bowed down.

And they've said, sure, we will secure the border. Please don't put your tariffs on us. Even after posturing for a couple of days saying that they're going to fight back against Trump. So my dad is here to explain what tariffs are, why they're used. How long have they been used? what presidents have used them. Are they effective? And what is really happening between Trump and these countries right now? It's a very, it's a very enlightening conversation. And then we'll get into all of the craziness about Hollywood surrogacy. But let me go ahead and pause before we get

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Because just like with everything else, there is a lot of miss and disinformation coming from the media saying even after it seems like Trump has triumphed and gotten his way through this kind of tariff war saying, oh, no, this is really bad. He's not really winning. So let's start from the top. What is a tariff and how is Trump using them? Yeah, well, tariff's just another name for a tax, okay? But it's a tax on goods that are brought into your country from another country. For example, from Canada, when they sell us goods, we buy stuff from Canada, then that, and we impose a tariff on that or a tax on that.

And it's very, very common. And when we send goods to Canada, some of those goods, they impose a tax on us. And the reason for that is really two or threefold. One reason is that it helps protect their local businesses, right? Like Canada has a huge lumber industry. I don't know if you spent much time in Canada, but I remember when Daniel and I went up for a fishing trip in northern Canada, probably 15 years ago.

And we were flying, you know, getting ready to land. And it was just amazing how massive the forest, were up there. In fact, we got up there, and you could see on the other side of this lake, there were smoke coming out of the forest, and it was fire, force fire. That was probably started by lightning or something, but they don't even put them out. I mean, they don't, you know, it's not affecting the local community or something. And that's just so massive. So they have, that's a lot of their economy. So they want to protect that industry, and they don't want other countries flooding their country with.

low-priced lumber. Especially if you're talking about countries that like a China or a dictator-type country where they can really control the labor market prices, then they can make stuff a lot cheaper. And if Canada just allowed them to dump it in their cheaper, it's really going to hurt their own citizens. Because when you put a tax on an import, that is going to, those that are importing it will have to raise the price of their product in order to make up for that tax. Either that or they'll lose money. Yes. And so that is how you are saying they protect the local products because the local products, since they don't have that tariff, they don't have that tax, they don't have to raise

prices so they can be more competitively priced or a little bit cheaper than the imports. So people who are actually buying the product will prefer the cheaper local product. And that's one of the reasons, okay? Another reason is, that it simply leverage for something else. And that's the case with Mexico and Canada primarily. Now, we have a trade deficit with both of those countries, I believe. I know we have one in Canada, meaning that they sell us more than they buy from us, right? It's about a $60 billion difference in Canada. I'm not sure what it is in Mexico. And so one of the things that we've always thought for is not only free trade so that there's not very many tariffs at all, but fair trade, meaning

you really can't expect us to pay tariffs, you know, and yet you don't want us to do that to you. It doesn't make sense. Canada has tariffs on us and have for a long time on different goods, right? They have them, and that's the way the system works. And Trump has always said that's been Trump's thing for a long time, especially when it comes to China. Yeah. Like, why do all of these other countries get to put tariffs on? the products, but we don't get to. And as soon as we say we're going to do tariffs, people say, oh, my gosh, that's so awful and mean of America. Yeah. And the reason that they say that is

because we buy so many goods from, we buy so many goods from them, right? That's the, that's the reason. The other thing, the, so leverage. And so in Canada and Mexico, the Trump, it really wasn't as much to do with trade. All right. He knew that tariffs that we would put on their products would hurt their economy. And he doesn't want to do that because that eventually makes you and I pay more for whatever we're buying from them. But he needed them to understand about what we wanted to do at the borders. And in Canada, it was primarily fentanyl, all right, not as much human coming across Canada.

That was our worry. In Mexico, it was primarily the human smuggling and whatever, but also fentanyl as well. and both of those countries within hours agreed to do what he wanted to do. So I don't know how you couldn't say Trump's policy didn't win out on that. I mean, Mexico is going to put 10,000 people at their southern border to keep people from just coming through their country. They've also done a deal related to drugs. And, of course, so has Canada. They all came around on that.

The other thing that you would use it for, and up until 1913 in the United States, tariffs represented, I think I read 60% of all the tax revenue until we put in the income tax. In fact, do you know when the first tariff started in the United States? I don't. George Washington. Okay. So all the way from the beginning. The very first major bill that passed the first Congress was a tariff on imported. goods from Europe, 50 cents a ton. Okay. And explain that. I don't think you've already said,

like what it means 50 cents a ton. Like who is paying what, where? The tax has to be paid by, let's say it was England that was sending it over. So back then they did it per ton. They didn't look at a specific goods so much. So that when a ship came over and let's say they had a ton of goods on there, then they had to pay an extra 50 cents, okay, that that government had to pay us before they got, before they could bring them in. And so therefore, in order to recoup that, they had to raise the price of whatever that was. Which would mean that Americans would be less likely to buy their products. And again, they would prefer the American product.

Because America's U.S. shipping vessels only had to pay six cents a ton. So it started and it's happened in every country, you know, ever since then. Yeah, you said that Canada does that, that China does that. And it's funny because they might not call it Canada first policy or China first policy, but that is what it is. They are protecting the interest of their country at the expense of other countries. And that has always been not just when it comes to tariffs,

but when it comes to all policy, that has been Trump's thing, America first, even at the expensive other countries. We're going to put the well-being of our country first. And yet I hear over and over again that America first is wrong. It's wrong to put your country first. But in a variety of ways, every country does that, even progressive countries like Canada. That's why we have countries, right? That's why it's not one world, no matter what our Davos people may want us to believe and what have.

The other thing I think that they do, and this is especially true for the European Union. His comments about terrorists in the European Union are twofold. One, we have a huge trade deficit, okay? We buy about $580 billion worth of stuff from them. and they buy only about $370 billion from us. And a lot of that is because of the tariffs they put on some of our goods that we can't be competitive over there. But even more important, I think in Trump's mind, and I obviously haven't spoken to him, but I think more important is the leverage to get them to increase their own defense funding.

We've talked about that with NATO and other things before. He wants them to defend themselves. they've known for the last probably 60 or 70 years at least, okay, World War II, that eventually we'll come or running and we'll bail them out. And that's what we did. We did that with England, which was the right thing to do.

We've done that with country after country. And so what they've done is they've taken what they should be spending on defense to protect their own selves and put it in these social policies, right? And they say, well, we can't put more on defense because that means we'll have to, some of these social policies will have to be reduced. well, that's an issue you have to deal with. And so I believe he is very strong on that. And I believe that will, you know, will have an impact.

The other thing that's a misnomer that nobody's talking about is what President Biden did. You know, Trump put some tariffs on when he was in his first term in various countries. In fact, at the time, during Trump's administration, we had an actual trade surplus with Canada because of that. And explain what that means again. That means that they bought more from us than we bought from them. Okay. But going to China, he put in some tariffs. And of course, you know, the Democrats in their 2020 election decried those,

how bad they were and all that. But Biden left those in place. In fact, not even a year ago, he actually increased some of those tariffs, which were somewhere between 10 and 25%. He increased those between 50 and 100%. There's some goods coming from China right now that. like electric cars. Okay.

Now, you know why Biden did that because he, he was trying to bolster the electric car industry here. So the theory was the same, but a hundred percent tariff he put on China electric cars. So all that did was not allow the U.S. population to buy cheaper electric cars. And, I mean, how can you have it both ways? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I don't blame him for doing it because his belief was he wanted the U.S. electric car industry to be bolstered.

Okay, now I don't agree with that, but that was his belief. And one of the ways to make sure that happened was that nobody's flooding the market, which is exactly what Trump's doing as well, plus some other leverage things that are going on. So I just found that to be really, you know, one of the things about Canada, and the reason this leverage stuff works, Allie, is because so when we, when Canada sells goods to us, all right, when they sell goods to us, that $480 billion, all right? Now, if that goes down, that obviously has a negative effect on their economy. Because $480 billion that we buy from them today represents 20%, 20% of their entire gross domestic product, of their entire economy's value, it's 20%.

So that's a big hit, right? If that thing, let's say that our, what we buy from them drops to $300 billion, because of this. Well, that hurts Canada for sure. However, what they buy from us, $420 billion, only represents 2% of our economy. So we can last a lot longer than they can last. And that's what Trump knows. And that's what their leaders know. And that's why they agree to negotiate and come up with an agreement for that. Second sponsor for the day is Good Ranchers. All of Good Ranchers Mead is born, raised harvested right here in the U.S. so you know exactly where it comes from. It is free from hidden additives, no antibiotics ever, no added hormones. And if you're getting the marinated meat,

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So on February 1st, President Trump announced that he was imposing tariffs on imports from Canada, Mexico, in China. He issued the tariff citing an extraordinary threat posed by illegal aliens and drugs, including deadly fentanyl. So that's the, he implemented the 25% additional tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico, 10% additional tariff on imports from China. Energy resources from Canada will still have a lower 10% tariff. There were some exemptions to that. they were set to take effect on Tuesday. He basically said, look, you've got to take control of your borders, of this deadly stuff that you're importing over here, or else it's going to be really hard for us to trade together in your economy is really going to suffer. He pointed out that trade accounts for 67% of Canada's GDP, 73% of Mexico's GDP, and 37% of China's GDP.

So that's kind of like our buying power. He said this on X. He said, we need to protect Americans. It is my duty as president to ensure, or not on X, it's on truth social, to ensure the safety of all. I made a promise on my campaign to stop the flood of illegal aliens and drugs from pouring across our borders. Americans have overwhelmingly voted in favor of it.

Claudia Shinebomb, Pardo, she is the president of Mexico. She at first said, you know, she's going to retaliate. Well, she's going to use her own tariffs. And you're not going to be able to intimidate me. You're not going to be able to push back against me. And then she said after talking to President Trump, two days later, she says, I had a great conversation with President Trump. And you know what?

He's right. Mexico will immediately reinforce the northern border with 10,000 members of the National Guard. the United States is committing to work working with Mexico to prevent trafficking. Our teams will begin working today on two fronts, security and trade. So they're going to pause those tariffs for 30 days, and I guess Trump will reassess after the end of the month. And then Justin Trudeau, who also said, you know what, we're not going to back down and we're going to boycott your products. And Canadians do not buy your whiskey from Kentucky and all of that stuff. Justin Trudeau also said two days after these tariffs were announced on X, I just had a good call with President Trump.

Canada is implementing our $1.3 billion border plan, reinforcing the border with new choppers, technology, and personnel. I mean, this is the guy who came to Mar-a-Lago too. And after his conversation with President Trump, President Trump was like, oh, the governor of Canada and joked about invading Canada and taking over Canada. So Justin Trudeau can act tough. He's not. by the end of the day on Monday, President Trump announced deals with both North American countries to delay tariffs 30 days after the nations agreed to help with border security. China announced retaliatory tariffs on select American imports on Tuesday shortly after Trump's tariffs. And China took a fact.

And so that affects a variety of products. They said that they will challenge the tariffs at the World Trade Organization. So this apparently sets off a 60-day period for the two sides. to resolve their differences. What is your thought about what's going to happen with China since they are not so easily backing down? First of all, Trump's not going to pay one bit of attention to the WTO at the end of the day. He's going to do what he wants with that. But he may use the 60-day cooling off period to try to get something done.

I think this will be negotiated between he and Chi. And I think there will be tariffs left on both sides. He'll probably reduce some of the Biden tariffs, you know, which would be easy for him. to do because he didn't do them to start with, right? And so he could claim victory in that to Chi. And then I think Chi will do something as well. This is about more about negotiating global power and Chi spreading his money, their money all around the world like they were doing in Panama and other countries in Africa for sure. And so that's probably what all of this is about. It may have something to do with Taiwan as well.

It's a much bigger picture than goods. Now, also remember, you know, you've heard of these websites, like you've heard this website, T-M-U, T-E-M-U, it's a China website. Well, I think I read the other day, if it's like under $800, okay, let's say you order something from that site, and it's under $800, there's no tariff on that. There's a de minimis type thing is how they do that. So, okay. There are ways around some of that.

Most of us, honestly, most of us aren't buying things that are the super expensive things anyway. Yeah. You know. Tariffs also worked. This was a couple weeks ago now on Columbia, because the Colombian president, who, according to the Daily Wire, is a former literal Marxist terrorist, not an exaggeration. Like, he was apparently a terrorist who did so in the name of communism and Marxism. So he blocked you repatriation flights in late January filled with criminal legal aliens from the U.S.

The U.S. said, hey, we don't want your people anymore. You can deal with these criminals. We're not going to. We're going to fly in back. Here you go. They blocked the flights. So President Trump said, okay, well, 25% tariffs on all Colombian goods. And it's so funny, leftists on X, we're like, oh, no, some of our flowers and our coffee comes from Colombia.

It's okay. We're going to be fine. And the Colombian president, again, he puffed up and he said, we're not scared of you. We're going to retaliate. And you know what? You know what? We're not going to back down. The State Department said, well, we're going to continue to enforce and prioritize our

America First agenda. We are not backing down. There will be travel sanctions on individuals and their families, anyone who is responsible for the interference of these repatriation. flights. And then the Colombian president, he said the same thing. Great conversation that I had with President Trump. And this is the statement from the White House after that conversation. Very quickly, by the way, this is like all in a matter of 24 hours. The government of Columbia has agreed to all of President Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all

legal aliens from Colombia, returned from the United States. It goes on, today's events make clear to the world that America is respected again, which I just agree with. And what's crazy about this, dad, is that for years, we were told from Biden administration that he is doing everything he possibly can to protect our border. His hands are tied. It's just Congress. Congress isn't doing anything. Republicans are stopping him. And he's trying as hard as he can, but there's nothing that can be done. Trump is proving that you can just do things. You can just flex your muscles and things actually get done. Yeah. You know, the other thing that happened in that Columbia thing is the president sent his plane to pick those people up so that he had to pay for it. Yeah.

Which was even even better. So yeah, you know, and I'll tell you something else that's going to happen. It's kind of unrelated to this, but it's the same type of thing where we should be following it. You know, George Soros bought all those radio stations. Yeah. And there's a radio station in San Francisco or Sacramento, one of the two, that was announced. I don't seem where border ice people were and what cars they were in and all that type of stuff.

And I, when you endanger law enforcement, I believe that you're breaking the law. You can watch the FCC is going to come way down on that. Yeah. May pull some licenses and whatever. I mean, that's just evil.

It's so evil. Evil. And what's incredible. And George Soros, who has funded the most disastrous deadly policies and politicians in this country just has wrought chaos everywhere his money goes. He just got the, you know, the presidential freedom medal from Joe Biden.

Alex Soros is his son who now runs open society and all of his foundations continuing to fund the disasters. And Chuck Schumer posted on X that we have, you know, a billionaire run shadow government that is taking over the federal government. And of course, he's referring to Elon Musk. And who retweeted that sentiment? Alex Soros, which is just an irony because George Soros is a billionaire. None.

Who has been, which is exactly why we can't worry, I think, on the Republican side of, well, like, what are they going to do? You know, when they're in power, if we do this, not saying that they shouldn't act in integrity, but some people are worried, oh, if Trump does this, maybe Democrats are going to do that next time, Democrats are going to do it. They're always going to do the worst things that they possibly can. And so Trump's job isn't to worry about what Democrats are going to do next. His job is to worry about what he can get done right now.

He will not. Yeah. And I think he learned that from his first. I think he tried to make friends his first time. Yes. It's not the friend making business right now. Nope. And of course, for Chuck Schumer, that's a better statement to retweet than his tweet that

he put out about, you know, here's why you need to be against tariffs. Yeah. Your guacamole and your beer are going to be more expensive. And guacamole, you know, comes from avocados. He had to explain that to people too. I mean, well, yeah. In New York, they have the fake stuff that they just have to mush together.

Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Okay. Speaking of lawmakers, I saw this clip of Jasmine Crockett. She is from the great state of Texas. She's in Congress now going around again talking about mediocre white men. I don't know. I'm not really sure if she's referencing.

Everything for her goes back to white supremacy. The white man, because she's clearly so. So oppressed. Okay, let's play that clip of Jasmine. I know that I had to work 10 times as hard as they did just to get into the seat. When you look and you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Green or me to Lauren Bobert, there is no comparison. And that is the life that we have always lived. So the only people that are crying are the mediocre white boys that have been beaten out by people that historically have had to work so much harder. Oh, she's so oppressed.

She's such a victim. Okay. So were you in the Texas legislature with her or was she there after you? She came in right after me. And, you know, she wasn't even well liked within her own party in the Texas legislature. Several Democrat people that I, colleagues that I'd worked with down there, if you talk to them about her, they just roll their eyes. Because it's all about her. I mean, she's all about, you know, making a show.

She is in my book I talk about, you know, workhorses and show horses. She's a showhorse. She would someone that would get up in the middle of the legislative session when they're trying to discuss bills and make some type of lambasted speech and statement and stuff like that. I mean, just, and she never accomplished anything either, by the way. If you look at the record of the bill she passed, almost nothing. She did very little. I'll tell you what she did do. What she did do is she ran out on her responsibilities when they were trying to pass a bill that,

would cut down on election fraud and things like that to try to make elections fairer. Okay. And she and some of her colleagues led by her ran off to Washington, D.C. and refused to even do their job. That's what type of person she is. Okay. She wants to make it so it's easier to cheat. And that's why she's, you know, pro-open borders, all that type of stuff.

and she's just not a very good person. She's not a good person. She's not a bright person. And still, being a member of Congress who has made her way up from the state legislature to Congress, she still thinks that she's oppressed. She still thinks that it's the mediocre white boy that is somehow in her way. Look, if that were the case, if, like, you are so excellent, you are so much better than those mediocre boys, then you shouldn't need DEI programs and the racial quotas that purposely discriminates against white men.

If you are so awesome and so excellent, you should be able to rise to the top no matter what skin color you are. She's the epitome of a racist. She is a racist bigot. That's all that she is. I mean, I'm sorry. And that's the nicest terms I can say. Yeah. She is everything that's wrong with the whole victimhood in America.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, we have a lot of Texas legislators that make their way to Congress from Democrat-run cities that are really stupid. Yeah. Oh, I know. Yeah. And bad. What's the other lady's name from Houston? Well, she passed away. Oh. Sheila Jackson Lee. Shella Jackson Lee. She passed away. Rest in peace, lady. She was bad, though. She was really bad. Now, interestingly enough, the gentleman that took her place, Sylvester Turner, I did serve with. And so Vestrian, I had a great relationship. And I often said, at least when I served with him. Oh, didn't I just meet him? You did meet him in D.C.

He was so kind. He was so kind. And he spoke. So he was a Democrat in the Texas legislature. Yeah. And the Texas legislature now. He's in Congress. And he said, oh, your dad was my favorite legislator when we were down there because my dad, as

conservative as he is, he, I mean, you really were. with the other side because different than this show horse, you were actually concerned about, okay, what can we actually accomplish? What can we actually get done rather than like, how can I just make a name for myself? And I wish that's how all lawmakers were. And there are still some there that try to do that. I'm sure there's some in D.C. But Sylvester and I, we did work together. And I would often say, if you had helicoptered in and didn't know what party he was in, many times, you would think, well, this guy's got to be a concern. conservative Republican on this particular issue. Now, there were other things we certainly disagreed on,

but it was, yeah, he was, he's a sweet man. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Dad. And the book that you just referenced life lessons from the little red wagon, um, we'll put the link in the, in the description of the episode. I appreciate it. It's been a good time. And, um, we'll just see how things go. We're just going to keep winning. I know. I'm, I'm, I'm loving it. And you just have to, like, if you haven't learned anything from the past election, the past, four years, the best eight years, the media lies to you. And the pictures that they paint just aren't accurate. So you have to dig deeper. You have to ask questions. And sometimes you just have to ignore it and just say, no, what Trump is doing right now is in America's best interest.

And I think things are going to work out. I am so pleasantly surprised. I really thought, I mean, I love Ron DeSantis still and think he would have done a great job. No question. Excellent job. And he, in some ways kind of taught us what it was like to not care about what the other side says and just to do what's right. He kind of set the tone for that. But President Trump has really done that over the past couple of weeks. He has shown he's not just in it for a personal vindictiveness. He is, as you said, not in the friend-making business. And that's a good thing right now. Can I give one bit of encouragement to your audience? What I would encourage your audience to do is just let President Trump and his people do what they're doing, okay? They've got that. They know where they're going. But where we need to

stay involved is locally. Make sure you're getting involved. And a lot of those are happening this spring. Your local school board and city elections. You can have the most impact because it's the least turnout voters. So your vote counts a lot more. And you make sure an interview or either research each candidate. And where can they find that? They can generate. Well, first, What I would first do is find the names of the candidate and then look to see whether or not in the past, you can do this in Texas in a lot of states, whether they voted in a Democrat or Republican primary in the past. That'll tell you a lot. It won't tell you who they voted for specifically.

Can you put in like your zip code or your county and say local or like local elections in this county? Just say, yeah, you can do that. In your county, what are the local elections in 2025? Because a lot of them are nonpartisan so they don't have. have an R or D by their name, but believe me, they're partisan. Right. You need to know what their positions are, especially when it comes to school board. And you can also call your local Republican Party because they'll know and they can give you information on them as well. And you just have a lot more access to those people that are running.

Most of them I'd be happy to sit down with you over coffee. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Whereas, you know, your congressman in D.C. just probably won't be able to do that. Well, they've got a million people they represent. Exactly. Exactly. That's a really good piece of advice and advice that I'm taking a heart. So thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, before we get into the rest of the show, let me tell you about our next sponsor for the day. I love masa chips. We had this huge box of masa chips in our pantry. And we are almost out because, like, we eat them every day. They're so good. It's such a great satisfying but healthy snack because masa chips are made with only whole ingredients, no seed oils, no fake stuff, no natural flavors.

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And listen, when we started talking about this on Relatable, I think the first episode that we did on this was, 2020 maybe. I think it was four or five years ago. And I did not have all of the knowledge and all of the passion about this subject that I have now. So I'm not trying to say that I was some like trailblazer in general and talking about this. There are people who have been talking about the ethics of surrogacy and IVF for a very long time. Katie Faust comes to mind. Jennifer Lull comes to mind these are women who have really informed me on the subject and have helped me grow in this over time. And yet, most people, I will say in conservative media simply were not talking about this. And man, when we started talking about this, like if I told you some of the names

of the people in the conservative commentariat who messaged me and told me to sit down and to stop talking about this, that my position on this is sad and radical and extreme, who now seem to have moved that direction without ever telling me, hey, like, maybe I shouldn't have messaged you that. Like, you would be, you'd be pretty amazed. Or the people who I know were like, oh, I can't believe that we're talking about this, who actually thought that it was a pro-life position at one point to be for things like surrogacy.

I don't blame people for changing their minds. I've changed my mind. Like, I also didn't know about, like, the ethics of surrogacy and the industry and all of that. I would have said at one point, yeah, I don't really care. Like, how the baby comes to the world, if they come to the world, then it's beautiful and it's a blessing. And we shouldn't shame someone for that. So it is awesome for people to change their mind. I am also one of those people that as I've gotten more information, my mind has really evolved on this.

However, I'm just saying that like it is such a shift. It is such a shift from where it was a few years ago when it was very stigmatized and unpopular to broach this topic at all. And understandably, in some ways, because infertility is a very, very, very sad and difficult and sensitive and personal subject that we should approach with compassion. However, what I've realized is that we also have to approach these babies with compassion and how babies are conceived and, and how they are gestated and how they are born actually matters because they are people made in the image of God. And in all of those arenas, we should be doing everything to maximize not only their chances at physical life, but also their well-being. And so when we look at the process of IVF, we look at the process of sperm donation and egg donation and then surrogacy, none of these things

maximize the well-being of the child. They may maximize the satisfaction of the wishes of the parents, but not the well-being of the child. And when we shift our mentality to the needs of the children over the wants of the parent, that changes everything of what we think about these subjects. And as I've realized that, again, crediting so many people that were preaching that message far before I did, that has just really deepened my conviction over this. So no matter how many messages, used to get or still get from people saying I should never talk about IVF again. I literally had someone like threatened me and tell me if I talk about IVF again, she's going to make sure that I'm mass reported and that I'm deplatformed from Instagram for

talking about this. I will continue to talk about reproductive technology because these babies in the womb who are voiceless, they really matter. They really matter. And not enough people think about this. So I am always grateful when there is a story like this, even though I don't like it. like I'm grateful that there's a story like this of a prominent actress like going through this. And I am so grateful.

Truly, I'm so grateful that it has shifted so much that now so many conservatives and so many Christians are talking about this and are realizing like with every story like this that comes out, there are more people who stand up and are like, oh, that seems wrong. And so let me read you this story. And I think you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. So she's best known Lily Collins for the lead role in Netflix's Emily in Paris. She posted a photo to her Instagram account announcing the birth of her daughter via surrogate. Welcome to the center of our world.

Words will never express our endless gratitude for our incredible surrogate and everyone who helped us along the way. We love you to the moon. And back again, I have absolutely no doubt that she loves her baby very much and that she is grateful to this surrogate. Lily's post, however, was flooded with critics who were critical. that the couple had chosen to hire a surrogate. And again, this is such a shift from what it was a few years ago. And I think also just the breakneck pace of the LGBTQ sexual revolution has also made people take a step back for a second and say, hang on, how do we get here? Like, how do we get to the point to where we are now renting wombs and in some cases like buying children via egg and sperm

donation? Like how did we get to this being accepted and celebrated? Um, So one commenter wrote that surrogacy is, end quote, exploitation of an impoverished woman that shouldn't be normalized, while another user argued that having babies shouldn't be like placing an order on Amazon. Lily's husband, Charlie McDowell, quickly hopped into the comment section to defend their decision. He said basically that they are ignorant. He said, it's okay not to be an expert on surrogacy. It's okay not to know why someone might need a surrogate to have a child. It's okay to not know the motivations of a surrogate regardless of what you assume. And it's okay to spend less time spewing hateful words into the world, especially in regards to a beautiful baby girl.

See, this is often the manipulation that happens, the emotional game that is played there, that if you criticize surrogacy, if you show compassion for the surrogate, if you show compassion for the baby who has just been torn away from the only body and smell and heartbeat that she knows that you are being hate. towards the parents who wanted to do this. Because in all of these, in all forms of reproductive technology, what is being prioritized more than the well-being of the child is the wish of the parent. And I am not saying the wish of the parent does not matter at all. I am saying it does not matter as much as the well-being of the child. We do not know why Lily Collins chose a surrogate. And I know that what I will hear is that, you know, that you will, you You don't know why someone has to have a surrogate. This was their only option.

Listen, IVF and surrogacy are never someone's only option. Because adoption is possible. Adoption is available. Yes, it is expensive. So is surrogacy. So is IVF. Yes, it is difficult. And I know that people say, that is easy for you to say because you have your own biological children.

And you do not have to have struggled with. with infertility yourself to call out the objective reality of the ethical problems with something like surrogacy. Because what we have right here is actually akin to the handmaid's tail. For some reason, liberals love to dress up in their red robes and pretend that Margaret Atwood's novel is about abortion, like allowing children who have been conceived to not be murdered and to be born. that's not what it's about. It is actually much closer to the surrogacy industry and which you have rich women,

which I don't know if this is the motivation of Lily Collins, but for a lot of these celebrities that use surrogates, rich women who want a baby because they're women and they have that natural instinct to mother, but they don't want to ruin their body. And they don't want to hurt their career and they don't want to go through the sacrifice and they don't want to miss out on a job opportunity.

and so they pay a less rich woman, typically an impoverished woman, to do the hard work of carrying their child. And I know people say, well, it's voluntary. And so if everyone consents to it, what's the big deal? There are a lot of things that people consent to that are morally wrong. It technically prostitutes, many of them, not all of them, many of them may say that they are consenting to what they do. That does not mean that offering you. your body for a price is moral. Because again, we don't believe as Christians in consent-based morality. Consent is only one piece of the pie when we are deciding if something is right or wrong. People can consent to being objectified. That doesn't make objectification. Okay. People can consent

to being commodified and commercialized. That does not make the commodification and the commercialization of human beings. Okay. It is still wrong. And the person who did not consent, to any of this was the child. And as we've talked about many times, the primal wound, which some people take issue with this. But it is physiologically true that at the moment of birth, the child longs for the woman who has been carrying him or her. And ideally, like, this is also the biological mother.

But in the case of surrogacy, we. We have a lot of brokenness going on because we've got an egg, typically we have an egg donor or an egg seller. The egg seller is selling their eggs for money. They're called an egg donor, but it's a misnomer. They're selling their eggs for money. And that egg is being joined with the sperm of another person. And that embryo that is created is implanted into a surrogate who is another woman besides the biological mother. And so that is what happens, for example, in the case of two men, they're actually purchasing the egg cellar, they're purchasing a separate surrogate, they're taking the baby away from the biological mother. They're taking the baby away from the woman who carried that child. And they are intentionally raising a child who is motherless. I mean, what a cruel, draconian, demonic social experiment that we are forcing unconsenting children into in the name of love is love and inclusion.

and there are even conservatives who will get on social media and applaud that ruthless and cruel exchange. But in the case of Lily Collins, it is probably her egg. It is probably her husband's sperm. This is probably the biological child. And yet, again, we know I didn't totally finish my thought, but I'm coming back to it. There is a physiological reality here that that baby, when that baby is born, wants the woman who carried him, once who he thinks is his mother. He has heard that heartbeat for nine months.

He knows her voice. He knows her smell. He knows her. And this is all he knows. This has been his home. This is how he feels safe. And the only reason someone would scoff at that and laugh that off and wave that away is because that baby can't talk. because that baby cannot articulate that that is what he or she wants.

That baby can't tell you that that is what he is crying. And later on in life, 10 and 20 years later, when he still feels that wound of being separated from the only home he has ever known, he still won't be able to verbalize that that's what he has always known he is missing. And yet it's true. And we know that there is still a primal wound with kids who are adopted, who are separated, from their mother. Now, I am not at all against adoption. I am for adoption because adoption redeems a broken situation, but surrogacy creates the broken situation. Adoption redeems and

cares for in principle, a baby that has already been created, has already been conceived, but surrogacy and even the IVF that always has to accompany surrogacy, you are purposely from the start creating a child to be separated from the natural process of conception and gestation. And in the case of surrogacy, in the case of egg and sperm donation, you are purposely creating that child to be separated from their mother and or father and the woman who created them. So you are creating the broken situation in service of your wants. And so we know that. We know that the separation that happens at birth for a variety of reasons, whether it's because of surrogacy or not, can actually have a lifelong, indelible psychological, physiological effect on a child.

And we are willing to risk that, especially in the United States, because, well, the parents just wanted it. The parents wanted a child. And so we think, especially pro-lifers, think that we should take in any means necessary approach to having children because having children is good, but that is not actually the pro-life and moral position. And there's some really good insightful commentary on this on social media that I'll get into in a second. Let me go ahead and tell you about our last sponsor for the day first.

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absolutely right. And I do think that there are progressives and conservatives that agree on this. And I think that there are progressives and conservatives that are for this that will not say anything about it because they don't want to upset their gay friends, which is very sad. Someone also said, what is up with this trend of wealthy women paying surrogates to carry their baby? The most wonderful journey of being parents is the pregnancy. The thought of providing everything the baby needs in your utero is a mother's privilege. and blessing. Absolutely right. Other people are pointing out that basically this is saying pregnancy is just for poor women. Pregnancy is just for women who need the financial help.

This person, Maria, says on X the future. Pregnancy is for poor women. Yeah, that's basically the concept of the handmaid's tale. And most progressives are fine with this. Not all, but most progressives are totally fine with this form of trafficking women's bodies and commercializing children. Billy Bragg, I follow her on X. She says, just such a coincidence how so many rich women whose careers are built around their physical attractiveness have to use surrogates, isn't it? Another mystery will never get to the bottom of. Now, there are many, even though this is not an LGBTQ story, there are many in the LGBTQ world who are very fiercely defensive of things like surrogacy, because again, they are prioritizing their own wants over the well-being of children. And so they will purposely create fatherless children.

They will purposely create motherless children. They will use the sperm sellers. They will use the egg sellers. And they will create this children. And they will convince themselves that their children are fine, that they're not robbing their children of anything. But spoiler, the two people needed to make a. baby are also needed to raise a baby and to purposely create a motherless or fatherless child. It's a social experiment that is extremely new. Those chickens will come home to roost at some point.

We don't know exactly what that's going to look like, but I guarantee you it will not be good. We're going to have a lot of lost and lonely and very confused young people. And I hear stories all the time, by the way, that you guys send me, you were a nanny, you were a teacher, and you met a child who was especially like little girls who, who, who are raised by two men, who would always ask if you were their mother, who would have the propensity to go around to different women that they see and ask, are you my, are you my mom? You'll remember, this is not surrogacy or LGBTQ related, but Hayden Panetteer a few years ago, she was separated from her child. I think she was in rehab. She had her own issues going

on, and her child was very young. And her father told Hayden, that while they were apart, their young daughter would approach every woman they saw and ask, are you my mommy? Are you my mommy? Well, of course, because kids want their moms. Kids need their moms. Do you remember Lance Bass, the in-sync singer, he's gay. He had his kids via egg seller and surrogate. He actually told the media, I think it was People magazine publicly. He said, I'm so sad because my kids, I think they were toddlers at that point. They won't cuddle with me. But whenever my mom comes over, they always want to cuddle with her. Hmm.

Yeah, probably because you robbed your kids of a mom. And they're wondering, like, it's like that Dr. Seuss. Actually, I think it's P.D. Eastman. But it's like under the Dr. Seuss umbrella, that book. Like, where is my mother? And you have the little baby bird going around to the cow and to the truck and to all these different objects. Where is my mother? Yeah, everyone wants to know that.

Everyone wants to know who's they are. and from where they come. The LGBTQ media world, the progressives, and not everyone who is in this world is okay with surrogacy. So I just want to say that up front. There are many who say no, there's something wrong with that. And even though they identify as gay or something else, they understand that it's not their right to purchase children.

But Pink News is like a big LGBTQ media outlet. They're a digital publisher. they responded to the trending conversation with an article celebrating surrogacy for quote unquote gay dads. It's worth noting that. So here's the headline. It says an outstanding gift, gay dad on the joy of having a child via surrogacy. And so they go through this person's these people's story, Kevin and Michael. They have a child via surrogate. this dad says it's a special kind of relationship without a name. Our surrogate is not a sister aunt or cousin, but she is family. And then they are lamenting that there's a massive shortage of surrogates in the UK

and they need women to step up. They also say that this is an altruistic thing from surrogates, but it's not. It's not altruistic because these surrogates are getting paid tens of thousands of dollars. and they are typically already mothers who feel strapped for cash. Do you remember the story of Brittany? The woman who was strapped for cash was already a mother of four who was a surrogate twice. And the second time she was a surrogate, she was a surrogate for two men. She came on here to tell her story.

She was diagnosed with cancer when she was pregnant. They told her, we don't want anything to do with this baby because something bad might happen to it. So abort this baby at 24 weeks. Abort this baby. And we don't want anything to do with you. we don't want anything to do with the baby. She did not want to abort the baby. The doctor said, hey, you really need to deliver early for your own health. We don't know entirely what happened, but she delivered very early and the baby did not live. And again, we don't know entirely what happened

with that procedure, but the dads that hired her wanted nothing to do with the remains of the baby. They just said they want a new surrogate to, quote, try again. So I'm not saying that at all describes every gay couple and how they treat their surrogate. But again, this like rosy picture of like the friends and everything that is just not always the case. So this person, Helen Prosser is actually who said there's a massive shortage of surrogates in the UK. Women need to step up. She points to the desire of women to have children as a way to get women interested in being a surrogate. It's innate.

It's innate, she says. the desire to have children and we feel it is one of the greatest joys that somebody can have. Yes, to have your own children. To have your own children. Katie Faust says, do you know how hard it is to make a motherless baby in response to all of this? A mother is required for life to being is the child's entire emotional, nutritional, physical world for nine and a half months and even beyond that if you're breastfeeding. It's critical to infant bonding, attachment, and soothing.

Surrogacy is anti-human peddled as progress. And the CEO of Pink News is Benjamin Cohen and his partner, former trustee of a UK pro-LGBU organization called Mermaids. They have a picture of themselves carrying a newborn baby they obtained via surrogacy away from his mother. Just as a reminder, surrogacy, whether it's two men doing it or whether it's a man or a woman, doing it like we are treating babies worse than we are treating puppies. We say that puppies and kittens need to stay with their mothers for eight to 12 weeks because it is cruel to take them away from their dog mom or their cat mom. And yet for babies, human beings born via surrogacy, we take them away from their mothers and from the woman who gestated them minutes after birth. And I'm telling you

that is cruel. It is exploitation. It doesn't. I don't care what the gender are of the people doing this. I care about the children. And no matter how a child is conceived, that child is made in the image of God, has just as much value as my children or anyone else's, as should be cherished and loved and cared for. And I believe these parents do love their kids. But again, the safety, the well-being, the interests of children

must supersede the desires of the parents and of grownups. And if you want more information about all of this, I have so many episodes on surrogacy and IVF and sperm and egg selling. We'll put a few of them in the description of this episode. We can't put all of them because there are so many, especially if you want to know more about IVF, because it seems to surprise people my position on it. We have many conversations about it, compassionate, gentle conversations about it. Some passionate, though, from all different angles. People have struggled with infertility from a doctor's perspective, from the advocate's perspective,

like all different kinds of perspectives on it. We have covered on this show. So go back and listen to those. If you're curious about it, as you can hear, like, I'm very adamant about this subject. And it's not because I have like disdain for people who have gone through this or struggled with this. It's because like there's just not enough people sticking up for these children. So thank you to those of you who are doing that now and who have done that because culture is changing.

Times they are changing on this in. a really, really good way and praise the Lord for that. The prayer of a righteous person has much power as it is working. And the Lord is using every step of obedience of Christians, private and public to change the game and to protect these children. So let's keep going. Let's keep raising a respectful rock is about this. All right, that's all we got time for today. We'll be back here tomorrow.