Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1137 | Paula White & 'He Gets Us' Get Jesus Wrong

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

In today's episode, we go over the best and worst of yesterday's Super Bowl ads, from a tearjerker Google Gemini commercial to a cringe "anti-hate" commercial featuring Snoop Dogg. Of course, it wouldn't be a Super Bowl without the He Gets Us campaign running yet another commercial that completely misses the point of the gospel. At least players and even Nick Sirianni, the Eagles coach, gave glory to God before and after the game. And did Kendrick Lamar mock America, or was his halftime performance patriotic? Lastly, Trump named Paula White, prosperity gospel "pastor," the head of his new White House faith office. We go over some of her false teachings and distortions of the gospel and why, despite her closeness to Trump, she may not be the best person to head this important office. Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (00:36) Recovering from sickness (06:20) Super Bowl recap (13:45) Best and worst Super Bowl ads (27:27) Athletes give glory to Jesus (28:35) Kendrick Lamar halftime show  (31:50) “He Gets Us” ad commentary (54:08) Paula White to lead White House Faith Office (01:04:26) Paula White’s false teachings  ---   Today's Sponsors: America's Christian Credit Union — Switch to America's Christian Credit Union today for faith-aligned banking with exceptional rates and nationwide access. Visit https://www.americaschristiancu.com/allie to get started! Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' for a free month of service! My Patriot Supply — Prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get a $250 discount off your Emergency Food Kit at https://PrepareWithAllie.com. Jase Medical — Go to Jase.com and enter code “ALLIE” at checkout for a discount on your order. --- Related Episodes: Ep 753 | 'He Gets Us': The Good, the Bad & the Unbiblical https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-753-he-gets-us-the-good-the-bad-the-unbiblical/id1359249098?i=1000599425881 Ep 949 | What ‘He Gets Us’ Gets Wrong https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-949-what-he-gets-us-gets-wrong/id1359249098?i=1000645089893 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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That's fellowship homelones.com slash alley, term supply, see site for details, fellowship home loans, mortgage lending by the book, nationwide mortgage bankers, DBA Fellowship Home Loans, Equal Housing Lender, NMLS, number 819382. Paula White has been appointed by President Trump to lead his new White House Faith office. Who is she? And why is she so controversial? We'll get into all of that. But first, we will look at the Super Bowl, the great ads, the cringe ads, and the he gets us ads. We've got so much on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Alley at checkout. That's good ranchers.com. Code Alley. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had it. a wonderful and restful weekend. You can tell from the sound and from the look that I am not in my studio recording remotely today. We are going to talk about All Think Super Bowl, and yes,

we will get into Paula White. I've gotten so many messages about that. And per usual, we have so much to talk about this week. So much to talk about. I am going to try my darnness to get it all in. there were so many things I wanted to talk about in today's episode that we just didn't have time when we were researching and putting our outline together, like Wheaton College and their response to Russ Voight being appointed and being confirmed to his position of the Trump administration, what went on with Kanye West this weekend. I will do my best to get into all of that, probably on Wednesday because tomorrow we are talking to Wes Huff. If you haven't listened to his conversation with Joe Rogan, you should, and we will get into a lot of really interesting

apologetics, theology, history stuff tomorrow. So tune into that. Thank you to all of you who have been praying for us as we have been battling the flu in our home. I told you on Instagram, but if you didn't catch it, my encouragement to you is that if you are in the midst of flu, we had flu A, it lasts a long time. Like this flu just really hangs on. This is like a second. This is like a seven to 10-day deal. And what I have been told, both by our pediatrician and by those of you out there who have been experiencing this sickness, is that you really have to look out for the post-infection infections. And this is true, I think, of all viruses at all times, but it seems to me like the post-flu infections are really common this year. So things like pneumonia, sinus infection,

ear infections. Again, I think we're probably always susceptible to those things when our immune systems are suppressed. But I'm just noticing that this seems to be really common and then catching a different kind of flu strand the next week. And so I have been taking, trying to get my kids to take, they've been taking like their normal supplements. But Chief Related, Bro and I have been taking in addition to our normal We Heart Nutrition supplements, Seamoss gel. I don't know if you guys have ever had Seamoss gel. You got to kick out of me saying on Instagram that it's not the best thing I've ever tasted, but it is the worst. It is the exact kind of texture that you would expect from seymots, which is not good.

I hear that it comes in gummy form and capsule form. I don't know if that is as fresh or if it works as well, if it's as bioavailable as the form that I got. I got it from sprouts. And just like a morning, it is ridiculously expensive, which don't tell Dave Ramsey this, but that is like why I got it. I saw it and the fact that it was $35 for a jar, I was like, that's intriguing. It must really work. That's probably not the way to grocery shop. But I'm glad that I got it because I actually think that it's helping. I had just seen like the benefits of Ashwaganda, and I'm sure there are some of you out there who like have heard horror stories about Ashwaganda. I have no idea. But I've heard the benefits.

of it and so it has like black seed oil and different things in there too. I actually really think that it's helped me because every day I start thinking that I am going to have the onset of the flu. I started having symptoms last week. It just dissipates by the afternoon, which is crazy for the flu. Typically when one person gets it in a household, everyone gets it and somehow she related bro and I have like been on the brink of it and then we just haven't gotten it. I've also taken local elderberry. that's helped. I've taken like a lot of zinc and of course vitamin C and D. And there are all other kinds of things. A lot of you out there have recommended oregano oil. I don't think that I've taken that for immunity purposes, but if you guys say that it works, I believe you. And so I'm praying

for you and I am thinking about you. My thoughts and prayers and heart and sympathy. And yes, empathy is with you if you are going through that yourself or if your kids are going through it. It's just really, really tough when your kids are sick and when every day you wake up hoping, okay, today's the day. They're going to be back to 100% and they're still feeling miserable and pitiful. And it's just really hard. But thank the Lord. I've just been like thanking the Lord for immune systems and for all of the tools that he

has given us to like fight sicknesses. And it's also a great gospel opportunity conversations I've had with my five-year-old just that one day there will be no more sickness. And one day our bodies will be whole and perfect. And we will never have to get the flu. We'll never get the stomach bug. We will never have to worry about all different kinds of ailments and imperfections and struggles and suffering and pain that we have to go through.

And one day we will live in perfect peace. And so even moments like this, it's a good opportunity to remind our kids of future joy and redemption. and to rely on the Lord when things are hard and to pray, even for things that might seem small and might seem temporary, we get to cast all of our cares on the Lord because he cares for us. And that's just a beautiful reality. So praying for all of those little difficult but redemptive moments and your life. All right.

The Super Bowl was yesterday. Maybe you didn't watch the Super Bowl. And if you didn't, I don't blame you because I didn't really have a dog in this fight. the chiefs are cool, I guess. They've been in the Super Bowl a lot. And that's great. Good for them. I hear that going to the Super Bowl as a football team is positive, so happy for them. And then you have the Eagles, which I understand they were also glad to go to the Super Bowl. And I think they've also won the Super Bowl in the past. And so also good for them. But as I will get into in just a second, I decided at the end after the Eagles won that I am an Eagles fan and I was glad that they won

because the coach gave glory to God and I think that we have that clip. If we don't have that clip, we should make sure that we have it so I can play it and because it was really sweet how he just praised Jesus as he was trying to hold it together in this monumental moment. So we'll get to that in a second but first we'll get into some more lighthearted things. Let's get into our You know what? Let me actually, let me just go ahead and play. Since I referenced it, let me just go ahead and play that really, like, beautiful moment. This is one of many moments of people glorifying God and praising Jesus before and after the Super Bowl.

But this is the moment that I referenced. Producer Bree said it's Saught 10. So let's play Saatin. Nick, Super Bowl champions. What does the moment mean? God's blessed us very much. He gave us all the talents to be. able to get here. So first and foremost, thanks to him. And this is the ultimate team game.

You can't be great without the greatness of others. And we, great performance by everybody, offense, defense, special teams, how we getting us the guys, our coaching staff, these great players. We didn't really ever care what anyone thought about how we won or their opinions. All we want to do is win. That's why we listen to my prerogative a little bit when we were after some wins, but thank God. Thank you, Jesus. That was really sweet. When I was watching that, the interviewer said after that, he was like, yeah, we know you're an emotional guy. I was like, well, okay. I mean, I was kind of like offended for him. The coach didn't seem offended at all. It's not a bad thing to show emotion. And I thought that was just really beautiful that he took the

opportunity to praise Jesus. Okay. Now let's get into some more lighthearted things. Let's Well, I guess you could consider this lighthearted. You could consider it sad. You could consider it happy. But it is indicative, I think, of the so-called vibe shift that has happened in this country. Trump was at the Super Bowl game and he was cheered. Taylor Swift, the girlfriend of Chiefs player Travis Kelsey was there and she was booed. So here is Trump being cheered. It's not one. Okay, it's kind of hard to tell, but he is. being cheered when he is on camera and everyone sees him. He's there saluting, looking very regal, patriotic might be the better adjective. Everyone cheers so loudly and it's just like a really sweet, I think, unifying, happy moment. And then Taylor Swift is also put up on the JumboTron and

she didn't get quite the reception. The President Trump did. Here's not too. Okay, I think I'm probably going to have a wide variety of opinions on that. If you're just listening to this, she's like looking around, she's on the Jumbotron, she's looking around like, uh, what is going on? I'm not even sure if she knows that she is being booed in that moment. She clearly feels awkward. And I feel for her. Maybe I shouldn't, but I do. I do. I just thought that this is kind of like unnecessary and rude. Obviously, I really disagree with Taylor Swift politically. I don't consider myself a Swifty at all. But I didn't, I didn't understand why. Is it just because people think that she is like distracted? Kelsey, like, do they, do they just think that she

has turned the NFL into kind of like a spectacle, trivialized it, made it about her somehow? Or is it because she's a lib? And a lot of people aren't libs anymore. and people have a lot of growing disdain for lives and people who are anti-Trump. And she was very vehemently anti-Trump during the campaign, just according to her post and her endorsement of Kamala Harris and her outspokenness for child murder, abortion, and things like quote-unquote LGBTQ rights, including the so-called right of a man to go into girls' spaces. Like, all of those things, I think, are worth booing. I don't know if she should be booed at the Super Bowl.

She's just there supporting her boyfriend. I don't know. It just seemed like an odd and unnecessarily rude thing to me. But you can tell me, you can tell me what you think in the comments. Okay, we've got more. I want to go through some of my favorite ads and some of my least favorite ads and tell you what I think about them and what it says about the culture in general. And just a second, but let me go ahead and pause, tell you about our first sponsor for the day.

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because I don't even remember what Rocket is. I guess when I rewatch this ad, I'll remember, but I love Take Me Home Country Road. It has been one of my favorite songs for a very long time, and it will always be nostalgic. just loved the South. I loved going to college in the South. And I just remember this song being played so much. And I will never not love it. So whenever I hear it, and it also reminds me of that scene in the office between Andy and Dwight. So many songs that I love remind me of scenes from the office. Anyway, I thought that this was a very sweet pro-family, pro-community, just positive message using John Denver's Take Me Home Country Road. Here's.

saw three. Yes, Virginia. Yeah, I can't wait to get there, man. Country road. It says everyone deserves their shot at the American train. No, I still don't know what Rocket is. If someone could tell me in the chat, in our team chat, what Rocket is, that would be great.

I'm just curious. But I loved that, that it's very pro-American dream, very sweet, very pro-life, pro-baby, pro-future. just really beautiful and indicative of, I think, where the culture is and what the culture wants to get back to. Financial technology company that offers mortgage real estate and personal finance services. Okay, that's Rocket. Good job, Rocket. And then Google had this really sweet job interview ad that was very hard for me. Here's that soft for. When you're ready, tell me about the job that taught you the most. Okay. It was a role where I learned to take constructive criticism.

I think she's like, oh, no, it doesn't like it. Okay. I got pretty used to, you know, working long hours with a small team. All right. Last question. When it comes to work, what motivates you? I guess knowing that people can depend on me, knowing I can depend on them too.

I'm trying not to sob. That was really sweet. So again, if you're listening to this, this is a dad. He's using Gemini AI. on his Google phone to, like, take mock questions to get ready for a job interview. He's, like, he's doing job interviews because he's, I guess, just, I don't know if he's been, like, a full-time dad, single dad, stay-at-home dad for the past, however many years. And all of the, I'm, like, literally about to cry that I'm explaining this.

Because I think about this all the time, like parenting gives you so much experience, like life experience, job experience, management experience, a time management experience. like there's just so much. There's so much that you learn from being a parent. So he's talking about like constructive feedback and all of these things that he learned, but you see depictions of him being a dad over the years, and that's what he's referring to,

that he learned all of these skills while he was a dad. Now his daughter's going off to college, and so he's applying for a new job, and it's just really sweet. Okay, DoorDash. This one's funny. I'm not going to cry. This is Nate Burgosci. He's my favorite comedian for so many reasons. I'll tell you why in just a second,

and I just thought this was a really funny commercial in his very trademark style. Here is SOT 23. Nate, we need to talk about your finances. My finances are fine. With DashPass, I saved $6 on my grocery order, so I clone myself. Albuquerque. Zero dollar delivery fees on dog toys.

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I'm saving. Okay, I love Napragazzi. So I went to a Napragazzi show a couple years ago when I had just heard of him. I think Timothy and I saw Chief Relatorbrough and I saw him on Netflix. And we were like crying, laughing, watching his special. So we saw him live. And I don't think I have ever been to an event that is not my own event that I have run into as many relatable viewers and listeners as I did there.

crossover, at least then, now he's become like this megastar with probably like just a wide array of people that watch him, but like the crossover of Napagazzi fans and relatable fans, it was huge and it was super fun because he is a clean comic. Like he doesn't cuss, he doesn't talk about sex, he doesn't do anything off color. He doesn't, as far as I know, is not like explicitly talking about Christianity, but he definitely doesn't make fun of Christianity. And And I think he actually is a Christian, but he's not, like, what I would call a Christian comic, quote-unquote. He doesn't really get into politics. Sometimes he just, like, makes fun of himself for not really understanding, like, assertions about climate change and things like that.

But he's just, he's very dry, he's very funny, and he has completely blown up in popularity over the past couple of years. And he did this interview with Kevin Hart and this other guy from Messina. I forget his name. And they're trying to get him to cuss. And he's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. That's kind of like my whole thing. And they just start dropping like F bombs, MF, blah, blah, blah. And he's just sitting there.

And I just thought, first of all, Kevin Hart, the reason that you have to rely, the reason why anyone has to rely on crude language to tell a joke is because you're not actually funny. You're not actually clever. It's just shock value and people laugh because that's what they're used to. maybe they do think it's funny or they're just uncomfortable. And Napragasi just kind of like sat there.

I just thought that was really rude. That was completely inhospitable and uncalled for and unnecessary. And I just appreciate that Nate Brigazzi. He's been on SNL. He's, I think he has like a Las Vegas residency right now or something. Obviously, he's in a Super Bowl commercial and he has still stayed true to that, that he has not compromised on what has become his brand. but started, I think, just like, as a value.

And that's really cool. And I really appreciate that. And we are going to see him again in just a few months, and I'm pumped about it. All right. Now we have someone who is very confusing to me. Snoop Dog is everywhere. And I did not, you know, people are talking about, oh, I didn't vote for Elon Musk. You know, he's a part of the administration.

I did not vote for Snoop Dog to be everywhere, to be in every commercial, to be on every show, to be like the mascot for everything. Like he was like the mascot for the Olympics. And I'm like, okay, this is literally the guy that a few years ago made a music video that depicted a like mock assassination of Donald Trump. And now here he is in a commercial standing up against hate. I hate you because we're from different neighborhoods. I hate you because you look different.

I hate you because I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. I hate you because I think you. hate me because i need someone to blame because you talk different because you act different because you're just different man i hate the things are so bad that we have to do a commercial about it me too silly silly it's just silly that snoop dog is the voice for that i don't i just really don't understand it there's a lot of people who have a reputation for being like very loving and unifying i didn't know that snoop dog was one of those people can someone just like clue me in as to why

He has become like the symbol of unity for the United States when again he made that video just a few years ago. And as far as I know, it's not like he's like asked forgiveness for that. Okay. We got a lot to talk about. And so I'm not even, I'm not even going to play these next ones. These are like my least favorite ones. And there were two ads, one by Nike, one by NFL. And the NFL was about, it was like depicted this girl.

It was like stereotypical 80s high school, and it was a high school girl that was going up against a group of very strong and masculine, macho football, like male football players. And it was flag football, and they were like, yeah, you can't beat us. And she was like, yeah, I can. And then she played flag football against these guys, and she beat all of them. And they were like, we need flag football for girls. to be made of varsity sport in all 50 states. Why flag football?

Hey, if girls can beat guys as the NFL apparently thinks, then why not tackle football? What's wrong with that? I'm not against flag football for girls. I think that's fine. They're going to be great in all 50 states. I think girls would probably really excel in that. If they can play soccer, if they can play rugby,

rugby is probably a lot more physical even than flag football. Then that's fine. I think girls in athletics is a good thing. but why does it have to be that in order for a sport to be legitimate for girls, a girl has to be able to beat a boy? Because that's what you just depicted in a NFL as a fantasy. That would never happen, literally never happened anywhere on earth, ever. Would a 15-year-old girl be able to beat 15-year-old boys in a sport like soccer?

I mean, as a sport like football. It would literally never happen. like 15-year-old girls would probably have a hard time beating like 11-year-old boys. I probably couldn't. Literally in flag football, I don't think 15-year-old girls could be 11-year-old boys. And so just say that you want sports for girls, you don't need to have them in this weird fantasy of being able to beat a boy in that game because, again, it's impossible. And then Nike has an ad that is promoting girls' sports, you know,

promoting Caitlin Clark, and they say, you can't put yourself, you, the narrator says, you can't put yourself first, so put yourself first. I don't understand that. You can't put yourself first, so put yourself first. Okay. Okay, good advice. But just as a reminder, Nike has been anti-women for a very long time and their acceptance of trans ideology. in 2020, Nike joined 142 businesses to support overturning a Tennessee bill that would prevent male athletes from competing in girls sports in 2023. Nike partnered with trans-identifying male Dylan Mulvaney, his 100 days of girlhood where he pretended to basically be like a 12-year-old girl as a grown 30-year-old man. They partnered with him to promote their sports bras and

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They created this compilation of Super Bowl athletes bringing glory to Jesus before the game. Here's God 8. Jesus is my Lord and Savior. It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life and how I want to live my life. And so Jesus is everything to me. In my faith, this has always been a part of me where I've always wanted to root myself in that and keep him in the center of my life and everything that I do. God's every decision that I make. And he has a, as a love that's so forgiving. You know, all my shortfalls, I know that he's there. It's a weight lift off your shoulder when you know you have that power. You know, that the Lord's gone through, he's gone through every single adversity that could ever go through, you know, and he's dominated.

I know I'm nothing without him, man. I feel like it doesn't get any more simpler than that. Nothing matters other than the serving, serving God, because all this, it goes away. I love that. And there were many others, too, but all of those were different players on each team talking about just who Jesus is, why they want to glorify God with their lives. And I love that so much. All right. Let's talk about the halftime show for just a second.

I don't have that much to say about this. I know people always have very strong opinions about the halftime show. I don't really. Okay, so Kendrick Clomar, he's a rapper. I, you know, people debate all the time whether any artist is talented. I do think that he is very talented. It probably doesn't come as a surprise to you that I am not like an OG Kendrick Clomar fan.

Like, this is not what is playing. and the soundtrack of my life. But I have listened to some of his music, and I do think that it's unique. He is very, I think, lyrically gifted. I find his lyrics to be very clever and interesting. And if we're just going to have like a battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake when it comes to that,

I find Drake's songs to be very sad and silly. And again, I probably haven't listened to a Drake song since 2017. And I find Kendrick Lamar's songs kind of scary, but interesting. Interesting. Like, I want to listen to the lyrics to try to figure out what he's saying, and he had this whole disc track against Drake. I guess they have some beef, and that disc track became very popular, and he's singing at

the Super Bowl show. And, yeah, I guess some people liked it, and some people didn't. Some people also thought that he was making fun of America. Some people thought it was patriotic. Like, if you see this picture, his dancers are in red one. white and blue. He's in the middle. And this is supposed to be like the American flag. And some people are also saying the fact that he used Samuel L. Jackson, dresses Uncle Sam introducing Kendrick Lamar. Like that was a nod to America. Other people are saying, no, this was actually saying that America

has never really accepted or understood like rap and hip hop, which is a criticism that Kendrick Lamar has given before. And Kendrick Lamar is not known as a wholesome figure. He did a couple years ago do this whole thing at one

of his shows where he was dressed up like Jesus with the crown of thorns with fake blood dripping down his face and also saying yeah, women's rights. Here's not nine. God's be for women's rights. They judge you. They judge Christ.

God's speed for women's rights. rights. They judge you. They judge Christ. Or they judge you. That's what I heard. They judge you. They judge Christ. Godspeed for women's rights. And this was right after the overturning of Roe v. Wade. I mean, just the utter blasphemy of that. I don't think that we should give Kendrick Lamar the benefit of the doubt in his Super Bowl show that he was actually like saying that America is awesome. However, there are some positive aspects of it. Like, we didn't see a bunch of like, um, scantily clad women or sexually perverse dancing. There was nothing about LGBTQ.

And since it was up for interpretation, it wasn't like blatantly anti-American. It's fine. It's fine. I don't really have that much else to say about that. So there we go. All right. Let's talk about something much more important

that people always ask me about every year that I think I've given a monologue on for the past few years. And that is more my past episodes, past years, given a more thorough rebuttal for the He Gets Us campaign. And so I would go back and listen to some of those things because honestly, it's a little bit repetitive. I feel the same way this year as I've always felt about He Gets Us. And so for my past commentary on it, just go, you can type in Relatable He Gets Us wherever you listen or on YouTube and the monologues will come up. But He Gets Us had another ad at the Super Bowl this year and I thought it posed the same issues, had the same problems.

as years past. And here is part of that ad. It's not 12. Personal. Jesus. Someone to hear your prayers. Someone who's there. Feeling unknown and you're all alone.

Okay. So this is Jesus showing us what greatness really is. It's a bunch of depictions of people like being there for each other, feeling deeply for someone else, helping someone who either looks like them or doesn't look like them. You've got someone at a pride parade being hugged by a person wearing a John 316 hat. You've got someone like washing off some graffiti on a wall that says go back. And apparently this is supposed to be about Jesus. And the tagline is, he gets us all of us.

This was an ad created by Lerma. This is a creative advertising agency who has created the previous he gets us ads. And we'll get into that in just a second. I'll tell you my specific thoughts about this campaign and this ad in a moment, but just as a refresher of the background of he gets us, like, where is this coming from? This is the only explicitly, if you could even call it that explicitly Christian ad at the Super Bowl. And so I think it's worth looking at, well, who created it and why? So he gets us launched in 2022. It was their first Super Bowl ad appeared at Super Bowl 57 in

2003. In its first year, he gets us reportedly cost $100 million their ad campaign. It was funded by the signatory. And it wasn't, I think that's kind of wrong to say it was funded by the signatory because a Christian, it's just a Christian donor-advised fund.

And so it wasn't funded by the signatory. It was funded by donors who donated through the signatory. But the signatory is a company that promises to channel its contributors' dollars into biblically responsible investments. And so that year, it actually caught a lot of flack from progressives in the media because of their ties to the signatory. And because

the signatory donates, or so these people said, so these angry activists said, donates millions of dollars to alliance defending freedom. You guys know what ADF is. The left paints it as anti-LGB, hateful, all of this stuff, even though they're just fighting for religious liberty, our First Amendment rights. And so because of that connection, a lot of people on the left were angry. But this is a really stupid controversy because, as I've already alluded to, a donor-advised fund, they're not just, they're not actually donating their own dollars to these organizations. A donor advised fund is taking the donor funds from donors and they are donating it to the cause that the donors say that they want to donate to. You can do that through fidelity.

There are a lot of secular corporations that would allow you to donate your funds to Christian or non-Christian organizations through them. This just happens to be an explicitly Christian company that works with Christians. Also the first year of the campaign, you had the hobby lobby lobby. founders, they were a part of it and they're, you know, according to the left, there's controversy surrounding the Green family because Hobby Lobby fought to not have to supply their employees with abortifacient birth control, which of course, he gets us now, though, is run by a nonprofit group called Come Near. So they took over the He Gets Us campaign in 2024. and they took over the funding and the oversight of the marketing campaign.

And that is probably where a lot of the, I would say, most of the direction and the content has come from in addition to he gets us using the LRMA ad agency. So the LRMA ad agency is a far left pro-LGBQ ad agency. and it's a very strange choice for any Christian campaign. Whether you agree with their content or their strategy or not, it is a very weird choice to choose a pro-LGB, pro-Sacularism, far-left ad agency. There are Christian ad agencies,

they're conservative ad agencies, there are more apolitical ad agencies, but they chose Lerma ad agency. They say that their focus is on inclusive marketing for diverse audiences to navigate today's complex consumer landscape. We understand the euphemisms being used there. They want to heavily promote, quote unquote, LGBTQIA plus visibility in marketing. When it came to, He Gets Us, they said that they are using the confrontation of Jesus.

They're heading confrontation. So this is their overview of the campaign. Quote, he gets us tells the story of Jesus through a modern lens. But it doesn't even really do that. It's not even telling the story of Jesus to demonstrate the way he fought for radical love and inclusion. So the company that made this campaign, that's what they're saying, this is who Jesus is, which of course is not the biblical definition of Jesus. Yes, radical love, not radical.

inclusion in that he said the way to heaven is very narrow, the way to death and to hell is very wide. And John 146, only those who come through me will make it to the father. I am the way the truth of the life. No one comes to the father except through me. And so it depends on what you mean by inclusion. Yes, he loved the world, as John 316 said. but he also told everyone that he came into contact with to go and sin no more, to repent of their sin, to take up their cross and follow Christ. The campaign has garnered 4.8 million website users,

1.4 billion video views, and 196 million digital media engagement numbers are growing daily. So a little bit more about Lerma. If you look at their Instagram page, for example, they've got a post that says, Brand with Pride, a brief history of LGBTQIA plus visibility in advertising. And one of their posts mentioned this 2015 ad by Gillette that promoted a so-called transgender teen shaving for the first time. That's really hard to believe that that was 2015 because I remember that. And I'm pretty sure that was just a couple of years ago. But their page does say that that was 2015. And so that's what Lerma believes, who is behind he gets us. Also, if you look at he gets us their own website, when they're asked about things, like the FAQ section,

asked about their stance on the LGBTQ community. They say, Jesus loves gay people. He loves trans people. I already have like a problem with that language, especially trans people, because no one is truly transgender. You can't actually transition. from one gender or one sex to the other, it's not possible. And so already they're adopting just deceitful language that could actually affirm and validate someone's sin and the lies that they believe. They say, no matter who you are, you are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what it means for your life.

Well, that's not the gospel. It's not even close to the gospel. It's not even introducing someone to the gospel. It's not even talking. I'm not even saying it has to be fire and brimps. stone, but it's not even offering a little bit of their need for a savior, which I think is pretty important to articulate, because there's not good news unless you understand the bad news. And the bad news is that we are sinners in need of a savior, that we are dead in sin apart from Christ. And again,

I'm not saying that you have to say that in some like mean, violent way, but it should be clear, or at least at the very least, low bar here, like implied. Who does he gets us believe Jesus is. They say that they include people in this project who believe lots of different things about Jesus. And they say he gets us as a project under Come Near, a nonprofit startup who believe that Jesus was human and divine, rose from the dead, and more. And so, again, just very vague. And they talk about on their website that Jesus defined true greatness in a very different

way, he showed that the greatest thing that we could be is in humble service to others, which is not completely true. Again, the world already believes that Jesus was just a moral teacher. The world already believes that he was some, like, hippie-dippy, loving guy who said true things and told us to live gentler and more service-minded lives. People already believe that. And these ads just seem to affirm this idea of Jesus being a moralistic hippie teacher who has nothing to offer you beyond just some better rules for life. Natasha Crane has talked about, written about he gets us very many times.

She's got a lot of good thoughts in her rebuttal to He Gets Us. I can't read the entire thing she posted on Acts. I'll read you some of it. I thought she pointed out some really good points here because I get a lot of pushback saying, okay, but it's not actually harmful. It might not be perfect, but we should nitpick it. We should just be glad that Christians are even given any kind of platform. And so I just want to read you part of what she says.

So she says these ads are actually incredibly harmful to the cause of evangelism because the campaign reinforces what culture wants to believe about Jesus while leaving out what culture doesn't want to believe. If culture's wrong ideas about Jesus become more deeply seated due to a campaign like this, it simply makes it harder for biblically faithful Christians to share about the real Jesus. A Jesus, people often don't want to hear about. And I think that's a really good point. She also says the ad centers around a question that is problematic in and of itself, which means like what does it mean to be great?

She says that they say that loving others is what he gets us says means to be great. But the truth is that loving others according to scripture is second to loving God. And in order for it to be great, it must be an outflow of our love for God, which he gets us really just dismisses or ignores all together. She also points out that the immigration and LGBTQ references slightly promote a lot of progressive agenda, which is true. You never really see the reverse. They have this historically, theologically inaccurate ad saying that like Jesus was a refugee or Jesus was an immigrant, and he wasn't. But you never see it like the other way. You never see sly implications of conservatives or Christians being the ones who are, being the ones who are

victimized. And she also mentions Natasha at the end of of her post that she believes that the ambiguity in all of this is intended. And I completely agree with that. And that kind of leads to my big problems with these campaigns. One, it misses the point of Jesus. All of these ads miss the point of Jesus. Like, I watch them every year truly wanting to be on board with them, truly feeling like, okay, maybe they'll get it right this year.

Maybe they will get close to it. I'm not looking for someone to like play. an ad that's a 60-second sermon from Jonathan Edwards. I'm not looking for that. I'm not looking for something that is perfect. I'm not looking for someone necessarily to go up there and articulate the Roman road. I don't think that would, or the Romans road, I don't think that would be bad. But I'm looking for something that would lead people to the cross. I'm looking for an accurate depiction of Jesus. I am looking for at least the implication that, hey, all of this brokenness and this messed up stuff that you see inside of yourself out in the world,

there is redemption from that. There is salvation from that. You are not enough. You are insufficient. You're always trying to measure up. You're always trying to find happiness. I mean, wasn't that Tom Brady what he said famously a few years ago? He's got all this stuff in the world that he never feels like it's quite enough. Like all of that that you feel that is not enough. Like there's a reason for that. It's because you are making. God's image, you were made to need a Savior. Like, here's Jesus, and do a website, here's Jesus.com. And like, if you just wanted to do that, if you wanted to leave like a cliffhanger, I would

say, okay, that is better. But the ambiguity, the vagueness, and I think the outright misrepresentation of who Jesus is, is actually very damaging and could possibly push people further away from Jesus. And again, just reaffirm what the world already believes about. Jesus, that he, that he's just like a good guy that cheer leads us and that he was an activist like us, that he was a renegade, that he was an outcast, that he was a sympathizer, that he was a refugee.

It is true that he was some of these things, not all of these things, but he was some of these things, but he is never in any of these ads presented as what he also is, what he very importantly is, which is king, savior, Lord, and God. And I would think that that would be important. If you want to reach people with the gospel, not just tell them how to be happier or to lead a better life, because that's not why Jesus came. But if you wanted to save their souls, if you wanted to soften their hearts for the gospel, you would think that they would, at the very least, try to depict Jesus accurately. And then the second big thing that I have a problem with is that they choose confusion over clarity. I think a lot of people, Christian are not, they're watching it and they're like,

what's the point of this ad? Like, again, I'm looking for the point. I want to love it. I do. I don't want to be a hater. But there's so much vagueness and so much ambiguity that it's not helpful. So like, what's the point of the ad? Is the point that we should love others that look differently than us? Okay, then make it about that. Just say that. But if the ad, is that Christianity is true, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, that we are sinners in need of a Savior, then no one got that. No one got anywhere close to that. If it is just that God loves you and cares for you, which is what a lot of people have argued to me, that that's what it's about. Make it about that. Say that. Say God loves you and cares for you, not he gets you.

It is true that he made us and that he is a high priest that sympathizes with our weaknesses, but that is not the primary focus of who Jesus is. That's not what we see in the Gospels. That's not what we see in his ministry. He is not primarily concerned at all, if at all, with us understanding that he gets us. He is primarily concerned with us understanding who he is, who God the Father is,

and what we need to do in order to be saved. And we don't get anywhere close to that. that and the He gets us ads. My thought is that if you have 30 to 60 seconds of airtime and millions of dollars, share the gospel. The Word of God does not return void. You would never fail by just saying the Word of God. And maybe you say, oh, we can't put Bible verses in there. It can't be explicit. We have to just like hint at it. Then hint at it. I didn't see any hinting of the gospel in any of these ads. What if it was a 60-second depiction of the prodigal son or a shepherd seeking the lost sheep or even if you modernized this, but it was like a modern depiction of a parable

that Jesus told. Like I would be happier with that because again, it would seem to me like we are going in the right direction. But the mentality behind this is a mentality that a lot of Christians suffer from. And that is that Jesus and Christians need help with PR. That the reason that Christians aren't liked, the reason that Jesus is misunderstood is because of bad, legalistic, phariseical Christians who care too much about sin and are just too mean. But the truth is Christianity doesn't have a PR problem. The world has always hated Jesus. And because of that, the world has always hated Christians. Matthew 1022 says, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. John 316 says that God so loved the world, and that was actually, you saw that on a hat in the ad.

But then after that, a few verses later, John 319 says this, the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works are evil. Yes, we should be the aroma of Christ. We should lead people to the cross. We should be as persuasive as we possibly can through our lives, through our words, absolutely. But just reaffirming and validating what nonbelievers already think about this powerless Jesus, I don't think is leaving people there. Now, my hope and my prayer is that someone would be led to.

Christ through this, through imperfect means. We have been entrusted with the gospel, which means we are always going to be imperfect vessels of God's message of salvation. And I have heard stories. Some of you have told me, like, your non-Christian friend, your lukewarm friend, their interest was piqued by these ads. They went on to the website and they read about them or, you know, they read about He Kits Us or they chatted with someone and they heard the real gospel. And I praise God for that. And I pray for that. And I hope that that is successful. But if that is successful, if people hear the gospel and become saved through this, it will be not because of the failings of He gets us, the theological shortcomings of He gets us, but despite them, and because God is good. And he's going to save who he wants to save

even through imperfect means. And so I pray that. And coincidentally, that is also my prayer for this new like White House faith office that Donald Trump has established and is being spearheaded by heretical teacher Paula White. So I'll get into some of that in just a second. We're kind of closing in on time, but I'll try to be as thorough as I can on my thoughts on her. But let me pause and tell you about our third sponsor for the day. And that is my Patriot Supply. They're a company that sells emergency preparedness and survival gear. They've got all different kinds of products. But today I want to tell you about their mega three month emergency food kit. This is not your typical survival food. Each kit provides more than 250,000, 500 calories daily for 90 days. They've got delicious

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creating the White House faith office led by Pastor Paula White, who is so amazing. Okay, so they've been friends for a long time. This doesn't really surprise me. I will tell their story and like how they first met and all of that. But she has been in his life for a very long time. And she has been his faith advisor for a long time. And I posted in 2019. I didn't know that I posted this. But I said Paula White is a whole. horrifyingly false teacher who peddles the damning prosperity gospel. Mr. President, please hit me up if you'd like some better suggestions. And so I said it then. And the only reason I remember this is because I started getting notifications for people like liking this. But this is still true.

Now, I don't expect for Trump to think the same things that we do about Paula White. I do think Paula White is a conservative. I think she's been a big supporter of President Trump. I'm sure she has said things that are true. and I am sure that he feels like a lot of, um, uh, just a lot of loyalty to her because they've known each other for so long as she's been such a big part of his administrations. But we do need to just be very clear on who she is. Again, this can be one of those things where we are praying for her. We're praying for President Trump.

We pray for the White House faith office and whatever they're going to accomplish. I'm not completely sure on what the agenda is. We can pray that God would use imperfect means and imperfect people to accomplish his will because we already see that he's doing that through President Trump. And so that's my hope and prayer in the White House faith office. I pray that there would be solid Christians in it. And I pray that good, righteous things would be accomplished on behalf of the country, on behalf of God's people.

Yes and amen. So again, not a hater. I think we just need to be really clear, according to the standards of God's word, who Paula White is, who her background is. and what kind of leadership we can probably expect from her. So who is Paula White-Cain and how did she get connected with Trump? She is a televangelist. She is what's known as a prosperity gospel.

And I will explain more of what that means. And I'll give you some examples of that. But health and wealth in general, that means this is like TBJ because this is Joel Osteen, people who make you believe that if you do something for God, then he will do something for you in return. And if you keep these precepts, then he will work. reward you with financial compensation, material wealth, and health. And there's typically some kind of tie of the charismatic movement into this, the belief that basically you are entitled to as a Christian access to perfect health and to financial success. She says that she received a vision

when she was around 18, that she was going to preach the gospel to the world. She has been married three times from what we understand from reporting at the time. She had an affair with her first husband with a pastor at the church that they were attending. She ended up getting married to him and then she divorced him in 2007. We don't really know all the reasons for that. And she married Jonathan Kane. He was a member of the band Journey, writer of their iconic song, Don't Stop Believe in, which is pretty cool, whatever else you think about him. She got into evangelism and televangelism in 2000. So she had already kind of like started her ministry as a co-pastor, I believe, with her second husband.

But then in 2000, she was invited by a prosperity preacher, TD Jakes, to preach at one of the conferences. And however, you went viral back in 2000. That's kind of what happened with her talk then. She's very articulate. She is very charismatic and just like the personality sense. and she's a very good, powerful speaker. So I understand her popularity from that perspective. White has described TD Jakes as her spiritual father.

She reportedly sent him a black convertible Bentley for his 50th birthday in 2007. Okay. She was also, like, we won't get into all of this, but she made a lot of money as like a co-paster with her second husband. She made a lot of money through her televangelism, through the TV shows that she had. She had a TV show with BET. Okay? In 2001, is that interesting?

With BETT where she made a lot of money from that. So I guess that's how she got the money to reportedly send TD Jakes event for his 50th birthday. So just a little bit about TD Jakes because this tells us who Paula White is. And T.D. Jakes, again, is apparently her spiritual father. He is a popular megachurch pastor in Dallas, Texas. I think that you've probably heard his name floating around with some rappers. I'll leave it there because we don't know how much is actually true, but there's a lot about the kind of life that he has lived out there. But I'll kind of focus on his teaching. So he has said,

for example, prosperity is a mindset. Whatever you say to yourself is what will manifest. Okay, that's New Age nonsense. That's not Christianity. God already has a plan and a purpose for your life, but it is up to you to believe in his plan. He also has said, if you obey God, you will never be broke another day in your life, which, of course, is not necessarily true. I mean, if you just look at the lives of the apostles, if you think about all of the Christians that exist around the world, in Yemen, in China, in North Korea, they don't have money. Are they just not believing in God for their financial wealth? Is that way they haven't gotten a promotion at the slave factory where they're working? in those countries? Like, that is not a biblical principle. In fact, we are promised by Jesus that in this

world, you will have trouble, but take heart for I have overcome the world. Not take heart, but if you have enough faith, I will give you lots of money. So it's not only a very like America-centric gospel that someone like TD Jakes is preaching. It's just not true. It is a false gospel. It is for itching ears. It is not for people who want to take up their cross and follow Christ. Money is not bad. Wealth may very well come into your life. And there are principles that you can follow that I do think lend themselves to success and financial responsibility and prosperity. Absolutely. I think the proverbs really give us kind of like a roadmap to that in some ways, but they are principles. They're not promises. We are not promised health and wealth in this life

because we live in this broken world, and we can look forward to perfect peace and perfection in all ways in future glory, not here in this life. So in the early 2000s, when she was preaching on TV, Trump saw her preaching on television, called her out of the blue, says, you have the it factor, and they've remained close over the years. She has served as a personal spiritual advisor to Trump.

Even back in 2011 when he was contemplating, contemplating running as president, like she was a part of that, praying for him, advising, advising him. She has had some financial investigation, some financial sketchiness over the years, according to the gospel coalition. However, in 2016, despite the fact that she used her various ministries and her church to reportedly rake in millions of dollars, and despite some of the sermons that she has given about the guarantee of financial prosperity. She claims that she is not a prosperity preacher.

Christianity, the Christian Post said, you've been described as a gospel preacher. What are your thoughts? And she says all the right things. She says, I believe in Jesus. I believe in the unarrow word of God. I've been accused of believing the prosperity gospel. I don't preach it. She said, I am always talking about overcoming your struggles and the lessons God teaches us in valleys, he allows us to enter. However, if you look just on her website, just like right now, you can see key doctrines of the heretical prosperity gospel. And it's this idea that Christians give in order to gain material payback or compensation from God. So for example, on her website, 2025 is a year of fruitfulness, blessing, and abundance for you. It all begins with God's first

fruits. Are you ready to go to the next level in your finance? Are you ready to be able to do the next level ministry? Do you have next level dreams that require financial favor and acceleration? When we honor God with our first fruits, we will unlock the things for the remainder of the year. And in faith, 2025 will be a year of fruitfulness, blessing, and abundance for you. I declare fruitfulness abundance and favor over you right now. And here, by the way, here are your first fruits. Donate here.

Link. Donate. to me, give me your money. And that's your first fruit. And then God will unlock blessings for you. She posted this on X, January 2024. When we honor God with our first fruits, he will unlock everything for the remainder of the year. Your 2024 will be a year of God's power and authority. The truth is that God doesn't owe us. He doesn't promise financial compensation for our generosity. In fact, it's not really generosity at all when we do it to. receive something in return. 2 Corinthians 9.7 says, don't give under compulsion, but be a cheerful

giver. And when you go back a couple of verses, you do see this idea of sewing and reaping, sewing and generosity and reaping. But he's not talking about paying a millionaire your hardened money. He is talking about generosity to the church, taking care of persecuted Christians, taking care of ministers to the gospel. Okay, let's go through some of some examples of the false teaching. There is one from 2023 where she tells the Jerusalem Post that we should not be evangelizing to Jews. She says, I do not want to convert Jews or send them to live in Israel for the rapture. The plan for salvation for the Jews is gods.

And so actually, this is not just her. there are many people probably consider dispensationalists who believe that you should not evangelize to Jewish people. But again, that is not biblical. For example, when we read Romans 9, 2 through 5, Paul says he has great sorrow and unceasing anguish in his heart, sorry, for he wishes that he could cut himself off from Christ for the sake of his brothers. He means the Jewish people. They are Israelites, and to them belong all of these things, the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law. they don't have Christ. And so without that, we do not have salvation. Whether you are a Jew or a Gentile, the only way, the only truth, the only life is through Jesus Christ. Jesus himself makes

that very clear in John 14.6. She also repeats this idea of seed money, this idea that you pay some money and then you'll get all of this stuff back. Here, SOT 16. Now, I won't, you and there's someone that God is speaking to to click on that donation button by minimizing the screen and when you do to sow $1,144 it's not often I ask very specifically but God has instructed me and I want you to hear this isn't for everyone but this is for someone when you sow that $1,144 based on John chapter 11 verse 44 I believe for resurrection life say pastor Paul I just don't have that then And so $144. I don't have that.

So $44. But stand on John chapter 11 verse 44. I mean, that's just, I mean, I'm sorry, it's just evil. It's just evil to solicit donations and to say that God is going to do something if someone continues to pay her money. I truly believe that that is wicked, that there will be punishment for that. All right. Last bit is her connection to the new apostolic.

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she is the apostolic overseer of her church, so she oversees the pastors there, and she apparently is kind of a part of this new apostolic reformation, which is this movement

that kind of emphasizes experience over scripture, mysticism, over doctrine, modern day apostles over the plain text of the Bible. That's kind of what I'm gathering. She is promoting and pushing, which is why I would probably put her in this NAR camp. According to the new apostolic thinking, mankind lost its dominion over the earth as part of the fall of Adam. And so it's our job to try to get it back through all of these different means, declaring, manifesting, all of that. And like, financial success plays a role in that. following the 2020 election and Biden's apparent victory over Trump,

Paula White preached a sermon in which she called for victory and for angelic reinforcement from Africa and South America to intervene in the spiritual battle for the election. And also she claims that this is a sermon from Paula White that she preached in 2020. She claims that her spirit ascended to heaven where God gave her a distinct mantle. So here's SOT 18. My spirit went up and I literally went to the throne room of God. And as God begin, he put a mantle on me. And it was a very distinct mantle.

I had no idea that apostle had prophesied. I think you said that there was a mantle that was coming upon me, that there was a new mantle coming upon me. And there was a mantle and I saw it very distinctly. The color was like a, a goldish, but it was a yellowish goldish, a little bit different than your scarf, a little bit brighter than your scarf there.

And then I saw the earth for a moment, and then he brought me back and he put me in certain places, one being the White House, one within certain continents. I don't know, that description of the goldish, the yellowish, goldish, the goldish, the goldish, the goldish yellow like your scarf. I don't know, that just really got me. That's really funny. Um, okay, she also distorts the communion.

This is really sad. Sot 19. During that time, the Holy Spirit gave me an answer. He said, take communion. When you take the Euchar's, thank you, Lord. It's as if Jesus Christ has just been crucified, buried, and rose again. For your ministry gift of $100 or more tonight, we will also rush you this beautiful sterling silver communion set,

complete with two cups and a serving plate. All in a sip up carrying case. To take anywhere with you. Oh my gosh. Okay, so a lot of people distort Jesus turning over the tables in the temple. And they say, you know, that's a reason to get mad about anything or to show outreach about anything. But this is really what he was talking about. He said that you have made my house a din of robbers.

And this is very similar to that. She is using the Eucharist to make money, to make money. She has a lot of, she has a lot of different moments like this. She says, when we're at the right place at the right time, God gives us the ability to see into our future. She said this in February of this year, I don't have time to play all of these clips because we've already gone over so long. She also has some strange sexual moments from stage with her husband.

There is one sermon that she gave a few years ago with her now husband where she is anointing his feet. And she's telling the story of the woman of the night anointing Jesus' feet with oil, which is a very beautiful story about faith. And she makes it really weird and sexual. And she's like very weirdly, strangely, centrally kissing her. her husband's feet as she is trying to tell that story. And then there's also this. And this is not missing context.

I've listened to the whole context. This is 2015. Paula White and her now husband. Her husband is suggesting that on stage at church, two Christians, that men and women should watch porn together. Here's dot 22. Ladies, if you don't know what he likes, you know, figure it out. Get a book.

Go get to porn. Do something. He likes to watch porn, watch porn with him. Later, she kind of goes on to correct him and say, oh, we're not advocating for that. That's not something we do. Don't get addicted to it. But like, you know, educate yourself.

So as far as I know, she hasn't repented of that. Maybe that's not something she would say anymore. And so there's a lot more. I'm much, I mean, yes, I'm concerned about like the personal choices that she has made in her life seemingly unrepentantly when we're talking about adultery and divorce. but also just her teaching. And my heart really breaks. My heart really breaks for people who have been duped by the prosperity gospel,

who have given their hard-earned dollars to people who are just trying to line their pockets and who are praying upon people's vulnerability, whether it's their sickness, whether it's their poverty, or whether it is their, like, goalability to get rich. And, I mean, truly, there is punishment for that. There is eternal punishment for that. And we actually read in the book of James that teachers are actually judged more harshly than everyone else. And so I want Paula White to repent and become a Christian. That's what I want. Because if she still believes this, then she doesn't believe in the real Jesus.

She doesn't believe in the gospel of Christ. I want that for her. And again, I want this White House Office of Faith to be successful. I want it to champion the true gospel. I want it to carry the cause of true Christianity. I think that's great. And I know it's probably all different kinds of faith, and I'm not sure what those initiatives might look like. And I know that God can use imperfect people to bring them to himself, and I pray for that.

But this is troubling. And I can celebrate Trump's many, many, many victories that he has accomplished just over the past couple of weeks. I can praise God for that and still be really good. clear that this person in leadership is not a good thing. All right, that's all we've got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow.