Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1191 | Shane & Shane on Finding Faith in a Bar & Singing the Psalms

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

In today's very exciting episode, we sit down with Shane & Shane, a Christian contemporary music duo, to hear their testimonies of how they came to faith, despite not being raised in Christian homes or growing up as Christians. They also tell us about how they started making worship music together, starting with simply singing the Psalms. We also talk about the power of worship music and its ability to bring us from despair into the joy of the Lord. And Shane & Shane treat us to a brief worship session and devotional, so be sure to stick around until the very end! Text DEVO to 682-318-3835 to receive the Worship Initiative devotional every day! Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for tickets now! Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://a.co/d/4COtBxy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (01:09) Shane & Shane introduction (08:42) Testimonies  (16:29) Starting making worship music (25:57) Leading Godly families (29:18) Worship Initiative (37:28) Worship and devotional --- Today's Sponsors: We Heart Nutrition — Get 20% off women's vitamins with We Heart Nutrition, and get your first bottle of their new supplement, Wholesome Balance; use code ALLIE at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.WeHeartNutrition.com⁠⁠⁠. Shopify — Shopify is the commerse platform behind millions of businesses around the world. Get started with your own design studio to turn your big business idea into profit. Go to shopify.com/allie to sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling with Shopify today! CrowdHealth — get your first 3 months for just $99/month. Use promo code 'ALLIE' when you sign up at JoinCrowdHealth.com. --- Related Episodes: Ep 149 | Worship Music https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-149-worship-music/id1359249098?i=1000446698428 Ep 1083 | Maverick City Music: Christlike or Compromised? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1083-maverick-city-music-christlike-or-compromised/id1359249098?i=1000673212591 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://alliebethstuckey.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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such an honor. I've been listening to y'all forever. Come on. Yeah. Y'all are awesome. It's an honor to be on. Well, thank you. Thanks for having us. Okay, so I would guess that the vast majority of people listening to are watching this are very familiar with y'all, have worshipped alongside y'all's music for a long time. But for those who don't know your story and how you guys started out, was it something where y'all were looking for someone with the same name? And you're like, as soon as I find this person, I'm going to form a band. That was on the application. Yeah, it was. Okay.

Got it. Got it. I didn't know that's an origin story. He actually changed his name to Shane. No, he didn't. Oh, yeah. No, just kidding. No, fake news.

We were business majors at Texas A&M University. No business doing anything like this, like anything artsy. Neither one of us grew up in a Christian home or a singing home. And I came to Christ in high school, just very out of the blue. The Lord got me in West Texas. And I learned GCD and E minor on a guitar. I had, my dad had an old prop guitar. It wasn't like a guitar that you play.

It's like they had it like on top of the cupboards. Oh. Kind of next to the stuff, Rattlesnake. Yeah, his family is a prop family. It was just a lot of props. They like props. Yeah. And I took that thing down and I had my youth pastor, just a tiny little youth group,

like 30 kids teach me these four chords. And so I was off to the races. It wasn't my thing, but I could play 20 worship songs. And I took those 20 worship songs, you know, into college. And every Saturday night we would get together and sing and pray, open God's Word. And my roommates at Texas A&M, my junior year, they talked me into doing this outdoor festival. They're like, we need a two in the afternoon slot. You're going to do it.

And I was terrified. Wow. Terrified. My guitar didn't plug in, never written a song, never sang into a microphone. And, you know, and so anyway, I went down the street and borrowed a guitar that did plug in from a guy named Shane. Yep. And actually, he was like, my name, Shine. Just like that.

And I was like, shine. Shine and shine. Anyway, so I borrowed his guitar, played this concert. It was horrible. But the... It was horrible. It was horrible. It was horrible.

Really? It was, or do you just feel that way? It was... It was... If we would watch... If we would have watched it now, we probably would have said, oh, man, those guys don't have. My girls point in my face and laugh. And when I show them that early stuff. Okay.

You still have videos of this. Oh, man. It's so bad. The Lord's just got a sense of humor. I mean, like, he can use whoever he wants to do whatever he wants to do, you know. Okay. So it wasn't an instant spark of like, wow, this is just perfect. And our voices just go together.

No, we didn't even sing together at that event. He bought my guitar. Oh, okay, got it. And then I wasn't even a believer at the time. And then two weeks later, pretty much, I mean, almost, I probably say, yeah, maybe two weeks. I was in a, I was in this little bar band in college. And I ended up at two in the morning waiting on a check. The lights came on in this bar.

And if anybody's ever been in a bar when the neon's on versus when the fluorescence come on, it's a different view. and that image I had kind of grown up around my grandfather was a deacon at church, sent me to camp every year. So I got saved at camp every year, never stuck. But then in college, when the lights came on in this bar, like I didn't hear the audible voice of God, but the Lord called me home. And that was like the beginning of my walk. I ended up getting up the next morning going to this little church called Central Baptist Church and Brian, Texas, where We were both at A&M, and I didn't even know what the pastor talked about. I just knew because I'd grown up around the Baptist faith that you had to walk down front and fill out a car to be saved.

You know, that's just what you had to do. You know, you walk up front. Which you don't, by the way. You don't have to do that. But like at the time, at the time, if you grew up Baptist, you know what I'm talking about. But I was just like, so I don't know what he talked about, but I walked up front. And that was the beginning of my journey. And I was talking to the pastor.

he said, what do you do? I was like, well, I've been singing this bar band, but I'm not going to do that anymore. And he's like, you know, you want to sing in the choir? So that night I went, get saved, that night I go and I rehearse with the old choir peeps at Central Baptist Church. And that's where my buddies and I saw him singing in this choir. It's like everybody knew the words but him, but he was super, super pumped about it.

Yeah. So we like walked up to him afterward, you know, because we had met. And it's like, hey, man. you need a couple buddies. You want some friends, buddy? You just up here? You come over? And he did.

And he jumped in the car pretty much around that season. And we were just in a little GM, 1988, GMC, Jimmy, just driving around singing these horrible songs. Well, after his concert, people started calling him. So he played this show, which he said was horrible. And people were like, hey, he's. hey, can you come, you know, lead for this and that and this and that. And so within a couple months, he had dropped out of school to go play these shows for a plate of lasagna and gas money. And that's, and he was like, you want to go get in the car with me?

So I'll hop to the car with him. And I hadn't got out yet. Yeah. So here we are, 27 years, 25, something like that years later. Yeah. Still still doing it. quick pause from that awesome conversation to tell you about our first sponsor for the day. That's WeHeart Nutrition. You know I love WeHeart Nutrition. They have been a game changer,

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Were you plugged into a church? You said something about your youth group leader. Like, when did you hear the gospel and believe it? So I was on my buddy Zach's roof, his mom's roof, playing football at night. That's a combo. That's a West Texas thing. Don't recommend it. But this particular night like the moon wasn't there. So it's just West Texas

stars lighting up the sky, you know. And I don't even remember the details, but something happened in me. Looking back on it, we sing Psalm 8 pretty often and I feel like I had this Psalm 8 moment where it's like

the one who put the stars in their place with his fingertips who am I that you would be mindful of me? Could there be a real God and could he be mindful of me? And it was very like I said vague

because I didn't have any language and I didn't grow up around the gospel. And so I started to sneak out on Wednesday nights back in the day when you could tell mom and dad you're going to be gone for six hours and nobody cared, you know, before cell phones. And I would sneak out to this little youth group. And I heard the gospel and it wrecked him. I've never been able to recover from that. Would your parents have disapproved if they knew you were going to church? Well, my mom was from a long line of Catholic families. And so, like, I knew that if I told her that I was going to, like, a Spivell Church youth group that I think she would have, she might not have let me.

So I didn't want to, I didn't want to risk it. Within a couple of years, she was, like, coming, you know, my brother had, I had just one older brother. He came to Christ. And then my mom started to come. She came to Christ. And then 15 years later, my John. un-wain dad at age 66 gave his life to Christ. Wow.

And I got to baptize my mom and dad. He died right after that suddenly. But it was just, yeah, God just had a plan to capture our hearts. Yeah. I think it's interesting that for you, you were on the roof. It was dark except for the light of the stars. And for you, it was dark. And then the lights turned on in a very different setting.

But on the inside. And so, you know, in two different ways, God, like that light and darkness and both of your testimonies. And you felt like it was kind of a moment too. What was it about the lights turning on in the bar that made you kind of come to your senses? You know, my grandfather was a, he was a deacon at a Baptist church and my, he kind of ruled with an iron fist a little bit. And so my dad was, he was kind of like, I'm not into this. And so my family kind of would try to, I think, when I was growing up,

would try to appease my grandfather. And so I would go to camp. I would do disciple now. We would go up there on Wednesday nights and eat. And so there was like a little bit. So I had heard the gospel a lot, you know. And so I knew the stories. And I feel like I was probably like that seed.

that fell in the rocky soil. And so there would have been like a few weeks of like, man, I've tasted a little bit of what it means to like. So I'd like something about the Lord had enticed me in seasons because of, I think, just proximity. But it never took root. It never took root. So it was like two weeks later, I'm back to the old ways, you know.

And then, you know, I'm at, I'm at school. and I'm doing internships and I'm like I'm pursuing the world as hard as you can pursue the world. Like I mean, you know, going to do corporate real estate, going to do these things, really pursuing career and everything and trying to, you know, check all the boxes to do the things, to get the stuff, you know. And I was in this band and we were, you know, for a college band on a college campus. We were having a lot of fun, you know, and I think I was finally at the end of like, if this is all the world has, it's not working for me. And it kind of culminated in an evening on the end of the stage waiting to get paid. You know, we got a portion of tip share.

I was in Colleen, Texas. Fort Hood is there. And we were throwing a party for all the troops at this. It was like an indoor outdoor. like sand volleyball court and then a club inside and so it's kind of in and out and people were bathing suits and there's a lot of consumption and sweat so like the the inside when they turned the fluorescence on was very rough so I mean sand and just and the walls were not nigh I mean everything about it I mean it was just bad and so they turn the lights on and like the Lord just used that picture to just say

man this look familiar to you right you know and so i i just was like this is me this is me i feel like i look good under the neon but when the light when i'm exposed and so i think the lord just really was gracious to me to say to to say there's more and i felt like he said son it's time to come home that's what i felt in my heart and so that was the beginning wow that was the beginning and just like shane said i didn't have language for that really. But I just knew that I was like, I want to follow Jesus. Yeah. I don't know what that means, but I want to because like I'm tired enough.

Yeah. And so that's, that was, that's the beginning of the journey. Yeah. Wow. That's a good metaphor for sin in general. Like Satan uses darkness to make sin look really good. Yeah. And then when God is gracious to turn the lights on, you're like, this is really bad.

Yeah. This is really gross. Yeah. Yeah. Gosh, that's such a good picture. Okay, y'all, make sure that. you've got your tickets for Share the Arrows, October 11th in Dallas, Texas. Share the Arrows is brought to you by our friends at Go to Ranchers.

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Like, yeah. 90. So that, that, all of those things were happening in 97. Mm-hmm. Okay. And then Shane had done a record with another guy, not on purpose, just, they just were just there. Yeah. Caleb.

And this guy was like, I got our studio in my basement. So they went over there in one day and made this little thing. And then Shane did a record in 98, caught Rocks Won't Cry. And he said, and I, we had become really good friends. kind of started hanging out a lot and I got on one of the road with him and and just all kinds of there's so many stories that around that but but then he's like you want to sing on a few of these songs and I said sure I sang I sang on the songs and then we started singing them and it's just like Shane's coming and Shane's coming yeah so that's how Shane and Shane happened yeah that wasn't

intentional like ooh we got this is kind of catchy that didn't happen and then and then it was just like what are we supposed to sing and like It's just like, I think they used to sing the Psalms. So we started singing psalms. Yeah. Both of us were so green. I mean, you know, we were semi-new in our faith and really didn't have any grid for music or Christian music or songwriting. So like as life started to smack us in the face, we just started to sing God's word.

And it started to work like in our own heart. And then God started to use that in other people's lives too. And so singing is word It has been a common denominator in our In our music just because it's been so helpful Yeah In our own personal life, in our family's lives It's been sweet

Well, it's been helpful to me too And my producer actually, I think it's okay for me to say this She was saying how a lot of y'all's songs Just singing the Psalms has helped her memorize The Psalms that that is actually how they're in their head And it makes so much sense because So much, I mean, whether it's the Pledge of Allegiance or whether it is like the, like different parts of speech.

Like I can say a lot of those in song because that's how we learned them. And so it makes sense that we are commanded to do the to sing the Psalms and the hymns and the spiritual songs because that is how God's word kind of nestles itself into our heart. And we still remember it decades and decades later. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me a little bit more about what the journey has been like in contemporary Christian music. y'all are so unique in that you do have songs that are played on the radio that people just like to listen to, but it is really mostly worship.

And as you said, it really is explicitly based on the Word of God. And how has that, what has it been like to kind of navigate that industry over the past 25 plus years? Yeah, I don't know, from really early on, we were so disconnected to the industry because we were just these two college dropouts who had some music and we were selling it out of the back of our car. People were calling us to come sing these songs. People were burning records Napster hit. So there was a way to get music.

And so we started to kind of go out of our region and we would go to other states and people would know these songs. but we were like, how do you know these songs? Because we weren't on the radio. We weren't in any stores. And so just the power of technology started to kind of give us a place to go and a platform to sing God's Word. Which now, it's, you mean, it's very similar to your Spotify and iTunes and Amazon and YouTube and all of that. Back then, that was illegal.

Yeah. You know? But especially in the college world, it was rampant. So like music spread like wildfire. And we just did our thing. So we just started the record we did together at first. It came out of a really hard season, like a desert season. And it was just singing the Psalms because I wasn't even making a record when I was writing those.

I wasn't writing for a record. I was just crying out to God, revive me for your namesake. Revive me for your namesake. And when that season was over, it was like, I moved to Dallas and we record those Psalms. And we call it Shane and Shane. Psalms. Psalms. Did you lose your accent somewhere along the way?

Shane still has his accent. Because whenever you are talking about 90s and early 2000, Shane and you'll have a West Texas accent. But I don't hear it as much anymore. Maybe we've... If this guy gets around his family, man, he goes there. I do. I do. I kind of adopt any accent that I'm around. Okay. So if we talk you to Australia right now, that's impressive. That would probably start doing it. It's people get embarrassed, went to go to restaurants with me.

Yeah, because it's a little inappropriate. Yeah. Yep. But I don't even mean to do it. You just, it just happens. It starts to happen. It's weird. It's weird. But we, you know, I mean, being around the industry, I mean, we signed a record deal in 2001 and, you know, but things didn't really change. We didn't move to Nashville. We kind of stayed in Dallas and we kind of did our thing. We were, we'd lived on the road probably unhealthily for a really long time, a couple hundred shows, 250 shows, a couple years and just like lived on the road just going, going and doing. And I think, you know, we both grew up pretty blue collar.

And so we didn't have like the artist. We never had an artist mentality. Yeah. It just wasn't in us. And I don't even know if it is still today. I think we're probably pretty practical guys, you know. But we love the Word of God. We think it's alive.

It's active. It speaks. It speaks today. And we feel like, man, it's in the Lord has given us an operative. an opportunity to set the table for people, to love his word. For both of us, it's funny because music has never been a passion. It was sort of like something that was a surprise. But Jesus, from those early years, has been our passion, the gospel, the good news,

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It's real. I know. And I love it so much. And so I just want to get y'all's advice on how you started, how you and your wives started family devotionals and family discipleship time. Like what does that look like in y'all's homes? And if you have any advice for Christian parents out there, especially of little ones, what would you tell them?

Go ahead. A couple things come to mind. One, three things come to mind quickly. First, I think the Lord has used our failures more than our successes. in the moments that we can humble ourselves and ask for forgiveness, like model brokenness, model a need for Jesus. Like, Daddy needs Jesus. It's not just you.

Like, this is for me. And the Lord's really used that. I can just see that. Another thing for me, I'm the nighttime dad. You know, my wife, she's the morning mom. And so I've done tuck-ins over the years. and there was a moment years ago where I got convicted by the Holy Spirit to formalize tuck-in times instead of like I'm beat, I'm tired, I've been through the day, let's just get this over with

so I can be with Beth and watch something or hang out or, you know, instead of having that mindset of like really formalizing that moment. I'm walking up these stairs asking the Holy Spirit for his leadership as I sit with these girls for 30 minutes. And just that one little decision made a big impact because he would answer. And lots of conversations, songs, scripture, that has been really neat. Thirdly, this year we pulled out of all school. systems and we're the awkward homeschool family now, which one of the cool things about that is it's given us the opportunity to do family devotions in the mornings to where last, it used to be like

so early, everybody's just getting ready and we got to get everybody to three different places and it was nuts. And so now, you know, every weekday, we're just, we read, we've read through a couple books in the Bible and really dialogue. around the table about what that is. And then we'll sing a song and pray together. And it's been really, really sweet just to have that moment in our day that's available. I can see God really using that. I love that.

So good. I love that you all called it full-time women's ministry too. Girl parents are so good. Full-time women's ministry. That's what we do. I love that. Yeah. Every day.

Yeah, man. That's so good. Okay, tell me about the new. devotional worship initiative that you all have that people can listen to every day, right? Yes. Okay, tell me about it. So, you know, we've made songs for years and years that have been distributed and I think people have been encouraged by.

But I think there's something to something different about the rhythm and consistency of of doing something every day. And so we decided to turn the mic on and just sit around a table and say, Lord, would you use these scriptures and our voice to try to connect the head and the heart? You know? And just to say, everybody has been given a voice. And Jane says that every. every day.

It's just like he's given you a unique voice, the way that it sounds, the way that it's made to glorify the Lord. And there's something, like, even, even he would say that, like, when he became a Christian, it's like he kind of sang his way into believing some of these truths that we say. 100%. You know, it's like there's something that happens that's not just cerebral when there's a humbling effect of lifting your voice to the Lord. It really is a neutralizer of a lot of things.

And so I've seen that as I've done the Devo. And I'm going to tell one quick story about the Devo. Yeah. And so, you know, a lot of people would say, might say, singing's not for me. Singing's not my thing. They might go to church. They might sit in a pew or sit in a chair. And they would see people like maybe raising their hands or closing their eyes.

or singing loudly or enjoying it. And they would sit kind of in the back and they would be like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to press through this to get to the important thing, which is the sharing of God's Word or something like that. And there's a story that there's a guy came up to me who our kids go to school together. My daughter was in a little program with his

and he pulls me aside. And he said, man, I've been doing this divo that you guys have and he said that exact same thing he's like i've been going to church my whole life and and when people were singing i just thought it wasn't for me i have a horrible voice i'm embarrassed by my voice i don't think i can hold a tune but i've been getting by myself and i've been singing with you guys in the morning and those that rhythm the lord began to change his heart change his heart and i think it's by degrees but after a couple weeks i mean he started to telling me this he starts and he starts crying and he's just like the lord's given me a voice to sing to him

that's so beautiful and like Shane says it it's just like it's it's a means of grace that the Lord has given us to like connect our emotions inside of of what his word says and sometimes it just takes that to just to open our mouth and sing yes as an act of faith and and that's so good and he's been responding and he's using this tool to and people are responding to it and the Lord is responding with some I mean the stories are just it's endless yeah and I think it's

it's like duh you know like Colossians 316 says may the word of Christ dwell richly in you as you sing Psalms hymns and spiritual songs you said that earlier with gratefulness to God in your heart

like the word of Christ begins to dwell richly in you it's like a promise of God's word when we sing you know and it's kind of like of course you know how many times during during singing during a song in church or in my car with my girls have I have I been really stepped into faith like I didn't believe that like if I'm being honest like I feel like God you are low grade disappointed with me always and then then in a song, I'm admonished and I'm taught and I'm like, oh my goodness, all that disappointment went on the cross. All of that shame went on the cross. And like over and over again, like singing has

literally stepping off this dark place into faith. And largely God's used the grace of singing to do that. So we're just inviting people in of like, come on and let's just try it. Again, like formalize it a little bit, not just like Spotify's on in the background. We all know that. We all know that kind of, you know, worship music is playing in my house often and different than that. Like let's set aside 12 minutes and let's just ask the Lord to speak and then get into the word and then sing it and see what happens over time. It's been wonderful. Wonderful. That is so good. So where can people subscribe? They're sold now.

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Come on. Here we are. We have a special guest. We do. Allie Beth Stucky is going to just sit in with us today. Yeah. She doesn't think she has a voice, but I think by the end of this, she's going to be like, Oh, my God is giving me a voice.

Okay. We'll see. It'll have to be the Holy Spirit. We'll see about that. We'll see. And if you're joining us for the first time, we do this every day. We come to remember and experience what is true through singing God's Word through song in Scripture. And so welcome. So grateful to have you sing with us virtually. But what a joy it is to lift our voice to him. And so we're just going to pray for you around this little table. Father, would you allow? Your word, the Word of Christ to dwell richly in our brothers and sisters today as we come before you in song in Jesus' name. And brother, sister, would you just take a second and ask the Holy Spirit to speak to you as we sing and pray and read God's word today? We'll sing this little chorus together. I'm fighting a battle.

You've already won. I'm fighting a battle. that you've already won. No matter what comes my... I will... I don't know what you're doing, but I know what you've done. And I'm fighting a battle.

You've already... I think that language is common language to a lot of people where we say, Lord, if I'm being... honest, I have no idea what you're doing. I just got the diagnosis. I just got the report. There's bad news everywhere. We're all living in this world of brokenness. And so it's like, Lord, what are you doing? I don't know what you're doing. In the same breath, we say, Lord, I don't know what you're doing, but I do know what you've done for me on the cross.

when you paid for my sins and you died so that I don't have to die. So I'm super confused on what you're doing, but I know what you've done for me. And I believe that I'm fighting a battle that you've already won on Calvary, where you accomplished everything for me, that you conquered sin and death on my behalf. And so I can stand there. And not only that, because of God's word, we know how the story ends.

That's right. And can I just tell you, spoiler report, if you have a moment to read the last two chapters of the Bible, it goes really well. It goes super well. Like if you are listening and you have simply received the free gift of God's love for you in his son, Jesus Christ, who was laid down for you, for your sins. If you've received that free gift, can I just say your future is super bright. It's so bright. It couldn't be brighter. I mean, I'm not even talking about like Monday or a week from Monday or a year from Monday or a day.

That might be really, good chance. That's all going to be really hard. But we can stand. That's right. Like you're going to be okay because we're standing on the finish. finished work of Jesus and the future grace of Jesus when he comes and makes all things new and we can stand secure. Your future doesn't depend on you. It depends on him and our faith in him. Like he's done the heavy lifting and we just get to trust and walk in that. And so it's a blessing. It's a blessing. Yeah.

It's amazing. Yeah. Gosh. It's the best news ever. It is. It is. I have so many thoughts about that. And so many other text, dying means losing. Like we hear, you know, someone lost their battle to cancer or the side in a war that has the most deaths, that side loses. But in Christianity, death is victory. Not only personally, but to live as Christ, to die is gain. So actually, when someone dies, that's a victorious moment for them, even when it's sad for us. But also in the spiritual sense, dying to ourselves is actually winning. And also, Jesus's death was actually a victory. So that's just another way that Christianity kind of turns the worldly economy and

worldly philosophies on its head that dying is not losing. Yeah. Isn't it? Wow, that's completely upside down. The upside down kingdom. And gosh, we put all of our hope in his finished work where he died for us. And so we can live, like you said, like gosh. that is the cornerstone of our life.

Like we can face tomorrow because he conquered death and he lives. And we can walk into tomorrow and it's going to be okay. We don't have to worry or depend on our own ability to make it through because he made it. He did it. He's going to carry us through. So it's good. Can we sing it together? Let's sing it, man.

Let's just start. There's peace that outless. Outless. There's peace that outless. Darkness. That's it. That's the words. You wrote it.

All right. The lyrics are there for you. There's peace that outlast darkness. There's hope that's in the blood. There's future grace that's mine today that Jesus Christ has won. so I can face tomorrow or tomorrow's in your hand all I need

you will provide just like you always today and when it's gone I know you are my your spirit makes my eyes on Jesus Christ, I'll say that it is well.

You're my Savior, my defense. I have to be afraid anymore. No more fear in life or death. Out and about today, pray for their hearts that you would comfort them with the finished work of Jesus, that your Holy Spirit would point to Jesus. and all that he accomplished there. And also what he's going to accomplish. When very soon, he's going to come make all things new.

When every tier will be made purposeful. And so would you comfort our friends today? They're not fighting alone. In fact, they're fighting a battle that's been won on the cross for them. And I ask this in no ordinary name. But the name that's above every name, In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.