Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1199 | The Georgia Mom on Life Support: What’s Really Happening

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Starting point is 00:02:29 especially as we enter what some people call Pride Month, but what I call Noah covenant month, if you need to be reminded of the truth of biblical marriage and what it actually means and why it matters to our Christian theology and to our worldview, and yes, even to our politics. And please go back and watch or listen to yesterday's episode. Today we will be getting into news stories. A lot of you have been asking me to comment on the story of the Georgia mom, who is on life support, who is pregnant. And so we will be debunking a lot of the narratives that you have seen and giving my best attempt at pro-lis

Starting point is 00:03:08 pro-Mago day analysis of that situation. But first, we need to talk about the Colorado terror attack that tragically happened over the weekend. On Sunday, June 1st in Boulder, Colorado, definitely a progressive stronghold there. Muhammad Sabri Solomon, a 45-year-old Egyptian National committed a violent attack on a pro-Israel group advocating for the release of Israeli hostages. The FBI is investigating the incident as a targeted terror attack. Those are the exact word that the FBI used. Solomon, who was illegally in the United States after overstaying his visa, set eight people on fire with 12 total injured. This seems to be a pattern with the people who are pro-Hamas and anti-Israel. No matter what side of the issue that you're on, I think that we can all

Starting point is 00:04:06 agree that any kind of Middle Eastern conflict has many layers and is very complex. And I have given my general position on Israel versus Palestine many times and have talked about this with guests who are really experts on this many times. But also we realize as Christians that we want no innocent people to die. We care about the children. We care about the lives lost anywhere, no matter if it's in Israel or if it's in Gaza, but a pattern that you see over and over again is that those that are pro-Hamas and anti-Israel in the United States seem to have a greater tendency towards extremism and violence. I just haven't seen this kind of radicalism and terrorism and violence coming from the Jewish people here in the United States

Starting point is 00:05:03 or from the most ardent pro-Israel Zionists in the United States. There have been lots of demonstrations, lots of protests by the pro-Palestinian, free Palestine people here in the United States. And I have yet to see any Jewish instigated terrorism against those people. But I have seen over and over again, for example, Jewish students on their campus being run into the library. where they have to take refuge from the radical pro-Palestine demonstrators there. And so there just seems to be a pattern. Certainly this pattern is very prevalent within progressivism in general because when politics is your God or when anything other than the God of Scripture

Starting point is 00:05:52 is your God, you are going to be lost and your moral compass is going to be off and you are more easily radicalized in an extremely violent way. And so that is surely what happened here. And plus, Islam in general is just like, it's a violent religion. That doesn't mean that everyone who is Muslim is going to commit violence. But there is a reason why almost every single terrorist regime in the world is Islamic. That's not like, oh, that's just a coincidence. I don't know how that happened.

Starting point is 00:06:27 It is the ideology that drives me. them. It is inherently violent. So again, lots of patterns here, lots of commonalities that we should just be able to call out no matter what you think about the specific Israel-Gaza conflict going on right now. So Solomon allegedly used a makeshift flame thrower made from a garden sprayer filled with gasoline and through Molotov cocktails while shouting free Palestine and in Zionists. Why is it that with progressives, freedom and liberation always means terrible violence. This was during this pro-Israel event on Pearl Street in Boulder, and here the guy is after the attack, saw one.

Starting point is 00:07:14 What's the police? What's coming? What's coming? What we can't do when he's got Molotov cocktails. If you are fighting, you have to get right here. He's got right here. You're not one. Okay. So I know he might look just like your standard white guy from here, but he's not. He might have kind of like light skin. But he's not. As I said, he's an Egyptian national. He apparently is Muslim. He is fighting on behalf of the Islamic cause. And we know that radical Muslims around the world, it's not just that they believe that Palestine is their land. It's not that they believe that there is an apartheid going on. It's not that they believe. It's not that they believe.

Starting point is 00:07:55 believe that the Palestinians are being oppressed by Israel, if they really cared about Muslim oppression, then they would stop oppressing Muslims. Muslims are most oppressed by other Muslims and Muslims that are in charge, Muslim authorities, much more than they are oppressed by Israel or any Jew, but Muslim ideology, again, it has within it intertwined within it a hatred for the Jewish people, also a hatred for Christians, but really there seems to be a more, a passionate hatred toward the Jews in much of Muslim ideology. And so that is part of what's going on here. Court documents show that he told the FBI after his arrest that he had been planning the attack for a year. Huh. Like just, I guess was missed. The FBI didn't see him, didn't know. As for his motive,

Starting point is 00:08:45 he said he wanted to kill all Zionist people and wish they were all dead. Huh. He also said that he would do it again. Let's talk about the victim. because their lives really matter. Eight victims aged 52 to 88 were hospitalized for burns with one in critical condition. Four victims received minor injuries. They endured minor injuries. No deaths were reported as of this morning, Tuesday, June 3rd. One victim was an 88-year-old Holocaust survivor, according to Rabbi Israel Wilhelm,

Starting point is 00:09:21 the Shabad director at the University of Colorado Boulder. her name has not yet been identified. And obviously it's tragic when any person is victimized. But when you're talking about someone who survived the Holocaust, who saw her relatives survive the Holocaust still this many decades later and during that kind of violent Jew hate, it's really sad. The pro-Israel group called Run for Their Lives is a grassroots organization, which was holding a weekly gathering to call for the release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas.

Starting point is 00:09:58 Like let us not forget how this conflict started. That Hamas decided that they were going to paraglide into a music festival and kill and torment and kidnap and rape innocent Israelis. Okay. That's how this started. And then they took hostages, including babies, over to their side. and starved and killed them. Okay? And so when we're talking about what Israel has done and the violence they have inflicted, I say this is someone who wants no child to die, who wants no baby to die, no innocent person to die. But when we look at what Israel is doing, they are doing this in response

Starting point is 00:10:43 to what happened on October 7th, all right? Let us not forget that. Let us not forget that there are still hostages being held by Hamas and the majority of the Palestinians actually support Hamas. I think it's also important to remember that. All right. We've got more details on the story. But let me pause and tell you about our first sponsor. And that is Seven Weeks Coffee. I had my seven weeks coffee this morning.

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Starting point is 00:12:20 Additional charges for using incendiary devices with potential penalties. of life in prison. FBI deputy director, Dan Bongino, described the attack as, quote, ideologically motivated violence with ongoing investigations to confirm motives and connections. Boulder Police Chief Stephen Redfern was hesitant at first to call the event a terrorist attack. At first they were saying, oh, we don't know the motive behind it. That's what they always do. The FBI is already calling it a targeted terror attack. Would you also refer to it as a terror attack and this was a journalist asking him a question at a press conference and he said we're not going to call it a terrorist attack at this point again it's too early to speculate motive i mean the guy

Starting point is 00:13:03 literally said i hate zionis and i wish they were dead and by the way i'll also do this again and the police are like no idea no idea maybe he was just having a bad day redfarn also said i cannot confirm right now that this was targeted at a specific group of people okay redfarn was promoted to the position of Boulder Police Chief in September 2024 after serving as deputy chief since 2021, pledging to, quote, make policing equitable and effective in its core mission. And the translation we learned in 2020 means that you are going to arrest fewer immigrants, fewer Hispanic people, fewer black people, fewer people who call themselves transgender, et cetera, those that you might call a progressive might call oppressed or marginalized and try to arrest more white people.

Starting point is 00:13:52 That's what equitable means, being soft on crime. Red Farn is also openly gay and married to a man. The department unveiled a pride badge in June of 2024 because that's what's important when you are enforcing the law. And the reason why that's relevant is because it is possible that this person is just a diversity hire. Obviously, this police department is ideologically motivated. It doesn't surprise me that this person would want to say that this is, illegal alien that this person who is pro-free Palestine that, oh, we just don't know the motive. This is probably just a one-off. FBI deputy director Dan Bojino explained on X why the FBI immediately said that they were investigating the attack as terrorism before the local police did. When the evidence passed to our FBI leadership team from an active crime scene includes clearly ideologically motivated statements, video multiple witness accounts, we will investigate those incidents as targeted acts of terror. If the investigation turns a different direction, despite the evidence, we can make adjustments. We are not the Federal Bureau of Word Games.

Starting point is 00:15:04 Solomon was granted work authorization in the United States in March 2023 by the Biden administration, despite his expired visa status. So again, being soft on crime, being soft on immigration has consequences. Policy has consequences. Whom we elect. has consequences. When you elect people that are soft on crime who are pro open borders, who think that it's actually positive for our country to allow people to stay here who should never be here in the first place, who are radical Islamists and who are here illegally, then you will pay the consequences of that. Biden will never pay the consequences of that. Those who worked for him, who are part of the elite class and who live in gated communities and

Starting point is 00:15:51 who pay extra not to have to live next to riffraff, they will never pay the consequences of that. But regular working people will have to pay the consequences of the bad and irresponsible virtue signaling policy decisions that politicians make. Policy matters because politics matter. No, politics matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people and people matter. Illegal aliens have to go. They all have to go back. It doesn't matter if they are now some kind of radical extremists like this. Doesn't matter if they've committed a violent crime. They have no right to be here.

Starting point is 00:16:29 And if we are a country, then we have to have borders. If we don't have borders, then we're not a country. Then you are not a citizen. Then no one has rights that can be afforded, especially to citizens. And there's no right of our government or law enforcement to be able to protect us. And no responsibility either. They all have to go back. That is a righteous decision. That is a good decision. If you're confused about that, please just read my immigration chapter in toxic empathy. We go through all of the stories, the competing data, the competing anecdotes. That is probably the chapter that people need to read the most right now because you've got a lot of people who are using that toxic empathy to emotionally manipulate you into believing that the biblical position is to believe that a country shouldn't have borders.

Starting point is 00:17:19 God is a god of order. He places us in a garden, not in a jungle. He does not want chaos for people because we flourish when order exists. Stephen Miller seems to understand this a lot, especially when it comes to immigration. He says a terror attack was committed in Boulder, Colorado by an illegal alien. He was granted a tourist visa by the Biden administration. And then he illegally overstayed that visa. In response, the Biden administration gave him a work permit. Suicidal migration must be fully reversed. He's absolutely right. Suicidal migration is the result of toxic empathy. Scott Jennings, who is kind of like the Republican guy on CNN, said, what more do we need to see before we acknowledge this free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization? We are in a fight for the future of Western civilization and we need to come to grips with it and fast. Jake Tapper on CNN, he kind of started rambling about like right-wing anti-Semitism in response to the Boulder, Colorado terror attack, which had nothing to do with right-wing anti-Semitism. Antisemitism obviously is a big problem on the left, he said. It's also a big problem on the right. I want to be clear, I'm not doing what aboutism, but it's actually like exactly what you are doing. Here's that too. It is also a problem on the right. I mean, in addition to the Tree of Life, synagogue killing in Pittsburgh, which is obviously homicidal, there's been reporting recently that the Pentagon Press Secretary, Kingsley Wilson, has a history of social media posts pushing anti-Semitic tropes, extremist theories. The problem right now that we're seeing in terms of violence is on the left. I want to make it clear. I'm not what about ising. I'm not doing what aboutism. Okay, but like that's what you did. You might not have said the words, what about, but you're a smart guy, Jake Tapper.

Starting point is 00:19:16 That's exactly what you were doing right there. MSNBC contributor, Tom Winter, said there's an individual who is taken into custody. He's a white male. Okay, so three. Okay, to be fair, the guy did look like a white male. I will say that. Like, he did look like that, but I would be surprised if MSNBC ever. corrected their reporting and said that he's an illegal alien. And you will see people say,

Starting point is 00:19:55 well, it's irrelevant because people who are citizens commit these kind of crimes all the time. It's not irrelevant because every crime that is committed by an illegal alien is preventable, unlike crimes that are committed by citizens. Okay. And people who say, well, citizens actually commit more crimes that illegal aliens. You don't know that. I don't know that. No one knows that. If they are by definition undocumented, then there's really no way to know how many of them are committing crimes. And by the way, every single one of them is a criminal because it is a crime to cross the border illegally. There was this awful story out of Texas where at Lake Travis, this young woman who was about to enter the Air Force, she was run over while she was kayaking

Starting point is 00:20:36 by an illegal alien from Venezuela to illegal aliens who are on a sea do ran into her, saw that they ran into her. She died. And they sped away. And thankfully they were arrested. They're going to be deported and all of that. But that woman would be alive if we had had administrations that were enforcing immigration policy and were protecting our border. Just because we have criminals, we have murderers that are citizens, doesn't mean we need to add to the crimes committed by citizens by importing a bunch of new people that will also commit crimes. Every crime that is committed by an illegal alien is preventable. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people on TikTok who are celebrating this.

Starting point is 00:21:24 We don't know who these people are. There's always going to be crazy people on either side of an issue or either side of the political aisle who are anonymous online saying crazy things. But I think it's worth noting that you do see people saying not all heroes wear capes. And the survivor of the Holocaust, this person is referencing, thought he escaped after all of these years. Congratulations, someone said. We failed to wipe them out. Is Saul's time for attacking us coming from the sea? What a hero, someone says. Someone says hero with the Palestinian flag. Give this man a Nobel Prize. And so it's just really unfortunate that the people who say that they are

Starting point is 00:22:04 anti-oppression, they're anti-violence, they just care so much about the children in Gaza. It's really not about that for a lot of people. Not saying everyone, but for a lot of people on that side, they really just don't like Jews and they really just don't like Israel. And we just need to understand that. We need to be clear about that. All right. We've got to get into our other stories, but let me pause and tell you about share of the arrows brought to you by our friends at Carly Jean, Los Angeles. I know a lot of you missed out last year and you got FOMO. Don't have FOMO. We've got CGLLA making our merch again this year. It is even better than last years. And last year's was amazing. Chief Relaterbro can tell you I wear my share of the

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Starting point is 00:23:39 because I have talked about it a little bit on Instagram, but I'm glad that I waited to fully talk about it on the show because there are so many different layers and details to this story that have been revealed. And I wanted to make sure that I got it right. This is the story of the woman who is on life support and who has a baby that is growing inside her womb. And because of Georgia law,

Starting point is 00:24:04 the doctors cannot take her off of life support. And they are actually going to deliver this child. And of course, you've got pro-choicers, pro-abortion advocates saying this is so awful. This is using this woman as a lifeless incubator. And they should have just, you know, let her off life support, let the baby die. You've even got some of her family members. It seems saying, oh, we should have a choice. And you've got a lot of pro-life and pro-choicers, pro-abortionists, going back and forth.

Starting point is 00:24:31 But you've got some people on the pro-life side saying, okay, this is not as clear cut as some pro-lifers are making it out to be. And I have said, of course, we should give this baby a chance at life. And I actually thought that this whole situation was being made possible by Georgia pro-life law, anti-abortion law. I was wrong about that. It actually has nothing to do with the Georgia abortion law. And that's exactly what the left wants you to think, what pro-abortionists wants you to think, that this is because of some draconian archaic pro-life law in Georgia and that this has to do with the overtrainative Roevy Weight. No, that's not what this is. about it all. This is actually because of a law that was passed a while ago that was supported by a lot of progressives at the time. So let's get into it. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll back up and give you the details of this story. Adriana Smith is a 30-year-old nurse and mother from Atlanta, Georgia. She was declared brain dead on February 19th, 2025, after suffering severe blood clots to her brain's tragic situation, which caused irreversible neurological damage. At the time, Smith was approximately nine.

Starting point is 00:25:38 weeks pregnant with her second child. Amory University Hospital where Smith is being treated has decided to maintain her life, to preserve her life, to keep her on life support, to allow the baby to develop until it reaches viability. He reaches viability. I'm pretty sure it's a baby boy. Projected to be around 32 weeks of gestation based on medical assessments, a C-section, based on medical assessments. A C-section is scheduled for all. August of 2025. Smith's family, including her mother, April, claims that they were informed by doctors that George's abortion law required maintaining life support, stripping them of medical decision-making rights, and they described the situation as emotionally torturous and financially

Starting point is 00:26:26 burdensome. In an interview with 11 Alive, published May 19th, New Kirk said that they had named this new baby boy chance and that he is doing better than the last time I met with the doctors. He has his toes, arms, limbs, everything is forming. We're just hoping he makes it. So there's been some conflicting stories. On the one hand, we hear that Adriana's mom, April, has told reporters, I'm angry that we didn't get a choice. We want to be able to have a choice, whether or not we can end this pregnancy and take her off life support. But at the same time, we also see these reports of April saying, no, like we want our baby boy to be able to live. I want my grandchild. to be okay. And it could be that she has expressed both of these sentiments. New Kirk, April,

Starting point is 00:27:16 did express frustration about not having to say, but saying we didn't have a choice or say about it. We want the baby. That's a part of my daughter, but the decision should have been left to us, not the state. The family started to go fund me and they've raised a lot of money. Adriana also has a seven-year-old son and other family that is very sad, understandably, and broken over this situation. Right now, the baby is about 24 weeks gestation. According to doctors, has shown signs of potential health complications, including fluid accumulation on the brain. Of course, it makes sense because the baby's health does correspond to the health of his mother. Women aren't just incubators, and this is obviously going to present potential complications for this child.

Starting point is 00:28:11 Adriana's family is claiming that Emory Health Care, the hospital, is maintaining life support due to Georgia's abortion law, which is known as the Life Act, that prohibits abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, typically around six weeks gestation with limited exceptions. Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr's office released a statement on May 19th, clarifying that the hospital, is not required by this pro-life law, by the life law, to maintain life support for a brain-dead patient to keep her child alive. Removing life support is not an action with the purpose of terminating a pregnancy. And remember, when we were talking about all of the propaganda, about the Dobbs decision, especially before the last election, we went through the state legislation that prevents abortions, and we looked at the fact that these laws very specifically define what counts as an illegal abortion. It's not removing an ectopic pregnancy. It is not a

Starting point is 00:29:08 DNC after a woman miscarries her baby. It is the purposeful ending of a child's life. And so the Georgia Attorney General is saying, no, this is not prohibited. To take her off life support is not prohibited under our pro-life law. That is not the law that's at play here. And thankfully, our friends at life action have fact-checked this and have told us what is actually in play here. So the title of this article is fact check is a pro-life law forcing a brain dead pregnant woman to stay on life support. So we'll go through that in just a second. Let me pause and tell you about Good Ranchers. Y'all, this is a great Father's Day present for the Relator Bro in your life, whether it's your dad or your husband. They want all American meat from

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Starting point is 00:31:00 reasonable likelihood cause the death of an unborn child. So that very clear and specific definition is right there for the doctors at the hospital, for anyone in Georgia, for any activist in the world to read on their own. So anyone who says it's the fault of the pro-life law that these doctors are allowing women to die or allowing women to stay on life support to keep their child alive. It's not the law's fault. It might be the lawyer's fault. It might be the hospital administration's fault. It might be the doctor's fault. It might be you, activist's fault. But it is not actually the law's fault. If you have a specific suggestion for what should be added to the law, I think you can make that suggestion. I've seen many pro-lifers doing that because we want clarity. We don't want women to

Starting point is 00:31:43 die. We know that the life of the mother is just as important as the life of the child. There's only one side that wants a person to die in this whole thing, and it's the pro-abortion side. removing Smith, this woman from life supports his live action, does not fit the Life Act's definition of abortion, an act done with the purpose of terminating a woman's pregnancy to cause the pre-born child's death. However, there is a law that does apply Georgia's law regarding life support, the Georgia Advanced Directive for Healthcare Act, that has been in effect since 2007, 15 years prior to Georgia's Life Act. That is what is more likely at play here. So Georgia Code 31, 32, 9 from 2007, states that doctors can't withdraw life support from pregnant patients unless both, one, the fetus is not viable. And two, the patient had an advanced directive explicitly stating she wanted withdrawal of

Starting point is 00:32:43 life-sustaining measures. So here's what it says prior to affecting a withholding or withdrawal of. of life-sustaining measures or the withholding or withdrawal of the provision of nourishment or hydration from a declarant pursuant to the declarant's directions in an advanced directive for health care, the attending physician. Okay. So this is a lot of legal and medical language. I basically already summarized that in this case, says live action, when Smith was first

Starting point is 00:33:09 put on life support, her baby was not old enough to have been able to survive a premature birth. But this baby is now 21 weeks and babies born at this gestational age have survived. in some cases with medical intervention. His chances of survival will increase in 95% if he is allowed to remain in the womb until 32 weeks. My question is when the law says, when this law that, again, was enacted in 2007 with even support of Georgia Democrats at the time, when it says if the fetus is not viable, then you can withdraw life-sustaining support from this woman, from this patient. What exactly does viability mean? because typically in the medical world, viability means about 24 weeks gestation.

Starting point is 00:33:51 Even though there are babies who are born and survive before that, even 21 weeks, I think the youngest is 19 weeks. Typically, it's 24 weeks gestation is the gestational age of viability that a lot of doctors estimate. And so if that is the case that I'm not really sure why these doctors felt that they had to keep her on life support when she was only nine weeks pregnant. Does viability at that point mean that the baby doesn't have any known fetal fatal anomalies? I'm just not totally sure what law is being referenced, what legal specifications are being referenced by these doctors when they say that she has to be kept alive. Also, maybe she had some directive that we don't know about.

Starting point is 00:34:44 But here is how NPR and other left-wing media outlets are portraying this. This is probably how you've seen it on Instagram. NPR, a brain-dead woman's pregnancy raises questions about Georgia's abortion law, the guardian. Fetus of Brain Dead Georgia woman kept alive due to abortion ban is growing, says family. OK. USA Today, a brain-dead pregnant Georgia woman is a horror story. It's Republicans' fault.

Starting point is 00:35:14 Fox 5 Atlanta lawmakers clash over care of pregnant brain dead Georgia woman. And then they go on to again blame the pro-life law. X users are outraged. We've got someone who says Adriana Smith is brain dead. Her family can't say goodbye because the state demands her corpse remain alive for a fetus. By the way, there are a lot of medical questions and a lot of debate in the medical community about brain dead. And what that actually means is that even a medically accurate term. You've got other pro-aborts saying Georgia's keeping a brain dead woman alive without giving her family say so because she's pregnant.

Starting point is 00:35:56 And on and on. You've probably seen a lot of people say that this is like the handmaid's tale that she's just being used as some kind of objectified incubator. And in a way, like her womb is incubating this child. She is incubating this growing baby. But this baby is a human being. This baby is alive. This baby is made in the image of God. And while we absolutely mourn this situation, we want this woman to be alive.

Starting point is 00:36:27 We are also thankful for the technology that allows this baby not to die. Now, not everyone on the pro-life side sees it that way. And I would never question the sincerity of the pro-life side. of some of the people who disagree with me on the ethics of this, like Dr. Abby Johnson, whom we've had on before, she says this. She says, I know I'm the odd man out in this Georgia situation where a woman is being essentially used as an incubator to keep a child alive. She was pronounced brain dead when her unborn child was nine weeks along. She is being kept artificially alive for now over 11 weeks in order to continue the pregnancy. She says, I have a huge ethical problem with this. Death is natural,

Starting point is 00:37:09 keeping people alive by dehumanizing the mother into the form of an incubator is, in my opinion, unethical and dehumanizing women are made to have babies, are not made to have babies even if they are dead. Obviously, she knows that women are made to have babies in general, but she's saying when they're dead. She said natural death is okay. Life and death are two places in medicine where we've just gone too far. We've got Charlie Kirk who says a woman in Georgia is being kept on life support so that the child she is carrying can come to term and be born. I was asked about this case while in Britain. Apparently, people thousands of miles away are scandalized this is happening.

Starting point is 00:37:46 I'll admit, Charlie says, that I'm completely baffled as to what the controversy is here. Literally, none of the arguments typically offered by pro-abortion advocates apply here. There's no threat to the mother's life for health. There is no threat to her personal autonomy. There is no threat to her of any kind. It is literally impossible to harm her. The only person facing any kind of potential harm is her unborn child. In one situation, two people definitely die.

Starting point is 00:38:08 in the other situation, a child may be able to live. Saving lives is a good thing. This is only controversial if you actually view killing unborn children is a good thing and want more dead children for its own sake. So I am on that side. That is where I am. That if we have the opportunity to preserve one life, to save the innocent life of this child, then we should.

Starting point is 00:38:32 That's not true in every situation where the mother who is pregnant died. but in this case there's an opportunity to save this child. And I would think that her family would want this, that the father of this child would want this, and that the mother would want this. Yes, I would absolutely sacrifice my body so that my child could live. And so that is my perspective,

Starting point is 00:38:57 my perspective on this situation. And so, again, a lot of propaganda from the pro-abortion side who simply just believes that unborn babies aren't real people and shouldn't have a right to life. So you shouldn't be listening to them at all about anything when it comes to this. All right. One more story to cover today. And this has to do with something going on reportedly in the Trump administration that is very troubling to me as a Christian.

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Starting point is 00:40:43 This story is about a man named Floyd Brown, who started the outlet, the Western Journal. He is a conservative commentator and author. He was recently, according to him, fired from his position of Vice President of Development at the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts. So this is a performing art center that is partially funded by the taxpayer. It's in Washington, D.C. It features theater, dance, musical performance. as well as educational and outreach programs.

Starting point is 00:41:15 He says that he was fired on May 28th after being contacted by CNN asking for his comments regarding past statements that he has made about the quote homosexual influence in the GOP. He says that he was fired by Rick Grinnell, the current interim president of the Kennedy Center who is openly gay. He is in a homosexual quote unquote marriage. He also professes to be a Christian himself. So here are some of the things that he said about homosexuality in the past in a 2011 column on his website.

Starting point is 00:41:49 He wrote no clear words than William F. Buckley's express our own sentiment towards homosexuality. It is a sin and the addict is to be pitied and accepted in Christian love, but not the pusher or promoter of the agenda. On a conservative talk radio program in 2023, Brown state of homosexuality is a punishment that comes upon a nation that is rejecting God. They're debasing themselves and they're humanity. like this is the position of many, many Christians, by the way. This is the position that the Bible articulates.

Starting point is 00:42:16 Floyd says that he sent this to CNN after they requested the comments. He says, it's an honor to work at the Kennedy Center. Comments rooted in my personal Christian views, which I have made in the past, have no impact upon my work here at the Kennedy Center, nor do they impinge on my interactions with colleagues who do incredible work for the patrons of the center. As a Christian, I am called to work with others of different beliefs and worldview. he's honored to work for Rick Rinell and Donald Trump

Starting point is 00:42:43 and that he is united with them in their mission to bring wholesome entertainment showcasing the best of performing arts and music to America. He said it was truly not my intention to offend anyone with my comments. I've never intended to attack or demean any person in my statements. I've always shared the mission of Jesus striving to love others unconditionally. Personally, I think this is too much to give to CNN in a statement. we're talking to CNN. I don't think I would have talked that much. You've got to be so careful. So then, after he was fired, he says, I was fired yesterday by Rick Grnell from the John F.

Starting point is 00:43:18 Kennedy Center for the performing arts. One month ago, I was recruited to join the Kennedy Center as vice president. My firing came approximately two hours after CNN sent an email asking me to comment on my past writings about the homosexual influence in the GOP. He says, Floyd Brown says, I ask for an explanation of my dismissal, and I asked to speak to Rick Renal, both of those requests have been ignored. The only explanation is the one given to me at the time of my firing. Floyd, you must recant your belief in traditional marriage and your past statements on the topic, or you will be fired. Needless to say, I refuse to recant and was shown the door. My beliefs are much more common to biblical Christianity. My only conclusion is Rick Cornell was intimidated by a CNN

Starting point is 00:44:01 story, which hasn't been aired or published, so he preemptively fired me for my Christian beliefs on marriage. Okay, so I haven't seen any statement from Rick Cornell about this. So we cannot confirm or deny whether this is true. But it does seem that CNN is taking credit for the firing of Floyd. They ran a story about Floyd's firing on Thursday, May 29th, calling him a, quote, far-red activist with a history of anti-gay comments. They did admit that they had reached out to him for comment regarding an investigation, but didn't say what the investigation was about. CNN did cast doubt on a part of Floyd's post saying that a source familiar with the Kennedy Center confirmed to CNN that Brown is no longer working there and said that Grinnell had not met with Brown

Starting point is 00:44:49 did not know him and was not involved in his hiring. Despite Floyd's claims that he had met Grinnell previously during his time as a political organizer in Arizona and that Grinnell was involved in his firing. So it seems to me like this is Floyd's interpretation of what happened. I don't know for sure if his interpretation is correct. but Rick Grinnell was involved in an election in the election of Dr. Oz and Kathy Bennett and he shared, I don't know if he made, but he shared videos that were completely doctored and decontextualized things that Kathy Bennett had said about BLM, made it seem like she was

Starting point is 00:45:28 saying things about BLM that were positive when actually she was saying the opposite. So I have seen what I think is very dishonest behavior from him. I don't know how involved he was in the hiring and firing of this person. But as a Christian conservative who shares these principles about the definition of biblical marriage with someone like Floyd Brown, this is a troubling report. And I hope that we find out what is actually true. And I just want to say if you are a Christian who holds fast to the natural and biblical definition of marriage, and if you work for the Trump administration, do not allow this

Starting point is 00:46:03 to intimidate you share the arrows and make sure that you are. are standing strong because there are a lot of you in the Trump administration. There are a lot of you in the executive branch. There are a lot of you out there who voted for Donald Trump. And what you believe is not only right, but it also matters. So don't be intimidated by this. Go back. Listen to yesterday's episode. You'll get a lot of encouragement. All right, before we close out, let me just remind you to sign up for a Blaze TV. They've got this explosive documentary out that looks at what really happened in Minneapolis during the George Floyd riots, the dereliction of duty, the allowing of the overturning of law in order thanks to Governor Tim Walls and even some parts of law enforcement there. We've got police officers who are going on the record anonymously talking about the corruption that led to the violence and the loss of life in the wake of the George Floyd incident.

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