Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1263 | My 'Feminist' Speech Controversy: A Biblical Response

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Allie dismantles “feminist” smears on X over her Turning Point LSU speech, boldly affirming women’s biblical roles: prioritizing home, submitting in marriage, serving in church, and speaking truth publicly. Scripture, not culture, defines womanhood. She also lifts up Angel City FC's Elizabeth Eddy in her fight for women’s sports and keeping trans ideology off the soccer field. Join us to reject judgment, embrace God’s design, and live with fearless faith in every sphere. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (03:10) Turning Point USA Speech (13:15) Most Common Criticisms (17:40) Mislabeled as a "Feminist" (24:40) Jubilee Debate Performance (29:55) Biblical Response (40:10) Power of Self-Control (51:20) Encouragement to Women (1:00:00) Elizabeth Eddy --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and subscribe to any of their boxes (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) to get free Waygu burgers, hot dogs, bacon, or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use code ALLIE at checkout. Jase Medical — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jase.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and enter code “ALLIE” at checkout for a discount on your order. Pre-Born — Will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Preborn.com/ALLIE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Fellowship Home Loans — Fellowship Home Loans is a mortgage lending company that offers home financing solutions while integrating Christian values such as honesty, integrity, and stewardship. Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get up to $500 credit towards closing costs when you finance with Fellowship Home Loans. Constitution Wealth Management — Let's discover what faithful stewardship looks like in your life. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠Constitutionwealth.com/Allie⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a free consultation. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 1260 | Charlie Kirk’s Replacement & Jen Hatmaker’s Shocking Paganism https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000734097800 Ep 1254 | Jubilee Reaction: How to Debate 20 Liberal Christians https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000732041086 Ep 1236 | Mom of 10 on How to Order Your Day & Raise Godly Kids | Abbie Halberstadt https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1236-mom-of-10-on-how-to-order-your-day-raise/id1359249098?i=1000724064460 Ep 796 | Former Lesbian Activist Calls “Soft” Christians to Repentance | Guest: Rosaria Butterfield https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-796-former-lesbian-activist-calls-soft-christians/id1359249098?i=1000610921016 --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://alliebethstuckey.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠

A clip from one of my speeches went viral on X and ignited quite the controversy and argument about what women's role is, not only in the body of Christ, but also in society as a whole. So we'll talk about all of that today. Also, it is time to share the arrows. We've got a professional soccer player who is speaking out in defense of women and girls. She's getting trashed for it, but not here. We are standing up for her and all women who are speaking up for. for what is good, right, and true.

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I'm recording this on Tuesday before the results of Election Day. And so I can't give my commentary on the results of the New York City election or the Virginia election of a feeling that the New York City election did not go a happy way and we'll see about Virginia and if the people there had any sense not to elect someone who endorsed a guy who supports murdering his political enemies and their children. So I can't cast a vision on that one yet. I'll have more commentary, I'm sure, on social media today. We are going to be talking about a theological topic and that is women in the church and really women in the world. So let me set up why.

we are talking about this today. And it has to do with a controversy that I would call a pretty manufactured controversy. And we're going to talk about this to understand the context of why we're discussing this topic. But it's really not about this. I hope that this really offers you, yes, clarity, but more than anything courage. And not only as a Christian woman, but also just in general. This is about not being swayed by people's opinions. whether they are positive or negative. This is about running the race that has been marked out for you by the God who created you and who has filled you with His Holy Spirit and staying steadfast on that path,

no matter what the chatter is of the people around you. So let me set up what is going on. And if you listen to Monday's episode, you heard me talk about this a little bit, and you might have heard me reference being a bit discouraged on Instagram. and I've got the best audience in the world. You guys rushed to pray for me and to edify me. And there were so many notes sent and messages sent that just reminded me, not only of how amazing you guys are in the audience that has been built here at Relatable,

but also just the truth of God's Word and truly just the best community ever. But let me tell you a little bit more about this, that has lasted over days on X. So there is a segment of males on the right, presumably the political right, who also profess to be Christians, who have been expressing their utter indignation that I gave a speech at a Turning Point USA campus stop and that in that speech, I talked about the dangers of pornography. And maybe some of you guys have seen this clip. It was well received on Instagram. Instagram is like the last bastion of sanity on social media. It got a million views and men and women who follow me on Instagram were in agreement with

what I said. But on X, it wasn't received that way. Instead, I was called a feminist. I was called a bad mom, a negligent wife who was trying to act like a man. I was told that I should only talk to women or that I should not talk at all, that women have no place in the public square. These are not just, well, they are kind of random accounts, but they're not just accounts with 30 followers. I'm talking about accounts with followings. They're largely anonymous, but they are part of what I would call a growing segment of online commentary. And one day, for those of you, my sweet audience members, a lot of whom are not on X and are just not super online. I am going to like draw out a map. I don't know. I'm going to like put up a whiteboard

or maybe I'll draw it out and we'll make a graphic of all of these different segments of the internet, all of the different segments of the right, because I do think there's a lot of confusion. There's like weird crossover with different Israel views. It's all strangely interconnected. And if you're not super inundated in that, which you shouldn't be, then it might be a little bit confusing to try to figure out who these people actually are. This kind of criticism is not exactly new. It's newer in that it's kind of been prevalent over the past couple years or so. It comes and goes every few months. But this is a big shift from how it used to be. A lot of these people are in the Reformed Theology camp. I'm in the Reformed Theology camp. A lot of them are,

you know, who they would call trad Catholics. And so it's a lot of like, a reformed Presbyterian and Baptist people and a lot of Catholics and a lot of people who just, I mean, by the fruit of what they say are not Christians by any definition, but what they kind of like, I don't know, the Christian aesthetic or the Christian ethos or the authority that they think Christianity gives them. And so they kind of use it as a cudgel against people. And this is certainly changed, I think, in the past few years on the side of conservatism. So as I said last week, I spoke at Turning Point last Monday. This, of course, was supposed to be Charlie's campus tour.

He was supposed to be at LSU. He would have done a fantastic job. And he had texted me in August asking if I could join him on November 3rd in Alabama at a campus. And I was excited to do that. But of course, that didn't pan out. And so when Turning Point asked if I would instead come to Louisiana State University, I was honored to do that. And in order to honor Charlie, my speech reflected five of the most controversial truth that Charlie taught.

The first one and the longest one was that feminism has failed women. Feminism has failed women. It has encouraged things like promiscuity, abortion, putting all of your energy into professions, into plants, into pets, into politics, instead of people. And I emphasize that all women in one way or another are called to mother. Here is the clip of me making that argument. Women, you were given this unique capacity to create and then sustain life. And for so long, feminism has told us that this is an obstacle, that this actually inhibits

our fulfillment, but actually it is a vehicle of fulfillment. And we have to start seeing motherhood and being a wife as the high callings that they are. We have to honor these roles as the high callings that they are. But here's what I want to say, because God doesn't always promise to give any of us exactly what we want. What I want to say to you, women, that even if you are not a wife or a mom, maybe you will never be a wife or a mom, maybe that's not the road that God has for you, that you are still called. to mother. You are still called to mother, and here's what I mean by that, that every single woman has this amazing, incredible ability to cultivate and to beautify and to nurture and to grow, and that energy is not supposed to be channeled into your profession, into politics, into plants, or to

pets. All of those things are meant to be channeled into people. So even if you are not yet a mother, even if motherhood is not in your future channel all of those unique and womanly capabilities and skills that you have into people into children into young women lead Bible studies volunteer at church see how you can serve them see how you can teach them see how you can love them see how you can become even a spiritual mother to the next generation And then the third truth is that merit Trump's DEI. The fourth is that America is a Christian nation. And the fifth and most important is that Jesus is the only way to heaven.

But the second was that porn has weakened men. This is something that Charlie said a lot. And I wanted to make this appeal, yes, to honor Charlie's message and mission, but also from a feminine perspective. Here's not 12. Porn has weakened men. And you know, Charlie, Charlie was so good at talking about this

and so good at talking so courageously and sternly and clearly to the young men. Here's what we know about porn and why it is so detrimental, not only to men, although it disproportionately affects men. Porn objectifies women and children. It commercializes sex, which is a gift from God for a married couple between one man and one woman, and it glorifies violence. It creates addiction and children.

shame. It destroys marriages. It ruins your perception of other people. It is the legal loophole for sex trafficking. It is evil in every way. And it will destroy your life. And this is what I would want to say to men, and I hope that you hear it from strong men in your life, that men, we need you. And we need your masculinity, and we need your strength, and we need your boldness, and we need your courage, and we need those things to be harnessed for good. We need you. We need you to be solid pastors. We need you to be strong leaders. We need your voice. We need you to bravely stand up for the most vulnerable, to stand up for women and children and for the unborn, to raise a respectful ruckus for the things that matter. We need really strong men. And porn makes you weak.

Can you believe that feminist? I can't believe that she said we need men. How dare she? All right. We'll get into the online reaction. My response to it. in just a second. Let me pause, tell you about our first sponsor for the day, and that is pre-born. Y'all, when you donate to pre-born, you are not just spending your money. You are making an investment in a life, in saving a life. And it's not just that you're actually making an eternal investment, which is just incredible. Every time you donate to pre-born, whether it's $2, whether it's $28, which covers the cost of a life-saving ultrasound, maybe it's way more than that. Maybe you can donate $2,800, whatever you can donate.

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representative of most men. This is not representative of Christianity. It's not representative of the audience in that room. As you could hear, that segment, and you didn't get to listen to the whole segment there, although the whole speech is on my YouTube page, and you can watch it for yourself. There was a very enthusiastic applause there. It was met with a lot of positivity. And I saw a lot of people saying, oh, you know, Allie shouldn't be surprised by this negative reaction. Well, there wasn't a negative reaction in person. So here's the variety of criticisms. And again, I think this is instructive for all of us to be able to respond to these. So this is a feminist nagging women. She should just, she should focus on women. Number three, she took the place of a man

and number four, a violation of biblical commands. That, of course, is the most important one. And we'll spend the most time responding to that one. So the first one there, you saw the clip that was part of my speech. This is a feminist nagging men. And I just want to make sure that I'm understanding here what is being argued because it's so important to define our terms. So whenever I'm talking to someone that I think is arguing from a place of emotion, I want to slow things down and I'm going to bring logic and reasonableness into the conversation because Christians are called to be reasonable and say, what do you mean by that? Defend. your terms. What do you mean by feminist? Okay, that's interesting. Where are you getting,

where are you getting that term? Like, okay, if a woman is saying something true in public, did she just do a feminism? Okay, okay, explain to me like where you got that. How did you come to that conclusion? It's really important that we get on the same page because from my understanding, as I talked about, for the longest portion of that speech, feminism might come in many iterations but what it has convinced women is not just that they can be equal to a man, but that they can be the same as a man. And so when a woman is denying her own unique femininity and attempts to be like a man and to be a man and to take the place of a man, that could be argued that that is a conclusion or a fruit of feminism, which of course I argued is a failure for women.

feminism says we don't need masculinity we don't need men their strength is not unique they don't have a unique capacity they don't have a unique capability women can do everything just as well as a man can but that is not what i argue that's never what i've argued that's not what i believe and in fact you heard in that clip that i said that we need masculinity one of the most viewed prager you videos is my prager you video from 2019 i think I think it was 2019 or no, this would have been 2018 because this is before I had babies. In 2018, where I debunk this myth of toxic masculinity. And for five minutes, I explain why masculinity is so important and so necessary to a functioning

and thriving society. My audience there was a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds. There were some grownups there, some out of college people, but a lot of 19 and 20 year old college students, mostly Christians. And as I said, I got a very enthusiastic response. There were a lot of young men in this room who were happy to hear an older sister in Christ plead with them in a very respectful and loving and affirming way that you are needed, that your strength is needed, that your leadership is needed. It was not reacted to the way the internet reacted to it at all. male seminary students and college students after I was done with my speech lined up behind the

mic to ask my perspective on things they were very kind. It was taken exactly as I intended it, as affirmation and as encouragement and a pleading from a female perspective to turn away from the damage of porn. And I got a really sweet post from someone who said, you know, I showed this to my 17-year-old son and he had never really seen this or heard this from a female perspective. And it really changed kind of like how he thought about this. And it was unique. And he said that his son shared it with a bunch of his friends. And I think it's super important for men to hear this from other strong men. But it's okay for women to also say, hey, this is damaging. And like, we really appreciate you as a man and appreciate your strength.

But this is not good. This is sapping you of your strength, actually. So this negative reaction was from a very niche segment of the online male right. The accusation that I, Ali Beth Stuckey, am a feminist, is laughable. It almost doesn't dignify a response. Those of you who know me, who have been listening to me, who have been reading me for any amount of time, you know how hard I go against the tenets of feminism. against the gender ideology that I think was born of feminism in many ways. I actually argue that in this speech that the ideology of feminism led to the idea that a man can become a woman. How hard I go against abortion. How hard I go against every tenant of progressivism. And look, by the grace of God and the grace of God alone, there is probably not another Christian woman in the conservative commentary space. who has made more of an effort than I have to pull women away from progressivism,

to try to change women's minds and hearts when it comes to abortion, to try to change women's minds and hearts when it comes to marriage, when it comes to the reproductive technology industry, when it comes to even changing their mind on things like immigration and crime and the death penalty who have tried, who's tried so hard. And by the grace of God in many ways effectively, I mean, maybe there's some people out there whose minds haven't been changed. But the Lord is so kind to show me the messages from people who say, yeah, I was a victim

of toxic empathy. I was pro-choice. I was pro-open borders. I was pro-trans. I was pro-I-death penalty and all of these things. And I have tried my darndest as a woman. in my female capacity, from my feminine perspective, to write two women for women, to try to pull them away from the trap of progressivism and toxic empathy. So to say that I am a feminist who preaches to

men really is just laughable. And it just goes to show that people will just lie. So just know that. Like people will just lie about you. And I think it was Pastor Todd Wagner, who originally said, leadership in any way is a commitment to being misunderstood. And that is true. If you have any kind of audience, there is going to be a level of deliberate misunderstanding and misrepresentation that you don't have to like, but you do just kind of have to realize is going to be there. The second one that I shouldn't preach to men, that I should just focus on women. I mean, you guys know it's what I do. I mean, look at the covers of my books. look at the color of them.

Do those look like books that are trying to target a masculine audience? I have been writing two women, four women, talking two women for women very intentionally since the very beginning. I started out speaking at sorority chapters. Okay? Like that was the beginning of this for me. This started because I was leading a Bible study of freshman college girls when I was one year out of college.

and that was in 2015 and 2014-2015, and that was the beginning, of course, of that election season, started talking about, okay, what does the Bible have to say about abortion and politics and things like that? And I was actually able to persuade one of the girls in my Bible study who believed that she was a Bernie Sanders supporting pro-choice girl that the Bible doesn't support abortion. And of course, today, by the grace of God, she's totally changed her heart and mind on all of those issues. But that's where it started. And I'm thankful for my related bros, very thankful for them. Thankful for the husbands, too, of the related gals in this audience. But this has been an intentional creation of something for women that gives them clarity and gives them courage.

It's funny, though, because we just had share of the arrows and, you know, we had 6,700 women attend our second annual share. the arrows and it was a solid biblical conference just for women and the clips that were circulating of share the arrows the same crowd had the same criticisms that this is somehow feminism and this is somehow wrong and so the goalpost seemed to always move when you're talking exclusively to women women shouldn't be talking when you're talking to men and women women shouldn't be talking to a mixed crowd at all even outside of church and so you just it just goes to show you You cannot live by the crowd. Like you can't try to please man.

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criticism out there that by me being up um at the turning point podium which i have done many many times over the past eight years um that i took the place of a man that that should be a man's job and a man's job only and there's this idea that this is a zero-sum game that if i have a podcast or am i if I'm asked to speak or if I do the Jubilee debate, then that means that I am taking the place of some male counterpart. And if I am not asked to do those things, then these people would be invited. And that's just, it's not how it works. It's not how it works. There's this idea that if I didn't have relatable, that all of the women who listen to Relatable or all of the women who come to share the arrows would go to their conferences and listen to their podcast. But again, that

not how it works. And like, I hope that you would agree with that because men and women are interchangeable, right? Like men and women bring a unique thing to the table. Like, it's not just arbitrary. We can't just be exchanged out like widgets. Like you agree with that. And if that's the case, then you sitting in this place is not going to do the same. It's not going to do the same thing. And no one is stopping a man from leading. Like if you want to lead, then you should lead. If you want to speak out, then you should speak out. And if you have to. And if you have a lot, have something to say, then people will listen. And if you are someone that is worth following, then people will follow you. That doesn't mean that everyone with followers are people worth following.

That's true. But if you have been trying to lead and you've been trying to lend your voice to the public sphere and you feel like, gosh, I'm just not getting the attention or the following that I need, it might not be anyone else's fault. Like we all just have to ask ourselves, like, are we in the lane that God has called us to? Are we using our gifts, our true. gifts the way that God has called us to use them. Like the truth is is that not everyone, male or female, is made for the public sphere. Not everyone is. Like we have all different kinds of talents, all different kinds of callings, all different kinds of strengths and weaknesses. And even if you believe that men in general are more suited for the public sphere

than women are, and in general, like I would probably say that's true. Statistically, I would probably say that's true, that doesn't mean that all men are cut out for it and all women are not cut out for it. Like there is just a level of toughness and reasonableness that I think is required to be able to engage in the public sphere well. And like I think about Jubilee and how thankfully, like the Lord just met me there and the Holy Spirit helped me so much navigate those conversations and how I was able to use actually like my uniqueness as a woman in that very tenuous situation to contend for the faith. I think that that was a huge asset to me in the moment that I didn't have to abandon

my femininity or my gentleness or my friendliness or my womanhood in any way to very effectively and persuasively contend for the faith. And there is this idea, I think, by a lot of these people who also criticized my Jubilee performance that, well, you know, she's a woman so she can't have done as good of a job as me. Some man, well, okay, I guess, you know, I won't say anything about that. Maybe you'll get the opportunity to do that one day. And you can prove that to everyone. I hope that for you. But a lot of people who fancy themselves good debaters have never been put in that arena. You have to have a lot of self-control.

And I will just say a lot of people who are in this conversation online don't have a lot of self-control and fall into logical fallacies very easily and fall into emotion-driven arguments and project their own offense on what someone is saying. extremely easily. And male or female, if that is your propensity, you're not cut out for it. Like, you're not cut out for the public debate. You got to be tougher than that. You just do. Now, here's the most important thing. The most important contention is that me speaking to a group like that at turning point, or me speaking at all, because again, I get the same criticism if I'm even speaking at a women's conference, like share the arrows. That this is not following biblical commands. And this is really important. No matter who is saying this to you, you need to open up your ear to this because when someone quotes scripture, we need to be able to look at the

word of God. And even if it rubs you the wrong way, even if you don't want to hear it, even if it makes you feel guilty, we should listen. And we should be willing to humble ourselves and say, okay, even if I don't like that person, even if I don't like their tone, even if I don't like what they're saying is what they're saying true. Now, the critics in this case did not lend me that same respect, but I want to do that, not because I care about them, but because I care about the Word of God. And so there are a few things, a few scriptures that were kind of lodged when it comes to the subject. One, that wives need to submit to their husbands. And that would be a quotation of Ephesians 5. We've talked about this passage so much as it comes.

to marriage and the definition of marriage. But starting with verse 22, wives submit to your own husband as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. So that's one verse that I've seen that in me doing this is a lack of submission and male headship. And then there's also, also 1 Corinthians 1434 through 35 quoted. And by the way, they're not usually actually quoting the exact verses. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here and actually pointing to the scripture. So this is in the context of Paul talking to the church in Corinth about the orderliness

of worship. He talks about the different ways to prophesy, speaking in tongues and all of that. Apparently it was pretty chaotic. And then he specifically calls out women. He says, as in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches for their not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the law also says. If there is anything that they desire to learn, let them ask their husband at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. Now, even the most conservative and patriarchal church that I know of will allow a woman to sing and will allow a woman to maybe give announcements or to say something pertaining to the children's ministry. And so even the most literal interpretation of this when Paul is saying

women should keep silent is typically interpreted as women should not be teaching in the churches and they certainly shouldn't be disorderly. 1 Timothy 2.11, let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man. Rather, she is to remain quiet. Again, this is in the context of the local church. And then another criticism is that while women should be keepers of the home and clearly you're on a stage and so you're not following Titus 2, 3 through 8. Older women likewise are to be

reverend in behavior, not slanders or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good. And so train the young women to love their husbands and children to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands that the word of God may not be reviled. Likewise, urge the younger men to be self-controlled. Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works. and in your teaching show integrity, dignity, and sound speech that cannot be condemned so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us. Yes and amen to all of that. Wow. Self-control is so important to the Lord.

We see it over and over again that all demographics, that all age groups, that all genders are to be self-controlled. Now, I'm not saying the command is the same. It doesn't manifest itself the same way for every single group, clearly here. but we see over and over again that self-control is so important for every group. So women are to prioritize the home. They are to prioritize children. They are not to prioritize something, put something first that is not their home. And so, as I have always said, I think there is some work that allows women to do this.

And there is some work that does not allow women to do this. There are some jobs that make this flexibility and prioritization possible. And there are some jobs that do not make this possible. And there are different seasons of life that call for different things for women. And I think that we need to respect that. I have been extremely consistent on that. And I am so incredibly thankful that I have a job that allows me to have the flexibility that I do. I am so thankful for the setup that we have in our home.

and I always hesitate because I don't want it to seem like, well, I have to give an account to these random men on the internet exactly how we run our home and exactly what my schedule is, exactly what my day to day looks like. I feel no obligation to do that at all. But a lot of you know I've talked about this publicly that my husband, chief Relaterbro, is my business manager. We work together full time. He makes decisions on our behalf. He runs all of the business part of everything. And I'm so thankful that when it comes to this professional sphere, that all I have to worry about is the discipleship. All I have to worry about is the content of what I say.

I love dreaming. I love thinking. I love coming up with ideas. I love talking, teaching, communicating with you, mentoring you, talking with you. And he runs and leads and organizes and manages all of the business side of everything we do. and I'm so thankful for that. My dad is a big part of everything we do. My parents and I, we live very close to each other.

That also helps make all of this possible. And I'll just give you an example. You know, I'm so private about our family life and for good reason and we'll never change on that. We'll never waver on that. But just to give you like a little peek, I saw someone criticize the fact that I was at LSU. It was actually a blazed colleague. echoing this like, oh, well, you know, where are her kids? Like, I can just tell you that my husband and I went to Baton Rouge there and back same evening while my kids spent a few hours with my parents.

And so that's what it looked like. We make a lot of sacrifices to make sure that our kids are as involved as possible. We, my husband and I saw someone else say, oh, she must never spend time with her husband, which actually made me laugh out loud because my husband and I spend a ridiculous amount of time together. It's amazing. We love spending time together. We love hanging out. We are together all the time. And we do everything possible to involve our kids in everything we do. For example, a couple weeks ago, we went to Michigan again there and back, very quick, very efficient. We are incredibly efficient in what we do. And we brought our six-year-old. And it was like such a great time. In California, the Lord lined it up to where we had all of

these different business engagements and speaking engagements. And we didn't go there and back and leave our kids every time we had to leave. We instead made it a two and a half week trip where we brought our entire family. Like that is what we do. I submit to my husband. I submit most importantly to the Lord. I respect and honor my pastor. I respect and honor my father. And I am not under the authority. I am not in any spiritual. obligation to any random man on the internet. I'm just not. And so all of these biblical commands that are so important that we should adhere to by the grace of God. Like we as a family are doing our very best as imperfect people, but to obey these commands. And like I appreciate the

concern random men on the internet. I'm sure that it's coming from a great place. but we're good like we're good and we're following god's calling on our life and we're doing it again to the best of our abilities um and all of us every one of us male and female are called to make disciples to make disciples of all nations and again that might look different for men and for women but every single one of us are called to make disciples and i'm very very thankful for the disciples the many women, female disciples that God has created through the vessel of relatable and share the arrows. I'm so thankful for that. The fruit of that is very evident.

And the Lord consistently reminds me of the fruit of that. And so I know a lot of you get worried about me feeling down or getting discouraged. And I appreciate you always trying to buoy me and pray for me. But honestly, like your testimonies and how you tell me, you were affected by a guest or a line or whatever it was. Like the Lord uses that as fuel to keep me going. And yeah, sometimes it is difficult. But again, we're doing this for the glory of God.

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something that people know generates clicks. And I will say, like, can I just have a moment of humility and self-reflection? Like, it has made me think about how I discuss people's moments. Like, when they say something that people are deeming controversial, and I chime in on that, now, I don't attack people's character. I just don't. That's not like a line that I will go down. Yes, of course, if a false teacher is preaching a false gospel, I will call them a false teacher. We have a lot of biblical examples of the importance of doing that. But I'm not going to go into someone's personal life. I'm not going to, I just don't do that.

But I, like, I will publicly disagree with someone. Again, I think there's a lot of biblical precedent for that. I think that we can contend with someone's argument and, like, their biblical take on something. I've done that many times. But it has made me think a little bit more. I just wonder if the Lord is using this to like teach me in some way. And so I do, I just want to like remain open and humble to what the Lord might be showing me. And even though I think the critics, many of them are acting totally in in bad faith and are just like wrong biblically.

Like we should remain open to what the Lord might be teaching us, right? Like in any given moment, we should pay attention to those convictions. And when you start thinking, huh, this doesn't feel good. and like have I done this? Have I made this mistake? Have I like piled on? I hope not. I hope that I've done this in like a biblically accurate way. But it just makes you think, okay, now like I can see from this perspective. I see it a little bit differently now. And I want to be even more careful in the future, like how I talk about people and how I talk about them when a person becomes the story. And you guys who have been following me know that I try really, really hard to be as respectful and accurate as possible, but I'm sure I haven't always gotten it right.

And so it's just made me say, huh, I want to be even more cautious about this because I see how like discouraging and difficult it must be. And when people just lie about you and they misrepresent you or people latch on to a life and multiple people reach out to me and apologize because they're like, oh, I believe this misrepresentation of you or. your marriage or your home or your business or whatever. And I just want to like apologize for believing that. First of all, don't reach out to me and tell me that. Like, that's just an inside thought. I don't need to know that you believe that lie about me. But that can be super frustrating. So we should all just be super cautious about what we are repeating, what we're saying, and what the motivations behind what we are saying. Are we correcting someone because we want to build up the body of Christ and because the truth really matters and we're hoping to rebuke and edify in a biblical way, or are we just doing something because it's generating clicks because it's a controversy? And I do want us to remember, again, that all of us are called to self-control. And all of us are called to pay close attention to our speech. This segment of the male right, again, a lot of them, I don't actually think are believers, just profess to be believers. They are very crass. They're very sexually degenerate

in many ways. They will make a lot of sexual jokes. They are very degrading, very rude to women across the board. I'm not saying all. And guys, if you're listening to this, I'm going to tell you what I tell my female audience. So important for all of us on the internet, if it's not about you, it's not about you. It's not about you. It's not about you. If something doesn't describe you, then it's not about you. If you are the anomaly or you are the exception, you don't have to tell me. You don't have to tell me. It's good.

Keep it inside thought. But if I'm not talking about you when I'm describing this, if you feel like you had a very legitimate concern that you raised in a very kind way, they're not talking about you. But a lot of this people in this segment of the so-called right are just very rude and very crass, very degenerate, very depraved and very calloused. And I just like want to remind us of what the Bible has to say for all of us, regardless of our gender, regardless of our role. 1 Corinthians 6, 9 through 10, or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers,

nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. Wow, you're going to go to hell if you're a reviler. What does a reviler mean? Someone who is taking to fits of anger who slanders. So that means saying negative, saying something negative about someone that is not true, a gossip, someone who uses words, especially untrue words to maliciously hurt someone's character. It's not just disagreement. It's not just rebuke. It's not an admonition. This is someone who misrepresents someone to try to tear down their character. Wow, a reviler will not inherit the kingdom of God. And it's interesting. We can, we can, consistently see like homosexuality and sexual immorality in the same list as slander and reviling and just being brutal. We talked about Romans 1 yesterday. It does the same thing. Romans 1, 28 through 32 talking about people who were given to homosexuality goes on to say in verse 29, they were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil covetousness, wanting what someone else has malice full of envy murder strife deceit maliciousness gossip slanders haters of god insolent haughty boastful inventors of evil disobedient to parents foolish faithless heartless ruthless though they know

god's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them and i think of a lot of the excuse making of extremely crass people from this segment of the right. A lot of these people will hail and honor people like Nick Fuentes, who of course is extremely haughty and reviles and is crass and is crude and is brutal and is ruthless and boastful, all of these people, all of these characteristics that are listed in this segment. And so they will give approval to those who practice. these things. And this description here in Romans 1 are describing people who have been given over to the depravity of their mind. They're actually put in the same category as people who are

homosexual, who are practicing homosexuality, the same kind of depravity of mind. And, you know, I made this point that Rosaria Butterfield made so good that you are not going to win people over to the gospel by affirming the very sins that Christ died for. And there's this idea and the segment that if you kind of match their tone and you match their words and you match their strategies, well, then these young men will become Christians. Well, just as you can't affirm homosexuality and affirm LGBTQ ideology and the hopes that you're going to win people over to Christ, you're also not going to affirm slander and crassness and crudeness and brutality and win people over to the cross of Christ, it's just not going to work.

But understand this, 2 Timothy 3 1 through 5 says, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty for people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, ungrateful, ungrateful, unhelpful, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power, avoid such people. Ephesians 4 3 30 through 32 and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another as God and Christ forgave you. Remember that gentleness is a fruit of the spirit that is applied to all of us that should be true of all Christian. and self-control is a fruit of the spirit that is for all of us. A gentle and quiet spirit is something that women are told that we should have in scripture and we should. That does not mean silence. That does not mean that we have no role to play in pushing back against darkness.

And yes, of course, that high calling of being a wife and a mother doing the next right thing usually means that for us. Like doing the thing with our home, with our children. But there are times as we see throughout scripture that women are also called to raise a voice and to be a bastion and refuge of clarity and courage. And remember, gentle and quiet is not just something that is applied to women. Gentleness is a fruit of the spirit for everyone. All right. There are some takeaways here.

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Some people on the left say, oh, ABS, she's getting a taste of her own medicine. and now she's going to see, now she's going to see that conservatism is bad. Now she's going to see that the Southern Baptist Convention is bad or being a Baptist or being traditional or whatever that she's never going to be good enough. Oh, you were under the impression that I was doing this for their approval? Well, that's where you're wrong. And I don't have my theology because I think it's going to get me likes. I don't believe the things I do because it's popular.

If I wanted to be popular, I would not be a reformed Christian. I would not be anti-IV and pro-death penalty. I just wouldn't. Like, I have very narrow beliefs, and I am an anchor on the right, getting more and more people to come to what I believe is a biblical position on politics and culture. I don't do that because it's popular. I believe these things. I say these things because I believe that they are right.

and I'm doing my very best as a fallible person to follow the word of God. And women, that's what you are called to do. Do not run into the arms of feminists. I've seen this happen so much with people who are deconstructing. Someone hurt them in the church. Maybe a group of people hurt them. Maybe people in their theological camp hurt them. They didn't like what was going on in their local church.

Or maybe it was a professor who failed them or a pastor who failed them and they will just say, okay, I'm done. Then what they believe isn't true. And while I understand that, because you're thinking, wow, if this is the fruit of that belief system, then maybe it's not good at all. I actually think that's a fair thing to say and to make an assessment. You should look at the fruit of your belief system and the fruit of your doctrines. And that should make you go back to the Word of God and say, okay, hang on, do I have this right?

I think that's a good thing. But the most important thing I said there is go back to the Word of God. If you are looking at someone who shares beliefs that you do, someone in your church, someone in your theological or political camp, and you say that fruit is rotten, that fruit is nasty. And like their ministry is on a bad path. Before you say I'm out and I don't want to be affiliated with what they believe, so I don't believe it either. Before you say that, go to the Word of God and say, okay, God, what do you say?

Because what you say matters, what these people say, they don't matter. But what you say matters, you go to the Word of God and you say, Lord, give me the wisdom, give me the eyes to see, give me the ears to hear from you, and as long as you are following in God's word, you do not judge your effectiveness. We say this a lot. We don't judge our effectiveness or faithfulness by people's approval or disapproval of us, by people's reaction to us, whether they are on the left or the right. We judge our faithfulness by our alignment to God's word. And thankfully, God, if you are a Christian, has already stamped you, approved and righteous before him not because of anything you've done not because of anything you say

but because of what Christ has done for you on the cross he has wiped your slate clean and covered you with his blood and given you his righteousness so you are already righteous before God but as we are being sanctified and as we are trying to walk in his ways we look to his word and we say okay am I doing this right holy spirit help me God's word guide me okay So don't run into the arms of people who are flattering you and who are telling you nice things and who are saying, oh, maybe progressivism's right. Maybe the church isn't right. Oh, Satan loves that so much.

It goes all the way back to the garden. When he puts that wedge between, when Satan puts that wedge between Eve and God by saying, but, you know, she saw that the fruit looked good. She was hungry. Satan exploited that and used that. Did God really say? Did God really say? And if you feel yourself asking that or wondering that right now, don't run to the doubts. Don't feed the doubts. You want to starve your doubts with faith and knowledge from the Word of God. If you live by the crowd, you will die by the crowd. If you are motivated by, if your race is marked by what people think of you, you will exhaust yourself.

If you are motivated by your own self-love, if you're motivated by others' approval of you, by them cheering you on, then one day, when all of that changes, when you say the wrong thing, when you make the wrong person mad, you are going to stop. But if you are running the race that is marked out for you,

the calling that God is placed on your life, even if you get discouraged sometimes, the Holy Spirit will, give you the perseverance and endurance to keep going. And the last thing I just want to say here is that women, like you are essential to the church. You are essential to the body of Christ. As I said, the Bible is not feminist. Jesus was not a feminist. Our innate worth, which is so much better than feminism, is in the Amago Day that we are made in God's image, that we have equal value, that we have equal worth, that is the radical part of Christianity,

that Jesus attends to the needs and recognizes the dignity of women, not from a place of feminism, but from a place of love, from recognizing the beauty of the Amago Day in women and men. And, you know, the Bible, of course, written in a largely patriarchal society, And I'm certainly not someone who is like wants to buck against that. I think patriarchy can be done in like a very beautiful way, should be done and a very like caring and biblical way. But even amidst that backdrop, the writers of the Bible inspired by the Holy Spirit, all of the

people who were led by the Holy Spirit to compile the 66 books of the Bible purposely included. these courageous stories of women obeying God at whatever cost and God accomplishing his will through Esther and through Ruth and through Deborah and through Abigail and through Lydia and through jail and through Rahab and through Mary and through Martha and through so many others. They speak to women's unique value to the kingdom. That doesn't mean that women have the same role as men. We don't have the same role as men. I'm like very hard line on this. I don't think that women should be pastors. I don't think they should be

preaching at church from a pulpit into a mixed crowd. I don't think they need to be preaching on Sunday morning. Like I am like you guys don't even know how like hardline I am on that and how many opportunities I have turned down and how many like so so many opportunities I have turned down because of that because of that stance because I believe it's biblical and I believe that God knows better than me. He knows better than me. And so we just have to make sure that our faithfulness is to what the word of God says and what he says about women and how he uses women, that we are abiding by Titus too, that we are ensuring that we are aligning with God's word and all of these things. And women, that doesn't exclude you from every sphere.

That doesn't silence your voice. You are needed in so many ways. And while also acknowledging that motherhood and being a wife is an extremely high calling, you've heard me say that about a billion times as a big focus of this podcast and how important that is and why the culture wars actually matter to motherhood in all of that. and I just want to encourage you and comfort you also because I know a lot of you are like, you're worried. Oh my gosh, Ali, please keep going. Don't stop just because of these misguided people. And as long as the Lord calls me to this, as long as he gives me the grace to do this,

and I am able to do this and prioritize my children and my husband, I will continue to do this. I don't know what every season is going to look like, but he has given me so much grace and so much provision in this moment that he has allowed me to continue. And I will. I will. Don't worry. I'm not deterred at all. Oh, I also just want to say one thing. I should have said this earlier, but you've got all these people who are surmising about money and all of this stuff because that's totally healthy to be like counting the pennies of someone else. That turning point of it, a lot of people are saying, oh, she got paid. She took money away from blah, blah, blah. did that for free. Okay. No, not every speaking event is done for free. But the turning point one was.

That was a gift for Charlie. That was a gift for turning point. So again, that's just an example of like, what people say online is not, they don't know. They just don't know. It's just not representative of reality. And that is true for you too. So you just stay the course, woman. You stay the course and you run the race that Jesus has marked out for you, you obey his word, you listen to his voice, you submit to your own husband and your own church leadership, you take the wisdom of the elders and the wise and godly people in your life and do not be persuaded or dissuaded by the just empty chatter of people online. All right, just a couple more things to say. Let me tell you about our last sponsor for the day, and that is Constitution wealth. You want to make sure that

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lot. But I want to end this episode with the call to share the arrows. Okay. We got to share the arrows with the sister in Christ. Her name is Elizabeth Eddie. She is a soccer player, a professional soccer player for Angel City FC. And she wrote the op-ed, this op-ed in the New York Post, arguing that only women should be playing in the National Women's Soccer League. Oh my goodness, how radical her teammates then publicly criticized her, calling her a racist and calling her transphobic. Okay. So here's what she had to say that was apparently so controversial in her op-ed. She said, I'm concerned that without clarity about who the league is for, it will lose its identity and its momentum. She proposed specific testing methods to verify players eligibility,

writing the NWSL National Women's Soccer League must adopt a clear standard. She said that maybe a standard should be all players must be born with ovaries, as another sports organization requires. Another option Eddie mentioned was an SRI gene test like those world athletics and world boxing implemented. Eddie cited the NIH, that's the National Institutes of Health, showing measurable differences between men and women in muscle mass, bone density, and cardiovascular capacity, which directly affect competitive outcomes. It's so stupid that we even have to say this. We've talked about that Duke University study over and over again since 2012 that show the gap in performance between elite female athletes. like Tori Bowie and high school male athletes, that the high school male track athletes beat the world record of the Olympian track athlete like 15,000 times.

Okay. That is the difference between male and female because they concluded of one difference, one thing that makes all the difference in athletic performance. And that is the existence of testes. I bet you didn't think we would say that word today on the show. But that's what they said. The production of testosterone is what makes the difference in not only in puberty, but also in utero. So their bone density, their muscle mass, their aerobic and anaerobic capacity, even if they go on cross-sex hormones, it is insurmountable.

A woman just cannot overcome that. And so she is speaking the scientific truth about this in an op-ed. Like she didn't even bring up any ideological argument. She brought up a scientific argument. She is a Christian. Christians are very clear on this. So good for her. And here is what her own teammates had to say.

Sot 10. We've all obviously seen the article that was written in the New York Post earlier this week. So I really want to start off by saying that that article does not speak for this team in this locker room. I've had a lot of combos with my teammates in the past few days and they are hurt and they are harmed by the article and also they are disgusted by some of the things that were said in the article and it's really important for me to say that. And we don't agree with the things written for a plethora of reasons, but mostly the undertones come across as transphobic and racist as well. The article calls for genetic testing on certain players and it has a photo. of an African player as a headline and that's very harmful.

And to me, it's inherently racist because to single out this community based on them looking or being different is absolutely a problem. That's what I have to say. I just cannot racist because they dared use a picture of a black woman. You know what?

I can't speak for this sweet soccer player who probably didn't want this controversy. And let me just say before I say what I'm about to say. Elizabeth, like, go to her Instagram. I have it on my story. Well, I probably don't anymore, but I did yesterday. Elizabeth Eddie, go to her Instagram, comment nice things, send her a message, pray for her. This is a sister in Christ. This is sharing the arrows. Okay. We say, hey, bully over there. Yeah, whatever arrows you're sending towards her, you can send him my way too. Yeah, thanks. Like, oh, you're going to call her that. You can call me that. I don't care.

Oh, you're going to bully her. You can bully me too. Go for it. And thousands of us stand up and say, you know, you're not alone. Okay, you don't have to bully the bullies. You can just say, you know what? I'm going to absorb some of this blow too. Because that is treating other people how we would want to be treated. This sister in Christ stood up for what is good, right, and true, and protection of women and girls.

And she is getting blasted for it in the comments. She's getting blasted from her own teammates. She's being called things that are just not true. They are maligning her character because she spoke to what is biologically a fact. And so this woman says, she doesn't agree. what don't you agree with, you don't agree with the science? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, okay? I'm going to try to, I'm trying to be nice here. I'm trying to be nice because I just don't want, I don't want anything that I have to say to be used against

Elizabeth, even more. But I have some not nice things to say to that woman who was just speaking. I'll just say this. You're wrong. You're wrong. Science proves you're wrong. Morality proves you're wrong. History will prove you wrong. And you're selfish. Sorry, I couldn't help it. You're selfish. You're selfish because you've already made your way in soccer and you don't care about the teenage girls that are coming up behind you that won't get the scholarship and won't get the opportunity because a man is taking their place. You're selfish. And Elizabeth is the opposite of that and good for her. And she deserves all of our applause and she deserves our support. So go give it to her and share her arrows. Okay. All in all, women are awesome. That's all I have to say, and we will be back here on Friday.