Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1269 | How 'Furry' P*rn Leads to Political Violence

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Allie exposes the dark pipeline from pornography to transgenderism and furry fetishes — revealing how sexual deviancy fueled both Trump’s would-be assassin and Charlie Kirk’s killer. What the world calls “identity,” Scripture calls demonic delusion. No more excuses, no more nuance. Join us to stare evil in the face, reclaim God’s design for sexuality, and protect the next generation from destruction. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Introduction (02:00) What is Transgenderism? (12:00) Demonic Influence (19:30) Dark Obsessions on the Web (21:50) Radicalization of Gender Ideology (29:45) What are Furries? (43:50) Link Between P*rnography and Violence (53:30) Biblical Response --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and subscribe to any box (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) to get free burgers, hot dogs, bacon, or chicken wings in every box for life. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use code ALLIE at checkout. EveryLife — The only premium baby brand that is unapologetically pro-life. EveryLife offers high-performing, supremely soft diapers and wipes that protect and celebrate every precious life. Head to ⁠⁠⁠EveryLife.com⁠⁠⁠ and use promo code ALLIE10 to get 10% of your first order today! We Heart Nutrition — Get 20% off women's vitamins with We Heart Nutrition, and get your first bottle of their new supplement, Wholesome Balance; use code ALLIE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeHeartNutrition.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Constitution Wealth Management — Let's discover what faithful stewardship looks like in your life. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ConstitutionWealth.com/Allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠for a free consultation. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 1075 | Furries, Fairies & Fake Babies: Reacting to the Worst of TikTok ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1075-furries-fairies-fake-babies-reacting-to-the/id1359249098?i=1000671336436⁠ Ep 681 | Gender Identity or Sexual Fetish? & Big Win for Virginia Parents | Guest: Jennifer Lahl ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-681-sexual-fetish-or-transgender-big-win-for-virginia/id1359249098?i=1000580099826⁠ Ep 1029 | Whistleblower Nurse Uncovers “Trans Kid” Medicaid Fraud | Guest: Vanessa Sivadge ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1029-whistleblower-nurse-uncovers-trans-kid-medicaid/id1359249098?i=1000660952943⁠ Ep 1020 | Botched: The Brutality of Trans Mastectomies | Guest: Soren Aldaco ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1020-botched-the-brutality-of-trans/id1359249098?i=1000659311855⁠ --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠https://www.alliebethstuckey.com⁠⁠   Relatable merchandise – use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠

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And it is from, this is the worst answer ever. It is from a boutique in Highlands, North Carolina. I can't tell you where it may be available online. And that is true also of this blouse. If you have the question, I got it from the same boutique in Highlands, North Carolina, like a year ago. But I'm sure you could find something similar somewhere online. I'm sorry. I'm not a fashion influencer or else I would have a link for you.

But unfortunately, I don't. So I just wanted to answer that very pressing question. All right, today we're going to talk about a subject that we have talked about many times, but we're going to approach it from a unique angle. You have heard me talk about transgenderism from every different direction for the past, you know, five plus years. And something that a lot of people don't talk about is the dark underbelly of the ideology of transgenderism. It was believed at one point, even by me a few years ago, that these are all people who are genuinely confused. They have gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia. They look in the mirror and it doesn't feel like them.

They feel like they're trapped in the wrong body. And I believe that most people who felt this way were born with that or at least they started feeling that in childhood. And I have always felt, of course, that it's wrong, that it's incongruent with reality and that people who have that kind of distress need a kind of therapy that helps them reconcile their mind with physical reality. And while I still believe that, I no longer believe that most people today who say that they're the opposite sex have true gender dysphoria. I believe that gender dysphoria exists as it is defined or was defined in the DSM-5.

That's the big manual of mental illness that describes gender dysphoria as the insistent, persistent, and consistent belief that they were born in the wrong body or that they are the. opposite sex. And statistically, it was a lot more prevalent in young boys. It was almost unheard of in young girls. And it started from a very young age. But now, of course, what we've seen is this form of rapid onset gender dysphoria, which we learned a lot about through Abigail Schreier's first book. And gosh, what was the name of her first book? Can someone look that up and remind me? should know because I loved it and I learned a lot from it. But this idea that young adolescent girls, what is it called? Irreversible damage, of course. I'll never forget the

cover of that book, which is just so iconic and sad, but talked about the research from Brown University's Lisa Lipman that showed that these young adolescent girls, while they were teenagers, were suddenly believing that they were boys and that this actually was the result of something called a social contagion, much like cutting, much like eating disorders, where young girls are seeking some kind of affirmation and validation or maybe escape from trauma. And so they are mutilating their body in some way as a form of control or maybe a form of attention and validation. This is not something that they were born with.

true gender dysphoria. It is almost a coping mechanism and a lot of young women to escape from some kind of confusion or true oppression that they dealt with sometimes linked to their femininity like sexual trauma or something like that. But then the other side of this is in boys. It's not true today that most of the boys and men who identify as the opposite sex do so because they have gender dysphoria that they were born with or that they developed as a child. But today it is, I believe, mostly due to pornography. It is due to a sexual fetish that they have developed over time, that there is now a very real algorithmic pipeline via porn hub and other porn sites that push young men to seek more and more exciting dopamine hits. So,

the pornography changes from something that is simple to something that might be more erotic, more violent, more subversive, and it gets into not only like different kinds of sexual deviancy, in addition to just pornography, homosexuality, but then gender bending and gender fluidity. And we have talked about, this is very disturbing, but we have talked about a woman who has researched this, Genevieve Glock, who is the editor of the magazine called Rida. and she has looked into the link between something called sissy pornography and the rise of transgenderism, this fetish of wanting to be feminized as a man, wanting to be submissive as a man, and how this very much has to do with this rise of transgenderism among a lot of men.

So it's true that these men who want to go into girls' locker rooms, who want to go into girls' bathrooms, are not doing so because they really think that they were born in. in the wrong body, but because they're perverts. Those are the exact opposite kind of men that you want infiltrating women's spaces. Of course, you don't want any man doing that, but especially not a man who is a sexual deviant in every way and who actually gets off on humiliation. Humiliation for themselves and humiliation for women and girls. This kind of cisification porn actually depicts women as objects and depicts women as just things to be degraded and humiliated. And so I believe that that is what is motivating the majority of transgenderism among men today. And I just want you to know that,

that this is not nuance, that this doesn't deserve more of our empathy, that these people don't deserve to be allowed into any women's spaces at all. But I want you to stare at it in the eyes as sexual depravity and perversion that doesn't have anything to do with gender. It has to do with sex. Like, and I'm not talking about biological sex. I'm talking about sexual fetish and pornography. And one subset of this very dangerous and dark form of pornography, it's very disturbing, but okay, like we need to understand how sin works and how this is actually a link to a lot of the issues that we have today, including political violence. One subset of this pornography that is also pushing these men towards sexual degeneracy and gender fluidity, including transgenderism and

non-binary identity, is furry porn. Like, I hate even saying that. Why do we even have to talk about this? And we don't have to go into the details of what this means. I want to try to protect our minds and hearts as much as possible. But we also have to see that this form of pornography is actually leading to, in some ways, political violence that has now affected the president of the United States who had an assassination attempt against him on July 13th, 2024. And then also Charlie Kirk, I do not think it's a coincidence that both of these men who are suspected as the killers of these top, you know, conservative one politician and one activist were also allegedly addicted to this kind of pornography and obsessed with transgenderism.

There is something going on morally and spiritually and psychologically and politically here that we really need to understand, to shake us out of our stupor, that these are identities or interests that deserve our compassion. The people as image bears of God may deserve our compassion and our desire for their repentance, but the issue does not deserve nuance. It deserves courage. It deserves clarity. And for us to have courage, we have to have clarity, which means we have to have. knowledge and we have to kind of look at the belly of the beast and understand how these things are connected. So that's what we're going to dive into today as we look at the new revelations that have come to light about the would-be Trump assassin. We're not going to say his name, just like we're

not going to say Charlie Kirk's assassin's name, the suspect, not because we've been perfect on this because we haven't. There have been times that we've done this in times that we haven't, but because I don't want to contribute anything to this person's fame. This person's. person's notoriety, which is exactly what they are seeking in so many ways. So we'll get into these revelations and what they mean theologically, why we as Christians have to understand them in just a second. Let me go ahead and pause. Tell you about our first sponsor for the day. It's WeHeart Nutrition. Y'all so thankful for WeHeart Nutrition. I've talked to you about them so often, how they really have changed my life in some ways, like not to be dramatic, but really

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So right away, this should sound the alarms for you of something satanic. The first thing I think of, and this just came to me. mind. And so I've got to make sure I have the reference right on Bible Gateway before I say it to you. But I think about Mark 5 when Jesus heals a man with a demon. And this person goes by the name of Legion or the demons go by the name of Legion. So Mark 5 starts by saying they came to the other side of the sea to the country of Gerastanese. maybe that's how I say it. And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs, a man with an unclean spirit. He lived among the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. For he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart and he broke the shackles and pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains, he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him and crying out with a loud voice, he said, What of you to do with me, Jesus? The son of the most high God, I adjure you by God, do not torment me.

For he was saying to him, come out of the man, you unclean spirit. That's what Jesus was saying to him? And Jesus asked him, what is your name? He's speaking to this unclean spirit. And he replied, my name is legion, for we are many. So this demon who is multiple, he's got multiple identities. These are multiple spirits in one, that has taken over the body of this person who is tormented by violence against others and himself, who has this kind of like supernatural viciousness and strength because he is possessed by a demon, he, even though he is one in this body, goes by a multiple pronoun, goes by we. Now, I'm not saying that this legion is necessarily possessing all of these people who go by they, them. I am saying unapologetically that it is demonic, that you cannot be a they, that you cannot be a them, that you cannot be a we.

Subverting reality is demonic. Denying biological truth is demonic. Satan loves it. Why? Because he is the father of lies. Also, what I think about, I think about the depiction of a demon, like Baphimat, for example. Baphomet is depicted as gender fluid. And Baphimates is traditionally seen as a demonic depiction that has been around for a very long time. And actually, if you look at all different kinds of demonic depictions that have been drawn since ancient times, you will see not only gender fluidity or like a haemaphrodite type characteristics. And so you might see female breasts, but you might see male genitalia. as well, but you will also see this cross between a human and an animal. So right here, we see that this person who tried to assassinate Donald Trump, that he was into bestiality, which is forbidden, of course, in scripture, it was actually punishable by death in the Old Testament for a very good reason, but also that this person is messing with gender fluidity, which again had become a sexual fetish and that this had manifested itself in the demonic identity of being they them.

Now, this person is clearly unwell for a lot of reasons. He had an online footprint that included extreme rhetoric espousing political violence as far back as 2019 when he was only 15 years old. He apparently was a former Trump supporter. He left violent threats against the squad. He wished them a quick and painful death. He wrote things in 2019 like murder the Democrats. Then he also would apparently search for things that were violent like Kennedy's assassination. And then in 2020, he became critical of Trump.

He called Trump a racist, referring to Trump supporters as cult followers. He wrote this in 2020. IMO, that means, in my opinion, the only way to fight the government is with terrorism-style attacks, sneak a bomb into an essential building, set it off before anyone sees you, track down, any important people, politicians, military leaders, etc. So I think it's fair to question, like, why didn't the FBI do something about this beforehand? Because the FBI actually is able to step in when someone is making these kinds of threats online. They've actually done it a lot over the past couple of months, which I'm glad about. People have been making very real

death threats through two conservative commentators, like people like, Mount Walsh, people like Seth Dillon, in the past, people like Ben Shapiro, and law enforcement has rightly stepped in. So why wasn't this happening to this guy when we have so much intelligence, so many resources going to our intelligence agencies? I'm not really sure. That's a question to be asked. The FBI has been largely quiet on the suspect's online activity. So why are we learning this right now? After the assassination attempt, according to the New York Post, then FBI director Chris Ray told Congress after July 13th, after that attack that the Bureau had found nothing in would-be assassins' online history that pointed to a motive or political ideology,

which is clearly just not true. That's just not true. A week later, Ray's deputy Paul Abate, not sure how to pronounce his last name, told Congress that comments posted on one of Crook's social media accounts appear to reflect anti-Semitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence, that are described as extreme in nature. And that seems to be a lie by omission. It's hard for me to believe that they didn't also see all of the other things that he

had said about Donald Trump negatively. So here are some other questions that people have, again, according to the New York Post, whether the would-be assassin acted alone or had contact with agents of a foreign government, why the FBI never noticed or investigated the suspect's violent rhetoric online, whether the FBI turned over all evidence it had to congressional investigators. did FBI investigators find all the suspect's online activity or was some of it overlooked? And so I think those are all good questions to ask because I do believe in asking questions, including questions of the FBI and the government and the media in law enforcement without

wrongly implicating people that we have suspicions about that we have no evidence are involved. There's a way to do that. There's a way to ask questions, a very powerful. and government-sponsored entities without bringing people into suspicion that do not need to be suspected. Let's look a little bit more, since we are talking specifically about how these sexual fetishes can be a part of violence, including political violence. Let's look a little bit more about these dark obsessions. This is, Deviant Art says that they are this website where this assassin had a footprint. It's the world's largest online social community for artists and art enthusiasts to share, promote, and discuss their work.

But again, by the name, you can see that it's supposed to be deviant. So this suspect that tried to assassinate Trump had the username Epic Microwave listed the pronouns. We don't really know how they personally identified out in the world. But those are the pronouns that they chose. We're not going to put the pictures up of the art that this person. person was making, but clearly obsessed with the idea of gender fluidity, clearly obsessed with this idea of being submissive themselves. He also posted artwork that revealed an obsession with gore. It looks like it's like a trans flag background. We don't need to put it up.

And then you've got one figure that is shooting the other figure in the head. And we've got a few other very violent depictions like that that this guy seemed to be obsessed with. And I think I might have made a mistake earlier when I was talking about the kind of art that he drew and posted. I think I might have said something about it having like an animal, like animal head, like person body. And while it is true that there is like furry porn that has that and it is demonic, he was more into the gender bending stuff. But the connection to furry, which we're about to get into with Charlie Kirk's assassin, is this, according to Miranda Devine at the New York Post.

He, this assassin, a suspect, he described himself with the pronouns, they, them, on the platform to you and art. And it's one of the biggest online hubs for furry art and furry community. A furry is someone who has an interest in anthropomorphized animal characters, often as a sexual fetish. So let's unpack these traits and how they are also connected. to other assassins against conservative advocates and what it actually means. So this is according to Time Magazine, also according to the New York Post, Transgender and Furry Ideology seems to link several high-profile shootings in the last several years, including Charlie Kirk's

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It's just a further derailment of their concept of humanity. This dovetails with treating the special human gift of language as dangerous, believing that those who expressed disagreement threaten their existence. The entire mentality erodes respect for human life, creates irrational fear of ideological opponents and leaves them unwilling or unable to use words to navigate differences. they default to violence instead. Yep. This actually reminds me of a tweet that I put out on this.

And this was in response to the news that the Trump gunmen that he used these pronouns. And he was obsessed with the website who promoted this like furry porn. And I said transgenderism and of course all sexual deviancy, but especially transgenderism is radicalizing for at least. five reasons. One, there's nothing more detached from reality than thinking you're the opposite sex. Once you've entered a total fantasy land, anything is possible and permissible. Number two, it's attached to extreme porn, which is mentally destabilizing. Number three, the cross-sex pharmaceuticals involved are bad for your mind and body. There's a reason why a man naturally doesn't have that level of estrogen. There's a reason why a woman doesn't naturally have that level of

testosterone, every single cell in our body requires a very fragile makeup of certain hormones. Every cell in our body is gendered, except for a few cells for a man for the purpose of procreating girls. But every cell in our body requires masculine and male hormones or female hormones. It doesn't work otherwise. So puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones are really bad for every. part of your body and it's also bad for your mind. So that's number three. Number four, it has joined, this transgender identity has joined the communist coalition, which has always

been full of sexual degenerates. It's just true. And communism is always violent. It is godless. It worships the God of self, the God of convenience, the God of selfishness. I mean, it is an ideology that is built on covetousness and wanting what someone else has and then taking what someone else has, which is what communism and socialism are, are so bad that God actually forbade both of those things in the Ten Commandments, the Ten Big Ones, He forbids us from stealing, and he forbids us even from wanting what someone else has. And so when you have an entire ideology that is based on violating at least two of the Ten Commandments, of course, it's going to create chaos. I mean, you could actually argue that it violates all of them, that it puts gods before the one God.

that it breaks apart the family, which makes you violate the command to honor your father and mother, which is actually the first commandment with a promise, so that it may go well with you and you may live long in the land. So obviously, when you have ideologies that are subverting everything that we read, even going back to the very beginning of Genesis 1 and God's creation of male and female, it's going to create chaos. And chaos begets chaos, chaos begets violence. And that, of course, is my number five.

One of the reasons why transgenderism is inherently radicalizing is that sin begets sin. Again, going back all the way to the Garden of Eden. First, we give in to the temptation of Satan that did God really say that if you eat this, you'll die? Satan twists God's words and Eve decides not to trust God. Eve elevates herself above God. She wants to be like God. And then after she gives into that temptation, she takes the bite of the fruit. She then tries to hide from God.

She then tries to shift blame. And so we see that sin begets sin, that delusion begets delusion. Utah governor, Spencer Cox, of course, he's the governor of the state where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He reported that the suspect's friends told investigators that he was involved in very dark interests, that his interests were taking him to very dark places. Friend, this is what I was saying a few minutes ago. Friends of the 22-year-old suspect said that the suspect, who allegedly left a sex-related gaming message on a bullet casing used to kill Charlie Kirk,

used the account named Crafton 247 on multiple gaming and online platforms where he engaged in the fringe furry culture. So this was a part of what he loved. He has another account that he had a, you know, know, a dating simulator called furry shades of gay, describes itself as a game of love, queer relationships, gay sex, all kinds of terrible stuff, according to the Daily Mail. This idea of dressing up as a stuffed animal, and usually it's very childlike. It's usually very cartoon-like. It's literally a, if you have no idea what I'm talking about, like, it's literally

a costume that these people put on that looks like a wolf or looks like a dog. It's got a very distinct look. It's very, yeah, we've got people. Yeah. It's very like anime like and it's very childlike. Like it looks like something. It looks like a stuffed animal that a child would have. And there is absolutely no coincidence. This is probably what? Is this furry con? It's a furry parade. But there's a whole conference that is centered on this. And okay, so I don't have this in my notes, but I just remember this from a few years ago. So there was a furry conference. these adults dressed up like childlike animals, okay? In Florida a few years ago, this was reported by the Rolling Stone.

And the organizers of Furikon were very angry at Ron DeSantis for the law that had just been passed, and I'm forgetting the exact details of it, but we can look it up and you all can look it up, basically saying that children cannot have access to sexual material. And these people at FurryCon were afraid. that that was going to impact them in some way. Now, think about that. Why would that be the case? Now, they will try to gaslight you and say, oh, our furry obsession has nothing to do with sexuality, but of course it does. So that was from Anthrocon. That's, so again, anthropomorphizing animals. But this is according to a study, a 2019 study by Northwestern University of 334 male

furries. They found it 99% reported, quote, some degree of sexual motivation for being furry. So this is bestiality. And it is no coincidence. This is no coincidence that this has significant crossover with pedophilia. It's no significance that this has significant crossover with transgenderism. There is no coincidence. Did I say significance? I meant to say coincidence. Sometimes I can't remember. But it's no coincidence that there's seems to be a very high percentage of pedophiles in communities like this because they're obsessed with porn. They're obsessed with humiliation. They're obsessed with like self infantilization that has to do with that humiliation fetish. Okay. And they want to involve children. They want to

involve innocent women. They want to involve people that they view as weak in their sexual fetishes. And they want to be affirmed by those things. Okay. So when you're obsessed with that kind of submission and humiliation. It does very dark things to your brain. It does very dark things to your motivation. I mean, that's about as dark as it gets. So this is not something just to be like accepted or to be treated with kid gloves. This is this is the problem with live and let live, right? Because eventually you letting live allows these people to infiltrate the spaces and infiltrate the safety and privacy of innocent people. Okay. And obviously it's causing terrorism problem. It's causing a violence problem. So the Guardian tells us a little bit more about the

background of this. Furies are a community of people who embody stylized animal characters. We already know this. But what are the roots? The roots of furry culture go back to underground comics in the 1970s and 80s with a big influence from animated cartoons, especially the 1973 Disney movie, Robin Hood. There's probably some details there that you could look into for why that is. Dr. Samuel Conway puts it like this. Furreys realized that via the computer you could connect with people. You could share companionship, at least in a virtual sense. Boo, whatever. You don't need companionship. Actually, what we really need is we need these people to have no way to find each other. That's what we need, okay? Because this becomes a social contagion. You go to these dark corners of the internet. You get affirmation. You get, you become. obsessed, these people probably have underlying conditions of some kind of, like, if you want to call it, like neurodiversity or atypical like neuro makeup, whether I think a lot of them probably already have autism or Asperger's or some of them have some kind of mental condition that makes real life difficult. And so they retreat into the internet. They finally found something that they are a part of

that makes them feel good and powerful and seen and loved. And then that, I mean, that's really powerful. Feeling accepted and loved and wanted is so powerful. And so they find that and then they just get darker and darker. And I think a lot of these people, like the Trump would be assassin. And then the Charlie Kirk would be assassin. They become so deluded into thinking that they are some kind of hero in these chat rooms that that manifests into real life.

And so, yes, we have a spiritual problem. like it's so underneath the surface, but something that needs to happen is to break up these chat rooms, to make it impossible for these people to find each other, for them to become radicalized through this social contagion. We don't want them to be able to have conferences. We don't want them to be able to have communities like this. We don't want them to be able to have group chats and chat rooms and ways to like make this art because that is radicalizing. It's destabilizing. and it ends up having an effect on real people in the in the real world um so that's like that's part of the problem that's part of the problem there also like we just need to bring back shame and we need to

bring back stigma like we have gone through we've you know it's the same thing with like body positivity and everything else it just went too far like maybe there was a time where we need to say you know less stigma for xy z less shame for X, Y, Z, and more body positivity for the woman who's like a size 10 but is generally healthy. Okay. But then it swung all the way in the other direction, right? To where you are telling women that obesity is perfectly beautiful and healthy when it's obviously not. And telling people that having any kind of sexual deviancy is acceptable and beautiful when it's not. It's actually very harmful to them. And it's harmful to everyone else too. Everyone else has to pay a price for it.

So we need to swing back the other direction and realize that stigma is something that has been passed down to us by wiser generations that have gone before us to give us an indication of not what is not acceptable, but what is not healthy and what is not going to lead to the procreation of a new generation, right? Like there is a reason for stigma. And we should suss out whether or not it's justified, but in this case it is. Like there is a reason for stigma toward any other form of sexuality except for the union between a man and a woman because it is inherently sterilizing and destabilizing for society. Hyper individualism has also led us here.

It's not all about how you feel. It's not all about what you want to be. It's not all about you living authentically. It's like you are a person in the world. And that has to matter too. And you have a responsibility as a human being. to your neighbor, to your community, and to the next generation. So let's see.

The NIH actually has something about freedom. A 2022 study in the archives of sexual behavior aimed to create and test new self-report and picture-based tools to measure sexual interest in animals and to explore what patterns are linked to it. They found that people who identify is zoophilic, so basically beastiality, 35% identified as furies, 72% as zoophilic. 67% were men, 23% were women among the participant's sexual interest. Oh gosh, I don't even know if I can say all of this. Basically, these people are sexually interested in animals.

And it's also been found in an article from Religion News Service in 2022 that the vast majority of furries also identify as as LGBTQ. So it all seems to be intermixed. And, you know, people made fun of us, made fun of Christians back in the day when gay marriage came mainstream and then, of course, was legalized when people said, oh, if we redefine marriage, if we redefine acceptable sexuality as anything other between a man and a woman, that opens the door to everything else. Because if you redefine it beyond this, what actually biologically and reproductively works, well, then there's no limit. If we no longer care about how biology tells us to function and how biology defines male and female, then why do we care about how biology

defines human or defines any form of acceptable sexuality? The slippery slope when it comes to the sexual revolution is totally undefeated. It's not a fallacy. It is a true principle because, again, sin begets sin and it creates more and more delusion. And of course, this has also become a problem among children. The furry problem has been showing up in K through 12 public schools across the United States with reports of furry-like student groups emerging in school districts in Arizona, California, Colorado, Kentucky, and Texas. There was a big, problem in Utah, actually, at a middle school there where students who identified as furries have been seen wearing animal costumes and disrupting class and really kind of taking on this identity.

It's very troubling. Like, where are the parents? Where are the churches? Where are the youth leaders? And I know they're out there. I'm not saying they're not. But, I mean, gosh, these kids need real discipline and mentorship and to be seared in the right direction.

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Okay, so here is the report of that happening at a middle school. Stop five. Okay, so just disturbing there that you have people that are children who are dressing up like this. And we're not just talking about, oh, like it's Halloween, like it's fun. You've got little kids who are dressed up as animals. Okay, that's one thing. But kids who are apparently, allegedly, according to a report, from this middle school and elsewhere actually identifying as these things.

That's obviously a problem. According to the American Enterprise Institute, Democrats, you know, they've decried book banning in school libraries, but they failed to acknowledge that books being removed were actually sexually explicit. According to the Heritage Foundation, 75% of supposedly banned titles and books are still available elsewhere, but they've been removed from school libraries because they're sexually explicit. And you've got a lot of Democrats who are very upset about this. Remember, again, going back to Florida, when Ron DeSantis signed the bill into law that simply said, look, kindergarten through third grade, like you can't talk to kids about

transgenderism. You can't teach them about sexuality. You can't have books. Kindergarten through third grade alone, okay? So like five to nine year olds. freaked out. Disney sued him over this. They were so mad that you couldn't show porn and talk about transgenderism to five to nine-year-olds in schools. I think there was a publisher that sued the state of Florida. You had the American Library Association saying things like public education

needs to be a site of socialist organizing libraries do too. So of course, Marx is all who always use sexual deviancy to recruit their people. And that includes, that includes during school. And because they know that kids' brains are so malleable and that's how they get them early. When we look specifically at pornography and it's linked to violence and it's linked to sexual aggression, this has been well documented for many years. For example, a 2018 paper published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence reported that 88% of scenes in popular pornographic videos depict physical aggression. Wow, almost 90% depict physical aggression. 48% show verbal aggression and 94% of aggressive acts targeted women. So obviously there is something very evil going on here. And people freaked out the other day when I talked about something that Charlie talked about a lot is the damage. of pornography on men, but also it's victimization of women and children because a huge part of pornography is degradation and humiliation and objectification. It doesn't matter if the people

involved are consenting. It still has an effect on objectifying the entirety of the population, but especially women. And again, I think that is the link here, that people who are obsessed with transgenderism, cisification, beastiality, things like that. It is. about the humility or it is about the humiliation rather and it is about the the submission aspect to it these people trying to feel powerful or wanting to be humiliated themselves and you could see how that leads to a form of a form of aggression and violence also we can see that pornography according to a study in the journal of early adolescence leads to less lower aptitude in schools, lower academic outcomes.

There are links to poor mental health that heavy porn use is related to higher depression, anxiety, lower relationship satisfaction in men. It drags down long-term success in men. This is according to a 2023 study in the Journal of Behavioral Addictions. We can also read in a 2025 study from the University of Texas published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine that examined the mental health outcomes and over 107,000 adults with so-called gender dysphoria. And they found that rates of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, substance abuse disorders were significantly higher among transgender people who underwent surgery and were assessed.

two years later and the link here that I'm trying to say is that there's actually so much crossover in the symptoms of people who are addicted to pornography and the symptoms of people who identify as the opposite sex, even those who go through surgery. I actually think that the connection there or that the commonality is there because what is persistent through the transition is an addiction to pornography. Is this kind of depraved fantasy land that they are retreating to, and that is not actually fixed through surgery. I think it would be fixed through, of course, repentance and like the grace of God, but just stopping pornography. I think if pornography went away forever, then rates of transgenderism among men would absolutely plummet. Men, according to

this study, with surgery, had depression rates of 25% compared to males who identifies the opposite sex without surgery at 11.5%. Anxiety rates among that group worth 12.8% compared to 2.6%. And then the same thing among females, high rates of depression who underwent surgery, anxiety rates were very high. Surgeries that aim to feminize individuals showed particularly high rates of depression and substance abuse after two years of the procedures this study found. According to UCLA, more than 40% of transgender adults in the U.S. have attempted suicide. And again, this is not due to people not affirming them. This is because they are in distress with their body due to what I think is actually sexual depravity, not believing that

they are born in the wrong body. All of this distress, the pornography addiction, the sexual deviancy, the retreating to bestiality and other forms of very dark depravity, I think is what is contributing to their violence. There is a reason why. we look at school shootings like the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting this year, Iowa school shooting in 2024, Nashville Christian school shooting in 2023, Colorado Springs Gay Bar shooting 2022, Highlands Ranch, Colorado School Shooting in 2019, Aberdeen, Maryland Warehouse shooting in 2018, that all of these people, all of these suspects allegedly identified as transgender. Now if this is such a small portion of the population, it's like really weird

and coincidental, right, that all of, that they seem to be responsible for so much violence. I think also, if I remember correctly, the person who tried to assassinate Brett Cavanagh, it was just found out, if maybe we could fact check this, that it was just found out that this person was also identifying as transgender. Like, this is a huge problem. So the fact that we have someone like Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, tweeting this, that the transgender, this transgender awareness week, we celebrate the resilience, courage, and beauty of the trans community. Your lives matter.

Your stories matter. And your right to thrive and exist authentically as non-negotiable. We stand with you today and every day. Okay. Actually, you know what? I'm going to play this, this video that I found of Haley Bieber, who I thought was a, like, I thought that she was a Christian saying this about transgenderism. they're trying to be mean.

They're like, she looks trans. And I'm like, why do you think that's a dis? Wait, totally. As if being like trans is a dis? Totally. Some of the most beautiful women in the world and men in the world are trans. So I just don't take that offensively at all. Like, why are we treating this as if this is normal and not actually like a very big deal in

society? Am I saying that everyone who identifies as transgender is violent? No. But I'm saying that it's disproportionate. And that's a problem. And we should be thinking a little more. critically, if we love our neighbors, if we love our neighbor who identifies as transgender, if we love our neighbor who is possibly a victim of this violence, then we should be speaking

very clearly about this. And by the way, if you're a Christian, like, forget all of these statistics. Just go to Genesis 1-27. God knew we might forget about this and get confused, so he said, I don't even need to make you read 30 verses. Just read 27 verses in, and you'll see that in the beginning God made them male and female in his image he created them male and female he created them. Right there, he repeats it. We see it repeated by Jesus in Matthew 19, 4 through 5. Have you not read that He who made them in the beginning made them male and female and then defines marriage as the man leaving his father and mother and holding fast to his wife and the two becoming one flesh? So we see this reiterated by Jesus. It's not a question. It's not nuanced. It's not possible

to be born in the wrong body. It's not possible to be a man who is actually a woman. It's not possible to be a girl that is actually man. It's not possible. It is something that is wrong with the mind that goes very deep into a spiritual problem that Christians have to love people enough to be able to speak the truth about. And if your empathy is leading you in the direction of affirming sin or supporting destructive policies, what has your empathy become? It has become toxic. Christians are called you the truth in love. First Corinthians 13, 6. We never rejoice in wrongdoing. Love doesn't rejoice in wrongdoing. It doesn't rejoice in sin. It rejoices with the truth. Rejoice with the truth. Christian, when it comes to gender, it can literally save someone's life. And I'll talk more about that in a second. Let me go ahead before we get into what scripture says about this. Let me tell you about our last sponsor for the day. It's an important one. Constitution wealth. Constitution wealth is merging with Worth Point Wealth Management. So let me give you an update on what's going on. If you are already,

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including the risk of loss. This is a paid endorsement, and I am not a client of the firm. So what we can see from the beginning, and even though we are not bound to all of the laws of the Old Testament, we can look at the principles of the laws behind the Old Testament, and we can see God's wisdom. Leviticus 2013, if a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them. And of course, that's not just, that's not the only place where we get our prohibition against homosexuality. What do we always say? Rooted in creation. The verse we just referenced in Genesis reiterated throughout scripture, like honor your father and mother, repeated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19,

four through five, representative of Christ and the church, Ephesians, five, and reflective of the gospel. The Bible starts with the marriage, marriage, marriage between Adam and Eve, and the marriage between Christ and his bride, the church. And so earthly marriage is defined between one man and one woman is so important that it is reflective of an eternal spiritual reality, the marriage between Christ and his church. We also read prohibition, very good and wise prohibition in Leviticus, 2015 through 16 against beastiality. If a man lies with an animal,

he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them. You know what's interesting is that I always see people on the left who identify as Christians,

and they want to say, oh, they nitpick Leviticus, and they look at the original Hebrew, and they say, oh, you know, this is not actually prohibited. This was for some special reason. and they just wanted to keep the numbers up in the tribe of Israel. So that's why they had prohibited homosexuality.

Actually, it's accepted today. Do they, are they making the same argument against the ban on bestiality? Because if you're saying basically any sexuality goes and there were very specific, culture specific, time specific reasons to ban homosexuality back in the Old Testament, are you also making the same argument about bestiality? Now, maybe some are, but I haven't seen the more mainstream, so-called progressive Christians do that. but that would be a good question for them. That'd be a good question.

Like, do you also think that that's acceptable? And if not, why not? While the words transgender and non-binary obviously don't appear in scripture, we know Genesis 127, we even see a prohibition on a woman cross-dressing or a man cross-dressing in Deuteronomy 22, 5. Another thing that you see people saying a lot is, you know, transgenderism, homosexuality is not a sin. they just dismiss kind of Old Testament as just old covenant and that doesn't apply to us or they

might say, oh, well, that Greek word is different in the New Testament, but they don't have anything to say about God very clearly laying out what exactly is prohibited in Christian sexuality. Romans 1 24 through 27, therefore God gave them up in the lust of their hearts to impurity to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves because they exchanged the truth of God for a and worshipped and served the creature rather than the creator who was blessed forever. Amen. Goes on to say that God gave them up two dishonorable passions. Women exchanged the natural relations with men. For relations with women, men did the same thing. They received within themselves the due penalty for their error. That could be interpreted a variety of ways. But then it goes on

to say that their sexual confusion, the women becoming like men in their sexuality, the men becoming like women in their sexuality actually gave them over to a depraved mind in all ways that they were filled with unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, and malice, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness, gossip, slanders, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, invaders of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless, they knew God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die. But they give approval to those who practice them as well. And so we can see that many times this kind of sexual depravity also leads to all other

kinds of sin. Again, not saying that everyone who identifies as gay or LGBTQ is also guilty of all of those things, but this is just the nature of sin and denying the reality of our bodies. Second Corinthians 4-4, I think, is relevant. In their case, the God of this world has blinded the mind of unbelievers to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, to as the image of God. There really is a blindness. It's so important for all of us, no matter how you identify, but as Christians to honor God with our bodies. As Christians, it's a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 5-5 through 6 also reminds us, for you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous, that is an idolater.

Again, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Sexual immorality and idolatry are so often listed together as things that God hates in Scripture. has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words. For because of these things, the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. In the book of Jude, they'll say that Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuality, but the book of Jude makes very clear that it actually does, that that is why God's wrath was poured out on Sodom and Gomorrah and in 2.6.

If by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes, he condemn them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly. God takes sexual morality very, very seriously. For the Christian, this is what we are called to. Romans 12, too, don't be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good, acceptable, and perfect. Scripture is totally clear. God's specific judgment for persistent, unrepentant sexual perversion and the violence

it sponsors are this immediate destruction, death under the law, being handed over to ever-deepening, depravity in this life, loss of inheritance in the kingdom of God, eternal fire second death. So we don't live in a theocracy. We're not called to build a theocracy like of implementing all Old Testament law to today, but we can see in principle that God really hates this kind of sin. And if we love our neighbors and if God is love, then a way to love our neighbors is to call out this sin as clearly as we can, to do everything we can to protect sheep from going to the slaughter. And yes, in policy, protect minds and hearts from this kind of depravity that really has a chaotic and violent effect on all kinds of victims, both the people who consume it. And then the people who are victimized by those who consume it.

Philippians 4 also reminds us to only focus on that, which is lovely and excellent and praiseworthy, that's Philippians 4 through 8, that what we fill our minds with really matters. Ephesians also reminds us, don't be drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but we filled with the spirit. And while we're not talking about drunkenness here, we can see the principle throughout all of this that whatever fills you controls you, whatever you are filling your body with, whatever you are filling your mind with, whatever you fill your heart with is going to control you. The Holy Spirit should be controlling us as Christians. And we want him to be able to compel us completely uninhibited. But whatever we fill our mind with is going to determine the direction of our thoughts, which of course leads to our words and actions, which has a real effect on our neighbors.

Okay. So that is the clarity that I wanted to give us today to remind us and to renew us in our efforts and speaking the truth in love and to be a bastion of clarity and courage to a very confused and chaotic world. On Friday, we are going to be talking about the Nigerian genocide with someone who knows firsthand what is really going on there. There's been a lot of mixed messages about what's going on in Nigeria, who's at fault and who is being victimized. We're going to bring it all to you on Friday. We'll be back here then.