Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1273 | Autism Fraud, Islamic Corruption & a Crucial Tennessee Election

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Allie confronts toxic empathy head-on by addressing the recent "hit pieces" by Axios and Salon in which she is portrayed as a "cold-hearted" woman fueling MAGA's war. She uncovers the atrocious shooti...ng of National Guard soldiers in Washington, D.C., allegedly by an Afghan refugee; Minnesota's Somali welfare corruption scandals; Trump's vow to vet all immigrants; Silicon Valley wives bankrolling progressivism; and Tennessee's December 2 election between Republican Matt Van Epps and radical Aftyn Behn. Biblical love demands truth, not delusion. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (06:00) Addressing Recent "Hit Pieces" (21:30) D.C. Attack on Service Members (27:30) Who is the Afgan Suspect? (35:50) Illegal Criminals (41:50) Importance of Vetting Immigrants (50:50) Minnesota's Corruption (59:45) Interview with Nicole Shanahan (01:05:00) Upcoming Election in Tennessee --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Give a reason to gather. Visit ⁠goodranchers.com⁠ to start gifting, and while you’re there, treat yourself with your own subscription to America’s best meat. And when you use the code ALLIE, you’ll get $40 off your first order. Fellowship Home Loans — Visit  ⁠⁠fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie⁠ and start with a free consultation. You’ll even get a $500 credit at closing. Terms apply. See site for details. We Heart Nutrition — Go to ⁠⁠⁠weheartnutrition.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn how their products always use the most bioavailable, research-backed forms while also prioritizing ingredients from nature, from the world God created. Use the code ALLIE for 20% off! Crowd Health — Visit ⁠⁠⁠joincrowdhealth.com⁠⁠⁠ and get started today for $99 for your first three months, using the code ALLIE.  PreBorn — Would you consider a gift to save babies in a big way? Your gift of five, ten or fifteen thousand will be used to save countless babies for years to come. To donate, dial #250 & say the keyword BABY or donate securely at ⁠preborn.com/allie⁠. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 1270 | Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria? | Judd Saul ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000737836595⁠ Ep 1159 | Nicole Shanahan on Christianity, Vaccines & the Lies of Leftism ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1159-nicole-shanahan-on-christianity-vaccines-the/id1359249098?i=1000700656721⁠ Ep 1077 | No, Tim Walz. Jesus Doesn’t Support Illegal Immigration | Guest: Josh Hammer ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1077-no-tim-walz-jesus-doesnt-support-illegal-immigration/id1359249098?i=1000671593142⁠ Ep 909 | The Left Is Falling in Love with Osama bin Laden | Guest: James Lindsay ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-909-the-left-is-falling-in-love-with-osama-bin/id1359249098?i=1000635088760⁠ --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.alliebethstuckey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise: Use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Starting point is 00:01:24 It's brought to by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code alia. check out that's good ranchers.com code alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day so far that your week is off to a great start. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. We had a nice little break over in Relatable Land. We did have two new episodes come out, but we recorded those before the holiday week. And so we got to take a good break. We're feeling rejuvenated. And we have so much to talk about. As ever, God's eternal plan of
Starting point is 00:02:06 redemption is going off without a hitch. I reminded you of this on Thanksgiving on Instagram and X because gosh, the news feels dark and we're going to get into some of that today. So important for us to understand and to navigate and to push back against the darkness as Christians and especially as moms raising kids in this very often scary world. But it's important to remember that this is our father's world, that we should never forget that though the wrong seems off so strong, he is the ruler yet. As you guys know, that's my first. favorite him. I have to remind myself so often of God's sovereignty, whatever is going on with you personally, whatever is going on politically, whatever is going on in your life professionally,
Starting point is 00:02:48 whatever is going on anywhere. God is never surprised by it. He's never taken aback by it. And Romans 8 reminds us that he works all things, that's all things together for the good of those who love him, who are called according to his purpose. So even the things that we do not understand, even all of the things that seem completely hopeless and void of any benefit. God even works those things together for good and ultimately he will win. One day there will be no more confusion, no more chaos, no more sin, no more gender confusion, no more deception, no more propaganda, no more abortion, no more murder, no more violence, and Jesus will rule in perfect peace.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We have that to look forward to. But we are here in this now, in this present temporal moment. We are placed here by a God who does nothing arbitrarily. And our purpose, of course, is to glorify God. But that means in our lives, both in big and small ways, in private and in public ways, pushing back against the darkness, confronting the lies of this world with truth. And very often the lies of this world don't look like lies. They don't look like evil. They don't look like objective wickedness. But just like Satan who disguises himself as an angel of light, lies sound good. Destruction sounds good. Danger both to ourselves, to our communities, to our country, sometimes actually looks like
Starting point is 00:04:22 empathy. And you see, the media is very angry. Again, still, maybe still. Again, I'm not sure. the book toxic empathy that I wrote came out in October 2024. And I feel like actually the anger and the eye are just around the title and the premise of the book has only grown stronger. It seems like every month there is some new article by some journalist who feels that they are uncovering my book, toxic empathy, and that they have found this trend that's happening on the right. But as I said, of course, this is not new. and before I wrote the book, before by the grace of God, it became a New York Times bestseller, I was talking about this. And I'm not the only one. People have been talking about the weaponization
Starting point is 00:05:09 of compassion in different realms for quite a while. Paul Bloom was, is a Yale psychologist coming from a secular perspective who wrote, I believe back in 2016, a book called Against Empathy. And from his professional and scholarly perspective, a hyper fixation on empathy actually makes people more cruel to the outgroup. And in the name of protecting a perceived victim actually is extremely exclusive and unfeeling and calloused towards those that are perceived to be against this perceived victim. And so my book, from a Christian perspective, simply spoke about the truth. truth that the progressive media and progressive politicians and activists capitalize upon Christian compassion and manipulate our sincere desire to be loving and kind to convince us to to support progressive policies that ultimately are really bad for our country,
Starting point is 00:06:16 for ourselves, for the very people that the media claims to want to help that is true when it comes to abortion. It's true when it comes to immigration. It's true when it comes to gender. It's true when it comes to sexuality and sexual identity. It's true when it comes to crime. It's true when it comes to COVID. It's true when it comes to climate. The argument is if you do not latch on to the progressive perspective on these things, you are a bad person and you hate your neighbor. But it's not true. It's a lie. Their policies actually have deleterious outcomes. But Axios feels that they are highlighting this, I guess, in a novel way. There was an article that came out yesterday by a journalist named Russell Contreras.
Starting point is 00:07:08 He wrote Empathy is the new Christian Battleground. And there's nothing much wrong with this article, I will say. It's pretty straightforward. He talks about some other people who have been speaking about this, namely Elon Musk, who is on Joe Rogan's podcast. Pastor Joe Rigney, he also wrote a book about this subject that came out a little bit after mine. And then he quotes me, I spoke on Dr. James Dobson's family talk podcast in 2024. And I said, empathy hoisted up as the highest virtue or even a virtue at all gets us into a really big mess,
Starting point is 00:07:48 which, of course, is absolutely. true because empathy is powerful. And my argument is, and has always been that it can lead you in a good direction or it can lead you in a bad direction. It can lead you towards kindness and love, although it's not kindness and love in its own, or it can lead you to supporting stupid policies and stupid positions. It can lead you to affirming sin. It can lead you to validate lies and it can lead you to support destructive policies. And I believe when it comes to progressive policies, that's exactly what it's done. And this article quotes some other people who have another perspective on empathy, for example, a Catholic priest, Brandon Booth says in the Christian tradition,
Starting point is 00:08:34 to have anybody argue that a spirit of empathy is somehow a vulnerability is insane. That's actually a perfect way to put it. Putting empathy first is a vulnerability. It makes you vulnerable to lies. you vulnerable to stupidity because you think that you are supporting these things in the name of love, but really it's just because you feel so deeply how a person feels, which is not the same as love. God gets to define love and he does. In 1 Corinthians 136, love among other things, never rejoices in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. That means that love defined by the God who is love, 1 John 4, 8, is inextricably intertwined with the truth. So you can't actually love someone and tell them that they were born in the wrong body. That's a lot. You can't love someone and call a man a woman or a boy she. You can't love someone
Starting point is 00:09:23 and advocate for the murder of an innocent baby inside the womb. You can't love someone and support open borders, which leads to chaos both for the countries of origin and our country here. You can't love someone and support the soft on crime policies that lead to more death and danger. You can't love someone and deny a child their right to their mother and and father by redefining marriage. You can't love someone by supporting sin and telling people lies. It's just not possible. You can feel empathy for them and support lies, but you can't truly love them.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And Christians aren't just called to empathy. We are called to love no matter how we feel about someone. But, you know, Salon Magazine, which is a far-left extreme outlet that says all this ridiculous stuff. In fact, I will read you some headlines in just a minute from this author named Amanda, who wrote an article about me. And it's called Maga's War on Empathy was started by a woman. Ali Beth Stuckey weaponizes her gender to sell the idea of a cold-hearted Jesus. Okay, so she talks about how Elon Musk and Gad's sad have talked about this, what they call suicidal empathy.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Elon Musk said the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy. And yes, that is true, because we are fundamentally, whether we acknowledge it or not a Christian nation, but as we've become less Christian and trying to hold onto Christian values, we've perverted them. So we've let go of this truth and love dichotomy that we are actually called to, that Jesus embodied himself. And we've taken on this like superficial form of feeling, which is empathy. I mean, it's the same thing. Like we want to hold on to the generosity that Christians are called to,
Starting point is 00:11:14 but we don't want to do the hard thing of actually voluntarily emptying out our pockets. And so we support a welfare state. And we call that Christian love. But again, that's just a perversion of Christian love. And it's the same thing with toxic empathy. But this woman is especially mad that I am a woman talking about this. She says, Fundamentalist Christian Influencer. I would love for all of these people to define their terms.
Starting point is 00:11:41 what is fundamentalist? What does that mean? Allie Bessack, he doesn't see empathy as a failure of evolution because I guess Gadsad and others do as a creationist who denies the scientific reality of prehistoric dinosaurs. Now Amanda, what a girl who denies the existence of prehistoric dinosaurs have a daddy longneck right there? Does that sound like me, Amanda? And a stegosaurus right there. And a triceratops, also known as baby bop, right there. Amanda, seriously, you've gotten this wrong. Dinosaurs are, there are mascot here at relatable because we believe in them so much. I believe in them more than I believe in Santa Claus saying, ho, ho, ho. I believe in dinosaurs because everyone knows that when you see a bone in the ground,
Starting point is 00:12:40 you just know that a pterodactyl sounds like, you can just tell. You just know it. You can see it. That's just how it works, okay? And you know that they have purple and blue scales and little short arms and ran really fast. It's just obvious, Amanda.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Why would anyone question that? But just for some homework, you should look up the skeleton of a hippo or a monkey or a chicken. And you should just tell me what you think that looks like. But I don't know why you would even say this. We would have never, ever, ever denied the scientific reality of prehistoric dinosaurs. I love them so much because I know that they all looked like Barney. Okay, we've got more to get into Amanda in just a second.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And we've got so much else to talk about today when it comes to toxic empathy. but I found this hip piece in my lap this morning and I had to talk about it. Let me pause. I'll tell you out our first sponsor for the day. And that is, of course, we heart nutrition. I love we heart nutrition. It gives me the energy to talk about dinosaurs because I've got my immunity supplement that I've been taking that I think has kept my cold at bay for a long time.
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Starting point is 00:15:03 She already came for the dinosaurs. But now she says this. Relatable is a try hard name. Actually, I did not try hard to come up with it, if that helps at all. It's, it is relatable. It's relatable to thousands of women, thankfully hundreds of thousands of women. And she does say somewhere that this relatable, that this podcast is only talking to men, which is hilarious because I could show her some numbers. It is like 95% women. And that's why we had 7,000 women show up in Dallas, Texas. So it's just a couple months ago. This is a women's podcast. Just maybe not for Amanda yet. But I don't know. God could save her. The logo's font, relatable, is straight out of mid-century woman's magazine.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I didn't even try to do that. Alexander, the designer of this? Did you do that on purpose? Stucky has soft, blonde hair. Okay. Fact tech, true. And favors pastels in her clothing and decor. Now, this is just, that's just hate speech.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Anyone who knows me knows that I am an autumn. I do not wear pastels. My background is black. This is chocolate brown. White is not a pastel. But I do just want to point out because you guys can't see this when you see my set that I have this cross stitch right here, one of my prized possessions that we put up in our set that says pastel hate influencer.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Now pastel hate influencer is some really. relatable lore that comes from this tweet from three years ago from a man who believes that he's a woman, who writes for media matters, who said pastel hate influencer, Ali Bestucky, shared a list of alternate words instead of groomer to hurl at LGBTQ people on Twitter with her listeners today, doubling down on maliciously portraying queer people as a threat to children. No, no, no, no, no, not queer people, just pedophiles. That's it. I was actually talking just about people who groomed children.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I think it's weird that you conflated those two things. But the link was to an article for Media Matters. And Media Matters said in 2022, Stucky's bright pink Twitter header, Instagramable set decorations, that's more like it. Thank you. And aesthetic podcast apparel are in stark relief against the backdrop of the virulently anti-LGB rhetoric that fuels her extremist right-wing worldview. Okay, so these people, so that's where this comes from,
Starting point is 00:17:34 this beautiful cross stitch right here. Pastel hate influencer. Again, no pastels. But these people have a hard time with the aesthetic. I guess they believe that I don't know. It's supposed to be harsh that it's supposed I'm supposed to look like Biden did a couple years ago with the like red light backdrop behind him. I'm not really sure what they think that I should be communicating with my aesthetic. Like even Cosmo in July 2025 said, started this article saying in the recording studio, Ali Beth Stuckey sits on a cream sofa, her blonde hair perfectly tousled. She leans into the microphone and speaks. I'm loving the hair descriptions.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I'm loving that they are pointing those things out as something that is actually nefarious. Later in this article, she says I have fascistic views. somehow believing in free speech, believing that you shouldn't die for preaching the gospel or saying things that are true the way that my friend Charlie Kirk did, like believing that people should have freedom of religious expression. Believing that men can't be women, believing that women shouldn't be slaughtered inside the womb, believing that parents have a right to raise and protect their child and that the child doesn't belong to the school or to the state.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I guess those are fascistic beliefs, but I'm sure that this woman, Amanda, is a bastion of liberty and courage. And I took a screenshot of some of the other articles that she's written, why J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk's hug made tongues wag gross. Ushah Vance doesn't do dishes. So why the wedding ring excuse? This is just kind of who she has.
Starting point is 00:19:23 She has like a real problem with women who, who don't fall in line with her extremist, progressive, pro-baby killing, pro-men in girls' bathrooms ideology. And she's really angry that someone like me who represents a huge demographic of Christian women exist. She's like very, very bothered by it. And so she wants you to think that this feminine aesthetic is a cover for something actually nefarious. And I hate to break it to her and all of these people. that have such a hard time with this, but it's just genuine. I really am just a wife and a mom trying to navigate the craziness of this world,
Starting point is 00:20:05 which is with as much clarity as the Bible gives me as I can possibly muster. And thankfully, there are so many of you who do relate to it. And not everyone has to agree with us, of course, that's just going to be, that's just reality. but when you have someone who is so darkened in their understanding whose heart is so hard, you just have to pray for them. You really do. And I think Amanda would probably hate it if we all prayed for her, but we should. And I don't mean that sarcastically. I don't mean that tritely at all. Like I genuinely mean that. Not pray that she would start listening to Relatable and become a related girl. By the way, I think I like that better than Related gal. I think I'm going to test
Starting point is 00:20:48 that out. But that truly Jesus would save her. Like if you look at the writings that she has, She is actually the one that is like very angry, very resentful, very bitter, very deeply disturbed. And like, let's just pray that Jesus like frees her from that and softens her heart towards the truth. That's the best thing that we can do. And actually that's what Jesus asks us to do for our enemies. It's easy to pray for our friends. It's easy to love our friends. But it's much harder to be kind to and pray for and truly want the best for people who position themselves as our enemies.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So let's pray for these people. Let's pray for the people at Media Matters, the people at Cosmo, the people at Salon, they really, really need it, truly. Okay. The truth is, though, is that we are over the target. That is why this is happening. We are over the target when it comes to toxic empathy. Progressives don't want us to talk about this because this is the sharpest sword that they have in their weaponry. Like, this is the best tool they have in their toolkit.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's not facts, it's not data, it's not persuasive debate tactics. We know that. That's not the case. It is the weaponization of your empathy for the purpose of carrying out their causes. And that is exactly what is behind all of the chaos that centers on Muslim migration and violent crime that has really, really hurt our country and has hurt our community. So we're going to talk about some of that. And we're going to get into an election that's happening in Tennessee that also has to do with toxic empathy. So I want to talk about this horrific story of the National Guard soldiers. What does this have to do with toxic empathy? We'll get into that. But first, let me tell you what happened. Two West Virginia National Guard soldiers that were deployed to Washington, D.C., and Trump's crackdown on crime were shot by an Afghan national on Wednesday, November 26. So right before Thanksgiving, This was 20-year-old Sarah Berkstrom, who died the following day. Just so awful.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Her dad posted about this, just missing his little girl. Absolutely devastating. And 24-year-old Andrew Wolfe, who was in critical condition and fighting for his life. So everyone, please pray for Andrew Wolf. We've put his picture up there. That is according to West Virginia Representative Riley Moore, that he is still in critical condition. So please pray for him. pray for Sarah's family, pray for his family.
Starting point is 00:23:19 According to law enforcement source, the suspect allegedly shouted Ola Hu Akbar before firing at the victims. This is according to journalist Julio Rosas. The suspect was injured when other National Guard soldiers returned fire. He was immediately taken into custody, transported to a hospital. Yeah, there's this picture of him. He's like almost naked on the stretcher, just so, the whole thing just so awful. We don't know about his medical condition. Honestly, I hope he lives
Starting point is 00:23:52 for a couple reasons. I want him to repent and to know Jesus because eternity is a really long time to spend in hell. And I also want justice to be carried out. Like death at like in this way and a comfortable hospital bed would be a mercy. And of course the state needs to pursue the death penalty and that should be carried out very quickly. That's how we used to do things. We used to execute proven murders very quickly that is actually mercy and that is actually justice. The only reason that the death penalty, quote unquote, doesn't work in deterring crime, which I don't even know necessarily if that's true, is because we don't do it quickly enough. We do it way too arbitrarily. There is no confidence that any killer has that they are
Starting point is 00:24:41 going to be executed. They're probably going to be executed. They're probably going to to get a climate-controlled cell with three square meals and exercise and hobbies for the next 50 years. And so it's just not worth it for them to not carry out the murder that they want to carry out. We need to make the cost of murdering someone really high. Duh. I shouldn't have to be arguing for that on a podcast. Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noam said the shooter may have been radicalized actually not in Afghanistan, but here in the U.S. Here's Kristi Noam saying that. this individual when they came into the country, we know he was unvetted. He was brought into the country by the Biden administration through Operation Allies Welcome, and then maybe vetted after that,
Starting point is 00:25:24 but not done well based on what the guidelines were put forward by President Biden. And now, since he's been here, we believe he could have been radicalized in his home community and in his home state. So as we continue to talk to his family and his contacts, more details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate. But this is something that for these individuals, when they're brought into our country, it's a dangerous situation. If you don't know who they are, if they're coming from a country that's not stable and doesn't have a government that can help you vet them, that we shouldn't allow it. So let's talk about why the shooter is here in the first place. How did this person who is not a citizen who is from Afghanistan, a military-aged male,
Starting point is 00:26:07 who obviously has very extremist beliefs and violent tendencies, why is he here? in our nation's capital. Well, we got to go back all the way to 2021 when Joe Biden was president to understand that. Let me pause before we get into that and tell you about my next sponsor for the day. It is good ranchers. Good ranchers is exactly what you need for this holiday season. We want to make sure that we are making it a good end of year for American farmers and ranchers. They just have such a hard time because of the regulations that have been put in place by so many different administration.
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Starting point is 00:28:22 President Biden immediately blamed the collapse on Donald Trump and Donald Trump's foreign policy. Of course, Trump was not president at that time. $7 billion of military equipment the U.S. gave to the Afghan government was left behind and ended up in the hands of the Taliban, which, of course, could very easily be used against us and our allies. Biden ordered the Department of Homeland Security to bring in vulnerable Afghans who worked with various U.S. government entities, including the CIA. So this suspect apparently had worked with the CIA in Afghanistan, and that's how he was able to come over here in this program that's called Operation Allies Welcome. It granted Afghans 2-year humanitarian parole with no permanent immigration status. Now, you might be wondering, okay, but it's 2023, or it would have been 2023 when the
Starting point is 00:29:13 that expired. So why in 2025 is this person still here? Well, after roughly one year, OAW, that is the Operation Allies Welcome, transition into the longer term operation enduring welcome combined. The two programs resettled almost 200,000 Afghans in the U.S. Now, hopefully all of these people from Afghanistan were well vetted, right? Probably not. A 2024 DHS Inspector General Report confirmed data inaccuracies in some evacue files. Every person who came in under this program is supposed to have something called an A number or an alien number. But this report found at least one occasion of two different individuals sharing the same A number or there were multiple alien numbers assigned to one individual.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Another example that was highlighted, ICE records had two. two different spellings for an OAW parolee's name with a different A number assigned to each spelling. We have no idea how often that happened. There was simply just no way to track these people or to even know their background because to do a background check, you have to at least somewhat rely on Afghanistan and their officials to tell us the truth about these people. Can we rely on our enemies? No. A June 2025 DOJ report stated the need to immediately evacuate Afghans overtook the normal processes required to determine whether individuals attempting to enter the United States pose a threat to national security, which increased the risk that bad actors could try to exploit
Starting point is 00:30:53 the expedited evacuation. And of course, that is always what we are weighing. I understand the argument that, look, these people helped us over there. So we should try to prioritize getting them to safety. Okay, that may be a priority, but it's got to be weighed against the safety and security of the people that you actually are tasked to govern, whose interest in well-being should come first. That is the righteous responsibility of any government to put the well-being, the security, and the interests of its own people first. Well, in this case, they decided that these people that we are not actually tasked to govern are more important. Their security is more important than the security of American citizens. We see that trade-off happening over and over
Starting point is 00:31:37 again, especially when a Democrat is in office. The same report that we were just talking about revealed that 55 OAW evacuees were later identified on U.S. terrorism watch lists. It's exciting. That's great. So this particular suspect had been living in Washington, had no prior criminal, Washington state, had no prior criminal record. The suspect's government filed claim to the underwent biometric and biographic screening, apparently didn't have any disqualification. information in his background. Now, it is important because you're going to see people say this. He applied for asylum in December 2024 and was granted it on April 23rd, 2025. Okay. So this is three months into
Starting point is 00:32:25 the Trump administration. So the Trump administration has got to figure out how exactly this happened, why this person was granted asylum. Now, if it's true that he didn't have anything in his background and he was trying to go through legal means. That's not necessarily nefarious that he was granted asylum. People do have the legal ability to do that and that's fine. But it is important to note that part of this happened under the Trump administration. Leaked emails even show that refugee agencies and state services were actually warned that the suspect had been spiraling into mania since March of 2023. But no effective action, uh, no. No, effective action. Uh, No effective action was taken before the attack.
Starting point is 00:33:11 This is according to the New York Post. Now, why did the people in the Trump administration or the people who are responsible for this, they may not have been hired by Trump at all, of granting him asylum? Like, why did they not know that a neighbor had repeatedly contacted the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, USCRI, claiming that the suspect had become not functional as a person, a father or provider, that he had been abandoning his family, that his children were seemingly abandoned, that he would take the car and just abandon everyone
Starting point is 00:33:43 for days and weeks on end. These organizations who were supposed to be kind of like vetting and tracking these refugees, they didn't do their job. They did nothing. So as almost always, there were signs. There were signs. And the people who were responsible for noting these signs
Starting point is 00:34:03 and taking them to the right people, they didn't do their job. Now, was it incompetence? Was it malice? Was it political ideology? Was it toxic empathy? That organizations like this just ignore the danger that some migrants and some refugees bring to the country, it's probably a combination. It's really easy to just believe kind of the emotional rhetoric that, well, we're helping refugees. We're helping people who are in harm's way. We're helping allies. Everyone wants that. I want that. And I think it's okay, of course. It's good to have that kind of compassion, but we have to be more thoughtful than that. Every policy, every decision that is made by people in power is a trade-off. Every single one, whether it's COVID policy or anything else, you're asking, what are the benefits? What are the risk? Who is this harming? Who is this helping? What outweighs what? And when it comes to this,
Starting point is 00:35:05 The risks outweighed the benefits for the American people. So here are some other crimes committed by resettling Afghans. Two Afghan nationals were charged with plotting an ISIS-inspired attack to disrupt the 2024 election in Oklahoma City. Another Afghan evacuee was arrested in Texas for posting a TikTok video featuring bomb instructions that happened very recently. He said he was going to blow up a building in Fort Worth. There was an attempted sexual act with a minor, assaulted multiple minors at base,
Starting point is 00:35:34 at base charged federally to eight years in prison, according to the DOJ. There was also, according to the Washington Times, a rape of an 18-year-old woman in a Montana hotel by an Afghan national. Domestic assaults threatened to this man threatened to send his wife back to the Taliban. Multiple domestic violence and child assault cases at bases. Some charges reduced to misdemeanors according to Fox News. And I know people are going to say, well, you know, this is not just this group. You're just demonizing this group because they don't look like you or whatever that, you know, American citizens and white people and they commit crimes. Of course, people of all nationality, citizenship statuses and skin colors commit crimes. That's not the point. The point is
Starting point is 00:36:22 that these people aren't supposed to be here. And we do already have homegrown criminals. Why would we add to our criminal statistics by bringing people in who should not be here. Let's deal with the crimes that are committed by citizens. We have a method to dealing with those crimes, but crimes who are committed by people who should not be here in the first place that is absolutely preventable. Those are preventable assault cases, preventable murder, preventable child rapes. And we are allowing them in the name of just, oh, it's empathetic in kind, empathetic to whom, to the military aged men that are coming in here and raping children and murdering national guards men and women?
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's certainly not empathetic to the victim, says the problem with empathy is that it has the ability to blind you to both reality and morality. It has you focus so much on one side of the moral equation that you ignore the other one. You have so much empathy for the person born in the wrong body that you ignore the rights and the privacy of girls and women. You have so much empathy for the plight of the pregnant mother that you forget that abortion butchers the child inside the womb. you have so much empathy for this illegal migrate coming from violence in Honduras that you have
Starting point is 00:37:34 no empathy and no thought about Kate Steinley or Molly Tibbitt or all of the victims of these preventable crimes committed by illegal aliens or people who should have never been allowed in legally in the first place. That's the problem. But if you think through this truth and love dichotomy, then you're thinking, what is factually true? what is scientifically true what is historically true what is historically true what are the tradeoffs what is biblically true most importantly and how can i love this individual while still upholding what is true and what is right for my country for my community and for my family it's possible to do that
Starting point is 00:38:17 empathy is actually the easy way out because you don't have to deal with the consequences of toxic empathy if you're rich enough and that's exactly why of course most Afghan nationals were resettled to Houston, San Diego, Sacramento, San Antonio, and Denver, and not to D.C. Where all of these politicians who decided this live. We've got a little bit more on this. Let me pause, tell you about our next sponsor. It is crowd health. All right.
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Starting point is 00:40:01 migrants will be deported because there's no way to properly vet them. Here's what he said, Sot 1. There's no way to clearly vet these people, you know, 100% that they're safe to come in this country from these third world nations. President Trump's doing the right thing, reviewing every one of these people who came under Biden administration and drilling down on them. I really truly think that most of them are going to end up being deported because we're not going to be able to properly vet them.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Okay, well, let's get to it. let's get to it like let's go ahead and get it done like i know you see a lot of people and a lot of your friends who are totally incensed about this and they believe all of the lies that citizens are being rounded up because they look brown or being deported to Mexico that is not something that is happening that's not something that's happening and obama deported more people than trump has and biden also deported over a million people did you hear about ICE raids under Biden. Did you hear about ice raids under Obama? Did you hear about kids in cages under any of these administration, uh, administrations, even though that was happening if you want to
Starting point is 00:41:12 call these detention centers cages? Like, did you hear about all of the lost children who were abandoned and not accounted for under these administrations? Did you hear about the sex trafficking, the human trafficking, the drug and weaponry trafficking that was happening under these administrations, no. It's not because it wasn't happening. It's because the media is in bed with the Democrats and they don't want you to see the Democrats doing things that they are criticizing Donald Trump for. Like you see that, right? That's, again, how the weaponization of empathy works. There's a reason why you read a story about abortion. You only get the perspective of the mother. Not that the mother doesn't matter, but again, her comfort and her desire to have an abortion
Starting point is 00:41:55 has to be weighed against the life and the rights of that child who is about. to be murdered, but they only want you to see one perspective one way. So you have to be more thoughtful than that. God gave you a brain. God gave you a mind to think. Now, like here to me is what this looks like as a Christian. Some of my favorite people in the world are immigrants from what are considered third world countries. They are immigrants from Africa. They are hardworking people who have rejected DEI, who have rejected the welfare state, who have rejected. Who have rejected the welfare state, who have rejected every single opportunity to join this like complaint driven coalition who is constantly seeing the system is out to get them. And they have raised three kids. They became
Starting point is 00:42:42 citizens in 2020. Raised three beautiful, responsible, hardworking children. They are hardworking themselves. Anyone would be incredibly blessed to be these people's neighbors. And they're fellow church members. They are incredible people. Like I would rather live next to them than some Portland Antifa lib or even some toxic empathy like liberal wine mom from Buckhead any day of the week. Okay. We can acknowledge that. We can acknowledge that we shouldn't paint a broad brush, that we shouldn't generalize, that we shouldn't say everyone from one country is like this or all immigrants or all refugees, like we shouldn't do that. Like we should love people and see people as individuals while also saying, but in principle
Starting point is 00:43:38 and statistically and in general, it is better for the well-being and security of our country if all refugees and all asylum seekers and all migrants are extremely well vetted. and that it makes sense at least for a period of time to say, you know, some immigrants from some places are just not getting in. We don't have the capacity to vet them right now because we care about the safety and security of our Americans, of the people that we're governing, then we just can't let them in. And that is why Donald Trump, he said that he would halt all immigration processing for Afghan nationals pending a thorough review of security and vetting. protocols. He said, we must now re-examine every single alien who has entered our country
Starting point is 00:44:28 from Afghanistan under Biden. We must take all necessary measures to ensure the removal of any alien from any country who does not belong here or add benefit to our country. Again, I say yes and amen. Like, let's go. And in principle, on a micro level, everyone agrees with this. There's a reason why you live inside your home. There is a reason why you don't sleep on your front sidewalk. There's a reason why you don't leave your door open. There's a reason why you don't let strangers come into your home and eat all of your food and sleep in your children's bed. That doesn't make you a good neighbor. That makes you a bad parent. And countries are like families just on a bigger scale. You put the safety and security of your people first, not because you hate people from other
Starting point is 00:45:12 countries, but because you love people in your country. It is not possible for us to equally prioritize all of the interests of everyone in the world and all of their safety and security. It's now possible. So Americans come first. That is their righteous responsibility. I believe we see that principle in Romans 13, that governments were instituted by God to punish the wrongdoer and reward the good. You take care of your people. Nations were God's idea. Borders were God's idea. Government laws. All God's idea. And they are good. also Trump is talking about remigration and so people who are here remigrating them back to their home countries of course not American citizens but he points out how this really this is on Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:46:02 day this is a very long post by Trump and I'm trying to decide like I can't read the whole thing so he kind of weaves together a couple things that are happening here he's He says, okay, I'm just going to, I'm just going to read it and we'll see how far I get. He says a very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and patriots who have been so nice in allowing our country to be of divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged, and laughed at toxic empathy, along with certain other foolish countries throughout the world for being politically correct and just plain stupid when it comes to immigration. The official United States foreign population stands at 53 million people, most of which are on welfare from failed nations or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, or drug cartels. I mean, does that sound like a good process for Americans? No. They and their children are supported through massive payments from patriotic American citizens who, because of their beautiful hearts, do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 00:47:05 They put up with what has happened to our country, but it's eating them alive to do. do so. A migrant earning $30,000 with a green card will get roughly $50,000 in yearly benefits for their family. The real migrant population is much higher. This refugee burden is the leading cause of social dysfunction in America, something that did not exist after World War II. As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great state of Minnesota. Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for praise. Our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses, hosting, hoping against hope that they will be left alone. Okay. So then he uses, which I know my, like the world, it has mixed feelings about the R word.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And I will not say it, but he does call, he calls governor of Minnesota Tim Wal's mentally incompetent, which, okay, you can quibble about the use of the word. Like, let's focus on the main point. He said that Tim Walls does nothing either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst congresswoman in our country, Ilan Omar always wrapped in her swaddling hijab. And who probably came into the USA illegally and that you are not allowed to marry your brother. Does nothing but hatefully complain about our country and how badly she is treated. Okay, so that is all true. Sleepy Joe Biden. He said only reverse migration can fully cure.
Starting point is 00:48:37 this situation. Other than that, happy Thanksgiving, other than that, other than that, happy Thanksgiving to all, except those that hate, steal, murder, and destroy everything that America stands for. You won't be here for long. Okay, I love it. Let's go. Let's go. I don't, people, again, who agree with Donald Trump and my DMs, why does he have to post this on Thanksgiving? Why does he have to say this? Why does they have to say it like this? I'm over-caaring about that. I just don't care. Like, this is just such a bigger, issue. Okay. This is a much bigger issue because what is happening in Minnesota is absolutely awful. And it does go to show again that our empathy that is extracting our tax dollars from us to support
Starting point is 00:49:23 not only migration, but to support these good causes and these programs that it's actually working against us that our empathy is allowing us to be stolen from and for children to be stolen from and that's really bad so let's take a brief look at what's happening in minnesota and then we'll close out by talking about what's going on in tennessee let me go ahead and pause tell you about our next sponsor for the day it is pre-born okay if you actually want to love not just feel deeply for someone which only goes so far but actually love someone then you should put your money where your heart is and support pregnant moms and need, support their babies, make sure they have the resources that they need to make a life affirming choice and to take care of their baby.
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Starting point is 00:51:00 make your donation today to preborn. That's preborn.com slash alley. Preborn.com slash alley. My Blaze colleague Chris Rufo has done a lot of great work when it comes to the corruption in the state of Minnesota through Somali non-profits. So this is according to Blaze Media and City Journal. A City Journal investigation exposed multiple massive fraud schemes in Minnesota's welfare programs, almost all perpetrated by members of the state's Somali community, collectively stealing billions in taxpayer dollars.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Okay, just think about all of the people who are working so hard to pay their mortgage and to pay for their kids' school. Think about that family who has made the sacrifice to live on one income so the mom can homeschool their kids. The dad is working late. He's working hard. He's paying the government because he doesn't want to go to jail. How is that money being used?
Starting point is 00:51:59 Is it being used to fix the pothole? And his road is it being used to make sure that? that the education system for his neighbor's kids is performing well. No, no, no, no. It's being stolen from him. And it is being funneled through these groups for the enrichment of these groups who hate America, who hate the Constitution, and who seek dominance. That is just true.
Starting point is 00:52:25 That's not an exaggeration. So, for example, the Housing and Stabilization Services Program meant to cost $2.6 million per year exploded. to $104 million annually by 2024 and $61 million in just the first half of 2025 before being shut down because the vast majority of it was fraudulent. Federal prosecutors say that HSS providers were fictitious companies, often run from run-down storefronts that signed up vulnerable people for services they never intended to deliver while billing Medicaid anyway. The $250 million feeding our future scandal saw Somali-owned nonprofits claim to feed thousands of children daily with fake rosters and invoices, then use the money for luxury cars and overseas
Starting point is 00:53:09 real estate. On September 18, 2025, the 56th defendant pleaded guilty. So you see, like if you were, say you were a Republican who had been running in Minnesota and you had run on, hey, we got to cut, we got to cut spending and we have to cut the taxpayer dollars that we are giving to feeding our future. What would the liberal media have said? Oh, you're evil. How dare you doge this? You don't want to feed innocent children. You want these innocent children to starve and they would have found one kid on the streets of Minneapolis who didn't have food that day. And they would have said it's because of this Republican politician who wants to cut money from feeding our future. You saw the same thing with Doge when we cut funding to USAID. Well, USAID as you heard my guest, who is a missionary to Nigeria, say just the other day, they're doing jack squat in most of these places that they say that they're doing. something for, okay? So when people say we got to cut this stuff because we have to protect the American taxpayer, what does the media do and it works so well even sometimes on this audience? They say, well, you don't have empathy. You don't love your neighbor. Because look at what these
Starting point is 00:54:19 dollars are intended to do. Never ask what is the dollar intended to do. Ask what does the dollar do? Like what is the outcome of this program, not what is this dated intention? A separate $14 million autism services fraud ring paid some money. Molly parents cash kickbacks of $300 to $1,500 per month per child to enroll kids, many without actual autism diagnoses. And lucrative therapy programs driving statewide autism claims from $3 million into 2018 to $399 million in 2023. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:54:55 What are we doing? I mean, if this is happening in Minnesota, and this is actually being uncovered in Minnesota, which is pretty incredible. Like, what's happening in California? What's happening in Illinois? What's happening in New York? What is happening in Houston? These Democrat run places where there are these large Somalian Islamic groups who, I mean, you kind of get them credit. They look out for themselves. They're going to put themselves first. They're looking out for Somalia. They're looking out for Afghanistan. They're looking out for Islam. They're looking out for their people. And they're going to get theirs. And, you know, a lot of people see this as reparations for.
Starting point is 00:55:31 colonialism. That's how crazy it is. I mean, that's how much truly, like, America hates itself. And it's sad. And I don't stand for it because I don't hate this country. I love this country and I wanted to be a good country for my kids and green kids. U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson described the scandals as schemes stacked upon schemes. It takes his breath away. At least 28 major fraud scandals have erupted in Minnesota since Governor Tim Walls took office in 2019. And if he ran right now, every Democrat in the state of Minnesota would vote for him. I mean, we already had someone in the state of Virginia when after texts were leaked that said that he wanted to kill his opponent's children. So I don't think that fraud is like the moral limit that the current Democrat Party has.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Billions in stolen welfare have been sent as remittances from Minnesota to Somalia. Somalia first. Somalia first. See, it's crazy how other countries are allowed to put their country first. And that's totally fine. but when America does it or when Britain does it or when Italy does it, it's bigotry and it's wrong. But the important thing is, is that people, not that people see this fraud, not that people are worried about their hard and drawers, not that people are worried about corruption. The important thing is that we're not mean to the people who are committing this fraud.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's not too. Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state? Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. governors don't get to just talk theoretically. We have to solve problems. And I will note, it's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous state. A. A well-run state where AAA bond-rated, but that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing everything we can. But to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, it's lazy. It's not a few. It's not a few. He emphasized later that it's also just important that we have diversity. Diversity is not a strength in and of itself. It actually is much closer to a detriment than it is a strength. It can be a strength. If you are unified by something much deeper than skin color and nationality,
Starting point is 00:57:40 if you're unified by a creed, if you're unified by the gospel, then having different perspectives and different backgrounds can actually be a benefit. But if you only have diversity, if that's the only commonality that you have, then no. That leads to a fraid social contract. That leads to chaos. there's no cohesion there. You don't trust your neighbor. That's how the world has functioned for all of time. We're not different or new or better than people throughout history. You have to
Starting point is 00:58:10 have something very real in common. And if it's not going to be culture, like if it's not going to be patriotism and your nationality, it's got to be something deeper like religion. When you have nothing, then it just doesn't work. And before we close out that section, I just want to remind you of the book of Nehemiah. The book of Nehemiah is so good at explaining the wisdom, the prudence of borders and protecting the city that you love. Nehemiah 2.17 through 20. Then I said to them, you see the trouble we are in, how Jerusalem lies in ruins with its gates burned. Come let us build the wall of Jerusalem that we may no longer suffer derision. So when you don't have a border, when you don't have a protection, people deride. you. They take advantage of you. And I told them of the hand of my God that had been upon me
Starting point is 00:59:02 for good and also of the words that the king has spoken to me. And they said, let us rise up and build. So they strengthened their hands for the good work. But the Sanbalat, the Horonite and Tobiah the Ammonite servant and Gasham, the Arab heard it. They jeered at us and despise us and said, what is this thing you are doing? Are you rebelling against the king? Then I replied to them, the God of heaven will make us prosper. And we his servants will rise and build, but you have no portion or claim in Jerusalem. And you should really read the entire book. It's very short, but it shows how God actually uses borders to protect his people,
Starting point is 00:59:39 how it's just wise. It's good governance. And when you don't have that, then you are like a man without self-control. That's what the book of Proverbs tells us. We are vulnerable to all kinds of dangers. All right. I just want to give one example. of this toxic empathy that has been recirculating on X,
Starting point is 00:59:59 that is so important for us to understand, like, what is behind all of this, the money that's behind all of this, the power that's behind these kinds of programs and policies that are just leading to so much destruction. I saw that my interview with Nicole Shanahan, that we recorded back in March, that this clip was circulating online.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And I don't even think most people who were commenting on it knew that it was from my show. So I don't really know what started all of this, but she talked about to me this tech wife mafia that happens in Silicon Valley. All of these wives of these tech entrepreneurs very wealthy, how because of their toxic empathy, and she cites my book in it and how it helped her like understand where this mentality is coming from, how they are funding all these progressive causes because of that. Here's top five.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I think at the heart of the progressive billionaire wife mafia is a real desire to want to be liked to give back and to be celebrated for doing good work. I think that describes probably a lot of the friends that you have that are progressive. Here she is explaining this a little more, SOT 6. I don't think that the wives necessarily are bad people, but I think that their worlds are so small, and they actually have no idea how small those worlds are until you, because they can't break free of it. And they feel this need to contribute to these causes that are within that very small sphere of influence. And that's their only, that's their only, like, litmus tests of like, am I a valuable or am I not valuable? And she's absolutely right. And you can look all of this up.
Starting point is 01:02:01 But Melinda French Gates, $1 billion pledged for women's rights that includes access to abortion, McKinsey Scott, lots of donations to Planned Parenthood and to other abortion organization. Lauren Powell Jobs, $400 million to mass migration causes. Also, McKinsey, Scott, doing the same thing. These causes represent 80% of collective giving from these donors per reports from last year. And so, like, all of this, this, it's really not the guys in Silicon Valley, I think that are driving a lot of these progressive causes. I think it's the women that they're either. married to or got a lot of money in a divorce supporting these progressive causes. And
Starting point is 01:02:52 Nicole Shanahan also talks about because she was married to the co-founder of Google. How when she was progressive, like she did this too. And she truly believed that these like social justice, justice reformed programs and organizations that she was donating to that they were doing good. but of course you realize that they're advocating for soft on crime policies that end up destroying people's lives. So toxic empathy is something that happens at the very top. It is something that can destroy people's lives, their families, communities, our entire country. I think the people at the very top don't actually feel this sense of empathy. I think that there are actually some just really bad deceitful actors.
Starting point is 01:03:40 who want to exploit Americans' goodwill for these bad causes. I think of people like George Soros and things like that. Like I don't think he actually feels empathy for the migrant or the black person or the poor person at all. I think he just hates America. I think there are people that just hate America. And they know that progressive policies ruin America. They just do.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Like how do you, it's hard for me to see how someone doesn't see that at this point. when you see the trajectory of a place like San Francisco or Austin or Denver or Philadelphia or New York City, the more progressive they get the dirtier and the less safe and the worse they get and the poor they get. Like it's just so obvious that progressive programs don't work. They don't help people. They hurt. So like even if you would say, okay, while at least they're doing XYZ feeding the hungry,
Starting point is 01:04:36 no, they're not. If you want to make sure that the hungry are fed, then you go. do it. Don't outsource your compassion to the government. That's important. And it's especially important if you live in Tennessee. If you live around Nashville, there's a special election coming up. Tomorrow, December 2nd, a Democrat Afton Ben, is that how you pronounce her name? She's an activist turned Tennessee state representative. And she is against Republican Matt Van Epps, a combat veteran, a member of the Tennessee Army National Guard endorsed by Trump. This is, they are vying for the seventh district seat left vacant by former GOP representative Mark Green, who resigned earlier this year.
Starting point is 01:05:15 A lot of people feel confident. Trump won the Deep Red District by 22 points in 2024. But this covers part of Nashville. And Nashville, as people who live there know, has become a lot more progressive. You know, like so many other states, like Georgia or like Texas, it is very largely conservative. But then when you get into places like Knoxville or Nashville where universities are, where it's just a little bit more urban, you have a lot of Democrats. Plus, you have a lot of migration to Tennessee from people who are fed up by California's policies or the policies of another Democrat state. They want to enjoy the freedom that they get in a conservative state while continuing to vote Democrat for social reasons. They don't make the connection. I think that's the definition of insanity.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So it is possible that she wins. So that's why I want to talk about this because if you live in Tennessee, and I know a lot of you do, don't forget to vote. You can early vote if you're listening to this and the polls are still open today. I think early voting may have closed. So I might have given you bad information, but you can definitely vote tomorrow on Tuesday. You need to do that. You need to make a plan to vote.
Starting point is 01:06:28 You need to make sure that you have a time that you can go. You need to make sure that you have childcare. If you need child care, you need to make sure that you need to make sure that you you have a way to get there. Pick up your neighbors, pick up your friend, do a carpool situation, text your friends, make sure that they're voting if you have friends that live in that district and make sure that you vote. Republican.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So let me just talk a little bit about who she is and why she is so awful. But before we do that, let me tell you about our last sponsor for the day. It's Fellowship Home Loans. There is a standoff right now between the Trump camp and the Federal Reserve. Trump is pushing hard to bring interest rates down, get the economy moving, but Jerome Powell is holding firm for now. Rates could drop at any moment when they do. People who are smart and prepared will move fast. That's why now is the time to talk to my friends at Fellowship Home Loans, Mike and Brian and their team will help you run the numbers. Look at the full picture. Ask the honest question, what is it going to take to get you into the home your family needs right now?
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Starting point is 01:08:14 So here she is. Oh, this is just a voiceover. Oh, this is got it. Okay, so here she is. She's trying to break it into the governor. Okay. The governor's office. Now, the left is going to see this as heroic.
Starting point is 01:08:31 I don't have the context for why she is doing this or why she thought this was important. We'll put up a picture of Afton so you can see what she looks like. But something that's super disturbing for me is that she actually hates the place that she is going to represent. Here is Sot 9. I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city. I hate the bacheloretts. I hate the pedal taverns. I hate country music.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I hate all of the things that make Nashville, apparently. and it's city to the rest of the country, but I hate it. Yeah, I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorette's are giddy walking out and they're in their two-toned, colored pantone, pink shirts. And they walk out and I'm like, they're like, oh my God, Nashville is so bad. They're so loud. Okay, so she hates the city that she is trying to represent. She also said this about Berthers on her podcast in 2020.
Starting point is 01:09:32 She said, I think as an organizer and as an activist, we really have. an opportunity here in this country to talk about what type of progressive policies we want to see as young women. And I think we have as birthers, as women who can give birth, men and women who can give birth. What? Oh my gosh. Okay. She also called this podcast the plurality of pro-life. So I guess she believes that it's pro-life to say that men and women can give birth. I'm sorry, but if you believe that, you're crazy person and you should not have any power at all. all. She also believes in having a trans bill of rights. She says that her partner has a quote, transgender son. Here's not seven. Every legislative session, I promise to carry a trans bill of rights
Starting point is 01:10:17 so that we could push back against the far right narrative that is being emanated by Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire who have set up their home in Nashville. And I promise to do that. I promise to fight for our trans community. Matt Walsh, with an honorable mention there, December of 2024, For Ben sponsored the, not Ben Shapiro, since I just talked about Matt Walsh. Ben, Afton Ben, sponsored the Reproductive Freedom Act, which guaranteed every person a right to make decisions about reproductive health care. So, of course, that includes abortion. She would love abortion through all nine months. In November of 2025, she was asked by MSNBC reporter whether she would stand by now deleted tweets from 2020, condemning the police, calling them for them to be.
Starting point is 01:11:02 defunded and celebrating the burning down of a police station. Okay, here's what she had to say. In 2020, you made some tweets that have since been deleted, that were very critical of police. You said in those since deleted tweets that the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department should be dissolved. Another cheered on a teacher's union saying that defund the police should be a requirement for schools reopening. And another saying, good morning, especially to the 54% of the, of Americans that believe burning down a police station is justified. 2020, it was obviously a very fraught year.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Do you still stand by those comments? And if not, is there anything you want to clarify? I'm not going to gauge in cable news talking points. What? They were your own quotes. That's horrible. So horrifying to believe that arson and violence is okay for what? So punishing innocent people.
Starting point is 01:12:02 for what someone else allegedly did in the state of Minnesota is apparently justice. She's just not a good person. She's not the kind of person that you want to represent. And look, our majority as Republicans in the House of Representatives, what she's running for is getting slimmer. If she wins, it's getting slimmer. Marjorie Taylor Green. She's resigning.
Starting point is 01:12:24 It's getting slimmer still. And so we want to make sure that Republican Matt Van Epps wins, that he is in office. is obviously we know that someone who fights for abortion that fights for the dissolution of the reality of male and female who doesn't believe in law enforcement cannot keep you safe. And plus you can't lead what you don't love. Like you just you just can't. You can't lead well something that you hate unless you just want to fundamentally change it. Like there's a reason why Tennessee has become this stronghold, this refuge for conservatives.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And she wants to change that. Democrats want to make sure that there's nowhere that you can hide, nowhere that you can go to be free. And so just make sure that she doesn't win. I'm going to be super disappointed in you if she wins. Okay, that's that that's your warning. I'm going to be very disappointed in you. So I'll be back Wednesday. And we'll talk about it maybe a little bit then. And if you don't go vote, you're in trouble and you're in time out. And that's all I have to say. We'll be back here on Wednesday with more.

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