Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1279 | Charlie Kirk Trial Details, Bondi & Brown Attacks & Living to 100

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Allie and her father, Ron Simmons, unpack the heartbreaking tragedies that occurred over the weekend: the shooting at Brown University in the U.S. and the massacre at Australia's Bondi Beach. Allie also dives into the impending trial of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, where he's facing life in prison or the death penalty. Ron gives his take on the upcoming midterms and speaks into how the seemingly fractured Right can band together to come out victorious in 2028 against Democratic front-runner Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-Calif.). Plus Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas) gives a crazy reason why America needs illegal aliens, and Dick Van Dyke turns 100, and he gives his advice on living a joy-filled life. Join us for sober truth, biblical hope, and a call to bold faith amid chaos. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (01:55) Brown University Shooting (09:15) Bondi Beach Attack (16:15) Problems of Mass Migration (25:20) Charlie Kirk's Killer's Trial (42:28) The Midterms and 2028 Election  (53:54) Viewer Q & A  (01:09:31) Dick Van Dyke's 100th Birthday --- Today's Sponsors: PreBorn — Would you consider a gift to save babies in a big way? Your gift will be used to save countless babies for years to come. To donate, dial #250 and say the keyword BABY or donate securely at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠preborn.com/allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Good Ranchers — Give a reason to gather. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠goodranchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start gifting, and while you’re there, treat yourself with your own subscription to America’s best meat. And when you use the code ALLIE, you’ll get $40 off your first order. We Heart Nutrition — Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠weheartnutrition.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn how their products always use the most bioavailable, research-backed forms. Use the code ALLIE for 20% off! Seven Weeks Coffee — This is the pro-life coffee you’ll want on Christmas morning. So go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sevenweekscoffee.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and save 15% forever when you subscribe, and this holiday season, you can claim up to four free gifts with your order!  Plus, use code ALLIE for an extra 10% off your first order.  Jase — Check out the Jase Mini first aid kit. It's a high-quality, thoughtful gift that shows you value their health and wellbeing. Enter promo code ALLIE at checkout for a discount on your order when you visit ⁠⁠⁠jase.com⁠⁠⁠. --- Episodes you might like:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ep 621 | Why Banning Guns Won’t Fix It ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-621-why-banning-guns-wont-fix-it/id1359249098?i=1000564729141⁠ Ep 801 | Don’t Fall for Weaponized Empathy ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-801-texas-shooting-was-it-right-wing-extremism/id1359249098?i=1000612219955⁠ Ep 1250 | Did Israel Kill Charlie Kirk? Investigation vs. Innuendo ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000730462658⁠ Ep 1259 | Deporting Danger: Why Leftists Hate ICE | Ron Simmons ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000733757063⁠ --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (and That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.alliebethstuckey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise: Use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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That's good ranchers.com, code Alley. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day so far. I've got a very special co-host with me today. My dad, your favorite guest host, Ron Simmons. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me.

You looked confused about my introduction. I was thinking guest versus co-host. I wasn't sure. Yeah, no, this is going to be a co-host situation. I like that. I got promoted. You got promoted. Right.

Because you've taken over a few times. And you've doubled my pay from zero to double zero. Yes, exciting. Just feeling very generous this time here. And worth every penny, by the way. Yes. Okay. we've got a lot to talk about. We'll get to some audience questions at the end. We've got some sad stuff to talk about today. I know. I know. Sure. And, but we'll also talk about some more

lighthearted stuff at the end and we'll try to be as encouraging as we can. But I want to talk first about some tragedies that happened over the weekend. First, we've got this Brown University shooting. The suspect is still at large. They thought that they had a person of interest, or they did have a person of interest, but then he was released. And so we do not know who did this. But the shooter, according to the AP, reportedly fired more than 40 rounds. This happened in an engineering building. One of two of the victims was a young woman named Ella Cook. We'll put up her picture. Looks like a sweet young woman, reportedly Christian, conservative woman, head of the vice president of the Brown University College Republican.

Brown University, as people can imagine, is not a conservative place. I think this was the only conservative group on campus. I think they had about 50 members. And she was a very enthusiastic and organized leader of that. And gosh, I just think about like how parents feel when their kids go off to college. She's a young, young woman. And how her parents must be feeling right now, you know, just sent their baby off to college. I can't imagine.

Christmas will never be the same for them ever. No. Because it's so associated with this from now on. And, you know, Brown University, just so people know, it's not just a liberal college, it's probably one of the most radical liberal colleges out there. I believe it's in Rhode Island. Yeah.

And it's not a huge university, but it seems really ironic that of all the people that would be killed in this would be one of the 50, conservatives on campus. And it'll be interesting to see what comes out of it. And also, actually pretty lucky that no more people were killed, considering he shot 40 rounds in a very closed area because I think it was in like a classroom or something like that.

So just, and, you know, and Brown University is going to downplay anything that might be related to violence against a conservative for sure. Yeah. I mean, I know that they didn't wish her to die. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that they're going to shape the messaging that it won't, they won't, they won't ever acknowledge that it possibly could be some anti-conservative backlash. Yeah, our anti-Christian, we just don't know.

There were some assumptions and some reporting at the beginning because this was happening right when the Bondi Beach tragedy in Australia was happening, which we'll get to in a little bit that this was targeting like Jewish professors that doesn't seem to be the case. We don't know who it is. We don't know exactly what the motive is. Here is Providence PD telling us what they knew at the time, obviously not giving a whole lot of detail, but here they are, the set one. The mayor stated we have detained someone of interest, but I respect them to protect the integrity of the investigation. I would only be limited in my details. Okay, so basically they're not going to say anything else right now. Apparently he yelled something before he shot. We don't know

what that is. Fox is reporting a little bit more. Here's that too. But this individual went to a specific classroom that was essentially in a study session for an exam on economics and chose that classroom. And we know from a witness inside that this gunman yelled something. We don't know what this individual yelled and then began shooting. Okay. Here. What's what Brown president had to say, SOT three. D.C. when it happened and flew right back and I'm catching up right now. President, with all due respect, six hours after this shooting and you said, you don't know what was going on in that classroom? How does that happen? Were they taking an exam? Were they meeting for a club?

I don't know. I don't know. Six hours later, and you're the president and you don't know. I do not know. That's kind of concern. Do you believe that? No. No. She'd been briefed by somebody, on her team, what was going on in there? That would be, if other than that, she needs to be fired. Right. I mean, because I would have, the first question she should ask after, you know, what are the safety situation is, okay, what's, what's, what class was it, what was going on in there, why were they there, that type of thing? I mean, that'd be the normal thing to ask. Yeah. I mean, because that actually matters. That's pertinent. Okay, if it was an informal study

group, then maybe it's less likely that she was targeted. She just happened to be wrong place, wrong time. But if it was a college Republicans meeting, if it was a Bible study, if it had something to do with that, okay, that's pertinent. Now, I do want to know how did she get killed, like you were saying earlier, and the other people in the classroom did not. That's why it seems targeted as well. Especially because it's got to be a relatively small area. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't sound like it was in a big hall. It was in a small area. I don't, I don't, it's a strange thing. And how did that person get off to? campus without being apprehended.

Yeah, apprehended. Where is campus security in that, right? Right. Because I didn't hear any reports that there was a silencer, so I assume there was a lot of noise. Yeah. And I assume there are other people in the building. That was just a classroom or a room in the building.

So it's a lot of questions unanswered. You can bet. And as you know, the first thing a lot of people start doing these situations, cover up, cover up, cover up. Oh, yeah. just to cover their own, you know, backsides. Yep. Another victim, Muhammad Aziz Emersikov.

He has died, pray for his family as well. Kendall Turner is a student who has been identified as one of the victims, just a wounded victim. So we'll just keep tabs on this and we'll see what happens. And hopefully, well, let's just pray for truth and justice. justice and definitely for this suspect to be apprehended and to be brought to the fullness of justice. And just, you know, pray for this young woman's family, as my dad said, they'll never be the same. It will never, ever be the same. All right, we're going to get into this Bondi Beach story in just a second.

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be, by all appearances, a targeted attack against the Jewish community there in Australia by a Muslim assailant. This was the first day of Hanukkah. There was a celebration going on there. At least 15 lives were claimed at this celebration. Many more have been wounded after a gunman opened fire in this outdoor area there. A 41-year-old bystander. also seemingly Muslim. We don't know for sure his religion, but his name is Ahmed al-Amed, wrestled and disarmed the first shooter.

That was actually amazing. Yeah, some people are saying that he's, that, you know, he's clearly Muslim, but I don't think we can tell that by his name, probably Middle Eastern of some sort, but we don't know his worldview, regardless, extremely thankful for that act of act of heroism. So one of the shooters identified

his 24-year-old Muslim man of Pakistani origin, he remains hospitalized and in a coma, reportedly linked to ISIS, to an ISIS cell in Sydney. His 50-year-old father, another suspect, father's son situation here, was shot and killed by the police. The father has been in permanent residency in Australia since 1998 via a visa. Wow. Just absolutely. crazy. I mean, the father and son told their family they were going on a fishing trip. And then they go to this walking bridge and that's where they start shooting from. So they have, looks like to me, from what I understand it's an elevated position, which gives you, that's probably why so many people were killed because there's not anything to shoot through.

They're shooting down. At least that's the way I understood it. It could be wrong on that. I don't have all the details. But, you know, it just goes to what we talk about all the time is that, you know, there are sex of the Muslim religion that absolutely have nothing but a death wish on Jewish people and in some ways on Christian people as well. I mean, we're both seen as we're not a Zionist. We're, you know, we're the devil. So it's just sad. And the saddest thing for me and all the deaths are sad, but one of them evidently was a Holocaust survivor. Now, can you imagine going through Holocaust. Getting out of that, living your life for the next multiple, multiple decades, and then

dying again from another, you know, Jew hater? Right. So many years later. And in Australia, of all places. And then a 10-year-old boy, too. I saw that. It's just awful. And certainly the problem really, it's because Christians and Jews and Muslims, no matter

where you are, if you have a Muslim majority, you're going to be persecuted. You are probably going to be subject, at the very least to discrimination, at the very worst to torture, arbitrary imprisonment and death. But the fact of the matter is, because I'm going to take it a step further than what you said. It is absolutely true that not all individual Muslims, of course, are going to do something like this, but it is inherent in Islamic ideology, in Islamic text. And, you know, Islam means submission. And so it's not a religion of evangelism the way that ours are. It's a religion of conquest and of territorial domination.

And they truly see it as their God-given right and responsibility to kill the infidel. They hate Jews. They hate Christians. The tactics look different. We're at different stages of Islamic domination all around in the world. but that is just the truth of the matter and people really have to wake up about that and charlie kirk was so right about this he wasn't afraid to criticize when he felt that israel was doing something wrong politically but he was so crystal clear about the threat of islamic ideology to western

civilization there's a couple clips that i have that i saw going around here's top five the spiritual battle is coming to the west and the enemies are wokeism or marxism combining with islamism to go after what we call the American way of life. If you are Christian and Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, these two threats are combining forces to come after us, and it's time that the church stands and rises up against it. Yeah, he was right about that. Yeah, okay, here's that six.

We don't talk enough about Islam. There is a red-green axis that is trying to suffocate this country. We talk a lot about the red, which is the Marxist. We don't talk nearly enough about the Islam. We don't talk nearly enough about the hundreds of thousands of Muslims that we have voluntarily imported into our country that build mosques, implement Sharia law. I don't know if you guys have this problem in South Carolina or not, but it's a, thankfully no, but you go to Minneapolis, you even go to Dallas, you go to New York, and it will metastasize, it will spread. You know why? Because the women of the West, they get cats, the women of Muslims, they have eight kids.

Eventually, it doesn't work very well. he was right. And I thought he was going to go in the direction of toxic empathy because it's toxic empathy that has made us say, no, Christians are the bad ones, Muslims are the great ones, and we just need to accept unfettered anyone into our country. I mean, immigration is a part of this. It is a part of this in mass migration and this idea that we have to accept absolutely anyone who wants to come to our country no matter what, it's kind of gotten us here. Yeah, it really has. Now, I think it unintentionally it got us here. I don't think anybody had that intention, hey, we want to, you know, let Islam take over the country. But what happens is, is when we didn't promote assimilation and when we teach English as a second language, those are just the kind of the underpinnings of how things like that start. See, we assumed that what would happen with like the Somalians in Minnesota and all the other, immigrants that we led in, we assumed they would assimilate like it did through Ellis Island, right? Like the Italians and the Irish. Now, even then, they lived in separate parts of the city, but they assimilated to be Americans, right?

They were American first. And we just have not done a good job at that all. So therefore, I think that we need to, until we figure that out, we need to really, really, slow down immigration. We really need to slow down immigration. Absolutely. just so that it doesn't have to be a complete stop of immigration, although I think a moratorium for a period of time would be fine.

But you want to make sure that the quality of people that you're letting in are people like we know immigrants from Kenya, Zimbabwe. We know a lot of people like that that are super hardworking, that are Christians, that are really good neighbors and friends and church members and all of that. But, I mean, they are like the model people that you want to live next door to. but you know they have family members that are just like them who have been trying to come legally and can't i know but i do think that one of the things that we ought to do is we should get rid of chain migration automatic chain migration i don't mind given a preference to vetting a fellow family

member okay early i get that but chain migration and that's a chuck schumer thing he was the one that pushed that through now shame on us for letting it happen but chain migration is a problem. And that's where a lot of the Somalian issues in Minnesota came from, chain migration. And we just, that needs to be eliminated. That needs to be, somebody needs to be talking about that in the Republican Party. And I've heard very little about that. That also affects housing prices. I would think, I mean, just the more people that you bring in in general. No question about it. And yeah, I mean, multi-generational homes, they can just afford a bigger down payment than the average, you know, couple coming out of college with the wife wants to be a stay-at-home mom and the

dad has a $60,000 a year job, like that's hard to compete against the chain migration family that lives next door that's got three generations of income owners. That's tough for the American family. No question about it. And we see, I see, the thing that's worrying me the most is not the taking over of our cities. It's the taking over of our suburbs. Yeah, totally. Big time taking over.

I see that all around the country. Yeah. And what's happening is they're doing, you know, multi-jurbs. people living in the same house, multi-generational incomes. And they, you know, even in the neighborhood that I live in, I walk a lot, right? And it's so interesting is that I will pass people that I know have immigrated here, you know, meet them. And they won't even make eye contact. Nope. It's just really strange, right? Yep. I mean, I'll say hi to almost everybody. Hello. You know, that type of deal. They won't even make eye contact. And I'm thinking, that's the

not right. That's not the America that I grew up in or believed in. No. And that's one thing, you know, we heard so much, especially the past few years, diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength. Well, statistically, that's not true. It can be a strength if you have something bigger than not uniting you. So it can bring different perspectives and things like that. But at the end of the day, you have to say, okay, but this is what we have in common. But if you don't have that, then diversity is a weakness. There's this book called Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam. I'm sure you've heard of it. It's old. It's 25 years old. But he talked about this, that the more diverse in neighborhood is the less you trust your neighbors. And it's not because anyone individual is racist.

It's just human nature. It's just we are trying to force multiculturalism upon people without any shared underneath values. And that has worked zero places throughout history. And it's never about multiculturalism where they adopt our culture. It's about us tolerance of their culture. Yeah, and acceptance and celebration. Yeah, and so anyway. Yeah, it's tough. Okay, just one thing I want to finish on on this, a lot of people are talking about the gun aspect of this.

Australia has really, really tough gun laws. And now they're talking about getting even tougher gun laws, which I don't even know how you do. Like, how would people like this even get guns? I don't know, but criminals always get guns. Yeah. And that's the way it is. I mean, they could, it could have been put it, it could have been sent over on some ship in some crate that said, you know, peaches on it or something.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, they don't check every single crate or, or anything like that. Who knows how they got it. But remember, criminals are always going to have guns. And the stricter the gun control simply means that criminals will have them and the government will have them. And individual law-abiding citizens will be the only ones that are disadvantaged. Yep.

There was a terrible attack in Australia, the Port Arthur attack that people point to because they really, like they really locked down on gun ownership after I think 1997. And people will, they'll show a graph of 1997 to today that gun deaths went down. What they don't show you is if you expand the graph before 1997, gun deaths were already going down in Australia before they changed that policy at the exact same rate. So whatever it was, whatever else was happening that made guns. gun deaths go down, it wasn't actually them stopping gun ownership that stopped that. This just made it to where very few civilians had the ability to protect themselves. Right. Yeah.

It's not good. Evidently, this person, what I read was that this person had bought these guns legally. But I don't know that that's true or not, but I'd read that. There's some way you can get like a hunting. I don't think these were hunting rifles, though, that they were shooting. I'm not exactly sure what they were. but in order to kill that many people, they had to be,

feel like they would need to be semi-automatic at least. Yeah. There is the video of the police taking these guys down and then, you know, arresting them because I guess at least one of the guys is alive. And then, you know, some Australian guy, you hear all the Australians in the background, like cheering on the police.

It's morbid, but, like, you want the good guy to go down. So you find yourself, like, watching it and cheering along with them. Or the bad guy to go down. I don't remember if I said that right or wrong. But then this good guy comes up, and I saw people saying, this should be the next prime minister of Australia. He just curb stomps the, like, suspect's head into the ground.

He got arrested. Of course he did. So, yeah, what do you think about that? Well, I hope there's not a jury in Australia that would ever convict that man. Yeah. That's a sad case if it is. Yeah, it is. I mean, I'm sorry.

We celebrate that guy. He just killed 15 people. Yeah. It's a waste of our money. even put him on trial. Yeah. Just get this, move it through fast. I know.

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Okay, so Charlie Kirk's Killer, and we've tried on this show not to say his name. It's hard to do, and I don't even know if it's always the right thing. I just feel like people like this always just want notoriety. Oh, this guy definitely does. They want to be known, so I just try not to say his name, but it's getting harder and harder to deal. So he made his first in-person court appearance on Thursday, December 11th in Provo, Utah, after previous appearances via video from the Utah County Jail, where he has been held

since his arrest in September, people will remember that his parents saw him on the security footage, said, that's my son. They did the right thing. The very, very difficult thing I can imagine, turned their son in. He has been in jail. He is being charged with aggravated murder. So this is known as first degree murder in other states. It's an elevated charge carrying the death penalty or life without parole. Now, we'll get into kind of what happened on Thursday, but a parent apparently the trial might not even start until 2027, Dad. Well, these things, and again, our system is set up. Our system is, remember how our system came out of?

We came out of a place where a king could say, you're arrested without any proof or trial or anything like that. So our system is set up to favor the accused. That's right. And our system allows the way it's set up, people that are guilty to get off. There's no question about it. All right. The burden of proof is heavily, heavily on the prosecution, which is the government in this case.

And so there are many steps to go through that can delay. And the reason that defense generally likes to delay is they want it, the emotion to have passed through what could be their jury pool. Okay. Yeah. Now, my prediction is that there'll never end up being a, uh, prosecutorial conviction, meaning it won't go to trial and be convicted. Some point in time, he is going to take a plea bargain to take life in prison. That's what I think.

So you won't even have a trial? And I think it'll be much later. You may start the trial, but before the sentencing or somewhere in there, I believe that they'll try to cut a deal. And the government will probably give him the deal. And why do you think that? Well, just because it allows him to live, because they're going to, they're going after the death penalty, right?

But you shouldn't be allowed to just plea that down. If the death penalty is just, then it's just. I know, but you can because it's a two-way street. And what the government, their calculus, I think, would be is that we don't want to take any risk of this guy getting off or there be an appeal that would, you know, that type of thing. And so. Yeah. So they see it kind of as a win-win. That's what they would see. Now, maybe that'll be different in this particular case. I don't know. know, but that's what I see. Now, there is going to be, you know, the next hearing is January 16th, but it's really just on media, how much they're going to allow the media in.

And then there's several pretrial hearings that have to happen in this. We need to be praying for this judge. He's in a tough spot. Judge Graff. Yeah. Is it Travis Graff or something like that? Or if I remember right. But anyway, we need it because it's tough.

Those things are tough. Tony Graff. Tony Graff. Yeah. We need to be praying for him. Those are tough scenarios. He'll be under a lot of pressure. And, you know, just scumbag, dude.

Again, it's still hard for me to believe it happened, honestly. Yeah, I know. I know. We should have pictures of him in the courtroom, smiling, things like that. It was just very disturbing. Oh, you just wanted to slap him. I know. And people were also pointing out, we should put up a picture of this, that he was wearing

like baby blue and baby pink a baby pink tie and people pointed out those are the colors of the transgender flag and we don't we don't know if that is purposeful or not but it's a little on the nose i'm just going to say that it was yeah i mean it's a little on the nose um so this guy judge tony graft he says that he's got a thousand four hundred and nine cases that are assigned to him, which I don't even understand, Dad, how that works, how these judges have so many cases assigned to them. How do they even get through all of this? Why is it set up that way? Well, probably 80% of them will never go to trial that be pled out. And I don't know if his is just a criminal court or he also has civil cases as well. I'm not sure how the Utah system works.

And again, this is a state murder is a state crime. There may be federal felonies related to guns and stuff like that that are also associated with this but the actual murder is a state crime and so these are state the state of Utah yeah it's state it's this this accused person versus the special state of Utah versus this accused person yeah and so the state judges uh they if he's in a area that is growing population wise which i think it's provo isn't it's where they're having this trial is that they're they may need to that they may need to increase the number of judges. Texas does that all the time as our population grows.

But it takes a while to get that done. You know, the governor has to appoint somebody and then the legislature has to approve the funding for it. So it just may be that the judges there right now are pretty overloaded. Yeah. So last week they kind of talked about a variety of things, like media access. It does seem right now that during the trial,

they are going to allow cameras. Now, his team doesn't like that because they're afraid that it opens it up to conspiracy theory, sensationalism, that he's going to be over scrutinized, that the jury is then not going to be able to be objective. The prosecution, and I've heard Erica say this, like she wants transparency. People want to be able to see. For a similar reason, they think it could, you know, cause conspiracy and speculation if people can't actually see what's going on. To that end, the judge also clarified some things like allowing him to wear street clothes. So like he was wearing a, you know, a shirt and a tie rather than a prison jumpsuit. So that doesn't taint the jury pool.

Also, the media aren't supposed to be able to show him in shackles. Yes, I did read that. Yeah. Yeah, again, and I get that because he is innocent until proving guilty. Yeah. And we do, like we want as fair as possible. And that's why when I see people say like, oh, well, why is in the FBI or why isn't law enforcement asking this, talking to this person, doing this? And I've been so confused about that because I'm like, how do we know that they're not?

Am I not on the email chain that the DOJ is sending out? Are you not? I've been on that way for a long time. Here's the witness that we're talking to today. I've just been very confused about that. And genuinely, like, do I not understand how this goes? But, I mean, they keep these things. They don't have a duty to report that.

Yeah. And they probably shouldn't, right? No. Like, that probably wouldn't be fair. To your point, the accused also has their rights in this. And we want it to be that way. As much as we might loathe the person who did something, we want our system to be. Yes, that's the way you want the system to be.

otherwise did you live in tyranny? Yeah. Right. And I really do believe that those closest to Charlie who are working with law enforcement, they're trying to turn over every stone and asking all of the questions. I don't think there's any question of that. He also talked about the gag order and the judge did. And he just clarified that this is a rule that stops lawyers, witnesses,

and others involved from talking publicly about the case outside of court. It's not anyone. anywhere that can't talk about it because I saw some people say, oh, I'm going to violate the gag order and Charlie, well, you don't have the power to do that. Right. It's only certain people. Yeah, it's just the people that or if you might be a witness now. That's where it gets a little gray because people don't always know if they're going to be a witness or not, you know, but somebody like his parents shouldn't comment on it. That would apply to them because they were the ones that turned him in. His ex-boyfriend, whatever he was.

was, can't comment. Yeah, the suspect. The suspects, you know, live in, whoever that was. Probably no school officials, that type of thing. Charlie's team, you know, probably can't comment specifically on things related to the trial. That's probably what they're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, we just have to keep following it again.

Every time, I'm sure, with Charlie's family, with his wife and kids, and with his parents, every time this kind of comes up for another hearing or something, you relive all of that. I mean, it's a painful, painful process, I can imagine. Yeah. People talked about, like, trying to lip read, like, what he was saying. People were commenting on just his demeanor, not seeming sad, not seeming afraid at all. There's this body language expert, as reported by the independent named Scott Rouse,

that claims by the body language that he wasn't demonstrated. any form of grief, hearsay. These two muscles pull together and this muscle pulls down. I don't see any of that. I don't see any grief muscle. It lets us know he's really, really worried about anything and no concern. Well, yeah, because he's probably sociopathic and obviously, if guilty, an evil person. Because, I mean, I don't know.

It just seems to me a person, whether you, if you murdered someone and you regret it, you're going to show distress. And if you didn't do it, I mean, you're definitely going to be distrust. Yeah. Yeah. What are we missing here? And also as parents, if like you really don't think that your son did it, like you're going to be sounding the alarms, I assume. Yep.

I would imagine so. You'd be tearing the house down. You're going to be going to the media. You're going to really be trying to do something. This, you know, I think when I looked at it, I don't think there's any question the guy was smirking. I think he's enjoying the attention. And I think, you know, he either he doesn't care what happens to him or he hasn't quite processed what all of that means.

And maybe the celebrity status of it means more to him. Kind of like that guy that shot the United Healthcare guy, right? Yeah. And they're totally opposite scenarios. But still, both of the suspects, you know, just seem, you know. Do they have access to social media in jail? I doubt it. I doubt it.

In any way? I guess he could have people tell him. Well, he could have, yeah, visitors, but they don't think they can even bring their phones and stuff. So how would he know that he's being hailed as a hero? Because he is being hailed as a hero. He probably can watch TV. Probably can watch TV.

And some of the TV reporting says that, that he's being held by a hero, you know. Yeah. That they report that. They don't necessarily saying they agree with that. Well, actually, you really only have to turn on, you know, MSNBC and see Ilhan Omar. Yeah. Say that, well, he was a racist and he was a terrible person. So he could feel like a vigilante like that.

So we'll see what's going to happen. Pray for truth, pray for justice. People know that I do believe that for a murder like this, that the death penalty should be carried out. I actually think the unjust part about our justice system when it comes to the death penalty is that it's too arbitrary and that it takes too long to do. Genesis 9 tells us that the death penalty is the proportionate

and just murder or just punishment for murder. not for everything, but after due process for murder. Because we are made in God's image, Charlie was made in God's image. And you can't replace that. That is so special. It's different than hurting an animal. It's different than doing anything else. We are so special and so sacred that the only just punishment for purposely killing an innocent person is death. That's actually mercy. It's not torture. It's not 30 years in prison. It is the mercy of snuffing the life out of the person who snuffed the life. out of the other person. Yeah, while our trial system, I think, is probably the best there is in the world.

Our sentencing system, our putting out punishment leaves out one major factor, and it leaves out the victim. And that's what really bothers me. The victims not considered near as much as the suspect. Yeah, right. punishment phase. And by the way, my opinion is that this is the guy who did it. Now, were there other people involved?

I think that, of course, that's always possible. But I just haven't been persuaded. Like, I want to know who did it. I haven't been persuaded by any of the theories or any of the qualms of people saying, well, he couldn't have done this or this bullet couldn't have done this. I'm not a gun expert, but the more I've looked into it, it is possible for that kind of bullet at that angle that killed Charlie to be stopped. like by Charlie's body.

And look, I think that they're very violent extremist cells online among left-wing militant groups that want to see Christian conservatives dead because of the things they say. I do believe 100%. That's what happened with Charlie Kirk. And I do believe my opinion is that Tyler Robinson was at the center of that. Yep. And those groups are looking for people that are just,

able to be radicalized. And this is radicalization. That's what it is. Whether it's radicalization to Islam or radicalization to the far-left wokeness or radicalization to, you know, white supremacist. Radicalization is radicalization. And this guy is radicalized. And that's why he doesn't have any remorse about it. Yeah, it is. But this is a far more pervasive form of radicalization. We just don't, like if we had a bunch of radical white supremacists out there, you can bet your bottom dollar we'd be hearing about it on a daily basis. Oh, yeah. We got a lot of left-wing violence.

It's a huge, huge problem. Lots of it. All right. Well, in this segment, I thought that Matt Walsh did a great job on his show, just talking about the different, like, theories and why he believes that this guy was in the middle of it. I think I accidentally violated my rule and said his name. You did.

I told you guys, it's difficult. It's really difficult to talk about this without mentioning his name. Didn't mean to do that. So we have three confessions here, one to his parents, one to his roommate, and one on Discord. And the confessions were not obtained by the FBI or coerced in an interrogation room or anything like that. Robinson turned himself in at a sheriff's office, not an FBI field office. A retired deputy sheriff and family friend brought him there. Those local sheriffs were the ones who took the first statements from Robinson's parents, which identified Robinson as the shooter

and provided the motive. In literally any other case, for literally any other defendant, if there is DNA evidence and a confession, they will be convicted. And to say that this kind of evidence is not enough, indeed to say that this evidence doesn't even point vaguely to the suspect, is to essentially say that guilt can never be proven in a court of law. All right. Before we move on to midterms, 2028, all that stuff.

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Your position being that. I don't think it's, I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson. There's no governor. to sign more pro-trans legislation than I have. Okay. So do you think that this is going to play with the nation in general for 2028? I think he thinks that the middle position on trans is don't play in the wrong sports from your biological birth, but everything else about it is okay. He thinks that's the middle position.

And I don't think if the Republican shape it properly, then I don't. don't think that is, is it. I mean, especially when you read about, there was an article in one of the papers I read over the weekend about how the medical community admits that they are basically doing junk science. Yeah. And they said, hey, well, we need to put together a, you know, basically like a chat group so we can talk to each other about it. I mean, it's just crazy. And so I don't think that it will be. But that's what he's trying to put. put out there because, you know, he says no trans in the, you know, no boys in girl sports. Yeah.

And he also said 80% of the people disagree with him on that. That's just not true. No. Not even. Maybe he misspoke. Maybe he missed spoke. Or on the other side of that. Or on the other side of that.

If not more. I think it's probably close to 90% that say, yeah, we should have separate spaces for boys and girls for the sake of girls. Yeah. It's a completely logically untenable position because you can't say, yes, it's possible. for a boy to become a girl, but he can't play with other girls? That doesn't make any sense. See, I think the Democrats will try not to talk about it at all. Yeah. I think they'll try to listen to Jim Carville, who was an old Democrat strategist. They haven't taken that advice so far. But I think

when it comes down to it, not a Jasmine Crockett or a OC, but a Gavin Newsom, oh yeah, because he didn't really have any of his own beliefs. Those aren't. You know, I just want to be elected. So we're gearing up for 2028? Are things already like starting to take shape with people vying for that? They will take shape more after November of 26. That's when it really starts happening. Yeah. That's when it really starts happening. But sure, I mean, especially on the Democrat side, he's trying to clear the field. Yeah. You know, and I don't know who, I mean, I think there'll be some other people, maybe like the guy from Pennsylvania to see kind of moderate, the problem with the guy from Pennsylvania and the guy from Kentucky is they can't.

cannot win the primary unless they cut some type of deal where they essentially, I hate to use the word cheat, but kind of like what they did when they got. Bernie and Hillary. Yeah, that's right. That whole type of deal. That's the only way that could happen. Okay. So midterms.

Yeah. What do we need to be thinking about right now? Well, we need to be thinking about Christmas and our, the, birth of our Savior. Yes. But as soon as that's over, so we turn the calendar, we got to go to work. We got to get to work. We have primaries coming up. Texas is the first Tuesday in March. And all over the country, there will be primary. So you need to pick the person in your party that you think will best be able to win in November. Yeah. Because remember, folks, politics at the end of the day is a binary choice, right? It's not between, you know, 16 different people. It's the two,

who do you think can win? That's the, that's the person that you should pick who can win in the general election. Right now in a, in the favorable, unfavorables, Republicans have an advantage kind of nationwide. The unfavorables for Democrats are, it's really kind of odd. They're way like, you know, you got like 20% more. unfavorable than you do favorable. So it's like 54, 34, 34, something like that. But when you ask for a this is a weird, this is weird, because it says when you ask in a generic ballot, who would you vote for a Republican or Democrat in Congress, Democrats are actually ahead by a little bit. So it's really a weird dynamic. But remember, congressional races are local races. They're not national races.

Yeah. They're what happens in that locality. And a lot of people say, I hate all Republicans other than my Republican, or I hate all Democrats other than my Democrat. I think it's going to be, it usually is in midterms. It's going to be a very tough midterm for Republicans. And so therefore, we have to really, really outwork the other side in order to keep our pretty slim margin already. In some cases, Trump will need to engage. But in some cases, President Trump will need to not engage. and he needs to respect that.

Yeah. Because look, the MAGA voters in the general election are going to vote anyway for the Republican candidate. Now, we do need to get the vote out, but we don't need for him to come in in a situation where he's got a huge negative appeal in a general election. Yeah. We need to not do that. There are some places where we have to win with a moderate Republican.

Yeah. We just, that's just the way it is. Okay, talk about that Senate seat in Texas that is up for grass. Yes, well, you know, we have Senator Cornyn, the current sitting senator, and then we have Attorney General Paxton, and then we have Congressman Wesley Hunt, which I don't know why he got in the race, because he just gave up his congressional seat to become a senator that he's not going to win. In my opinion, okay, he's not a bad person, but I just don't think he has a chance. So that will probably end up, those three people, it'll probably end up down to a runoff. And the Republican primary for that Senate seat, because Cornyn is stepping down. He's not stepping down. No.

He's not. Oh, he's running. He's running. Okay. But he has to get, you have to get 50 plus one. Okay. And then so there'll be a runoff between. So what do you think?

Who do you think the Republicans? It'll be the runoff. And then I don't know who will be after that. No, I've been very, I've been happy. A lot of your listeners may not be, but I know him personally. I've been very happy with Senator Cornyn. A lot of people think he's not. conservative enough. I don't think the record shows that, but we'll see what happens with that.

And then on the Democrat side, that's our good friend Jasmine Crockett. Good friend. Okay. And then Talarico, James Tala Rico, who is another one of my good friends. State rep that believes the Bible just is all in favor of abortion. Oh yeah. Actually, it is this story that we are celebrating the Nativity story of Mary being the mother of Jesus that he thinks affirms bodily autonomy and the pro-choice position, which, you know, I've really tried to actually engage with him. I would like to have a public conversation with him, friendly, but I want to know where do we get these perspectives, James Talarico? And then we've got Jasmine Crockett. Okay, let's watch our girl, Jasmine Crockett. She says we need illegal immigrants

because she's done picking cotton. So it's top 15. So I had to go around the country and educate people about what immigrants do for this country or the fact that we are a country of immigrants. Right, right. The fact is, ain't none of y'all

trying to go and farm right now. Okay, so I'm lying. Raise your hand. You're not. You're not. We're done picking cotton. You can't pay us enough to find a plantation.

Okay, so she's done picking cotton, so we have to get the guys from Honduras to do it. I don't know. It sounds like her hair may have been. She may have been out in the field that morning because she had a little rough look on that type of deal. I picked more cotton than Jasmine Crockett has because my grandparents were farmers. And I can tell you who the slaves were. It was their 13 kids and there were grandkids that were old enough to come around and help. And that's a joke, of course.

But we were, we weren't, the small farmer. And so she, well, you know what? I'm going to tell all my Democrat friends, please vote for Jasmine Crockett in the primary. Please vote for Jasmine. She's your choice. I mean, just look at her. She's saying all the right things. Just please vote for her.

Yeah. And she's poised. That's what I like about her. And she's, you know, I disagree with her politics, but it's her eloquence that just really, it floors me. And her, yes, her enunciations and all of those. types of things. I know we're not supposed to necessarily agree with President Trump when he says people have a low IQ, but I'm just not a big fan of Jasmine's ability to really put good, thoughtful sentences together because she just kind of, all she does is rant. What's her idea?

I want to know, what's your idea? What's your idea? Maybe her and Tala Rico will get together and they'll actually have some policy discussion. Who would be, just thought experiment, who would be more dangerous in that seat, Tala Rico or Crockett? Or is it basically the same because it'll just vote the same way? Well, they're all going to vote the same way, but Tala Rico is, my opinion, a lot more believable in the way he comes across than just because she's ranting all the time, right?

Yeah. And I'll tell you what, if Tala RICO's smart, he will bring up all what appears to be some misuse of funds by her campaign. Yeah. On the things she's spending money on. Even if it's not misuse, it's extravagance for sure. Shocking. Yeah.

Absolutely shocking. Yeah, I'd be more worried about just Talariko. His brand of Christianity is extremely troubling. And to see that kind of take root that just total heresy, not good, not good. I agree with that. So we'll see what, it's going to be interesting. But we're going to know, the interesting thing in Texas is we're going to know within 90 days. Yeah.

Really about 75 days will know who the Democrat nominee is. We probably won't know the Republican. It could be a runoff. And that's why I just encourage people. Look, you find your candidates of choice. Get out there and work for them. Help them. Talk to your neighbors.

Put signs in your yard. Put signs in the neighborhood. You know, don't complain if you're not willing to participate. Yeah. Okay. We've got some listener questions. All right. My favorite.

We got listener questions. And then we're just going to do one, like, lighthearted thing about Dick Van Dyke. Which one do you want to do first? Whatever. I'm following your lead. Okay, let me go ahead. That's why they call me co-host, not host, see, so we follow the host lead.

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my dad always listened to Rush and Charlie, not sure, he does not sure what to listen to now. Who do you listen to besides, of course, the wonderful, relatable podcast? Well, I mean, that's number one. Number one. I also listen to the O'Reilly.

He calls it a newscast. I called a podcast. It comes out like a podcast. I listen to O'Reilly. And then I will still do some Hannity, you know, if I want opinion-type stuff. Riley's much more of a news. Now, he has his opinion thrown in there. But he's a lot like, in some ways like you, as you throw out the news and you may overlay it with some of your opinion.

If I just want a hard opinion, I'll do that. I still like to watch Brett Bear in the afternoons. I think he does a good job. He's kind of down the middle guy. He's got a pretty good panels on there. And those are the ones that I follow the most. I do read the Wall Street Journal, although their opinion page, their opinion page is pretty conservative.

Their news page, not as conservative. Some of their columns are not as conservative. I think they're a little bit left-leaning on that. Yeah. And for Christian stuff, you still listen to the Robertsons? I still listen to the Robertsons. You know, we all miss Phil, but I love, I think they do a really good job. If you're interested guys and gals, but guys especially in a Bible study podcast, they're

very good at that. Now, they, you know, some of their episodes, they'll have 10 minutes of Bible study and 30 minutes of stories, which are, they're related, but they're, they're also very entertaining. And those guys are very knowledgeable. They believe, like you and I do, that we believe the Bible from Genesis to Maps, as Ziglar would say.

But I like listening to them for that. And I also listen to the Bible in a year with my pastor, Jack Graham. And I think that's pretty good to do as well. Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Next question.

Okay, this is actually a question that I wanted to ask earlier about, okay, so lots of divisions right now on the right. And I think a lot of us just did not realize how much Charlie Kirk was holding our coalition together. And he's gone and it feels extremely fractured. You've got some people over here saying that they don't even care about the midterms. They just, I don't know what they want exactly. They don't care about the midterms. Like Israel is a huge divide right now. it is a huge, huge divide, which, okay, I think it's fine to have disagreements about that.

But it has become, like, the number one form of name calling. Like, people will call me last week, the big attack. Ali is just a, she's just a Zionist who doesn't care about like dead, gauzen children. She's Israel first, which is actually just insane because I very rarely even talk about foreign policy. And I've been very clear about my own theological position. that I don't believe that Christians have the political obligation to support the state of Israel, but I do think it's smarter politics if you're going to pick between Hamas and Israel.

But I don't think you have an obligation. You can be America first. I'm not a dispensationalist. I've never talked about Zionism. But it's just become this thing that is like the fracturing of the right. And it worries me going into the midterms, going into 28, do we have? what are we going to rally around as a non-left coalition if we are so fundamentally fractured? Yeah, I think that it's a valid concern.

I think what we have to, I think what it'll end up being is we will, if we can rally around anything, it'll be rallying around the economy. Because at the end of the day, the most important thing, assuming there's not some geopolitical event that occurs is what happens in people's pocketbook. And that's what the Republicans need to be focusing on, is what happens in people's focus. And I don't think that necessarily means you've got to do a bunch more handouts, okay? I think that's one time our public officials think said, well, every time people are upset about something financial related, we need to give them more money. They don't think they need to do that.

I think what they want to see is a plan, which I think President Trump is actually doing a very good job of that. I mean, gas prices are down, you know, 40 or 50 percent, okay? inflation has stabilized to a historical level of two or three percent mortgage rates, and I know nobody likes 6 percent mortgage rate, but that's what they have averaged over the last 30 years, okay? What was the anomaly was the 3 percent and the 2 percent rates. That's not happening again, okay? Just forget about that.

You need to buy a home that you can afford with a 6 percent mortgage. And I'm sorry if it's not the home that you had in your mind when the interest rates were 3 percent, But that's what it's going to be. I don't see them changing a lot. I think it could go down in the high fives, but it's not going back to two or three percent unless there's a huge recession. That's the reason it happened last time. We had the great recession.

That's what caused it. And then COVID exacerbated that even more. So I think they have to focus on the economy and all the good things, the tax cuts that they allowed to stay in place and things like that. That's where I think we could rally around. When we look at our policies versus the Democrat policies on that, you know, more giveaways, more. more open borders, all those types of things that affect mine in your pocketbooks.

I think that's what we have to focus on. And we could rally around that. I don't know why we got in such of a split over Israel because I don't feel like America's, from a government standpoint, our position on Israel has been the same. We have, it's for president after president after president after president after, I just don't know why it got to be such a split. I'm not sure why that is, but it is. You're right about that.

Yeah. People would say, oh, well, people are waking up to A-PAC and how much influence Israel has. And if we want to say, look, we shouldn't have any influence from any foreign entities or any foreign PACs, okay. But there's a lot of non-Israel-related PACs and a lot of non-Israel-related money from Muslim-majority countries. And Muslim-majority countries also have influence over politicians in the United States, over our media, over our culture wars.

all of that. And you could say all of that is bad. I think that's fine. But it is, it is weird how we've got this splintering of now the right. You've got some people on the right saying, no, Israel is the real threat. And other people saying, well, actually, I think it's Islam. Like, I think it's all of these terrorist organizations. Anybody that says October 7th was okay, whatever position they're on, or not a big deal, they're absolutely wrong. So whatever position they take, they're wrong. Yeah. All right. That was nothing but murder. Murder, murder. A surprise terrorist attack. You know, and, you know, Trump's administration's got every hostage returned. Now, some of them had passed away, but they got, who else has done that? I mean, we literally had Israeli babies

that were taken hostage and murdered by Hamas. Like, so I just, I don't understand. You can be for a two-state solution and all that, but you can't be for that. And the fact that we have not. universally denounce that is what's crazy and you could also say because people are saying well what about the Christians and the babies in Gaza 1,000 percent those people are just as much made in the image of God as anyone else when I see them I see my kids I don't want them to suffer but they are suffering primarily because of Hamas absolutely primarily because of Hamas. When you bury your weapons below a hospital or a school or a church or a church yeah yeah and And I don't have, I've never been to Israel.

I've never talked to anyone who is tied to Israel. People want to say, oh, you're just, never. I have zero associations at all. Just to me, when I look at it, I'm like, I don't understand, again, how it became this thing, that if you denounce Hamas, then you must be paid or whatever. And why don't we have the same upro over what's happening as the Christians in Nigeria? Why do we not have that same thing? I mean, I don't.

We don't have. have that. I don't hear, I don't see a lot of Instagram posts on that and all that. What are we, what we do? Like over here on this side, but when you have the people that just want to focus on what Israel does wrong and not the fact that it's Muslims predominantly persecuting Christians and all kinds of people. Yeah, that's a good question. Just asking questions about that. Okay. What do you do, dad, when all of this is going on, all this craziness, all this chaos in the world to keep your eyes on Christ and to not let yourself spiral into a panic. Well, I think I have to honestly, one of the things that I remember is something that you say all the time about God's perfect

plan going off without a hitch. I reminded some people of that the other day at a men's Bible study that I go to that a lot of the guys listen to you. And then what I also try to do is make sure that the information that I'm getting is as factual as it can be. And, and then what I also try to do is, but I also will take periods where I back away from it a little bit, right? Because I don't want that, I don't want you to be able to see that on my face when I'm around my kids, grandkids and what have you. I think you have to look for a balance of finding things that give you joy during that time, you know, fun things, you know, whether it's a video of one of your kids saying something silly or one of Justin's kids saying something silly,

Those are the types of things that I try to do a balancing act with that. I don't, because you can't be a 24-hour news. Do not sit there and watch Fox News or MSNBC or anything or scroll on your phone all day. You have to bring some humor into your life. That's what I try to do. Yeah. I really, you know, I've been convicted as I've seen these like Charlie videos going around. You know, they're promoting his book right now that he finished before he died, which I just have to think was also God's Providence.

Because I've been in the middle of book projects, and I just know that if I had something had happened in the middle of toxic empathy, I don't know who could have finished it. So amazing that he finished that and that they're able to promote it. But hearing him talk about completely shutting off his phone from Friday evening to Saturday evening, totally putting it in a drawer, it's really convicted me. Because I'll tell myself I'm doing a Sabbath, but it's not really. It's not fully unplugged. See, I think your phone's cut off a lot because I don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't. I do forget where my phone is a lot. So that's a mini-sabth throughout the day.

My mind is on a mini-sabth because I'm forgetting where my phone is. But one concentrated and intentional Sabbath from your phone. I think that's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I also think just being plugged into your family, people ask me all the time, how do you talk about all this stuff and like stay happy? And I truly do. Sometimes I get down.

I'll admit the past few months have been hard. Yeah. They've been really hard. The past few weeks have been really hard. And I feel it actually, like in my body. I feel stress. I don't usually feel like that. Timothy will tell you that actually one of the, like, frustrating, he would say one

of the favorite things, but also the most frustrating things about me is that when everything is really stressful and tensions are really high, I get really quiet and I slow down. Yeah. And my voice gets quieter. and he's like, her literal pace gets slower. I'm like trying to get somewhere fast. And I'm like, I really. I do the same thing.

I really do. I have to tell myself to do it, though. Yes. I have to tell myself. I don't know that it's natural to me as it is to you, but I try to tell myself the same thing because the reason that's important is because you don't think as clearly when you're, you know, everything's hyped up. You don't.

You can think quickly, but not clearly. Yeah. And folks, remember what I just said? Make sure you're thinking clearly not quickly. Yeah. Now, it's great if you can do both, but most of us can't. In a high-stress situation, it's hard to do. You'll see great athletes.

They're really great athletes. I always think about quarterbacks and football. The really great ones, the game slows down for them when it gets tighter and tighter. And for the other ones that are still really good athletes, it gets faster and faster and you make mistakes. That's a really good analogy, actually. Okay. Let's quickly end on. Well, some sad, but just a happy reflection of a life of a hundred years in Dick Van Dyke in

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I loved Mary Poppins. Of course, Mom made me watch every old show out there and every old movie. I think that's where, like, Justin and I in particular got our sense of humor, watched a lot of old sitcoms. Maybe some inappropriate ones, like Three's Company and Taxi. You probably should not have watched. Probably when I was seven, maybe shouldn't have watched that. Benefit of being the youngest.

But loved Dick Van Dyke. Yes. Just so funny. Well, I don't know. If you ever have a chance to go online and look at the clip of the entrance to the start of the Dick Van Dyke's show on how he stumbles over. Slapstick. Oh, he is so. And Mary Tyler Moore was great as well, you know.

But think about in his hundred years what he has witnessed. Yes. Born in 1925. And so he went through the market crash. Of course he was just four years old. But his parents, he lived in a house, went through the 29 crash, was one of the biggest. crashes in history in the financial markets, went through World War II. He was in World War II. Okay. He served in World War II. Wow. Saw the Korean War, Vietnam, all of that type of stuff,

saw the jet age, the television age, the internet. Saw Al Gore invent the internet, which is amazing that you could do that. And now we see an A, I mean, just, what an incredible life he has lived. Yes. Okay. This fact blew my mind. This is, and obviously this is true. We don't even have to fact-tucket it, but if you will pull up this post from history calendar. So at age 100, Dick Van Dyke was born closer to the death of Thomas Jefferson than he is to the present day, like then his birth was to the present day, obviously 99 years apart from the death of Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson died in 1826, Dick Van Dyke born in 1925. So think about how crazy that is. That doesn't even make any sense, does it? I know.

I mean, it just shows you what, how young the country is. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I mean, that's just so crazy to think about everything that he has lived through. And he's pretty spry. He still is very spry.

I know. It's interesting. But, no, he, you know, Mary Poppins, one of my favorite movies. When your middle brother and I went to London when he was, come up, out of high school. He and I went to London because somebody had just had a baby. But anyway, we went over there and we went to see this show called Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. And it was a play at the time. And when it first came out years and years before that, it was a Dick Van Dyke thing. And it was really good. So that's another movie that you could have your kids watch. It's a,

it's fun. If you got things going on over the holiday, just to get your kids look up cheity, cheaty, cheetah, bame. I'm sure it's out there on one of the streaming shows. And Julie Andrews, who played Mary Poppins, she's still alive as well. And I think they're friends. So he was asking an interview, like, what is the secret to living this long and not only living this long, but being this with it for this long? Here's what he said, so 12.

I feel really good. But for a hundred, you know, that I really don't, I have no pain, no discomfort. People say, what did you do right? And I say, don't ask. I don't know. I'm rather lazy. And I think I've always thought that anger is one thing that eats up a person's insides and hate. And I never really was able to work up a feeling of hate.

You know, the things I don't like, people I don't like and disapprove of. But I never really was able to do a white. he'd kind of hate. And my father was a person who was constantly upset by the state of things and his life and everything. And I did take him at 74 years old. I think that is one of the chief things that kept me going. I think that's right.

No, I think it's kind of what you were talking about earlier is that if you kind of get eaten up inside. Now, one of the things that allows that to not be eaten up, I think if I had to guess people like his dad, that the situation of life or the state of the country at the time, whatever ate him up, is mainly because he didn't take any action. When we just let things, you know, just eat up inside us and we're not taking any action about it, like if we're mad at politics, then get out there and do something about it, right?

But you have to, you have to, you can be disappointed in something. You can not like something. But if you let it eat you up inside and consume you, that's what he's talking about. He never let it consume him. And I think that's a very, very good lesson for all of us. Because I can tend to get that way. I can tend to, uh, uh, you know. Yeah.

And, you know, no need in doing that. Yeah, that's a good point about action. It doesn't mean being apathetic and just doing nothing and pretending that politics doesn't exist. You focus on doing the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. You focus on that. You're not going to change the world. You can't change everyone's mind. That's hard for me.

It really bothers me. When people don't see what is true, it really bothers me. And there's a good thing about that bothering me. That's why I do what I do. But I have to release that to the Lord and say, okay, it does, you know what? That's not why I'm doing that. If that person never changes their mind, I'm doing this because God called me to do it. And you stay in that lane, and that releases a lot of pressure.

So it was a good lesson. Okay, Dad, thanks so much. Enjoyed it. Merry Christmas to everyone. We will be back here, just me. We'll be back here on Wednesday. No.