Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1283 | Is Tucker Carlson Right About Islam?
Episode Date: January 5, 2026Allie launches 2026 unpacking alarming trends: NYC's new socialist mayor, Zohran Mamdani, sworn in on the Quran, vowing to replace "rugged individualism" with "the warmth of collectivism" — echoing ...the deadly history of communism that claimed over 100 million lives through forced "equality" and state tyranny. She exposes radical Islam's inherent conquest drive, from global jihad to Western infiltration, while addressing Tucker Carlson's downplaying of the threat. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz (D) decides not to run for re-election following allegations of widespread fraud from Somali immigrants. Plus, Trump's bold capture of Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro. Biblical truth over toxic empathy: Reject collectivist lies, confront Islamist dangers head-on, and trust God's sovereign plan amid chaos. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://www.toxicempathy.com --- Timecodes: (00:00) Welcome Back! (09:50) Unpacking Zohran Mamdani's Speech (11:50) What is Collectivism? (21:00) What is Individualism? (25:50) Muslim Dominance in America (33:55) Responding to Tucker Carlson (39:18) Casualties of Radical Islam (44:48) Minnesota Fraud (56:20) Venezuela's Maduro Deposed (01:04:00) The Right After Charlie Kirk --- Today's Sponsors: Every Life | Visit EveryLife.com and use promo code “ALLIE10” to get 10% off your first order today! Fellowship Home Loans | Start with a free consultation at FellowshipHomeLoans.com/Allie and receive a $500 credit at closing. Terms apply. See site for details. Ghost Bed | Ghost Bed is giving you the best deal of the year plus an extra 10% when you use the code ALLIE at GhostBed.com/Allie. Good Ranchers | Visit GoodRanchers.com today. Use my promo code ALLIE for an extra $25 off your first order, on top of the $500 you’ll save every year just by subscribing. Paleo Valley | Right now, you can get 15% off your first order at PaleoValley.com with code ALLIE. PreBorn | For just $28 — the cost of a dinner — you can sponsor an ultrasound to introduce a mother to her baby for the first time. 100% of your donation will go toward saving babies. Will you help us? Just dial #250 and say the keyword BABY. Or donate securely at PreBorn.com/ALLIE. --- Episodes you might like: Ep 1255 | Jihad vs. Jesus: Islam’s Plan to Conquer Christian America | Raymond Ibrahim https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000732327165 Ep 1273 | Autism Fraud, Islamic Corruption & a Crucial Tennessee Election https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000739184571 Ep 1270 | Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria? | Judd Saul https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000737836595 --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (and That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": https://www.alliebethstuckey.com Relatable merchandise: Use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey
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The new mayor of New York City was sworn in on the Quran and is encouraging us to embrace the warmth of collectivism.
What has the warmth of collectivism looked like for the past 100 years?
Also, Tim Walz has dropped out of the governor race because of Somalian fraud there in the state,
and Tucker Carlson is warning us about the danger of Islamophobia.
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Hey, y'all. Happy New Year and happy Monday. It is January 5th in the year of our Lord,
2006. And to kick off this first episode of Relatable for the year, we do have some breaking news.
This is exclusive to Relatable. Let me just check my notes to make sure that I have this correct.
Yes, it is correct. God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch. Everything is
going according to his plan without fail, without faltering. And because of that, today is a great day.
Today is the day that the Lord is made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. Today is a great day to do
the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And so let us kick off not
only this day and this week with that really, really good news, but this year, God's mercies are new
every morning. Lamentations 323 reminds us of that. And so no matter,
what happened last year or yesterday or in the last hour, God's mercies are new for you. And that is
really great news. In the Stucky world, we had a wonderful, mostly restful break in our home. We had
lots of quality family time. We had lots of brisket. That is Chief Relatorbrose signature.
It's so good. Every time he makes brisket, it is like top notch. I think he could sell it.
It's so good. We had lots of cookies. But I am.
excited and grateful, even though the break was so wonderful and so good. I am so excited to be back
here. And I'm so grateful to be with you all. So thankful for all of you who allow relatable to exist
and have allowed it to exist for, let's see, it's 2026 or eight years almost, eight years in March.
For those who are new, if you are new to relatable, it's your New Year's resolution to listen to
relatable. That's a great resolution. Welcome. I am Ali Beth Suckie. I am a Christian. I'm a wife. I'm a
mom. I have been hosting Relatable, like I just said, since 2018, coming up on those eight
years. That's crazy. Almost a decade. We have been talking about culture, theology, parenting,
health, news, politics from a Christian conservative perspective for all of that time.
We have talked to Donald Trump. We've talked to Kat Von Dee, John McArthur, Candace Cameron Bure,
so many other people, so many other people over the years. Most of our audience is women.
Most of those women are young moms. But we have lots of
people in lots of different age ranges and backgrounds and stages of life. And we also, of course,
love and appreciate our related bros. I host a women's conference called Share the Arrows every year.
We've done that twice where the women who attend here from, I believe, the most solid Christian
teachers of our day about how to apply the Word of God to every area of our lives. Last year,
God graciously allowed 6,700 women to come to this conference, Lord willing.
We will be announcing the date for Share the Arrow's 2026 very soon.
So stay tuned for that.
That is my quick introduction and summary about who I am, what I do here.
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Today I want to set us up.
This is for me and for all of you to give us some context to see where we are as we start this year, 26.
We have just come out of that kind of two-week period where we don't know what day of the week it is.
We don't know what's going on.
Your diet fell off the rails.
Your routine is all out of whack.
And it feels like those first few moments after waking up from a long nap in the middle
of the day, which I have not done in a long time.
But if you think back to maybe your college days when you're like, you're done with class,
you go to bed, you wake up at 6 p.m.
And you're totally disoriented.
And you're like, okay, where am I?
What time is it?
What am I supposed to be doing right now?
And those are actually the exact three questions that I want to address today.
Where are we? What time is it? And what are we supposed to be doing right now as Christians,
as women, as moms? I want us to orient ourselves as best as we can so that we don't spend
the first quarter of the year, the first half of the year, getting our bearings while there
is work to be done in this world, in our lives, in our community. So right now, we need to
understand where exactly we are, what moment we're in in this timeline of eternity and what our role is
and all of that. As you guys know, I've been saying this for a long time. Clarity is kindness and
courage is contagious. And so today, as always, I want you to end this episode feeling like I have
passed on to you by the grace of God, both clarity and courage, because times are really confusing
and maybe more confusing than they've ever been in a lot of ways. And I'll explain that. And the gifts
that we can give to those around us, to our kids, to our friends, to our neighbors,
whomever is in our big or small circle of influence, our clarity and courage. So where are we?
What time is it? And what should we be doing? At first, we will answer where we are.
This involves looking at where we are as a country politically, ideologically, by looking at a few
big things happening that say a lot about this moment. Maldani in New York, Maduro, in Venezuela,
the Islamic Marxist alliance that no longer dominates just the left but is actually growing and
influence of popularity on the right as well. And then what time is it? And this has a spiritual
answer. So we'll look at what this all means about the spiritual moment that we're in. And what does
God's words say about all of this? How should we be thinking about these issues that we're going
through? And then lastly, what is our role? What should we be doing as Christians, as citizens,
also as moms and wives and neighbors and friends, church members, where are we? What time is it? What should we be doing?
So whether you are waking up from a two-week slumber because of Christmas break or whether you have spent your whole life unplugged from the goings-on of the world and what the truth of God's word says about them, it's time to wake up.
The verse that came to mind while preparing the segment was Ephesians 514, awake, go sleeper, and a run.
from the dead and Christ will shine on you. You guys know, as I've said many times, that politics
matter because policy matters because people matter. The ideas behind our politics affect
our policy, which affects people. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter
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Okay, this first question, where are we?
Well, we're in a place where Islam and Marxism are unabashedly aligned to crush Western
civilization.
Now, I'll be honest.
I must have not had my finger on the pulse exactly when it came to socialism.
I thought that we were kind of done with that.
After Bernie Sanders didn't win the presidential primary and AOC, yes, she's.
She, of course, is still in political power.
She still has some influence.
But her brand kind of fell out of vogue.
She wasn't as trendy anymore.
And you just didn't hear this word socialism or democratic socialism quite as much.
I did not realize that people were still buying this nonsense.
But here we are.
This combination of Islamic dominance and Marxism is actually embodied in one person.
And this is the new mayor of New York City.
His name is Zoran Mamdani.
He just celebrated his inauguration and gave this speech.
And it's troubling a lot of people, including me, Sot 1.
We will draw this city closer together.
We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
All right.
We're going to hone in on that last line.
Mamdani was also sworn in on the Quran.
We'll get to the Islamic aspect of this in a second.
But first, let's focus on what he just said there, the elevation of the ideology of collectivism, the warmth of collectivism, he said, which is responsible for the deaths of at least 100 million people in the 20th century alone.
And I posted that on X and I posted it on Instagram and I got some people asking genuinely, wait, what does that mean?
What is collectivism?
And what do you mean by saying that it's responsible for 100 million deaths and only the 1900?
So let's break this down. Collectivism is the umbrella term for communism, socialism, and I would even say
fascism, because all of these systems in their own ways prioritize the good of the group over the good
of the individual. And maybe with that definition, you think, okay, that sounds good. That sounds
compassionate. You're taking care of those who can't take care of themselves. Maybe you even think
that that sounds Christian. But here's the catch. The government gets to define what that good is. And you,
as the individual do not get a say. It's also not just for the benefit of the group at the expense of
the benefit for the individual, but it is also the rights, so called of the group at the expense
of the rights of the individual. And if you don't understand exactly what that means, you don't
have to take my word for it in my description. We can look at what collectivism actually has looked like
tangibly throughout history, and we don't have to go back that far. If we look at, for example,
communist Cambodia in the 1970s, Paul Pott imposed agrarian collectivism. That means he abolished
all private land ownership. He forced people out of cities and into these rural communes. He
confiscated all money. He shut down all markets. He forced people to work in rice fields. And this was
to create what sounded very compassionate, very oppressionless. And that was,
was a classless society. And theoretically, there would be no more inequality. There would be no
more oppression of the poor because the rich guy wouldn't have more than the little guy. And this was
to accomplish what they called a reset that probably sounds familiar if you've been listening to
this podcast and an arrival at year zero where the communists believe that they could start over
and build a new classless, oppressionless, oppositionless society where everyone would share
and everyone would be happy because everyone would have what they need.
And so to achieve this end, forcing people out of the cities, forcing them into these communes,
two million Cambodians were killed.
25% of the population.
Hundreds of thousands died from starvation.
The communal farms didn't work.
They couldn't produce the food that was necessary.
Other hundreds of thousands were tortured to death.
They were murdered with pickaxes specifically because Kamar,
Rouge, the regime of Paul Pott, wanted to save bullets. The murders were so vast in Paul Potts'
communist world that there were swaths of land dubbed the killing fields. Maybe you've heard of
books about this, or maybe you've heard of the killing fields. There are documentaries. There
are a lot of historical analyses of what was going on in these killing fields and how horrific
it is. I will just will give you a trigger warning. If you're going to learn about
this, you need to prepare yourself because it's not for the faint of hearts. Children were
kidnapped from families and forced to serve in the regime. The slogan of Kumar Rouge was
to keep you is no gain and to lose you is no loss. And that right there, that slogan typifies.
It summarizes what the warmth of collectivism is. That is the warmth of collectivism. That as long as the
collective goal is being achieved in the eyes of the government, in the eyes of the leader,
the individual doesn't matter at all. The country still has not fully recovered.
50 years later, that's what communism does. That's what collectivism does.
It destroys. And then if you look at China in the mid-20th century, China's communist leader,
Mao Zedong, set out to create this classless communist society again to alleviate the oppression
that came from inequality.
And so first he implemented land reform
in which private land was seized
from the evil landlords
and redistributed to peasants.
That actually is very familiar,
very similar to a lot of the rhetoric
that you hear from someone like Zoran Mamdani,
that these private landowners
or these landlords are really the cause
and the source of the oppression,
which of course is not true.
Now it sounds compassionate
to redistribute land and property to peasants.
But the landlords were publicly
tortured. They were humiliated in what were called struggle sessions. And these rituals were used not just
for landlords as they were in the beginning, but they were used for decades to shame Mao's
political opposition. I mean, people were literally put in the city center and they were flogged
and they were shamed and they were made fun of. And they were tortured until they relented,
until they said, okay, I support Mao or I relent on whatever position I had that was not acceptable
to the communist regime. Many of these landlords were just out.
outright executed, as was most of the political opposition.
There was a great leap forward in communist China of the late 50s and early 60s that
attempted to turn China from agrarian to industrial.
And this meant abolishing all private farming and turning all farming communal, much like Cambodia.
And this was collective forced labor to produce the food that would then be distributed to
all who needed it.
Of course, it didn't work.
40 million people died from starvation.
This was actually the deadliest famine in human history.
The deadliest famine in human history was because of communism.
It wasn't the Irish potato famine.
It wasn't some famine in the Middle Ages or in biblical times.
The deadliest famine in all of human history happened in the 1960s in China because of communism,
because of the warmth of collectivism.
Mal's cultural revolution from the 60s to the 70s recruited kids into the Red Guard,
which was responsible for murdering all those that were perceived as the enemies of communism.
And so all in all, scholars estimate that up to 80 million people were murdered or died as a result of Mal's policies in those 27 years of his reign.
That is the warmth of collectivism.
And we could go on and on.
Linden and Stalin's Russia, which forced collectivism and abolished individualism and killed about 20 million people.
Mugabe Zimbabwe, which promised liberation from the colonizer and redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor via forced collectualism.
and is irreparably plummeted a once wealthy country into poverty and oppression,
the Philippines, Germany, so many others.
When you push collectivism, people die.
It's not better.
Not for anyone ever in any way.
It is evil.
It sounds good because it's sold via toxic empathy.
Look at this poor person and this rich person.
Don't you want to fight for the little guy?
Isn't it unfair that this rich guy has so much?
and this little guy has so little, isn't it unfair that you struggle while your landlord is getting
rich by charging you so much rent? Wouldn't it feel good to take from this rich, powerful guy and give
to the little guy? It sounds good, but it doesn't work ever. And that's exactly why two of the
big Ten Commandments have to do with the legitimacy of private property, or that's part of why.
God says in two of the Ten Commandments, you shall not steal and not only that, but you shall not
covet. So not only do you not have the right to what someone else has. You can't even want what
someone else has. It's not yours. Now, did Israel have an obligation to care for the poor? Yes,
the foreigner, yes, but not through the abolition of private property and forced communal labor.
By the way, I find it interesting that the progressives who like to cite and misrepresent the Old
Testament rules about helping the needy or not at all interested in the Old Testament rules
when it comes to homosexuality and immigration and things like that. They also cite the early church
and they'll say this was communism, but the early church in Acts gave what they had to one another
and had, quote, all things in common. But they did so voluntarily. They were not forced to give up
the property at gunpoint by the government, which is what collectivism is. They were empowered by the
Holy Spirit to do so. That's the only way this works. Work and production and earning what you have are
ideas. Adam was placed in the garden to relax. No, to work and to keep it. Genesis 2.15, the curse was not
work. The curse was working and producing nothing. Proverbs praises diligence and condemns not working,
saying a slack hand causes poverty. Proverbs 10. 4. 2 Thessalonius 310 condemns slothfulness,
insisting that one who is not willing, not unable, but not willing to work shouldn't even eat.
generosity is a biblical idea but generosity by nature is not forced you paying taxes is not generous if you don't
you'll go to jail so that's not generosity second corinthians nine seven says that god loves a cheerful
giver not one who gives because they're forced to under compulsion so there's nothing biblical
about collectivism it steals it kills it destroys who does that sound like now what about individualism
individualism is the idea that you are responsible for your actions, your future, and that through
hard work you can succeed. This is not to be confused with selfishness or self-sitterness,
however, which says that the individual's desires and ambitions always matter more than anyone
else's needs. That's not good either. The foundational American belief, which is a biblical belief,
is that the individual matters in and of himself, that he has incredible value because he is a person
and people are made by a creator who, as our Declaration of Independent States, has given us the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property that no government can arbitrarily take away, not in the name of power, not in the name of compassion, not in the name of vengeance, not in the name of anything.
We also believe in the individual's ability to chart his own path, to take ownership of his or her life, to start a family, to work hard, and to really, truly own what he has, not just rent it from the government.
We don't negate the importance of shared values as a nation.
They're actually necessary for us to function.
We do have to have some sort of collective value system.
We don't negate the necessity of community and church and family.
In fact, I love this quote by Milton Friedman, the economist, he said the family rather
than the individual, has always been and remains today the basic building block of our society.
Collectivism not only diminishes the individual, it attempts to replace the family,
whether it's Paul Pot or Stalin or Hitler, every collectivist dictator attempts to weaken the family
because the dad-mom child entity is so perfectly designed by God as a bulwark against predators,
whether in the government or otherwise. The weaker ones are protected by the stronger,
the woman nurturing the child and tempering the man, the man fighting for and protecting the woman and child.
Christianity, therefore, is inherently problematic for tyrants,
especially the collectivist kind because of its reliance on the cohesion of the family but also because of its
insistence upon worshiping God not the government relying on the church not the state working for and earning
what you have and taking care of those in need yourself rather than stealing what is needed from
others via politicians Christianity is and should be a boil on the back of dictators
we should be an obstacle to those who wish to do harm to the most vulnerable.
That has been our history.
You should read the Gulag Archipelago.
And you'll learn about the warmth of collectivism
and how Christianity stood against tyranny and the 20th century.
That is our legacy.
That is our history.
And it still has to be today.
From Nero to Newsome.
From Mussolini to Mamdani.
Christ reigns.
And Christians, simply by being Christians, have to live that out with clarity and courage.
From the 7th century when Islam was established to today, for 1,300 years, Christianity has had to defend itself for 2,000 years, not only against tyrants, but 1,300 years also against the attacks of Islamists.
And for some reason, some people think that things are different now.
They're not.
The mayor of an American city putting his hand on the Quran for his swearing in is not a positive
or neutral sign. It is a sign that we are being conquered by this Islamist, Marxist, machine, and regime.
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Here is Momdani being sworn in on the Quran in New York City.
This is NYC, America's biggest city.
In many ways, it is the hub of American industry.
And at one time, the crown jewel of American life.
Like New York City is often what people abroad think about exclusively when they think about
America.
It's like New York, Texas, Alligators, Beach.
It is, whether we like it or not, the international representation of America's brand,
which is exactly why, of course, on September 11th,
2001, Al-Qaeda, a Muslim terrorist group targeted New York City and an attack that killed
2,753 people. And this was the deadliest attack on our soil. It tops Pearl Harbor,
it tops the Oklahoma City bombing, and every other act of aggression on American land since
the Civil War. This was mass murder and it was committed by Muslims who hate America and
hate the West and hate Christians and Jews, what bin Laden called the Zionist Crusader
Alliance. And they felt that it was their duty to Allah to kill as many Americans.
Americans is possible. And that was only 24 and a half years ago. And now here we are in that very
place allowing that very ideology to gain power and prominence in New York and throughout the
country. Now, listen, am I saying that Mamdani is in any way responsible for that? No, he's not.
And he shouldn't be held responsible for that. We don't believe in generational responsibility and
collective punishment. No Muslim is responsible for what another Muslim does, just so
is no Christian or no white person or no Chinese person, et cetera, is responsible for the actions of
someone who shares the creator skin color or nationality. We've talked many times about the definition
of justice, according to the God who created justice. When we look at God's law giving to Israel,
we see what legal justice is, and it is among other things, direct. No one bears a punishment for
what their father did. Ezekiel 1820 says, the soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for
the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. But that's not the
argument for the warning against Islam. The argument is that Islam as a religion is inherently
violent, inherently imperialistic, inherently conquest driven, inherently at odds with Christianity,
inherently at odds with the Constitution, because it is necessarily theocratic. Islam means
submission and the goal of Islam is to make Islamic nations in which Sharia is implemented and all
infidels and blasphemers are put to death. And in that world, there's no free speech. There's no
freedom of religion. There's no First and Second Amendment. There's no rugged individualism.
When Charlie Kirk said that Islamic ideology and the Constitution are incompatible, this is what he meant.
It's not about demonizing individual Muslims who can be kind neighbors and friends. Of course,
this is about the belief system as a whole. And before I give an example of that, I do also
just want to point out here. This headline is from Fox News. Mumdani Tapp's controversial lawyer who defended
Al Qaeda terrorist for top role and called him a powerful advocate. Romsey Kassem's record also
includes serving as a top advisor for immigration on the White House Domestic Policy Council during
the Biden admin. And so Al Qaeda, the group responsible for the largest terrorist attack, mass murder on
American soil just about 25 years ago, the guy who defended them, one of the attorneys who
defended them, is now in a position of power in New York City, thanks to Zoran Mamdani.
I think that's worth noting.
And again, that goes to show that Islam is not apologetic as a whole about those things
that have happened, but they understand that this is simply a part of the process.
of jihad and Islamic dominance. Here are two scholars, Muslim scholars, on Patrick Bet David's show,
confirming to enact Muslim that in a Sharia-run country, which is the goal that he would be
put to death, Sat 10. In a proper Islamic jurisdiction, an Islamic nation, all of the laws of
Islam and the Sharia, as revealed by God, should be applied. So if we were in that kind of state,
Would you do it?
Including, including, including with proper due process, with a proper court hearing, just like any nation of laws, the laws of the Sharia should be applied, including the death penalty for not only apostates, but also blasphemers.
You didn't answer me, yes or no?
We did answer you.
Yes, we did answer.
Yes.
So I should be killed.
We did answer your question.
I deserved to be killed because I left Islam and became a Christian.
According to Islamic law, an apostate like you would be killed, yes.
Okay.
Thank you.
at least you'd get due process. At least there'd be a judge and a jury in the United States
stand. And that could confirm whether or not you had blasphemed by being a Christian and then
you would get put to death. And these, by the way, those kind of scholars are considered like
the moderate types and they're acknowledging what the goal is. And this is the ideology of the
people who have taken positions of power in Michigan and Minnesota, New York and London
in Belgium and Paris. I'm not saying that they all believe exactly that, but this is the ideology.
It's the ideology responsible for ramming through Christmas markets across Europe, for
murdering cartoonists who insult Muhammad, and for the lion's share of the world's terrorism,
for the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, throughout the Middle East. This is not Islamophobia.
Phobia means an irrational fear. This is rational. This is a justified concern.
This is looking at the last 1,300 years of Islam and noticing the unmistakable
pattern that the Islamic belief system cannot peacefully coexist with Christian Western civilization for
very long. But you've got some people on the right quite suddenly to me from my perspective who are
asserting that it is actually hatred of Muslims to point this out. You've got Tucker Carlson,
someone that I have been a huge fan of for many years and who have admired, I've admired him for
many years. I'm sure I still agree with him on a lot of things. But he was interviewed by an
outlet called the American Conservative. And he was asked about his condemnation of, quote,
Islamophobia in his America Fest speech. And just to give you some context, here's part of that
speech thought too. What you're watching now? Attacking people on the attacking millions of Americans
because they're Muslims? It's disgusting. And I'm a Christian. I'm not a Muslim. I'm never going to,
I know there's a lot of effort to claim I'm a secret jihadi. I'm not. You should not attack people
on those grounds. And you're seeing it from Republic. What the hell are you doing? What's your
doing is trying to divide the country. And I've lived through 50 years of this crap. All these fake
race wars that they're always promoting. Oh, go hate each other while we loot the treasury. That's
exactly what's going on. And most people are totally sick of that. Okay, I really want to respond to that.
But let me keep going with his explanation and the American conservative and then I'll respond. So he told
this to this journalist at Amcon, he said, how is hating all Muslims better than hating all Jews? And the answer
obviously is it's not. And does that mean hating their children? Do we have to hate their children? I guess
we do. Their ancestors, their grandchildren. The whole thing is disgusting. First of all, Christians aren't
supposed to hate anybody. I heard I certainly hated a lot of people. I'm not judging. We may disapprove
as people as individuals, but we can't start holding their children responsible for their crimes or else
we're done. And then he goes on to say, I know a lot of Muslims who are deeply human and good people.
I've just traveled a lot and I've never taken a dollar from a Muslim, blah, blah, blah. He said clean conscience,
thinking that every Muslim is Osama bin Laden,
like you just don't know anything and why don't you sit this one out?
Okay.
Turning point,
ask its attendees at Amthest whether their top concern for the country was,
what their top concern for the country is.
And the top answer was radical Islam.
So Tucker was asked about this in this interview and he said that this idea,
being fearful of radical Islam and this big top concern about it.
it. He says it comes from the Israeli government. I don't know anyone in the United States in the last 24
years who has been killed by radical Islam. I know people who have died because of drug ODs and then he
goes on to list some other things like DEI that are affecting the country. Okay, here's my response
to this. First, that's a false choice right there. That's a logical fallacy because we don't have to
choose. He's presenting a choice. Like, we have to choose between caring about radical Islam and
caring about ODs from fentanyl and DEI. I care about both of those things a lot because I care about
people. I care about vulnerable people. So I care about both of those injustices. We can care about both
and we should. So I'm not sure why it's presented as like a necessary choice. It's not. That's a
false binary. Second, if I found out that Islam, that radical Islam was just a psychological
operation by the Israeli government, I would be thrilled.
Like if you told me that Nigerian Christians and Ugandan Christians aren't really being kidnapped and murdered by Islamic terrorists,
that Germany is actually able to celebrate Christmas publicly in safety,
that France doesn't actually have to put up blockades for public events because of Muslims ramming vans into crowds,
that the Middle East is actually a safe place to travel as a Christian woman and that England hasn't been infested with Islamic child rape gangs,
that two U.S. service members weren't just murdered in D.C.
in November by a man screaming Allahu Akbar, that TSA isn't really necessary because
Al-Qaeda crashed planes into the Pentagon in the Twin Towers, that none of that is real.
And that I can just rest easy knowing that it's all just an Israeli up.
Wow, that would be great news.
But it's not true.
No, the real psychological operation, the real Psiop is always, don't believe your eyes and ears.
don't notice.
Focus on this secret thing over here that only I can really see and show you.
It's like when the government a couple of years ago tried to tell us that the number one
source of terrorism is from right-wing white supremacists and we're all like, what?
Wouldn't I have heard about this?
Like wouldn't Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid be telling me these stories if this was something
that was really happening?
But the government was like, don't believe your eyes and ears.
Don't believe what you see.
It's really the secret group over here that we have secret.
intelligence about. It's like some kind of form of sophisticated
gnosticism. Tucker, like I said, like I think that he has been so right and first
and right on so many things over the years. And I've really respected that. I just believe
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Let's talk about some of the statistics
about the victims of Islamic terror.
Let's go through just a few.
This is according to CBS, PBS,
in 2002, a Los Angeles
International Airport shooting.
Two people were killed and four wounded
by an Egyptian immigrant
motivated by anti-Israel,
and jihadist ideology. In 2006, UNC. Chapel Hill SUV attack, nine people injured, thankfully,
none fatally, by an Iran native who intentionally drove an SUV into a crowd on campus to avenge
the deaths of Muslims worldwide. That's according to NBC. In 2006, Seattle Jewish Federation shooting
one person killed, five wounded by a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, who declared himself a quote,
Muslim American angry at Israel. In 2009, the Little Rock office shooting, one person killed and one
person wounded by an American-born convert to Islam who claimed inspiration from jihadist ideology
had ties to al-Qaeda. That's according to CNN. 2009, Fort Hood shooting, 14 people, including
an unborn child, killed. 32 wounded by an American-born army major of Palestinian descent
who communicated with a preacher linked to al-Qaeda. 2013 Boston Marathon bomb.
Not that long ago. Four people killed and more than 260 wounded by Islamist brothers.
2015 Chattanooga shootings. Five people killed and two wounded by a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Kuwait
and killed who killed five people inspired by quote foreign terrorist propaganda, according to FBI and CNN.
2015 San Bernardino shooting 14 people killed 21 wounded by a guy who pledged allegiance to
ISIS. This was actually by a married couple. 2016, Pulse nightclub shooting. 49 people killed,
at least 66 wounded at an Orlando nightclub by an American born to Afghan parents who pledged
allegiance to ISIS. 2017, New York City truck attack, eight people killed 12 wounded by guy who
provided material support to ISIS. 2019 Pentechola Naval Air Station shooting. Three people killed,
eight wounded by a Saudi Air Force lieutenant training in the U.S. linked to al-Qaeda.
In 2025, New Orleans Bourbon Street truck attack, 14 people killed, at least 57 wounded by a Texan army veteran in convert to Islam.
An ISIS flag was displayed on the vehicle.
But also, in 2014, this one is really important.
There was an American journalist by the name of Stephen Sautlough.
He was captured by ISIS in Syria and he was beheaded.
ISIS released a video showing Sotlof's murder.
Sotlough was a writer for the daily...
caller that was an outlet that Tucker Carlson co-founded in 2010. So that is simply objectively not true.
I'm not sure how the Israeli government could be responsible for a psychological operation that
simply involves using our eyes. Now Tucker is right that Christians are called to love our neighbors.
we are called to want the best for them. However, it is never loving to lie. It is not loving to stay silent
about evil ideologies like Islam, even though there are Islamic neighbors and friends whose maybe
contributions to our community, we value. Romans 12.9, let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil,
hold fast to what is good. Ephesians 511, take no.
part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
Matthew 7.15, beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
1.1, Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
And so, Christians are called to never rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoice with the truth.
love is inextricably intertwined with the truth.
And if you listen to my conversation with Raymond Ibrahim, who has been studying and writing
about the history of Islam for many decades now, he will tell you that the motivation behind
the Christian soldiers throughout history who fought against the predation of Islam was actually
Agape love.
It was not conquest.
It was a desire to protect the women and children who could not defend themselves.
the first Barbary War in America was not fought because of conquest,
but to protect America, our freedoms, our women, and children against the predation of Islam.
And so this very, like, weak form of Christianity, which is not at all bothered by evil
and is not at all bothered by the slaughter of vulnerable Christians elsewhere
and can't name the ideology for fear of being called some kind of bigot,
or phobe, that is not the Christianity throughout history that has been the boil on the back
of tyrants and is pushed back against the dictatorships that have harmed vulnerable people
throughout history. It's just not. It is completely unfamiliar to the saints that have gone
before us. But also, we see different forms of Islam and its pervasiveness in our country.
It's not only about the casualties that we have seen.
It is also through mass migration, high levels of fraud in places like the Minnesota government.
And we don't have time to get into this entire story, but I just want to give this example.
And I think Tucker would probably would agree.
I think he stays solid when it comes to immigration, that when you import the third world,
especially when you import a particular ideology that is hostile to the Constitution.
You bring not only risk of violence and risk of physical casualties, but you also bring in risk
of corruption.
And when we look at the Somali population in Minnesota, we see through this stunning report
that it is rife with fraud.
We talked about last month some of the fraud problems happening, but now we have this
independent journalist named Nick Shirley, who released a video titled, I Investigated
Minnesota's billion dollar fraud scandal. He released this the day after Christmas in which he and a fellow
investigator visited multiple daycare facilities in the Somali community that were receiving federal
funding while appearing to be inactive. No children were actually present. And this video went
hugely viral, prompted federal authorities to launch their own investigations and to freeze
child care funding to Minnesota until the state sends a list of providers and parents who
receive federal child care. We're talking millions and millions of taxpayer dollars, hardworking people
in Minnesota are paying this money because they've been told, look, we got to help children,
we've got to help these refugee communities, we got to help these vulnerable people. So support
this program via. So this is toxic empathy being fed to the masses. No one wants to be the person to
stand up and say, I think we should give less money to the special needs kids from Smalia.
No one wants to be that person.
No one wants to say, I think we're maybe giving too much money to poor daycare workers.
Like no one wants to be that person because everyone wants to be perceived as empathetic and
it's just easier to just hand over your money to not ask where it's going and to just
feel like a good person because you want to believe the stated intentions of politicians.
It makes you feel good.
And it also, I think, is an excuse for a lot of people to not give to charity themselves
and to not actually embody virtue themselves because they can kind of outsource their compassion
to politicians.
And it's much more uncomfortable to ask these questions and possibly get in trouble and possibly
look like a bad person.
So this is President Trump.
He said on January 1st, Somalians are ripping off our country to the tune of it looks like
$19 billion.
And that's only what they can.
can find every one of them should be forced to leave this country, including Ilhan Omar, who's a total
crook. We're not going to pay it anymore. I mean, she probably did allegedly commit immigration fraud
to come to this country. So I think that's legit. So President Trump says, we're not going to
pay it anymore. We'll see what's done. I think everyone would like to see some action. What does
repatriation look like? Like, can we care about where our tax dollars go? Because you'll remember
the likes of people like David French and Russell Moore in others criticizing Doge that, oh no,
we're taking money from these programs that are supposed to, it's supposed to cure cancer,
it's supposed to help these poor kids in Africa.
We're just, again, supposed to believe the stated intentions and never look at the outcomes.
And we're never supposed to care about where our money is going.
Apparently, that makes you a bad person.
But the money could actually be going in a direction that's good.
It could actually be going in a direction that's beneficial.
I think I trust you all as the American people to do a better job of sending your money to the right place than I trust the government because you got corruption like this.
And no one else to say anything because these Somalian communities vote Democrat.
And if you can get 100,000 people to vote your way, then most politicians are going to do whatever it takes.
And that's the thing with the Democratic Party.
They can use toxic empathy to convince people to give them more and more tax dollars and more and more money.
and then they are able to then buy off entire communities and use that to enrich themselves.
And so everyone benefits, except for you, the conservative Christian, who is just trying to run a business and raise a family and do right by others and do right by God, you get screwed.
But if you care about this, Tim Wall says it's white supremacy.
This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you.
This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefits.
This is what happens when they scapegoat.
And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy when you hear the vice president of the United States talk about.
Now white people won't have to apologize for being white.
Okay.
He's like mixing up a bunch of things and has a bunch of projection there.
But apparently this is mixed together with white supremacy.
But today is not a great day for Tim Walls because he has decided to drop out of Minnesota's governor race.
We see this from Daily Wire.
This is amid fraud allegations.
I mean, he has been trying for the past few weeks to say, oh, this is not really a problem.
Actually, this is a problem, but it's not Somalians.
And that's what they do.
They just change the goalpost.
He said political actors are taking advantage of this crisis.
The crisis is manufactured by your incompetent and corrupt leadership.
But he blames President Trump.
He said Donald Trump at his allies in Washington, D.C. in St. Paul.
Does Donald Trump have a bunch of allies in St. Paul?
I didn't know that.
And online want to make our state a colder, meaner place.
No, like we just want daycare centers to take care of kids.
Is that crazy?
Does that make us white supremacist that I just want people who work really hard
and give a portion of their paycheck to the government?
I want them to be able to trust that that money is going to.
going in a direction that really matters. I think most people in Minnesota would be fine with a
portion of their paycheck going to take care of true refugees or going to take care of children.
But when it's going to pay fraudsters and to keep empty buildings warm, like, that's a problem,
right? That really shouldn't be political. But he demonizes right-wing YouTubers. Well, it took a
right-wing YouTuber to expose the truth. And that right-wing YouTube,
YouTuber simply used his skills and called for transparency and kicked you out of the race.
So good job Nick Shirley.
Good job right wing YouTubers and influencers.
You can try to belittle that all you want to, but that changed the trajectory of Minnesota.
Now, he could be replaced by someone worse.
I don't know.
But Minnesota, like if you can get it together, if Donald Trump can get it together and actually
get the bad actors out of here, then maybe Minnesota can switch over. It's become a very corrupt
state. It's very beautiful state. And there's a lot of good people there. Just like California and
Washington and Oregon, it's filled with so many good people. And it is just captured by these
far left immigrant communities and by Democrat politicians. Turning a blind eye to fraud,
whether for votes or campaign funding or via toxic empathy to feel like a good
like anti-racist ally and to cast Muslims as oppressed victims. It's wrong. This is calling evil good and good evil.
This is refusing to see the truth and to say the truth because it's politically expedient and you are motivated by a hatred of conservatives or a hatred of Donald Trump that you won't even just say that lying is bad and stealing is bad.
that's where we are. And that's not the place that Christians should be. Proverbs 24, 11 through 12,
rescue those who are being taken away to death, hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
If you say, behold, we did not know this. Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who keeps the watch over your soul know it? And will he not repay man according to his work?
James 417. So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it. For him, it is sin.
All right, we've got just a couple things to say about what's going on with Maduro and Venezuela in just a second.
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So I have a little bit of an exciting announcement.
we are twice a month going to have my dad host his own episode.
That is in addition to the three episodes a week that you are getting from me.
Two Saturdays a month, you will get to hear from my dad.
And he will break finances down to you, what's going on with the economy, what's going
on politically, how political processes work.
You guys ask me a lot of good questions.
And my dad is so good at very calmly breaking things down, telling us that it's going to be
okay offering fatherly advice and wisdom. And I've just been so touched by so many of you,
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So that said, you can look forward to that.
I think the first one's going to be this Saturday.
I'll check on that and then I'll tell you on Wednesday's episode for sure.
But he is going to be talking more about what's happening with Maduro and Venezuela.
And why Trump did what he did and what the defense is for it.
But let me just tell you a little bit about what happened because I do feel responsible to tell you something about this huge news item.
But then he will break it down even more.
So on Saturday, January 3rd, President Trump announced that the capture of Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores, during an overnight U.S. military operation in Caracas, known as Operation Absolute Resolve.
The raid involving special operations forces and over 150 aircraft for cover resulted in no U.S. casualties, praise God.
The couple was taken from a fortified compound to face 2,020 U.S. charges, including narco-terrorism and drug trafficking.
trafficking. So from Venezuela, we're getting all kinds of drugs, fentanyl cocaine. These are killing
hundreds of thousands of Americans every year. Trump shared a photo on social media showing a blindfolded
and Hank of Maduro in custody aboard the USS Iwojima amphibious assault ship before transfer to New York
for trial. And I just have to say the memes that have come out of this have been top-notch.
just go on X, go on Instagram and search for them.
I'm sorry, whatever you think about this, the memes are the best.
The videos are the best.
Praising Marco Rubio, praising Donald Trump,
and just kind of praising American being a superpower,
a superpower doing superpower things.
Now, there are varying opinions about this on the right.
You've got some people on the right saying,
okay, we don't want to run Venezuela.
That's one thing that Trump said that we're going to run Venezuela.
Like we shouldn't have done this.
We shouldn't support regime change.
This is just going to cause destabilization.
This could actually exacerbate the drug problem.
This could exacerbate the mass migration problem.
And this is not our business.
We should stay out of this.
You're just, Trump is just trying to raise his own numbers and start a war.
This is a pattern that we've seen.
In the past, you see this both on the right and the left.
So that's one perspective.
Also people saying, well, this is just going to enrage their allies like Russia, like China, also Iran.
And this is just going to make tensions even worse.
And then the other side of it is saying, no, these are legitimate charges and they are responsible for killing Americans.
And he does need to be brought to justice.
And this is what superpowers do.
Timothy and I, my husband and I were talking about this beforehand and like he was just pointing out that, yeah, there's always going to be a world power. There's always going to be someone in charge, whether it's America or whether it's China or whether it's Iran or whether it is Russia. Someone is always going to be in charge. And there's not just going to be this vacuum. We're not just all going to get along.
And if America is in charge, then America is going to do what is in America's best interests.
Now, you could argue about what America's best interests are in this.
But the Trump administration believes that getting Maduro out of the way, who is an illegitimate president, he didn't really win the election, and who has, via the warmth of collectivism, run Venezuela into the ground, starving their own people so they can't even get the basic necessities to live and are eating their pets.
that is in America's best interest. And yeah, there is an oil interest there. And someone's going
to take control of that oil. China has a lot of control of it. We don't want China to be more
powerful. So of course, that's part of it. So there are going to be disputes. There are going to be
disagreements about that. J.D. Vance, vice president said, you see a lot of claims that Venezuela
has nothing to do with drugs because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere. I want to address this.
Fintinol isn't the only drug in the world.
There's still ventanol coming from Venezuela.
Cocaine is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela as a profit center for all of Latin America cartels.
Third, yes, a lot of fentanyl is coming out of Mexico.
That continues to be the focus of our policy in Mexico and is why President Trump shut the border.
Fourth, I see a lot of criticism about oil.
About 20 years ago, Venezuela expropriated American oil property and until recently,
use that stolen property to get rich and fund their narco-terrorist activities.
I understand the anxiety over the use of military force, but are we just supposed to allow
communists to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing? Great powers don't act like that.
Also, this is a picture of Delta Force, correct, Tom? And this is the team that went in, got Maduro
and his wife out. And at the end of the day, the military is about lethality. At the end of
day, it is only about who can do the most, well, I don't want to say lethal job because we didn't
want to kill Maduro in this case. That wouldn't have been the justice that we are looking for.
But in general, the military is about lethality. It's about competence and it's about effectiveness.
It's not about racial quotas. It's not about representation. It's not about social justice.
It's who can protect American interests and American safety best.
pray for our military. There was also, we'll put it up, this awesome picture of Trump and a team that
was involved, involved in this. And I'm thankful for the Secretary of War and Pete Hedgeseth.
And I'm thankful for an administration that cares about American interests. Again, I think the debate
is worth having. And that's part of the whole debate and identity figuring out that we are doing
on the right. Like, what is our role in the world? What is our
role as the world's superpower and what actually does American interest and security look like.
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So right now, the American right is having what we just described an identity crisis.
We lost our main unifier, our lead coalition builder and Charlie Kirk.
He, more than we realized gate kept the crazy, he cooled the tensions.
He tried to make peace on the right through debate and through discussion and through agreement
where we could, but now he's gone. And so now fights that weren't happening out in the open when
Charlie was alive or happening in the open now and without the moderator. And he was the moderator,
like in so many ways, the moderator of debates, but also the moderator of the right, but our moderate
was murdered. And so now we're left to duke it out and to see who we really are and what we're
really trying to build. And I know to all of you who watched the drama and Thess, like it seems
very demoralizing. But I'm here to tell you that it's necessary because the left is out to
destroy the West via mass migration, Marxism, radical Islam. They don't have to agree on anything,
except that the Western civilization way of life needs to go. The right is trying to preserve the West
and to build a good future. But in order to preserve and to build, you first have to define.
What are we preserving? What are we building? What is the key component to Western civilization
that we are trying to conserve? So we have to agree if we're building on something on a plan,
on the tools that we're using and the foundation.
And that defining process is going to involve serious and sometimes ugly debates.
And as I said in my speech at anthas, for the Christian who sees the importance of politics
and serving our neighbors and glorifying God, we, our role in this is to stand firm on God's
definitions of goodness, truth, and beauty.
We do not compromise for elections.
We can't compromise on what he says clearly in his word about morality and marriage
and life inside the womb.
And the next few months, I'm relatable, we'll be waiting into some more of the debates that we're having on the right, some of these debates for the first time.
But a lot of them, again, and from a fresh perspective and more thoroughly, about Israel and America's involvement, whether the American identity is about genealogy and race or just about accepting American values, the goods and bads of individualism.
And most importantly, what we see in the Bible about all of these things, because one thing is sure that we're not, we're not going to be able.
While conservatism changes, it waxes and wanes and influence, it morphs its boundaries shift over time, Christianity never does.
Presidents come and go, policies expire, but Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
That's what Hebrews 138 tells us.
That means how we as Christians operate in the political space and our role in the conservative movement is distinct from the rest of the world.
It doesn't mean that we're a little left and a little right.
It just means that by the grace of God we're as biblical as possible.
it means that we're more principled than pragmatic.
It means that we're more firm than fluid
because there are things that we cannot compromise on,
no matter what the polls say.
Because we care more about what God's word says.
We care more about eternity.
Public opinion changes,
but the word of God lasts forever.
And his word is explicitly clear
about the value of human life starting from its beginning
that affects our view on abortion, on IVF, on surrogacy,
on sperm and egg donation or sperm and egg selling,
and the importance of marriage and family. God's word is explicitly clear and defining marriages
between one man and one woman. God's word is clear on these things. And many of the other
policies that people think that God's word isn't clear on, like immigration or justice,
actually we can find principles for those things in God's word. And that's what I'm most
interested in exploring. The world is going to world. The secular is going to secular. But like,
how can we as the church be as clear and cohesive?
as possible on what is good right and true and what can we do to persuade people over to our cause.
Now, you know, as I have told you many times, that you don't have to be an influencer to have
influence. You don't have to be a podcaster to have a platform. You don't have to be on social
media or have a microphone or be up on stage in order to convince people and persuade people
of what is good right and true. Yes, every podcast episode is persuasion.
Every sermon is persuasion. Every social media post could be persuasion, but parenting is also persuasion. You are
discipling your kids by persuading them of what is good, right, and true. And that is an eternal investment,
not just an investment in the next generation and in the future of our country, which really matters,
but an investment in eternity because their little souls last forever. And so, 2026, what's out,
what we leave behind in 2025, no matter what sphere you occupy.
as a stay-at-home off, as an employee, as a student, as a podcast, or whatever it is,
you leave behind cowardice and you leave behind compromise and you leave behind confusion.
In 2026, we are resolute in clarity and in courage.
No matter what that looks like for you and the private moments and the public ones,
and the personal and the professional and the political, clarity encourages what we are going for.
By the grace of God, I am on that journey with you.
Okay, the last thing I want to say, and I didn't plan to say this,
but I was just thinking this.
The good, the true, and the beautiful.
That's what we want.
And I saw something over the break with our kids that I think typifies that really well.
And that is the movie David by Angel Studios.
This is not a paid advertisement at all.
I just wanted to say, like, we should be supporting a beautiful art.
We should be supporting the alternative to the demonic in the dark that we are seeing over there.
And we should be supporting things that unapologetically glorify God.
And I encourage you to not only see David.
Yeah, there are some things that's like, okay, that's not exactly what happened.
Like, I was waiting for David to cut off Goliath's head.
What happened there?
There were a couple of things like that, but nothing that was major that changed the story.
But here's what you have to do.
You have to see David as a precursor for Christ.
And you have to remember that Christ is the new and true David, the new and better David.
That he was an archetype.
And so if you see David,
in as the precursor to the true Messiah, then I think that just makes the gospel come alive
throughout the movie. So that's what I would recommend. There are lots of things that we can do
to push back against the darkness. Speaking truth is one of them. Discipling our kids is a huge one.
But also creating alternatives to the darkness is a great way to do that. And supporting that
alternative is great too. All right. We'll be back here on Wednesday.
