Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1288 | Bryce Crawford: How to Overcome Nerves to Share the Gospel Anywhere

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Allie sits down with both Bryce Crawford and Riley Gaines at AmericaFest 2025. Bryce, who boldly shares the gospel with everyone — from KKK members to furries, politicians to the homeless — remind...s us that every soul needs Jesus. He opens up about his dramatic conversion at 17, when a supernatural encounter with Christ ended years of depression and suicidal thoughts. Bryce also shares how he went from timid “Jesus loves you” street evangelism to confidently proclaiming the full gospel and the lessons he’s learned in five years of fearless outreach. Plus Allie has a special conversation with Riley, who just welcomed her baby girl — on how motherhood has intensified her fight for fairness in women’s sports, shifted her worldview, and fueled her unapologetic courage. Raw testimonies, gospel urgency, and hope that no one is beyond redemption. Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (01:15) Bryce Crawford's Testimony (09:05) Sharing the Gospel with Boldness (16:30) Interview with Riley Gaines (26:25) Becoming a Mom (37:40) What's Next --- Today's Sponsors: Every Life | Visit ⁠⁠⁠EveryLife.com⁠⁠⁠ and use promo code ALLIE10 to get 10% off your first order today!  Crowd Health | Join CrowdHealth to get started today for $99 for your first three months using code ALLIE at ⁠⁠JoinCrowdHealth.com⁠⁠⁠. CrowdHealth is not insurance. Opt out. Take your power back. This is how we win. A'del Natural Cosmetics | Visit ⁠⁠⁠AdelNaturalCosmetics.com⁠⁠⁠ and enter promo code ALLIE for 25% off your first-time purchase.  Good Ranchers | To support a company that’s committed to honoring America’s past, present, and future, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoodRanchers.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ today. And if you subscribe to any Good Ranchers box of 100% American meat, you’ll save up to $500 a year! Plus, if you use the code ALLIE, you’ll get an additional $25 off your first order. Seven Weeks Coffee | Go to ⁠⁠⁠SevenWeeksCoffee.com⁠⁠⁠ and save 15% forever when you subscribe, plus get a free gift with your order! And use code ALLIE for an extra 10% off your first order. That’s a 25% total savings on your first order, plus a free gift!  Legacy Box | Visit ⁠LegacyBox.com/Allie⁠ to save 55% when you digitize your memories. --- Episodes you might like:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ep 816 | Reliving the Trauma of Sharing a Locker Room with 'Lia' Thomas | Guest: Riley Gaines ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-815-reliving-the-trauma-of-sharing-a-locker/id1359249098?i=1000615761996⁠ Ep 565 | The Women Saving Women's Sports | Guest: Ainsley Erzen ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-565-the-women-saving-womens-sports-guest-ainsley-erzen/id1359249098?i=1000551315905⁠ Ep 729 | The Unmatched Generosity of Christians | Guest: Andy Schoonover ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-729-the-unmatched-generosity-of-christians-guest/id1359249098?i=1000591025085⁠ Ep 863 | What Happened to Millennials? | Guest: Dr. George Barna ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-863-what-happened-to-millennials-guest-dr-george-barna/id1359249098?i=1000625997113⁠ --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (and That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.alliebethstuckey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise: Use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Starting point is 00:00:52 mortgage lending by the book, nationwide mortgage bankers, DBA Fellowship Home Loans, equal housing lender, NMLS, number 819382. The head of the KKK, furries, politicians, homeless people. What do all of these groups have in common? They need Jesus. They need to hear the gospel. Bryce Crawford knows that. That's why he goes to everyone, everywhere, and preaches the good news of Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But how did he get started? What inspired him to not only believe and follow Jesus, but to share that with other people? We are talking to our new friend, Bryce Crawford today, about his testimony and how he gets over the nerves of talking to people about Jesus. We're also talking to Riley Gaines. She just became a mom. How has this changed her advocacy and what she thinks about fairness in women's sports? We're talking about all of these things with our two friends today and much more in these conversations from America Fest. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout. That's goodrachers.com.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Code Alley. Bryce, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. Okay, for the few people who may not know, can you tell us who you are and what you do? I'm Bryce and I talk about Jesus for a living. You really do. And you've amassed millions and millions by the grace of God of followers because you evangelized. You just go on the streets and you tell people the gospel.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yes, ma'am. How did that start? Well, I became a Christian when I was 17. I had depression and anxiety for years. I grew up in Christian environment. went to a Christian school, but I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus when I was 17, stopped me from taking my life. And that was my intro to Christianity. And from that moment, I started sharing my faith. And it started just, Jesus loves you. And then I'd run away before people
Starting point is 00:02:50 could respond because I didn't have the answer to the questions. And then I slowly started standing up because I realized Jesus loves you isn't the gospel. And so I had to learn the gospel and answer questions and been doing it for almost five years. Okay, I have two questions based on what you just said. number one, the supernatural encounter with Jesus that stopped you from taking your life. Can you tell us what that moment was? Absolutely. I went to Waffle House as my last meal, death row meal, you can call it. So you had a plan.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I had a plan. I was going to take my life when I got home. It was on Christmas Day of 2020. And I went to Waffle House and I was at this table. No one preached to me. No one shared the gospel with me. The total opposite happened, actually. This grown man dumped his life issues on me.
Starting point is 00:03:32 and he said, I'm losing my wife, she's divorcing me and taking my kids, and then he said there's no love in a relationship if the, there's no growth in a relationship if the love isn't mutual. And when he said that, time stopped. And I had learned about Jesus all my life, grew up in church, Christian school, but the brain knowledge connected to my heart. And for the first time, I thought to myself, maybe I don't know God loves me because I haven't given myself a chance to love him back, like us spending time to know.
Starting point is 00:04:02 each other. And really it was just supernatural revelation, kind of like in Matthew 16, when Peter realizes that Jesus is the Christ. And Jesus says, well, it's not by your own willpower. You did that. It's a gift from God. It's a grace of God that you're able to understand that. And so I prayed a crazy prayer. I said, Jesus, if you're real, take away my anxiety and depression because this is the reason why I want to take my life. And I haven't had that crippling anxiety or depression since that day. It's been almost five years. Wow. And so you said that that led you to go tell people that Jesus loved them. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But at some point you realized that's not the gospel. There are some people listening that don't know that that's not the gospel. So what do you mean by that? Yeah, I think we say Jesus loves you, you know, and that's the gospel. It's not the gospel. I mean, yes, Jesus displayed his love on the cross, but Jesus talked about hell a lot and talked about that people are going to go to hell and be separated from God for an eternity because of their sin.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And that's the thing. You and I deserve the wrath and justice of God because we've done. wrong in God's face. We slap him in the face every day. But because of God's love, because of his love displayed on the cross, Jesus' death and resurrection, because there has to be justice, there has to be a payment for wrong. We have an eternal debt for God. That means an eternal payment has to be paid either with your life or his life, and Jesus laid his life down and defeated sin and death. The only thing you and I can't defeat, and if we put our fate that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from our sin, we are justified and may write in God's eyes and we get to spend an eternity with him.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But if we decide we don't want Jesus, it breaks his heart all the more. But we spend an eternity separate from him and he grants that wish. And so that that's the gospel. Yeah. You said that you had to take some time to really learn that, to dig into what the Bible says, the message that Jesus actually preached. What did that look like for you to get serious about studying God's word? Well, when I became a Christian, I locked myself in my bedroom.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Don't suggest that. but with my Bible and this book called Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem. It's from 1990s. It's one of my favorites. It's great. It's a thick textbook. So that's where I kind of got like this base level foundation. And you're 17 at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm 17. Wow. And then from there it was just reading the Word of God and looking at history, church fathers, looking at theologians like C.S. Lewis, Sproll, everyone. Now don't limit yourself to a denomination. Like I'm talking just look at the church fathers. Like look at what they say. And that's kind of where I built a lot of my perspective theology and things like that, just from doing research.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. And what did you start actually going out and preaching that gospel? The next day. The next day. I mean, it started when Jesus loves you. But I would say about a month. It took me about a month. And then it was everywhere. I remember having an old bully from school who left my school and joined a gang and was living this crazy life. And he was my first guy. And he threatened to kill me. And we met up at lunch and he fell in my arms crying and needed Jesus. And so I spent about six months really hammering him with Jesus and discipleship. And so I would say about a month after I became a Christian, I really felt like I had a decent grasp on the gospel and started taking it with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 What have you learned these five years of evangelism? You've put a lot into practice. And I imagine that things have gotten better or easier or maybe harder in some ways. What does that look like? I think listening is the greatest tool of evangelism. We always try to talk so much. Oh, maybe if I say this phrase or if I say this one thing right, it's really going to hit home. And the Bible says we plant seeds and water seeds.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It's not my job to save anyone. It's not your job to save anyone. And so I found listening and being intentional with people is the greatest tool of evangelism. It's not love bombing. It's just caring about people. It's just you care about people. And in there, I think God gives you leverage. Have you been surprised at the number of people who follow you to watch you share the gospel with people?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Absolutely. I don't know why people listen to me. Yeah. I don't know why. I can imagine. What do you see in your generation? You're still Gen Z. Consider Jinzzi, right?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Gen Z. Gen Z. Okay. And your generation, people talk a lot about revival and like a renewed hunger for truth. Would you say that's true? I'd say absolutely. I mean, I moved to L.A. three years ago and Christianity was the minority, but now Christianity is slowly becoming a majority in L.A., which that sounds shocking.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But it's true. You know, we're on the ground in there. And, you know, you're on the ground in your school and in your city. I just remember hearing so much when I first became a Christian. Oh, Gen Z is so lost. Oh, they're a lost cause. This, this and that. And it's like, wow, that is not hopeful for my generation to go, wow, I really want to turn to Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You really believe in me, don't you? You know, and I've just found we need fathers and mothers who care about our generation to believe in us instead of speak death over us. And I see a generation really turn into Jesus. People are stepping up. Quick pause to tell you about our first sponsor. It's one of my favorites. It's Adele Natural Cosmetics. I love Arlene and her family.
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Starting point is 00:09:48 For people who admire your boldness but are nervous, they think, well, you're just a good public speaker. You're just a good communicator. I could never do something like that. What do you tell them? Oh, man, I still get nervous to this day. You do? Every time.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Every time. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's the human nature, right? Because what are they going to think? What are they going to say? I don't think you have to beat yourself up because you feel that way. But I have to pray for boldness. God, give me boldness.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's what the disciples after the 3,000 got saved with Peter. They got baptized, received the Holy Spirit. And they go, all right, Peter, what do we do? And he's like, pray for boldness. And every day we have to pray for boldness because Proverbs would say the fear of man is like a snare, you know? fear of man creates passivity and we know passivity is sinful. And so I don't want to live passive. And if I want to be a fool for anyone, I want to be a fool for Jesus
Starting point is 00:10:38 because I don't want to get to heaven and people say, man, why don't you tell me this? This was true. Oh, because I was afraid of what you thought. That's a poor way to go out. How do you explain the gospel to someone who has no Christian contact? They don't know anything about what you're talking about. Yeah, I kind of explain it like a murderer, like a criminal.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You know, a murderer commits a crime. and if the police officer arrested them and then took them to donuts and coffee, you'd be like, that's a little weird. No, the murderer deserves jail. And in the same way a murderer deserves jail and deserves to be punished, it's the same way you and I deserve to be punished, because you don't have to teach a four-year-old to be selfish and not share and pitch fits and hit the mom or hit the dad when they're upset.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It doesn't matter how good of a parent you are. It's in their nature. But it's a gift from God that God substitutes his wrath on us with his grace. And I think the ultimate thing for me is explaining forgiveness. You know, forgiveness is canceling the debt. Someone owes you. And God has canceled the debt that we owe him with his life. And I think that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Has it surprised you how quickly or easily someone who doesn't have the same background that we do, raised in the church, can understand the concept that you just explained? It doesn't surprise me. I think there's complexities about God that when you dive deeper, it's hard. But God's not trying to do mental gymnastics with anyone to understand just him. Know that he wants a relationship with you. God's not a dictator in every religion he is, but not in Christianity. Christianity is the only religion of compassion.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And I think it's every human heart longs for compassion. So I think that's why it's easier for people to understand that. Yeah. Have you ever gotten a question from someone that you're evangelizing to you that really stumped you in the moment? Absolutely. Can you think of one? Oh man, when I talk to the Hebrew Israelites a lot, you know, those guys? So the black Hebrew Israelites who believe that they're the real chosen people.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yes, if you're not black, you're going to hell, basically. And, you know, it's hard to talk with people that are prideful and that takes scripture out of context. You know what I mean? And so I just say, okay, thank you. Or, oh, I don't know. But this is what I do know. We are, the Holy Spirit can take over and give you words, but we can't let false doctrine sway us aside. Those guys can be a little iffy. Yeah. For someone who wants to get serious
Starting point is 00:13:03 about apologetics, being able to answer the questions that they can about the character of God, the word of God, where do you recommend they start? Say find guys like C.S. Lewis, R.C. Sproll, Charles Spurgeon. Look at these guys. Even modern year guys like Frank Turrick, Cliff Conneckley, all these guys. Just don't be the smartest guy in the room and don't think that you know it all. because the second that you think you know it all, that's when you find someone that knows more than you do. So true. And then you always live in this state of humility and always want to learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I think you should underestimate yourself and what you know, especially if you're not really going into debates per se, but I go into debates and stuff and I always try to overestimate the intellect of the person that I'm talking to and underestimate my own. When you switch those, that's when you get in those really sticky situations. Absolutely. Okay, you just got engaged. did. That's really exciting. Congratulations. How did you meet your fiance? Well, I knew her in high school. She didn't know me. She was very beautiful and popular at a public school and I was very nerdy and not cool at a private school. So I had a crush from afar. We both didn't know Jesus at the time and moved to L.A. never would think about her occasionally.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Man, she was so beautiful, you know, reminiscing on the good old days or whatever. And then one day I was at my roommate holds a Bible study and she walked into the Bible study. and I almost, I lost it. I was like, there's no way this is happening. And that's where we met and we have been dating ever since. Yeah, and you're getting married soon. January 10th. Amazing. Short engagement. That's the way to go. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Okay, there's a lot of people out there. You're age, younger, older, who are like, I just want God to bring me the right person. What's your advice for them? Well, I think, you know, it's interesting, like soulmates. I don't think God makes soulmates. I think you can enjoy, you can find yourself to fall in love with anyone. But the reality is, it's like, if you don't love Jesus, you're not worthy of being trusted with his daughter. And so every time I started dating Maddie, I would just ask God, can I take your daughter out on a date?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Because it's God's daughter he's trusting you with. It's his joy to trust you with her. But work on yourself. Make sure you're right with Jesus. And God will bring you someone he can trust you with when the time is right. That's awesome. final parting words, you kind of already did this, but I like to ask some of my guests, guests who do this well, to just share the gospel in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Absolutely. You and I deserve to be punished for our wrongdoing because that's just. And everyone wants justice. We cry out for justice until it comes to God, but we deserve to be punished and separated from God, but because God loves us so desperately, he desired to become so close to us in the form of skin, living a perfect life, not just telling us how to live it, but showing us how to live it, dying the death that you and I deserve to die and defeating the only thing that we can't defeat sin and death so that you and I can have true life with him. He who knew no sin became sin so that you and I could become the righteousness of God.
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Starting point is 00:17:21 Code Alley, seven weeks coffee.com, code Alley. Riley, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Oh my gosh, please. I am so excited. I know I just told you before we were recording, but honestly you and how you lead with your faith first on virtually every topic, culture, political, social, I admire and I look up to so much.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So thank you, Alia. You're saying that. Likewise, I look up to you, even though you're a lot younger than me. Just your courage has really, I feel like, grown even more over the past few years. Obviously, it took a lot of bravery to stand up and do what you did when you were in college. But I've just seen you grow so much in your clarity and your lack of care about what people think. It seems like has really grown over the past few years. Would you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:18:18 And what do you attribute that to? 110%. I think back to, you know, three years ago. I mean, this was in 2022. It was a totally different climate that we were living in. It was really hard to read some of the things that are being said about you. I mean, bear in mind, I'm a 21-year-old college student who merely just wanted to compete fairly, right? Seems like the bare minimum. But for saying the things that I said, such as there are two sexes and you can't change your sex, and each sex is deserving of equal opportunity of privacy and of safety for saying that, you're vilified. And it was hard. hard to see the things. They would call you, I mean, everything under the sun so far, I mean, even racist and misogynist, all these hurtful things, words with real power and weight behind them, which have now totally lost their meaning. But I will say now, flash forward three years, that's like water off the ducks back. Yeah. Reading those things. And what I attribute that to,
Starting point is 00:19:13 a couple things. Of course, I put all of my, the confidence in the security that I have and the fact that I'm fighting for the hope and the promise of eternal life. And once you do that, it makes it shifts your perspective to understand that nothing of this world matters. Yeah. And of course there's ebbs and flows and there's hard days. But I find myself being pretty stabilized and not truthfully. And even when someone like Simone Bile, someone that I'm sure that you looked up to at some point, because all young athletes do, she says something completely wrong, inaccurate, rude about you.
Starting point is 00:19:48 How do you handle that at home? It's so funny because when I got this notification, from Simone Biles, which it was this big Twitter ex altercation. And so I get this notification on my phone. It's a Friday evening. And I just see Simone Biles tagged you in a comment. I'm like over the moon excited because you're right. This is someone who I have admired and looked up to for so long as an athlete.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like she is the best in her sport, bar none. And so I get this notification. I'm smiling ear to ear. Friday afternoon, I'm about to turn my phone off for Saturday. I click on it. And it said something to the effect of, you know, you're disgusting bully, Riley, why don't you pick on someone your own size, which would ironically be a man? And reading that, the words that she said, I think in the way that she
Starting point is 00:20:32 intended to use them didn't hurt me in that way. It was more so the devastation of understanding that this is little girls' role models. And she, in the name of inclusion and being progressive, decided to come after me, and again, for what? For saying that women's sports are only for women? So it's hard to read those things, not to, again, the words or how she's intending them to be used. Yeah. But just more so in understanding, like, little girls look up to her. My little sister, she's a gymnast. She's 17 years old.
Starting point is 00:21:04 She's an elite-level gymnast. She will go on to do incredible things in college and beyond. That's my little sister's role model. And so my little sister approaches me and she's like, look, if I have to take sides, I'm team Riley. Yeah. And so. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Okay. I feel like the tide is turning in a really good way when it comes to female sports, but also just people's courage and their willingness to say, yeah, sorry, a man can't become a woman. It's not possible for a child to be born in the wrong body. But you're really in the thick of it. Like you see the activist attacks. You're seeing what's really going on at college campuses. Do you feel like the tide is turning?
Starting point is 00:21:42 110%. Again, you compare now to even, I mean, a year ago, it's very different. I think we're seeing more people with the willingness and the boldness to say that men can't become women. Men can't get pregnant. Women don't need prostate exams. Tampons don't belong in boys' bathrooms. And I think there's a lot of things to accredit that too. Obviously, it sounds pretty cliche, but I do believe courage be gets courage.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And so when you have people like yourself or you have President Trump in the Oval Office, that gives people a lot of cover, right? They see him doing it or you doing it, and they think, I can do that. utilize my circle of influence to say the exact same thing. And so I see that. We've seen lots of victories, of course, within what's going on at the national level with President Trump, signing executive orders. I mean, day one declaring there are only two sexes, male and female, executive order barring men from participating in women's sports within any educational program that receives federal funds. We will see in just a few weeks at the Supreme Court. I believe the date is January 13th. This will be the oral arguments surrounding a Title IX case. And so,
Starting point is 00:22:48 hopefully once and for all it will be clarified what exactly is meant when title nine implemented back in 1973 very brief piece of legislation what it meant when it defines the word well i guess it didn't define the word sex because we never knew we had to hopefully we have some clarity on that and i imagine my my prediction here is we will either see a five four ruling or a six three with a pretty scathing liberal dissent. Yeah, yeah. I'm so interested to see how Democrats will play it, since this is becoming one of those 80-20 issues. So you've got 80% of the country that at least can acknowledge women's sports need to be protected. You have someone like Gavin Newsom, who's obviously gunning for 28, and he's out there on a podcast trying so hard to play it in the middle. On the one hand,
Starting point is 00:23:37 he says, I'm the most pro-trans governor, but also we need to protect women's spaces, which doesn't make any logical sense. So, like, what is your thought about how this is going to play out politically. Do you think Democrats are going to have to just relent and say, okay, this is not going to be our winning issue? Well, do I think that's what they need to do? Absolutely. Truthfully, I thought that's what they were going to do,
Starting point is 00:24:00 following President Trump's, really this red wave that we saw in November of 2024. I've said it before, and I will say it again. I think people turned out to the polls then to support President Trump, of course, and to support his America First Agenda and to support his cabinet. But more so, I think people turned out to the polls to reject absurdity. And that's what the Democratic Party has become entirely and thoroughly, top to bottom, local, state, federal is just absurd. And so I thought we would see them slowly start to recant or distance themselves from their voting record, but that's not what we've seen
Starting point is 00:24:31 at all. Really, they have leaned in to the extremism and the radicalism. Obviously, look at what just happened in New York City, which really doesn't come as too much of a surprise where self-described Muslim socialists, just one mayor. But I think more, more of a condemnation of humanity is what we just saw in Virginia in their Attorney General race. I believe this to be one of the most, actually probably the most violent
Starting point is 00:24:56 and extreme rhetoric we have seen from any major level race of any candidate, again, at any level. And the state's top law enforcement officer, that being the Attorney General, saying that he wishes to watch the children of his political opponents die in their parents' arm.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And he won. So they're leaning in to the radical It's a pretty terrifying thought, but again, it just proves that it's up to us, all of the people here, you, myself, to not become complacent. I think so often we see obviously President Trump in the Oval Office and we think these things can't happen to us. You know, you live in Texas. I live in Tennessee. We don't have to worry about any of this woke stuff. That's when you're most susceptible, I believe.
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Starting point is 00:27:14 use my link. Legacybox.com slash alley. How has becoming a mom having little baby girl helped shape or solidify or even change how you see the world? It changes my perspective on literally everything. I think I approach, naturally, I approach the conversations that I find myself talking about with my own personal experience. Yeah. I don't think about me anymore. I think about my daughter, right? even the issue of men and women's sports. I came at it at the forefront of my mind is what the impact and the negative direct experience we had. Now I approach that conversation of the world that I want my daughter to inherit.
Starting point is 00:28:03 A fair and righteous and just and moral and safe world for her. That has shifted my worldview entirely on every single topic. It intensifies the fight, the need for it, the timeliness of it. It makes it all worth it, too. I think all of the pushback and the backlash, when you have something so precious and innocent and vulnerable and defenseless at this point, she's 10 weeks or I guess 11 weeks now, defenseless that you're fighting for, who care? You can't say anything about me because that's the priority here. Okay, on a personal level, what has it been like since she's been born? What's it been like in this postpartum period?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Honestly, I think a lot of women are going to get mad, but easy-peasy. Yeah. I am mad. I am mad, and we're all mad. We're mad at you. It's been a dream. Like, I'm not saying what I'm about to say to discount any of the women who have hard experiences because, you know, they certainly exist. But I do think we need to hear the good stories.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah. My pregnancy was a breeze. A breeze. I had no morning sickness, no tired, no fatigue, no aversions, nothing was able to lift and and exercise all the way throughout. I was at Charlie's memorial service on my due date, 40 weeks pregnant. Oh my gosh. I remember that. That is crazy. Yes, crazy. My doctor thought so too. But the Lord's timing was perfect. A hundred percent. The labor and delivery process, I loved every single second of it. It was like the most magical thing ever. And now even postpartum,
Starting point is 00:29:37 you know, you hear and I get kind of tired of the just wait. Well, I heard it all the time during pregnancy. Well, you just wait until the last few weeks or during the last few weeks. Or during the labor process, you just wait, or now being postpartum, you just wait until you don't get any sleep. My child, I think we maybe just birthed the perfect human, but she has slept fully through the night since day one. So I don't say that again to discount the other stories, but I think it's important for especially young women to hear, there are good stories. It has been a dream, every part of it.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I love motherhood so much. And every child is so different and every pregnancy is so different. and I think it's so important to hear that it's not always this nightmare. And also, even when it is really hard, because it might be hard. You might have a hard pregnancy or you might have a really difficult postpartum. And not only is it very worth it, but it also is a season. Like everything is a season. And now I've got three kids and my oldest is six and I look back and everything that someone told me that it goes by fast.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It never seems like it in the moment. But it really does. And I'm like, I did survive that. I was syncedified through that. It is completely worth it. But sometimes you just have to hear that too. That even when it is hard, because sometimes it is hard, that it's good. And hard is not the same thing as bad.
Starting point is 00:30:55 That's the title of a book of a friend that I really love. Hard is not the same thing as bad. Hard is good. Trials are good. They shape you. So, yeah, just keep that in mind with the motherhood conversation. I was talking to Rachel Campos Duffy yesterday after I had interviewed them on stage, her and Secretary Duffy. And one of the things she told me is she said, look, you know, I know you could
Starting point is 00:31:17 potentially be in the motherhood trenches right now. I want you to think 20 years from now when you're sitting around the Thanksgiving table. That's ultimately the end goal. That's, think of that in these hard moments. It makes it all worth it. And that's coming from someone who has nine children. Yes. Oh my gosh. Amazing. Yes. Yes. Next sponsor is crowd health. I don't have to tell you health insurance has become a huge mass. You can have insurance. that it feels like you don't have insurance, you still have to pay so much with restrictive doctors networks and high premiums and deductibles. It can just be a hassle. It might be time for your family to opt out of health insurance altogether and just go ahead and get crowd health.
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Starting point is 00:32:59 Okay. You've talked about the childhood vaccine schedule a little bit, right? You've talked about that publicly? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. What are your thoughts about that now that you're a mom? First of all, I think it's so cool to see so many young couples now beginning to question. system. I think for so long and understandably, because you want to trust health care professionals,
Starting point is 00:33:26 right? They are the ones who are supposed to be professionals. I think there's a bit of naivity there, but you want to trust them and you believe that they have the best intentions for you and for your child. We are now seeing people question this. I think COVID, of course, had a large part in that and the vaccines that were pushed on us then. My husband and I, there were a couple things that just didn't really make sense to me. I read several. I read several. books, one of those being the Vax Facts, one of those being the vaccine-friendly plan. I highly recommend the Vax Facts, by the way. One of the things that didn't make sense to me initially was when I was told as a pregnant woman, I couldn't have high levels of mercury, meaning don't eat raw fish.
Starting point is 00:34:08 That didn't make sense, considering these vaccines that they're putting in my baby in day one, have high levels of mercury. Same thing with deodorant. They say, you know, there's a big push to use deodorant that doesn't have aluminum in it, but you're going to be. to give my child on day one vaccines that have like 30 times over the FDA recommended amount of aluminum in a baby like virtually moments after she's born that it just red flag right and so started reading started doing some some research and I feel so encouraged in our decision to not vaccinate our baby at this point especially with the the recent news coming out from from hHS surrounding the hep B vaccine and seeing how the correlation between the hep B vaccine
Starting point is 00:34:49 and allergies and different allergens and things of that nature. So praise God, we have an administration who's making this a priority and tackling the childhood vaccine schedule. There's a really powerful graphic that's out there that I think at the 1980s, your baby received like three vaccines, and now it's upwards of 70 or 80 by the time you're 12 years old. Yeah. There's just no need.
Starting point is 00:35:12 This was a conversation that almost couldn't be had five years ago, not publicly. We would have had to put this before. behind the paywall and we would have had to be very cryptic and hush, hush about it. I think COVID changed so much because I had our first in 2019 and I just never thought about it because you trust the CDC. What is the CDC? What does that even stand for? You don't think about these things being designated by the government and not trusting the government. You just do what your pediatrician tells you. And then COVID happened and my pediatrician was such a bully
Starting point is 00:35:46 about her vaccines, about us getting the COVID vaccine, that I just started, I don't know if it's just my personality, but I just started to say like, ugh, like I just, I'm not sure about that. And so what I love now is that people do feel like they have the freedom to ask and that they really want the information and that you can't bully moms anymore because they actually know. I mean, make the choice that you think is best based on the facts,
Starting point is 00:36:13 but based it on the facts, not on peer pressure or the pressure, pressure of your pediatrician. And I had no idea just how hard it was to find a pediatrician, even in the very red state of Tennessee that I live in, find a pediatrician that was willing to see your child if they didn't get the full vaccine schedule. And so we were turned away for some places because they said, look, we basically, we can't see you because that hinders our performance rating. I'm like, what do you mean your performance? They say, well, if we have 80% of children who come in that get the full childhood vaccine scheduled, then we get bonuses. So the ratio doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:36:55 We just can't see you. And so we found a fantastic pediatrician. That's crazy, by the way. I know, isn't it? But it shows you, too. And I think COVID exposed a lot of this. Money drives virtually everything. Even the medicalization side of all of the trans nonsense.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Totally. Oh, my gosh. It is the most, the biggest medical scandal, I believe, that we have ever seen in our, in any point in history is cutting off the healthy body parts and sterilizing young children. Yeah. In the name of, of inclusion and affirmation or whatever other buzzwords they want to use. Totally. Totally sinister. Yeah. Very sinister. Last sponsor for the day is Every Life. So thankful for every life. We use their diapers and wipes every day in our home and have for a while now totally clean materials.
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Starting point is 00:38:35 Tell me about your show that you're about to launch, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes. What is your hope for it? I'm super-diper excited. So we're launching the Riley Gaines show. This is through Fox and Outkick. It will come out two times a week on one. Wednesdays and Fridays. I'm just very excited because I think there's a, as you know, and as you tend to, there's a need to reach a specific demographic. And the demographic that I feel very passionately about is young women. Yeah. I'm so inspired even being here and seeing so many young woman, by the way. It's so cool. And so talking all things, motherhood and fitness and of course continuing to deliver on the cultural and political takes that I may have, but beyond that,
Starting point is 00:39:24 I think there's a real opportunity. And so I'm excited to do what I can to help fill that. So just eternally grateful. Yeah, it is. Okay, what else is coming down the pipeline for Riley and your family and your life? So we're still continuing on with getting on campuses. obviously that feels pertinent to say given that we are here at Amfess. So this past semester, following the birth of my child, which is crazy. We were on 10 different campuses, both high schools and I. My goodness. Yeah, she's already been to 15 states.
Starting point is 00:39:58 So many states. Oh, my gosh, she's knocking them off the list. Yeah. Continuing to get on campuses, high schools, and colleges. So going to certainly continue doing that in the new year. As I said, what's going on at the Supreme Court in January is a really big deal for for the cause and so excited to see we won't have any sort of ruling until i would imagine june or july but nonetheless yeah important day um for the family look i'm i told it was funny
Starting point is 00:40:22 you know you deliver the baby and you're graphic but i mean my legs are still up in the stirrups i'm like lo i'm ready for another one let's see yeah oh my goodness so hopefully more babies one day more babies that is awesome well riley thank you so much just for everything you do for the example that you sat for courage. I am no longer in the generation that's in college and after college. And so when I'm looking behind to see, okay, do we have people that are coming up behind us because we don't just want to be the millennials or the Gen Xers that are saying what's true. We want every generation to have those people. And I'm just so thankful for you and for other people that are in your circle that are unapologetically speaking the truth. We always have your back. We always will. You do such a good job.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And I'm so grateful. Well, thank you, Allie, for your boldness. Truthfully, on a variety of issues, I think even recently, how quick you were to call out lies that we saw being spread by Candice. Me seeing that, it gave me courage, which I felt like already a courageous person, right? Like, I could take the attacks, but I still found myself hesitating on weighing in on this. But you... I get that.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Doing it gave me courage. So thank you. Well, courage is contagious, and you've shown us that. So thank you. Thank you.

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