Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1296 | Uncovered: Our Enemies Are Fueling Anti-ICE Protests | Peter Schweizer

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Friday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. The episode or the interview that we're about to play for you is so incredibly mind-blowing. But before we get into it, I want to give an update on what's going on in Minneapolis, specifically with Alex Prattie. Now, if you've been listening to the past couple of episodes, if you've been following on social media, you know who this man is.

Starting point is 00:02:07 This was a man who was a VA nurse who was impeding a law enforcement operation with ICE, and he was tragically killed by ICE. And there has been a lot of discussion and conflict surrounding what actually happened. Was this a justified shooting or not? I've gotten lots of pushback from some people for saying, we still don't know all of the facts surrounding what happened. And that is true. There are multiple camera angles, but we still don't know everything the officers saw and heard in that moment that may have made them feel like their life in other people's lives were at risk.

Starting point is 00:02:49 So we're going to wait to see the results of those investigations. But one thing that we now know not to be true was that he was just a peaceful bystander. That is the caricature that we have seen described over the past several days by people in the media, by online activists to say that he was just standing there with his phone wanting to cause no problems at all and that he was completely unjustifiably targeted by ICE. We can have an issue with how his life was taken, but to paint that kind of picture we now know is just not true. So this footage was released from 11 days prior to Preti losing his life that seems to show Preddy. We're saying seems to show because while this has seemingly been verified by outlets like the BBC, I still can't see his full face.

Starting point is 00:03:47 He's got the same sunglasses in hat on, but there are media outlets verifying that this is, in fact, Alex Prattie. So here is this person agitating law enforcement very aggressively days before he was was killed. Let's play SOT 3. This is a moment the news movement filmed on January 13th in Minneapolis, showing a man who appears to be Alex Pretti interacting with federal immigration agents 11 days before Border Patrol shot and killed him. We also know from a separate report that Alex Pready had suffered a broken rib several days

Starting point is 00:04:22 prior to being killed. And it looks like if you watch the rest of this video, that that was probably from this interaction after he kicks the taillight out of the vehicle of ice, one of the officers gets out and tackles him to the ground, which is justified by the way, and that is probably where he got injured. But not only is he taunting law enforcement in this way, he is also blatantly saying assault me. Here's that too. Okay, so this is why I say we just don't know all of the facts and the extenuating circumstances surrounding when he was killed. Obviously, this person had been very aggressively agitating ice for several days. Did they have their eye on him knowing that he was a

Starting point is 00:05:28 powder keg that could explode at any moment? Had they seen how he acted and how he spoke and the threats that he made for several days that made them think, okay, we've got to watch this guy because he is on edge and we have a very good reason to believe that if armed, he would harm us. And is there a good reason to believe that they would be skeptical of someone who is carrying a gun with two extra magazines to a demonstration like this? Is there a good reason for them to believe that he actually was a threat? Do you have the right to carry a gun? Yes, in a lawful way. He didn't have his license on him at the time, so that is unlawful in the state of Minnesota,

Starting point is 00:06:13 but you do have a Second Amendment right to carry a gun. Do you have a First Amendment right to protest? Yes, but this was not a protest. He wasn't protesting out there in the street. He was trying to impede, completely justified, and valid law enforcement operations. I still say there is a question of whether that specific shooting at that time was justified, but I'm not going to buy into the narrative that is being pushed upon us. This is something that progressives do a lot. They not only say, hey, this was wrong. What happened to George Floyd in this moment was wrong, but then they also venerate these people, almost to the place of being these perfect saints. We actually saw that. We talked about that on Wednesday, the weird AI enhancement of Alex Preddy. And we can put that up. We've got the

Starting point is 00:07:07 picture on the right that MS Now, MSNBC and other outlets were showing. And then we've got his actual picture on the left. And this really was displayed on MS Now. And the link was going around to the YouTube segment. And then they ended up editing out this AI enhanced photo that they had been circulating and other outlets had been circulating. And it's just very strange. Like if you're just trying to highlight injustice, why do you have to make him Tanner? Why do you have to make his shoulders more broad? Why do you have to shorten his nose and widen his face? Why do you have to make him look more handsome, arguably, than he is in the left side? If it is just to highlight injustice, then you don't have to tell this kind of lie. And we've got Anna Navarro.

Starting point is 00:07:59 on CNN. She's saying, look, Alex Prattie was perfect. He's the kind of guy who would babysit your dog. Here's SOT six. They chose to, they killed the wrong guy, right? Because this is like, this is like the perfect guy. Alex Prattie is the guy you would want to date your daughter. The guy you'd want your son to grow up to be a decent human being who was serving humanity, serving sick veterans who is, you know, there is nothing that has been said about that. man that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They can't malign him because we have the videos. Okay. I've got more to say about this in just a second. Let me pause to you about our first sponsor for the day. That is we heart nutrition. Y'all, I take all of my we heart nutrition supplements every day. I take their magnesium, their prenatal vitamins. I take their omega-3s. I take their iron. I take their probiotic. Last night, I took an immunity supplement because I'm starting to

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Starting point is 00:10:31 basically this perfect, compassionate veteran who did nothing wrong, who was just there trying to help a woman up who had just been pushed to the ground and he was targeted for no reason just because he was filming with his phone. When you see that kind of caricature, you're actually pushing people away from defending him and pushing people away from being persuaded by the progressive narrative. People are like, you know what, I don't, I don't really think that I'm going to latch on to the propaganda campaign that you are pushing. So I just want to remind you that there are some questions that you should ask whenever anything emotional happens, whether it's George Floyd on the concrete, or whether it is Alex Preddy, or whether it is the five-year-old that was supposedly

Starting point is 00:11:18 detained by ice and used as bait, which we now know is not true. And yet those emotional images of that precious child wearing the blue toboggan. I mean, that pulls on your heart, And when you see that video completely decontextualized and the caption says, this person was arrested by ICE and used his bait, but his mom was scared to come outside. Like, it's really easy just to believe that. It actually, you feel like a bad person for not believing it. If you don't believe it and you don't repeat what they say and you don't call for an in for ice when you see that five-year-old supposedly victimized, then you feel like a bad person.

Starting point is 00:11:53 You feel like a coward. And yet, of course, that's been debunked. His father ran away from him. His mother said, no, I don't want that child to come inside. maybe she was scared. The ICE agents took care of him, bought him a happy meal. But of course, you didn't see that originally. So next time, before you react immediately, wait, ask a few questions, at least four questions.

Starting point is 00:12:15 Ask one, how do I know this to be true? How do I know this to be true? You should ask that when you're listening to this podcast too. How do I know that to be true? Number two, is there more context that I'm not seen or hearing? Is there more to this video? Was there something that happened before or after? What is going on here that I don't know? Number three, is there an alternative explanation to what this person is claiming? So when it came to that little boy, the caption said he's being detained by eyes. Is it possible that that caption is not true? Is it possible that something else is happening that I can't see and I don't know and this person sharing this video does not know? And number four, what are the sources for this information? For example, I saw this horrible story.

Starting point is 00:13:07 This woman, an illegal immigrant, she gave birth here. Her child was in the NICU. And the story read that this woman was being detained. And she was detained temporarily. She was then reunited with her child. But her milk dried up during that time. And it was horrible. And of course, as a mom who was given birth to three kids, that pulls on my heartstrings.

Starting point is 00:13:26 And it does make me sad. And it's okay to feel sad for her. and to feel compassion. We should. But what I noticed when I was reading this story is that there was no source for this information. This journalist never said, I talked to the woman, I talked to the doctor at the hospital, I verified this information. Here is my source. And then I saw commentators just repeating the story as if it's fact, never asking, but how do I know this is true? And where am I getting this information? So I know that I've said this a million times. I am not trying to get you not to feel. I'm not trying to get you not to have compassion or even for your compassionate instinct

Starting point is 00:14:04 to be arrested when you see sad pictures like the little boy in the blue toboggin. I'm trying to get you not to allow your feelings to lead you to a place that is not true. People got really mad at me when I talked about the messaging battle that is going on, but there is a messaging battle going on. And public messaging influences public policy, which influences the public. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter. And so what we believe and what we repeat, even if it's done in the name of compassion, has a real impact. And so before you reshare, before you repost, before you regurgitate the talking points,

Starting point is 00:14:49 ask yourself these questions. and remember your words have an impact. It's really easy for us to see stories like this and to selfishly think, well, how can I look good? How can I make sure that I'm checking the box or scoring the point or making sure that everyone knows that I'm a good person? But Christians are called to something much more thoughtful than that. You're called to the truth in love. Remember 1st Corinthians 13, 6. Love never rejoices in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.

Starting point is 00:15:18 truth and love always goes hand in hand for the Christian, factual, logical truth, and also biblical truth. And the reality is, is that what we're seeing right now, the outrage campaigns, all of the influencers posting things, trying to pressure you into saying the same things they are, the anti-ice sentiment, none of that is really organic. Yes, their feelings might be real, but it is all being orchestrated by people both in and outside of the country who want to see the destabilization of American cities. We touched on this just slightly on Wednesday, but today we're going to get into it. I'm talking the Chinese Communist Party, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah.

Starting point is 00:15:59 These entities all throughout the world who see the West in America as enemy number one are using chaotic moments like this to weaponize compassion against the United States. We don't have to play a part in that, but in order for us to opt out in a healthy way, we have to know what's going on. And that's why we're talking to Peter Schweitzer today. He wrote an entire book on this, how progressives are using immigration as a weapon and how these bad actors throughout the world are using very sophisticated and well-funded propaganda campaigns to lie to you and to change the makeup of the United States. It's going to blow your mind. Before we get into that conversation with Peter, let me go ahead and pause. I'll tell you about our second sponsor

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Starting point is 00:18:18 Minneapolis right now, especially in light of what you've just written about in this book. Well, I think what's happening in Minneapolis is sort of a microcosm of a larger issue, and that is what I call the weaponization of immigration. We've been having an immigration debate in this country, which is good and healthy about how it affects our economy, how it affects safety in our streets, you know, getting these rapists off the streets, et cetera. But there's something more going on, and that's this weaponization of immigration. So what do I mean by that? there are foreign actors. Some of them are foreign governments like China, like Mexico, others are foreign movements like the Muslim Brotherhood, who have weaponized immigration by importing

Starting point is 00:18:58 or bringing foreign political, sometimes violent networks into our country. And this, I think, is important to understand that you have people that come here that want to be part of the American dream, that want to embrace it, but you also have these very nefarious actors, and we're not able to sort between the two. So the clash and the violence and the corruption that we're seeing in Minneapolis is happening in Minneapolis, but it's also happening around the country from Los Angeles to New York City. And it's part of a larger, what I call civilizational struggle between the United States and these nefarious actors. Okay, tell me how exactly this works, because from my end, as an Instagram user, I see a bunch of

Starting point is 00:19:43 these influencers and all of these people posting anti-ice, anti-implacements. immigration enforcement content. And it seems organic. These people are crying into the camera about how awful this is that we're deporting illegal aliens. But you're telling me that this is not really organic. So how does this work? Yeah, some of it's obviously organic. But to your point, yeah, a lot of it is being generated and created. And I'll give you a couple of examples. So the government of Mexico, people kind of view Mexico as kind of this corrupt, hapless government. They really can't get anything through. They actually have a very aggressive program in the United States to meddle in our politics in really, really direct ways.

Starting point is 00:20:28 So, for example, they have this network of Mexican government officials who actually live inside the United States. These are senior government officials that answer to the Mexican government. but they actually live in the United States. And some of them are involved in fanning the flames and even organizing some of these violent protests we've seen. So, for example, when we had the riots in Los Angeles last year, there were several Mexican officials. I name them, I quote them in the book, that were fanning the flames. They were on social media. They were connected with the groups that were, you know, engaging in these violent protests.

Starting point is 00:21:05 You had last year a Mexican official named Alejandro Robles. He's the head of international operations for the Morena Party, which is the ruling party of Mexico. That's the party that the current president is aligned with. And he in 2025 was going across the United States to, in his words, organize the militancy. And he bragged about how he and migrants and people he was working with were at, quote, the forefront of civil resistance in America, end quote. This is, again, a foreign government official who lives in Ontario, California. And he was meeting with people like the People's Forum, which is an Antifa, a group in New York.

Starting point is 00:21:50 And he was meeting with many others. Then you look at what's going on in Minneapolis, and you notice that the Twin Cities, of course, St. Paul, has a Mexican consulate there. And there are several groups, clues, and another one's called Mirac, which were involved in some of these violent protests. who do a lot of work with the Mexican embassy. Then let's switch to China just briefly. Two of the very radical groups that you see pop up all the time in these street battles, whether it's Minneapolis, Los Angeles, certainly during BLM, certainly during the anti-Israel protests across the Eastern Seaboard.

Starting point is 00:22:28 These two groups are FRSO, the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, and PSL, the Party for Socialism and Liberation. These are small but extremely active. They believe in direct action, which is basically violence. These two groups have committed themselves ideologically, and they are aligned with and work with the Chinese Communist Party. And some of these groups are getting funding from a gentleman named Roy Singham, a billionaire, American billionaire, who lives in Shanghai, describes himself as a malist who is close to the CCP. So yes, you do have, you know, these, let's say, women in their 50s in Minnesota that are blowing whistles and screaming and shouting at ice officers. But the people that are really doing the direct action, a lot of the fighting, a lot of the, you know, organizing the, you know, the frozen bottles of water that they're throwing at ice officers.

Starting point is 00:23:24 These are these foreign involved or foreign directed entities. And that's what's really going on here. Yes. And I want to be clear about what I was talking about earlier. about these influencers who are posting this kind of anti-ice, what I believe is propaganda. It's not that I believe those people are directly Chinese actors. They are funded by the CCP. But all of these entities you're saying is simply contributing to the chaos that is then leading possibly. And you can clarify if this is kind of not what you're arguing.

Starting point is 00:23:57 But people like Renee Good or Alex Preti to put themselves in front of ICE officers to pretend that they're fighting Nazis to justify this kind of agitation and impeding law enforcement operations that then is getting them killed. And then those images are used as a catalyst for even more activism to try to oppose immigration enforcement. And within all of that, are these agitators and these propagandists from foreign governments that are kind of stoking the flames of this confusion. Is that correct? Yes. That's exactly. That's exactly. Exactly right. That's very well said. And look, the bottom line is, and I understand why people say we need to figure out ways to tone down the conflict. And I agree with that. But let's be honest, the goal, what they want is to ramp up the conflict. When you say we need to try to tone it down, the assumption there is that the other side also wants to tone it down. The sad reality is these hardcore activists, they want martyrs. They want people that are getting shot and getting killed. because it's good for the cause.

Starting point is 00:25:06 It's a horrible view, but that is what their view is. So we need to realize that. We also need to realize that this is part of a national problem. It's not just an issue related to Minneapolis. We're going to see this cropping up elsewhere. There are already efforts to organize, I think, may be happening tomorrow, a nationwide protests. And again, it's going to be direct action where they are physical confrontations with law enforcement because they want a fight.

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Starting point is 00:27:39 So tell me why that is. Yeah, no, you're exactly right. I mean, people say, oh, you know, they're walking around with masks on. Why are they walking around with masks on? They weren't doxed 10 years ago. There weren't people running around when Obama was doing this, trying to docks and physically threaten ice agents and their families. So there's a reason for this.

Starting point is 00:27:59 And again, what's happening is very sophisticated. It's very organized. So you see, you know, when these things happen, that they're organizing on these private chats. And a lot of these techniques are things that have been developed by, you know, Cuban intelligence and other entities. Some of the people involved in these protests have actually been trained in Cuba, part of the so-called Vince Ramos brigades. So this is something that is not random. And if you watch the extended videos of what's happening in the streets, rather than these just small snippets, the organized nature of this is what happened. And so let's summarize what's at stake here, Allie, because I think people sometimes forget the larger picture.

Starting point is 00:28:46 Here's the bottom line issue. Nobody seemingly disputes that federal law says that we have a right to deport these people. Nobody disputes that federal law enforcement is doing what they're supposed to be doing, which is deporting people. You have Tim Walls and you have other local officials who have decided we don't like that federal law. So we're going to muck it up and make sure that they can't actually carry out federal law. The last time this happened was in 1950s, 1960s, Mississippi and Alabama. Right. It's the exact same thing.

Starting point is 00:29:22 You've got an arrogant governor who is saying, an arrogant governor who is saying, I don't care what the federal law says. I don't care what a national election concluded because Donald Trump said he was going to do this. I decide that I'm not going to allow federal law to be enforced in my state. And Tim Wallace is another guy who wants martyrs and wants conflict because he thinks it's a politically good issue for him. Right. You know, you say that this is a national problem, and it obviously is. But others have pointed out that this kind of deadly chaos is not happening in every single jurisdiction. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche pointed this out. You know, we're also deporting illegal aliens in Texas, and we're not seeing this kind of conflict. Let's place that one. We deport 10 times the number of illegal aliens out of Texas than we do out of Minneapolis. Why do we hear nothing out of Texas about any of the same problems that we have in Minneapolis?

Starting point is 00:30:18 I'll tell you why. Because in Texas, we have the cooperation and support of local law enforcement so that we can do these operations safely, keeping U.S. citizens and others protected and safe. That is not what we have in Minneapolis. And the fact that it's the administration that's being blamed for the utter failure of leadership in Minneapolis is not right. It's not appropriate. And it's also not true. Okay, so Minneapolis is also the epicenter of chaos back in 2020. Why is it that places like L.A., Portland, and Minneapolis seem to just attract this kind of conflict? It's a great question. And the answer is,

Starting point is 00:30:58 in order to engage in this kind of direct action successfully, you need essentially the complicit support of local authorities. You need mayors and governors who are not going to deploy local law enforcement, and you need local prosecutors that are not going to prosecute people. So, you know, has happened in Minneapolis, you can, you know, go into a church, take over the church service, you can threaten people, you can do a whole host of other things, you can be told to leave and ignore that request. You're going to be arrested, and local prosecutors are going to basically say, yeah, well, no, we're not going to allow this to go through. So you need to have both of those elements. And the reason that you see they fight so viciously in places like

Starting point is 00:31:41 Minneapolis and California is political power. That's really the bottom line. If you look at the state of California, Alley, they have, because of illegals in the state of California, four more congressional seats than they would ordinarily have because of illegals in that state. Because when we do the census, which determines the Electoral College apportionment and determines the number of congressional seats you get. We're not counting citizens. We're counting people. And so they want illegals in their state for that reason. And if four congressmen doesn't sound like a lot, consider the fact that illegals in California have more representation than people in 13 other U.S. states that have smaller congressional delegations. So it's an

Starting point is 00:32:30 enormous political benefit. That's why you're seeing resistance in California, Illinois, Minnesota, these states that have lost large populations, you know, since COVID with sort of the migration from these blue states, they cannot have deportations on a large scale within their states because they will lose political power and they will also lose money because let's remember federal block grants on a whole host of issues, transportation, et cetera. is again determined by the census. That's why they're fighting this so viciously. It's not humanitarian.

Starting point is 00:33:07 It's for their own political benefit. You know, that kind of answers another question that I had is, why did we see all of this opposition to ICE after the widespread fraud in Minneapolis was revealed? I mean, now we know that these Somalians, some legal, some illegal, were using daycare's adult daycare centers, whatever that is, to get a lot of money from the taxpayer and that that money is seemingly being funneled to the Democrat Party, other politicians in the state of Minnesota. And it's just strange that, you know, people in Minnesota would say after I realize my taxpayer money is being stolen from me for nefarious ends,

Starting point is 00:33:49 that's when I'm going to get really angry that people are being deported. That to me doesn't seem like an organic logical reaction. Yeah, no, I think that's a great point. And, And I think that the fraud in Somalia, again, we're missing, I think, the larger issue here. Not to say that a multi-billion dollar fraud in the state of Minnesota is not a big deal. But I think the way people have viewed this is that this is kind of, again, you know, people come here from Somalia. It's one of the most corrupt places on the planet. That's not me saying that. That's what all the surveys say.

Starting point is 00:34:22 And so people say, well, this is just kind of what you would expect. but this is again actually highly organized. And one of the things I point out in the book is when it comes to groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, they are very active in America's mosques. A lot of the mosques in the United States are run by individuals who are here on R1 visas, religious worker visas from overseas. They're actually not from the United States. And one of the things they preach is this sort of strange notion that public, assistance fraud is like a tax on non-Muslims that are owed to Muslims. It's called Jizrat, I think is what they call it. And there are preachers, including in places like Minnesota, who have said this,

Starting point is 00:35:09 who have argued this. So it's not just that you have people saying, hey, we think we're going to engage in fraud. You actually have people that are encouraging this kind of behavior, at least among people that are part of their faith. Obviously, a lot of Muslims would reject this view, but the bottom line, this is a very vocal movement that's pushed by the Muslim Brotherhood to engage in this kind of fraud, that it's legitimate behavior. And that makes it even more difficult to tamp down on. And I think that's the reason we're going to see more of these cases involving people in these communities and not just in Minnesota. Another pause to tell you about good ranchers. Y'all, I've been telling you about good ranchers for, gosh, it's been five years now.

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Starting point is 00:37:48 Care, of course, you've talked about it, others have talked about it, cancel in American Islamic relations. This is from a 2025 speech. Listen to what he says. How do we even justify living here in the United States? I mean, why are we living here? Have we asked? Have we? ourselves this question, why are we living in the United States? The only answer, I believe, is excusable and justifiable as if we are living here to shift this country's political direction and spiritual direction together. Or another quote from a board member of care of the National Board, quote, ultimately we can never be full citizens of this country because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions of this country. We can be citizens in the sense that we

Starting point is 00:38:33 try to influence American policy. So it begins with this very aggressive effort within the Islamic community to say, no, don't assimilate. And if you do assimilate, we are going to ostracize you. We are going to attack you and criticize you. Because the point is, they do not want people that immigrate here of the Muslim faith to embrace the American dream. That means they're going to lose them. So you have this very organized, highly funded effort by the, these activists, by these groups, by these imams to fight against the United States, not embrace it. And there are numerous other quotes in my book. There's an imam one of the biggest mosques in Michigan who said just, you know, a year ago, he told everybody in the congregation, we need to

Starting point is 00:39:24 fight Western civilization. Western civilization is over. We are the future. We need to fight it. So it begins with that. And then it begins with, again, in their own words, their hope that American apathy will serve their political agenda. They firmly believe that if they can achieve a population of, you know, 10 or 11 percent in a certain area, they can win elections because most of the average American is, you know, politically not that engaged. They don't vote. They certainly don't vote in primaries. and they use the Mumdani election in New York as an example. And people want to think, well, that's crazy New York.

Starting point is 00:40:04 That's not where I live. They talked about this several years before that if we can find a Muslim candidate that we can get behind, we can win the Democratic nomination because we can get our people out to vote, even though we're a small percentage of the population. And that's the model they are now going to replicate across the country. And they're very confident that they're going to have success. The final thing I would say, Allie, is that again, there is an international component to this. I talk about this in the book.

Starting point is 00:40:34 Mammani's election in New York was watched very closely in Tehran, and it was also watched very closely by groups like Hezbollah, the terrorist group in Lebanon, because they see these victories in the United States as an opportunity to expand their sphere of influence within our own borders. So tell me why the Muslim Brotherhood, Mexico, the Chinese Communist Party, who do not believe in things like transgenderism, disproportionately support progressivism and the Democrat Party in the United States. Yeah, no, it's a great question. It's the most bizarre thing when you see the trans rights activist next to, you know, the devout, radicalized fundamentalist Muslim, who would reject everything that the trans rights activist. rights activists believe in how they're living their life. And the answer goes back to a meeting that sort of began what is called the red-green alliance between the Marxists and the Islamists.

Starting point is 00:41:33 It was a meeting in 2007 when the son and daughter of Che Guevara, the butcher of the Cuban Revolution, who, you know, some college students wear a t-shirt with his image on it on college campuses, his adult children who are atheist Marxists who live in Cuba, traveled to Tehran to meet with the Mullahs. And according to the accounts of that meeting, the meeting did not get off to a good start. They first, they started arguing about the existence of God. And they obviously had very different views on that. But eventually they brushed all that aside. And Ali, what they concluded and what they said after that meeting is, we disagree in a lot of things, but we agree on one thing. And that is the fundamental need to destroy the

Starting point is 00:42:17 United States and Western civilization. So this is a marriage of convenience. And what I would say to my progressive friends out there, and I do have friends that I disagree with politically, is you should read the quotes in my book because what the imams will tell you is this is a marriage of convenience. When we have won, we are going to deal with these people because we find these progressives, these atheists, these trans-right activists, abhorrents. And once we defeat Western civilization, don't worry, we're going to go deal with those people. So it is a marriage of convenience. They are going to divide the spoils, and then the Islamists are going to declare war on the progressives at that point in time. Yeah. It's not that these Islamists actually agree with the values of progressivism. It's that the values of

Starting point is 00:43:06 progressivism make them vulnerable to conquest. When you value completely untethered to truth, by the way, tolerance and diversity and unconditional open money. unconditional acceptance and inclusion, you become very vulnerable to chaos. And so to me, that is why the CCP and these other groups that are really opposed to a lot of their principles take advantage of them and, you know, take on progressivism like a skin suit. Last sponsor for the day is my Patriot Supply. So the Southeast has just been hit with a horrible winter storm. We don't deal well with snow and ice in the south. That is why I love my Patriot Supply because if you run out of power or you can't go to the grocery store, you need

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Starting point is 00:44:48 kit. Go to Mypatriotsapply.com slash Alley. Take advantage of that deal right now. Mypatriotsapply.com slash Alley. Okay, gosh, there's so much more that I want to ask you. I've got two more questions quickly. We've talked about surrogacy and really the global surrogacy and trafficking industry that exists and how China in particular takes advantage of our immigration laws here and uses American surrogates to create Chinese American babies. Tell us what is going on behind the scenes there and why that is happening. Yeah, this might be the most horrific thing that we uncovered. Look, we have this debate in the country about birthright citizenship, the 14th Amendment. Some people believe the 14th Amendment means that anybody born within the borders of the United

Starting point is 00:45:42 States, that baby automatically gets U.S. citizenship. And I think a lot of people have a sense that, Like, is this really a big deal? I mean, okay, somebody comes across the border that they live here 20 years. They happen to have a child. The problem is that China has an industrial scale exploitation of birthright citizenship that is creating a massive national security problem. And so what do I mean? Well, our federal government has no idea how many children have been born here that are getting

Starting point is 00:46:13 birthright citizenship. They have no idea because when you get a birth certificate in the United States, it does not give the nationality of the parents. Nobody's tracking it. Our federal government doesn't know. China has encouraged this. They've encouraged it in the people's daily, their biggest newspaper. They've told members of the Chinese elite, go to the United States.

Starting point is 00:46:33 You can get citizenship for your kids. They allow a thriving industry where there are literally hundreds of companies that will make these arrangements for members of the Chinese elite. The question, of course, is why? why would China want its elite to get U.S. citizenship? And I think we all kind of know what that answer probably is. But the scale here is the point I want to emphasize. China has, the Chinese government has investigated this. Chinese research firms have looked at it.

Starting point is 00:47:01 And they say that over the last 13 years, every single year, roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States. In other words, their parents fly here. the mother gives birth after a couple of weeks. When the baby is ready to travel, they fly back to China, and the child will be raised in China, in CCP schools with the CCP control, with CCP media. And the problem is, when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote in the United States, and they're going to be able to contribute to political campaigns, and they're going to be able to apply for government jobs.

Starting point is 00:47:39 So do the math, we're looking at more than a million, according to the Chinese. according to the Chinese government estimate of quote-unquote U.S. citizens, I'll put that in air quotes, who are being raised in China that are going to be able to start voting in our elections in just a couple of years. Let's remember the 2016 presidential election Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, was settled by, what, 72,000 votes. So this is a massive problem. You have the additional problem of surrogacy. This is when Chinese elites will hire a woman in the United States, or pay her 50 to 60, $60,000 to carry their baby. When that baby is born, it will be given U.S. citizenship.

Starting point is 00:48:18 It's born here. Its mother is also a U.S. citizen. We don't know the scale of this. The Chinese government has not looked into it. Again, it's openly advertised in China, but a couple of brief data points. Number one, we looked at Southern California, and we found 107 Chinese-owned surrogacy companies that are advertising these services in China. And 107 just in Southern California. And the second data point is the Wall Street Journal ran a story about five weeks ago involving one man, a Chinese billionaire close to the CCP, who says that he alone by himself has more than 100 children. Yep. That were born in the United States that are being raised in China right now.

Starting point is 00:49:05 So this is a massive, massive vulnerability and problem. Yeah, I mean, it's human trafficking. And it's not even just for the purpose of. trafficking these humans and making money and all of this. But as you are arguing, this has long-term political consequences when you have this dual citizenship and they're being propagandized their whole lives against the United States, then can come back to the United States. So obviously, we are talking about illegal immigration, but we're talking about legal immigration too. We are talking about not enforcing the laws on the books and the laws on the books not being what

Starting point is 00:49:37 they should be. What do you see the Trump administration doing to combat all of the things? that we've been talking about. Well, very fortunate before the book came out. I had about an hour-long meeting with the president, the Treasury Secretary Besson and also the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, were in that meeting in the Oval Office. We laid out a lot of this information. It can't go into details,

Starting point is 00:50:02 but I expect we're going to see some action from the Trump administration. I would also add that we had very good meetings on Capitol Hill with a number of U.S. senators and with James Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee. I will be testifying before the Senate on the issue of China surrogacy and manipulation of birthright citizenship. I think it's on March the 10th. And I also have reason to believe that the administration and others are going to be using this information in the Supreme Court discussions on birthright citizenship. Those arguments, I think, will be occurring in a few weeks. And I just think it's vitally important for the Supreme Court justices to

Starting point is 00:50:43 realize these are not random things that just kind of happen. This is highly organized. It is an industrial scale effort to mint U.S. citizens. And these U.S. citizens are being raised in China. And they will have the rights that all of us have who live here and participate and love America. Peter, thank you so much, the invisible coup, how American elites and foreign powers use immigration as a weapon. This is the book that everyone needs to read right now to know what's really going on. Peter, thank you so much. Thanks so much for having me, Allie. I enjoyed it.

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