Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1350 | Call Her Mommy? Alex Cooper’s Pregnancy Gives False Hope

Starting point is 00:00:00 Alex Cooper, the host of the sex podcast, Call Her Daddy, is now pregnant with her husband. But what happens if you really buy what Alex Cooper is selling? Also, is Florida close to declaring surrogacy, slavery? We've got all of that, plus some lifestyle motherhood pitter-patter on today's episode of Relatable. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. All right, women, sign up.

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Starting point is 00:01:22 the stats are telling us about the liberalization of young women, the man-hatingness of young women and the feminism, truly the toxic feminism that we see on Instagram and TikTok, just talking about how terrible husbands are and how terrible men are and all of these things, Despite all of this propaganda, I think that women in their heart of hearts still want a quote unquote traditional man, a man who is going to protect them, a man who is going to provide for them, a man who is going to take charge and lead them. The reaction that I have seen to Dylan Spouse and his wife, Barbara Palvin, announcing her pregnancy, announcing their expectation of their first child, the arrival of their first child, has demonstrated.

Starting point is 00:02:09 straighted this to me even more. So last month, report service that Dylan Sprauss, you know him from the sweet life of Zach and Cody. I have no idea if he was Zach or Cody. Does anyone in this room know? He was Cody. Okay, Stu, I didn't think that you were going to be the one to tell us. He was Zach. Stu was wrong. Okay, so he was Zach from Zach and Cody fame. He tackled a trespasser and held him at gunpoint until police arrived after his wife, Barbara Palvin noticed a creepy man on their property shortly after midnight, and they were asked about it on the red carpet for The Devil Wears Prada 2, where Dylan kind of just made light of the incident at Sop 5. I know he had a scary incident happen soon. Are you guys doing okay?

Starting point is 00:02:55 All right. We're good. We're happy. Haya! Enough said. That's it. Yay. That'll do it. No, we're just happy for it. his distraction, you know.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Okay, whatever. People liked what he did and people online had a very positive reaction to him taking charge and tackling this person and taking this threat seriously. But this took on this incident and them talking about it took on an entirely new light after the couple announced that they are expecting their first child. And so we can see we've got a little voice over here. She looks absolutely beautiful. So they're at the Cannes Film Festival in France.

Starting point is 00:03:41 And you can see there she's pregnant pretty far along. I mean, she looks like a glowing angel. Am I the only person, by the way, who thinks that they look alike? I think that they look like. But they are a beautiful couple. And you've got this picture here. You've got a couple pictures of them just looking at each other completely in love. This news, yes, there's one beautiful.

Starting point is 00:04:05 There's another one of them gazing into each other's eyes. I love it. They literally look like a prince and princess. us. So beautiful. So this news comes less than a year after Barbara underwent surgery related to her endometriosis diagnosis. Indometriosis, it is. I don't have to go into what it is, but it can actually prevent you from being able to get pregnant and carry a pregnancy all the way through in a healthy way. And so now people on Reddit, Reddit, the most progressive and degenerative places on the internet. They're making comments like this on the story. No wonder.

Starting point is 00:04:41 he busted out the gun because she is pregnant and so has to protect not only his woman but also his baby. Another comment said, that baby is never going to stop hearing about this and you know what? Deserved. Even in these photos, this redditor says, I can feel how protective he is towards her right now. Women want this. And you know how I also know that women want this? Because yes, there is a lot of absolute trash out there when it comes to movies, when it comes to shows, when it comes to podcasts, when it comes to Instagram. and TikTok content, and when it comes to fiction out there that women are reading. But you know what the common theme is, especially in those fiction books? The guy is strong. The guy takes charge. The guy basically shows up and says, I'm the boss. I'm going to take care of this. You don't have to worry about anything. I'm going to sweep you off your feet. You know, I've said very often that human

Starting point is 00:05:34 nature and really just truth, biological truth, moral truth, biblical truth. It's like a beach ball. And you can try to push it down from the surface of the water, but it's going to keep popping back up. And so despite all of the feminist propaganda, the reaction to stories like this, even from women who call themselves anti-man and who claim that they don't want to get married and they don't want a traditional life and they just want to have fun for the next 10 years, in their heart of hearts, they don't want a she man. They don't. They don't want a wimp as a husband. and they're not attracted to that. They want a man who says, this is what we're going to do. I'm going to protect you.

Starting point is 00:06:14 And of course, who respects her and loves her and sees her as valuable and values her opinion and her wisdom and all of that, absolutely. But at the end of the day, women want someone who is going to protect them and be strong. Even the chief promiscuity podcaster Alex Cooper. So Alex Cooper is the 31-year-old host of the podcast. podcast call her daddy. It is the most listened to podcast by women, according to Spotify. This has been a podcast that has existed for a long time. She used to have a co-host, I think, named Sophia. It was on Barstool Sports, but then she took it over. This was a very big, dramatic thing when she left Barstool. And she has made an empire. She also owns a couple other

Starting point is 00:07:00 companies. But the entire premise of the show is sex and talking about their sex capades and detail talking about how they have basically hoed around for years. And now she doesn't have a co-host. It's just her talking about these things. She has lots and lots of celebrities on her show, very famous people. She had Kamala Harris on her show when she was running for president. I don't think she asked Kamala Harris about anything sexual. Please Lord, no. But she typically does ask celebrities, these very verboten inappropriate questions. So that is. still what her podcast is about in addition to just drama. But she asks very detailed sexually explicit questions to her guests. And this is what a lot of young women are listening to.

Starting point is 00:07:50 Well, she just announced that she is pregnant. Okay. So she's got this picture that she posted on Instagram. Her caption, she missed an opportunity to caption it, call her mommy. I don't know why. but I forget what she said. Oh, our family. That's what she said. She posted this with her husband. He's a film producer, Matt Kaplan. Okay, so she is married. She got married a few years ago, looked beautiful on her wedding day, and now she is pregnant. Okay, we searched for some clips that we could play you that would just give you like a demonstration of who she is and the things that she talks about. But I really can't. Like we could go all the way back to like, 2018 when she had the co-host and the things that they were talking about. But it's just, it's too much. Like there's nothing really that we can play on here. Even today, the things that she talks about, you get the idea. It's a sex gossip podcast. So I think that it kind of surprised people when a couple years ago she announced, okay, I'm actually going to be leading that trad life in her 20s. She decided to get married to a man named Matt Capald.

Starting point is 00:09:04 And she talked a lot about why she decided to make this big commitment after she had talked about for so many years, not really making a big commitment. So we'll get into that in just a second. Let me pause and tell you about our first sponsor. It's Adele Natural Cosmetics. If you are looking for a clean beauty that you can feel good about putting on your skin, it's not only going to make you look good, but it'll make you feel good because you'll know that it's the right thing for your body. It's actually helping you rather than, you know, filling your system with endocrine disruptor, synthetic fragrances, all that kind of fake stuff. Adele Natural Cosmetics uses only natural ingredients in all of their makeup,

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Starting point is 00:10:50 She said that to Vogue. She waited until about six weeks after the engagement to tell her audience, until then, they had only known him as Mr. Sexy Zoom man because they apparently originally met on a Zoom work call. And then, And she also discussed that after she got married, she went off birth control for the first time since she was 16. So again, we see this very traditional trajectory that she is not preaching to her audience. She said in a January episode of the podcast that though she didn't want kids in her 20s, she now wanted them because she done quote unquote self-work. I don't want kids, if that's what you're asking. Do you want kids?

Starting point is 00:11:32 I do. Do you do? Okay. When I was, I think if you asked me in my 20s, I really didn't think I did. That's interesting because most people know. I did not know. I did not know. And they stick with that.

Starting point is 00:11:45 Okay. Okay. So you're 20. I didn't think I wanted to get married and I didn't think I want to have kids. Wow. I got married and I want kids. You want kids. Okay.

Starting point is 00:11:51 But it really changed for me. And I think it was just like a lot of self work that I had to do on myself, not saying that like you have to do self work to want to have kids. It just for me in the place I was in my life, I couldn't even fathom it. Yes. And then something changed. And I think. that's okay that I was just like, you know what? I actually think I do. Yes. And so I don't know when

Starting point is 00:12:08 and timeline, but like for right now, I'm like, this is something I definitely know I want and I wasn't sure of. She is wrong. Most people, if you are a woman in your 20s and you are hooking up with a bunch of guys, of course you don't want kids because you don't feel safe. You don't feel loved. You don't feel cared for. Like your cortisol is up all the time because you are not only, you know, scrapping for yourself, but you also are giving your heart and your body. way to all of these people, of course, your mind and your body and your heart is not in the right place to want to have kids and to sacrifice your body and yourself and your money for that child. I think that most women have to either be able to imagine or actually feel in that moment

Starting point is 00:12:51 a sense of safety and security. And so you really can't know if you want kids in a particular stage of life. I think for a lot of women, they have to meet the right person and feel that sense of security in order to have kids. But certainly if you're leading a totally promiscuous lifestyle, I think it goes hand in hand with not wanting to put anyone else first and not wanting to sacrifice in any way for a little human. So again, I think it's so interesting that as she has foregone her old advice and the things that she told so many women, as she has abandoned her old way of life, that she is still promoting to so many women, she has decided to get married to stay with one person forever. Interesting that she comes from a marriage where her parents

Starting point is 00:13:37 stayed together forever. And I just wonder if she's a little bit more traditional deep down and has always been a little bit more traditional deep down than she has let on. And if a lot of this is because she just realized what people have realized for a very long time, that sex sells. And this is what works. And so it would be really hard to, stop talking about things like that when that is what has made you millions and millions of dollars. Conversely to where she found joy, so she found joy in matrimony and then having children, Alex recently, I can't play this clip, but Alex recently trended, she turned it online for advising women to kiss or even sleep with men on the first date. And I have the clip in front of

Starting point is 00:14:21 me, but it's really crass and I just don't want to play it. But this is the advice that she continues to give women. And so it's not like, okay, she realized that that was a dead end and she changed her ways. She is continuing to sell this kind of advice. I just think it's crazy. Just a couple quick things. I think it's crazy how mainstream Alex Cooper is that she is not considered by the mainstream world to be scandalous at all. She is not too far into the sex world for a presidential candidate to come on the podcast and to have a conversation with them. Remember, Kamala Harris came on the podcast. Like, if you look at the comments, you see a lot of celebrities, a lot of self-help people. You'll probably see some of your friends, like liking her post, not just the pregnancy post, but others.

Starting point is 00:15:08 You would be surprised by the people in your life who call themselves Christians who are fans of Alex Cooper. Now, compare that to how a Christian is treated. Or someone who's like, yeah, who plays, you know, for the MLB, for example, and doesn't want to celebrate Pride Nights. they make headlines for that. They're ostracized for that. I remember Gina Carano, she questioned the COVID narrative and she was fired by Disney several years ago. Like if you are not part of the liberal side of things, then you are considered just too radical and too extreme. But no matter how far left you are when it comes to the left side of things, you are considered mainstream. not just people like Alex Cooper, who is basically a podcast prostitute, but also people like

Starting point is 00:15:54 Hassan Piker, who talks about regularly the need to spill blood and to kill the people in charge of our health care system and who justifies this kind of murderous violence in the name of socialism and communism. That can be platformed by the New York Times. That can be softened. That can be accepted as mainstream, but if you're a little too Christian or you take the Bible seriously or if you're conservative and you just don't go along with the mainstream narrative about things like COVID, then you're marginalized. It should go without saying, but apparently it doesn't, that Christians should not be fans of Alex Cooper.

Starting point is 00:16:37 Like you should pray for her, but you shouldn't be listening to her podcast. Shouldn't be watching her stuff. You shouldn't be following her. Ephesians 511 through 12 is really clear about this. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them for it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. And that's what she does. She speaks of the things that are supposed to be intimate, that are supposed to be sacred,

Starting point is 00:16:59 that are supposed to be hidden, that are supposed to be between a man and a woman in holy matrimony. Sex is a gift that was given to us by God. It is not a commodity to be sold on Spotify or in a brothel. It's basically the same thing. there is an irony in all of this and I just want to use this opportunity for any of you who maybe you don't see the problem with this or maybe you know someone in your life a young woman in her 20s who doesn't see the problem with what Alex Cooper promotes and maybe

Starting point is 00:17:30 they believe that they can go along the same path that Alex Cooper has the problem is it's not a promise that can be made good on all right I'll get to that in just a second let me pause, let me go ahead and tell you about our second sponsor. It's Alliance Defending Freedom. And all they're asking in this advertisement is for you to pray along with them. As America celebrates her 250th birthday, we are praying that God would have mercy on us, that he would give our leaders wisdom, and that he would allow people like those at the Alliance at Alliance Defending Freedom to continue to fight for our First Amendment rights, to fight for our religious liberty, to fight for free speech to fight for the rights of women and girls to sex exclusive spaces. They're doing this

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Starting point is 00:19:30 So this is a warning. This is my warning to the young women who follow Alex Cooper. Most women who follow Cooper's advice will not end up with a marriage proposal. You will not end up having a beautiful wedding, wearing white, then getting pregnant a few years later. Most women who have multiple sexual partners, pursue unregulated sexual pleasure, have a series of unhealthy, unsurious relationships, and one-night stand will end up with STDs and broken hearts and a long list of regrets by the time they reach 35. No marriage prospects and a personal crisis when they realize that their window for fertility is closing. and there is no potential father on the horizon. That is the typical practical consequence of living this kind of life. Alex Cooper has been able to rich and famous her way out of those consequences.

Starting point is 00:20:22 If she was your average girl without wealth or power, she likely would not have the life that she has now. The result of her life will make you believe that it's a given that you can also live 15 years of total promiscuity in that as soon as you want to stop, as soon as you decide you want your life to change and that the trad life is now for you, you'll be able to find a man and settle down. That is possible, but it's not plausible. And the longer you pursue that life and the older you get, the less plausible that kind of sudden switch becomes. And you might think that your beauty will ensure that you avoid the consequences of those

Starting point is 00:20:58 long-term choices. And physical beauty does help. I won't lie, it does help. It absolutely widens the prospect field. But beauty fades. And you cannot rely on it as your guarantee of finding. a husband whenever you get bored of partying in your 30s. I know beautiful women who have pursued that life for a very long time and they want to get married and they honestly believe that

Starting point is 00:21:19 continuing to have these series of hookups will somehow lead them to their future husband, but it's a lie. It's a lie of the devil. It leads to a dead end every time. So just from a practical tough love standpoint, not from a judgmental standpoint, but from a if I were your big sister, this is what I would tell you perspective, do not listen to Alex Cooper for anything. Your heart will be broken. Your body will be used. And here's why this matters. It's not just because it lessens your chances of marriage and children, which are two wonderful blessings that God created for his glory and our good, but because you were created for his glory and for the good of other people. You are too valuable to be used as an object of sexual pleasure by men. Your purpose is

Starting point is 00:22:06 so much bigger than doing what feels good to you at any given moment. You are created by, you are known by, you are seen by, you are loved by a God who made your body. He made it to be protected, to be cherished, to be honored, to be cared for. And the reason that sex is designed for marriage and only marriage is because that is the only place it can happen safely without consequences. This is protected for women especially. Marriage is protected for children too, who need both a mom and a dad to nurture and protect them, God knew what he was doing when he created the family and the strict parameters surrounding sex.

Starting point is 00:22:43 He created these things because he loves us and because he knows what's best for us. The creator of anything knows how it works. God created our bodies. He knows how our bodies work. He knows best how to take care of them. And sex is so incredibly powerful. And it can be a power for good

Starting point is 00:23:03 or a power for harm. And the reason that it has to be harnessed, the reason that it has to be regulated is so that it can actually be productive and fruitful and beautiful and intimate and connecting rather than the opposite of all of those things, which is what it becomes when it's taken out of the bounds of marriage. And I do want to speak also just to the woman who has already gone down that path. I want to tell you this. I want to tell you some hopefully comforting things to hear, but also something that might be a little bit countercultural and difficult for you to hear. The first is really, really good news. And this is true, not just for you, but for all of us, is that you are not too far gone. You are not beyond forgiveness or redemption. Jesus is in the business of making

Starting point is 00:23:49 us new. He gives us a new identity. He wipes our slate clean. He does away with all of our past sins so that when we stand before God, we stand before him completely and totally spotless, like no blemish at all. There's nothing that you have done that makes you beyond his reach or his love for you. Some people will tell you, and this is the little bit of a hard thing to hear. I think even Christian women, women who are already following Christ, have a hard time hearing this. The Alex Cooper's of the world will tell you this, that shame is bad. Shame is always bad. That you should never feel bad about what you do. You should just push that down. That is wrong. look, if you feel shame over what you have done, there is a reason for that.

Starting point is 00:24:33 That is a actually good and healthy mechanism. That's a really good sign. It's a signal to you that something's gone wrong. That shame that you feel is called conviction. And it is telling you something. It's communicating something to you. It is telling you that you're guilty. As we all have been, by the way, it's telling you that that road is not one you should go down.

Starting point is 00:24:54 That there is a better way. Jesus offers the better way. His death on the cross paid for all of your sins. His word gives you the guide for how to live a life of purpose, of joy, of purity, of fulfillment so that you no longer feel the drive to look for love in all the wrong places. You know that those are all dead ends. Don't go down those roads. And if you already have, you can stop.

Starting point is 00:25:19 No matter where you are on your path as a woman, no matter what your sin struggle is, whether it's promiscuity or not, it is not too late to turn around. God offers a free gift of grace. You can't earn it to those who put their faith in Jesus's sacrifice for you by grace through faith. Okay, you don't have to clean yourself up first. You don't have to start reading your Bible first. You don't have to pray a prayer first. You don't have to look a certain way first. You first go to God. You ask for forgiveness. You ask for the ability to change your ways. You ask him to give you grace. You ask him for wisdom. And God gives abundantly to those who seek him. And he gives it for free through Jesus Christ. He's got a new way of

Starting point is 00:26:02 life for all of those who would follow him. And God is a forgiving God no matter what you have done because of Christ and because of your faith in Christ. He no longer sees those things. He wants a relationship with you. He wants to be reconciled to you. He wants to be friends with you. That's really good news. And you know what? I pray that some have how through motherhood God would show Alex Cooper the truth of the gospel. And I hope that at one point, because of that conviction, that she sees the pain that she has caused through her promotion of degeneracy. And I pray that her audience would wake up to the truth, that they'd repent, that they

Starting point is 00:26:41 would walk in a way that is good and right and true. Isaiah 520 has a very serious warning for all of us. It says, woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. It's exactly what she's doing. That's what the world does when they hoist her up as good and they denigrate, you know, pro-lifers as evil. 1st Corinthians 618, flee from sexual immorality. Don't be entertained by it. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Hebrews 13.4, let marriage be held in honor among all and let the marriage

Starting point is 00:27:23 bad be undefiled for God will judge the sexually immoral and the adulteress. Wow, God really cares about that. He cares about that a whole lot because he hates sin. He hates it because he's perfect, first and foremost, but I think he also hates it because it hurts us. And so her podcast is not neutral. Her message is not neutral. It's hurting you. It's hurting your soul. It's hurting your heart. It's hurting body. So I just pray that people would turn away from it. And I pray that she would see the as well. All right. We're going to stay on the kind of pregnancy subject, but something entirely different. In the state of Florida, they are declaring surrogacy, slavery. Is this really true? Is it really akin to slavery? Well, we've talked about surrogacy a lot, and I am amazed at how fast

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Starting point is 00:29:31 Help save a life. Go to preborn.com slash alley. Okay, so this is a fascinating story. Last August, a gay couple from France appeared before a Broward County court in Florida for a surrogacy case. The two men had contracted with a Florida woman to kill. carry a child and as the due date approach petitioned for early parental rights. This is according to the Tampa Bay Times and you'll notice something right away. France and surrogacy and France rather

Starting point is 00:30:03 is highly regulated if not completely illegal. That is the case in most places in Europe. America is the wild, wild west for reproductive technology because it is extremely lucrative. And so it's basically unregulated. You don't have to have a background check. You can. You can For example, if you're a couple that works with the CCP and you want your child to have American citizenship, they can get birthright citizenship here in the United States just by being birthed by a surrogate. There are all kinds of issues. That actually happens. That's not just a hypothetical. There are all kinds of issues.

Starting point is 00:30:39 You could be a child trafficker. You could be a pedophile. There's not this intense background scrutiny for surrogacy, for ag sperm purchasing and all of this, the way there is for foster care. in the way there is for adoption. And so children pay the price. In this case, the judge granted their request, but he also issued an opinion suggesting that surrogacy itself may be unconstitutional. Judge Marlon Weiss argued that if unborn children are legally entitled to personhood,

Starting point is 00:31:09 then they cannot legally be part of a contractual arrangement that treats them as property. In November, Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer moved to intervene shortly after the child's birth. the Attorney General's office argues that surrogacy resembles slavery violates the 13th Amendment and should therefore be declared unconstitutional. If you read the 13th Amendment, it says neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except this a punishment for crime, wherever the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any subject in their jurisdiction. Section 2, Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. A.G. Youthmeyer posted on X. Today, registered sex offenders and foreigners, including Chinese nationals, by thousands of babies from

Starting point is 00:31:54 U.S. surrogacy companies, true, this modern day slavery is morally wrong, endangers children, and threatens national security. It must be stopped. So the dispute is now before Florida's Fourth Circuit Court of Appeal. The child has remained with the two men since birth and is likely to be removed from their care. Because Uthmeyer's arguments are based on the personhood of the unborn, If he gets the court to agree with him, it could affect areas beyond surrogacy such as IVF, such as abortion. All right. So there's a custody battle going on here. I saw some couple the other day.

Starting point is 00:32:32 Actually, this person randomly messaged me angry about something that I said about someone else talking about. You'll remember, I think I talked about this on the show. Maybe I just posted about it on Instagram. This man was talking on a podcast. Gay man, he had procured his child via surrogacy, and he was. crying, talking about how he had robbed his child of a mother. This guy had had a great mother, now this child won't have a mother. It's like, yes, light bulb goes off. That is a good revelation to have. It's still very sad, but it's a good revelation. You are intentionally robbing a child

Starting point is 00:33:01 of a mother when you are two men purchasing a child through surrogacy. That is exactly what happens. Well, this person randomly messaged me, calls me all these nasty names, is absolutely vile, you know, tells me I'm a terrible person for saying that children have a right to a mom and a dad. surrogacy is unethical, especially when you are intentionally taking a child away from their genetic mom or dad, intentionally creating them to take them away from their genetic mom or dad. And I looked at this person's profile, lots of followers, and has been going around the UK talking about all of the unfair regulations that the UK has, that the U.S. does not have in the background checks and the home searches and all of that of the people who procure a child through

Starting point is 00:33:45 surrogacy. And so he is trying to deregulate it. He is trying to take away those safeguards. And so it's not even just a matter of, hey, we should have a right to be able to have this child. It's like we want it to be as easy as possible. We don't want children who are procured via surrogacy to even have any government safeguards or regulations in place. That's the direction that it's going. I am so glad that there are some people in the United States like this judge and like this AG who are waking.

Starting point is 00:34:16 up and who are calling it what it is because it is akin to slavery. Like if we genuinely believe that the unborn are human beings, it follows that buying and selling them as slavery. And that is what is happening during surrogacy, especially when it is the surrogacy that is by two men, because you have to purchase the eggs of one woman and rent the womb of another woman. And so you are purchasing half of the DNA of that child from the genetic mother. And even in the case where you have biological parents that are using a surrogate for whatever reason, you are still taking that child away from the only body, the only heartbeat, the only smell, the only home that that child ever has.

Starting point is 00:35:05 And it's different than adoption because adoption redeems an already broken situation, whereas surrogacy, sperm selling, egg selling, that creates the broken situation intentionally. children no matter their age should not be bought and sold as commodities the bible describes children as a gift or a heritage from the lord not a right psalm 1 27 3 i think we believe some people that because babies are great and having kids is great that you should be able to get them no matter the cost even if you have to go through eugenics via IVF even if you have to take them away from their genetic mom or dad via sperm and egg selling even if you have to come modify the body of a woman by renting her womb. Because you want a child, you should be able to

Starting point is 00:35:51 get a child. But you don't have a right to a child no matter the cost. That is the slavery mentality. Oh, because you want a human being, you can get a human being no matter what. And as long as you can pay, then that's fine. No, I'm sorry. I mean, yes, wanting children is beautiful. And I think it's a good desire to have, but it's not an ins justify the means desire. Adoption is also a beautiful option. I'm not saying it's without its corruption in every single way. Of course, that process can be corrupted. But again, that in general redeems an already broken situation rather than creates the broken

Starting point is 00:36:31 situation from conception. Psalm 127.3 says, behold, children are a heritage from the Lord. The fruit of the womb a reward, not a right. People are making billions of dollars buying and selling children through surrogacy. Again, so often without. any guardrails whatsoever. The surrogacy market has expanded as a staggering pace growing from less than $10 billion in 2020 to more than $30 billion this year. So if you want to know why there's just not a whole lot of political will to do something about this, one, it, you know, it puts you in

Starting point is 00:37:04 jeopardy with the LGBTQ caucus and no one wants to have that group, you know, with their site set on them, especially now as more of them are identifying as politically independent and Republican. You're going to have a lot of people in the center and on the right just not want to touch that. And it's sad that child production tends to come second to adult wants. That's a disordered society. We're never going to get anywhere with that. Projections suggest that it could surpass $100 billion to the next five years. I mean, that is a form of child slavery.

Starting point is 00:37:40 It's just, it is. It's a form of trafficking. I'm not saying all of those children will literally after. birth be harmed or be trafficked or be abused in some way, but it is a way of commodifying women's bodies and children. It is. It is a way of saying, I don't care what you have to go through. I want this child. We had a woman named Brittany on a couple of years ago now, and she was carrying a surrogacy baby for a gay couple. She was then diagnosed with cancer when she was about 20 or so weeks pregnant and the couple urged her to abort her child and she didn't want to have an abortion.

Starting point is 00:38:21 Actually, the doctors told her, you know, it's okay if you just deliver early. You can deliver early around, you know, I think it was maybe 28 weeks and we can treat you and give you the chemotherapy that you need after that. And then we can, you know, do our best to help this baby survive after the age of viability. And the men said no. The men said, we don't. We don't. We don't don't want a child who is going to be premature. And it was a very complicated story. She did end up giving birth and the child died. She did end up, you know, having chemotherapy. But the dads, one of whom was biologically related to this baby, didn't even show up at the hospital, not to check on her, not to hold the baby. The baby died in the arms of the family member

Starting point is 00:39:06 of the woman, the surrogate who was giving birth. I'm telling you that kind of story is so common. many times in these surrogacy contracts, these women are obligated to say they will get an abortion if the intended parents want an abortion. I think that happens far more often than we realize these babies have no rights. So I don't think that you can be pro-life and pro-surrogacy because you are basically saying, yeah, babies have rights, but only after they're born. That's the same argument as abortion. We're just talking about a different kind of harm. And so for the sake of kids, like we need to be speaking up about this. I praise the Lord, that relatable through the power of the Holy Spirit has changed people's

Starting point is 00:39:49 minds on this. And, you know, people like Katie Fouse have been working on this for so long. And I'm so, so thankful for that. We got a lot of work to do here in the United States, though. I do appreciate someone like Nancy Mace. You know, she's a little bit all over the place. But she did introduce a bill to ban register. sex offenders from obtaining children through surrogacy arrangements. I mean, how sad is that that

Starting point is 00:40:14 that's something that we even need to do, like need to discuss? You know, she's also been pro-LGB advocate. I mean, when you say that two men can get married, then why? If they can get married and they constitute, you know, basically a husband and a wife, and they are just as married as anyone else. Like, what moral case can you make that two men cannot procure a child through any means that they want to? You don't really have a moral case for it. And last year, you're saying, well, two men aren't the same as a man and a woman, in which case, why did we redefine marriage in the first place? Like, the slippery slope is undefeated. But I do appreciate this. This is a different thing than LGBTQ. And I do appreciate that she wants a ban-registered sex

Starting point is 00:40:59 offenders from obtaining children through surrogacy arrangements. Duh. Duh. That should be the biggest duh ever. And so I appreciate that. Continue to pray for justice here. Thank you to A.G. Uthmeyer for speaking the truth on this and for that judge for speaking the truth on this because it's absolutely true. We should also at the very least ban people, anyone who lives in any other country from using American surrogates. And to claim birthright citizenship based on that, are you joking? Like you're not a great country. You're not America first if you believe in things like that. but the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And it is very difficult once something is making a lot of money to break it down.

Starting point is 00:41:40 But that's what Christians are best at. Speaking to corruption, that hurts children and doing something about it. All right. Let me read our next sponsor. And then we've got some lifestyle pitter pattern. Okay, let me pause and tell you about voice of the martyrs. I want to share something with you that really puts our conversations about courage

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Starting point is 00:43:35 perspective when we found out that I was pregnant with our first daughter. My husband and I are parents of three girls. We have so much fun as girl parents. We enjoy it so much. We also have nine nephews. And so while we don't have experience yet of parenting boys, we do have ample opportunity to assess the differences in raising sons and raising daughters. And how I like to summarize the differences is this, is that raising girls is relationship management and raising boys is injury management. Both girls and boys break things. Boys break bones. They break furniture. They break toys. They break each other. And girls break hearts. Their heart gets broken and they break others' hearts as well. And when girls and boys are small, these broken things are frequent, but they're insignificant in the

Starting point is 00:44:25 grand scheme of things. So when you're dealing with a toddler girl, heartbreak happens when their sister won't take off their favorite princess shoes. I mean, it's immediate tier so much emotion. And with boys, they'll break their car by throwing it over the balcony. And then when kids are a little older, the brakes get less frequent, but they get more significant. So for girls, by the time they hit kindergarten, their relationship management expands from family relationships to friendships. And then with that comes exclusion and misunderstandings and miscommunications and hurt feelings and a desire to fit in and to be liked comparison. And your six-year-old may come home from school and cry about a friend who wouldn't let her play tag at recess, which is a small heartbreak, but bigger than the ones that she experienced at three.

Starting point is 00:45:12 And for boys, it's no longer a broken toy car. It's a broken arm from wrestling or a broken window from baseball, insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but bigger than the breaks that he experienced as a toddler. And then the pattern just seems to continue. The older girls get as they grow into teenagers and young women, as I remember, the harder relationships, the friendships, and sometimes the dating relationships can be complicated. Things become more complex. The stakes get higher for boys, too. The sports get tougher. The remote car becomes a real pickup truck.

Starting point is 00:45:47 And so the risk for true danger gets higher. It increases. And something I've been thinking about a lot lately. is how we help our kids navigate brokenness when they're little. Broken hearts, broken bones, broken objects, I think can really impact how they navigate brokenness when they're big. Modeling reconciliation and restoration and forgiveness, the understanding of cause and effect, consequences, choosing good company, compassion.

Starting point is 00:46:17 There is also a balance that I think we as parents are tasked with that I have not perfectly mastered. And that is in preventing the breaking and also allowing the breaking because there are lessons to be learned in both directions. We cannot always prevent injury, whether it's relational injury or physical injury. And we actually shouldn't. We don't want our kids just to be safe. I remember reading this from Jordan Peterson a long time ago when I was pregnant and I didn't like it then, but I've learned how true it is, is that you don't just want your kids to be safe. We also want them to be safe. We also want them to be. strong. And strength builds through the exercise of muscles, which requires strain and pain. And the same is true of life.

Starting point is 00:47:01 And at the same time, we don't want them to have to learn from all of their own mistakes. We want them to be able to be able to apply our wisdom and to avoid painful mistakes. You see a lot of that in proverbs. Like, listen to me. This road is not going to lead you in a good direction. You don't need to try it. Just I'm telling you now here are the consequences. And so, we want to model that proverbs like wisdom as well. But also there is value in learning from the mistakes that you make. And to me, when they're young and the stakes are low, that is a really good time to, within reason, allow the little heartbreaks to happen, the little toy breaks to happen, to help them navigate those emotions and those incidents and to teach them cause and effect. because all of that is a foundation for either avoiding or dealing with the broken things later on.

Starting point is 00:47:54 I mean, that is life. Something will get broken. And on the girl's side of things, one thing that my mom did so well was never dismissing my hurt feelings or when I was in high school my feelings for a crush I had and all that came with that. She always took my emotion seriously. And she also offered perspective. So she wasn't dismissive, but she also didn't match my. level of drama in her reaction, which also would have been unproductive. She comforted me, which is what we're all seeking when we go to our moms. But she also gave me the perspective that this is not going to be the biggest thing that happens in life. And I think it's really important for us to do that, even when our boys and girls are little, avoiding being dismissive

Starting point is 00:48:38 or ignoring the pain or whatever happened without meeting them at their emotional level. my oldest and I have been discussing this term, this idea of bittersweet. When you feel happy and sad at the same time, that's how I've described it for her. That's how she feels about her school year ending. It's hard. It's hard to feel both. That's a lot of emotion. And like when they're learning to regulate her emotion, she said something the other day,

Starting point is 00:49:05 I feel like I'm going to cry, but I don't want to. Like they'll break your own heart. When they get to the age of like, oh my gosh, you're not a little, little kid. anymore. You're not a baby. You're not a toddler. You're learning how to express the difficulty of self-control and managing emotions. Not that it's bad to cry, but having that conflicting feeling of feeling sad, but not wanting to let it out in the moment that we've all felt, being able to articulate that. I mean, just as a parent, it's such an opportunity for us to be able to help them give words to that. When you feel all of the things when you're six,

Starting point is 00:49:42 like you're excited for summer but you're sad that you won't see your friends all the time. It would be really easy for us as adults to be like, it's fine. Like it's kindergarten. We're going to have so many fun things to do this summer. But really, I want to acknowledge that, yes, it is okay to be sad and to miss your friends. That just means that you love your friends. And at the same time, we're going to have a blast this summer. So it truly is bittersweet.

Starting point is 00:50:09 It's a little heartbreak. It's a big emotion. and I just find that it's a really good opportunity for us as parents to walk with our kids through these moments to help them gain perspective. It's also just a lesson in emotional regulation ourselves. It's also a lesson in pointing them to the Lord, pointing ourselves to the Lord who has good plans for us and who is our comfort when we need him. And that's just something that I think I would have loved to hear when I was, when I was just starting out being a mom, just the anticipation of all of that. If you are a girl, mom, the emotions start way early.

Starting point is 00:50:50 If you have multiple girls, the emotions and relationship, friendship stuff happens way earlier than you think. I was reading some of my old diaries, which I don't, I don't recommend if you like respect yourself and you want to continue to respect yourself. Don't read your diary from when you're 11 years old. I was reading it out loud to my husband because it was just so. so ridiculous. He was like, so many emotions. You were 11. How did you feel all of these things? And this was before social media. I didn't even have access to what other people were saying and feeling.

Starting point is 00:51:23 So it wasn't even a social contagion. I'm just like this preteen girl, like thinking so many things about my parents' rules and leaving church camp and this friend who said something rude to me at church. And I'm like, you know what, Lauren, as hard as I thought these things were, when I was a preteen and a teenager, one, I had a good mom, like I said, who walked me through all of those things. But two, you were preparing me to be a girl mom. Like I feel, because of all of those things, very equipped, of course, with the Lord's help to help my girls navigate all of those emotions, but it starts early. And I don't have to tell you if you were a boy mom or a boy parent, that the injuries and the energy and all of that good stuff, like God made all of that stuff

Starting point is 00:52:04 in boys to be good and harnessed for good and that aggression can be harnessed for good. All of that starts really early too. And I can't say, whether one is easier than the other. I certainly wouldn't say whether one is better than the other. I think God gives us exactly what we need for the kids that we have injury management and relationship management. Breaking in either direction and our job is to help them with that brokenness and to navigate it in a godly way. All right, just a little bit more. Let me pause. Tell you about our last sponsor for the day. And that is Concerned Women for America. This is the largest women's Christian public policy organization. They recently released her report showing that 41% of Netflix's G-rated and children-friendly

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