Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1404 | The “Cornell 7” Men Have Spoken—I Couldn’t Believe What They Said

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

Today Allie addresses the Cornell 7 story, in which a “Jane Doe” has accused seven men of sexually assaulting her in 2024 at a fraternity house at Cornell University. This story has caused chaos and confusion online, with many on social media coming to a verdict that has yet to be proven. Allie explains what exactly happened and looks at what many public figures and celebrities are saying about the case and how they are making strong stands based on first-glance reactions and not evidence. Do you have a question for Allie? Leave a voicemail at 844-755-5252 Share the Arrows 2026 is on October 10 in Dallas, Texas! Tickets are on sale now at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sharethearrows.com⁠⁠⁠Share the Arrows is sponsored by:A'del Natural Cosmetics: AdelNaturalCosmetics.comRange Leather: RangeLeather.com/ALLIEWe Heart Nutrition: WeHeartNutrition.com–Time Codes00:00 Intro00:48 Days Away From STA2:40 Nothing is a Surprise to God5:28 WARNING8:40 The Cornell Seven Story13:36 The Timeline23:13 Variation in Jane Doe’s Testimonies25:19 Looking at the Texts29:21 Consent and Conflicting Reports34:08 The Men Have Not Been Charged?38:20 Celebrity Narratives25:33 “I am Jane Doe”47:32 The Biblical Perspective–Today's Sponsors:World Watch News | Visit https://worldwatch.news/allie or use promo code ALLIE to start your free trial today.Fellowship Home Lenders | Start your application at Fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie, and right now you’ll get an additional $500 back at closing!A’Del Cosmetics | Visit https://AdelNaturalCosmetics.com and enter promo code RELATABLE for 20% off.Crowd Health | Join CrowdHealth to get started today for $99 a month for your first three months using code ALLIE at joincrowdhealth.com.Preborn | To donate, dial pound 250 & say the keyword BABY or donate securely at PREBORN.COM/ALLIE. Shopify | If you’re ready to launch your business before Black Friday, go to SHOPIFY.COM/allie to start your free trial.Episodes You May Like:'Death of the Pastor’s Wife': Everyone’s Getting This Wrong About JP Miller | Ep 1401 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVqH0rz_ebE 3 Reasons Lindsay Clancy Is Absolutely Guilty | Ep 1391 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAPbAS2GkEc Tyler Robinson Hearing: What the Internet Doesn’t Realize | Ep 1370 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jSZPlC8d7A  ---► Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠► Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": https://alliebethstuckey.com/book► Subscribe to the podcast:iTunes: https://apple.co/2UVssnPSpotify: https://spoti.fi/2FwkXxj► Connect with Allie on social media: https://twitter.com/conservmillenhttps://www.instagram.com/alliebstuckey/https://facebook.com/allieBlazeTV/► "Relatable" merchandise — use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

It is not necessary to compromise on the truth in order to be compassionate unless your motive for showing your compassion is just a virtue signal. But if it's actually to speak the truth in love, to show true godly compassion, then you have to be willing to be unpopular, to ask unpopular questions and take a step back and say, I want to know what really happened. I'm not saying I know everything that went down, but neither do you, neither does Florence Pugh, neither does AOC. We don't know everything that went down and I am not going to automatically say that Jane Doe is correct and some of these men who have contrary stories are not. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Worldwatch. Visit worldwatch.com.com.com slash alley. Start your 30 day free trial today

so that you and your kids can know what is going on in the world from a biblical perspective. Worldwatch. News slash Alley. Hey y'all. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. This is it the week of Share the Arrows. As you all can imagine, it is crunch time for us over here. That is largely what we are focused on as well as the big announcement that we are making a Share the Arrow, something that we are launching into the world that we have been working on. Just like this conference is for women, the thing that we are announcing is also just for women, the core of the relatable audience. And I am so excited for you to see it, for you to be a part of it. If you haven't already gotten your tickets to share the

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today's very important story. And that is God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch. Nothing surprises him. Nothing throws him off. Nothing takes him aback. He is never looking down and wondering what the heck is going on, whether it's the tragic story, the dark story that we're talking about today, whether it's something that's gone on in your own life and your child's life. It's a challenge or an obstacle that you're facing, a tragedy that you are going through, a sin that you are repenting of, or whether you're looking at the news or you're looking at what's going on in the world and you see so much sadness in chaos and confusion and decay, all of these are just indications that God is working out his plan of redemption,

and one day he is going to make all things right. That creation is groaning in its waiting for the return of our king to make all things new, to do away with evil and oppression and injustice and degeneracy and chaos and confusion forever and ever in all of us long for that day. When people ask us, why do things like this happen, like the subject that we're talking about today or these horrible things that befall innocent people, children, why do these things happen?

We don't always have the answer for every individual example of suffering and tragedy and injustice, but we do know that we serve a God who's not doing nothing, that the Bible doesn't hide the fact that life is going to be hard, that there are a lot of confusing, very difficult things, that people endure, that suffering happens. We see it from the beginning of the Old Testament, almost the very beginning of the Old Testament, and almost all the way till the end, where finally we have the marriage supper

of the Lamb and things are made right. Things are as they were always supposed to be. God's eternal plan of redemption is working all of that out. He is seeking and saving the lost. He is advancing the cause of righteousness. is he is increasing his kingdom, the sheep know his voice and are following him. We can trust in all of that, that we are a part of that, just as his children. We do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God,

as we hope for our future glory one day that we know is guaranteed in Christ. So that's really good news. I always like to start every week with that. If you're new here, that is how we start every Monday with that good news. because no matter what we're talking about, no matter what's going on, personal, political, professional, that is the best news. That is the indication of God's grace and goodness. So we never get to ask, why me? Why me? Why is this hard thing happening? Yes, why me in the sense that why did God love us so much to send his own son to die for us so that we wouldn't perish but have eternal life?

Like, that's the why me that we should really be asking and we should just thank God for his grace in that. All right. So I start out that way. And then I also want to just give a warning to you. And I'm only going to give one warning at the very top. This is my trigger warning. As we bask in the light of the glory of the gospel and the hope that we have in Christ, we also remember that we live in this fallen world. And sometimes the things that happen in this fallen world are very, very dark.

And we see Satan at work, who Ephesians 2 calls the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. And we look at the dark things that happen. And we say, gosh, Satan really hates us. He hates our bodies. He hates goodness. He hates love. He hates sex in the context of marriage. He hates purity. He hates obedience to God. He hates human beings and he will do anything he possibly can to tempt us to degradation and to all different kinds of behavior that is hurtful to others and displeasing to God. And we shouldn't wallow in the reality of sin and darkness and decay,

but sometimes we have to look at it. And the reason we have to look at it. And the reason we have to look at it is so that we can discern between good and evil and we can speak truth to the lies that exist and also say, okay, yes, that led to death and destruction and awful things. There is a better way. And Christians have to be willing sometimes to look straight into the darkness, to call it for what it is, and then to show people, hey, there's a better way over here. Here's why something like this happens. Here's the truth of what happened.

And here's a better way. So as we talk about this story about the Cornell 7, that's what we are going to get to at the end. But first, we've got some work to do. I have to untangle this story because as with so many things, y'all, that go viral online, not everything that you're hearing and in fact, most of what you're hearing is fully true. You're seeing a lot of half-truths out there. People take one part and they push an entire narrative. They put their entire ideology behind it and they construct something that is,

is not entirely accurate. And I think, especially when we're talking about things like this, things that are so sensitive that we need to care about accuracy. It seems like some people think that caring about accuracy is like lacking compassion or lacking love or lacking a desire for justice. I remember that very much in 2020 when people were pushing all kinds of things of like white people or hunting black people and the police officers are just systemically killing black people. And people like me would be like, no, actually, that's not

statistically true. Here's what the data really says. Here's what the logic says about, you know, what you're proposing and people would accuse me, lacking empathy, lacking compassion, but actually turning the lights on for someone who mistakenly thinks something is lurking in the corner is one of the most loving things that you can do. That's not to say in the story, we're not going to see a whole lot of bad behavior because we are. But the layer, of the story are a little bit more complex, the complicity, the responsibility of the individuals of the story is more complex and more intricate than what you may be seeing online. So let me back up a little bit and just tell you what's going on. So people you've probably

seen are enraged about what you're hearing as the Cornell 7. This is the Cornell 7 story in which a Jane Doe, so an anonymous female, has accused seven men of sexually assaulting her on October 19th, 2024. So almost two years ago now at a Cornell University fraternity house. People are sharing the names and the photos of the seven men who have been accused with the goal, as we will see explicitly of ruining their lives, even though these men have not yet been charged with a crime. Now, that's the problem that a lot of people have. They are saying, why have these men not been charged with the crime based on the seriousness and the severity of these accusations.

The assumption is, well, this is just an old boys club. And because these are young white men who are from probably affluent families that go to this Ivy League university, that they have been protected from accountability and protected from responsibility. And now people online, the TikTok justice system, is looking to ensure that they receive justice and that they pay for their crimes. The University Newspapers editorial board revealed these boys' identity or these young men's identity on September 21st.

Two of them have been fired from their jobs since that revelation. The details in this case involve major discrepancies to the point where you have to question the complete validity of this woman referred to as Jane Doe's testimony. and the lack of responsibility that others are putting on her and that she is taking for her own role in this situation. As we will see, she admitted to willingly participating in very degrading sexual acts that she only later said, maybe that wasn't really consensual. So we're going to look at what Cornell and the district attorney's office knew about the case in 2024, as well as

the latest evidence that's come to light this week to show that, like with Lindsay Clancy, social media users are attempting to play judge, jury, executioner over a legal case and pushing this view that is simply not true that women are unconditionally the victim. Now, I am not saying yet whether this woman was victimized in any way at any time. I'm going to relay the facts to you and the admissions to you as they have come out, and then I will give you kind of my conclusion and my sentiment about everything and the lessons I think that we should draw. But what I just want to say at the top is what we have to do in these kind of cases, whether it is accusations against ICE officers,

or whether it is the story of Lindsay Clancy, or whether it is accusations toward police officers and their interactions with citizens, especially black citizens. Like, we have to slow our role. We have to slow our role because the underlying assumption is that the white male is always responsible, that he is always the one who committed the wrong act. And most people do not wait for the facts before jumping to that conclusion because they want to be able to signal that they are virtuous and compassionate online. But that is partiality. It's not compassion. That is actually perpetuating in some cases, injustice or at least possibly perpetuating injustice and lies for the sake of your own reputation

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People are calling the incident a gang rape that lasted for hours after this new lawsuit claimed that the men engaged in multiple threesomes with Jane Doe and snorted ketamine off her body without her consent. I told you guys that this was going to be graphic and hard to listen to. The suit also alleges that her sorority allowed her to get intoxicated despite her being underage at the time she was 20 and that the university failed to hold the seven men accountable. This case is, as I said, going viral online due to this new lawsuit. But in 2024, she reported the incident to campus police three weeks after the night. the so-called, and I'm just saying so-called, because we'll get into some of the details here,

assault occurred, and she signed a sworn statement giving her account of what happened. Now, her original statement did not say that she was unable to consent. Even so, this is why people are so angry about this story. She gave this signed statement, and yet it seems that law enforcement did not do anything. They didn't arrest anyone. They didn't charge any of the men. and the university apparently didn't respond. And so that is why she is now filing the civil suit in 2026.

And people are saying this is a total miscarriage of justice. And this is just another example of the patriarchy winning. And these female victims not having their voices heard. After reviewing her statement, the district attorney's office in 2024 decided not to bring any charges to anyone involved. Tompkins County District Attorney Matthew Van Houghton said prosecutors initially declined to move forward because Jane Doe's statements to authorities did not provide enough evidence under New York law to prove a lack of consent. However, he announced on September 28th the lawsuit on September 16th from September 16th has prompted his office to reopen the case. Now, whether or not it was the lawsuit or it was the lawsuit, or it was the social media uproar that prompted them to reopen the case we don't know. Van Houten told ABC news that prosecutors will determine whether new evidence has emerged since November 2024.

That could change their original assessment and support a finding of criminal conduct. The evidence will be presented to a grand jury, which will hear testimony and decide whether charges should be brought against the defendants, those seven men. The DA estimates it'll take 45 days to officially convene the grand jury based on this timeline proceedings would begin around mid-November. Now, Democrat governor of New York, Kathy Hockel, announced Thursday that she has appointed New York Attorney General Letitia James as the special prosecutor for this case. Now, Lettisha James is not usually a friend of impartial justice. Here's up for. So let me just say my heart goes out to the victim, the survivor.

And I stand with her and all individuals who unfortunately have been the victims of sexual assault. We look forward to the outcome and to ensure that, in fact, justice is serving. There's accountability for the survivor. Okay. So the assumption there is that these mendent, that they committed this awful crime, that they raped this woman while she was completely intoxicated and unable to consent. On Friday morning, Hokel called for a change, for a change to, New York sexual assault law. She said if someone is too intoxicated to consent,

it should not matter whether they chose to use the drugs or alcohol initially. Voluntary intoxication is not a license for sexual assault or gang grape period. And of course, I don't believe that voluntary intoxication is a license for assault. Of course not. The question is, is that actually what happened? In pursuit of justice,

it is important, necessary to get the details, right? There is no justice without truth. So let's look back at what Jane Doe was saying in 2024 when these alleged assault happened to understand why the seven defendants in the lawsuit weren't actually charged.

Jane Doe went to report to the alleged assault that occurred on October 19th, 2024 to the campus police. The full 120-page transcript of everything she said in the interview is not publicly available, nor is the full six-page summary written by the campus investigator and signed by Jane Doe. Only a partial version of the statement has been publicly released by the district attorney's office. Outlets like ABC, CBS, New York Times, who have obtained these two documents, or have obtained these two documents. And here is what they are reporting.

The men and Jane Doe's statement are referred to as mail with a number assigned to them. Okay, so mail one through seven. That's why I'm saying that because they're trying to keep this anonymous. So just, you'll want to pay close attention. It might be a little bit confusing at times, but pay close attention to male number one, number two, et cetera. And of course, Jane Doe is, again, the anonymous woman who is alleging this happened. So according to these outlets who were able to obtain these interviews in some of the investigative materials, Jane Doe went to the Kai Phi fraternity house to meet her friend,

male number one, and agreed to his proposition of a threesome that night, October 19th, quote, due to how attracted she was to one of the men and in part because of her, quote, drunken curiousness. She also reportedly engaged in another threesome with male number two, as well as a third man who entered the room. The statement gives no indication of her refusing this, but she said she repeatedly refused other sexual acts, including a foursome, allegedly proposed by male number one. As time went on, men were in and out of that room, reportedly, due to a Snapchat, as we are showing here, sent to the fraternity's members saying there was quote, free sex available and inviting them to join. At one point, the fraternity brothers in the room,

males four, five, six, and seven asked if they could snort ketamine, some people pronounce it, ketamine either way, off of her body, to which she said, sure. She reportedly didn't have sex at any point with males number five through seven. Male number seven started kissing her. but she backed a way to stop him, reportedly. Mail number three, who had left the room, returned with another male not named in the lawsuit, so not allegedly involved in any of this. And they told the group to stop. They said, that's enough. Don't do this anymore. The drug you stopped and then mail number one and number four went with Jane Doe to another room where they engaged in a third and final threesome. By this point, Jane Doe said in her statement,

I remember being totally disgusted at the situation and I felt very tired and intoxicated. I felt like I was unable to make any decision because of how intoxicated I was. Doe also described in the statement that she, quote, had become extremely uncomfortable with how this night was turning out. So my thought was, if I do key to mean again, maybe I will pass out and thinking if I passed out and the men had sex with me, they could be charged with rape. Wow, that's pretty sophisticated line of. thinking for someone who was super intoxicated. To me, that felt like coercion, she said. Also, I felt like due to my intoxication, they should have known how intoxicated I was based on how I was slurring my words, except for, of course, these young men were apparently very intoxicated too.

When she woke up at 10 a.m., she got a ride home from mail number one. The transcript of the interview when she was first reporting this alleged assault provides additional details. to how she saw things and then how things evolved. We'll get into that in just a second. Let me pause and tell you about Adele Natural Cosmetics. As you guys know, where we spend our money really matters. We don't just vote in the midterms or every four years in the presidential election. We vote every day with how we spend our money.

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night, she said, I don't remember the very end of the event where I was raped. She told them, I can say with 100% confidence, I was raped. And remember, this is in an interview that she was having with the campus investigator. So district attorney Van Halton said that he never saw this transcript and that the only thing his office received initially, remember, back in 2024, was the six-page statement from the campus investigator signed by Jane Doe and the Snapchat screenshot alerted the fraternity members of the free sex available. According to CNN, Cornell said that it gave all investigative materials to the DA's office and hadn't responded to repeated requests about whether the transcripts were included.

Jane Doe did know what was detailed in the six-page statement from the interview. The transcript shows that as the investigator documented her account, he read it back to her and asked her to correct or clarify it. The transcript also shows that Jane Doe reviewed the six-page document herself on the second day of the interview and made changes where she felt they were needed. When her survivor advocate asked if Jane Doe wanted her and another advisor to look at the statement, Jane Doe reportedly says, I'm very confident about this before she signed it. But according to CBS News, their New Yorker.

investigative reporter Masa Saidi exclusively received new screenshots of tax messages from a source. We don't know the source right now. The source said they show text between the former student identified as Jane Doe and one of the defendants accused of rape in this lawsuit. So here is one of the texts. We'll go through them. Mail number two said in a tax to Jane Doe according to CBS. I just wanted to apologize for how things went down the other night. He said his memory is kind of fuzzy and that he and another man feel bad for being too intoxicated to shut it down and kick people out before it got way out of hand. The woman in the text chain replied that her memory is super clouded too and said they had

all been heavily intoxicated. She also wrote, none of the sexual stuff was illegal. She said she liked being with him and another man. That's Jane Doe. Later she suggested they smoke together again, but like leave out the extra five billion men and the ketamine. that other man that she's referring to is male number one. So mail number one and mail number two,

she says she liked. She wants to do it again, but like not the other guys and not the key to Maine. So that text from mail number two was on October 21st, 2024, just a few days after the incident. And then on October 24th, 2024,

this is according to the New York Times, 23rd, rather, Jane Doe texted mail number one, one bro, she wrote. Everyone knows. She said that this incident was ruining my life temporarily and that her reputation had been destroyed. And then from ABC, Jane Doe texted the man later identified by the Tompkins County District Attorney's Office as male number one. Everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and something and blank is changing and stuff. And stuff like this is going to become more common. I'm also really open-minded, though. I love you, King. Okay, so that is Jane Doe talking to

mail number one. During this time, according to the New York Times, at Kai Phi, the fraternity was preparing for Halloween party, and Jane Doe was eager to attend. Okay, so she was eager to attend after she says she was actually assaulted. Text messages included in the investigation show Mr. Mail number one, assuring Jane Doe that he and other fraternity, members wanted her to be there. Kai Fi is your house, he says, and you are welcome here, relaying the views of the fraternity's president who was not among those accused of sexual assault. She says, thank you. I really appreciate that in a text. Heart, I'll bring my Sigs tomorrow. But then Jane Doe received a phone call from Kai Fai's president,

according to the text. She was disinvited from the Halloween party. He said it was for her own good. After that call, Jane Doe sent a biting text to Mr. Ingle's. I knew this was going to happen. She wrote, the woman will always get the short end of the stick. Y'all aren't my friends. Y'all are covering your butts. By November 3rd, Jane Doe appears to have concluded that she was assaulted at the October party.

She sent a text to mail number two. Let's be clear that 90% of what happened that night was not consensual. I was given more key or ketamine than I can remember, she said, and I know that I told you I felt uncomfortable, and I didn't know anyone in the room. The text continued with her telling them that only one of her memories, or that one of her only memories was doing ketamine off of his private parts. In front of everyone, she said, like a sex doll slash worker.

Four days later, on November 7th, according to the documents, Jane Doe went to an emergency room in Ithaca and requested a rape kit. Okay. So some of these texts show how she evolved in how she, um, in, in her perspective of what actually went down. Okay. What about these men who by the way are being named on social media and the New York

times, even though the accuser is not, which I just, I don't think it's right. They're still just accused at this point and she is an accuser. she is getting granted anonymity and they are not. All of, we are changing them to mail number one through seven, but a lot of these outlets are actually reporting their first and last name. So what did these young men actually say at the time? In interviews conducted during Cornell's administrative investigation, all seven fraternity members denied any wrongdoing.

The majority of them said that Jane Doe did not appear to be intoxicated. Four of the men acknowledged engaging in sexual activity with her, but stated that they had her consent, that others denied participating in any sexual encounters at all. One actually said that he was the victim of sexual misconduct because Jane Doe had performed oral sex on him when he was too incapacitated to consent. Another male, male number three,

said that Jane Doe initiated their contact without asking for his consent. Another one of the males, it's unclear which number it was. The New York Times names him said, I remember the girl saying something along the last, lines of this was normal in the medieval times. Okay. And so there are conflicting reports here according to the initial investigation by Cornell. And Cornell did do an initial investigation. Shortly after Jane Doe's report, Cornell released a public statement about the serious and

deeply disturbing allegations of drug abuse and sexual violence at the Chi Phi fraternity house. Following Jane Doe's lawsuit, Cornell has disputed her claim that it didn't adequately investigate or punish the alleged perpetrators. The fraternity closed down. That year has been barred from campus ever since. People are very angry about the fact that Cornell made these boys write essays and that was like part of their punishment. But Cornell emphasized that the essays were not the sole consequence for any of the events involved. They invest, They gathered these statements from everyone involved. They passed it off to the DA. The DA, again, decided that under New York law, it doesn't seem like this was rape. Like there was enough consent going on that this could not be considered sexual assault and gang rape. The university called the events appalling and said,

we are doing all we can to foster our culture where sexual misconduct is never tolerated. Of course, the question is, how do you define sexual misconduct? is it only consent? And what is actually consent? What is defined as consent or not? That's what happens when you have this morally relativistic culture who says basically all sex that you consent to is totally fine. None of it is misbehavior.

None of it is misconduct. Well, then you're only left with one qualification for what is right sexual behavior and what is wrong sexual behavior and that is consent. And that gets very slippery when alcohol and drugs are involved. Or when a he said, she said situation is involved. So that's where we are right now. So the question is, why weren't the men charged? Was this really a dereliction of duty?

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So why weren't these men charged? This case has been difficult to prosecute as a rape case because according to Jane Doe's own 24 statement, she willingly got drunk. And she agreed to. engage in sexual activity. I actually agree as much as I disagree with drunkenness. I agree that someone getting drunk is not a license to other people to rate them or abuse them in any way. But she wasn't rendered unconscious. She wasn't physically forced to do anything. To actually be deemed physically helpless under New York law, a person has to be unconscious or otherwise

physically unable to communicate that they don't want an act to happen and do. district attorney Van Halton said Doe's original statement did not show her being in that state. And we saw that that there was like, yeah, I knew what was going on. But then later her perspective evolved and was like, actually, I don't think it was consensual. We see in some of this New York Times reporting that it was her friends and roommates saying maybe from a good place and maybe out of care for her saying that doesn't sound good. Like that doesn't sound like it went down the way you wanted it to go down. But who knows if what they are saying is actually based on fact, or if out of Jane Doe's own embarrassment and shame,

how she started to tell the story changed. I don't know that. You don't know that. The prosecutors don't know that. And definitely people on social media don't know that. And yet, people are acting like they do. In a recent statement, Van Houton summarized what Doe told Cornell University police at the time and noted that it differed from her new civil lawsuit,

which again was filed on September 16th of this year. He said her sworn November 24 statement did not. not claimed that she was drugged against her will or gang raped like the civil suit claims. Instead, he said it described her participation in the drug use and sexual activity as voluntary conscious and consensual, which I think matches to the text that have been released to CBS and these other outlets. Jane Doe's attorney, Thomas Gufra, I don't know how to, Jufra, Jifra, I don't know how to pronounce his last name, explained the discrepancy in her different accounts by saying

that she was traumatized now that not able to function or accept the horror of what had happened in the days after the events. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's not true. I don't know. But social media has responded as if they know exactly what went down, have completely ignored any of these boys' statements, who, some of whom have said, actually was me who didn't get to consent to something. Actually, it was too intoxicated. Some of whom said, no, I didn't participate in all. And then the other saying, yeah, I did participate, but it was consensual. In this case, it is her word against these boys. And we automatically are to believe if you just follow social media, her word, because she is the accuser.

The court of public opinion's judgment for the defendant in the lawsuit has been swift. Their names and their faces are all over the internet. It's currently filled with posts like this viral one, users sharing the photos and the names of the seven accused men. This person, Daisy, someone told me I shouldn't help spread pictures of the Cornell seven guys because it might destroy. their lives. Sweetie, that's what I'm counting on. And remember, they got these. They got their names. They got their pictures because of the campus newspaper, their original reporting. So it's not like they're revealing new information in some of these cases. They're just circulating their names, circulating their faces in an effort to try to get them accountability and punishment that a lot of

these people didn't feel that they got. There was also a man who was accidentally served in the suit. He never actually attended Cornell, but he had the same name as one of the defendants. But his identity, who he is, this guy who was wrongly served this lawsuit, has gone all over social media. And as a result, he's been terrorized. He's been threatened. He has been harassed, according to his mother. Then you have celebrities who are pushing one particular side of story and one particular narrative. You have Florence Pugh. She says, a drugged gang rape takes action and conversations. It immediately makes me wonder. Had it been in the works for a while, was the damage of this poor woman's body thought about over and over before? Every single person

who knew or heard about this happening should be looked at with serious concern. There is evil as those planning it, et cetera, et cetera. And then Josh, Josh Gad, I only know that name from Frozen. When we start setting a precedent that our girls and women can be brutally raped, and the resulting disciplinary action is to hand out essays about why it was wrong to brutally violate an innocent girl. We have lost our minds. And then he goes on and on, enough. Jamila Jamil, who I think was an actress and also a feminist.

I think the likes of the Cornell 7 shouldn't be allowed penises anymore. They use them as weapons, so now they have to get confiscated. Okay, then she has emojis showing what she would like to happen. And then, of course, we have AOC weighing in. Here she is, saw one. Seven men drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine.

They then posted to a group chat that she was incapacitated. And seven men took to her. turns gang raping her for seven hours. We actually don't have an indication that that is true. Like that's not what seems to be reported by any of these outlets. It doesn't even seem to be exactly what she alleges happened either originally or later. Now, she does change.

She does change whether she believes she was consenting or how much of the time and how long and how much she actually wanted to do, who she liked, didn't like. Some of that absolutely did change. but it doesn't even seem like when she is filing this on September 16th that her description of the events match exactly what AOC just said. There's always exaggeration in order to fit a particular narrative, which I just find really troubling when it comes to real people's lives and justice. The truth is, we still need more details.

We still need answers before we can determine if this was a miscarriage of justice, if this was some kind of cover-up, such as, why did the district attorney's office never apparently received the full 120 page transcript of the investigation and all of the interviews from Cornell's campus police? I would also love to know, like, is that normal? Did the district attorney's office ask for that and they didn't get it? Or was this just standard procedure? But remember, Jane Doe did sign off on the six page summary and said that she was confident

in that summary that fully represented what happened. And she was asked multiple times. again, she even had a sexual assault advocate who was saying, like, do you want me to look over this? And so the original summary of what happened from 2024 that was given to the DA's office in which they said there's just not enough here to say that she didn't consent to this or that there wasn't consent involved here, she signed off on that. Question, why was Jane Doe's claim that she was 100% sure that she was raped left out of that six page statement that she signed?

that seems to have come later. What other key details are missing? Is there anything to what any of the boys said what these men said in this investigation, that they were also lacking consent, that they were intoxicated, that she didn't seem intoxicated, that she seemed to have consented.

All of these things, all of these stipulations and questions, I guess, are not interesting to Letitia James. They're not interesting to Governor Hocel. They're not interesting to AOC. They're not interesting to Florence Pugh or Josh Gadd or any of these celebrities online and any of the people that I'm following, I see you, who are just repeating the talking points over and over again about what happened to this girl.

It is not necessary to compromise on the truth in order to be compassionate unless your motive for showing your compassion is just a virtue signal. But if it's actually to speak the truth in love, to show true godly compassion, then you have to be willing to be unpopular, to ask unpopular questions, to not be the very first to post, oh my goodness, this is exactly what happened and this is injustice, and take a step back and say, I want to know what really happens. I'll tell you, I've gotten a ton, a ton, a ton of messages. Why aren't you talking about this? You talk about Lindsay Clancy. Why don't you talk about this? Like, it's some sort of gotcha. Look, this is a really big case. There are a lot of layers to it.

I guarantee will probably continue you to talk about it if we're able to because there is just so many parts of it. I'm not saying I know everything that went down, but neither do you. Neither does Florence Pugh, neither does AOC. We don't know everything that went down. And I am not going to automatically say that Jane Doe is correct. And some of these men who have contrary, uh, contrary stories are not. I don't think we know. And I don't think justice has been carried out yet in that we have not been able to fairly hear from both sides, which by the way, it's not our, they're not obligated to tell us both sides of this. This needs to be carried out in the court of law. If there is enough there for this to go to trial, by the way, originally the DA

didn't think it was. But if so, it needs to go to a court of law. And then it needs to see impartial justice and due process. That's what needs to happen. And we need to stop pretending, like we are the judge in jury based on narratives and bits of information in our preconceived notion that a woman is always right. So there are, of course, just like the Lindsay Clancy thing. It's not exactly like the Lindsay Clancy thing. I'm not saying that this woman did the same thing as Lindsay Clancy. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying in the virality of it and the virality of the opinions and how that just snowballs. We see a lot of these social media trends right now when it comes to this young woman, Jane Doe.

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She could put the kettle on after a long day, always know where your keys are, but has never made it known that she is Jane Doe. Okay. So basically Jane Doe could be anyone. Someone who experiences sexual assault could be anyone. And then here's another TikTokers take, top three. And the thing that breaks my heart the most about the Cornell rape case in Jane is that the guy that invited her to the frat house that night was her friend.

It wasn't a random man that snatched her up while she was walking through an alley. It was her friend who she trusted, who invited her out after she as a minor had been served at a bar. She was already drunk, he coerced her to doing drugs, and then he raped her, his friends raped her. He posted on his fraternity group chat for Mormon to rape her. He did drugs off of her body, he had his friends do drugs off of her body. He forced her to do drugs off his body. and they continued to do so for seven hours. Okay, she wasn't a minor.

I just want to say that. She wasn't a minor. She was under 21. She was illegally drinking. That is true. But she was 20. So I just think not that that makes this whole thing good, but again, that just goes to show you get on social media,

you go viral, you say anything. You say that one extra thing that's going to make it even worse to try to get people to react to you. And then it builds this entire story that's not even true that seven guys raped a minor, what, a 15 year old for seven hours after feeding her drugs and alcohol? That's not actually what went down. Those are not the facts that we see. Here is what I think is the biblical perspective on this. These men were not her friend. They were not her friend, even the one that was kind of nice to her male number one,

not the men that she said, yeah, I'm attracted to you. I'll bring you Sigs later. Like, let's do it again with you and him, but not these other guys. None of these men were her friend because this is not what friends do. This is not what people do who respect another human being, respect women, respect anyone. They should have helped her get a ride home. If they noticed that she was intoxicated, they shouldn't have propositioned her for group sex. She also shouldn't have participated. She shouldn't have been there. She shouldn't have been doing drugs. She shouldn't have been drinking. She shouldn't have consented to any of this. Am I saying that she is responsible for every bit of it?

Am I saying for sure that there was never a time that she couldn't consent? I don't know. Am I saying that because she said once, that is saying yes, every single time. And so there is no part of the night where she became a victim. No, I am not saying that for sure. But you can't say anything for sure either. That is the point that I am making, that it is her word against these men's word. And I will not just assume that she is correct because she's a woman.

or she is correct because she is an accuser. Because when I look at justice and how due process should work, I want to go all the way back to the Old Testament where God creates the law, the God who created justice. And I see a couple things in the principles that he puts forth when it comes to law giving and when it comes to justice. One, that there should be no partiality.

So that means I am not going to give the benefit of the doubt more to the woman or to the man, more to the poor or to the rich, more to the black or to the white. I'm not going to do that. That is partiality. That is assuming someone's innocence or guilt based on these kind of arbitrary standards. But in truth, God says, you shall judge your neighbor.

Another principle that I see in scripture is the principle of equality between the accuser and the accused when it comes to rights. That the accuser has a process by which they can follow to make their case. and accuse their neighbor, accuse someone of their community, of committing or wrong, but the accused also has rights. The accused can only be prosecuted with the, for certain crimes, with the agreement of two or three eyewitnesses. And so God doesn't say if you accuse someone or if you are accused of something,

then you are guilty. There is actually a process that has to be gone through to prove someone's guilt before doling out a punishment. and in the Old Testament, if someone accuses someone of a crime, say there was a man who accused another man of murder and it wasn't actually true. He was telling a lie. Well, the man who falsely accused the other man of murder would then be liable for the same penalty as the man he accused would have been if he had been proven guilty and that would be

execution. So false accusations carried the possibility of the death penalty in the Old Testament. that's how much God cares about impartiality. That's how much God cares about the truth. That's how much he cares about both the accused and the accuser. That is how he says that we should judge justly and righteously. And so I am not going to assume based on ideology that the woman is always right, that her tale of how everything went down, especially knowing that she was extremely intoxicated,

is 100% accurate. I just don't know. Or we don't know that she was extremely intoxicated, but she says she was extremely intoxicated. And so there's a little bit of confusion there. Like, is your word trustworthy or is it not? And how much were these men also able to consent? I'm not going to assume that they are in the wrong. They were the perpetrators just because they are men. And just because they weren't the ones who filed the report. This is what I've said, and I will say it again. People ask me, if you could change one thing overnight, like one policy, one thing that happens, like one trend or cultural brokenness, what would it be? And I said, sex outside of marriage. Sex outside

of marriage. Sexual activity outside of marriage. If that ended, think about everything that would end. Unwanted pregnancies would end. Rape would end. Pedophilia, the rape of children, sex trafficking, that would end. Infidelity, that would end. Maybe. Maybe. there would be some cases of like an unwanted surprise pregnancy, but it would be very rare that a woman would be left alone if sex only happened within the context of marriage ever, one man, one woman for life. If that was the only time that sexual activity occurred, so many of our social ills, so many broken bodies and broken hearts would be avoided. People think I'm so crazy for choosing that one of all of the social problems that we have. But,

But sex is special. Sex is different. People like to say, oh, all sin is equal, but not all sin is the same. First Corinthians 618 says this, flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body. But the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. And that's why it's tragic. That's why it's so tragic.

If I were a friend or a mentor to this young woman, you know, some people are saying, I don't feel bad for her. She chose this. Well, I don't feel bad for her. because I know 100% she's a victim of gang rape. I don't know that. But if I had this personal relationship with this girl, of course, I would feel bad for her. And I would feel sad. And I would feel sad for everyone involved because I would want to know why did you do this? Why did you make this decision? What led you there? And I know you're dealing with shame. But the best way to deal

with that is to bring it to light in the most truthful, transparent way. And then to ask God for forgiveness and he will be faithful to give it to you and to repent from sexual immorality. but you have to know that what you did was wrong, that your body has been bought with a price, that it's worth more than that, that you are made in God's image, that no pleasure that you got from those sexual interactions is ever going to satisfy you.

It is only going to make you feel broken. She knows that. Like the existence of the guilt and the shame and all of that is not the existence of some stigma or proof that she was raped. It is us being made in God's image. It's the human heart, like being able to understand that what I did was shameful. and wrong. 1 Thessalonius 4 3 through 5 for this is the will of God your sanctification,

your progressive holiness, that you abstain from sexual immorality, that each one of you know how to control his own body and holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God. And there's also a warning here about filling our bodies with things that control us. Ephesians 518, and do not get drunk with wine. for that is debauchery, but be filled with the spirit. Isn't that such an interesting juxtaposition? Do not get drunk with wine for that is debauchery, but be filled with something else. Filled with drugs and alcohol, filled with the spirit, whatever fills you controls you. Whatever fills you compels you. Whatever fills you prohibits, inhibits you in one way or another.

And of course, that's what alcohol does. That's what drugs do. But the Holy Spirit can also do that in a good way. So whatever fills you, controls you, if you're going to be filled with these substances, you will be controlled by these substances. And that doesn't remove all of your responsibility. Hebrews 13, 4, let marriage be held in honor among all and let the marriage bed be undefiled for God will judge the sexually immoral and the adulteress. Sex is a gift from God. It's a gift of pleasure and procreation that bonds a man and a woman in holy matrimony

so the two will become one flesh. It's a beautiful union. We don't believe in asceticism. We don't believe in Christianity that the body is bad, that all sexual pleasure is bad. But we believe, like all things, it is to be done in a certain context that can eliminate or at least mitigate the heartbreak and the pain that comes from sexual immorality. And so really that's, I mean, that's really what I would say. If I, if I knew this young woman, there is absolutely an absolutely an.

element of heartbreak and compassion that I have for her because she is lost. And these young men are clearly lost. And they have been convinced that temporal pleasure is going to give them satisfaction. And they are seeing that there are lots and lots of problems that come with that. But that also does not justify all of the judge and jury that we're seeing all over TikTok that are just assuming that these men are the only ones who are responsible. Remember that the thief comes only to steal, kill, kill, and destroy. And just Jesus came that we might have life and have it abundantly, John 1010. Proverbs 1412 reminds us that there is a way that seems right to man.

And maybe you could replace, this is just my interpretation, maybe you could also replace right with that seems satisfying, that seems fulfilling, that seems to be a good direction. But in its end or its end is the way to death. God's ways are better. God's ways are better. I remember people used to make fun of Mike Pence for saying that he's only going to be alone with one woman and that's his life. Mike Pence avoids these kinds of situations.

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