Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 210 | Taylor, You Need to Calm Down

Episode Date: February 7, 2020

First, we discuss Trump's SOTU speech, his acquittal in the impeachment trial, and the results of the Iowa caucus. Will the Democrats find a candidate? Then we discuss Taylor Swift's new Netflix documentary, "Miss Americana."

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey, guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Friday. I hope everyone has had a wonderful week and is excited about going into the weekend. So on Fridays, we typically do an interview. But today is going to be a little bit different. Because there was so much that went on this week, I wanted to be able to cover it in a timely manner.

and then on Monday, I am going to have an interview with a woman by the name of Doreen Virtue. Guys, probably the most important interview I have ever done. We're talking about the new age, what the new age is. She was not only a proponent of the new age. She taught the new age. She was in the new age. She was in the depths of the new age and promulgated this stuff for years of her life, had millions of followers because of what she taught in new age practices,

and then she came to the Lord. She is going to shed light on all of the ways that the new age manifests itself today and why it is so dangerous. And it's going to surprise you. It's going to give you insight. It might even offend you just a little bit, but all in love. She speaks the truth and love so well. I'm so excited for you to hear that interview. So please tune in on Monday in my conversation with Doreen.

Now, today we're going to touch on a few things. So we're going to talk about President Trump being acquitted. We're going to touch on that and Mitt Romney's vote. We will talk about the state of the union just a little bit. And Nancy Pelosi's reaction, we'll talk about the Iowa caucus and the results, at least that I have right now as I'm recording this on Thursday. And then we will talk about Taylor Swift's documentary on Netflix that you guys have been asking me to talk about for a long time. We are going to get into that. Hey, this is Steve Deast.

If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issue. issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed.

You can watch this D-Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Okay. Let's get into today's episode. So President Trump, if you didn't know this, he was impeached by the House and then it moved over to the Senate. And there was all this back and forth about this. We've talked about it.

I had an interview with Andrew Claven several weeks ago where we talked about impeachment. I did at least part of an episode on impeachment a few weeks ago when this was happened. I talked to Marsha Blackburn last week about this. And so you can go listen to that episode last Friday to give us a sense of what's going on. I also recommended a podcast called Verdict with Ted Cruz. It's Michael Knowles. It's Ted Cruz. Lindsay Graham was on there one time.

And I think that that podcast, I don't always recommend other podcasts because I want you listening to Relatable as much as possible. But verdict did a really good job and is doing a really good job of breaking down the impeachment process, why it even started in the first place, what's gone on. what the Senate has tried to do, what's been the back and forth in this whole thing. So the Senate has voted to acquit President Trump. Now, what you're going to hear from people who support President Trump is that President Trump was exonerated. So when you're acquitted, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're exonerated. President Clinton was also acquitted. That doesn't mean that he was exonerated. So President Trump still could have done something wrong in his call with Ukraine,

but he was acquitted of whatever he did. It just means that the Senate does not believe, at least the people who voted to acquit him, the senators who voted to acquit him, do not believe that what he did in the call with Ukraine qualified as a high crime or misdemeanor that solicits impeachment. Now, the one rogue Republican senator

who decided that he was going to vote to not just to remove Trump from office, so I probably need to explain. blame that just a little bit. But okay, I'll get to that in a second. It was Mitt Romney. So he was Republican Senator from Utah. He decided to vote to remove Trump from office. He's gotten a ton of backlash because of that, obviously, because of course, most Republicans support Donald Trump and most Republicans in the Senate besides him have decided that Trump did not commit a crime that solicits a removal from office. Now, impeachment and removal from office are two different things.

asked me on Instagram. Okay, was President Trump impeached or was he not impeached? So impeached doesn't actually mean that you are removed from office. It means there is going to be a somewhat of a trial in the Senate to see if what you did was worthy of removal from office. But they have decided the Senate has decided that no, what he did. Even though he will be eternally impeached, he will always be an impeached president. He will not actually be removed from office, at least not right now. Now, of course, the House is probably going to keep going and whatever strategy they have to, if they can't remove Trump from office, they're going to do whatever they can to muddy his name. I don't know how it's possible for them to go to a greater length to try to hurt President Trump. But I think that this is a political miscalculation.

Obviously, the Russian collusion thing didn't work. Obviously, the impeachment thing didn't work. And his approval ratings are really good right now. best they've ever been, which I just think is embarrassing for the Democrats, that they have tried so hard. They have fought tooth and nail since the day after he got elected to say that this is an illegitimate president, that he was helped by the Russians, that he colluded with the Russians, that everything that he has done has been impeachable. I mean, they've been talking about impeachment for so long, so long before this Ukraine call, which is why it was so laughable that they actually

considered this a solemn and sober and serious and sad and sorrowful thing like they've been saying that it is. They've been talking about impeachment far longer than this impeachment process has been going on. So they've been looking for something. And whenever someone is looking for a reason to get you out of office, it kind of takes away their credibility just a little bit. Don't you think? Don't you think? And so it's all just kind of been a political show. Now again, we can look at the call that President Trump had with the president of Ukraine. And we could say, you know, We don't like that. We don't like that he asked them to investigate Joe Biden.

But again, that doesn't necessarily. That doesn't solicit removal from office. It doesn't solicit even impeachment. We know that this is just a partisan show. We can criticize him. We can criticize. We can say we don't like his foreign policy. We don't like the call.

We think it was kind of smarmy. That's all fine. That still is not a justification for impeachment or removal from office. But Senator Mitt Romney thought differently and he cited his own convictions. He said that he is accountable to God before he's accountable to this president or accountable to this political party. And I might be, I know that I am kind of outside of the mainstream conservative thought on this. But I just don't really care. Like a lot of people are up in arms about this. Like his invitation to CPAC got revoked. There are people that are saying that he needs to

be ousted from the Republican Party and that he needs to resign. I'm just not quite. on that page. Like, I disagree with him. And I don't really buy his whole spiel that, okay, this has to do with his faith and his convictions because he's been very wishy-washy. Like he was a pretty liberal Republican governor of Massachusetts. And then he switched some of his so-called convictions. When he became a senator from Utah, he comes from a pretty impressive pedigree of politicians doing a similar thing to what he's done. He has flip-flop done a lot. has gone back and forth on abortion, on his thoughts on gay marriage. And so it's a little bit difficult to take in his, the, the spiel that he is giving right now, that this is about putting

country over party. This is about putting faith over party. Again, maybe that's totally true. And whether it's true or not, like, I'm fine with it. I just don't really care. And I don't really understand the absolute anger and ire that people are feeling towards Mitt Romney right now. Again, I disagree with him, but okay, like President Trump was acquitted and it's fine. And we can disagree with Mitt Romney all we want to. We can even say his character is questionable if people want to do that. That's fine. But the outright hatred and the animosity and the vitriol that people are showing towards

him because he made a decision that I'm sure that he thought a lot about whether or not we think that Mitt Romney was right. Like I'm sure he thought a lot about this and he knew that it wasn't going to be popular. I don't think that he's someone who is trying to appease liberals or trying to appease the liberal media. Like, he knows that that's a losing battle. But I, so I just don't understand the absolute anger towards him. Like, I don't care. I just don't care. I don't care what Mitt Romney does. And I'm not going to proverbially, like, condemn him to hell just because he made a decision that I happen to disagree with. And a lot of Republicans disagree with. It just

seems petty. And again, like, we can't always complain about the devices. in our country. We can't always complain about how the left and the liberals, they will malign you personally. They will launch ad hominem attacks if you do something that they disagree with. And then we do the same thing ourselves when someone that we disagree with does something that we don't like. I know that was kind of repetitive. But you know what I'm saying. So I don't know. I just don't think, I just don't think it's right the way that people are absolutely tearing him down. So that's what's happened with President Trump. That's what's happened with Mitt Romney. If you were wondering what the drama was and all of that. President

Trump acquitted. People will say exonerated. It's the same thing with the Russian collusion thing. Yes, President Trump wasn't actually convicted for any crime, but was he exonerated of all wrongdoing? Not necessarily. Those are two different things. So I think we have to be careful about that. Again, I think we speak factually. Now, speak. of President Trump. Let's talk about the State of the Union address, which was extremely amazing. It was an amazing speech. It was probably the best speech of his presidential career. And there is a lot to applaud if you haven't listened to it. If you didn't watch it, you should go on YouTube and you should watch it. I'm sure it's on C-SPAN and elsewhere. You can go watch

and listen to it with the president's speech. It was really good because what he did was he focused on Not his own administration's accomplishments only, but also the accomplishments of the American people. That unemployment is down. He talked about the American heroes that we can recognize. Tuske Airman, who was 100 years old and looks amazing, by the way, was in the audience. A child who was born at, I think, 21 weeks or maybe 23 weeks gestation, so extremely premature. She was a toddler there pointing to the sacredness of human life. there was a person in the military who came home to surprise, greet his family, and we just all love that. It made for good television, but it also painted a very positive picture of the United

States of America that we are not getting from any Democratic candidates. The schick of the Democratic candidates right now is that America is fundamentally a bad and a racist and a bigoted and a corrupt and a depraved place, and we need to overhaul everything in order to make it even a livable place, which is just absolute insanity that's mostly coming from people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. But when you listen to President Trump, you listen to someone say, hey, this is the great American comeback. I said that I was going to make America great again and look how great America is. And this is best Donald Trump. When he focuses on the goodness and the greatness of America and the American people and is not so obsessed with himself and so obsessed with either

criticism or praise of himself. It's when Trump is so egotistical, which I think he very naturally is. It's when Trump gets into that realm that he's so unlikable to so many people. When he has such thin skin, like when people say something bad about him and he can't help but punch back harder and punch down at them, that's when I think a lot of people, women especially who, I don't know, I just think that we're more sensitive towards that stuff. Like we see that kind of behavior on Twitter or on TV from President Trump and we just don't like it. But when the president is like this, when he's saying, look, I'm here to serve you. I'm here to make America better. I'm here to do what I can along with, you know, along with Congress. He's not a monarch to give you opportunities

and to make your life as good as it can be or help you make your life as good as it can be. The government cannot make your life good, but it can give you opportunities to do that. That's what we conservatives believe or it can allow you. It can even less than that. It allows the country to create opportunities which people can take or leave. So that is President Trump in his best when he's talking about the opportunities taken by the American people and showing the courage of Americans, showing the hard work of Americans. And he did a really good job in that.

Now, he went into controversial territory, of course, because this is what President Trump does. Now, the things that he talked about didn't used to be as controversial as they are today. So we talked about illegal aliens is what he called them or maybe criminal aliens. That might be how he referred to them and how it's important to secure our borders and the crimes that have been committed by illegal aliens. Now, that doesn't mean that we don't like immigrants. That doesn't mean that we don't even like illegal immigrants. But that does mean that we think illegal immigration is bad for our country, that it's bad for citizens. it's bad for the most vulnerable citizens.

It doesn't help when we don't have a sovereign nation in which we can enact good laws that are good for our citizenry. And so he reiterated that. And of course, people are saying that's demagoguery, that's white supremacist, whatever it is that people are saying. But the fact of the matter is, it was an excellent speech. He focused on you guys. He focused on us as Americans. And he did a good job. Now, when I post about this, like when I say, okay, President Trump did a great speech.

and there is no Democrat right now that is even close to President Trump. Like if the election happened tomorrow, I think President Trump would win in a landslide. We've got a lot of time until November and we know Democrats are going to try their darndest to beat him. Of course, Republicans would be doing the same thing. But as we've seen so far, they will try every underhanded trick in the book to make sure that he doesn't get reelected. But if the election were happening tomorrow, I think President Trump would win in a landslide. And I think that he is doing a good job right now. of conveying a message and of embodying a persona that is attractive to a lot of people,

even in the middle. Now, when I say things like that on my page, I get backlash, which might be funny to some of you who have been following me for a while and follow me exclusively for my politics. Like you know I'm conservative. You've heard me a million times talk about my true thoughts about President Trump that I voted for him because I think he's the best option because I look to my left and I see so much craziness. I see a vision for the country that I don't want for my.

myself that I don't want for my children and grandchildren that I don't want for you or your kids and grandchildren. And I say, okay, he's our alternative. Like, he's our option right now. Yes, he's imperfect. And he says a lot of things and maybe even does some things that I don't really like and I don't agree with. But he is our imperfect conduit for policies that I think are good for the country. You guys have heard me talk about that a lot. And yet, whenever I say a positive thing about Donald Trump, like I will either get a review on this podcast saying, oh my gosh, you're just. bending over backwards to worship President Trump or I'll get a comment or a message saying, oh, this is muddying your Christianity the way you worship Donald Trump. You're too pro-Trump.

I can't, you know, I can't share this with my friends because you're so pro-Trump. I'm like, you guys are, but it's fine. I was going to say you guys aren't even listening, but the fact of the matter is this comes with the territory of having a podcast or having a following on social media. You're going to have people that don't listen, that misunderstand you, that take one thing that you say and they don't listen to anything else you say and that's fine. It's just a part of it and I'm totally okay with pushback. As I've said many times, I completely understand and sympathize with the Christians who say, I just can't vote for Donald Trump.

Like, I just can't get past the stuff he says. I just can't get past the stuff he does. I say, okay, that's fine. Like, yes, if you vote for Democrats, we've got to talk about something. We've got to talk about this. But if you're like, I just can't vote for President Trump. Okay. I can sympathize with that position.

What I don't understand is people not understanding why I and other Christians would vote for Donald Trump. I don't understand how a Christian can't understand that. Like, I understand you as a Christian not liking Donald Trump. I don't understand how you can't understand why I and so many other Christians will vote for Donald Trump. There's a mischaracterization of Christians who vote for Donald Trump, that we are, that we're worshipping him, that we think he's our political Messiah, that we pretend like he doesn't have any flaws. that we put him in the place of Jesus that we think he's a perfect Christian that he embodies all of the Christian values that we want a politician to embody. Like, I do not pretend like President Trump is some perfect or even most of the time,

like, moral guy. I don't pretend that at all. I don't watch his rallies because I don't like his rallies. I know a lot of people, or I don't dislike all of his rallies, but there's a lot of things that he says. It's just not appealing to me. It's not attractive to me. And I'm not afraid of criticizing him.

I have no personal allegiance to Donald Trump. And I don't mind critiquing him at all. But like I said, do I think that he is the alternative that we have to a left that undermines that directly contradict all of the things that have ever made America what it is, that have ever made America good that have led to human flourishing? Yes. And so if he is the alternative to that, if he is the, like I've said, imperfect conduit of policies that I think are best for the country, then yes, I'm going to vote for him.

And I don't understand what is so difficult to get about that. I understand your position. And I would ask for a little bit of open-mindedness to understand why Christians vote for Trump and to not mischaracterize us as pretending like he's a perfect guy. Maybe there are certainly people who pretend like Trump is a perfect guy like he's ever done anything wrong and that he is their pastor. I'm sure those people exist. but I don't know any Christians that are voting for Donald Trump who are like, yep, love every single

facet of his personality, every choice he's ever made. Love it. Completely agree with him. And honestly, I think that he is, you know, I think that he is the best person who's ever existed. I don't know, I don't know any Christian voting for Donald Trump who thinks that way. That's a mischaracterization. And I think a lot of people who are so anti-Trump are on this high horse of believing that not voting for Donald Trump is some form of righteousness that they have. other Christians and it's just not true. It's just not true. So anyway, great speech. Nancy Pelosi did not think so. You guys have probably seen that she stood up after the State of the Union. First of all, she was difficult to watch the whole time because she was making these very subtle

faces. Now, it's really difficult to know whether she's making faces or if she has just some sort of tick and I'm not trying to be rude. Like I just don't know sometimes what's going on with her expressions and what she's trying to convey with her face. But the whole time you're just kind of like trying to read her emotions. She's apparently following along on the speech. And she is sometimes repeating the things that he is saying. You can tell she's pointing at people telling them to cut it out. I mean, it's just funny.

Like that in and of itself, Nancy Pelosi in and of herself was a show the entire time that Trump was speaking. Well, after the speech, which was. an incredible speech, no matter which side of the aisle that you're on, President Trump said a lot of things that are good for every kind of group in the country, no matter what gender you are, no matter what race you are. The Democrats sat down during all of these bipartisan victories or what should be bipartisan victories that are unequivocally good for the country. Democrats sat there like bullfrogs on a tree stump, just mad, mad, mad about the country's success while Nancy Pelosi just put an exclamation mark on all the Democrats' frustration when she stood up after the speech and behind

Trump's head, where she's sitting and now standing next to Vice President Pence, she rips up the speech. I mean, I have never seen a more childish thing in my life. And some people are saying, oh, you're so offended by. I'm not offended by. I'm not offended by it. I would say that impeachment, an unsubstantiated impeachment is a lot more offensive, is a lot worse. than her ripping up the speech, but it was just childish. It was so silly. I could not believe she did that. I could not believe that she stood up and did that.

Now, some people are saying, well, it's because or it's payback for President Trump snubbing her handshake before the speech. Maybe President Trump did snub her handshake. If he did, I wouldn't necessarily put that past him. I mean, the lady tried to impeach him for basically no reason, like I've already said. So I wouldn't put him past him to do that. Did I think that it was the right thing to do if he did snub her handshake? No, but not entirely unexpected.

But I don't honestly know if he saw her hand like he didn't shake Vice President Pence's hands. And so I don't actually know that. She posted on her Instagram a picture of her extending her hand and him turning away from her and saying Democrats will never stop offering or extending the hand of friendship to get things done. That is the biggest joke. Like you've tried to impeach the guy. you ripped up his speech afterwards. Like, did you post a picture of that? I mean, it's really just hilarious.

It just adds to the vitriol. It adds the divisiveness of the country. They're constantly complaining about how President Trump has taken us to new depths of impoliteness. Well, I'm not so sure that Nancy Pelosi hasn't been just as much as responsible for the divisiveness in the country as anyone else. So, Nancy Pelosi didn't like the speech. and that is fine. Like that is totally expected because it was a really good speech and it's no doubt that President Trump and his administration have done a really good job these past three years,

have totally exceeded Republicans, conservatives, expectation. And he is the frontrunner. Absolutely for the presidential election right now. Democrats just don't have a good candidate. Like they're even saying that on MSNBC. They don't have a good candidate. You've got Bernie Sanders that's too extreme. You've got Elizabeth Warren that's too extreme. And she's just trying to be like Bernie Sanders, but no one can be like Bernie Sanders for all of his many,

many flaws and bad ideas. He has been consistent, consistently wrong, but he has been consistent and sincere for a long time and people like that. That's not true for Elizabeth Warren. She's changed her mind many times. And I think she still even calls herself a capitalist. Well, the people that like her ideas don't like capitalism. So that's not really going to work for her. And then you've got Joe Biden. who just really can't string a sentence together. And I really don't like attacking people like that or saying things like that about people. And I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to make fun of him.

But that really truly is the problem with Joe Biden, is that he is not able to articulate anything in a compelling way. And so he's not an attractive candidate. Like no one is excited to vote for Joe Biden. The Iowa caucus, as of right now, as I am talking. Pete Buttigieg is ahead of Bernie Sanders just a little, little bit. A 96% reporting in the Iowa caucus, as we talked about on Wednesday, craziness surrounding the Iowa caucus, the results were supposed to come in on Monday night. And they're only now on Thursday,

as I'm recording this, still coming in. Pete Buttigieg, slightly ahead of Bernie Sanders, which is a shock to me. That is totally shocking. Now, Pete Buttigieg has done a lot of work in Iowa. he also apparently his campaign apparently gave money to the app that was running that was collecting the votes for the caucus i'm kind of confused about that and so some people are calling him mayor cheat which i think is funny maybe not fair but is kind of clever i'm surprised i'm very surprised that pete buddhajedge has done such a good job there uh now that could tell us a couple things well it could tell us nothing that he's just put in a lot of work in iowa and that he's not going to go anywhere for the rest of the primary season, which I personally think is going to happen. But also, he has poised himself as a little bit of a moderate. Now, he's not actually moderate. He is just as extreme as the rest of them on abortion and other things like that. But he's said a couple things that are not quite as far left as someone like Bernie Sanders.

So Bernie Sanders believes that felons should be able to vote from prison, not just rehabilitate after prison and be able to vote then, but should be able to vote from prison. And Pete Buttigieg just said, oh, no, I. I don't agree with that. I don't think you should be able to vote from from prison. He does believe in rehabilitated after and being able to gain back your right to vote. But he doesn't believe that felons should vote from prison. I know that's like a moderate view now. And he also doesn't believe in Medicare for all.

Like he believes in health care for all, but not Medicare for all. So whereas Bernie Sanders believes that we should take away everyone's private health insurance, that you should not be able to get insurance through your employer, that you shouldn't have health care coverage of your choice. You shouldn't be able to choose the doctors that you want to. choose you shouldn't have the kind of quality health care that you can afford to have or that you want to have but you have to be on single payer health care like everyone will be on medicare that is what bernie sanders wants to do costing the country trillions and trillions of dollars who doesn't even know how

much it costs but he just says this is what we have to do he wants to take away your health insurance pete put a judge said i want to take away your health insurance i want to take away your health insurance i want to give you a public option if you want to keep your health insurance you should be able to keep your health insurance. Now, healthcare for all, there are so problems with that. I did an entire podcast titled Health Care. So if you're on Apple, you can just type in relatable health care. It'll pop up. You can listen to that. You can probably just Google it to relatable Allie Beth Stecky Healthcare. You can watch it on YouTube. So you can know all the ins and outs of that. But could it be that people aren't looking for the extremism of Bernie Sanders and

that there are a significant number of people that are looking for somewhat of the moderate in Pete Buttigieg. Now, again, he's not really moderate, but are people buying into that? That could tell us something or, again, it could tell us nothing at all. And Pete Buttigieg could just go by the wayside and we could never really hear that much from his campaign again. He's obviously lost a lot in the past few days with the results coming out so slowly because he doesn't get that, he doesn't get that momentous moments on the night of victory on Monday. day night to be able to give a victory speech and for people to take notice of him and for the media to really put a spotlight on him. So he's unfortunately for him lost a lot of momentum going into

New Hampshire. That's where we're headed next by the way. Okay, because we have already, we're already basically at the 30 minute mark, I want to get into, I did want to talk about a couple other things. I want to talk about Mike Bloomberg. If he's a viable candidate and just the crazy things that he believes specifically about China, I want to talk about the coronavirus. But because so many of you have asked me to talk about Taylor Swift and her documentary Miss Americana on Netflix. I want to at least touch on that. So I watched this for you guys. You are welcome, hard work having to sit in front of the TV and watching a Netflix documentary. You guys really make me just bend over backwards for relatable, obviously being sarcastic. So I watched it and it was good.

Like it was a good documentary. I appreciate a documentary. My husband will tell you, I can become like interested in anything, even if I'm not initially interested in it. So I'm not like the biggest Taylor Swift stand that you've ever met. I just haven't, I'm just not like totally into her. But it was a very interesting documentary. I was sucked in. I've been sucked into hunting documentaries. Like I'll watch hunting shows. I watched a show about Connor McGregor the other day. And I was like so fascinated by it. So I can really be fascinated by anything. But I thought this was a good documentary. I went to one of her shows in 2014 or 15. I don't remember why. I don't know if someone gave me these tickets, but I went with my husband or maybe I wanted to. I don't know. But the show was amazing.

It was incredible. Like she is an incredible performer. I remember as a sophomore. So like I said, I'm not a huge Taylor Swift stand, but I was like all high schoolers were at, at this time, at least in like 2008 to 2010, maybe even 2007 listening to Taylor Swift. And when I first got my driver's license. Her album Fearless was out, and I listened to that all of the time. She's three years older than me. She was born in 1989. I was born in 92. And so our lives, the stages of our lives, did overlap quite a bit. So I liked Taylor Swift's albums for the same reason that a lot of teenagers did, a lot of teenage girls did, is that she related to us. Like she talked about our insecurities. She talked about our awkwardness. She talked about our crushes.

She talked about our heartbreak, or she sang about these things. And this was probably the first artist that a lot of us teenage girls around this time really felt like we could relate to. And she was just likable. But at the same time, people loved to hate Taylor Swift. And I think I was also one of those people who kind of just thought she was fake and that her whole persona was contrived, that someone was behind her and that her voice wasn't real. but when I watch this documentary and you go back and you look at where she started and how she started, what you see is that, A, she actually does have a really good voice on her own. Like she doesn't need a whole lot of computerization in order to make her voice good.

She has a good voice. And she's a really good songwriter. Like she has been creative and clever in her songwriting from the beginning. And you also see you just get this feeling when you're watching some of her first days that she was really born for this. Like she was made for this. She is extremely talented and she's just had that thing. Some people are talented, but they don't have the thing that it takes to make them famous and to give them a big audience and a lot of followers and to propel them forward. And some people are really hard workers, but they don't have that thing.

Some people are talented and really hard workers, but they don't have that it factor. And some people aren't really that talented. They're not that hard of workers, but they do have that it factor. and they still move forward at least to a degree. Well, she seems like she's a hard worker. She is talented and she just has that intangible thing that you can't learn, that you can't teach that people are born with and that people watch her. Now, you might be listening to or watching this and you're like,

I don't like Taylor Swift at all. I don't know what you're talking about. Well, it doesn't really matter whether you or I like her. The fact of the matter is is that millions upon millions of people have loved Taylor Swift for over a decade now. and she has done a really good job of building a career. So I want to say all of that positive stuff about Taylor Swift. And I also want to give the caveat that I don't know, Taylor.

So I'm not pronouncing when I'm about to talk about some of the political things that she said. I'm not pronouncing any personal judgment upon her. I will assume the best in her and believe that she's sincere, believe that she's a compassionate person that truly does care about other people and wants to have the right position in politics. I just think that she is miseducated. I won't even say uneducated, but miseducated on the subject of politics. And though she means well, doesn't actually understand the ramifications of the policies that she is advocating for. Now, before I even say that, something that struck me, before I started listening to some of the political things she was saying,

is that she comes across as very young, just very young, like younger than me, the way that she talks about having kids as the thing that she like can't even imagine or, you know, settling down and having a family. And again, she's three years older than me. So that would make her 30 years old or I guess she'll be turning 31 years old this year if she was born in 89. And she just struck me as I don't like to say the word immature because it sounds like such a pejorative. But she just seems young. She just comes across as like I just think that if you're 30 or 31 years old and you're still talking about, oh, the responsibility of kids that scares me. okay, well, it might be time to start, you know, catching up, even if you don't have kids,

but just mentally realizing, okay, you are an adult. It's time for other responsibilities and to care about people other than, other than just like you're a little small circle. And that's something that all of us go through. So that struck me at first, that she seems to be in a younger stage of life than most people I know that are 30 and 31, which is kind of interesting because obviously she has a ton of responsibility and commitments in the things that she does. She does. does as far as her career goes. But I've heard a lot of, you know, 25 to 35 year old people talk. And she came across as just in a much younger stage of life than me and all of the people that I know that are in her same age group. So when she started talking about some politics, like she started talking

about the fact, this was, I guess this was filmed in 2018. So it was during the midterm elections. and she was talking about she has to stand up and finally say something because Marcia Blackburn is running for Senate. And she called Marsha Blackburn, who I had on the show last Friday. Again, I encourage you to go listen to that if you're curious who Marsha Blackburn is. She said that she was a racist homophobic. She made some claims about her that she voted against the Violence Against Women Act, which just protects women from stalking. And she related that back to herself.

She also said that she believes that Marcia Blackburn believes that a gay couple or a couple that even looks gay should be able to be kicked out of a restaurant. And really the whole documentary seemed to have these undertones of women are being victimized. And Taylor Swift is one of those women. I'm not saying she hasn't been victimized. There was a part about the sexual assault trial, which I am very glad she won. there was a part about, you know, her being stalked and someone breaking into her home and sleeping in her bed, which is very scary. And we should have compassion for her and anyone who is a victim for that. I am all for listening to and showing sympathy and compassion towards

victims and listening to women's stories. Absolutely. But the underlying, the undertones were certainly that women are being victimized. And now is the time the remedy to that. Now is the time to stand up and basically be a liberal and voice your liberal politics. And that is what Taylor Swift did because she believes that Marcia Blackburn, in her words, is a racist homophobe. And so I want to clarify some of these things that she said against Marsha Blackburn. So one of the things that she said was that she voted against the reauthorization of violence against Women Act. And I want to clarify that using an article from the Washington Examiner by Madeline Fry. When Blanche. Blackburn voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act in 2013.

She was in the House of Representatives. So this is an aside by Allie. She's in the Senate now. This was in the House of Representatives in 2013. She voted for the House Republican version, but against the Senate version, which she said had been diluted. She said this on MSNBC. When you start to make this about other things, it becomes an against violence act and not a targeted focused act. That is there to address the issue of violence against women.

Despite Blackburn's disapproval. the bill passed. For context, this article in the Washington Examiner says the Violence Against Women Act was first passed in 1994, but it must be renewed every few years to ensure federal funds continue to help women who have been victims of domestic abuse and other forms of violence. Each year, the act is modified with provisions to which members of the GOP object. Last year, the House passed a bill closing the boyfriend loophole, but also included language that would entitle transgender women to share shelters with biological women. The Senate has not yet voted on that bill. So there are these provisions that Democrats mostly have added in that a lot of Republicans and a lot of conservatives don't agree with. Now, and this is one of them, at least now, that transgender women, so biological males to our, their Democrats are pushing for them to be able to share shelters with biological women. So again, we see which we've talked about a million times that there are no safe spaces for biological women anymore, not sports, not even abuse shelters. Biological men now.

have a right to those spaces which endangers biological women. Why? Because of men and women aren't the same. There are fundamental biological differences between us. Women are weaker than men. Again, this endangers women. This is where feminism, this is where leftism has brought us. So this is what Taylor Swift is talking about. There are provisions that Marcia Blackburn disagreed with. She doesn't disagree with protecting women against violence. She doesn't disagree with protecting women against stalking. Of course, she agrees with those things. She didn't agree with the provisions that were put on this particular bill in 2013. And she thought that whatever provisions those were actually endangered women and made them more vulnerable. That is the kind of nuance that

Taylor Swift is not going to probably even read or no, because my guess is that she probably has a bunch of liberal resources that she is referring to when she is looking for these things. because, as I've said many times, the default as a young person in America is to be a liberal. And if you are listening to the mainstream anything, if you're listening to the mainstream media, if you're on social media, if you're watching Netflix, all of it is bent towards the left. And so that's where your worldview, that's how your worldview is going to be shaped. And so you just assume that there's no other side of the story. There's no other part to this.

There couldn't possibly be nuanced. There couldn't possibly be facts that you don't know. It must be that Marsha Blackburn just hates women. And she also said that Marsha Blackburn wants to take us back to the 1950s with women, whatever that means. She doesn't actually cite any evidence of that. And the same thing with her saying that Marsha Blackburn believes that gay people should be able to be kicked out of restaurants.

I have not been able to find any proof whatsoever that Marshall Blackburn believes that. Now, you can tell me if you have seen where Marshall Blackburn said that or why Taylor Swift, would accuse her of something like this, you can let me know. She also called her a racist. Again, citing no facts whatsoever. But this is the thing with the social justice left. If you ask them, hey, like, what do you mean by that? Could you clarify that? Could you give me some specifics on that? Could you point me to a resource on that? Like, where did you find that evidence? Well, they just get flustered. They get very mad. And the fact that you've even questioned them, the fact that you've even asked for clarity means that you are on the wrong side of history.

Taylor Swift said that she wants to be on the right side of history. Taylor Swift said that she wants to be on the right side of history, which is just silly. She said, you know, I'm from Tennessee. I'm a Christian. Marsha Blackburn doesn't represent Tennessee Christian values, which I had no idea that Taylor Swift identifies as a Christian. I would love for Taylor Swift to come on this podcast. We can talk theology. We can talk about what the Bible says. We can talk about a biblical view of government. She doesn't have to agree with me on everything. But if she identifies as a Christian and we can find a common ground as sisters in Christ, then I am willing to talk to her about any of this stuff. One of the things she said or she agreed with someone else saying that the GOP is attacking her intelligence because they don't actually want

to debate her ideas because they don't believe women are worth debating. That is so laughable. Like the GOP, Republicans, conservatives, we are obsessed with debates. We are obsessed with the debates. We constantly ask people to debate us. Debate me. Debate me. Like we want everyone to debate us. Do you know how many conservatives have asked Alexandria, Clasio-Cortez, I almost forgot her name because I call her AOC?

Do you know how many conservatives have begged her to come on their shows and debate them? I would love Taylor Swift to come on my show and to have a very respectful dialogue about if she is identifying as a Christian. Again, I don't know her personally. So, you know, I'll take her word on that. We can talk about what the Bible says about politics. What the Bible says about marriage, for example. She talked a lot about gay pride in this documentary.

We can talk about that. She did an entire music video for a song called You Need to Calm Down, basically saying that all of the people that believe in traditional marriage, all of the people that believe in the Orthodox definition of marriage, which has been the definition of marriage, for millennia, by the way, that we all need to calm down. Well, we're not the ones making a music video about our ideology. That was the most condescending, the most patronizing,

the most hateful music video that I've ever seen, all of the things that she's accusing Christians of for abiding by the Bible, for abiding by the Bible's definition of marriage. We apparently need to calm down. You're telling Orthodox Christianity to calm down. You're telling God that he just needs to calm down about the institution that he created,

in the Bible and that we need to all just be metropolitan and sophisticated like you. And she's the one that pretends to be the loving one who was on the right side of history. And if you watch that video, you need to calm down. She portrays everyone who disagrees with the liberal, the worldly definition of marriage, as, oh, it can be between, you know, any gender that you might happen to identify as that day. that she believes that we are all toothless hicks, that we are all gross, that we are all backwards and backwards, and that we smell bad, and that we're stupid,

that no one with any intellect, no one with any ability for critical thought could possibly be against homosexuality, could possibly be against gay marriage. There are no thoughtful Christians, apparently, according to Taylor Swift, that abide by the Word of God and believe in the Word of God and believe that God created marriage for a purpose, both physically and spiritually.

That's what Taylor Swift thinks about Christians who believe in the Bible. And this documentary portrayed her as this, which she has always done this, and I think this documentary did this well, portrayed her as a hurt animal that is being victimized, that she's never on the attack. Well, you did. You attacked Christians. You attacked conservatives. You attacked people who disagree with you in this documentary.

specifically in your music video. So if you are offended by people who have unfairly mischaracterized you, which I do think people have unfairly mischaracterized Taylor Swift, that whole Kanye West thing was very sad and I felt very badly for her and all of that. If you are offended by how people have maligned you, how people have talked badly about you, do you really expect us to feel bad for you when you make a video, making fun of people like me calling me a back?

backwards, backwards, toothless hick, because I believe that the Bible is the word of God. And as such, is the authority on all morality, including marriage? Like, do you, do you really expect us to have sympathy? When you're doing the same thing to us now, I do have sympathy for you, even if you don't have any sympathy for me. I do have compassion for you. Even if you don't have any compassion for me, I do have understanding for you, even if you don't understand me at all.

And I would invite Taylor Swift to a dialogue. I don't think that's going to happen. but so those are all of my thoughts on miss americana i can't disprove all of the claims that she made about marsha blackburn because i haven't been able to find any evidence whatsoever for them so but this is typical like it's just very easy to say well duh she is a sexist racist bigot homophob because she's a republican and people just nod their heads without even thinking critically about it because again all of our mainstream sources of information characterized us this way and that's okay that's fine. I like I don't I don't need I don't need the proper characterization of the mainstream

media like I don't certainly we don't need their approval as Christians we know that a Jesus has sent us out as sheep among wolves and that's how it's going to be but I would just encourage Taylor Swift like if she is sensitive to being attacked which I understand maybe you should be more sensitive about the other people that you are yourself attacking So anyway, those are all of my thoughts on that. And that concludes today's episode. Again, I highly encourage you to tune in on Monday. I'm so excited about it.

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