Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 290 | Trump & the USPS Conspiracy Theory

Episode Date: August 19, 2020

In today's episode, Allie Beth Stuckey covers all of the mail-in voting conspiracies, and as riots and violence continue to rage on in Democratic cities, the partisan ideologies are becoming clearer than ever. Today's Sponsor: Hydrant creates flavored electrolyte packets you mix directly into your water to make hydrating your body easy and delicious. Go to https://DrinkHydrant.com/ALLIE and enter promo code ALLIE.

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone has had a lovely week so far. Today, we are going to talk about the United States Postal Service and the conspiracy theories that are surrounding it and Trump and mail-in voting.

And we will also talk again about the craziness that's going on in America's biggest cities and the worldview behind that. We'll talk a little bit more about the election. There's so much that I want to talk about today. But I only have a finite amount of time and I'm only going to be able to get to these big topics. If you guys are like, oh my gosh, I am just maxed out on politics and the election and all of that craziness right now, then you are in luck because on Friday we are going to take a break from that. you will enjoy the refreshing and Christenter conversation that I am going to have with Ray Sean Copeland. And so if you are looking for an outlet, a way to kind of exit this chaos, this political craziness that's going on right now, then you will thoroughly enjoy Friday's episode.

I'm super excited about it. But today, we have to delve into the chaos. We have to delve into the craziness. And if you are watching this on YouTube, you will notice that I am looking down at my phone to look at my notes because I forgot my computer. I typically have all my notes on my computer, but today I forgot. And so I have to hold my phone to be able to follow along on the things that I want to talk about. A lot of times I don't even look at my notes. Some episodes I've just got like a few bullet points and I can just kind of riff and rant. but today I have so many details and the things that I am going to talk about that I want to make sure that I get exactly correct that I actually have to follow along on my notes the whole time. So I am going to be looking down in my phone from far away like a baby boomer and that's just how I'm going to have to do this episode.

So if you are watching on YouTube, that is what is going to happen. So as a reminder, you know this if you listen to my episode on Monday, but every Monday until the election, there are only 11 months. Monday's left, by the way, I am going to be tackling one election-related issue and I'm going to be breaking it down, talking about why this issue is important, why we should care about it, and then contrast the two tickets Trump versus Biden. On Monday, we covered abortion very thoroughly, but there are things that I didn't even get to in that episode that I could talk about more, but we covered abortion and the two tickets positions on abortion, I think as thoroughly as we could the amount of time that we had on Monday.

We will be talking about religious liberty at the end of that episode. I will have an interview with Dr. John McArthur, the pastor in California that has been pushing back on the draconian regulations that have disproportionately affected churches in California. And so you can look forward to that. We'll be talking about school choice. We'll be talking about justice issues. We will be talking about a variety of issues that affect you and me and that affects the

most vulnerable in our society. and we'll talk about why we should care about them. And we're going to talk a little bit about that today after we get into all of this insanity surrounding the United States Postal Service. And I also, if we have time, I want to talk a little bit about the DNC that's going on right now and just some of the funny things that have gone on. Okay, let's talk about the U.S. Postal Service. Now, any of you who have liberal friends or family members who have been posting about this on Facebook, you have probably seen them go into a tailspin saying that Trump is trying to steal the election by undermining the U.S. Postal Service because he doesn't want mail-in voting because

he's afraid that he is going to lose if more people vote. So they're claiming that he's trying to disenfranchise people. This is what an autocrat does. This is totalitarian dictator behavior. And he is trying to steal mailboxes in order to steal the election. Okay, let us go through the facts of what is actually happening here. you can read plenty of sources even on the left that will tell you there are myths, there are conspiracy theories that are going around, that are working people up into a tizzy that are just not, they're just not factual. They're just not true.

So let's go through it. Number one, number one fact, mail in voting is fraught with problems and potential problems. Okay. So this idea that Trump is just trying to undermine mail and voting because he is afraid that the more people that vote or the more easily that people can vote, the more likely he is to lose. That is simply not based on fact. Mail-in voting, independent of Donald Trump, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, is fraught with potential problems.

And if you Google this, if you Google mail-in voting fraud or mail-in voting problems, all the left-wing outlets will tell you, oh, this is just a myth. That's not true at all. There's no evidence whatsoever that there's anything wrong with mail-in voting. There's no potential for fraud. there's no potential for any kind of malfeasance at all. Everything is going to go perfectly while we have to have mail-in voting due to COVID. That's what the left-wing outlets are going to tell you.

But again, that is simply not true. It is not like a lot of people are saying that it's like absentee voting and states already allow absentee voting, but it's not like absentee voting at all. And here is why. For an absentee vote, a voter has to fill out a form to apply for an absentee ballot using their identification and information. and then they receive that ballot, whereas mail-in ballots are just sent to all registered voters. So that makes a really significant difference because a person applying for an absentee ballot will ensure the address is correct and up-to-date and is creating a paper trail that proves that

they requested the ballots, sending ballots to all registered voters, whether without an application means that you are probably going to get ballots that are sent to the wrong people to old addresses. You might unfortunately send ballots to people who have died. Plus, according to Pew Research, there were 29.6 million people who voted by mail in 2016. That includes absentee ballots. If everyone votes by mail in 2020, that is around 156 million people, according to a Democratic group named Catalyst. Scott Hodginson wrote for the Wall Street Journal about his experience of moving from Washington to Texas and continuing to receive Washington. ballots even after he changed his residence to Texas. Of course, he chose not to vote in the Washington

elections that he would have been able to vote in because that, of course, would be fraudulent. He writes this for the Wall Street Journal. Therein lies but one of a cavalcade of problems with vote by mail. There's no way of knowing how many non-residents will receive ballots. They're not legally allowed to cast. There is no way to confirm how many eligible voters don't receive ballots, many dead people receive multiple ballots, how many ballots actually make it through the mail in time, and how many ballots aren't delivered to the place where there to be counted. Vote by mail may sound like a good idea, he writes, but it isn't. It can't be. It is subject to too many vagaries, too many errors, too much malevolent temptation. The American Republic has done reasonably well with

voting at polling places and a radical revision of the voting process three months ahead of a presidential election would be doomed to inaccuracy and yes, fraud. In an article in the Atlantic title, The Chaos in New York is a Warning. The subtitle is the first large-scale test of mail-in voting in the pandemic has left one in five New Yorkers with their votes tossed out. This is from July 24th. The article says this. More than a month after New York's June 23rd primary election, state election officials

are still counting votes. In some legislative districts, they haven't even started counting absentee votes. Election officials in New York City have already invalidated upwards of 100,000 absentee ballots, about one of every five that were mailed in from the five boroughs. In New York, the election infrastructure was overwhelmed by a massive increase in voters requesting absentee ballots

rather than risking voting in person. Ballot printing firms couldn't keep up with the demand and the already rickety U.S. Postal Service didn't move the ballots to and from voters quickly enough. New York is a solidly Democratic state with a Democratic governor and all the officials who matter said they were committed to expanding voting by mail in other options. And it was a disaster. Almost done. All of this in this article is important. So I want to make sure that I read it all too. Imagine what happens when the results matter more. Imagine it's December 5th. A month after the national elections and the fall. Is President Donald Trump ahead or Joe Biden? Who's ahead in close house races, Senate races,

local races for mayor or state legislature? Are votes still coming in? Are they being contested? Who's making the decisions? Which courts are getting involved? Recounts if they're needed would be in January? February? When is the presidential election going to be called? When will every seat be filled for the next session of Congress? So these are the relevant questions that this article in the Atlantic is asking, especially looking at a place like New York, that ended in a disaster for the people who voted by mail. Here's another example of this not working mail-in voting. In New Jersey, this is reported by CNN on June 25th, quote, a city councilman and a councilman elect are among the four people charged with voting fraud related to a New Jersey election. The investigation

began after the U.S. Postal Inspection Service found hundreds of mail-in. ballots in a mailbox in Patterson. Numerous additional ballots were found in another mailbox and nearby Halladin, according to a release from the Attorney General. The May 12th elections in New Jersey were conducted by mail-in ballots due to the coronavirus pandemic. New Jersey allows a bearer to take ballots from several people and deliver them to the County Board of Elections. A bear can only collect and deliver ballots for only three people. And a candidate in the election is never permitted to be a bearer. Democratic Councilman Michael Jackson is one of the people who was charged in this case of fraud. And the article says Jackson allegedly did not

identify himself as a bear on the mail-in ballots that he delivered to the Passaic County Board of Elections. And he allegedly had more than three ballots that were not his. So that's another case happening in New Jersey in West Virginia. According to USA Today, a mail carrier pled guilty to election fraud after altering ballot requests to Republican. We could go on and on. There is not just obviously the potential for fraud, as we have already seen proven in particular states. There's also the fact that we are just not prepared.

We don't have the infrastructure in place, according to NBC News. The Postal Service says that the mail-in voting rules for 46 states don't match up with the Postal Service's delivery standards of possible timeframes. The article says this, quote, In recent weeks, Postal Service General Counsel Thomas Marshall penned letters warning that states may be overestimating the speed with which ballots will move through the mail. If the post office is not afforded a few extra days of leeway to deliver ballots to the election offices, Marshall warned that late arriving ballots could leave some voters disenfranchised. So, no, I obviously don't believe that we should be doing mail-in-voting this election,

which may be the most consequential election in American history. And I understand we say that about every election and in some way. It's true maybe about every election, but I truly believe. And I would say even Democrats would say that America is at a crossroads. If we tried to force mail-in voting for all 150 million plus voters without the infrastructure, without the systems in place, without the accountability that's needed to maintain the integrity of our elections, it would be mass chaos. Mass chaos. Is that what we need right now? More mass chaos? And knowing all of these things, Democrats know these things, the journalists who are putting out articles saying there's no problem

whatsoever with mail-in voting. There's no potential for fraud. There's no potential for chaos, for miscounts, for the need for recounts. There's nothing wrong with it at all. We have to do mail-on voting to protect people from coronavirus. The people that are pushing so hard for this, the people that know the problems that could potentially come with it. The same people, by the way, the same Democrats, the same liberals who fight tooth and nail against voter ID laws, which simply say that you have to show a valid ID in order to vote to make sure that you are a citizen. They fight hard against those. And so they are also the ones that are saying, we don't need to worry about the integrity of our elections when it comes to mail and voting. I mean, these are the same people also who have been

talking about Russia interfering in our elections in 2016, and they have talked about the importance of making sure that we don't have any interference in our elections, but they're pushing against voter ID laws, and they're pushing against any proper system to make sure that the 2020 election is legitimate and is orderly. The fact that they are pushing so hard for this, knowing, knowing that we don't have the logistical know-how, that we don't, again, have the accountability tells me that they, want the chaos. They want the chaos that is inevitably going to ensue because they believe that the chaos is going to benefit them. If they can go ahead now and push for a process that will inevitably

lead to confusion and recounts and mysteriously found boxes of Democratic ballots, then they will be able to, I think they believe, and this is all, this is conjecture. This is my personal analysis. I believe that a lot of the Democratic leadership believes that they will be able to win that fight. If they cannot win the fight at the ballot box, I think that they think that they will be able to win the fight afterward. If they can put this cloud of confusion around election day, they will say if we don't do mail in voting, this is a form of voter suppression and disenfranchisement and that the election results are therefore wrong or therefore illegitimate if Trump wins. If Trump wins mail in or not, Democratic.

know their base who are right now destroying the streets of Portland and Seattle, which we'll get into in a second, they know that they will lose their minds. And so I think that they are trying to leverage. They're trying to create as much chaos, as much confusion, as much doubt and fear as possible, even before the election happens, to try to preemptively say these results are going to be illegitimate. Leftism, remember, as an idea, So this is not saying that all people who identify as leftist or all people who are Democrats or all people who identify as liberals. But leftism as an ideology, as a school of thought, if you could even call it that, is fueled by chaos. It is fueled by division via identity politics.

It divides people by their race, their gender, their socioeconomic class, et cetera. It pits them against each other by fostering resentment against those they claim are privileged from those they claim are pressed. And so the reason a single Democrat has not condemned the outright violent terrorism by Antifa and BLM in some of our major cities. The reason why Congresswoman Ayanna Presley says that there must continue to be, quote, unrest in the streets on MSNBC is because the chaos helps them achieve their goals, which long term is a complete remaking of the United States into a socialist, what they would call a utopia, I would say it's a dystopia. Now, I don't think, again, that everyone on the left consciously thinks this or consciously wants this. I would say that most people on the left

don't think that that is the future that Democrats are painting. They don't see the leftist ideology in this way. So I don't think that they consciously have these goals. But the far left has more and more power in the Democratic Party to the point where no member of Congress will denounce its extremists that are killing people, that are assaulting people. And again, we'll get into more of that in a second because this radical ideology is now driving their side. And as an ideology, leftism stops at nothing to gain power. And chaos helps them achieve that. If they can create anarchy, then they can create the case that the government needs to swoop in and to be our savior and to crack down on dissent. Again, we are

seen the creation and the exacerbation of this chaos through these conspiracy theories about Trump and conservatives and Republicans being against mail in voting. So they are gaslighting the rest of the country into saying there are no problems with male in voting. The only reason you don't want it is because you don't want certain people to vote. The reality is that male in voting has more potential to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people than voting in person does. And then there are all these wild conspiracy theories about the USPS that are going around that is being

used to fuel further the distrust in the election results and cause the ensuing chaos that we just talked about. Here are the facts about the United States Postal Service. You've probably seen a lot of crazy posts going around. Here are the facts about that. The USPS overall, most of us know this. It's become this crazy partisan issue, but two weeks ago everyone would have agreed that the USPS overall is not great at its job. That doesn't mean there are wonderful people who work at the USPS and wonderful people who do their jobs really well. Of course, of course there are. But the fact is, they have been losing money for 13 years because people don't need mail service as much. We've got FedEx, we've got UPS. Those two companies have not been losing money. They've also made terrible deals

with the postal unions, which like all public unions, as I've argued before, should not. exist. They have drained the USPS of money. And actually Obama in 2014, his administration actually took funding away, some funding away from the USPS. This has been a problem that administrations have been trying to address for a long time. And the Democrats in Congress right now want a USPS bailout to the tune of 25 billion taxpayer dollars in the coronavirus relief package. And Trump has said in the past? No. And he blatantly said, you guys have been one email in voting this whole time for what, you know, he believes that he believes that it's for the purpose of voter fraud. And he believes that it's for the purpose of stealing the election. And so he says, we're not going to do that.

I'm not going to give you what he would call election money. And the Postal Service doesn't deserve a bailout. That's what I believe. They got themselves into the mess that they are currently in. Now, should Trump have said, hey, I don't want to fund this because of the election? No, I don't think that was the most politically savvy thing to say. I understand what he's saying and it's not nearly as nefarious as the left is saying that it is. But I don't think it was, you know, the smartest thing for him to say in the midst of all of this. Here's another fact that dispels a lot of the myths that are going around about this. The USPS does not rely on Congress for funding. It is almost. entirely self-funded. So Trump saying, hey, we shouldn't bail out the USPS with 25 billion taxpayer dollars is not taking money away from the postal service that is rightfully there. It's also the USPS does not have to be funded by Congress that is not, that is not required. Article 1, Section 8 plus 7 of the Constitution gives Congress the power or gives Congress, quote, the power to establish post offices and post roads. So Congress can

create and fund the Postal Service, but it does not have to. Democrats are claiming the USPS is going to go under before November, and that is why Trump doesn't want to save it, but that's not true. And it's June 2020 fiscal report. The USPS said it has, quote, sufficient liquidity to continue operating through at least August 2021. So even if they don't get bailed out, they wouldn't stop operating before the election. That's just not a possibility that's not what's happening. But none of that matters to people like Taylor Swift to Jamie Lee Curtis, Rex Chapman. He's kind of a – he used to be a basketball player, but he's kind of just a Twitter figure. Now, they all have obviously many, many millions of followers altogether on Twitter.

They are all claiming that Trump is stealing the election by literally stealing the blue USPS boxes. They've posted pictures and videos. A lot of Twitter users have of these boxes being picked up and hauled away and locks on boxes and influencers, liberal figures on Twitter are saying that this is Trump trying to undermine mail-in voting so he will win. They are saying that this is all part of a grand conspiracy to stop mail-in voting. Barack Obama tweeted this. Everyone depends on the USPS, seniors for their social security, veterans for their prescription,

small businesses trying to keep their doors open. They can't be collateral damage for an administration more concerned with. with suppressing the vote, then suppressing the virus. Well, the problem is Barack Obama that Social Security stopped sending physical checks, stopped sending paper checks in 2013 when you were president. So this is just a farce. Plus, Trump is not trying to undermine the USPS and these pictures and these videos going around of the USPS allegedly taking these boxes and putting them away so people can't vote.

They're not real. In most of these cases, the boxes are being replaced by new ones. And since 1985, hundreds of thousands of boxes have been taken off the streets because, again, the USPS just isn't used in the way that it used to be. It's not used as much as it used to be. And so every year, there are hundreds of boxes that are being taken down. We just haven't noticed because it wasn't a partisan issue. And the locks that are on these USPS, those, you know, those blue boxes, there are red locks on them sometimes. they're typically on there on Sundays so people don't go in and steal the mail and the packages that are in there.

That is a huge problem in some areas and places like Burbank, California, for example, where some of these pictures were taken. People are saying this is Trump trying to steal the election. In August, they're putting locks on USPS boxes to try to steal the election. It's just crazy. It's a conspiracy theory. These locks have been on there for a long time. They are in a lot of places on their. every Sunday. But again, people are just now noticing because the Democrats are trying to make this

a political issue. They're trying to claim pretty much baselessly, except for Trump made a gaffe, which he shouldn't have made, but they're claiming baselessly that Trump is trying to end the USPS before the election so we can't have mail and voting. That's not what's happening. That's not even possible. There's not even the potential for that happening. And the changes that are being made to the USPS are being made for cost efficiency reasons, and they've been being made for months, if not years, because again, the USPS has been losing money for 13 years. But Democrats, that doesn't stop them from peddling this wild conspiracy theory to cause chaos, to cause distrust, to preemptively cast doubt on the election. The past four years have unfortunately been these kinds of conspiracy theories,

the Russia conspiracy theory that died a gruesome death with the Mueller report, the kids in cages conspiracy theory that said Trump built these cages to put children in when, in fact, the picture that was going around saying, this is Trump's America. Those were pictures from 2014, a.k.a. when Obama was in office, the Obama administration built the facilities that people are saying, no, this is kids in cages. Yeah, the Obama administration built those cages. They built those facilities on the border. The quid pro quo Ukraine conspiracy theory that led to a partisan impeachment, which no one even talks about anymore. So there have been a lot of conspiracy theories that have been going around in the Democrat

world since Trump took office because they still have not been able to accept the results of the 2016 election. And they preemptively are showing that they are unwilling to accept the results of the 2020 election if Trump wins. The only way to get Democrats to admit, say we do have mail-in voting, which like I said, would be absolutely crazy. say we do have mail-in voting and Trump wins. That will be the only way that you will get Democrats to admit at this point that

mail-in voting has problems. That will just allow them to say, oh, well, actually, actually, there has been fraud. Actually, there has been miscounts. Actually, this did disenfranchise and leave out more voters than would have, that would have happened if we had in-person voting. So here's the thing. Here's what we just have to realize. is that in-person voting is safe.

If you can go to the grocery store, unless you are a very vulnerable, fragile person, like your health is in jeopardy in an extreme way, so you haven't been outside since March. If you can go to the grocery store, if you can stand in line anywhere else, then you can stand in line to vote. Dr. Fauci himself said there is no reason

why someone cannot go in person to vote. So if we want every vote possible to count Republican and Democrat, then we need to do everything we can to make sure that we can vote in person. If you've got to vote absentee, do that. I think in person voting benefits, Democrats, just as much as it does Republicans. I don't think it necessarily benefits anyone's side. But I think that there is a possibility of less chaos,

of more integrity and accountability in our elections in ensuring that people on both sides of the aisle, that as many people on both sides of the aisle get their vote counted as possible. I don't think that in-person voting benefits Republicans anymore. I just think that it is the best way, especially just a few months before the election, it is the best way to make sure that our process is as transparent and, is as smooth as humanly possible. So this shouldn't even be a partisan thing. And the fact that it is a partisan thing, the fact that Democrats are pushing for it, knowing, knowing that this is fraught with potential problems, again, just makes you wonder if they are vying for,

if they are vying for the chaos that they know will ensue. So for you, don't be afraid. Make sure that you vote. Unfortunately, I talked to someone who told me about a friend, someone that they know who is an 18-year-old who is afraid to vote, not because of coronavirus, but because they're scared of that they're not going to be able to get a job if they vote Republican. Like that is, that's the United States of America right now, that people are afraid to vote Republican because they see the bullying that goes on in the mainstream by Democrats, by liberals, by major corporations, by a lot of the major institutions in this country that if you do not fall in line ideologically and politically, you were excluded from society. You were excluded

from being able to get a job. And they want to point to Trump as the autocrat. Like, they want to point to Trump as the dictator and as the tyrant as the fascist. Is it not more fascist to say that you have to fall in line with us on every single issue and vote exactly the way we want you to vote or else you are excluded from everything in society that counts? I would say that that is much more totalitarian than anything that Trump has ever done. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news

of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort, we ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Now, I want to address this as a Christian. Must you vote? Is it imperative that you vote? Is it a matter of obedience to God that you vote in our elections. I personally don't think so. I probably would have said

something different a few years ago, but I've heard a lot of good biblical arguments from people I trust. I don't believe that there is a biblical mandate for you to vote that says that you have to vote or else you are in sin. But here's what I'll say. Here's my personal perspective. I am obviously, I never claim to, but I am not speaking, you know, for the Holy Spirit here. This is my opinion from what I have studied, what I see, and what I believe. So take it as you will. Policies and politicians affect not just me, not just my family, not just the people I know, and not just the future generations of my family, all of whom I care about very much.

But policies and the politicians that we put in place affect the most vulnerable. the most vulnerable among us, the poor, the outcast, the downtrodden. So when I vote for a politician who promises to protect my First Amendment rights to freedom of religion and freedom of speech, that protection doesn't just protect me and my family. It extends most importantly to the person with the least popular opinions and the most marginalized religious beliefs. When I vote for a politician who believed in the sanctity of unborn life. It doesn't protect me as much as it protects the unborn, vulnerable, defenseless babies in the womb in this country. When I vote for a politician who believes in cutting taxes, that benefits the working class family who was trying to make ends meet,

who has finally been able to make something of themselves. When I vote for a politician who believes in strong border policy, that benefits the children who are otherwise victims of the traffickers and the drug cartels that exploit lacks border policy. It benefits the immigrants who have sacrificed everything to become citizens legally. When I vote for a politician who stands for law and order and impartial justice, I am voting for the protection of the poor, that helpless men and women who are suffering at the hands of violent criminals in the cities where derelicts leaders have neutered the police. When I vote for a politician who supports school choice, I am voting for opportunities for kids whose parents cannot afford to send them to private school or to homeschool them.

So who we vote for matters because the policies affect flesh and blood human beings. They affect their lives. They affect their livelihoods. And I will always vote for the platform that best protects faith, that best protects freedom, and best protects and promotes the family. Because these are, inarguably, the bedrock of a strong society for every demographic, especially, especially for the most vulnerable. And when I see that far leftism, self-described anarcho-communists, have the Democratic Party by the horns,

and I look throughout history at Mao's China, at China today, at Palpat's Cambodia, at the USSR, at Eastern Germany, at Venezuela, Cuba, and Zimbabwe. And I see the effects of Marxism, of collectivism, of communism, of socialism. I see the effects that these things have had on the least of these, while the elites have remained elite, while the most rich have remained rich. And I cannot, I cannot let that happen to the vulnerable in this country if I can help it. I have to try my best doing what I can as just, you know, one individual finite person to prevent America from experiencing the very poison that we fought so hard against in the 20th century. Men and women have fought and died for the right and the privilege to vote.

We have a saying who represents us. That is something that millions and millions in the world have never known and we'll never know. So I believe that we should exercise that right while we still have the freedom to do so. I don't know if we always will in America, but right now we do. We shouldn't take it for granted. We should thank God that we live in a country where that is still possible, even understanding, as we will go into at the end of this episode, that no vote changes God's sovereign will and no politician is our savior.

We know that right now we are seeing the leftist ideology taken to its logical conclusion in places like Portland, places like Seattle, San Francisco, L.A., New York City, and Austin, and we still have the opportunity to write our course. I believe that. In Portland and Seattle, you are still seeing incredible violence, devastating violence. And I think it's so important for us to not look away because this is happening. This is not happening in the Middle East. This is not just happening in China. This is happening in America's major cities. Some of the most beautiful cities in the country. This violence is happening. So I'm going to play you a few clips from what is happening right now in Portland, Oregon. So for those of you who are trying to hurt no one down there. What do you mean?

You're not trying to hurt no money. So for those of you who aren't watching who are just listening, this is a man who is driving in his car with a woman in Portland, who is trying apparently to get around these Black Lives Matter and Antifa anarchists. They get in his way. It forces him to crash into a building. The woman gets out. A BLM activist beat her to the ground. The guy gets out.

He's not fighting. He's not in their face or anything. They beat him. Push him to the ground. Then while he's just sitting there on the road, not doing anything with his head down, a BLM activist wearing a security vest. These are people that BLM and Antifa have designated as their private security. these are the people that they would like to replace the police.

He comes up and he dropkicks him in the head, knocks this guy who was sitting there completely defenseless, not doing anything, knocks this guy out cold, and then someone else comes up and kicks him in the head. Last we heard, this guy is unconscious in the hospital and this man, the security person, apparently for BLM, has not been arrested yet. Apparently Portland PD is working on it,

but Portland PD because of the policies that are in place have been arresting a lot of these people and releasing them. But of course, this guy should be arrested for attempted murder. I mean, this is absolutely terrifying. If you do not follow Andy No, his last name is spelled NGO on Twitter. I encourage you to do so. You can't spend forever on his timeline because it really is just depressing. But it's so important for you to see that this is the logical conclusion to leftism that is being played out right before our eyes. It's like, what a gracious gift and a privilege that we can see that for ourselves right now.

And not a single Democratic member of Congress will criticize Antifa or BLM for the violence and the anarchy that they are causing. In fact, like I said earlier, Congresswoman Ianna Presley said that we should expect unrest in the streets. So as people are dying, as people are being assaulted, as their businesses, as their lives, their livelihoods are being ruined. And no, it's not just property. These are people's lives that we are talking about.

As people's lives are being ruined, some people's lives are being taken. As people are being assaulted violently in these cities because of these rioters, because of these anarchists. You've got Democratic Congress people, number one, unwilling to call out these groups for terrorizing America's cities, but they're actually actively encouraging it by saying, oh, yeah, well, there needs to be unrest in the streets. It's been three months of this. BLM and Antiva haven't stopped looting. They haven't stopped robbing. They haven't stopped rioting.

They haven't stopped killing. And some of you believed that it was for justice for George Floyd. For a lot of these violent activists, it never was. Now, again, we distinguished between the peaceful protesters. We distinguish between the people who have genuinely been trying to have sincere conversations about impartial justice in this country, who have sincerely been pushing for good change in this country. We distinguish between them and these violent anarchists. I do believe there is a distinction. Now, they would probably say, though, that their cause is the same, that their aim is the

same. And that should cause the people of the peaceful people to take a step back and to re-examine what is your definition of justice. And what are the real problems in this society? And what are the real solutions? What are the real tactics? I want to play you. a couple more clips of these BLM-Antifa activists and the demands that they are making. Your mother's embellicor cord should have a racked around your neck and choked you just the way you choked George Floyd. You filthy animal. Not only your neck.

What? It should have wrapped around your neck three, two times. Don't run now. Racist white people. I'm here. Oh, yeah. We pull up. support black people.

F*** you go to Minnesota. So this is a theme. These are not just one-offs. These activists at the so-called demonstrations have called for the abolition of the police, for the abolition of the United States, the abolition of prisons. And it's easy to see why,

because a lot of them are criminals. And so they want to be able to commit crimes with impunity. This is the leftist ideology. This is the result of Marxism. And Marxism isn't just a boogeyman. There are unfortunately a lot of people right now. a lot of Christian leaders, like Beth Moore has done this, and I've heard some other pastors do this. They preempt the criticism of Marxism by just saying, oh, some people are going to call

us Marxist, and they dismiss it without actually addressing it, pretending like when we say Marxism, we don't actually mean anything by it. We don't know what we're talking about. The reality is, the people that are dismissing that criticism, they often don't know what Marxism is. They don't take our concern seriously because they don't want to look into what Marxism is. And, figure out whether or not the ideology that they're pushing actually is Marxism, which always leads to chaos, which always leads to violence. It always has throughout history. I listed the regimes that have implemented forms of Marxism into their government and into their society. It always leads to unrest. It always leads to more inequality. It always leads to more oppression. It always leads

to more injustice and unfairness and starvation and suffering. That is simply what the ideology does. It divides. And so, by the way, the DNC, their theme is unifying America. Well, there's no way for the ideology that is currently coming from the fringes of the Democratic Party and becoming more and more mainstream. There is no way for that ideology to unite because that is not in its nature. That's not what it does.

what it does is create Portland's and Seattle's. And you also see this ideology taking root in places like New York City and places like Chicago and places like Austin and San Francisco and L.A. where people are leaving in droves because this ideology that says everyone is split up between the oppressed and the oppressor. Therefore, there is no moral agency for people that we say are part of groups that are oppressed. Therefore, we don't need police. We don't need law and order. People need to be free to do what they want to do and we just need to make sure that they are comfortable and provided for. That is kind of the view, the messed up worldview that is driving a lot of these poor decisions,

like neutering the police, that are resulting in an uptick in crime. Once again, as I've said, neutering the police, defunding the police as they've done in places like Minneapolis and New York city taking away and L.A. and Austin taking away a large portion of funding and demonizing the police so that not only are a lot of police fired because of the defunding or the shifting a certain fraction of funding away, but also there are police officers quitting because they don't want to deal with this anymore. They can't do their jobs anymore. This results in disproportionate effect. negative effects on the most vulnerable, on the poor women and children, on the elderly, on the disabled that cannot leave these poor communities that are now riddled with homelessness

because it's incentivized by liberal policies who cannot leave the cities that are now riddled with crime, which is incentivized by liberal policies. And so they're stuck there. They're stuck there in the danger. They're stuck there in the misery. This is the logical conclusion to leftism. This is a worldview played out that we are getting to see firsthand in America's major cities. And it doesn't have to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way. We don't have to vote Democrat anymore. I know you watch the DNC or you listen to Michelle Obama and they give compelling speeches. Every celebrity that you know is voting for these people and talking about social justice and talking about the importance of voting for Democrats and getting Trump out of

office. And I understand the GOP certainly isn't perfect. Trump is very far from perfect. And so I get it. I get the distaste that you have for Republicans. But consider the fact, consider the fact that everywhere where the leftist ideology that is being pushed in your face, everywhere that it takes hold, lives get worse. They get worse. The only cities that are run by Democrats that are actually not in disarray right now are the ones in which the leaders have decided to make more conservative decisions. So you look at a place like Dallas or you look at a place like Detroit where the mayors, the leaders of those cities have decided they are going to side with the police and the police chiefs in those two places. For example, there are other cities like this have said, you know what,

we're not going to deal with the unrest. We're not going to deal with the looting and the rioting. We're not going to deal with the crime. We are going to continue to do our jobs. We're going to continue to crack down on criminals. And we are not going to allow our city to devolve and to disarray. And so it is very, it's possible for Democrats to lead well, but they have to make decisions that conservatives are typically the ones that are in favor. If they go with the leftist ideology that says, oh, police, they're just a form of oppression and we shouldn't enforce the law because, you know, there's no moral agency for people that. we say are part of groups that are oppressed, then you see lawlessness, then you see chaos,

and then you see despair, and then you see disarray disproportionately for the people who are most vulnerable. And remember, everything that leftists do is in the name of social justice, which sounds really good. But what we see proven is what Thomas Sol wrote about in his book, Quest for Cosmic Justice, which I highly recommend, and this is what he says, quote, in its pursuit of justice for a segment of society in disregard of the consequences for society as a whole, what is called social justice might more accurately be called anti-social justice, since what gets dismissed are precisely the cost to society.

We talk about this in my book, you're not enough and that's okay escaping the toxic culture of self-love. If you haven't read the book, that might surprise you, but I actually believe that the removal of faith and belief in the God of Scripture, places the God of self at the center. And when we place the God of self at the center, then we decide that we are the arbiters of truth. When we decide that we are the arbiters of truth, things like justice and morality, they become subjective and anarchy and chaos ensue. And that is an argument that I make in my book that it's all connected. Leftism does not build. It is effective activism. It is effective at getting people riled up. It is not governance. Because in the

name of fighting oppression, it tears down the various structures and incentives and institutions that society needs to function peacefully, like family, like the church, like law enforcement. So you have a choice in November between the ideology of social justice that sounds really good, but always, always, when taken to its most extreme, which is what we're seeing playing out right now, it always into more oppression, more violence, more injustice, and more inequality, or law and order, building our economy back up, school choice, continuing to defund Planned Parenthood, all the things the Trump administration has been promoting. Planned Parenthood, by the way, as we talked about on Monday, the world's largest abortion mill

and aider and a better two rapist, scumbag, boyfriends, and sex traffickers. That is the institution, the organization that is propped up by the Democratic Party. Trump and Republicans, like I've said, they are far from perfect. In fact, I tend to think that most Republicans right now are very weak. They're very spineless. And if you can't bring yourself to vote for either of them, I do get it. I understand that might be unpopular to say among other conservative commentators. But I do.

I'm not here. If that's you, if you're like, I can't vote for either party, I am not here doubting certainly your salvation or your sincerity that is certainly not my place. And your righteousness, obviously, is not a judge. by that. It's not judged by agreeing with me. I am not the arbiter of these things. I pray that God gives all of us voters wisdom that I pray every day, that he would give our leaders wisdom. I pray for our Democratic leaders. I pray for our Republican leaders. I don't want Democrats to fail. I in fact want to be wrong on my analysis that I am telling you. I do. I desperately want to be wrong.

Like some people want what's going on in Portland and Seattle to play out. A lot of conservatives do so we can continue to get a look at the leftist ideology. They almost want the Democrats to be radicalism to make the choice more obvious. I don't want that. Like I wish it were a more difficult choice. Like I wish that Democrats actually represented values that some values that I think are good for the country. I just don't see that at all. I don't want them to be extreme.

I don't say, hey, you've got communists in the Democratic Party and mainstream Democrats are refusing to condemn them. I don't say that flippantly. I don't want that to be true. I want there to be more commonality. Like, I don't have a desire to demonize Democrats. I don't have a desire to be partisan. I really wish that I could stand in the middle and say there is moral equivalence here. But they're simply not.

And again, that's not saying Republicans like the. the political party. Like they are necessarily the beacon of morality. But I'm talking about the two worldviews, the leftist secular worldview or the conservative worldview. There's simply not enough overlap there for me to be able to stand in the middle and to say, yeah, I can take good things from both sides. I just know too much about where leftism leads.

And I know that it sounds good even to a lot. lot of Christians, but I know what's underneath it. I know what's pushing it. And I know where it takes us. And I just cannot get on board with any of it. And I wish I were exaggerating. I really, really do. Like I wish that I could say, oh, this is just, you know, me fearmongering because I really desire that you become a Republican. I really don't care whether you become a Republican. I really don't. That's not the point of this podcast. The point of this podcast is trying to show you worldviews as best as I can and I fail because I'm a flawed, finite person and there are blind spots that I have because I'm a flawed finite person. But my desire is to do my best as wisely,

as precisely and as biblically as I possibly can compare the two worldviews because that's what we're voting for in November. It's a worldview. It's a set of policies, not a person. It's actually very short-sighted to just look at the person. And as I said on Monday, as I said on Monday, both sides are pushing aside the flaws that each candidate has in order to vote for a platform. So the left is constantly saying that we're ignoring Trump's flaws in order to vote for him. Well, the left is doing the same thing with Joe Biden. Like, you remember that he was accused of sexual assault by one of his staffers when he was a senator. He's been accused by several women of sexual harassment. He has been accused and found

to have said many racist things. And so you're pushing those to the side. You're voting for a platform. I understand. We're doing the same thing on the right. So we just both need to understand that both sides are doing that. We are voting for a worldview. And you have to decide. You have to critically think which worldview lines up best, not just with biblical Christianity, but also with what is best for society as a whole. And those two things overlap. Those two things go together. Now, just an end note here, and I know I say this a lot and very often I end with this, but that's because I think it is so important. We understand as Christians that no politician can save us.

No party is our hope. No party is our savior. The GOP has corrupt and spineless, terrible people in its ranks and Democrats do too. Thankfully, we follow a perfect ruler, a righteous king, a just judge named Jesus, who will one day rule in perfect peace. there will be no partisanship. There will be no affiliation except to Jesus Christ. There will be people in heaven that we disagreed with here on earth.

And we will not care because we will be too busy basking in the joy of worshiping Jesus face to face. As Philippians 320 says, but our citizenship is in heaven. And from it we await a savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. We are not Americans first or conservatives first or Republicans or Calvinists or anything before we are Christians, our citizenship, our identity, our nationality, if you will, is in heaven. That is where we belong. That is where we are headed. That's where our hope is. That's where our glory is. That is where our

victory is. Psalm 37-1-3-2 says, fret not yourself because of evil-doers. Be not envious of wrongdoers. For they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the green herb. We trust that. Again, I've said million times, read Psalm 37 for comfort for your soul in God's promises. We trust in the promises of Psalm 37. We know them. We remain confident in them. So that means we remain joyful and we remain steady, even when chaos wages all around us. Now, what can we do as we hope, as we are patient, as we are steadfast?

We can be obedient in the roles that are right before us. So that means we can be good employees. we can be hard workers, we can be good spouses, we can be good moms, we can be good community members and church members. We can continue to educate ourselves, be dogged in our pursuit of truth and true biblical justice that is based not just on scripture, but also on fact, not narrative. That means we never accept a headline, whether it's from a conservative outlet or a liberal outlet. We never even accept a statistic without looking more deeply into the story and thinking critically about that. I look at several stories before coming to a conclusion or even understanding what happened.

I personally believe that in addition to our pursuit of truth, that is biblical truth, that is also factual truth, I personally believe that voting is a part of our responsibility. It's a part of caring for those around us as well. They're brilliant and good faith people who would disagree with that. And I do respect that. But from what I can see and from what I know, I believe it is a responsibility and a privilege and a right that we should exercise. Let's pray about all of this.

Let's seek God and his wisdom. Let's admit when we are wrong. Let's ask God to help us see our hypocrisy, to see our blind. spots and let's God, let's ask God to rid us of unnecessary partisanship. Now, that doesn't mean that you don't lean conservative or lean a particular way, but that we are seeing things clearly and biblically and that we humbly accept when we don't see something or when we are ignoring something or paying attention to something just because it advances a particular narrative rather than because it's something that God actually cares about. That is something that I have to examine very

consistently and I know that I fail but by his grace I hope to constantly get better at that and that is something I think we should all pray toward okay uh that's all I have today I actually have a lot more to say but I don't have I don't have the time well let me just say one thing let me just say one thing really fast so there are a lot of Christian teachers who would agree you know with everything that I said at the end who would take issue with other things that I said and these are the same Christian teachers who say that they're always going to speak up when they see the marginalized treated unjustly, that are always going to speak up for the voiceless, that are always going to speak up for the least of these. But what they really mean is a particular,

is a particular segment of society that it is trendy to defend, that it happens to be mainstream right now to defend. There are lots of instances of injustice, of people of different skin colors, of people of different socioeconomic classes, of people of different, of different identities that are being treated unjustly that these same church leaders will not speak up about because they will get backlash from the very same social justice activists that have been booing them with praise for the past several months. And so I would also encourage them in the same way that I am encouraging myself and that I am praying that God would reveal my blind spots and where I am unnecessarily partisan and where I am wrong, I would encourage other church

leaders to do the same thing. Let us care about injustice everywhere where it really exists. That doesn't mean that we have to care about all things at all times. That doesn't mean that we can do everything all at once. We're not omniscient. We're not omnipotent. But we have to make sure all of us, especially Christian leaders and pastors and influencers, that you are, that your pursuit of justice and your calling out of injustice is not partisan and that you are not just picking the stories that you know is going to get you praise by social justice activists. If you continually find yourself on the side of the atheist and the agnostics and the activists that don't believe in God, if you consistently find yourself caring only about the stories that the people you know who don't know

God care about, then you should question whether or not the things that you are choosing to speak up about happen to be biased. And also, again, we all need to to make sure that the stories that we're speaking up about, that the instances of injustice or perceived injustice, the trends that we talk about, the history that we point to, that they're actually based in fact, that they are statistically true. That is a responsibility of church leaders and all of this. So anyway, in the same way that I encourage myself and pray for myself to see my own blind spots. I really hope that other Christians on the other side of the aisle on the other side of these issues that they examine themselves too, that they allow themselves to actually look into

Marxism, to look into critical theory and to make sure that they're not falling into that trap in the same way that I don't want to fall into the trap of idolizing a political party or idolizing a certain worldview of America that doesn't align with the Bible. So we just have to make sure that we are relentless in being biblical in our perspectives and I appreciate to myself the most in that. Okay, that truly is all that I have. And I will be back here on Friday with a wonderful conversation that I know will lift your spirits. If you have not ordered my book, you're not enough and that's okay escaping the toxic culture of self-love. Make sure you go to alleybethstocky.com slash book.

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