Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 302 | Candace Owens on Black America | Guest: Candace Owens

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

BLEXIT founder and host of "The Candace Owens Show" on BlazeTV, Candace Owens joins us for special details about her pregnancy and her new book, "Blackout: How Black America Can Make Its Second Escape from the Democrat Plantation." We answer why God challenges us, how to fight the liberal narratives, and why black Americans continue to vote for Democrats who have over-promised and under-delivered for decades. Plus the lowdown on motherhood! This and more, only on today's episode of Relatable. Today's Sponsor Start building your better portfolio today with Fundrise today! Get started at https://fundrise.com/Relatable to have your first NINETY days of advisory fees waved. Today's Links Candace Owens' Blackout How Black America Can Make Its Second Escape From the Democrat Plantation https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Blackout/Candace-Owens/9781982133276 ------ Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed.

You can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Friday. Hope everyone has had a great week. Today I am talking to Candice Owens, whom I know all of you know. We will be talking about her brand new book, Blackout.

We will also be talking about a variety of political and cultural subjects. So I'm so excited for you to listen to. to this conversation. Without further ado, here is Candice Owens. Candice, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for having me. Congratulations. You've got two things to be congratulated on. At least, you birthed a book and you are going to birth a baby. This is such an exciting time for you. Congratulations. How are you feeling about everything? Thank you. I feel like the book has definitely been a longer birth and a more frustrating birth. Yeah. It's amazing to have it out. You know, it was a real back and forth struggle with Simon and Chester to just sort of keep the content that I wanted

in the voice that I wanted with the strong language that I wanted. So it feels amazing to have it be out and have it be so successful. And then on the personal baby side, I mean, I've had the easiest best pregnancy ever. I'm six months in one week and I have not had a single symptom and I've just got so much energy. That's amazing. It's been pretty good. That is awesome. Okay.

Can you tell us how it happened when you found out that you were pregnant? Like were you just like over the moon? We love to hear those kinds of stories. I knew instantly. I am one of those people that is crazy in touch with my body. And my body is like a clock. Like there is nothing ever am missed. Like I am just like a very healthy person.

And I mean, I knew the second I was pregnant. And my husband was like, are you crazy? And I was like, watch. Go get a test. And we got a test. And I found I was pregnant. And we were so excited. Oh my gosh.

It was just, it was honest. honestly such a special moment that you'll never get to have again, you know, your first child and figuring out, finding out that you're pregnant. I knew instantly, instinctively in that moment also what sex it was. And my husband's like, you're crazy. I know this, that I'm pregnant and I'm having a blank and everything turned out to be correct. We just had our 20 week scan. He's just like, you are a really bizarre human being. You just know. It's just intuitive. And so you're keeping the gender private for now, I'm guessing. Yeah, we are keeping it a secret.

That is so exciting. Well, I'm so excited for you. As you know, motherhood changes everything. Even when you are just pregnant with the child, like your perspective on the world just changes. Have you experienced that already? Yes, definitely. I mean, one of the things is just that you're already so much more selfless.

Me, I love to go into the fight in terms of politics. I love to show up at the protests and do all these things. And suddenly I'm like, I can't do that anymore because I am with child. And the most important thing is my child and the safety is my child. And, you know, you just, there's already, I guess, mother guilt, they call it. You know, if I'm having a super long day, like, you know, before you could just skip lunch and be like, I have to get this done or skip breakfast. And now I'm just like, I'm the most selfish thing in the entire world if I didn't, you know, nourish my body the correct way. So everything, it just feels so much more heightened.

And, you know, I was already pro-life. Not my whole life. I used to be pro-choice. I was younger and I was liberal. And then I became, I would say, pro-life about five or six years ago, kind of when I came into my conservative awakening. But seeing, it's just incredible. If people knew how much you could see at 10 weeks, go in for an ultrasound.

And it just makes you really understand how fraudulent the clump of cells, my body, my choice with the true evil of that movement has really come to the forefront. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, let's talk about your other baby, your proverbial baby, this book. When did this process start? Why did you decide that you wanted to write this book? And what is your hope for this book? As more and more people read it? You know, my decision to write the book really came about when I realized that the media had been very successful in creating a caricature of Candace Owens. And that caricature, if you were on the left, was sort of like, this girl is just a

fraud, is popping up and taking Republican money because she realizes it's better. She used to be a Democrat. All of these things that just weren't true. And then if it was on the right, it was like, this girl is just doing things for attention and she's theatrical. And, you know, there's really no substance behind anything she says or does. Like she's saying the Democrat plantation, you can't say that. That's just to, you know, get underpenter.

people's skin. And I just felt like I wanted to present something that could assert for people who I actually am, where I came from what my background is, and why I actually mean what I say. I always say to people, I'm a lot more thoughtful than people give me credit for. And everything that I do, like, I remember being killed when I first came out and was doing fun YouTube videos and people were like, oh, she's just being funny. And it's like, yes, I'm being funny because I know that humor works and culture works. And I understand the significance of culture. Case important getting into a beef with Cardi B. That's thoughtful. I understand the significance of the fact that she has 75 million followers who know nothing about politics other than

she's sitting down with this candidate. So he must must be good. So I'm a lot more measured and calculated in the moves that I take to, you know, sort of preserve what I think are American principles and ideals. And this really allowed me to sort of lay the groundwork for what I lived through personally growing up so people know that I mean these things. from my heart, not just from my brain, but also from my heart. And yeah, just I guess to humanize myself in the end. Yeah. And I know what this book is about. And you just kind of explain some of it, but could you elaborate a little bit more on what this book is and some of the points that you make in it? Yeah. So this book really kind of goes through, I guess, all of the points that I think

Black Americans and all of Americans need to know about the methodology that the left uses. in terms of their favored course, which is race, right? We're always, in every election cycle, everybody's a racist. You and I have talked about this often. And what I wanted to do was sort of take people through my thought process on all of these points and show you why the left's arguments are fraudulent. And it take you through the real history of a Democrat Party. So you know that they've always been fraudulent.

They've always used sort of this theatrical harping on race to gain themselves power. and also to tell my personal stories, you know, to mix it. It's not like I'm just saying, you know, the left doesn't support school choice and school choice is good and attacking the public education system, but also taking them through what it was like for me in the public education system and also absolving at the same time this sort of plague of white guilt that we see today with white Americans. I feel so bad we have to do more. Well, a lot of the things that are wrong in society are because internally black America

has a problem and only we can fix it. So, for example, in the education chapter, I talk about how I was severely bullied in middle school, which people will be surprised about. Got along great with everybody when I was in elementary school. But then once we started testing and doing state testing, and I tested out of the group with all the minorities and everyone in my class was white, suddenly the black girls were pushing me into lockers telling me I was acting white. And we have a culture that believes that, you know, aspiring towards academic success, when I say we are referring to black Americans, aspiring towards academic success, aspiring towards academic success. is something that is proprietary to white people. So we actually are creating just sort of an environment that black children can't flourish in. That has nothing to do with white people. It's our culture.

It's celebrating Cardi B when she's making noises for 15 minutes to Joe Biden and not asking him any valid questions. So I just took on education. I took on abortion and just various topics and took them through personal stories as well at the same time. Yeah. Well, this book is so well time. because it seems like it is less popular than ever, at least according to the mainstream media and our cultural overlords on the left, to be able to talk about personal responsibility within any community, but particularly within Black America. There are other scholars like John McWhorter who has talked about this. Obviously, you probably know Shelby Steele and Larry Elder, but it seems like right now it is even more polarized.

according to the left to talk about this. I was looking at this interesting Pew Research study that shows how Democrats have changed in their perception of racism and discrimination towards black people. That it was in 2016, people who voted for Hillary Clinton, only, you know, a low percentage of them actually thought that discrimination was the main obstacle for black people. Well, that number has risen by like 25% in the Democratic Party, but not in the Republican Party. Very few people believe that America is this place of white supremacy and white privilege in the Republican Party. But over over a course of four years, Democrats have dramatically moved to the left and to the extreme on that. So racism hasn't actually increased by any measure, but the perception of racism has, why, why is that happening?

Why is that shift taking place so dramatically on the left? It's because of psychological conditioning. and that psychological conditioning is really an entire ecosystem. It's the politicians, right, who can no longer discern between right and wrong, meaning years ago the left and the right, could agree on some basic things, right? Alluding and burning down something no matter what happens is wrong, right? Going out of business owner who's got nothing to do with whatever happened in Minnesota and burning down his business because you need to express how you feel used to be agreed upon as something that was wrong.

Right. Now we have positions unable to say that, right? the concept of defunding the police used to be something that it would be unfabble. I can't even say it could be a big bond because it's so unfalable that it would have never even been said. Now we have politicians that are encouraging that and backing that and not just the politicians, but the media, right? The media that's saying the same thing, this is why this is happening, justifying this behavior. I always use the analogy of if you have a toddler and your toddler is throwing a temper tantrum on the floor and demanding and saying that they need something. while the parent that then says to them, your emotions are completely justified.

You have every right to scream and cry for this lollipop and throw things down in the store. And I'm going to give you the lollipop. And that then reinforces to that toddler, that this behavior is okay and that their feelings are valid. And right now we have a group of people that don't have the spine and all of these institutions, organizations and corporations that don't have the spine to say to these people, these radicals, you know, because it's not all black people. It's not all white people. we're talking about Antifa and Black Live Matter thugs, that their behavior is wrong. And then you have the school system, which you and I have talked about, which is now handing down an educational manual that basically says you are oppressed and you are the oppressor depending on your skin color. And we have not had, you know, we have not fought back to that.

We haven't we haven't fought back on that enough. It's just starting, but there needs to be a significant pushback from parents on this sort of. psychological conditioning. In many ways, we're seeing a system, an education system, which seeks to undermine parents and replace the parents in raising these kids. That can only really be Marxist at the end of the day if those of your belief completely absolved from all guilt. And it's the system and the white man that's out to get you. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what

we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day's show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this T-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Yeah, that simplistic worldview of the oppressed versus the oppressor based not on anything

you've experienced or done, but just based on your skin color. And that idea, it seems like, has become more popular. Again, not as America has actually become more racist, but as it's become more lucrative to talk about racism and critical race theory. And I'm wondering how corporations, I get these emails a lot, and you probably do too, from people who are in a business and there's something. saying, you know, my company is doing this diversity and inclusion training. And I'm told as a white male that I'm racist. How do I push back against that? Or parents who see curriculum in their

children's school about Black Lives Matter and all this stuff that they don't agree with. But they feel powerless to speak up because they don't want to be seen as racist because they're not. Do you have any advice or encouragement for people who feel like, you know, they're just yelling out in the wilderness and who don't have any support? Should they say something? And if so, how? Yeah, I mean, there's either two ways it happens. It's either a coalition of people and they say something. And they try to get things resolved the right way, of course, by just voicing your concerns. And not just voicing your concerns, but saying that you're not going to tolerate it.

You shouldn't go in like it's a negotiation. Someone telling your kid that they're privileged because of the color of their skin is racism. That's the very definition of racism, right? Assigning attributes to somebody based on the color of skin. And we have laws that protect against that. So I have been waiting for like the massive lawsuit. of a bunch of white parents coming together and suing a school for this sort of behavior, for handing down packets that are literally by definition racist. And I had a young woman,

two young women that were twins that I babysat when they were eight and they're now 16. And they told me in New York school, they go to a private school to leave. It costs $50,000 a year. And they have to take this multicultural course and they have to go around the room and share why they know that they are privileged because of the color of their skin. It is unimaginable for me. to if I had a child who was black, right, for a teacher to tell them to encourage to go around the room and tell them why they know that something is fundamentally wrong because of their skin color, like they get something in life because of their skin color. Also during Black History Month, those same students had to go to an auditorium and all the black kids in their school were invited to go on to stage and yell at the white people and tell them, like just to them. Yeah, what it is like for them to be black and how wrong and how privileged they are. It's unimaginable if this is what's happening in the school system.

And if parents, if my child attended that school, I would be suing. I mean, there's no question. It would be litigation for me because that is racism. And we've already won that war in America. And now we're seeing people that seek to initiate it, to reinitiate it again. Yeah. And it's not that it's just a negative impact on the white students or white people. I mean, this is bad for the black students, for the non-white students as well.

I mean, this kind of cultural segregation or actual segregation that's happening in some places. I think it was the University of Michigan that is having like racially segregated safe spaces. I mean, this isn't good for anyone of any race. I also saw another study that showed that these diversity and inclusion trainings that it's been found that it actually leads to more implicit bias, more discrimination, more resentment between the races, which is such an obvious. conclusion to all of us. Where do you think this ends up if people don't read your book and apply its wisdom? If people continue to go down this path of intersectionality and critical race theory. We're going to end up in a re-segregated society. And I wrote about this in my book. It's mind-boggling to consider that just a couple of decades ago. Ruby Bridges was considered,

you know, she still is, you know, the face of integration being yelled at spat at by white Democrats, as she sought to just be able to attend the same school as white people. It would have been unimaginable after that major win to say, hey, Ruby Bridges just, you know, in a couple of decades, it'll be reversed and black kids will be segregating themselves. It's so crazy to think that we are, as black America is now demanding their own segregation after everything that our ancestors fought for and how hard they fought for it. And if we continue down this path, you're exactly right. society is going to become more racially polarized because it's natural.

I mean, I thought about that even when I kept seeing people who were not saying racist things that kept being called racist. How does that not make you feel resentful? If you have, you're not allowed to express yourself. You're not allowed to say an opinion. Like maybe you just don't like Candace someone because you disagree with an opinion. But you say that now and, Ali, you're a racist. You know what I mean?

I don't like Candace because you don't like her positions on this, this and that. And you get shut down and you're told to shut up. That is naturally going to cause white people to feel resentful. They're not allowed to express themselves when everything that they say, if it's said against a black person is interpreted as racism, it's wrong. And then amongst black America, even you're seeing this sort of severance happen, which I'm happy about only because there needed to be this sort of an ideological civil war in our community because we were thinking like such a monolith in the past.

But at the same time, you're seeing that even black people are beginning to resent one another, depending on what side you're on. Like if you're not oppressed, then you're not down with us. And, you know, you can't be, you can't be black. And then you have the other people that are like, you are making this hard for us. When we're, you know, we've, where we have everything. We're afforded. We're the most privileged black American, African, black people that have ever walked the face of the planet.

And you're trying to send us back. So you're absolutely right that no matter which way you look at it, it's going to lead to a more ideologically segregated and a physically segregated society. Yeah. And did the Democratic Party, obviously, is exacerbating this because they believe that kind of division will help them usher in the collectivist left-wing future that they want. That's what I think this is all about, that racism is really just a flashpoint for the Marxist revolution that they are trying to

wage that it's not really about black lives or police brutality at all. It's about causing division that they hope will allow them to burn down the current institutions in order to rebuild the kind of dystopian future that they want. Why do you think it is that you point this out in your book, that the disparities between black Americans and white Americans has not changed, even though they have been voting black Americans predominantly for Democrats who have promised to save them for decades? Why do you think it is that predominantly black Americans are voting for the people

who have overpressed and underdelivered so many times? Because white guilt is not an antidote to the problems that are plaguing Black America. Government is never an antidote to problems that are plaguing any community. The answer is never more government. And you and I know this, Al, you talk a lot on your podcast about faith. We talk a lot about family. We talk a lot about personal responsibility. What's happening now is as you tread towards a more Marxist society and people that

believe in Marxism, even if they don't recognize that it is in fact Marxism, is that they begin to worship government as if it is God. They begin to see their government as if it's a family unit, as if it's mom and dad. And those sorts of things and those sorts of triumphs and successes can only come from the individual. That is why it is remarkable when you look at statistics to understand that Black America across almost every metric was doing better under Jim Crow laws than they are today. And what I'm talking about versus today, I'm talking about, you know, education wise, job wise. We had the last time that, we had lower, this is a very interesting statistic.

The last time that Black Americans had a lower unemployment rate than white Americans. It was in 1930. And that was just ahead of the government stepping in and demanding minimum wage so that Black Americans no longer compete. So at every point in society, which I talk about in my book, every time the government got involved, things got worse for Black America, especially when it comes to the family. And if we don't return to a society where we start valuing the individual, then we start valuing the family. And we keep treading towards a society that believes in the government.

We are just going to see this plague of narcissism that has no good benefits, no results, just the fundamental destruction of Western civilization and all civilizations that, you know, these sort of Marxist, narcissist ideologies have ever come into. Yeah. We hear that some of the disparities and problems that you're talking about are a result of A, the legacy of slavery and B, systemic racism. Do you think there's any truth to those assertions? Yeah, I mean, every time somebody says systemic racism, you know, implies that the system is in and

of itself racist. You ask one question, what is it that I can't do as a black woman in America, Allie, that you can't do? But what is the, just give me the one law. What is it that you're like, okay, Allie can do this, but Candace can't do this. It doesn't exist, right? Like that exists in your head. the barrier exists in your head.

And that is that is the problem right now for Black America is that we have an illness that is in our head. And it's not our fault. You know, like I said, there are these institutions that are at LeBron James, you know, saying we're literally being hunted, this sort of language rhetoric coming from people that they believe in and that they idolize. This is why the Bible preaches against idolatry, right? Because this happens when you idolize people like LeBron James is that you start to believe in his reality and what he's telling you and he is not a God. He is a good basketball player and that is all he will ever be. You know, one of the biggest, the most satanic things about America today is actually Hollywood. And this form of idolatry and believing everything that people like Cardi B and LeB. and LeB. and LeB. and LeB., James, say.

And it's harming individuals. There is no such thing as systemic racism. This country affords everybody the same opportunity, but you have to want to work hard. And, you know, I talk about this in my book in the chapter on faith, I believe. I talk about how really what's playing Black America, it's fear. What comes with freedom, you know, freedom is almost synonymous with personal responsibility. Like, once you're actually free and there are no barriers, then that means that you have to be 100% responsible for yourself. You either make it or you break it, right? And that's a really hard thing for people that are so used to having been oppressed, which black Americans were, and could point to that oppression and say, look, we do not have equality with white Americans and that's why we're lagging. But what happens is suddenly you're given equality, right? Where you just say, when I say, okay, that's it.

now you're actually given equality. It's a tremendous burden and it's really scary. Personal responsibility is really hard. It's still hard for me right now as a business owner every single day to realize that my business could fail or my business could be great. But it takes an amount of courage and what you're taking away from these kids when you condition to them from the time if they're young to believe that no matter what it's not your fault, no matter what you can point to some oppression is you're fundamentally creating

kids that don't have the confidence to be brave to try, right? To fail. we've all failed in various different ways across our lifetimes, but to keep getting back up. And that, to me, is the true evil of the left today is that they're trying to fail before they ever even try. Where do you think Republicans in the right have maybe failed in reaching out to black Americans? Do you think that, or do you think that they have done a very effective job? They definitely have not done a good job. And I don't think anybody would say the Republicans have been so amazing.

but I understand it and I and I sympathize with it because like I said I can't imagine what it would be like if every time you opened your mouth you were called a racist right if you're like hey I really want to help you and it's like no you don't get it if you don't support this you're a racist you know you wouldn't be you wouldn't be so trigger friendly you'd be trigger shy and you just say you know what forget it this is just never going to happen and they don't see it they don't get it and you just don't try anymore and I think that that's what's kind of happened to Republicans over time is that that they just stopped trying because so many of them are smear and liable is racist. We're literally trying to get out there and help. So I think now, though, I would like to think that with so many conservative voices like me, black conservative voices who have purposefully changed the dialogue and purposefully changed it as in I always wanted to be, I knew I was never going to be a doctor

Ben Carson. He's way more brilliant than me. He's a neurosurgeon. He's separated conjuring twins. Okay, he wins. He's smarter than Candid. Than all of us. You're smarter than us.

Okay, fine. I knew I wasn't going to be a Dr. Conno Lisa Rice. You know, she's just incredibly accomplished woman plays a piano. But I did realize that I could have, you know, I could have a greater impact than them. And I spoke to Dr. Ben Carson about this. And he said, why do you think it is, Candace, that you've been able to do so much in just a little bit of time. And I've been working my whole life towards this. And I said to him, well, you know, respectfully, Dr. Carson, you were just too polite.

And that is what was missing. Like this, when people think that I'm abrasive, I'm abrasive for a reason. Because I understand the plague in black America's father absence. I understand that when you remove fathers from the home, these people don't know how to respond to authority because they've never had to do it. There is no dad at home. You think they want to listen to their teachers in school. You want to know why they're failing in school and why they're rude to their teachers and why that transpires, people that are rude to police officers and people that are, you know, inside of the system. It's because they don't know what authority is because people usually just let them get what they want.

And I wanted to push back. I wanted to give birth to black conservatives who were proud and unapologetically black conservatives and didn't just take being called and Uncle Tom and sit down. Right. And I've done that. I fought back. I wasn't going to just take Cardi B attacking me, right? And in the past, I think if it was Dr. Ben Carson, he would have been like, I, you know,

I separate conjoined twins. I don't get into public. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a need for that cultural megaphone. And there just aren't very many.

I don't there aren't very many black women in particular saying what you say and doing what you do in a way that cuts through all the noise and doesn't use any kind of subliminal messaging or you don't acquiesce ever that's something I've noticed you don't even give an inch or a centimeter to the other side when you are confident in your position and I think that's part of the reason why you have just exploded and become so successful because you use. say the things that people are thinking, but they're too scared to say. And you give a voice to a lot of people, no matter what their skin color is in your boldness. And I think that that is a huge service to culture, but also a huge reason why you have just accomplished so much so quickly. But as you

write in your book, it's not necessarily just overnight. Your life has kind of been building up to this in a way, right? Yeah, I mean, that's the, that is, that's God, right? He's got, he's got the plan long before you understand it. And it's so funny now to go back, you know, yesterday I was having conversation with my little sister. And I was so emotional thinking about it because there were so many times growing up that I hated being the girl that was impoverished. I hated being the girl that lived in, you know, a roach invested apartment. And my parents couldn't afford for me to go on field trips. And I hated God in those moments. And that sounds so. so blasphemous to say out loud, but you do. You know, you blame God when you're a kid. It's like,

why me, God, right? And horrible things that happened to me in the first chapter I talk about, you know, a hate crime that I lived through in high school. And it was again, that same attitude, that same angry, why me, God? Why do I have this life? Why was I raised this way? And then now, he's unveiled part of his hand to me. And it's like because I had to live through that, because the first thing the left would have done, if I hadn't lived through that, was trying to take away, oh, well, she grew up rich. She grew up with a two-paired home. She, all of these things that somehow discount what you're saying, right, in the same way that, Allie, you're white so you don't get it. Well, I'm black. I grew up impoverished. I had to work for everything I had. I started my life in debt. And God wanted it that way because he knew, you know, that it would just, it would give me the strength and the ability to be able to say what I say. And people would not be able to discount. by words because of these various things. So everything, honestly, now in retrospect, it's just, it's all God. You know what I mean? It's so much bigger and more complex and greater than we'll ever understand. Definitely. Okay, one last question that I meant to get to

earlier, but I just want to hear quickly how you believe that President Trump is delivering on his promises, not just to Black America, but America in general. And why you support him and you encourage other people to as well. Yeah, you know, I've always said is the president does not, and I know him quite well now, and the president does not care about race or color. Actually, the one color he cares about is green. He likes money. He likes success and he likes to win.

And actually, that philosophy of success is that that's the one thing we can all share in this country, and that's always been the American philosophy. You can come here with the clothes on your back. If you're willing to play by the rule, stay out of trouble and work hard, and make good decisions, this country will reward you. And I think that what I love about Trump is that first and foremost, it had to be him because of the same reasons that I just listed. The Candace versus Dr. Ben Carson personality. We needed someone who wouldn't buckle when he was called a racist, right?

That he would just continue to be a good president, that he would continue to make sure that there were jobs available, continue to get people off of government assistance, someone who doesn't believe in welfare, who's not going to get up and say at his state of the union address, more, we've given out more welfare benefits than ever before, which is exactly what Barack Obama did and the Black Caucus cheered. And he understands that this is a country that is built on the concept of free markets and capitalism. And Judeo-Christian beliefs, you know, his fight for faith, for the faith community is a huge thing. Because as I said, one of the biggest things playing in America today is narcissism. And, Allie, you do a great job of talking about this in your book. And, and, and, and, and, if we can't fight for all of those things, right? Judeo-Christian beliefs, capitalism, and free markets. To me, Trump has done all of those things, and he has defended all of those things and defended the freedoms of the Constitution

every single day while he's in office. Do I have issues? Do I think Trump is a perfect person? No. Do I think Trump is the perfect person for what we are going through in American society today? Yes, the ideological war. Do I think he is the right person to lead us at this moment in time?

Yes. Do we need a president Trump forever, boisterous person like this? No. Do we need a President Trump right now? Absolutely. And it just had to be someone with his character. So I fully support him. And I hope he wins in a landslide. And it would feel really great for all of us who have just been going, what the heck is in America? Right. Right, right. Well, tell everyone where they can buy your book and anywhere else you want to send them as well. Yes, anywhere that sells books. You can go on Amazon. I think they're on backwarder right now. Barnes and Noble is a great place to go.

but you can walk into any bookstore and pick it up. And thank you guys. Also, I just want to thank everybody. This has been a huge dream of mine to be a published bestselling author. And it's becoming a reality. Oh, that's so exciting. Yay, yay. Well, congratulations.

Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me. You have been all over Fox and the major networks and all that good stuff. And I just hope that you sell millions and millions of copies. So thank you so much. And congratulations again. Thank you, Allie. Thanks for having me. Guys, I hope you loved that conversation. Make sure that you go pick up her book.

She mentioned my book at the end of that conversation. You're not enough and that's okay escaping the toxic culture of self-love. A great pairing with this book. I would say you can go to Alliebethstucky.com slash book to pick that up. If you're interested, join Women's Book Club with Allie Stucky on Facebook. We are going through discrimination and disparities with Thomas Soul right now, which actually is talking about. a lot of the principles and concepts that Candace talked about today and talked about in her book.

So again, another great book to go with the other books that I've suggested. Okay, I hope that you have a great rest of your day and a great weekend. We will be back here on Monday. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested to get to get the

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